[00:12] hmm on 9.04 mythbuntu consistently freezes... how can I diagnose what it doesn't like about the box? [00:13] Only real difference from the default install is that I setup my own partitions [00:19] secondly, why do my ide(pata) drives get assigned scsi device names? seems later on hal has issues with it [00:22] dserban_, freezes while doing what? [00:37] dserban_, by scsi device names, i'm assuming you mean sdX, and it has been that way for years [01:19] foxbuntu, well when I install it, it hits a certain percentage on install and the system hard locks... I can't see dmesg output I can't alt-sysrq etc... how do ubuntu bug reporters figure out wth is going on? [01:19] tgm4883, yeah I kinda figured. I've been running debian for years and it hasn't been like that... so I guess noob to ubuntu question [01:22] wow I was late in responding heh.. [01:22] ran stress.. o ooohh dmesg returned something fun [01:23] Bad page state in process 'kswapd0' [01:23] with a backtrace [01:54] hrrm looks like I may have to play with kernel params... or try a backported kernel? problem is... this happens on install ... yech [03:11] I'm familiar with LTSP already, but are there instructions for setting up a diskless server *without* using the control centre gui? My server has no gui. [03:17] PMantis, i'd X forward MCC then [03:17] there is a command line option to build the diskless stuff, but i dont think it'd nicely documented anywhere [03:17] I'd like to learn that anyway. [03:18] ltsp-build-client I'm sure. [03:18] yeah that's the basis for it [03:21] Personally, I don't like letting some script I didn't write run wild and configure things on a multi-purposed server. [03:21] PMantis: in which case, it's unwise to use any distribution.. [03:21] you should build your operating system from scratch, [03:22] If mythbuntu was the only thing that used PXE, and myth was the only thing on the server, then NBD. [03:23] I also have regular LTSP running, so don't want the scripts to modify that, but build a different chroot instead. [03:24] Daviey: I think that would be carrying it too far. ;) [03:24] Although I have used gentoo stage 1 before... that's close! :) [03:24] PMantis: well the people that created MCC are the same people that maintain the mythtv packages.. [03:25] So if you don't trust us to with the scripts inside MCC, how can you trust us with the myth packages? [03:27] It doesn't have anything to do with trust. Most GUI's made for lay people assume non-complicated and dedicated setups. As such, its likely it was written assuming no other LTSP chroots will be on the server, and installs the the myth chroot in /opt/ltsp/i386, which is already taken. As such, I'd like to run ltsp-build-client myself to build the frontend environment. [03:27] That's all... [03:28] ok [03:28] on that noted [03:28] !bed > Daviey [03:28] Sorry I don't know about bed > Daviey [03:38] Hey everybody... I'm new to Mythtv, and I had some questions... [03:38] 1. I've got DirectTV Satellite TV... is this going to make it difficult/impossible for me to run MythTV? [03:38] 2. Are there any recommended tuner cards for using with Satellite TV? [03:38] 3. Are all tuner cards limited to the number of channels that they can access? is this a hardware limitation? [03:38] Thanks! :) [04:35] Well I'm not entirely familiar with direct tv since I'm canuckistanian. But as long as there's a way to connect the receiver to the myth box, it's usable. Either direct (firewire/serial/usb) or via an ir transmitter. Such as commandir. [04:36] Depends if you want HD content, though again, can't really help you there as I'm resisting HD like the plague. [04:36] But hauppauge seems to make something useful. [04:37] 3. channels aren't really limited as if you're using a receiver (direct tv receiver) then you have no limit on channels at the card. [04:37] Since the set top box will do the channel changing [04:38] thanks! from looking at various tuner cards, it kept saying that the card was limited to using 125 channels or some such [04:40] HD content isnt a concern for me... I dont really care about it that much, so long as the quality is good enough that i can still see it [04:40] and how do you hook up the reciever to the myth box? I was kind of under the impression that I would remove my set-top box and replace it with the Myth box [04:41] is it more like I keep the set-top box i was given, and i chain the myth box off of it? [04:42] yep that's how it works... you connect either through component or err the regular way [04:43] and you connect to the card [04:43] which then encodes your video stream for myth to use [04:43] control wise you'd use firewire, or serial or usb. depends on your receiver and what's available [04:44] just google it [04:44] then... the channel control is based on those connections... if neither work then you need an ir transmitter [05:02] awesome. Thanks for the info. I've still got a lot of reading to do before I actually get to set it up, but I'm pretty excited already. MythTV looks awesome and I can't wait to play with it [12:43] can anyone help me with modeline configuration under xorg? [12:43] I cannot seem to make the resolution narrower or shorter. [15:26] hi all i just had a quick question, how does one running mythtv get program guide info? it used to be free from direct something, but they got bought and now they arent free.. [15:46] scales11: Sometimes (like here in germany) EPG data is in the broadcast, or you can use xmltv if available for your country [15:50] i am in usa...i am pretty sure they dont broadcast it [15:50] so i would need to use xml.. [15:54] So anyone running mythbuntu karmic koala? [16:12] !schedules% | scales11 [16:12] Sorry I don't know about schedules% [16:13] !sd | scales11 [16:13] Sorry I don't know about sd [16:13] hmm [16:13] scales11, use schedules direct, it's $20/year [16:38] tgm4883: yeah i know, it just have win7 and its media center is pretty darn good, there are just a few features that mythtv has that are nice. [16:39] tgm4883: and the schedule thing used to be free! i have a problem with companies coming along and making people pay for things that they used to get for free [16:39] scales11, IIRC, thats not entirely what happened [16:40] tgm4883: right, they had problems, got bought out? [16:40] something like that? [16:40] i havent used mythtv in years... [16:40] so i am a little out of the loop [16:41] no, IIRC, zap2it stopped offering the xml data period. Some mythtv guys scrambled to get something in place and made a deal with TMS to get channel data. The mythtv guys founded SD, and have to pay for the data. [16:42] They only wanted to charge what it cost, which goes down per subscriber in economies of scale [16:42] so in the begining it was $20/3 months cause they didn't know how much it would cost [16:43] they must have got enough subscribers to bring it down to $20/year shortly after that ( 2-3 months) [16:44] ah [16:44] i see [16:44] well i can respect that [16:44] thanks for the info [16:45] np [16:45] i will be back with more questions later :P gtg for now [17:58] I just installed mythbuntu via Wubi. When I run it, I get "cannot connect to database" each time. I have tried enabling the mysql server and the primary backend role in the mythbuntu control centre, but I'm still having the same problem. How do i set up MySQL for mythtv? [18:16] hey, it seems, annoyingly, that since i enabled vnc in the control center and rebooted, that vnc hasnt restarted [18:16] how does one manually start it from the cli? [18:16] there's nothing in /etc/init.d/ [18:16] and annoyingly the backend is headless [18:29] I think I fixed my own problem... [19:46] hi all [19:47] i have a thermaltake mozart media lab [19:47] and i want to install mythbuntu [19:48] anyone here has the same case? [19:56] !help [19:56] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [20:00] I did a dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-backend which fixed my other problem. my new problem is that ubuntu doesn't appear to have a driver for my capture card. it's "Multimedia controller: Fujitsu Limited. Device 202a." Does anyone here know how to get this card working? (or know of someplace else besides #ubuntu where I could ask about it?) [20:22] Apparently nobody knows. I've been staring at mythbuntu for hours and it's obviously not going to work on my machine. [21:02] Hi [21:14] Anyone using JAMU? According to the wiki, its shipped with Mythtv, but I'm not finding it. [21:15] Nevermind, found it :) [21:30] !hello | PLC [21:30] Sorry I don't know about hello [21:32] I'm french [21:32] I buy a Dvico station .... but it's very bad system [21:33] I think, i'm going to make a HTPC with Mythtv [21:33] but i don't know if we can do all thing with the remote [21:33] a remote * [21:33] all things? [21:34] yes [21:34] like what? [21:34] you can do anything in MythTV with a remote [21:34] navigate in all system without mouse and keyboard [21:35] yea, you can do that, some remotes are limited by the amounts of buttons they have though [21:35] ok [21:35] you can have 2 tuner ? [21:35] +s [21:36] record one tv station and see another or watch DivX [21:36] ? [21:36] yes, you can have many tuners distributed accross multiple computers [21:36] or in the same computer [21:36] ok [21:36] and yes, watch one, record another [21:36] the same for me :p [21:36] or record 2 [21:36] also [21:36] héhé [21:36] :) [21:36] !multirec [21:36] hmm [21:36] Sorry I don't know about multirec [21:36] cool [21:37] you can record 2 channel and watch a media file like MP3 / MP4 ... AVI .... stream .. ??? :D [21:37] yes [21:37] GREAT =) [21:38] it's for me ^^ [21:38] how many time you must wait before use the system ? [21:38] or swap between applications ? [21:38] i'm not sure what you mean [21:39] I want to create a HTPC with this system (ubuntu + MythTV) [21:40] the time of the boot is long ? [21:40] I know the hardware change the value ... but :p [21:41] booting depends on the system [21:41] but it's usually pretty quick [21:41] less 30Seconds ? [21:42] if I do this box .... I use a good hardware [21:42] probably about that, usually you don't turn your computer off so it can record programs that you set schedules for [21:42] oups [21:42] :p [21:42] sorry [21:43] dont worry about it, happens all the time [21:43] shortcut fails :p [21:44] another problem come ... [21:44] is the consumption of the system [21:44] in stand by [21:45] no idea [21:45] i know ... [21:45] a standard PC is 150-200W [21:46] in stand by .... mini 100W [21:47] I want to install on a Mac Mini [21:47] but some problems appear with the tuner [21:47] consumption is 15W [21:57] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_an_Intel_Mac_Mini_using_Ubuntu [21:57] :) [22:01] i try to find with tuner DVB :D [22:05] i go to my bed [22:05] bye ! [22:05] :) === teprrrr is now known as teprrr === tritium_ is now known as tritium [23:09] Okay, this must be an easy question. How do you shutdown the Mythbuntu from the CLI? I use sudo shutdown now but it doesn't shut all the way down. [23:10] gizmobay: try sudo halt [23:10] okay, I'll try that next time [23:11] gizmobay: shutdown doesn't poweroff without the -h switch. [23:11] aww, I see. Thanks [23:19] or sudo poweroff [23:26] @delete - test [23:26] I just deleted: - test [23:26] @delete test [23:26] I just deleted: test [23:27] @delete tgm4883 [23:27] I just deleted: tgm4883 [23:27] @delete thingy [23:27] I just deleted: thingy [23:27] @delete rhpot1991 [23:27] I just deleted: rhpot1991 [23:27] !stab tgm4883 [23:27] * Zinn stabs tgm4883 with a rusty spork. [23:28] :( [23:28] /sbin/poweroff = /sbin/halt :P [23:28] == /sbin/reboot [23:28] but i suspect reboot knows how it was spawned :)