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dserban_hmm on 9.04 mythbuntu consistently freezes...  how can I diagnose what it doesn't like about the box?00:12
dserban_Only real difference from the default install is that I setup my own partitions00:13
dserban_secondly, why do my ide(pata) drives get assigned scsi device names?  seems later on hal has issues with it00:19
foxbuntudserban_, freezes while doing what?00:22
tgm4883dserban_, by scsi device names, i'm assuming you mean sdX, and it has been that way for years00:37
dserban_foxbuntu, well when I install it, it hits a certain percentage on install and the system hard locks...  I can't see dmesg output I can't alt-sysrq etc... how do ubuntu bug reporters figure out wth is going on?01:19
dserban_tgm4883, yeah I kinda figured.  I've been running debian for years and it hasn't been like that... so I guess noob to ubuntu question01:19
dserban_wow I was late in responding heh..01:22
dserban_ran stress.. o ooohh dmesg returned something fun01:22
dserban_Bad page state in process 'kswapd0'01:23
dserban_with a backtrace01:23
dserban_hrrm looks like I may have to play with kernel params...  or try a backported kernel?  problem is... this happens on install ... yech01:54
PMantisI'm familiar with LTSP already, but are there instructions for setting up a diskless server *without* using the control centre gui? My server has no gui.03:11
superm1PMantis, i'd X forward MCC then03:17
superm1there is a command line option to build the diskless stuff, but i dont think it'd nicely documented anywhere03:17
PMantisI'd like to learn that anyway.03:17
PMantisltsp-build-client I'm sure.03:18
superm1yeah that's the basis for it03:18
PMantisPersonally, I don't like letting some script I didn't write run wild and configure things on a multi-purposed server.03:21
DavieyPMantis: in which case, it's unwise to use any distribution..03:21
Davieyyou should build your operating system from scratch,03:21
PMantisIf mythbuntu was the only thing that used PXE, and myth was the only thing on the server, then NBD.03:22
PMantisI also have regular LTSP running, so don't want the scripts to modify that, but build a different chroot instead.03:23
PMantisDaviey: I think that would be carrying it too far. ;)03:24
PMantisAlthough I have used gentoo stage 1 before... that's close! :)03:24
DavieyPMantis: well the people that created MCC are the same people that maintain the mythtv packages..03:24
DavieySo if you don't trust us to with the scripts inside MCC, how can you trust us with the myth packages?03:25
PMantisIt doesn't have anything to do with trust. Most GUI's made for lay people assume non-complicated and dedicated setups. As such, its likely it was written assuming no other LTSP chroots will be on the server, and installs the the myth chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386, which is already taken. As such, I'd like to run ltsp-build-client myself to build the frontend environment.03:27
PMantisThat's all...03:27
Davieyok03:28
Davieyon that noted03:28
Daviey!bed > Daviey03:28
ZinnSorry I don't know about bed > Daviey03:28
afarris01Hey everybody... I'm new to Mythtv, and I had some questions...03:38
afarris01     1. I've got DirectTV Satellite TV... is this going to make it difficult/impossible for me to run MythTV?03:38
afarris01     2. Are there any recommended tuner cards for using with Satellite TV?03:38
afarris01     3. Are all tuner cards limited to the number of channels that they can access? is this a hardware limitation?03:38
afarris01Thanks! :)03:38
dserban_Well I'm not entirely familiar with direct tv since I'm canuckistanian.  But as long as there's a way to connect the receiver to the myth box, it's usable.  Either direct (firewire/serial/usb) or via an ir transmitter.  Such as commandir.04:35
dserban_Depends if you want HD content, though again, can't really help you there as I'm resisting HD like the plague.04:36
dserban_But hauppauge seems to make something useful.04:36
dserban_3.  channels aren't really limited as if you're using a receiver (direct tv receiver) then you have no limit on channels at the card.04:37
dserban_Since the set top box will do the channel changing04:37
afarris01thanks! from looking at various tuner cards, it kept saying that the card was limited to using 125 channels or some such04:38
afarris01HD content isnt a concern for me... I dont really care about it that much, so long as the quality is good enough that i can still see it04:40
afarris01and how do you hook up the reciever to the myth box? I was kind of under the impression that I would remove my set-top box and replace it with the Myth box04:40
afarris01is it more like I keep the set-top box i was given, and i chain the myth box off of it?04:41
dserban_yep that's how it works... you connect either through component or err the regular way04:42
dserban_and you connect to the card04:43
dserban_which then encodes your video stream for myth to use04:43
dserban_control wise you'd use firewire, or serial or usb.  depends on your receiver and what's available04:43
dserban_just google it04:44
dserban_then... the channel control is based on those connections... if neither work then  you need an ir transmitter04:44
afarris01awesome. Thanks for the info. I've still got a lot of reading to do before I actually get to set it up, but I'm pretty excited already. MythTV looks awesome and I can't wait to play with it05:02
map7can anyone help me with modeline configuration under xorg?12:43
map7I cannot seem to make the resolution narrower or shorter.12:43
scales11hi all i just had a quick question, how does one running mythtv get program guide info? it used to be free from direct something, but they got bought and now they arent free..15:26
gunniscales11: Sometimes (like here in germany) EPG data is in the broadcast, or you can use xmltv if available for your country15:46
scales11i am in usa...i am pretty sure they dont broadcast it15:50
scales11so i would need to use xml..15:50
plagerismSo anyone running mythbuntu karmic koala?15:54
tgm4883!schedules% | scales1116:12
ZinnSorry I don't know about schedules%16:12
tgm4883!sd | scales1116:13
ZinnSorry I don't know about sd16:13
tgm4883hmm16:13
tgm4883scales11, use schedules direct, it's $20/year16:13
scales11tgm4883: yeah i know, it just have win7 and its media center is pretty darn good, there are just a few features that mythtv has that are nice.16:38
scales11tgm4883: and the schedule thing used to be free! i have a problem with companies coming along and making people pay for things that they used to get for free16:39
tgm4883scales11, IIRC, thats not entirely what happened16:39
scales11tgm4883: right, they had problems, got bought out?16:40
scales11something like that?16:40
scales11i havent used mythtv in years...16:40
scales11so i am a little out of the loop16:40
tgm4883no, IIRC, zap2it stopped offering the xml data period. Some mythtv guys scrambled to get something in place and made a deal with TMS to get channel data. The mythtv guys founded SD, and have to pay for the data.16:41
tgm4883They only wanted to charge what it cost, which goes down per subscriber in economies of scale16:42
tgm4883so in the begining it was $20/3 months cause they didn't know how much it would cost16:42
tgm4883they must have got enough subscribers to bring it down to $20/year shortly after that ( 2-3 months)16:43
scales11ah16:44
scales11i see16:44
scales11well i can respect that16:44
scales11thanks for the info16:44
tgm4883np16:45
scales11i will be back with more questions later :P gtg for now16:45
amy_I just installed mythbuntu via Wubi. When I run it, I get "cannot connect to database" each time. I have tried enabling the mysql server and the primary backend role in the mythbuntu control centre, but I'm still having the same problem. How do i set up MySQL for mythtv?17:58
sigkill_hey, it seems, annoyingly, that  since i enabled vnc in the control center and rebooted, that vnc hasnt restarted18:16
sigkill_how does one manually start it from the cli?18:16
sigkill_there's nothing in /etc/init.d/18:16
sigkill_and annoyingly the backend is headless18:16
amy_I think I fixed my own problem...18:29
pigetahi all19:46
pigetai have a thermaltake mozart media lab19:47
pigetaand i want to install mythbuntu19:47
pigetaanyone here has the same case?19:48
amy_!help19:56
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].19:56
amy_I did a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-backend which fixed my other problem. my new problem is that ubuntu doesn't appear to have a driver for my capture card. it's "Multimedia controller: Fujitsu Limited. Device 202a." Does anyone here know how to get this card working? (or know of someplace else besides #ubuntu where I could ask about it?)20:00
amy_Apparently nobody knows. I've been staring at mythbuntu for hours and it's obviously not going to work on my machine.20:22
PLCHi21:02
orificium_Anyone using JAMU?  According to the wiki, its shipped with Mythtv, but I'm not finding it.21:14
orificium_Nevermind, found it :)21:15
tgm4883!hello | PLC21:30
ZinnSorry I don't know about hello21:30
PLCI'm french21:32
PLCI buy a Dvico station .... but it's very bad system21:32
PLCI think, i'm going to make a HTPC with Mythtv21:33
PLCbut i don't know if we can do all thing with the remote21:33
PLCa remote *21:33
tgm4883all things?21:33
PLCyes21:34
tgm4883like what?21:34
tgm4883you can do anything in MythTV with a remote21:34
PLCnavigate in all system without mouse and keyboard21:34
tgm4883yea, you can do that, some remotes are limited by the amounts of buttons they have though21:35
PLCok21:35
PLCyou can have 2 tuner ?21:35
PLC+s21:35
PLCrecord one tv station and see another or watch DivX21:36
PLC?21:36
tgm4883yes, you can have many tuners distributed accross multiple computers21:36
tgm4883or in the same computer21:36
PLCok21:36
tgm4883and yes, watch one, record another21:36
PLCthe same for me :p21:36
tgm4883or record 221:36
tgm4883also21:36
PLChéhé21:36
PLC:)21:36
tgm4883!multirec21:36
tgm4883hmm21:36
ZinnSorry I don't know about multirec21:36
PLCcool21:36
PLCyou can record 2 channel and watch a media file like MP3 / MP4 ... AVI .... stream .. ??? :D21:37
tgm4883yes21:37
PLCGREAT =)21:37
PLCit's for me ^^21:38
PLChow many time you must wait before use the system ?21:38
PLCor swap between applications ?21:38
tgm4883i'm not sure what you mean21:38
PLCI want to create a HTPC with this system (ubuntu + MythTV)21:39
PLCthe time of the boot is long ?21:40
PLCI know the hardware change the value ... but :p21:40
tgm4883booting depends on the system21:41
tgm4883but it's usually pretty quick21:41
PLCless 30Seconds ?21:41
PLCif I do this box .... I use a good hardware21:42
tgm4883probably about that, usually you don't turn your computer off so it can record programs that you set schedules for21:42
PLCoups21:42
PLC:p21:42
PLCsorry21:42
tgm4883dont worry about it, happens all the time21:43
PLCshortcut fails :p21:43
PLCanother problem come ...21:44
PLCis the consumption of the system21:44
PLCin stand by21:44
tgm4883no idea21:45
PLCi know ...21:45
PLCa standard PC is 150-200W21:45
PLCin stand by .... mini 100W21:46
PLCI want to install on a Mac Mini21:47
PLCbut some problems appear with the tuner21:47
PLCconsumption is 15W21:47
PLChttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_an_Intel_Mac_Mini_using_Ubuntu21:57
PLC:)21:57
PLCi try to find with tuner DVB :D22:01
PLCi go to my bed22:05
PLCbye !22:05
PLC:)22:05
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gizmobayOkay, this must be an easy question. How do you shutdown the Mythbuntu from the CLI? I use sudo shutdown now but it doesn't shut all the way down.23:09
Davieygizmobay: try sudo halt23:10
gizmobayokay, I'll try that next time23:10
Davieygizmobay: shutdown doesn't poweroff without the -h switch.23:11
gizmobayaww, I see. Thanks23:11
superm1or sudo poweroff23:19
rhpot1991@delete - test23:26
ZinnI just deleted: - test23:26
rhpot1991@delete test23:26
ZinnI just deleted: test23:26
rhpot1991@delete tgm488323:27
ZinnI just deleted: tgm488323:27
rhpot1991@delete thingy23:27
ZinnI just deleted: thingy23:27
tgm4883@delete rhpot199123:27
ZinnI just deleted: rhpot199123:27
rhpot1991!stab tgm488323:27
* Zinn stabs tgm4883 with a rusty spork.23:27
tgm4883:(23:28
Daviey/sbin/poweroff = /sbin/halt :P23:28
Daviey== /sbin/reboot23:28
Davieybut i suspect reboot knows how it was spawned :)23:28

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