| thumper | :) | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| thumper | I shelved my filter machine | 00:07 |
| thumper | it tastes a bit funny IMO | 00:07 |
| mwhudson | oh, i don't use a machine | 00:19 |
| thumper | mwhudson: what do you use to filter then? | 00:21 |
| mwhudson | a filter cone | 00:21 |
| mwhudson | this sort of thing: http://www.hrhiggins.co.uk/accessories/coffee/plastic_filter_cones | 00:21 |
| mwhudson | (they are utter bastards to buy) | 00:21 |
| * mwhudson votes for writing all wiki pages in latex | 00:47 | |
| jml | heh | 00:53 |
| jml | thumper, want to catch up some time today? | 01:02 |
| dhillon-v10 | hi all | 01:02 |
| thumper | jml: might be ackward today | 01:02 |
| jml | thumper, ok. later this week then. | 01:03 |
| jml | (next week, scheduling calls will be _much_ harder) | 01:03 |
| thumper | jml: definitly | 01:03 |
| thumper | my irc client needs check spelling as you type | 01:03 |
| jml | heh | 01:04 |
| mwhudson | jml: the vals thing in ec2test is horrible :( | 01:23 |
| jml | mwhudson, yes. | 01:23 |
| mwhudson | i think i'm ok with having perform() do environment-based interpolation | 01:32 |
| mwhudson | that sort of thing has a tradition behind it after all | 01:32 |
| mwhudson | jml: so you reviewed libraryize-ec2test | 01:34 |
| jml | mwhudson, I believe so. | 01:34 |
| mwhudson | jml: then i made some more changes | 01:34 |
| mwhudson | jml: *then* i fixed it so it works | 01:34 |
| jml | mwhudson, heh | 01:35 |
| jml | mwhudson, would you like to give me an interdiff to review? | 01:35 |
| mwhudson | jml: which is possibly backwards, but can i get you to look at the changes from libraryize-ec2test to ec2test-refactor-2 and then i'll land the latter branch? | 01:35 |
| mwhudson | jml: yeah | 01:35 |
| mwhudson | jml: https://pastebin.canonical.com/22056/ | 01:36 |
| jml | mwhudson, use a free pastebin :P | 01:37 |
| mwhudson | jml: the full branch is at bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/ec2test-refactor-2 if you want to look at the result rather than the changes | 01:37 |
| mwhudson | jml: oops | 01:37 |
| jml | http://paste.ubuntu.com/270595/ | 01:37 |
| mwhudson | jml: thanks | 01:38 |
| jml | mwhudson, sorry, I thought I'd deal with all of my work-related email first. Now I'm all over your diff. | 02:05 |
| mwhudson | jml: no worries | 02:06 |
| jml | ooh, a connection object | 02:07 |
| jml | what a lovely idea | 02:07 |
| jml | mwhudson, is ec2test going to end up looking an awful lot like a twisted program? | 02:07 |
| mwhudson | jml: maybe | 02:08 |
| mwhudson | jml: too early to tell, probably | 02:08 |
| jml | mwhudson, why did you change the _pythonpath import to manual sys.path mangling? | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | jml: because boto doesn't work with python2.4 | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | and _pythonpath _sets_ sys.path, it doesn't modify it | 02:10 |
| mwhudson | so importing dynamically loaded modules doesn't work | 02:10 |
| jml | sucks! | 02:10 |
| mwhudson | jml: launchpad should work on 2.5!! | 02:11 |
| mwhudson | and nearly does now, thanks maxb | 02:11 |
| jml | mwhudson, only a couple of other comments on the diff | 02:12 |
| jml | mwhudson, I don't know how I feel about user_p as a variable name | 02:12 |
| jml | it makes me think it's a predicate function :) | 02:12 |
| mwhudson | jml: heretic lisper! | 02:12 |
| jml | mwhudson, and I don't know how to spell 'set up' in function names: set_up or setup | 02:13 |
| mwhudson | jml: i think user_connection.perform is a bit too long | 02:13 |
| mwhudson | maybe user_perform is ok | 02:13 |
| mwhudson | jml: should probably be 'set up' | 02:13 |
| jml | even as_user | 02:13 |
| jml | mwhudson, other than those things, I'm happy with the branch. Definite improvement. | 02:14 |
| mwhudson | jml: ok, thanks | 02:15 |
| jml | mwhudson, do you know if maxb's timing patch landed? | 02:48 |
| jml | if you don't, I'll find out myself | 02:48 |
| mwhudson | jml: i have this vague feeling it did, not sure though | 02:49 |
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| jml | mwhudson, Launchpad says it's moved. | 02:52 |
| jml | merged, rather. | 02:52 |
| mwhudson | jml: it's probably right | 02:53 |
| * mwhudson dogfoods his ec2 branch and wanders off for lunch | 03:01 | |
| * ajmitch looks for an easy bug to chew on | 03:01 | |
| jml | ajmitch, the 'trivial' tag should be a good starting point. | 03:02 |
| ajmitch | yeah, that's what I'm looking at | 03:02 |
| jml | ajmitch, cool. | 03:02 |
| jml | ajmitch, let me know if you need a hand with anything. | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | oh I will :) | 03:03 |
| ajmitch | I have LP running on karmic here at least, started looking at bug 238588, but saw that there is X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale being added | 03:05 |
| mup | Bug #238588: "New code import" messages lack an X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale <email> <trivial> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/238588> | 03:05 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 238588 in launchpad-code ""New code import" messages lack an X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238588 | 03:05 |
| mup | Bug #238588: "New code import" messages lack an X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale <email> <trivial> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/238588> | 03:05 |
| mup | Bug #238588: "New code import" messages lack an X-Launchpad-Message-Rationale <email> <trivial> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/238588> | 03:05 |
| ajmitch | so I now need to try & reproduce it on a local setup | 03:05 |
| * ajmitch should just pick some simple UI bugs | 03:06 | |
| jml | hmm. | 03:09 |
| jml | spm, do you know who maintains mup and/or ubot3? | 03:09 |
| jml | spm, because I think one of them should die | 03:09 |
| * ajmitch must agree, given the spam above | 03:10 | |
| mwhudson | at least ubot3 seems to have repetition protection | 03:12 |
| mwhudson | otherwise there would be no end to it | 03:12 |
| jml | yeah. | 03:12 |
| jml | ajmitch, I'd definitely recommend a UI bug to start with. | 03:14 |
| jml | ajmitch, the smaller the bug, the better -- especially for your first patch. | 03:15 |
| ajmitch | less chance of doing things completely wrong | 03:15 |
| jml | ajmitch, that, but also it's a good way of learning all the boring things about Launchpad hacking :) | 03:16 |
| jml | ajmitch, i.e. it's a good way of separating learning about LP process from the LP code base. | 03:17 |
| jml | on a completely unrelated note | 03:17 |
| jml | where the hell is google gears for 64 bit linux? | 03:17 |
| * ajmitch just gets a popup in firefox at random intervals that it can't be installed | 03:20 | |
| jml | yeah. | 03:20 |
| === jamalta_ is now known as jamal | ||
| === jamal is now known as jamalta | ||
| maxb | ubot3: owner | 03:27 |
| ubot3 | This bot is owned by jussi01 - Questions about ubottu should be asked in #ubuntu-bots | 03:27 |
| maxb | jml: ^ | 03:27 |
| maxb | (and yes I am awake in complete defiance of my physical timezone) | 03:28 |
| jml | maxb, thanks. | 03:28 |
| maxb | Quick opinion poll: | 03:44 |
| maxb | lambda self: self.foo | 03:45 |
| maxb | or | 03:45 |
| maxb | from operator import attrgetter; attrgetter('foo') | 03:45 |
| maxb | ? | 03:45 |
| wgrant | maxb: I believe the style guide says the latter | 03:49 |
| wgrant | Although I probably prefer the former. | 03:49 |
| wgrant | https://dev.launchpad.net/PythonStyleGuide, section 13. | 03:50 |
| maxb | oh | 03:52 |
| maxb | the style guide is so big :-/ | 03:52 |
| wgrant | Ja. | 03:52 |
| wgrant | Aren't you violating the "no coding after 3am" guideline? | 03:53 |
| maxb | I slept, then I woke up at a nonsense time and didn't feel like falling asleep again straight away :-) | 03:55 |
| stub | I like lambda. I forget operator exists so never use it ;) | 03:55 |
| jml | maxb, lambda is fine. | 03:56 |
| wgrant | jml: The style guide needs fixing? | 03:56 |
| jml | wgrant, yes, it does. | 03:56 |
| wgrant | :( | 03:56 |
| jml | wgrant, I agree. | 03:56 |
| jml | tbh, I think it over-legislates. | 03:57 |
| jml | stub, attrgetter & itemgetter ought to be builtins, imnsho | 03:57 |
| maxb | My disagreement with attrgetter is that IMO you should never write code in strings if you can possibly avoid it | 03:59 |
| maxb | hmm, merge proposals really need an "update to latest branch revision in-place" button | 04:01 |
| jml | maxb, although I agree with the principle... | 04:01 |
| jml | maxb, since Python lacks a separate type for symbols, and thus uses strings, I think it's perfectly ok to use strings for attribute access | 04:02 |
| jml | maxb, and although dynamic attribute access is over-used by some & can be confusing, I think forbidding it entirely is unnecessarily restrictive. | 04:03 |
| * maxb wonders why superseding a merge proposal blocks the ability to further comment on it | 04:04 | |
| jml | maxb, there were reasons. | 04:05 |
| jml | I'm reasonably confident that the whole workflow around updating diffs in being changed for the better. | 04:05 |
| jml | but maybe thumper can say one way or the other. | 04:06 |
| spm | jml: I do love how you always manage to ping me *just* after I go afk for eg lunch :-) | 04:06 |
| jml | spm, it's rarely ever urgent :) | 04:06 |
| jml | actually, I'm just about to go out to lunch. | 04:06 |
| spm | jml: no, I'm not sure who maintains them. There was some noise around IS looking after same, but I'm unaware of the current status on that. | 04:07 |
| jml | spm, I've asked jussi01 on #ubuntu-bots (who owns ubot3) to kill off ubot3 | 04:07 |
| spm | cool, ta. | 04:07 |
| jml | spm, if they don't respond, I humbly suggest that we kickban ubot3 and send a polite email explaining why. | 04:07 |
| mwhudson | booooooooooooot faster ec2! | 04:08 |
| jml | maxb, I simply have to eat now. I'll review your branch when I get back from lunch. | 04:08 |
| mwhudson | i can review it now, while i wait for ec2 instances to do stuff | 04:10 |
| mwhudson | huh, property(attrgetter(attrname)) is a trick that hadn't occurred to me, i have to say | 04:21 |
| maxb | That wizardry came from allenap | 04:27 |
| jml | maxb, replied | 04:35 |
| jml | I was just thinking, it'd be nice to use that trick to make an 'alias' helper that took the old attribute name and an optional readonly boolean parameter. | 04:36 |
| maxb | jml: replied | 04:41 |
| mwhudson | gosh our test suite is really slow | 04:42 |
| jml | yeah, we should do something about that. | 04:44 |
| mwhudson | jml: if we can make ec2test not rely on being able to ssh to devpad, it can be a bunch simpler | 04:44 |
| mwhudson | jml: luckily you did something about that recently :) | 04:44 |
| jml | mwhudson, because all the agent stuff goes away? | 04:45 |
| mwhudson | jml: no, not that (we still need to ssh to launchpad) but some of the ssh config complexity | 04:45 |
| jml | mwhudson, ahh, I see. | 04:45 |
| mwhudson | (no need to dig out the proxycommand you and i use to connect through chinstrap) | 04:45 |
| jml | I guess ec2test needs to use SSH to get branches still? | 04:46 |
| mwhudson | yeah | 04:46 |
| mwhudson | we could update most of them over http i guess | 04:46 |
| maxb | ah, the old ProxyCommand ssh <somewhere> nc <somewhereelse> 22 trick? | 04:46 |
| mwhudson | which would let us --headless earlier, but would be a bit slower overall | 04:47 |
| mwhudson | maxb: yep | 04:47 |
| mwhudson | btw | 04:49 |
| mwhudson | does anyone know why i don't have a /usr/lib/jvm/default-java file? | 04:49 |
| maxb | apt-get install default-jdk ? | 04:49 |
| mwhudson | it looks like i have several jdk's installed | 04:49 |
| mwhudson | maxb: hm, that's doing something indeed | 04:50 |
| mwhudson | jml, thumper: do you have any branches that need ec2testing right now? | 04:50 |
| mwhudson | (or anyone else internal, but you should all be asleep :) | 04:51 |
| maxb | default-jdk is one of those packages which only really exists to serve as a build-dep | 04:51 |
| maxb | It's so that the distro-wide choice of OpenJDK/GCJ/Whatever can be made in a single place | 04:52 |
| jml | mwhudson, looking... | 04:52 |
| jml | mwhudson, nope | 04:53 |
| mwhudson | maxb: right, but i had openjdk, gcj and whatever installed already | 04:53 |
| mwhudson | maxb: i was expecting it to be more like the alternatives stuff i guess | 04:53 |
| mwhudson | maxb, wgrant: either of you have branches that need testing? | 04:53 |
| maxb | sorry, you've landed them all :-) | 04:53 |
| * mwhudson has a shiny new ec2test image | 04:53 | |
| maxb | though actually I did have a fairly mechanical change I was planning on doing... | 04:54 |
| * maxb wields grep | 04:54 | |
| mwhudson | jml: want to look at another ec2test knocking-about diff? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/270655/ | 04:56 |
| mwhudson | jml: it's still fairly horrible, but it allows one-step updating of the ec2test image | 04:57 |
| jml | mwhudson, wuu | 04:58 |
| * mwhudson runs "time ./utilities/ec2test.py --headless" for that branch | 04:58 | |
| jml | mwhudson, umm, could you please walk me through the changes? | 04:58 |
| mwhudson | jml: so one strand is ripping stuff out of testrunner (particularly EC2TestRunner.__init__) so that having a testrunner isn't vital to doing anything at all | 05:00 |
| mwhudson | jml: another strand is the stuff to add the bundling | 05:00 |
| mwhudson | and there are the inevitable driveby cleanups | 05:00 |
| mwhudson | jml: hang on, i'll annotate a diff | 05:03 |
| jml | mwhudson, thanks. | 05:04 |
| mwhudson | oh heh heh, i think i broke --headless | 05:06 |
| mwhudson | jml: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/270659/ | 05:08 |
| maxb | So, I have another branch which you could ec2test if you like...except launchpad is still falsely claiming it hasn't been pushed to yet :-/ | 05:12 |
| maxb | and I'm not getting the "Launchpad is processing new changes to this branch" banner on it either | 05:13 |
| mwhudson | maxb: new branches never say "processing changes" | 05:15 |
| mwhudson | (which is a bug) | 05:15 |
| maxb | How long do I wait before deciding that something is actually broken? | 05:17 |
| maxb | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~maxb/launchpad/debuild--no-conf ftr | 05:18 |
| maxb | hmm, I deleted the MP I created and it changed from "has not been pushed to" to "has not been scanned" | 05:20 |
| mwhudson | hmm looks like the scanner is stuck | 05:20 |
| mwhudson | spm: hi | 05:20 |
| mwhudson | maxb: that's interesting | 05:20 |
| mwhudson | but maybe just a coincidence | 05:20 |
| spm | mwhudson: heyo; stuck scanner? looking. | 05:20 |
| maxb | it may have just unstuck | 05:21 |
| mwhudson | seems like it | 05:22 |
| mwhudson | spm: can you sync the puller logs to devpad? | 05:22 |
| spm | sure | 05:22 |
| mwhudson | tia | 05:22 |
| * mwhudson watches ec2test.py --headless do stuff | 05:22 | |
| mwhudson | jml: wow, bug #420198 is next | 05:24 |
| ubot3 | Malone bug 420198 in launchpad-foundations "ec2test --headless takes way too long to detach" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420198 | 05:24 |
| mup | Bug #420198: ec2test --headless takes way too long to detach <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged by mwhudson> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/420198> | 05:24 |
| mup | Bug #420198: ec2test --headless takes way too long to detach <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged by mwhudson> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/420198> | 05:24 |
| mup | Bug #420198: ec2test --headless takes way too long to detach <build-infrastructure> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged by mwhudson> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/420198> | 05:24 |
| jml | mwhudson, nice. | 05:24 |
| jml | spm, do you have ops? | 05:24 |
| spm | mup really needs a "30 sec delay" mindset on reprint the same bug id.... | 05:25 |
| spm | jml: "ops"? | 05:25 |
| spm | mwhudson: puller synced and bzrsyncd for good measure. | 05:25 |
| jml | spm, IRC operator privileges | 05:25 |
| mwhudson | fortunately mup is written in a programming language we all know really well | 05:25 |
| mwhudson | (warning: may be a lie) | 05:26 |
| mwhudson | spm: thanks | 05:26 |
| jml | I do :) | 05:26 |
| spm | jml: no. and given I've been irc'ing for ~ 15 months, I wouldn't trust me :-) | 05:26 |
| mwhudson | jml: fwiw, i think "irc op" is quite different from "channel operator" | 05:27 |
| jml | my mistake :) | 05:27 |
| ajmitch | farewell, ubot3 | 05:28 |
| maxb | mwhudson: If you need something to ec2test, here's a (literally) one-liner change https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~maxb/launchpad/debuild--no-conf/+merge/11680 | 05:29 |
| mwhudson | maxb: ta | 05:31 |
| jml | ajmitch, heh. | 05:43 |
| mwhudson | it'll be back, when the banlist decays over time, as they always seem to do | 05:45 |
| ajmitch | easiest way is to just nag the owner | 05:46 |
| jml | ajmitch, this has been done :) | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | I'm glad :) | 05:47 |
| jml | mwhudson, ok, my attention is now returned to you | 05:50 |
| mwhudson | jml: hurrah | 05:52 |
| mwhudson | i think my stock of attention for today has almost run out ... | 05:54 |
| jml | mwhudson, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/270677/ | 06:00 |
| jml | mwhudson, here's the quick version: | 06:01 |
| jml | mwhudson, yay | 06:01 |
| jml | mwhudson, did you think of making make_instance a classmethod on ec2instance? | 06:01 |
| stub | And coffee just doesn't work like it used too. Now if I drink too much coffee I'm wired but can't pay attention to anything. | 06:01 |
| jml | mwhudson, demo_networks should be split out, save it for a separate branch. I know how it works, so I can happily help you there. | 06:02 |
| jml | mwhudson, it's a shame 'credentials' has to be a public attribute on account | 06:02 |
| mwhudson | <jml> mwhudson, did you think of making make_instance a classmethod on ec2instance? | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | no, that's probably a good idea | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | <jml> mwhudson, it's a shame 'credentials' has to be a public attribute on account | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | is it? | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | an EC2Credentials is a slightly strange thing, really | 06:04 |
| jml | yes, it is. | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | <jml> mwhudson, demo_networks should be split out, save it for a separate branch. I know how it works, so I can happily help you there. | 06:04 |
| mwhudson | hooray | 06:05 |
| jml | mwhudson, well, the only usage of the .credentials attribute is in bundle(), and it violates the Law of Demeter. I'm just worried (perhaps overly so) about tying this stuff together too much. | 06:06 |
| jml | mwhudson, and one usage + lots of dots trips a flag. | 06:07 |
| jml | mwhudson, but it's not a big deal. | 06:07 |
| mwhudson | jml: yeah, fair point | 06:08 |
| * mwhudson restructures a bit | 06:08 | |
| mwhudson | jml: interdiff | 06:14 |
| mwhudson | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/270681/ | 06:14 |
| jml | mwhudson, wonderful! :) | 06:16 |
| mwhudson | jml: thanks | 06:16 |
| jml | mwhudson, could you please add a docstring to make()? | 06:16 |
| mwhudson | jml: i should probably do a read through the diff adding/editing docstrings | 06:17 |
| mwhudson | jml: so sure | 06:17 |
| jml | mwhudson, sweet. | 06:17 |
| jml | mwhudson, btw, I have a note here to talk to you about pycon talk ideas | 06:27 |
| mwhudson | jml: ok | 06:27 |
| jml | mwhudson, but I don't really have that kind of energy right now. | 06:28 |
| mwhudson | jml: heh, me neither | 06:28 |
| mwhudson | jml: tomorrow, when the caffeine is still fresh in our veins? | 06:28 |
| jml | mwhudson, sounds good :) | 06:29 |
| mwhudson | jml: some docstrings to read: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/270690/ | 06:43 |
| jml | mwhudson, 'demo_networks' is a list of network strings (e.g. "192.168.1.0/24") and IP addresses | 06:46 |
| jml | mwhudson, it specifies who is allowed to connect to the server | 06:46 |
| jml | mwhudson, but also, if it's set at all, then tests aren't run and some other stuff is enabled/disabled. | 06:47 |
| mwhudson | jml: i.e. "represents a bunch of crack" | 06:47 |
| mwhudson | jml: i think i'd almost write "???" in the docstrings than explain the current truth | 06:48 |
| mwhudson | (and fix the current truth tomorrow) | 06:48 |
| jml | mwhudson, fair enough. :) | 06:48 |
| jml | mwhudson, just like _1984_! | 06:48 |
| jml | mwhudson, it would be nice to have a little more explanation as to what make() does (or rather, how it's different from the constructor) | 06:49 |
| * jml looks over the code to make a suggestion. | 06:50 | |
| mwhudson | perhaps there isn't much difference | 06:50 |
| jml | hmm, yeah. | 06:51 |
| jml | mwhudson, I'm happy to leave the current docstring as is. | 06:51 |
| jml | maybe future code iterations will make the distinction clearer. | 06:51 |
| jml | mwhudson, r=jml | 06:51 |
| mwhudson | jml: awesome, thanks | 06:52 |
| jml | mwhudson, no, thank you. | 06:52 |
| === beuno-on-vacatio is now known as beuni | ||
| === beuni is now known as beuno | ||
| * mwhudson is done for the day | 07:10 | |
| jml | mwhudson, g'night. | 07:12 |
| beuno | good morning all | 07:46 |
| beuno | noodles775! | 07:46 |
| noodles775 | Hi beuno ! | 07:46 |
| beuno | noodles775, how are things? | 07:47 |
| noodles775 | beuno: ok - we just landed the the ppa-index re-design at the end of last week... still some tweaks to be done, but was good to get it landed. How are you going? | 07:48 |
| beuno | noodles775, I saw you guys won the race ;) | 07:48 |
| beuno | noodles775, things are great. Had a fantastic vacation | 07:48 |
| beuno | very relaxing | 07:48 |
| noodles775 | beuno: Great to hear :) I hope it didn't take too long to get to the relaxed state :) | 07:49 |
| beuno | noodles775, it took a day or two to really disconnect, but after that it was a smooth ride | 07:49 |
| noodles775 | Great! | 07:49 |
| jml | so, is soyuz now turning its attention to blueprints templates? | 07:50 |
| beuno | noodles775, did you manage to get your hand on the padding issues? | 07:50 |
| noodles775 | jml: we're planning to do blueprint templates along with other high-priority bugs. | 07:50 |
| jml | noodles775, awesome :) | 07:50 |
| noodles775 | beuno: nope - I had to focus on the ppa-index last week. I did do a few flybys that I needed for the ppa-index, but I'll look for the general padding bugs now (or do you have a list?) | 07:51 |
| beuno | noodles775, I don't have a list of bugs, not sure if they where filed | 07:52 |
| * beuno looks through bugs | 07:52 | |
| noodles775 | beuno: I know jtv filed one general one, but am not aware of others. | 07:53 |
| beuno | noodles775, the main things I see is the breadcrumbs need more bottom padding, and the footer needs top padding | 07:54 |
| beuno | I'll play around with it and see if I can provide a branch (or a patch, my rf is busted) | 07:54 |
| noodles775 | beuno: I did already add more padding to the bottom of breadcrumbs (well, margin actually) - but perhaps not enough? | 07:55 |
| * beuno ponders | 07:56 | |
| beuno | noodles775, https://edge.launchpad.net/~openshot.developers/+archive/ppa | 07:57 |
| noodles775 | beuno: that's an exception - the editable description has negative margin :/ | 07:58 |
| beuno | I think it's a combination of the description text being small, and having an icon the the breadcrumbs | 07:58 |
| noodles775 | Hmm... although it's the same as https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/palmer | 07:58 |
| beuno | I'm starting to think we don't want icons in the breadcrumbs | 07:59 |
| beuno | and maybe, just maybe, need to be a smaller font | 07:59 |
| noodles775 | Yeah, I'd agree there too - icons seem to make the breadcrumbs a bit too noisy... | 07:59 |
| beuno | I will file a bug | 08:00 |
| beuno | I need to get back on track with my karma | 08:00 |
| noodles775 | heh | 08:00 |
| beuno | noodles775, this page's header section is missing... something: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas | 08:00 |
| noodles775 | beuno: yes, it might be related to barry's landing which modified the way headings work - see the email. We all need to go through and re-adjust things a bit. | 08:01 |
| beuno | noodles775, known issue then, great | 08:01 |
| beuno | anyone know what could be causing this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/270724/ | 08:08 |
| jml | beuno, no, I don't. how do you get it? | 08:08 |
| beuno | jml, "make" | 08:09 |
| beuno | (I'm on karmic) | 08:09 |
| jml | beuno, so am I. | 08:10 |
| jml | beuno, are you up to date with dependencies, sourcecode and download-cache? | 08:10 |
| beuno | jml, yes, running rf-get | 08:11 |
| jml | beuno, and launchpad-developer-dependencies is up to date? | 08:12 |
| beuno | jml, I'll look, but what does that have to do with it? | 08:16 |
| beuno | ah, you mean the package | 08:17 |
| beuno | yes | 08:17 |
| beuno | actually... | 08:17 |
| beuno | no | 08:17 |
| beuno | argh | 08:17 |
| beuno | updates are fun | 08:17 |
| beuno | installing 290mb of deps (again?) | 08:18 |
| beuno | thanks | 08:18 |
| jml | beuno, np | 08:18 |
| jml | beuno, what does 'bzr revno sourcecode/pygpgme' say? | 08:23 |
| * beuno checks | 08:24 | |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:24 |
| beuno | jml, 48 | 08:25 |
| al-maisan | moin abel | 08:25 |
| jml | beuno, and no local changes? (cd sourcecode/pygpgme; bzr st) | 08:25 |
| beuno | jml, none | 08:26 |
| jml | beuno, thanks. | 08:26 |
| jml | beuno, let me know if it doesn't work after the upgrade -- it does work for me, even after a make clean. | 08:26 |
| beuno | jml, it's installing them already (560kb/sec!), I'll know in a minute | 08:27 |
| mwhudson | er, that's a strange error | 08:32 |
| beuno | jml, that fixed it | 08:34 |
| jml | beuno, cool. | 08:35 |
| beuno | jml, thank you | 08:35 |
| mwhudson | maxb: hi | 08:36 |
| mwhudson | maxb: lp:~maxb/launchpad/py2.5-unittest-compatibility failed tests | 08:36 |
| mwhudson | lp.codehosting.puller.tests.test_scheduler fails to import | 08:37 |
| beuno | jml, FYI, the ohloh thing got kicked off again when I used devel instead of db-devel. *no* idea why that worked and the other didn't | 08:44 |
| beuno | s/db-devel/db-stable | 08:45 |
| beuno | maybe someone needs some reconciling? | 08:45 |
| jml | beuno, I was about to suggest that. | 08:45 |
| jml | beuno, looks like it'll still be a week or so before the listing is processed. | 08:46 |
| beuno | jml, yeah, I've been following it fairly closely | 08:46 |
| beuno | my guess is weeks | 08:46 |
| beuno | it seems to be doing a few thousand commits per day | 08:46 |
| beuno | no idea why it goes through all the commits to count number of lines | 08:47 |
| beuno | but maybe they do more than that | 08:47 |
| jml | well, they are charting number of lines over time | 08:47 |
| jml | my hunch is that if they asked the bazaar ML, they'd be able to make the whole thing a lot faster. | 08:48 |
| didrocks | jml: hey o/ | 08:48 |
| jml | didrocks, hello :) | 08:48 |
| didrocks | jml: enjoying Australia? :) | 08:48 |
| jml | didrocks, yes :) | 08:49 |
| wgrant | He's abandoning us soon :( | 08:49 |
| * thumper waves at beuno | 08:49 | |
| beuno | thumper! | 08:50 |
| beuno | hi | 08:50 |
| didrocks | jml: I tried to setup launchpad on Friday evening and run into troubles. Apparently, nobody was there to have a clue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/269395/ (on up to date jaunty and karmic box). I'm a little bit stuck :) | 08:50 |
| beuno | thumper, how are things? | 08:50 |
| wgrant | didrocks: What does 'rocketfuel-get' say? | 08:51 |
| thumper | beuno: somewhat frantic | 08:51 |
| beuno | thumper, 3.0 blues? | 08:51 |
| thumper | beuno: kinda | 08:52 |
| didrocks | wgrant: unfortunately, I'm at work now and I don't have an available box. I can try to launch this this evening | 08:52 |
| thumper | beuno: I'm going to tackle the title and breadcrumb issues for branch pages this week | 08:52 |
| beuno | thumper, cool, I was noticing that headings are wonky now. How's the big redesigns going? | 08:53 |
| wgrant | beuno: The root context header looks very boring now. Who stole all the colours? | 08:53 |
| thumper | beuno: too slowly | 08:54 |
| jml | didrocks, I think wgrant is on the right track, fwiw. | 08:54 |
| beuno | thumper, :/ | 08:54 |
| jml | didrocks, give rocketfuel-get a go when you get home | 08:54 |
| beuno | wgrant, do you think people really link them to applications? | 08:55 |
| beuno | my experience is no | 08:55 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: I think the h1 heading above the breadcrumbs is the color-coded one? | 08:55 |
| wgrant | beuno: Perhaps not, but they made it a bit less bland. | 08:55 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I meant the app tabs, actually. | 08:55 |
| noodles775 | Ah. | 08:56 |
| wgrant | Is there a bug about locationless <h1>s blocking access to the logout control? | 08:56 |
| maxb | mwhudson: oh, weird :-(. I'll poke at it at my lunchtime and see what I can do | 08:57 |
| beuno | wgrant, the original mockups had the colors, but the agreement was the the colors really don't mean anything | 08:58 |
| didrocks | jml, wgrant: ok, thanks, I'll keep you posted :) | 08:58 |
| beuno | so it was just noise | 08:58 |
| beuno | intellectronica, around yet? | 08:58 |
| wgrant | beuno: Pretty noise. | 08:58 |
| mwhudson | maxb: i forwarded you the mail | 09:01 |
| intellectronica | hi beuno | 09:02 |
| beuno | intellectronica, hi! how's it going? | 09:02 |
| intellectronica | beuno: good good. had a nice holiday? | 09:03 |
| beuno | intellectronica, best ever | 09:03 |
| intellectronica | lovely | 09:04 |
| mwhudson | maxb: your other branch passed though, the --no-conf one | 09:04 |
| mwhudson | i guess that means my new image works | 09:04 |
| mwhudson | for me at least | 09:04 |
| maxb | Well if that one failed, I would have been really annoyed :-) | 09:04 |
| mwhudson | anyone here have a branch they want to ec2test? | 09:04 |
| beuno | intellectronica, I see the bugtask table is now fully ajaxified. Any reason why it can still be expanded? | 09:05 |
| intellectronica | beuno: it's still the only way to add a comment and change metadata in one action. until we fix it so that we collapse them after the fact, it seems people still want to be able to do that | 09:07 |
| mwhudson | nm | 09:07 |
| noodles775 | mwhudson: I will in a while (40mins maybe), if you want to email me new instructions to try. | 09:08 |
| beuno | intellectronica, interesting... will that feature make it to 3.0? | 09:09 |
| intellectronica | beuno: probably not | 09:10 |
| * beuno hmmms | 09:11 | |
| mrevell | Morning | 09:30 |
| deryck | Morning, all. | 10:57 |
| beuno | hi deryck | 10:58 |
| beuno | hi mrevell | 10:58 |
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| mrevell | hey beuno | 11:18 |
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| * beuno waves at barry | 13:14 | |
| * barry waves at beuno! | 13:18 | |
| barry | beuno: how do like them new page titles? :) | 13:18 |
| beuno | barry, they are a dream come true. Literally. | 13:20 |
| barry | beuno: phew! that was a helluva branch. you might imagine with us printing browser.title everywhere, like every pagetest broke ;) | 13:21 |
| beuno | barry, ay, that sounds painful | 13:21 |
| beuno | thanks for getting it in, it was a critical change for 3.0 | 13:21 |
| barry | beuno: only until 0330 saturday morning :) | 13:22 |
| barry | beuno: no worries man, it was actually fun! | 13:22 |
| danilos | maxb, btw, thanks for all the work in getting LP to run on karmic: I just got a new laptop over the weekend and I ran into no problems at all (I've seen ~12 test failures in full 'make check', but that might be related to python-svn stuff, since they were all in codehosting; didn't investigate further) | 13:29 |
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| maxb | danilos: Nice :-). Try adding ppa:maxb/launchpad and upgrading | 13:30 |
| maxb | There are updated packages there pending syncing to the launchpad ppa | 13:31 |
| danilos | maxb, yeah, seen the email on the list, I'll try that later (got a few urgent things to fix first :) | 13:32 |
| jtv | abentley, you available for a pre-imp call? | 13:39 |
| abentley | jtv: I'd rather wait 20 minutes until I'm on duty. | 13:41 |
| jtv | abentley: no worries | 13:41 |
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| beuno | sinzui, when you awaken, could you let me know if you're going to work on bug 429353? | 13:54 |
| mup | Bug #429353: Move edge message to the footer, allow people to stop redirection <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/429353> | 13:54 |
| sinzui | beuno: It is at the bottom of my list | 13:55 |
| sinzui | beuno: I still have 38 pages to land in 4 days | 13:55 |
| * sinzui 15 ready for review | 13:55 | |
| beuno | sinzui, so you're saying that noodles775, that did a fantastic job in soyuz, should do it? :) | 13:55 |
| beuno | hi, btw | 13:55 |
| bigjools | hands off my staff! | 13:56 |
| sinzui | beuno: anyone who is not on my team | 13:56 |
| beuno | bigjools, it should be a 10 minute branch | 13:56 |
| beuno | 15 tops | 13:56 |
| bigjools | lol | 13:56 |
| bigjools | last time you said that it took him 4 days ;) | 13:56 |
| sinzui | soyuz is done | 13:56 |
| sinzui | code has 3 pages to land + 3 answers pages | 13:56 |
| sinzui | bugs has 7 pages | 13:57 |
| * beuno stares at gary_poster | 13:57 | |
| bigjools | he can potentially do it tomorrow or day after, if someone fixes bug 423105 :) | 13:58 |
| mup | Bug #423105: Duplicate download icons in many places <Launchpad itself:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/423105> | 13:58 |
| beuno | bigjools, I will fix that bug | 13:58 |
| bigjools | ah good man | 13:58 |
| beuno | if noodles775 fixes 429353 | 13:59 |
| beuno | :) | 13:59 |
| gary_poster | beuno, uh? | 13:59 |
| gary_poster | and hi :-) | 13:59 |
| beuno | gary_poster, I was about to nag you about a foundations bug, but I think I've managed to convince bigjools | 13:59 |
| gary_poster | heh, cool :-) | 13:59 |
| beuno | I think he's talking to Michael in the background | 13:59 |
| beuno | trying to convince him that this time it won't be so bad :) | 14:00 |
| bigjools | beuno owes me so many favours! | 14:00 |
| beuno | he does | 14:01 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 14:01 |
| bigjools | beuno: so seriously, there's no such thing as a ten minute branch, but that looks like a couple of hours work so it's fine | 14:02 |
| beuno | bigjools, yeah, I know. I'm not sure how much work it is, tbh | 14:03 |
| beuno | it involves config files, among other things I think | 14:03 |
| beuno | I tried to do it myself, but once I spend 30 minutes going around in circles, I give up and file a bug | 14:03 |
| bigjools | beuno: can you do a quick investigation on it then? it would be helpful to add that info to the bug | 14:03 |
| bigjools | ok perhaps sinzui then | 14:04 |
| beuno | bigjools, any competent lp developer should be able to find all the moving parts quickly | 14:04 |
| beuno | I'm not very familiar with the configs aspect of it | 14:04 |
| noodles775 | beuno, bigjools | 14:04 |
| noodles775 | beuno, bigjools: that should be fine... I had to play/test config stuff to get the site_message updated in the previous branch. | 14:05 |
| beuno | match made in heaven | 14:05 |
| beuno | I'm fixing the download icon bug right now | 14:05 |
| noodles775 | beuno, bigjools: although I'm not sure about the redirection issue - did you look into that beuno? | 14:05 |
| beuno | noodles775, it's a simple javascript call | 14:06 |
| bigjools | moving the section to the bottom will be easy | 14:06 |
| noodles775 | Great. | 14:06 |
| beuno | it's available on the home page to see it working | 14:06 |
| bigjools | then add the stuff from the front page I guess | 14:06 |
| noodles775 | bigjools: yeah, it's easy now because it's part of the template - rather than a string in the method of IHierarchy :) | 14:07 |
| bigjools | noodles775: I wonder who fixed that! | 14:07 |
| BjornT | barry: i think you mentioned that running a specific test layer (e.g. MailmanLayer) isn't possible any more. did you file a bug for it? | 14:08 |
| maxb | Whilst you're at it, -s seems to be being ignored too | 14:14 |
| BjornT | maxb: yes, it's a similar issue. the problem is that bin/test specifies some default options, that you can't remove | 14:18 |
| barry | BjornT: not yet | 14:18 |
| barry | BjornT: but i will | 14:18 |
| BjornT | barry: cool. do you intend to fix it as well? :) i know what the problem is (see my comment above) | 14:19 |
| barry | BjornT: if you comment on the bug, i'll fix it :) | 14:20 |
| gary_poster | barry: hiya. I rearranged some things and lost my bookmarks to the old, old LP wiki. I was going to try to make at least a tiny bit of progress on migrating the reviewer wiki bits. What is the url of the ancient LP wiki again, do you remember? | 14:20 |
| BjornT | barry: perfect :) | 14:21 |
| barry | gary_poster: which one was launchpad.canonical.com? :) | 14:22 |
| gary_poster | barry: the one I wanted! Thanks :-) | 14:22 |
| barry | phew! :) | 14:23 |
| barry | BjornT: bug 429375 feel free to assign it to me after commenting | 14:25 |
| mup | Bug #429375: bin/test --layer=MailmanLayer no longer works <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/429375> | 14:25 |
| BjornT | barry: done | 14:30 |
| gary_poster | barry: do you have access to this page? https://launchpad.canonical.com/TipsForReviewers . I get "You are not allowed to view this page" | 14:34 |
| barry | BjornT: thanks | 14:35 |
| barry | gary_poster: looking... | 14:35 |
| barry | gary_poster: yes, i can view the page | 14:38 |
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| gary_poster | barry: mm. :-/ | 14:45 |
| gary_poster | barry: I mean...oh, great, so you can do it! ;-) ...maybe I can ask mrevell or kfogel for view access. | 14:46 |
| gary_poster | mrevell, kfogel: I want to transfer content from https://launchpad.canonical.com/TipsForReviewers (and other related pages) to dev.launchpad.net | 14:46 |
| barry | gary_poster: hahahaha! | 14:46 |
| mrevell | hi gary_poster | 14:47 |
| gary_poster | mrevell: hi! I get "You are not allowed to view this page." | 14:47 |
| mrevell | gary_poster: Hmm. Odd. I only get that message when I'm not logged into the wiki. | 14:47 |
| mrevell | gary_poster: I'm pretty sure you should have access but I'll happily move those pages over for you now. | 14:48 |
| gary_poster | mrevell: oh, wow, thank you. I am definitely logged in via openid (it shows my name) | 14:48 |
| gary_poster | barry: look at mrevell's generous offer. Can you maybe let him know what pages ought to be transferred? | 14:49 |
| mrevell | gary_poster: Heh, I don't know what the cause would be, then, as I'm sure we opened the wiki up | 14:49 |
| mrevell | barry: Yeah, just let me know which pages you wanna move | 14:49 |
| gary_poster | barry, then you and I can see what, if anything, needs to be cleaned up. | 14:49 |
| gary_poster | mrevell: thank you again! | 14:50 |
| mrevell | np my pleasure :) | 14:50 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 14:50 |
| barry | gary_poster, mrevell awesome, thanks. mrevell it might be a few minutes. i need to pop my stack of a few things first | 14:50 |
| gary_poster | barry: sorry to dump it on you :-( | 14:50 |
| mrevell | cool | 14:50 |
| barry | gary_poster: no worries! | 14:51 |
| barry | rockstar: bug 427101 might help you | 15:01 |
| mup | Bug #427101: [Karmic] Xorg crash after login. Returns to gdm which then hangs. <crash> <xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu):Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/427101> | 15:01 |
| flacoste | beuno: around to look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/429247 ? | 15:37 |
| mup | Bug #429247: Locationless <h1>s block login/out widgets <story-ui-3> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/429247> | 15:37 |
| beuno | flacoste, sure | 15:39 |
| henninge | beuno: ping | 15:44 |
| beuno | henninge, hi | 15:45 |
| henninge | Hi, beuno! | 15:45 |
| henninge | Can you tell me something about https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+bug/418610 ? | 15:45 |
| mup | Bug #418610: New translate page needs new icons <Launchpad Translations:New for beuno> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/418610> | 15:45 |
| henninge | ;-) | 15:46 |
| beuno | henninge, I cannot | 15:46 |
| beuno | but | 15:47 |
| beuno | talk to iainfarrell | 15:47 |
| beuno | on #design | 15:47 |
| beuno | he's the new project manager | 15:47 |
| beuno | and can get you resources | 15:47 |
| henninge | beuno: ah, cool | 15:47 |
| henninge | thanks, beuno | 15:47 |
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| bac | barry, sinzui: i'm starting on team-map.pt, team-members.pt, and team-mugshots.pt -- unless there are objections | 16:39 |
| sinzui | take them | 16:40 |
| didrocks | wgrant: here what I get with rocketfuel-get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271002/ | 16:42 |
| bac | sinzui: filed as bug 429455 for your tracking pleasure | 16:46 |
| mup | Bug #429455: Update team map, membership, and mugshot pages to UI 3.0 <Launchpad Registry:In Progress by bac> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/429455> | 16:46 |
| barry | bac: thanks. i'm going to get some lunch and then will be back to take some conversions | 16:49 |
| bac | barry: good idea. i think i'll join you. | 16:50 |
| barry | bac: come on over! i've got extras. | 16:50 |
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| bac | barry: nah, i'm going uptown for the world's best BLT | 16:51 |
| * barry drools: mmmmm bacon | 16:51 | |
| bac | may take jojo | 16:51 |
| bac | he will drool | 16:51 |
| barry | :) | 16:51 |
| sinzui | flacoste: beuno: geser helped diagnose a unit issue were we defined widths in percentages, but margins in ems. I landed that fix. we may have something similar in the CSS. The rule in question relates to our effort to reset the old style sheet | 16:52 |
| flacoste | sinzui: we can kill the old style sheet on friday i guess? | 16:52 |
| beuno | flacoste, maybe. The bug index is still unconverted | 16:53 |
| beuno | so it maybe be a bit of a disaster | 16:53 |
| sinzui | flacoste: I hope so. then kill pagetitles.py on 3.0 +1 day | 16:53 |
| beuno | I don't really know | 16:53 |
| sinzui | beuno: person is unconverted. I took the page from salgado on Friday, then handed it back to him. | 16:54 |
| flacoste | beuno: the bug index will be converted, don't worry, the bugs team are doing great work | 16:54 |
| flacoste | beuno: and so is the person page, registry is also doing great work! | 16:54 |
| flacoste | in fact, the whole team is pushing on this, so it will be delivered | 16:54 |
| flacoste | it's amazing | 16:55 |
| beuno | flacoste, aiight. I just want to make sure that we don't end up leaving people with unsable parts of LP for a few days | 16:55 |
| beuno | MPs and branch pages also need updatin' | 16:55 |
| beuno | I'm super keen on killing it as well | 16:55 |
| sinzui | beuno: to be very clear, we are going to remove all the ids that we are reseting. We can merge the wanted style rules after we are sure the pages display | 16:56 |
| beuno | sinzui, fair enough | 16:57 |
| beuno | I'm looking forward to it | 16:57 |
| allenap | maxb: Hi. Have I caused you more work with the py25-unittest branch by suggesting a property? Does the descriptor you had originally break too? | 17:00 |
| maxb | allenap: The non-data descriptor fails to break when it probably should :-) | 17:08 |
| allenap | maxb: Oh wow. Any ideas of how to work around it? | 17:11 |
| maxb | A detailed reading of all the other TestCase classes that LP pulls in at varying points and adapting the fix appropriately | 17:18 |
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| mrevell | See you tomorrow guys | 18:00 |
| ppalmers | hi all, I'm having some trouble with using the rocketfuel-setup script to fetch the launchpad dev tree as specfified in https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting | 18:15 |
| ppalmers | I'm using the rocketfuel-setup script as described, but it fails with an import error on _pythonpath.py | 18:16 |
| ppalmers | this is on 9.04 btw | 18:16 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, have done the link-external-sourcecode thing? | 18:18 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: is that before or after the rocketfuel-setup? | 18:18 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: cause that on its own fails | 18:18 |
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| rockstar | ppalmers, well, after you branch, you need to link the sourcecode directory. | 18:19 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: ok, let me just try this | 18:20 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, I have a script that creates a new branch from devel (or db-devel), links the source-code dirs, and then runs `make build` | 18:20 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: always interested... | 18:20 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, it's just three commands: the branch command, the link command, the make build. I just got tired of typing them all manually. | 18:21 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: well, I don't really grok the thing yet... | 18:22 |
| sinzui | geser: ping | 18:22 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: I have a ~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel | 18:22 |
| geser | pong | 18:22 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, you should also have ~/launchpad/lp-sourcecode/sourcecode | 18:23 |
| sinzui | geser: cprov is starting on bug 416412. Is it still valid after the CSS right-margin change | 18:23 |
| mup | Bug #416412: +build missing a line break between the "title" and the "data" part <trivial> <ui> <Soyuz:Triaged by cprov> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/416412> | 18:23 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: I do | 18:23 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, so go into the devel folder and do `utilities/link-external-sourcecode ../../lp-sourcecode` | 18:23 |
| geser | sinzui: I can't reproduce it anymore, so I'd say it's fixed | 18:24 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: would that be s/lp-sourcecode/lp-sourcedeps/ ? | 18:24 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, ah, yes. | 18:25 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: done | 18:25 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, I don't set up my dirs like that, so I hafta fudge it. | 18:25 |
| sinzui | geser: thanks. I will set cprov onto one of my bugs | 18:25 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, try `make build` now. | 18:25 |
| cprov | geser: thanks | 18:26 |
| gary_poster | flacoste, maxb: Hi. I have a proposed fix for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zope3/+bug/413335 . I asked mgedmin to review, who was involved in the Zope 3 package initially. | 18:27 |
| gary_poster | He thinks it looks good, but he said he was trusting me on the timelines. :-) Are either of you available for a review? I'd like to have someone from LP look at it too. | 18:27 |
| mup | Bug #413335: Figure out what to do about zope.sendmail incompatibility with Python >= 2.5.1 <python-upgrade> <Launchpad Foundations:Triaged> <Zope 3:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/413335> | 18:27 |
| gary_poster | Right now I just have a diff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271076/ | 18:27 |
| gary_poster | checking if zope.sendmail is in LP... | 18:27 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: "Unknown entry URL:" warnings are normal? | 18:28 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, yeah. | 18:29 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: ok, in that case this succeeded | 18:29 |
| rockstar | ppalmers, I assume you'll also need to `make schema` to set up the database, and then you can just do `make run` and you'll have a dev server up. | 18:29 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: ok | 18:30 |
| gary_poster | The package is in LP, but no code. I could put in a branch of trunk and then apply my diff if that were really desired. | 18:30 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: thx | 18:30 |
| maxb | mm, that looks nifty | 18:30 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: the 'make build' was the magic step I didn't know of | 18:30 |
| maxb | gary_poster: I can't spot an holes in that at first glance :-) | 18:32 |
| maxb | *any | 18:32 |
| gary_poster | maxb: ok. :-) thank you for looking. Is there some action I can try in LP to see if this solves the problem? I haven't tried to duplicate except in your test program actually. I expect that if I have not solved it, then when I make run I then cannot do an interrupt, but have to kill the process? | 18:34 |
| maxb | If Ctrl-C shuts down "make run" cleanly, you've solved the problem | 18:34 |
| gary_poster | maxb: ok cool. thanks! | 18:35 |
| maxb | oh, but check that it hasn't left any librarians behind silently too | 18:35 |
| gary_poster | ok | 18:35 |
| ppalmers | rockstar: thx, it's up and running | 18:36 |
| bac | sinzui: i'm going to include wgrant's patch for bug 403561 in my mugshot conversion unless you object. it makes life much easier when dealing with mugshots. | 18:51 |
| mup | Bug #403561: Mugshot retrieval fails on development launchpad <librarian> <Launchpad Registry:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/403561> | 18:51 |
| sinzui | bac: thanks... | 18:52 |
| bac | sinzui: big thanks to wgrant | 18:52 |
| sinzui | bac: I was going to suggest that then thought I should not change the scope | 18:52 |
| bac | sinzui: changing scope is ok by me when it makes my life easier... | 18:52 |
| sinzui | bac: yes, that is why I did the series and milestone pages. I added info that make my job easier | 18:53 |
| sinzui | bac: have you seen https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+milestone/3.0 today? | 18:54 |
| bac | sinzui: hadn't yet. nice! | 18:55 |
| sinzui | The summary of you and everyone else makes that page a little easier to read...but I need to fix the wrapping on names | 18:56 |
| flacoste | gary_poster: lookin | 18:58 |
| gary_poster | flacoste: thank you | 18:58 |
| flacoste | gary_poster: looks good, btw, the reason that the process doesn't exits is not that the thread status is ignored, it's simply that the atexit handler is stopped waiting for the lock | 19:04 |
| flacoste | gary_poster: once you release it, it moves on and will exit | 19:04 |
| gary_poster | flacoste: no | 19:04 |
| gary_poster | flacoste: not in my experiments | 19:04 |
| gary_poster | If I take out the flag it will run forever, even though it was a daemon, if the atexit waited for the lock | 19:05 |
| gary_poster | Tested with Py 2.5.2 | 19:05 |
| gary_poster | 2.5.4 I mean | 19:05 |
| gary_poster | flacoste: if that were not the case I could have removed the _stopped flag entirely | 19:06 |
| gary_poster | and simply relied on the daemon behavior | 19:06 |
| barry | bac, sinzui what templates are you working on, or more importantly which ones can i do now? | 19:22 |
| bac | team-map, team-mugshot, team-subscribers | 19:23 |
| * sinzui looks at http://people.canonical.com/~beuno/conversions.html | 19:23 | |
| barry | maybe i should do the team-mailinglist ones? | 19:24 |
| sinzui | barry: There are 3 left for you I think: team-invitations.pt, teammembership-index.pt, teammembership-invitation.pt | 19:24 |
| sinzui | barry: I think bac is landing the membership ones | 19:24 |
| barry | sinzui: um. do you mean bac is doing the teammembers-*.pt's? | 19:25 |
| bac | i have these in ec2: teammembership-invitation.pt | 19:25 |
| bac | team-mailinglist-moderate.pt | 19:25 |
| bac | team-mailinglist-subscribers.pt, barry | 19:25 |
| sinzui | barry: sorry, no, there is already a bug for the mailing list ones. bac is landing it | 19:26 |
| barry | bac, sinzui gotcha | 19:26 |
| barry | sinzui: i'll do the three you just gave me | 19:26 |
| sinzui | so I think we will be done with team tomorrow morngin | 19:26 |
| sinzui | only person will remain | 19:26 |
| rockstar | flacoste, launchpad-developer-dependencies and launchpad-dependencies appear to be terribly broken for hardy. | 19:38 |
| flacoste | rockstar: hmm, that's not too good | 19:40 |
| kiko-afk | hardy? | 19:41 |
| === kiko-afk is now known as kiko | ||
| rockstar | kiko, yes, hardy. | 19:41 |
| kiko | how much do we care? are our servers still hardy? | 19:42 |
| rockstar | kiko, yes. Plus, only recently did our stuff start working on Karmic, and I set up my chroot when it wasn't working at all on Jaunty. | 19:42 |
| rockstar | flacoste, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271120/ | 19:45 |
| sinzui | Sweet. The registry colour is now fashionable black | 20:12 |
| rockstar | flacoste, I also can't get l-d-d installed on Karmic. Looks like I'm missing python2.4-svn - I'm dead in the water 'til this gets fixed. | 20:22 |
| flacoste | rockstar: that's weird, others are reporting success on karmic | 20:22 |
| flacoste | python2.4-subversion is in our repo | 20:22 |
| rockstar | flacoste, python2.4-svn is a different package. I see pysvn in there (which python2.4-svn is from) but I'm still getting errors installing. | 20:23 |
| flacoste | rockstar: what's the trouble with it? | 20:25 |
| rockstar | flacoste, I'm tracking down the actual issue now. It's claiming python2.4-svn can't be installed, but I just installed it. One sec. | 20:26 |
| rockstar | flacoste, it's still claiming that it can't install python2.4-svn even though I just installed it. I have no idea what's going on. | 20:27 |
| rockstar | This is a fresh install, with just main restricted universe and multiverse enabled. | 20:28 |
| rockstar | flacoste, it looks like it's selecting python-svn instead of python2.4-svn when installing. Something's wrong with python2.4-svn apparently. | 20:30 |
| rockstar | flacoste, did you need to pin anything? | 20:30 |
| flacoste | i'm not on karmic | 20:30 |
| flacoste | but there is no python2.4-svn package | 20:30 |
| flacoste | only a python-svn | 20:31 |
| flacoste | which should provide python2.4-svn | 20:31 |
| maxb | hello | 20:31 |
| flacoste | rockstar, maxb is on karmic | 20:31 |
| flacoste | as is jml | 20:31 |
| rockstar | flacoste, than l-d shouldn't be looking for python2.4-svn | 20:31 |
| flacoste | well, yes, it should | 20:31 |
| maxb | I suspect that the issue is that karmic's version of python-svn is higher that launchpad/ppa's | 20:31 |
| flacoste | because python2.4 is only there if the package was built properly | 20:31 |
| maxb | flacoste: You have a sync request outstanding from me to fix that :-) | 20:32 |
| flacoste | that's possible | 20:32 |
| flacoste | really! | 20:32 |
| flacoste | ok | 20:32 |
| rockstar | flacoste, please sync it, hurry, quickly, now, kthxbai. | 20:32 |
| maxb | rockstar: ppa:maxb/launchpad in the meantime | 20:32 |
| flacoste | maxb: does pycxx needs to be synced as well? | 20:32 |
| flacoste | rockstar: i'm on it | 20:33 |
| rockstar | flacoste, thanks! | 20:33 |
| maxb | flacoste: It's purely a build-dep, but for completeness (and being able to rebuild things) sake, it should be | 20:33 |
| flacoste | maxb: ok, syncing now | 20:33 |
| flacoste | rockstar: copied, will be published on the next publisher run | 20:33 |
| rockstar | flacoste, great, thanks. | 20:34 |
| * maxb wonders what the deal is with hardy | 20:35 | |
| rockstar | maxb, no one uses it but me, apparently. :/ | 20:35 |
| rockstar | Which seems kinda scary, since we deploy to hardy. | 20:35 |
| maxb | heh | 20:35 |
| * maxb tries an apt-get install l-d-d in a cowbuilder chroot | 20:35 | |
| flacoste | rockstar: IS doesn't use our repository | 20:36 |
| flacoste | rockstar: they deploy from theirs | 20:36 |
| flacoste | rockstar: so i gues they are using older versions which were fine | 20:36 |
| rockstar | flacoste, yeah, I was fine too, until I installed Karmic from scratch and needed to re-create my chroot. | 20:38 |
| * rockstar can has karmic dev environment | 20:39 | |
| maxb | apt-get seems happy to install l-d-d in my hardy chroot | 20:40 |
| maxb | I'm not quite sure what to make of your pastebin | 20:41 |
| bac | sinzui: hey curtis i'm getting failures in trunk on xx-distroseries-index.txt and some others. could they be due to your branch that is playing now on buildbot? | 21:00 |
| sinzui | bac: possibly. | 21:01 |
| sinzui | I'll look | 21:01 |
| bac | sinzui: Tests with failures: | 21:01 |
| bac | lib/lp/registry/tests/../stories/distroseries/xx-distroseries-index.txt | 21:01 |
| bac | lib/lp/registry/tests/../stories/teammembership/xx-renew-subscription.txt | 21:01 |
| bac | lib/lp/registry/tests/../stories/product/xx-product-files.txt | 21:01 |
| bac | lib/lp/registry/tests/../stories/foaf/xx-team-membership.txt | 21:01 |
| bac | the last is probably mine | 21:01 |
| sinzui | bac I get the error. It is translations | 21:02 |
| sinzui | bac: I think jtv landed that change | 21:03 |
| bac | sinzui: his has already gone through buildbot clean. looks like maybe danilos | 21:03 |
| sinzui | bac: The test should be updated to show the output. I am switching tasks. If you agree, I can fix and submit it now. | 21:05 |
| bac | sinzui: ok. i've backed out r9434 and running the failed tests | 21:06 |
| bac | sinzui: but that is pointless as you are correct that the tests need updating | 21:06 |
| bac | i wonder why ec2 didn't submit my branch. argh. | 21:06 |
| * bac rushes to resubmit before your [testfix] | 21:07 | |
| sinzui | bac: I will submit in 15 minutes...I'll give you a heads up | 21:08 |
| bac | sinzui: fwiw all tests pass without rev 9434 | 21:08 |
| bac | sinzui: i just resubmitted mine. i'll keep an eye on it this time | 21:08 |
| sinzui | I see two other translations tests failed too. I will fix them if they are titles, otherwise I will cry | 21:09 |
| danilos | bac, sinzui: see the list, the testfix is in the pqm queue | 21:15 |
| danilos | sinzui, they are titles | 21:15 |
| sinzui | danilo. I just fixed the titles in my branch | 21:15 |
| sinzui | There are two h2 printing I fixed too | 21:16 |
| danilos | sinzui, that's all fixed in what's already in PQM (both with and without testfix tag) | 21:19 |
| sinzui | fab | 21:19 |
| danilos | sinzui, note that PQM is stopped for CP, I believe, so it will be a while before it gets in | 21:19 |
| bac | danilos: thanks. i should've thought to look at the mailing list first. | 21:19 |
| mwhudson | good morning | 21:37 |
| maxb | Would be nice if PQM stoppages got mentioned on the public list too | 21:37 |
| * mwhudson disappears for a bit, should be back for the call | 21:52 | |
| barry | sinzui: ping | 22:06 |
| sinzui | hi barry | 22:06 |
| barry | sinzui: hi. on the +invitations page, when you click on a team you get to a page at something like: https://launchpad.dev/~launchpad/+invitation/landscape-developers | 22:06 |
| barry | sinzui: this page's view is defined in a weird way, so it has no +hierarchy adapter | 22:07 |
| barry | sinzui: and thus no breadcrumbs | 22:07 |
| barry | sinzui: i spent 15 minutes trying to give it breadcrumbs and failed. thus i am going to make page_title = label | 22:07 |
| barry | sinzui: i can file a bug about this for later, or not worry about, or spend more time on it now. i know what i want to do <wink> | 22:08 |
| barry | sinzui: thoughts? | 22:08 |
| * sinzui looks | 22:08 | |
| thumper | morning | 22:10 |
| sinzui | barry: It does the oppose of do something. TeamMembership does not have Hierarchy because it is subordinate to a team. | 22:11 |
| sinzui | barry: file a bug | 22:11 |
| sinzui | barry: This has been broken for 4 years | 22:11 |
| barry | sinzui: exactly. we think alike | 22:11 |
| barry | sinzui: thanks | 22:12 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, I'm getting a test failure on lib/lp/registry/stories/distroseries/xx-distroseries-index.txt, was that your change? | 22:15 |
| sinzui | Ursinha: danilo-afk's he has already submitted a test fix. see scrollback and email | 22:16 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, I've merged his branch but this one still fails | 22:16 |
| thumper | mwhudson: ping | 22:16 |
| sinzui | Ursinha: Then he did not fix everyone | 22:17 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, I | 22:17 |
| sinzui | The title needs to change in the test. | 22:17 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, I'll change and submit then | 22:17 |
| sinzui | I reverted my that change when I learned danilo-afk has submitted a fix | 22:17 |
| Ursinha | sinzui, anyway.. IO | 22:30 |
| Ursinha | I've fixed that and submitted my branch again | 22:30 |
| mwhudson | thumper: pong | 22:33 |
| maxb | A minor style question: class Foo(object):, or depend on the __metaclass__ = type at the head of the file, and just write class Foo: ? | 22:42 |
| mwhudson | maxb: launchpad style is the latter | 22:45 |
| maxb | thanks | 22:45 |
| mwhudson | (which i dislike, but never mind...) | 22:45 |
| maxb | Rather ironically, my py2.5-unittest-compatibility branch has headed almost full circle, and is back using a descriptor | 22:46 |
| mwhudson | :) | 22:47 |
| mwhudson | things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler | 22:48 |
| wgrant | bac: Ah, great. | 23:01 |
| maxb | On this py2.5-unittest-compatibility thing - I *think* I have something sane that works now. I've set my machine churning on a full test run. Should I wait for my own testrun to succeed (hopefully) before I ask for another ec2test attempt? | 23:02 |
| maxb | gary_poster: Yay \o/ Now I can drop my lp-source-dependencies branch :-) | 23:11 |
| * rockstar goes on a short walk | 23:11 | |
| wgrant | cprov: Do you have a moment to talk about PPA dbgsyms? | 23:22 |
| gary_poster | maxb: :-) | 23:25 |
| === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk | ||
| jml | hello | 23:46 |
| cprov | wgrant: sure | 23:47 |
| mwhudson | jml: hello | 23:47 |
| wgrant | cprov: Great. | 23:47 |
| jml | mwhudson, hi. | 23:47 |
| cprov | wgrant: skype ? | 23:48 |
| wgrant | cprov: Ah, not a bad idea. Let's see if it works. | 23:48 |
| cprov | wgrant: cprovidelo | 23:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | deryck: hi how are you | 23:49 |
| mwhudson | ec2test suffers from a particular anti-pattern: default arguments for a function/class constructor which is called exactly once, specifying all arguments | 23:51 |
| wgrant | cprov: I've added you, and am currently hunting for my good headset. | 23:52 |
| cprov | wgrant: okay | 23:53 |
| wgrant | cprov: Looks like it's OK. I can't see you, though. | 23:56 |
| cprov | wgrant: what's your nick ? | 23:57 |
| wgrant | cprov: william.a.grant, sorry. | 23:58 |
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