=== jamalta_ is now known as jamal === jamal is now known as jamalta === beuno-on-vacatio is now known as beuni === beuni is now known as beuno === smerp_ is now known as smerp === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [14:24] hm [14:25] This might be a very odd question here... but can anybody recommend a OSX irc-client that's close to xchat in terms of UI? [14:26] * MacSlow feels filthy :) === david is now known as Guest95679 === lamalex_2 is now known as lamalex === david is now known as Guest80540 [16:45] Wow, these guys are taking the OCAL interface, throwing it through Google Translate, and making it so that you can do a keyword search in French for clipart. === david is now known as Guest61208 [17:28] 'lo all [17:29] about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/301552 - would we also like to see the orig path as well? [17:29] Launchpad bug 301552 in nautilus "in trash: show delete-date " [Unknown,Confirmed] [17:37] MDC1: that would be nice [17:37] mac_v, would it bother a lot if the options were availble when you're NOT in trash:// ? [17:38] why do you want to show when not in trash? is it not possible to show only for files in the trash? [17:38] MDC1: maybe in the ribbon? [17:39] when user selects the file , the orig path can be shown [17:39] as the columns is not per folder i think i'll have to create a complete new view for the trash to make it possible.... [17:39] ah.. you mean the statusbar? [17:40] hmm.. is that really a good idea? [17:41] MDC1: no , the ribbon on the top.. where the "empty trash" button is present , the left side is empty anyway [17:44] DanRabbit1, hey === Guest61208 is now known as davidsiegel [17:44] DanRabbit1, I did a lot of thinking about status icons [17:44] mac_v, that area has never been used as per file actions before... so i don't think so... [17:47] MDC1: it doesnt have to include actions , just to display the original location... but if its not allowed :( [17:47] davidsiegel: the empathy ones? [17:47] no, the ones used in the status menu [17:47] mac_v, almost the same ... per file info... [17:48] davidsiegel: the "man" in various actions? [17:49] or the triangle ... circle? [17:49] mac_v latter [17:54] davidsiegel: could you check the latest rev... [17:57] mac_v, when sorting on deleted time - would you still want the folders to be at the top? [17:57] or davidsiegel^ [18:01] MDC1: nope... if its sorted by deleted time, shouldnt matter if its a folder or not [18:02] MDC1: you asked for list view right? [18:02] mac_v, every other other option does sort with folders first.. [18:02] yes, listview [18:03] mac_v, nevermind.. seems i got that boolean from *above* [18:03] MDC1: thats because of the option "sort folders before files" [18:03] mac_v, ahh, thanks.. then i won't touch it ;-) [18:05] mac_v, name of trash time column? "Deleted"? "Trashed"? [18:06] MDC1: huh? you have a column "deleted" ... or is is "delete date/time" [18:06] is it* [18:06] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png [18:06] sorry, i just took for granted you seen it ;-) [18:08] MDC1: it would be better if its "Deleted on" [18:09] MDC1: also... why is the date modified column shown? it seems unnecessary [18:09] is that also ok if the column is empty (when showing that icon in non trash:// folder)? [18:09] mac_v, it's configurated to show modified [18:11] MDC1: cant the trash be confired to show a specific number columns ? separate form the rest? similar to how we can set different views for different folders? [18:11] configured* [18:11] mac_v, that's my wish, but it seems the columns configured is not per folder [18:12] showing an empty column in any location is not good ;) [18:12] mac_v, nope, but it can be hidden as default.. [18:13] MDC1: so if its hidden as default , it can be set to display only for the trash? [18:13] not only [18:13] hrm.. [18:15] MDC1: hehe ... i think thats why nautilus devs havent implemented it until now ;p [18:15] mac_v, probably ... [18:25] mac_v, http://mejlamej.nu/trash.png [18:27] MDC1: looks good :) , but it is better as "Deleted on" , and why is it listing "CEST" ? that neednt be there [18:28] mac_v, i'll change to Deleted on, CEST - no idea - i'm using the same code as mod time and friends.. [18:29] mac_v, probably a localization setting somewhere in the system [18:29] MDC1: hmm.. does the date accessed / date modified show the "CEST" ? those dont show zone for me [18:30] mac_v, in my swedish setup i have "fre 15 maj 2009 19.16.13" [18:30] yep.. [18:30] oh , maybe you have it setup as such ;) [18:30] mac_v, see this one http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31759573/trash-deleted.png [18:31] well, me and me, its standard ubuntu setup [18:31] us setting i think [18:31] yeah , must be some time setting somewhere ;) [18:32] MDC1: there is an option "Choose the order of information to appear in this folder" [18:33] that must mean each folder can have different settings [18:34] MDC1: Edit > visible columns ... you get that option [18:34] mac_v, HA - that one is super buggy [18:35] double click the options and it will get out of sync [18:35] MDC1: so what you need to do is to simply set the custom order for the trash , bugs can be solved later ;p [18:36] hmmm.. wonder how.. [18:37] MDC1: the custom order must be stored somewhere... gconf? [18:37] or the magick nautilus store.. [18:37] now converted to some gvfs structure i know little about [18:39] mac_v, was your column chooser buggy? [18:41] mac_v, ~/.nautilus/metafiles/migrated-to-gvfs - the meta files for each folder used to be here... [18:41] MDC1: it is a bit buggy, in the sense , the chooser doesnt change immediately on changing , it needs to be opened again for the setting to take place... or refreshed [18:41] mac_v, but sometimes it changes.. and gets out sync [18:42] MDC1: its a bit buggy , but thats not your fault ;) [18:42] nope, and that feels good ;-) [18:44] mac_v, however, even if we don't set a default to show "deleted on" the option is there and that was what the bug was all about - right? [18:45] MDC1: rather than having it as an option in the prefs, it would be better to show it as default :) [18:45] mac_v, list view isn't the default anyway... [18:45] mac_v, or .. if you find the gconf entry - lemme know ;-) [18:46] MDC1: hmm... true... so no probs for you ;) [18:46] let's start with this and see what the nautilus devs has to say.. === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk