[00:00] <FelpsJ> yes
[00:00] <polycarbonate> and you are connected with wireless rightg
[00:00] <FelpsJ> yes
[00:00] <FelpsJ> i had never tryed to connect by ethernet
[00:00] <FelpsJ> Today i tryed and couldnt connect
[00:00] <polycarbonate> so the only problem is ethernet?
[00:00] <polycarbonate> hmm
[00:00] <FelpsJ> yes
[00:01] <polycarbonate> may be because your ethernet card is not recognised
[00:01] <polycarbonate> do you see eth0
[00:01] <polycarbonate> in ifconfig?
[00:01] <polycarbonate> or ifconfig -a
[00:01] <FelpsJ> no
[00:01] <polycarbonate> yes thats the problem
[00:01] <FelpsJ> i see in ifconfig -a:
[00:02] <FelpsJ> lo   -    loopback
[00:02] <FelpsJ> wlan0   - the wifi
[00:02] <FelpsJ> and pan0   - i dont know what is
[00:02] <polycarbonate> its bluetooth
[00:02] <polycarbonate> unlucky
[00:02] <FelpsJ> hum
[00:02] <polycarbonate> your ethernet card is not recognised
[00:03] <polycarbonate> %80 work out of the box
[00:03] <FelpsJ> can i look for drivers?
[00:03] <polycarbonate> yeah
[00:03] <FelpsJ> how sad.
[00:03] <polycarbonate> lol
[00:03] <polycarbonate> is it laptop?
[00:03] <FelpsJ> yes
[00:03] <FelpsJ> an old one
[00:03] <FelpsJ> ^^
[00:03] <polycarbonate> :)
[00:04] <polycarbonate> well you should find out the ethernet card brand and model
[00:04] <FelpsJ> Xircon
[00:05] <FelpsJ> the model i dont know. any way to know model in ubuntu?
[00:05] <polycarbonate> well i dont know any further about installing drivers
[00:05] <polycarbonate> i ussually search and find a how-to
[00:05] <polycarbonate> :)
[00:06] <FelpsJ> ok. thank you
[00:06] <FelpsJ> google will help me now heheeheh
[00:06] <FelpsJ> :)
[00:06] <polycarbonate> but ask others if there is an option for installing restricted drivers or something
[00:06] <polycarbonate> your welcome :)
[00:06] <FelpsJ> i think yes. I installed a windows driver for the wifi adapter.
[00:07] <polycarbonate> do you have windows installed in another partition?
[00:08] <polycarbonate> maybe you could find the model number there
[00:08] <FelpsJ> yes.
[00:08] <FelpsJ> i will try. :)
[00:08] <polycarbonate> well then find it :)
[00:08] <polycarbonate> ok
[00:08] <FelpsJ> didnt think about this!
[00:08] <polycarbonate> !!
[00:08] <FelpsJ> :P
[00:08] <FelpsJ> thank you.
[00:09] <FelpsJ> let's try.
[00:09] <FelpsJ> see you
[00:27] <FelpsJ> polycarbonate, I'm back
[00:27] <FelpsJ> It was just reboot
[00:27] <FelpsJ> It's working now
[00:27] <FelpsJ> \o/
[00:27] <polycarbonate> :D
[00:27] <polycarbonate> interesting
[00:27] <polycarbonate> u did nothing?
[00:28] <FelpsJ> nops
[00:28] <polycarbonate> well nice
[00:28] <FelpsJ> i rebooted in windows
[00:28] <FelpsJ> and copy the model
[00:28] <FelpsJ> when i back to ubuntu... voialá
[00:28] <FelpsJ> it's working ;)
[00:29] <polycarbonate> 01101011011001010111001001100101011011010110001001101111011110100110010001100001011100110011100100110001010000000110100001101111011101000110110101100001011010010110110000101110011000110110111101101101
[00:29] <FelpsJ> ?
[00:29] <polycarbonate> copy this
[00:29] <polycarbonate> keep it
[00:29] <FelpsJ> cant understand binary :)
[00:29] <polycarbonate> :)
[00:29] <polycarbonate> http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayGround/Binary_Conversion/Binary_To_Text.asp
[00:30] <FelpsJ> ok
[00:30] <polycarbonate> see you
[00:30] <FelpsJ> ok
[00:30] <FelpsJ> thank you
[00:30] <polycarbonate> ur welcome add me
[00:30] <Foxtrot> can anyone help me with a problem? I can't connect to the internet on any linux distro
[00:32] <polycarbonate> do you use ethernet connection?
[00:32] <polycarbonate> or a usb router?
[00:32] <Foxtrot> cat5
[00:32] <Foxtrot> wired
[00:33] <polycarbonate> is your ethernet car recognised?
[00:33] <Foxtrot> ?
[00:33] <polycarbonate> try ifconfig -a
[00:33] <Foxtrot> how can I tell?
[00:33] <polycarbonate> ok
[00:33] <polycarbonate> open command line
[00:33] <polycarbonate> i mean terminal
[00:33] <polycarbonate> and type
[00:34] <polycarbonate> ifconfig
[00:34] <Foxtrot> says command not found
[00:34] <polycarbonate> omg, howcome..
[00:35] <polycarbonate> ifconfig utilities are installed on all linux sytems
[00:35] <polycarbonate> hmm
[00:35] <Foxtrot> I am using moblin
[00:35] <polycarbonate> i dont think i can help :(
[00:35] <polycarbonate> oh
[00:35] <Foxtrot> moblin is linux though right?
[00:36] <polycarbonate> yes it is
[00:36] <polycarbonate> is it open source?
[00:36] <polycarbonate> and free
[00:36] <Foxtrot> yes
[00:37] <polycarbonate> its highly customised
[00:37] <polycarbonate> i dont know sorry :)
[00:38] <Foxtrot> I have tried two OSes before this, nothing linux will run with internet but it works with xp
[00:38] <polycarbonate> i guess its because of the ethernet card
[00:38] <polycarbonate> do you have xp in another partition?
[00:39] <Foxtrot> yes
[00:39] <polycarbonate> do you know the brand and model number?
[00:39] <polycarbonate> of the eth. car
[00:39] <polycarbonate> *card
[00:39] <Foxtrot> no clue
[00:39] <Foxtrot> I have an eeepc 1005ha
[00:39] <polycarbonate> oh
[00:40] <polycarbonate> eeepc components must be working out of the box
[00:40] <polycarbonate> is it new?
[00:40] <Foxtrot> yes
[00:40] <polycarbonate> very recent?
[00:40] <polycarbonate> how many months before you bought it?
[00:40] <Foxtrot> 4 days old
[00:40] <polycarbonate> maybe thats why
[00:41] <Foxtrot> why?
[00:41] <polycarbonate> the new drivers arent added in releases
[00:42] <Foxtrot> oh
[00:42] <Foxtrot> crap
[00:42] <polycarbonate> you must find the drivers for linux and intall it
[00:42] <polycarbonate> maybe you can find a how-to on internet
[00:43] <Foxtrot> hmm ok
[00:43] <Foxtrot> thanks I will check it out
[00:47] <polycarbonate> hey foxtrot
[00:48] <polycarbonate> there is a guy who has the same problems as you
[00:48] <polycarbonate> here: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=73603
[00:49] <polycarbonate> HEY FOXTROT PROBLEM SOLVED HEEEEYYY
[00:49] <polycarbonate> look here
[00:50] <polycarbonate> there is a script which installs everything needed and corrects some annoyances in 5 mins
[00:54] <Fizban140new> this is far too much work to get linux working
[00:57] <Fizban140> well
[00:57] <Fizban140> now I have no way of getting any drivers on my netbook
[00:57] <Fizban140> since the last distro of linux correputed my flash drive
[00:57] <Fizban140> linux wont read my external hdd
[00:57] <Fizban140> so I am fucked
[00:58] <Fizban140> have to go out and buy a new flash drive just to spend another day trying to get this thing to work
[00:58] <Fizban140> thats what is so great about windows, it just fucking works
[01:33] <SiDi> Fizban140: windows just never worked out of the box for my hardware, while ubuntu did perform much better each time
[01:34] <TheSheep> Fizban140: please mind your language
[01:34] <SiDi> And i seriously doubt you cant boot on an usb stick or even on your external HDD and use it to install w/e OS you want from there
[01:34] <SiDi> and this has nothing to do with installed systems, it has to do with your bios
[01:35] <TheSheep> or a hardware failure
[02:23] <n2diy> what was the first version of Xubuntu?
[02:24] <forces> 6.06 I guess
[02:24] <forces> dapper
[02:25] <n2diy> ok, tnks
[03:30] <Ese> hi
[03:30] <Ese> I dual boot xubuntu and windows vista
[03:30] <Ese> I'm on a netbook
[03:30] <Ese> and apparently xubuntu messed up my bluetooth
[03:31] <Ese> neither windows nor xubuntu display my bluetooth receiver
[03:43] <forces> turn it on
[03:43] <forces> some laptops have a switch
[03:46] <Ese> nop, this one doesn't
[05:28] <kromar> hi, i installed a new harddrive and xubunto is not on the same partition anymore, how do i restore grub?
[08:01] <miguelonnnn> hi! i'm reading a xubuntu man and it says "add this script to the startup items". How can i do it?
[08:13] <miguelonnnn> done it :)
[08:13] <_Pete_> how?
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> applications ->settings -> startup & sesion
[08:14] <miguelonnnn> there's a tab there named "autostart"
[08:15] <miguelonnnn> simply add what you need ;)
[08:15] <_Pete_> great
[08:15] <_Pete_> seems to be totally new for me :)
[08:15] <miguelonnnn> yeah its a little different from ubuntu hehe
[08:15] <miguelonnnn> well got to restartt see you later _Pete_ _ :) byee
[08:16] <_Pete_> bye
[08:38] <rgnr> hey all
[08:38] <rgnr> how do i unloch flashdrive?
[10:22] <Dorn> Heya, anyone up for little help with problem with my monitor?
[10:52] <_Pete_> !vnc
[11:48] <Dorn> hmm im trying to change resolution with "xrandr --output default --mode "1024x768" just says xrandr: cannot find mode 1024x768, i already made that mode with cvt and xrandr newmode, any tips to make this work?
[14:21] <CharelB> I'm using two screens ... and xfce ... can i use on one screen one workspace and on the second screen an another workspace?
[14:27] <TheSheep> you can have them as two displays, with independent workspaces both
[15:02] <CharelB> TheSheep, how?
[15:30] <TheSheep> CharelB: I think it depends on your graphics card
[15:30] <TheSheep> !twinhead
[15:31] <CharelB> I've got an Nvidia Geforce 8600
[15:31] <TheSheep> !dualhead | CharelB
[15:31] <CharelB> thank you
[18:56] <kromar1> hi, can someone help me with a grub problem?
[18:57] <vinnl> !ask :)
[18:57] <vinnl> !ask
[20:20] <slow-motion> hi
[22:46] <lobo> hey, the wireless icon on the top panel is missing and its not automatically being picked up.  i tried "Adding new items.." but couldn't find anything related.
[22:59] <lobo> bump
[23:01] <Roogar> bump!?
[23:01] <knome> lobo, you have to add notification area
[23:03] <lobo> ok I get a dialog that first says "There is already a notification area running on this screen. "  Then immediately after I get "Could not open "systray" module"
[23:04] <knome> okay, then press "alt+f2" and run "nm-applet"
[23:06] <lobo> doesn't seem to do anything
[23:07] <lobo> alright i see the process running, but i still don't see the network menu that I had before.
[23:16] <knome> hmm.
[23:16] <knome> lobo, are you sure it isn't somewhere else? is there a small arrow somewhere? it might be hidden.
[23:18] <lobo> nope
[23:18] <lobo> my wireless usually automatically connects when i login, but it didn't after my last reboot
[23:19] <lobo> my wireless card seems to be working, i was able to scan networks thru ifconfig
[23:20] <ldez> I'm a noob so it might be best to ignore me... But maybe something had accidentally closed it and your session cache saved it? Get knome to verify my thoughts first.. but maybe you should clear your /.cache/ in home folder?
[23:23] <knome> lobo, is there an icon with two monitors?
[23:23] <lobo> no
[23:24] <lobo> There's only [Applications] (on LHS)  and [Bluetooth] [Screenlets] [X-Chat] [Time] [Quit] on RHS
[23:24] <lobo> i also just noticed that I lost my virtual desktop
[23:26] <sidi> ldez: lobo feel free to repeat the problem you're having, cause i disconnected and i dont know what you said below:p
[23:27] <sidi> lobo: did your network applet disappear ?
[23:27] <lobo> yes
[23:27] <sidi> Okey
[23:27] <lobo> after a reboot
[23:27] <lobo> i was trying to install compiz
[23:27] <sidi> you can launch it again with 'nm-applet'
[23:28] <lobo> i tried that, but it isn't showing up
[23:28] <sidi> Okey
[23:28] <sidi> Please open a console and type it again
[23:28] <lobo> ** (nm-applet:6033): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[23:29] <sidi> okey
[23:29] <sidi> so it looks like its started but not attached to the panels by some kind of magic
[23:29] <lobo> yah, =[
[23:29] <sidi> try nm-applet --help
[23:29] <lobo> i also lost my other virtual desktop too
[23:29] <knome> gosh
[23:29] <sidi> i dont have it myself so i dont know the arguments you can give it but its very likely that you can kill it
[23:30] <sidi> compiz is known to trash your number of virtual desktops
[23:30] <sidi> you can reconfigure them with simple-ccsm
[23:30] <knome> that was a nasty disconnect
[23:30] <sidi> welcome in my world, knome
[23:30] <Roogar> Hi, I just installed xubuntu and have zero experiecne with linux.  I see there's an update manager with a rather large list of updates.  Do I want/need to grab all these or are some optional?
[23:30] <knome> sidi, ;))
[23:31] <knome> Roogar, there is the subtitles which tell which are important, optional etc.
[23:31] <knome> Roogar, i recommend you install them all though.
[23:31] <Roogar> alright ty, i'll just grab them all
[23:31] <sidi> Roogar: between releases, you are only offerred translation updates and security fixes, so there is no reason to refuse them
[23:32] <Roogar> so is there some sort of master list and people post the updates they've created to them and xubuntu checks it upon startup/connection to interwebs?
[23:32] <sidi> It happens (very very rarely) that something doesn't work for a few users after an update, though, so when you see that the "linux" package itself is in the list, try to keep it in mind incase something stops working right after a reboot
[23:33] <sidi> Roogar: actually, when security breaches are discovered, developers fix them and the ubuntu developers then grab the fix, make it work with the current version in ubuntu if appropriate, and then upload the new version to the ubuntu servers
[23:33] <sidi> then your computer checks what's new in the ubuntu servers
[23:34] <sidi> this means only canonical employees can send security updates between releases
[23:34] <sidi> And your computer makes sure that these updates come from a verified server, so you're completely sure that noone apart from canonical is sending you updates
[23:35] <sidi> which is much more secure than updates per application :)
[23:35] <Roogar> well then, how handy!
[23:36] <lobo> alright i just uninstalled all that compiz crap
[23:36] <lobo> anyone have any other ideas before i reboot?
[23:37] <sidi> lobo, please paste 'aptitude search networkmanager'
[23:37] <sidi> !paste
[23:37] <sidi> and also, paste "ls .config/autostart"
[23:38] <lobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/270562/
[23:43] <sidi> oh
[23:44] <sidi> ls ~/.config/autostart sorry :)
[23:44] <sidi> (~ = /home/<yourname> which is your working directory when you open the terminal :d)
[23:45] <lobo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/270566/
[23:45] <lobo> yah that i was my bad.
[23:46] <sidi> wow, not many things here
[23:46] <sidi> and definately not nm-applet
[23:47] <sidi> I dont know what to do honnestly :/ i'm not sure what causes your problem
[23:48] <knome> lobo, you can try removing ~/.config
[23:48] <knome> lobo, and maybe ~/.cache too
[23:48] <lobo> will that be automatically recreated when x starts?
[23:48] <knome> lobo, that will of course remove your configs
[23:49] <lobo> its a fresh install
[23:49] <lobo> so not much config
[23:49] <ldez> Instead of removing them, maybe it would be wise to rename them to something like ~/.cacheBackup/ .. so that in case that doesn't solve the problem, then you still have a copy?
[23:50] <lobo> very wise ldez
[23:50] <knome> ldez, you'd still have a broken cache/cfg backup and had to solve what is wrong - configurating things again might be more convenient
[23:51] <ldez> Heh, like I said.. I'm a noob so don't take anything I say for a good idea without it being verified by someone smarter, which knome seems to be.. sidi *definitely* is...
[23:51] <knome> if you want to save your .cache and .config it is a good idea, but as you have a fresh installation, you should just remove them
[23:51] <lobo> alright
[23:52] <lobo> wait, is there something that actively tracks directory changes?
[23:52] <lobo> otherwise wouldn't mv be just as effective as rm
[23:52] <lobo> ?
[23:53] <knome> there is not that tracks the changes and remembers them
[23:55] <lobo> alright i'm gonna reboot
[23:57] <lobo> nice!
[23:57] <lobo> its working
[23:57] <lobo> strange
[23:59] <sidi> lobo: im still very curious about how you installed compiz :)
[23:59] <lobo> well i didnt do it successfully