/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/13/#ubuntu-mozillateam.txt

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LLStarkshey asac and fta, is it just me, or does thunderbird 3.0 look like shit now.06:31
DWonderlyhey guys... question. Don't knwo if it's a bug or not...06:33
micahgDWonderly: shoot06:34
DWonderlywhen I installed 9.10A5 through update-manager it kept Firefox 3.0 installed and placed firefox 3.5.3 along side firefox 3.006:34
DWonderlyNot a huge deal but, I didn't know if this sounded familiar or not.06:35
micahgDWonderly: firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5 are separate in Ubuntu06:35
micahgyou will find that firefox changed from 3.0 to 3.5 though in karmic06:35
DWonderlyI know. But, my point is that it didn't just upgrade it. It added it so both were installed.06:36
DWonderlySo, when it was said and done I had both 3.0 and 3.506:36
micahgDWonderly: what did you have before?06:37
DWonderly3.006:37
DWonderlyThe update replaced all other updates except firefox06:37
DWonderly*Updated packages06:37
micahgwell06:38
micahgfirefox upgraded to 3.5 and installed firefox-3.5, firefox-3.0 was installed and just upgraded itself06:38
DWonderly... It didn't upgrade itself.06:38
micahg(12:35:21 AM) micahg: DWonderly: firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5 are separate in Ubuntu06:38
micahgfirefox-3.0 upgraded from the jaunty version to the karmic version of itself06:39
DWonderlyok... but, shouldn't update-manager catch that?06:39
micahgno06:39
DWonderly??06:39
micahgboth are valid packages in karmic06:39
micahgat the moment06:39
DWonderlyI figured that out but, it should have replaced one.06:40
micahgnope06:40
DWonderlyshould being the keyword06:40
micahgsome people might want both at the moment06:40
DWonderlyuh huh...06:40
DWonderlyOkay.06:40
micahgDWonderly: if we remove ff3.0 in the final release, it will replace it06:40
micahgDWonderly: I have to go, I'll be back in an hour if you want to discuss this further06:41
DWonderlythat would be better for the non-tech users out there that will freak out having 2 FF installed.06:41
DWonderlyEh... I'm good.06:41
* gnomefreak not very happy. we decided dto wait until november to go. she had an emergency at work.09:53
eagles0513875:(09:54
eagles0513875morning gnomefreak09:55
eagles0513875added some more extensions to the wiki should finish them up this afternoon09:55
micahgsorry gnomefreak09:55
* gnomefreak has a stupid question. why is flashgot on the extension review list?09:55
gnomefreakeagles0513875: saw that09:55
eagles0513875gnomefreak: it had ~ubuntu-dev09:55
gnomefreakits ok micahg  thanks09:55
eagles0513875and it wasnt on there to keep track of what was done to it09:55
gnomefreakeagles0513875: its not in the repos until next release. i will look at it today to update the branch09:56
eagles0513875ok gnomefreak09:57
eagles0513875gnomefreak: is ffshowcase for next release as well cuz thats on there but couldnt file a bug against it09:57
gnomefreakeagles0513875: its ok just file it after the syncing from debian, assuming it was pushed to Debian as a new extension09:58
eagles0513875ok well let me just get everything sorted and bugs filed for what i can09:58
* gnomefreak filed a bug o thursday IIRC im now just getting email telling me i fil;ed it09:59
gnomefreakeagles0513875: cool thanks for the work on the wiki. BTW extension fixes that we are doing take one let us know and try it as it is simple to do10:00
eagles0513875there are a few that are assigned to me10:02
eagles0513875so might give it a go once they are all reported10:02
eagles0513875also need to setup my gpg key on my vm10:02
eagles0513875gnomefreak: right now im fighting with karmic and getting x to work with my video card10:03
eagles0513875otherwise im stuck in a tty console10:03
gnomefreakeagles0513875: ok for the table leave the assigned box empty (keep the space open) so we know what has and hasnt been done.10:03
eagles0513875i am leaving everything blank10:03
eagles0513875if anyone works on anythign they can make the necessary changes10:03
gnomefreakok10:03
gnomefreakleave bug # for them if you filed them. i also added a few things to the list you might want to add to bug reports but i will look it at today sometime after email10:04
eagles0513875ok10:09
andvgood morning10:31
andvgnomefreak, do we keep mozgest in sync with debian?10:31
andvgnomefreak, because mozgest should be merged from debian from what I see10:32
andva new revision got uploaded there10:32
gnomefreakandv: i dont understand this. unless a new version of it than sync is best. but since we have the package in our repos we fix our stuff in Ubuntu than wait for sync from thier package. if i understood10:33
andvgnomefreak, http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/mozilla-mozgest/mozilla-mozgest_1.5.2-6/changelog10:34
andvread latest10:34
gnomefreakandv: i also added a few things to what we need to look for. like standard version version10:34
andvgnomefreak, you should update your lintian then with those new standards10:34
gnomefreaklooking but for some reason my system is slow10:35
gnomefreakandv: what do you mean. i thought lintain did check standards version. i change it before lintian run.10:36
eagles0513875andv: will finish up the rest of that stuff this afternoon for the wiki :) and will give it a shot fixing and packaging for you guys10:36
gnomefreakim guessing newest version of standards version in debian is 3.8.2 but should be 3.8.310:37
gnomefreak!info mozilla-mozgest10:37
ubottumozilla-mozgest (source: mozgest): mouse gestures from the optimoz project (dummy package). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB10:37
gnomefreakour version is newer than theirs. they have 1.5.2-610:38
andveagles0513875, great10:38
andvgnomefreak, yeah, true10:38
andvgnomefreak, so we won't keep in sync then :)10:38
andvgnomefreak, one more question10:39
andvgnomefreak, I saw you made a change directly into the install.rdf file10:39
andvgnomefreak, in greasemonkey10:39
andvgnomefreak, is that ok? or you should use a patch system?10:39
gnomefreakandv: at least i think sync is bad idea for alot of ours unless we update it than push to debian so they catch up on versions10:39
gnomefreakandv: i did? ah it was a while ago. IIRC it was to update support for FF10:40
eagles0513875andv: question for ya is ffshowcase a new extension10:40
andveagles0513875, dunno10:40
gnomefreakandv: we can use patch but it is easier to just change it. or we ask upstream to change it10:41
andvif it doesnt exists in the archive, then yes10:41
gnomefreakeagles0513875: is that the exact name of it?10:41
eagles0513875ya let me link ya10:41
gnomefreak!info ffshowcase10:41
ubottuPackage ffshowcase does not exist in karmic10:41
andv!ffshow10:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ffshow10:41
gnomefreakpush it to unstable we will sync it10:41
andv!info ffshow10:41
ubottuPackage ffshow does not exist in karmic10:41
gnomefreakif its not in repos10:41
andv!info ffcase10:41
ubottuPackage ffcase does not exist in karmic10:41
eagles0513875https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-dev/firefox-extensions/ffshowcase.ubuntu10:41
eagles0513875!ffshowcase10:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ffshowcase10:41
andvlet me see10:42
* gnomefreak looking10:42
eagles0513875lp wasnt finding it cuz it doesnt seem to be published there so i could update the bug10:42
gnomefreakit looks like it should have been in repos10:42
andv!info firefox-showcase10:42
ubottufirefox-showcase (source: firefox-showcase): Showcase provides a new way to manage your Firefox tabs and windows.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.4.6-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 214 kB, installed size 936 kB10:42
andvhere it is10:42
eagles0513875blarg no offense uniformity is needed in naming these branches10:43
gnomefreakah :) that should be added to the wiki10:43
andvgnomefreak, usually it's nice to use a patch system to change source files10:43
eagles0513875its there10:43
eagles0513875but as ffshowcase gnomefreak10:43
eagles0513875will have to fix it now but i have to head to church10:43
andveagles0513875, ok, np10:44
gnomefreakandv: i can see why. maybe we should i just need to figure out how to patch it. i havent made a patch in a long long time10:44
andvgnomefreak, http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/index.php?view=use_dpatch10:45
andvgnomefreak, I gonna review / sponsor mozgest10:45
gnomefreakthe extensions dont use quilt?10:45
gnomefreakandv: thanks10:45
andvgnomefreak, don't know10:45
andvdidnt check10:45
gnomefreakhmmmmm this looks just need a standard name for patch. im thinking we should add a block to wiki for done or in progress ect... but just one box that way we know who is doing what.10:49
gnomefreak!restricted11:01
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:01
andvgnomefreak, pushed11:03
andvgnomefreak, please update the wiki page accordingly11:04
andvgnomefreak, e.g adding works with ff3.511:04
andvno extra license11:04
andvand so on11:04
gnomefreakandv: thanks. i will but we need a named patch first. i would like to add the file to wiki but not sure how to do that.11:04
andvadd the file'11:05
andv?11:05
gnomefreakandv: add the patch to wiki so whom ever is working on it can just download it and add it. or we host it somewhere else and point them to it11:06
gnomefreakandv: not sure what you did to remove the extra license11:06
andvgnomefreak, nothing, wasnt needed11:09
gnomefreakyou removed it. did you do it by hand? i dont recall what extension it was off hand11:09
andvgnomefreak, read the wiki page11:09
andvone of the points is the license stuff11:10
andvit was ubuntu-it-menu11:10
andvI guess11:10
gnomefreakMOZ_XPI_DOCUMENTED_LICENSE_FILES?11:11
gnomefreakwhat is that11:11
andvyes11:11
andva new m-d feature11:11
andvit allows you to remove extra license files from the tree11:12
gnomefreakhow do you use it?11:12
gnomefreakand i hope it shows you what you are removing so you know that it did something :)11:12
andvMOZ_XPI_DOCUMENTED_LICENSE_FILES := License.foo11:13
andvno, it doesnt give an output11:13
andvif i remember it right11:13
andvyou need to check final package11:13
andvto see if it got removed11:13
gnomefreakyou have to find the extra file and run that on each extra license file11:13
gnomefreak?11:13
gnomefreaklintian will warn me at least?11:14
andvif the license file didnt got removed lintian will warn yo11:14
andvusually you find this out by running lintian at .changes file11:14
andvthen you find out the extra license file name11:14
andvand you remove it11:14
gnomefreakandv: ok cool. so lintian will warn me11:14
gnomefreakok ill try it. i need to figure out how im going to get people to the patch. cant add full output of patch.11:16
gnomefreakwhy is the version of flashgot in repos higher than our changes. it was new upstream but not in changelog11:27
gnomefreakok so it was after we did our changes im guessing11:28
gnomefreakflashgot should never have been pushed to repos. we really need people to tell us when playing with extension IMHO. so what should be dne in this case. im guessing they didnt push to debian either11:30
andvgnomefreak, flashgot got pushed to unstable11:33
andvonly11:33
gnomefreakandv: why is it in our repos11:34
gnomefreakflashblock: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.3.14~a2+snapshot20090627-0ubuntu111:34
andvlet me check11:34
andvgnomefreak, you are confusing flashgot with flashblock11:36
andvgnomefreak, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashgot11:36
andvno releases in ubuntu11:36
andv!info flashgot11:36
ubottuPackage flashgot does not exist in karmic11:36
andv!info flashblock11:36
ubottuflashblock (source: flashblock): mozilla extension that replaces flash elements with a button. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.14~a2+snapshot20090627-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 87 kB, installed size 220 kB11:36
gnomefreakupstream is now at 1.5.11.2 was it flashgot that got pushed to unstable? im looking11:38
andvgnomefreak, yes11:39
gnomefreakwe pushed flashgot to debian unstable11:39
andvyes11:39
gnomefreakim guessing we should update it make our changes and push?11:40
andvubuntu has no flashgot package11:40
andvit will get into the archive at karmic+111:40
andvi gues11:40
andvcoz now it will need an FFe11:40
gnomefreakandv: right. but do we update flashblock and make our changes?11:41
andvgnomefreak, are you talking about flashGOT or flashBLOCK?11:41
gnomefreakflashgot i guess we wait unless you can get a FFe11:41
andvgnomefreak, we won't upload it into karmic11:41
andvgnomefreak, we gonna keep it in sync11:42
andvwith debian11:42
andvso no changes here11:42
gnomefreakflash block == needs update  flashgot == needs Ffe or wait until Karmic+111:42
andvdidnt touch flashblock11:42
andvif you want to update it11:42
andvit's ok11:42
gnomefreakim guessing we should since our changes are not there. do you have ubuntu-dev branch fo rit handy i will work off of that11:43
andvgnomefreak, apt-get source flashblock11:43
andvwork from there11:43
andvgnomefreak, please remove flashgot from the wiki11:43
andvis not needed there11:43
gnomefreakok thats easy enough.  ok will remove it11:44
andvgnomefreak, thunderbird should be removed from depends right?11:45
gnomefreakandv: what package? if flashgot maybe i dont remember why we kept them (i)11:46
andvgnomefreak, imagezoom11:46
andvgnomefreak, Depends: firefox | abrowser | firefox-3.0 | firefox-2 | thunderbird11:46
andvplus it has in debian/rules:11:47
andvMOZ_XPI_MOZILLA_DIRS := firefox-addons firefox thunderbird11:47
gnomefreakoh nothing we touched yet.11:47
andvi guess firefox-addon + firefox have to be removed11:47
andvyeah, I gonna review imagezoom that's why I asked11:47
gnomefreakshit i forgot about rules :(11:47
andvgnomefreak, luckily mozgest don't have that field11:48
andv^^11:48
gnomefreakandv: i guess xpi:depends will handle that. if it has another source in control that depends on tbird maybe we should leave tbird there11:48
gnomefreak:) but some might11:48
gnomefreakthat means i need to look over what i have and maybe add another revsion to branch for it11:49
andvI guess xpi:depends should take ff stuff only11:49
gnomefreakandv: i was thinking xpi:depends used the install.rdf for deps but i am not sure11:50
andvgnomefreak, don't need to make a patch for grasemonkey11:50
andvI saw asa*c doing that without using a patch11:50
andvwith flashgot11:50
gnomefreakandv: so no patch just do them by hand?11:50
andvyep11:50
andvgnomefreak, MOZ_XPI_MOZILLA_DIRS := firefox-addons firefox thunderbird should have thunderbird only11:51
andvin rules11:51
gnomefreaki had already done flashgot install.rdf11:51
andvk11:51
andvgreasemonkey11:51
andvwas11:51
gnomefreakandv: and icedove i guess11:51
andvyes11:51
andvtb e icedove11:51
gnomefreakok let me work on flashblock today i guess. im going to remove flashgot from list. just hope noone re adds it11:53
andvyep11:53
andvgoing out for lunch11:53
andvbbl11:53
gnomefreakok11:54
* gnomefreak gone12:42
andveagles0513875, when you get back, please open the bug against firefox-showcase14:24
andvthe wiki page gets broken cause no bug ID is added there14:25
bdrungandv: MOZ_XPI_MOZILLA_DIRS is deprecated14:39
andvbdrung, we still use it for tbird and icedove14:40
bdrungok14:40
eagles0513875andv: will do14:55
andveagles0513875, ty14:57
eagles0513875no problem m814:59
eagles0513875andv: i believe edge is down if im not mistaken :(15:39
eagles0513875nm15:39
andv?15:39
andvyou can't use edge15:39
eagles0513875ya sry15:41
eagles0513875for some reason as i am filing an unrelated bug it was trying to take me to edge15:41
eagles0513875redirect me there15:41
eagles0513875but i disabled the redirection15:41
BUGabundohowdy16:10
BUGabundofta: you now uploading to NM PPA?16:10
ikoniadisabled redirection, redirection is done on the server16:35
BUGabundohey ikonia16:36
ftahi18:49
ftaBUGabundo, yes, on behalf of asac18:49
BUGabundook18:49
ftachromium-browser                 12212   1.00%      1045    5163    6002       218:50
fta1% \o/18:50
BUGabundoehh18:50
BUGabundoso now you stop ?18:50
ftathat was the idea18:51
ftamidori                           12368   1.01%       400   11066     897       518:51
ftanext target to eay18:51
ftaeat18:51
ftashould be a formality18:51
ftanext will be:18:52
ftagaleon                           27622   2.25%      1428   25815     375       418:52
ftashould take a while18:52
bdrunghow should i call the MOZ_XPI_? variable wich has this description: set this variable to 1, if the source tar ball contains the xpi file and the xpi file will not be build from source18:52
ftano idea, i don't understand why we package stuff without sources18:54
bdrungfta: i don't like it, too. but there are packages like firebug. it's better to have ${xpi:Recommends} for them, too.18:55
ftaasac, ^^ why are we doing that?18:56
bdrungfta: the extensions are often only javascript. we synced them from debian.18:56
ftaasac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31752316/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.xulrunner-1.9.3_1.9.3~a1~hg20090913r32436%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz19:08
bdrungasac: mozilla-devscripts is ready for release20:10
bdrungasac: if we allow uploads by debian-maintaintainers, then i can do it in the future, too.20:11
andvbdrung, just add the tag21:45
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