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MacSlowhm14:24
MacSlowThis might be a very odd question here... but can anybody recommend a OSX irc-client that's close to xchat in terms of UI?14:25
* MacSlow feels filthy :) 14:26
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tedgWow, these guys are taking the OCAL interface, throwing it through Google Translate, and making it so that you can do a keyword search in French for clipart.16:45
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MDC1'lo all17:28
MDC1about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/301552 - would we also like to see the orig path as well?17:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 301552 in nautilus "in trash: show delete-date " [Unknown,Confirmed] 17:29
mac_vMDC1: that would be nice17:37
MDC1mac_v, would it bother a lot if the options were availble when you're NOT in trash:// ?17:37
mac_vwhy do you want to show when not in trash? is it not possible to show only for files in the trash?17:38
mac_vMDC1: maybe in the ribbon?17:38
mac_vwhen user selects the file , the orig path can be shown17:39
MDC1as the columns is not per folder i think i'll have to create a complete new view for the trash to make it possible....17:39
MDC1ah.. you mean the statusbar?17:39
MDC1hmm.. is that really a good idea?17:40
mac_vMDC1: no , the ribbon on the top.. where the "empty trash" button is present , the left side is empty anyway17:41
Guest61208DanRabbit1, hey17:44
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davidsiegelDanRabbit1, I did a lot of thinking about status icons17:44
MDC1mac_v, that area has never been used as per file actions before... so i don't think so...17:44
mac_vMDC1: it doesnt have to include actions , just to display the original location... but if its not allowed :(17:47
mac_vdavidsiegel: the empathy ones?17:47
davidsiegelno, the ones used in the status menu17:47
MDC1mac_v, almost the same ... per file info...17:47
mac_vdavidsiegel: the "man" in various actions?17:48
mac_vor the triangle ... circle?17:49
davidsiegelmac_v latter17:49
mac_vdavidsiegel: could you check the latest rev...17:54
MDC1mac_v, when sorting on deleted time - would you still want the folders to be at the top?17:57
MDC1or davidsiegel^17:57
mac_vMDC1: nope... if its sorted by deleted time, shouldnt matter if its a folder or not18:01
mac_vMDC1: you asked for list view right?18:02
MDC1mac_v, every other other option does sort with folders first..18:02
MDC1yes, listview18:02
MDC1mac_v, nevermind.. seems i got that boolean from *above*18:03
mac_vMDC1: thats because of the option "sort folders before files"18:03
MDC1mac_v, ahh, thanks.. then i won't touch it ;-)18:03
MDC1mac_v, name of trash time column? "Deleted"? "Trashed"?18:05
mac_vMDC1: huh? you have a column "deleted" ... or is is "delete date/time"18:06
mac_vis it*18:06
MDC1http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png18:06
MDC1sorry, i just took for granted you seen it ;-)18:06
mac_vMDC1: it would be better if its "Deleted on"18:08
mac_vMDC1: also... why is the date modified column shown? it seems unnecessary18:09
MDC1is that also ok if the column is empty (when showing that icon in non trash:// folder)?18:09
MDC1mac_v, it's configurated to show modified18:09
mac_vMDC1: cant the trash be confired to show a specific number columns ? separate form the rest?   similar to how we can set different views for different folders?18:11
mac_vconfigured*18:11
MDC1mac_v, that's my wish, but it seems the columns configured is not per folder18:11
mac_vshowing an empty column in any location is not good ;)18:12
MDC1mac_v, nope, but it can be hidden as default..18:12
mac_vMDC1: so if its hidden as default , it can be set to display only for the trash?18:13
MDC1not only18:13
mac_vhrm..18:13
mac_vMDC1: hehe ...  i think thats why nautilus devs havent implemented it until now ;p18:15
MDC1mac_v, probably ...18:15
MDC1mac_v, http://mejlamej.nu/trash.png18:25
mac_vMDC1: looks good :) , but it is better as "Deleted on" , and why is it listing "CEST" ? that neednt be there18:27
MDC1mac_v, i'll change to Deleted on, CEST - no idea - i'm using the same code as mod time and friends..18:28
MDC1mac_v, probably a localization setting somewhere in the system18:29
mac_vMDC1: hmm.. does the date accessed / date modified show the "CEST" ? those dont show zone for me 18:29
MDC1mac_v, in my swedish setup i have "fre 15 maj 2009 19.16.13"18:30
MDC1yep.. 18:30
mac_voh , maybe you have it setup as such ;)18:30
MDC1mac_v, see this one http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png18:30
MDC1well, me and me, its standard ubuntu setup18:31
MDC1us setting i think18:31
mac_vyeah , must be some time setting somewhere ;)18:31
mac_vMDC1: there is an option "Choose the order of information to appear in this folder"18:32
mac_vthat must mean each folder can have different settings18:33
mac_vMDC1: Edit > visible columns ... you get that option18:34
MDC1mac_v, HA - that one is super buggy18:34
MDC1double click the options and it will get out of sync18:35
mac_vMDC1: so what you need to do is to simply set the custom order for the trash , bugs can be solved later ;p18:35
MDC1hmmm.. wonder how..18:36
mac_vMDC1: the custom order must be stored somewhere... gconf? 18:37
MDC1or the magick nautilus store..18:37
MDC1now converted to some gvfs structure i know little about18:37
MDC1mac_v, was your column chooser buggy?18:39
MDC1mac_v, ~/.nautilus/metafiles/migrated-to-gvfs - the meta files for each folder used to be here...18:41
mac_vMDC1: it is a bit buggy, in the sense , the chooser doesnt change immediately on changing  , it needs to be opened again for the setting to take place... or refreshed18:41
MDC1mac_v, but sometimes it changes.. and gets out sync18:41
mac_vMDC1: its a bit buggy , but thats not your fault ;)18:42
MDC1nope, and that feels good ;-)18:42
MDC1mac_v, however, even if we don't set a default to show "deleted on" the option is there and that was what the bug was all about - right?18:44
mac_vMDC1: rather than having it as an option in the prefs, it would be better to show it as default :)18:45
MDC1mac_v, list view isn't the default anyway...18:45
MDC1mac_v, or .. if you find the gconf entry - lemme know ;-)18:45
mac_vMDC1: hmm... true... so no probs for you ;)18:46
MDC1let's start with this and see what the nautilus devs has to say..18:46
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