[00:12] <dserban_> hmm on 9.04 mythbuntu consistently freezes...  how can I diagnose what it doesn't like about the box?
[00:13] <dserban_> Only real difference from the default install is that I setup my own partitions
[00:19] <dserban_> secondly, why do my ide(pata) drives get assigned scsi device names?  seems later on hal has issues with it
[00:22] <foxbuntu> dserban_, freezes while doing what?
[00:37] <tgm4883> dserban_, by scsi device names, i'm assuming you mean sdX, and it has been that way for years
[01:19] <dserban_> foxbuntu, well when I install it, it hits a certain percentage on install and the system hard locks...  I can't see dmesg output I can't alt-sysrq etc... how do ubuntu bug reporters figure out wth is going on?
[01:19] <dserban_> tgm4883, yeah I kinda figured.  I've been running debian for years and it hasn't been like that... so I guess noob to ubuntu question
[01:22] <dserban_> wow I was late in responding heh..
[01:22] <dserban_> ran stress.. o ooohh dmesg returned something fun
[01:23] <dserban_> Bad page state in process 'kswapd0'
[01:23] <dserban_> with a backtrace
[01:54] <dserban_> hrrm looks like I may have to play with kernel params...  or try a backported kernel?  problem is... this happens on install ... yech
[03:11] <PMantis> I'm familiar with LTSP already, but are there instructions for setting up a diskless server *without* using the control centre gui? My server has no gui.
[03:17] <superm1> PMantis, i'd X forward MCC then
[03:17] <superm1> there is a command line option to build the diskless stuff, but i dont think it'd nicely documented anywhere
[03:17] <PMantis> I'd like to learn that anyway.
[03:18] <PMantis> ltsp-build-client I'm sure.
[03:18] <superm1> yeah that's the basis for it
[03:21] <PMantis> Personally, I don't like letting some script I didn't write run wild and configure things on a multi-purposed server.
[03:21] <Daviey> PMantis: in which case, it's unwise to use any distribution..
[03:21] <Daviey> you should build your operating system from scratch,
[03:22] <PMantis> If mythbuntu was the only thing that used PXE, and myth was the only thing on the server, then NBD.
[03:23] <PMantis> I also have regular LTSP running, so don't want the scripts to modify that, but build a different chroot instead.
[03:24] <PMantis> Daviey: I think that would be carrying it too far. ;)
[03:24] <PMantis> Although I have used gentoo stage 1 before... that's close! :)
[03:24] <Daviey> PMantis: well the people that created MCC are the same people that maintain the mythtv packages..
[03:25] <Daviey> So if you don't trust us to with the scripts inside MCC, how can you trust us with the myth packages?
[03:27] <PMantis> It doesn't have anything to do with trust. Most GUI's made for lay people assume non-complicated and dedicated setups. As such, its likely it was written assuming no other LTSP chroots will be on the server, and installs the the myth chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386, which is already taken. As such, I'd like to run ltsp-build-client myself to build the frontend environment.
[03:27] <PMantis> That's all...
[03:28] <Daviey> ok
[03:28] <Daviey> on that noted
[03:28] <Daviey> !bed > Daviey
[03:28] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about bed > Daviey
[03:38] <afarris01> Hey everybody... I'm new to Mythtv, and I had some questions...
[03:38] <afarris01>      1. I've got DirectTV Satellite TV... is this going to make it difficult/impossible for me to run MythTV?
[03:38] <afarris01>      2. Are there any recommended tuner cards for using with Satellite TV?
[03:38] <afarris01>      3. Are all tuner cards limited to the number of channels that they can access? is this a hardware limitation?
[03:38] <afarris01> Thanks! :)
[04:35] <dserban_> Well I'm not entirely familiar with direct tv since I'm canuckistanian.  But as long as there's a way to connect the receiver to the myth box, it's usable.  Either direct (firewire/serial/usb) or via an ir transmitter.  Such as commandir.
[04:36] <dserban_> Depends if you want HD content, though again, can't really help you there as I'm resisting HD like the plague.
[04:36] <dserban_> But hauppauge seems to make something useful.
[04:37] <dserban_> 3.  channels aren't really limited as if you're using a receiver (direct tv receiver) then you have no limit on channels at the card.
[04:37] <dserban_> Since the set top box will do the channel changing
[04:38] <afarris01> thanks! from looking at various tuner cards, it kept saying that the card was limited to using 125 channels or some such
[04:40] <afarris01> HD content isnt a concern for me... I dont really care about it that much, so long as the quality is good enough that i can still see it
[04:40] <afarris01> and how do you hook up the reciever to the myth box? I was kind of under the impression that I would remove my set-top box and replace it with the Myth box
[04:41] <afarris01> is it more like I keep the set-top box i was given, and i chain the myth box off of it?
[04:42] <dserban_> yep that's how it works... you connect either through component or err the regular way
[04:43] <dserban_> and you connect to the card
[04:43] <dserban_> which then encodes your video stream for myth to use
[04:43] <dserban_> control wise you'd use firewire, or serial or usb.  depends on your receiver and what's available
[04:44] <dserban_> just google it
[04:44] <dserban_> then... the channel control is based on those connections... if neither work then  you need an ir transmitter
[05:02] <afarris01> awesome. Thanks for the info. I've still got a lot of reading to do before I actually get to set it up, but I'm pretty excited already. MythTV looks awesome and I can't wait to play with it
[12:43] <map7> can anyone help me with modeline configuration under xorg?
[12:43] <map7> I cannot seem to make the resolution narrower or shorter.
[15:26] <scales11> hi all i just had a quick question, how does one running mythtv get program guide info? it used to be free from direct something, but they got bought and now they arent free..
[15:46] <gunni> scales11: Sometimes (like here in germany) EPG data is in the broadcast, or you can use xmltv if available for your country
[15:50] <scales11> i am in usa...i am pretty sure they dont broadcast it
[15:50] <scales11> so i would need to use xml..
[15:54] <plagerism> So anyone running mythbuntu karmic koala?
[16:12] <tgm4883> !schedules% | scales11
[16:12] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about schedules%
[16:13] <tgm4883> !sd | scales11
[16:13] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about sd
[16:13] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:13] <tgm4883> scales11, use schedules direct, it's $20/year
[16:38] <scales11> tgm4883: yeah i know, it just have win7 and its media center is pretty darn good, there are just a few features that mythtv has that are nice.
[16:39] <scales11> tgm4883: and the schedule thing used to be free! i have a problem with companies coming along and making people pay for things that they used to get for free
[16:39] <tgm4883> scales11, IIRC, thats not entirely what happened
[16:40] <scales11> tgm4883: right, they had problems, got bought out?
[16:40] <scales11> something like that?
[16:40] <scales11> i havent used mythtv in years...
[16:40] <scales11> so i am a little out of the loop
[16:41] <tgm4883> no, IIRC, zap2it stopped offering the xml data period. Some mythtv guys scrambled to get something in place and made a deal with TMS to get channel data. The mythtv guys founded SD, and have to pay for the data.
[16:42] <tgm4883> They only wanted to charge what it cost, which goes down per subscriber in economies of scale
[16:42] <tgm4883> so in the begining it was $20/3 months cause they didn't know how much it would cost
[16:43] <tgm4883> they must have got enough subscribers to bring it down to $20/year shortly after that ( 2-3 months)
[16:44] <scales11> ah
[16:44] <scales11> i see
[16:44] <scales11> well i can respect that
[16:44] <scales11> thanks for the info
[16:45] <tgm4883> np
[16:45] <scales11> i will be back with more questions later :P gtg for now
[17:58] <amy_> I just installed mythbuntu via Wubi. When I run it, I get "cannot connect to database" each time. I have tried enabling the mysql server and the primary backend role in the mythbuntu control centre, but I'm still having the same problem. How do i set up MySQL for mythtv?
[18:16] <sigkill_> hey, it seems, annoyingly, that  since i enabled vnc in the control center and rebooted, that vnc hasnt restarted
[18:16] <sigkill_> how does one manually start it from the cli?
[18:16] <sigkill_> there's nothing in /etc/init.d/
[18:16] <sigkill_> and annoyingly the backend is headless
[18:29] <amy_> I think I fixed my own problem...
[19:46] <pigeta> hi all
[19:47] <pigeta> i have a thermaltake mozart media lab
[19:47] <pigeta> and i want to install mythbuntu
[19:48] <pigeta> anyone here has the same case?
[19:56] <amy_> !help
[19:56] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[20:00] <amy_> I did a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-backend which fixed my other problem. my new problem is that ubuntu doesn't appear to have a driver for my capture card. it's "Multimedia controller: Fujitsu Limited. Device 202a." Does anyone here know how to get this card working? (or know of someplace else besides #ubuntu where I could ask about it?)
[20:22] <amy_> Apparently nobody knows. I've been staring at mythbuntu for hours and it's obviously not going to work on my machine.
[21:02] <PLC> Hi
[21:14] <orificium_> Anyone using JAMU?  According to the wiki, its shipped with Mythtv, but I'm not finding it.
[21:15] <orificium_> Nevermind, found it :)
[21:30] <tgm4883> !hello | PLC
[21:30] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about hello
[21:32] <PLC> I'm french
[21:32] <PLC> I buy a Dvico station .... but it's very bad system
[21:33] <PLC> I think, i'm going to make a HTPC with Mythtv
[21:33] <PLC> but i don't know if we can do all thing with the remote
[21:33] <PLC> a remote *
[21:33] <tgm4883> all things?
[21:34] <PLC> yes
[21:34] <tgm4883> like what?
[21:34] <tgm4883> you can do anything in MythTV with a remote
[21:34] <PLC> navigate in all system without mouse and keyboard
[21:35] <tgm4883> yea, you can do that, some remotes are limited by the amounts of buttons they have though
[21:35] <PLC> ok
[21:35] <PLC> you can have 2 tuner ?
[21:35] <PLC> +s
[21:36] <PLC> record one tv station and see another or watch DivX
[21:36] <PLC> ?
[21:36] <tgm4883> yes, you can have many tuners distributed accross multiple computers
[21:36] <tgm4883> or in the same computer
[21:36] <PLC> ok
[21:36] <tgm4883> and yes, watch one, record another
[21:36] <PLC> the same for me :p
[21:36] <tgm4883> or record 2
[21:36] <tgm4883> also
[21:36] <PLC> héhé
[21:36] <PLC> :)
[21:36] <tgm4883> !multirec
[21:36] <tgm4883> hmm
[21:36] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about multirec
[21:36] <PLC> cool
[21:37] <PLC> you can record 2 channel and watch a media file like MP3 / MP4 ... AVI .... stream .. ??? :D
[21:37] <tgm4883> yes
[21:37] <PLC> GREAT =)
[21:38] <PLC> it's for me ^^
[21:38] <PLC> how many time you must wait before use the system ?
[21:38] <PLC> or swap between applications ?
[21:38] <tgm4883> i'm not sure what you mean
[21:39] <PLC> I want to create a HTPC with this system (ubuntu + MythTV)
[21:40] <PLC> the time of the boot is long ?
[21:40] <PLC> I know the hardware change the value ... but :p
[21:41] <tgm4883> booting depends on the system
[21:41] <tgm4883> but it's usually pretty quick
[21:41] <PLC> less 30Seconds ?
[21:42] <PLC> if I do this box .... I use a good hardware
[21:42] <tgm4883> probably about that, usually you don't turn your computer off so it can record programs that you set schedules for
[21:42] <PLC> oups
[21:42] <PLC> :p
[21:42] <PLC> sorry
[21:43] <tgm4883> dont worry about it, happens all the time
[21:43] <PLC> shortcut fails :p
[21:44] <PLC> another problem come ...
[21:44] <PLC> is the consumption of the system
[21:44] <PLC> in stand by
[21:45] <tgm4883> no idea
[21:45] <PLC> i know ...
[21:45] <PLC> a standard PC is 150-200W
[21:46] <PLC> in stand by .... mini 100W
[21:47] <PLC> I want to install on a Mac Mini
[21:47] <PLC> but some problems appear with the tuner
[21:47] <PLC> consumption is 15W
[21:57] <PLC> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_an_Intel_Mac_Mini_using_Ubuntu
[21:57] <PLC> :)
[22:01] <PLC> i try to find with tuner DVB :D
[22:05] <PLC> i go to my bed
[22:05] <PLC> bye !
[22:05] <PLC> :)
[23:09] <gizmobay> Okay, this must be an easy question. How do you shutdown the Mythbuntu from the CLI? I use sudo shutdown now but it doesn't shut all the way down.
[23:10] <Daviey> gizmobay: try sudo halt
[23:10] <gizmobay> okay, I'll try that next time
[23:11] <Daviey> gizmobay: shutdown doesn't poweroff without the -h switch.
[23:11] <gizmobay> aww, I see. Thanks
[23:19] <superm1> or sudo poweroff
[23:26] <rhpot1991> @delete - test
[23:26] <Zinn> I just deleted: - test
[23:26] <rhpot1991> @delete test
[23:26] <Zinn> I just deleted: test
[23:27] <rhpot1991> @delete tgm4883
[23:27] <Zinn> I just deleted: tgm4883
[23:27] <rhpot1991> @delete thingy
[23:27] <Zinn> I just deleted: thingy
[23:27] <tgm4883> @delete rhpot1991
[23:27] <Zinn> I just deleted: rhpot1991
[23:27] <rhpot1991> !stab tgm4883
[23:27]  * Zinn stabs tgm4883 with a rusty spork.
[23:28] <tgm4883> :(
[23:28] <Daviey> /sbin/poweroff = /sbin/halt :P
[23:28] <Daviey> == /sbin/reboot
[23:28] <Daviey> but i suspect reboot knows how it was spawned :)