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| lool | Daviey: Hey, what went wront with the netboot installer images? | 07:55 |
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| lool | Daviey: Oh in qemu | 07:55 |
| lool | Daviey: qemu doesn't support dove nor imx51 | 07:55 |
| lool | Daviey: We stopped doing versatile because we moved karmic to armv6 and versatile in the upstream kernel implies armv5 -- note that it can perfectly work with v6 or v7 though | 07:56 |
| Daviey | lool: So does that mean that it's currently note possible to virtualise arm in karmic? | 08:13 |
| lool | Daviey: It means that there's no prebuilt kernel to run in our qemu indeed | 08:17 |
| lool | Daviey: While it's an useful thing and we have a lot of people running qemu which hang around here, it's not a requirement; you could ask for such a flavour to the kernel team, I personally think it would be useful | 08:20 |
| lool | I didnt because I've felt I needed them to focus on the flavours supporting our hardware first | 08:20 |
| ogra_ | Daviey, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/arm/qemu/vmlinuz-2.6.31-rc3versatile1-cortex-a8 might be of some help | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | note it's quite old, but enough to get a VM up | 09:20 |
| ogra_ | (the rootstock builder from /topic uses it to create rootfs'es and qemu images for arm) | 09:21 |
| Daviey | ogra_: thanks.. i'll give it a go. | 09:26 |
| ogra_ | note there are no modules for it or anything ... | 09:26 |
| Daviey | ogra_: incidently, the upgrade path cannot be canculated from jaunty to karmic. :( | 09:26 |
| * ogra_ has no time/resources to build and patch a fresh one | 09:27 | |
| Daviey | :( | 09:27 |
| ogra_ | in a jaunty qemu vm you mean ? | 09:27 |
| Daviey | yah | 09:27 |
| ogra_ | thats intentional, though i thought i added a proper error message | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | do a cat /proc/cpuinfo in your vm | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | karmic only supports v6 and v7 | 09:28 |
| Daviey | ogra_: do-release-upgrade craps out as it tries to remove ubuntu-minimal, but that is blacklisted and marked for non-removal | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | u-m should pop up an error message telling you that pre-v6 isnt supported | 09:29 |
| ogra_ | oh, not sure do-release-upgrade shows the same errors u-m does | 09:30 |
| Daviey | ogra_: just booting now. | 09:30 |
| Daviey | lool: Sorry for not replying, missed your response. I understand :) | 09:32 |
| Daviey | ogra_: Processor: ARM926EJ-S rev 5 (v5l) :( | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | right | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | my kernel fixes that | 09:33 |
| ogra_ | it has a patch lool developed to fake a cortex-a8 | 09:33 |
| Daviey | hmm, made qemu core dump :( | 09:35 |
| ogra_ | you indeed need the right -M | 09:37 |
| ogra_ | err | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | -cpu, not -M | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | -cpu cortex-a8 | 09:39 |
| ogra_ | and -M versatilepb | 09:39 |
| Daviey | yah, ogra_ you rock. :) | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | :) | 09:40 |
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| erikcorry | I finally got around to filing http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=41354 | 10:03 |
| ubot4 | gcc.gnu.org bug 41354 in c++ "g++: Inlining constructors puts wrong vtable in objects" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:03 |
| erikcorry | clever bot | 10:03 |
| rabeeh | j #openplug | 11:58 |
| mike^ | ogra, thanks to you I have omap3evm with ubuntu :) | 13:13 |
| ogra | :) | 13:13 |
| mike^ | it's somewhat slow on app startup, but even 3D works :) | 13:14 |
| mike^ | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_dhW-lh4q-sk/Sqli478fQGI/AAAAAAAAAYo/zHk7-iRgQ1k/s1600-h/ubuntu-greeter3-small.png | 13:14 |
| mike^ | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dhW-lh4q-sk/SqlivloG3fI/AAAAAAAAAYg/3-K5pHMwEa8/s1600-h/xfce2.png | 13:14 |
| mike^ | ogra, do you know by chance is anybody working on the DSP stuff for OMAP? | 13:16 |
| ogra | nobody from canonical at least | 13:16 |
| ogra | not sure if there are any community people | 13:17 |
| siji | hey mike^, still am struggling with the same issue | 13:17 |
| siji | checking GLES/egl.h usability... no | 13:18 |
| siji | checking GLES/egl.h presence... no | 13:18 |
| siji | checking for GLES/egl.h... no | 13:18 |
| siji | configure: error: Unable to locate required GLES headers | 13:18 |
| lool | ogra: I was thinking of something: libc-vfp was dropped but wont be removed on upgrades which mean people might run an out of date libc | 13:25 |
| lool | ogra: Would you be interested in an update-manager snippet to drop it on upgade? | 13:25 |
| ogra | another u-m hack ? | 13:25 |
| lool | *upgrade | 13:25 |
| lool | Yeah that's what I had in mind | 13:25 |
| lool | Would check with mvo what he things though | 13:25 |
| ogra | sure, why not | 13:25 |
| lool | ogra: I'll file that now while I think of it and assign it to you then; thanks | 13:25 |
| ogra | gar | 13:27 |
| * ogra messed up his bug | 13:27 | |
| lool | ogra: Actually thinking about it it's more of an eglibc bug, it should conflict/replace | 13:28 |
| ogra | yup | 13:29 |
| lool | ogra: there's an = dep on libc6 which is why it gets removed on upgrades | 13:30 |
| lool | I guess that's ok | 13:30 |
| ogra | god, pushing an ubiquity branch takes a century | 13:32 |
| lool | Yeah would need an upgrade | 13:33 |
| ogra | i thought its under ubuntu-core-dev but it isnt ... so i need to create a brandnew branch for merging | 13:34 |
| ogra | OO.o looks better this time ... didnt fail yet | 13:34 |
| lool | Well LP uses stacking for modern .bzr branches | 13:34 |
| ogra | ah | 13:34 |
| ogra | doesnt help me right now though :) | 13:34 |
| ogra | but my initramfs-tools install prob is solved | 13:34 |
| lool | Cool | 13:35 |
| lool | the unr and umr livefs breakages are awful just before A6 | 13:35 |
| mike^ | siji, native as well? | 13:40 |
| mike^ | siji, I haven't tried to cross-compile... and apparently won't for some time | 13:40 |
| ogra | lool, well, i didnt have armel livefses since a few days either | 13:40 |
| lool | ogra: Do they build now? | 13:44 |
| lool | ogra: I gave back eds over the WE as I saw it was blocking but didn't look since | 13:44 |
| ogra | e-indicator and e-couchdb were ftbfs as well | 13:45 |
| ogra | but they should be fine now | 13:45 |
| ogra | i'll trigger a testbuild for dove and imx51 | 13:45 |
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| ogra | lool, do you know if the dove installer bits are ready so far ? | 13:57 |
| * ogra thinks there is still something missing, but not sure | 13:57 | |
| tasslehoff | I'm trying to get my beagleboard to send 1680x1050 to my display (default it is 640x480). I followed the "Xorg omapfb Drivers"-section on http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu, but afterwards X wouldn't start. | 14:13 |
| siji | <tasslehoff>,bad luck | 14:15 |
| siji | :( | 14:15 |
| siji | have u updated the kernel | 14:16 |
| siji | ? | 14:16 |
| tasslehoff | siji: no, I have just created my own rootFS following the wiki, and started working/installing on top of that | 14:18 |
| siji | <tasslehoff>, you have to add some patches in the kernel | 14:20 |
| lool | ogra: NCommander said the boot.scr doesn't get generated; probaby a simple bug | 14:20 |
| siji | for getting SGX Video Acceleration | 14:20 |
| ogra | lool, but flash-kernel and friends are ready ? | 14:21 |
| lool | ogra: Well it's a bug in flash-kernel-installer.postinst | 14:22 |
| ogra | yeah | 14:22 |
| ogra | i meant the rest of the changes there | 14:23 |
| ogra | ubiquity surely needs changes too for the bootloader parts | 14:23 |
| ogra | i didnt see him touching anything there yte | 14:23 |
| ogra | *yet | 14:23 |
| tasslehoff | siji: ok, I'll try to follow the wiki all the way to the bottom before asking any more :) | 14:23 |
| siji | yes | 14:24 |
| siji | it's there in the wiki | 14:24 |
| erikcorry | Does -mcpu=vfp get me a binary that uses floating point instructions? | 15:06 |
| tasslehoff | On my Beagle Board Xubuntu install update-apt-xapian-index is using almost all the cpu, and all I have set running myself is an xterm.. | 15:19 |
| lool | erikcorry: That sounds wrong; you want fpu | 15:21 |
| lool | erikcorry: if you're using karmic, armv6 + vfp (v2) is the default | 15:22 |
| lool | So no need for any flag | 15:22 |
| lool | If using jaunty you want --with-float=softfp --with-fpu=vfp | 15:22 |
| lool | Sorry these are gcc build flags | 15:22 |
| lool | You want -mfloat-abi=softfp and -mfpu=vfp | 15:23 |
| erikcorry | Isn't the float ABI softfp by default? | 15:28 |
| erikcorry | Or does the mfpu option change that? | 15:28 |
| tasslehoff | Is the OMAP35x SDK needed to get SGX Video Acceleration on the Beagleboard? | 15:30 |
| lool | erikcorry: Our jaunty ABI is soft | 15:34 |
| lool | not softfp | 15:35 |
| erikcorry | What I want is a program that uses fp hardware, but is ABI compatible with the Karmic ABI. | 15:42 |
| erikcorry | So I think -mfpu=vfp is about right. No change to the ABI, but use vfp inside functions. | 15:42 |
| erikcorry | Unless I am misunderstanding something. | 15:42 |
| lool | erikcorry: what's your dist? | 15:45 |
| lool | jaunty or karmic? | 15:45 |
| erikcorry | Karmic | 15:45 |
| lool | erikcorry: So you dont need -mfpu=vfp | 15:45 |
| lool | it's the default | 15:45 |
| erikcorry | So Karmic doesn't work on a machine with no vfp? | 15:45 |
| lool | No | 15:45 |
| erikcorry | Ah! | 15:45 |
| erikcorry | Good to know! | 15:46 |
| lool | And for jaunty you do need both | 15:46 |
| lool | Because one tells gcc that it may use vfp instructions in binaries but not in the ABI and actually should and the other tells which fpu instructions to use | 15:46 |
| erikcorry | Do Jaunty binaries run on a Karmic machine? | 15:46 |
| lool | Yes | 15:46 |
| erikcorry | Thanks | 15:47 |
| erikcorry | And Karmic also requires ARMv6? | 15:49 |
| ogra | yes | 15:50 |
| Daviey | Would someone be really kind, and test some packages cleanly install on armel for me? It's a dkms package, and i want to test it also works of armel before getting it uploaded? | 15:52 |
| Daviey | s/of/on | 15:52 |
| ogra | all macines i could test on are busy for the next few hours | 15:53 |
| * Daviey has an n810.. but possibly not the best native arm device to test on :) | 15:53 | |
| Daviey | ogra: oh okay, thanks. | 15:53 |
| ogra | especially for dkms stuff :) | 15:53 |
| Daviey | i've now got a qemu machine, that is almost on karmic.. but i'm not sure it's a fair test, considering how the kernel lives outside. | 15:54 |
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| Daviey | i'm wondering if my toaster would run faster than qemu. :) | 15:56 |
| ogra | likely | 15:57 |
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