[14:24] <MacSlow> hm
[14:25] <MacSlow> This might be a very odd question here... but can anybody recommend a OSX irc-client that's close to xchat in terms of UI?
[14:26]  * MacSlow feels filthy :) 
[16:45] <tedg> Wow, these guys are taking the OCAL interface, throwing it through Google Translate, and making it so that you can do a keyword search in French for clipart.
[17:28] <MDC1> 'lo all
[17:29] <MDC1> about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/301552 - would we also like to see the orig path as well?
[17:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 301552 in nautilus "in trash: show delete-date " [Unknown,Confirmed] 
[17:37] <mac_v> MDC1: that would be nice
[17:37] <MDC1> mac_v, would it bother a lot if the options were availble when you're NOT in trash:// ?
[17:38] <mac_v> why do you want to show when not in trash? is it not possible to show only for files in the trash?
[17:38] <mac_v> MDC1: maybe in the ribbon?
[17:39] <mac_v> when user selects the file , the orig path can be shown
[17:39] <MDC1> as the columns is not per folder i think i'll have to create a complete new view for the trash to make it possible....
[17:39] <MDC1> ah.. you mean the statusbar?
[17:40] <MDC1> hmm.. is that really a good idea?
[17:41] <mac_v> MDC1: no , the ribbon on the top.. where the "empty trash" button is present , the left side is empty anyway
[17:44] <Guest61208> DanRabbit1, hey
[17:44] <davidsiegel> DanRabbit1, I did a lot of thinking about status icons
[17:44] <MDC1> mac_v, that area has never been used as per file actions before... so i don't think so...
[17:47] <mac_v> MDC1: it doesnt have to include actions , just to display the original location... but if its not allowed :(
[17:47] <mac_v> davidsiegel: the empathy ones?
[17:47] <davidsiegel> no, the ones used in the status menu
[17:47] <MDC1> mac_v, almost the same ... per file info...
[17:48] <mac_v> davidsiegel: the "man" in various actions?
[17:49] <mac_v> or the triangle ... circle?
[17:49] <davidsiegel> mac_v latter
[17:54] <mac_v> davidsiegel: could you check the latest rev...
[17:57] <MDC1> mac_v, when sorting on deleted time - would you still want the folders to be at the top?
[17:57] <MDC1> or davidsiegel^
[18:01] <mac_v> MDC1: nope... if its sorted by deleted time, shouldnt matter if its a folder or not
[18:02] <mac_v> MDC1: you asked for list view right?
[18:02] <MDC1> mac_v, every other other option does sort with folders first..
[18:02] <MDC1> yes, listview
[18:03] <MDC1> mac_v, nevermind.. seems i got that boolean from *above*
[18:03] <mac_v> MDC1: thats because of the option "sort folders before files"
[18:03] <MDC1> mac_v, ahh, thanks.. then i won't touch it ;-)
[18:05] <MDC1> mac_v, name of trash time column? "Deleted"? "Trashed"?
[18:06] <mac_v> MDC1: huh? you have a column "deleted" ... or is is "delete date/time"
[18:06] <mac_v> is it*
[18:06] <MDC1> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png
[18:06] <MDC1> sorry, i just took for granted you seen it ;-)
[18:08] <mac_v> MDC1: it would be better if its "Deleted on"
[18:09] <mac_v> MDC1: also... why is the date modified column shown? it seems unnecessary
[18:09] <MDC1> is that also ok if the column is empty (when showing that icon in non trash:// folder)?
[18:09] <MDC1> mac_v, it's configurated to show modified
[18:11] <mac_v> MDC1: cant the trash be confired to show a specific number columns ? separate form the rest?   similar to how we can set different views for different folders?
[18:11] <mac_v> configured*
[18:11] <MDC1> mac_v, that's my wish, but it seems the columns configured is not per folder
[18:12] <mac_v> showing an empty column in any location is not good ;)
[18:12] <MDC1> mac_v, nope, but it can be hidden as default..
[18:13] <mac_v> MDC1: so if its hidden as default , it can be set to display only for the trash?
[18:13] <MDC1> not only
[18:13] <mac_v> hrm..
[18:15] <mac_v> MDC1: hehe ...  i think thats why nautilus devs havent implemented it until now ;p
[18:15] <MDC1> mac_v, probably ...
[18:25] <MDC1> mac_v, http://mejlamej.nu/trash.png
[18:27] <mac_v> MDC1: looks good :) , but it is better as "Deleted on" , and why is it listing "CEST" ? that neednt be there
[18:28] <MDC1> mac_v, i'll change to Deleted on, CEST - no idea - i'm using the same code as mod time and friends..
[18:29] <MDC1> mac_v, probably a localization setting somewhere in the system
[18:29] <mac_v> MDC1: hmm.. does the date accessed / date modified show the "CEST" ? those dont show zone for me 
[18:30] <MDC1> mac_v, in my swedish setup i have "fre 15 maj 2009 19.16.13"
[18:30] <MDC1> yep.. 
[18:30] <mac_v> oh , maybe you have it setup as such ;)
[18:30] <MDC1> mac_v, see this one http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png
[18:31] <MDC1> well, me and me, its standard ubuntu setup
[18:31] <MDC1> us setting i think
[18:31] <mac_v> yeah , must be some time setting somewhere ;)
[18:32] <mac_v> MDC1: there is an option "Choose the order of information to appear in this folder"
[18:33] <mac_v> that must mean each folder can have different settings
[18:34] <mac_v> MDC1: Edit > visible columns ... you get that option
[18:34] <MDC1> mac_v, HA - that one is super buggy
[18:35] <MDC1> double click the options and it will get out of sync
[18:35] <mac_v> MDC1: so what you need to do is to simply set the custom order for the trash , bugs can be solved later ;p
[18:36] <MDC1> hmmm.. wonder how..
[18:37] <mac_v> MDC1: the custom order must be stored somewhere... gconf? 
[18:37] <MDC1> or the magick nautilus store..
[18:37] <MDC1> now converted to some gvfs structure i know little about
[18:39] <MDC1> mac_v, was your column chooser buggy?
[18:41] <MDC1> mac_v, ~/.nautilus/metafiles/migrated-to-gvfs - the meta files for each folder used to be here...
[18:41] <mac_v> MDC1: it is a bit buggy, in the sense , the chooser doesnt change immediately on changing  , it needs to be opened again for the setting to take place... or refreshed
[18:41] <MDC1> mac_v, but sometimes it changes.. and gets out sync
[18:42] <mac_v> MDC1: its a bit buggy , but thats not your fault ;)
[18:42] <MDC1> nope, and that feels good ;-)
[18:44] <MDC1> mac_v, however, even if we don't set a default to show "deleted on" the option is there and that was what the bug was all about - right?
[18:45] <mac_v> MDC1: rather than having it as an option in the prefs, it would be better to show it as default :)
[18:45] <MDC1> mac_v, list view isn't the default anyway...
[18:45] <MDC1> mac_v, or .. if you find the gconf entry - lemme know ;-)
[18:46] <mac_v> MDC1: hmm... true... so no probs for you ;)
[18:46] <MDC1> let's start with this and see what the nautilus devs has to say..