| mac_v | Amaranth: hi... why is the login/logout compiz plugin not enabled by default? | 06:54 |
|---|---|---|
| Amaranth | mac_v: hmm | 06:54 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: well, it was meant for KDE to replace kwin's logout effect | 06:55 |
| mac_v | it works well in gnome too | 06:55 |
| mac_v | since we now dont have that effect at all | 06:55 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: > is this right > (class=X-session-manager & type=Dialog) | (class=Gtk-logout-helper & type=Dialog) | 06:56 |
| mac_v | that works for me | 06:56 |
| mac_v | I'm thinking of confirming this Bug 429132 ... | 06:56 |
| Amaranth | eep | 06:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 429132 in hundredpapercuts "Compiz logout effekt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/429132 | 06:57 |
| Amaranth | it made everything gray | 06:57 |
| Amaranth | and it didn't go back when I canceled the shutdown | 06:57 |
| mac_v | hmm... works fine here , no probs | 06:57 |
| Amaranth | oh, I had a broken rule | 06:57 |
| Amaranth | it was doing it whenever a gnome-session window was around | 06:58 |
| Amaranth | which is...always | 06:58 |
| mac_v | ;p | 06:58 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: that rule doesn't seem to match anything | 06:58 |
| mac_v | hrm... | 06:59 |
| * mac_v wonders why it works here | 06:59 | |
| Amaranth | mac_v: karmic? | 06:59 |
| mac_v | yup | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | mac_v: GNOME? | 06:59 |
| mac_v | yup | 06:59 |
| Amaranth | weird | 07:00 |
| mac_v | ok, ,just this alone works too> (class=Gtk-logout-helper & type=Dialog) | 07:00 |
| Amaranth | nope, class for the logout and shutdown windows are Gnome-session | 07:01 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: hrm , i grabbed the class from compiz | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | so did I | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | from ccsm | 07:02 |
| mac_v | yeah, me too , weird | 07:02 |
| Amaranth | did you switch to upstream dialogs? | 07:03 |
| mac_v | i dont understand ^ | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | hmm, that option is gone | 07:03 |
| Amaranth | we must be using upstream dialogs now | 07:04 |
| mac_v | indicator-applet-session 0.1 | 07:04 |
| mac_v | oh , let me check for updates | 07:04 |
| mac_v | (class=X-session-manager & type=Dialog) | 07:07 |
| mac_v | this works too! , :( | 07:07 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: nope , i only have PA updates... ok , shall i confirm the bug and we can figure it out in due course ? | 07:14 |
| Amaranth | I guess so | 07:14 |
| mac_v | ok. | 07:14 |
| Amaranth | if we get it working we'll want to modify the decoration plugin to not show decorations for those windows too | 07:14 |
| Amaranth | we also need to disable unredirect fullscreen windows | 07:14 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: hrm.... why no decorations for those windows? but sounds good :) | 07:16 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: yup , looks sexy without decorations | 07:18 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:46 |
| didrocks | hello pitti | 07:51 |
| MenZa | morning | 07:52 |
| didrocks | hey MenZa | 07:53 |
| * MenZa sips his coffee, checks his morning IRC. | 07:54 | |
| mvo | robert_ancell: new compiz uploaded! | 08:47 |
| robert_ancell | mvo, yay! | 08:47 |
| pitti | crack! | 08:49 |
| * pitti hugs mvo | 08:49 | |
| pitti | hey robert_ancell, good morning | 08:49 |
| robert_ancell | pitti, hey | 08:50 |
| mvo | pitti: haha - good crack! | 08:54 |
| mvo | loads of fixes :) | 08:54 |
| * mvo ticks off another item from his todo list | 08:54 | |
| seb128 | hello desktopers | 08:56 |
| didrocks | lut seb128 | 08:57 |
| seb128 | salut didrocks | 08:57 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 08:59 |
| seb128 | hello pitti | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 09:01 |
| seb128 | hello chrisccoulson | 09:01 |
| chrisccoulson | did you have a good weekend? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | yes, too short but very good otherwise | 09:03 |
| seb128 | you? | 09:03 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, same really ;) had some friends round yesterday but spent most of saturday trying to get karmic to work on my desktop | 09:04 |
| seb128 | oh, did you manage to get it working? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | what was the issue you had? | 09:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i made a silly error with my BIOS - it was trying to boot from the wrong disk. i only realised when i couldn't get jaunty to boot again too | 09:06 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 09:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i made some changes in the BIOS to turn off the onboard raid before i started the reinstall | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti | 09:07 |
| seb128 | 318 unread bug emails during the weekend | 09:07 |
| didrocks | seb128: good luck ;) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | weekend email backlogs are not fun nowadays | 09:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks ;-) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh ok | 09:08 |
| didrocks | hey chrisccoulson | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks!" | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - about bug 424511 - does gnome-session-bin need a Breaks on the earlier version of gnome-session (to force it to de-configure first)? | 09:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 424511 in gnome-session "gnome-panel and window manager do not start on login" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424511 | 09:10 |
| seb128 | what was the issue? upgrade broken in the middle of unpacking? | 09:10 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - the issue is because the schema moves between packages. gnome-session-bin gets fully configured before gnome-session is deconfigured. when that happens, gnome-session unregisters the schema that gnome-session-bin just registered | 09:11 |
| seb128 | that's a question for mvo I guess | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i wasn't sure how else to fix it | 09:12 |
| chrisccoulson | because it is the old prerm script that unregisters the schema, it is difficult to stop that from happening | 09:13 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure in which order maintainer scripts are ran | 09:14 |
| seb128 | I need to open the documentation | 09:14 |
| seb128 | but I'm trying to fight some thousand emails from the weekend right now | 09:14 |
| seb128 | so it will be a bit later ;-) | 09:14 |
| seb128 | using a conflicts or break seems to make sense | 09:14 |
| seb128 | though apt tends to be stupid on breaks and that leads to removing things | 09:15 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - that's ok, i'll let you check your e-mails ;) | 09:16 |
| chrisccoulson | and get some coffee! | 09:16 |
| seb128 | coffee!! | 09:16 |
| seb128 | good idea ;-) | 09:16 |
| didrocks | coffee is always a good idea :-) (or tea as well for the minority here ;)) | 09:17 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, yeah, i don't drink tea;) | 09:18 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: everytime you need to know in which order scripts are launch, just give a shot at http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts | 09:18 |
| mvo | tea! | 09:18 |
| didrocks | launched* | 09:19 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - yeah, i find that quite useful also | 09:19 |
| didrocks | mvo: the end of my sentence about tea was dedicated to you :-) | 09:19 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks:) | 09:19 |
| mvo | didrocks: I know ;) | 09:19 |
| mvo | didrocks: nice page - I always used the reference manual, but the diagrams are neat | 09:19 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - bug 426501 is fixed upstream now. i'm not sure when upstream plan to do a tarball, but it might be worth cherrypicking the patch if it's going to be a while | 09:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 426501 in devicekit-power "gnome-session crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426501 | 09:20 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: nice! thanks for following this | 09:29 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: are there many dupes? | 09:29 |
| pitti | but no prob to cherrypick it, they don't do releases often | 09:29 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'm not sure if there are many dupes. some bugs might get reported against Xorg, as the symptoms are fairly similar, and I'm not subscribed to the g-p-m bugs | 09:30 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: looks like http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit/DeviceKit-power/commit/?id=a09005a0a3a61537e8f34a0db2fec990a5333bd4 | 09:30 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: seems there are other worthwhile fixes there, I might just do a git snapshot | 09:31 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, that probably makes sense | 09:32 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it looks like it is http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit/DeviceKit-power/commit/?id=8cb468ce64b0e1b21198744977d8a14e17ff5efe which fixes the crash | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | + /* finalise the object */ | 09:33 |
| chrisccoulson | + g_object_unref (device); | 09:33 |
| asac | mvo: can we access the "Sources" or "Packages" files on a buildd? or is it not-defined? | 10:22 |
| mvo | asac: I think that is possible (but a bit hacky) | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - did you see the earlier conversation i had with seb128 about gnome-session upgrade issues? (sorry, I have no scrollback now) | 10:28 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: yes, but I did not look closely - it looked complicated ;) | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, yeah, it's a bit wierd | 10:30 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: if its still relevant I can have a closer look when I'm finished with my current round of update-manager fixes | 10:30 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - if you don't mind please:) i was going to propose adding a "Breaks: gnome-session (<< 2.27)" on gnome-session-bin, or something like that. We just need to make sure that the old (Jaunty) version of gnome-session is deconfigured (ie, its prerm script already ran) before the new gnome-session-bin is configured | 10:33 |
| asac | mvo: ok so rather not? | 10:39 |
| mvo | asac: well, depends on how important that is and what other options there are | 10:42 |
| seb128 | ok, took me the morning to go through weekend emails | 10:42 |
| mvo | asac: something about automatically adding something, right? | 10:42 |
| mvo | asac: :) | 10:42 |
| mvo | asac: maybe it could be done a "dpkg-buildpackage -S" time? | 10:43 |
| mvo | asac: the buildds for for main will e.g. not have universe Packages lists available | 10:43 |
| asac | hmm ok | 10:45 |
| asac | feels like something we cannot rely on ;) | 10:45 |
| asac | mvo: yes. i am thinking about "-S" ... feels ugly too | 10:47 |
| hyperair | hmm for some reason i can't get ubuntuone to load the webpage for adding my computer | 10:47 |
| hyperair | why is that, i wonder? | 10:47 |
| mvo | asac: well, some packages (like ubiquity, update-manager) use something like that, they create a private apt sources.list and get data | 10:47 |
| mvo | asac: what was the problem again that this solves? | 10:48 |
| asac | mvo: are those used in debian too? | 10:48 |
| mvo | asac: (sorry, I think you told me, but I forgot) | 10:48 |
| mvo | asac: I see no reason why it could not work for debian as well :) | 10:48 |
| asac | its basically because we have firefox etc. and debian has iceweasel etc. | 10:48 |
| asac | ok. seems we would neeed to check if the developer has main/contrib/non-free in debian and in ubuntu all four components | 10:49 |
| asac | i think that might be doable | 10:49 |
| asac | not sure how to best check that though | 10:49 |
| mvo | asac: we can have a quick phonecall after lunch and I might be able to help? | 10:50 |
| asac | why not ... ;) | 10:50 |
| * soren is fascinated by this discussion.. | 10:51 | |
| soren | asac: What are you trying to do? | 10:51 |
| mvo | magic! its asac ;) | 10:51 |
| soren | asac: I've tried looking at scrollback, but I can't find it. | 10:51 |
| asac | soren: we have supermagic ${xpi:depends} in mozilla-devscripts | 10:51 |
| soren | asac: Ok. | 10:51 |
| mvo | (oh, even supermagic!) | 10:51 |
| asac | and want to assemble the right depends ... | 10:51 |
| asac | currently we maintain a list in the sources ... but thats suboptimal and would prefer to assemble that on the fly | 10:51 |
| soren | I see. | 10:52 |
| soren | Are they the same for all extensions, but still dynamic somehow, or are they completely different for all extensions? | 10:53 |
| asac | soren: extensions ship a install.rdf that refers to the applications (with min/max version) they work on. | 10:54 |
| asac | so completely different (in theory) | 10:54 |
| asac | most will have firefox of course | 10:54 |
| soren | Right. | 10:54 |
| soren | Oh, so it's based on that? | 10:54 |
| asac | yes. | 10:55 |
| soren | And that info is in Packages? | 10:55 |
| asac | not yet. | 10:55 |
| asac | but could be added | 10:55 |
| soren | Ah. | 10:55 |
| soren | That would make sense. | 10:55 |
| asac | for now we maintain a superset of applications | 10:55 |
| asac | but would like to add two meta fields: ApplicationId, ApplicationVersion: | 10:56 |
| asac | in that way we could make this 100% accurate | 10:56 |
| asac | the other option would be to require developers to install _all_ dependencies during build | 10:56 |
| asac | but thats bad | 10:56 |
| asac | ;) | 10:56 |
| asac | and not needed i hope | 10:56 |
| * soren ponders | 10:59 | |
| asac | so anyone found where the "retry" button is hiding in new edge launchpad? | 11:03 |
| asac | oh | 11:03 |
| asac | its that tiny recycle icon | 11:03 |
| asac | seb128: can you NEW those https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/0.8~a~git.20090911t130220.4c77fa0-0ubuntu1 ? | 11:05 |
| asac | thx | 11:06 |
| seb128 | asac, newed | 11:22 |
| pitti | asac: oh, new N-M? another polkit-1 migration thing done then \o/ | 11:22 |
| seb128 | mvo, newed compiz too | 11:23 |
| pitti | asac: curious, the applet still needs to b-dep on libpolkit? | 11:24 |
| asac | seb128: rock. | 11:24 |
| asac | pitti: i will check that. might be an oversight or will land soonish i would hope | 11:24 |
| pitti | asac: usually you shouldn't need to have any polkit code client-side any more | 11:25 |
| asac | in configure.ac it now uses polkit-gobject-1 | 11:25 |
| asac | so at least the packaging can be adjusted | 11:25 |
| asac | pitti: i thikn its a bit different because the applet provides a user settings service on its own | 11:26 |
| asac | but i will check with dan | 11:26 |
| soren | asac: From what I can tell, debian-installer build-depends on apt, and grabs Package lists from the same place as the buildd and uses the information from there to do its magic. If debian-installer uses it, I'd say it's likely to not stop working anytime soon. You can look at debian-installer/build/util/get-packages to see how it calls apt-get (look for APT_GET). | 11:31 |
| pitti | asac: the applet runs as user, though? | 11:32 |
| pitti | asac: anyway, it's not a blocker, I just wondered | 11:32 |
| asac | pitti: just saw that we properly depend on polkit-1 ... at least. i will check if that can be dropped | 11:32 |
| asac | but i think we want the user settings to be controllable by certain other users | 11:32 |
| pitti | ah | 11:32 |
| === al-maisan_ is now known as al-maisan | ||
| mvo | seb128: cool, many thanks | 12:06 |
| seb128 | mvo, np, I'm eager to try the update ;-) | 12:06 |
| mvo | seb128: it rocks :) | 12:09 |
| mvo | seb128: and puts the policykit dialogs on top | 12:10 |
| mvo | seb128: and needs new libcompizconfig and new plugins that are not build yet and apparently have a low build-score :( | 12:10 |
| mvo | would it be possible to get a private ppa so that I can ask for ppa->archive copies? | 12:10 |
| seb128 | you can maybe bribe pitti to bump build score ;-) | 12:10 |
| * mvo offers green tea to pitti as a bribe | 12:11 | |
| pitti | mvo: which source packages? | 12:13 |
| pitti | mvo: libcompizconfig is in depwait | 12:13 |
| seb128 | it's waiting for compiz publishing apparently | 12:15 |
| mvo | yeah, same for the plugins- packages, waiting for compiz-core-dev | 12:15 |
| seb128 | the changelog is impressive | 12:16 |
| seb128 | lot of issues and crashes fixed ;-) | 12:16 |
| mvo | yeah, the compiz upstream guys are just great | 12:16 |
| mvo | lots of valgrind and gcc -Wall | 12:16 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 12:17 |
| mvo | and sparse I think | 12:17 |
| mvo | tseliot: do you have a idea how much space dkms (roughly) needs? | 12:23 |
| mvo | tseliot: for building I mean in /tmp ? | 12:23 |
| tseliot | mvo: for building a module? | 12:24 |
| mvo | tseliot: yes | 12:25 |
| seb128 | wb chrisccoulson | 12:25 |
| mvo | tseliot: a rough estimate is good enough, I want to add code a update-manager to ensure there is enough space in /tmp for building and that it does not fail because of this | 12:25 |
| tseliot | mvo: I don't know but wouldn't it depend on the module? | 12:26 |
| seb128 | mvo, did you read the gnome-session question earlier? | 12:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, did you work on making totem use libgdata? | 12:26 |
| * tseliot -> lunch | 12:26 | |
| mvo | hey chrisccoulson - I had a quick look at your question and I think break is ok | 12:26 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: what does the prerm do btw? | 12:26 |
| mvo | tseliot: I guess it would, I just need a number :) I can then use it as a lower bound | 12:26 |
| tseliot | mvo: ok, I'll give you a number when I'm back | 12:27 |
| mvo | thanks tseliot | 12:27 |
| seb128 | mvo, it's standard dh_gconf calls | 12:27 |
| seb128 | mvo, old schemas unregistered and new one registered | 12:28 |
| seb128 | to make sure you don't have deprecated keys in the config and get the new ones too | 12:28 |
| * mvo nods | 12:28 | |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 - no, i didn't work on that, as the MIR has not been approved yet. should i wait for that though? | 12:28 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no need to wait on the mir, that's a chicken egg issue ;-) | 12:29 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - thanks for looking at that issue. the prerm script contains a hook generated by dh_gconf to unregister the schema | 12:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the eariler we ger the change the better if we want it for alpha | 12:29 |
| chrisccoulson | and the schema is registered in the postinst script. so there appears to be a race if you move the schema between packages | 12:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - ok, i'll work on that later then:) | 12:30 |
| seb128 | pitti, sorry about the apport bug, I got confused I think yes, the thing is "get a crash, click to report it, get the error about whatever being deprecated you don't care about" | 12:30 |
| pitti | seb128: right, it it's definitively an issue | 12:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok thanks | 12:30 |
| pitti | seb128: but Kmos' patch is wrong | 12:30 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo, i just saw seb128 already answered your question ;) | 12:31 |
| * chrisccoulson should look at scrollback more often | 12:31 | |
| seb128 | pitti, right, that was a reply to " or don't collect information from the Apport notification which opens automatically " | 12:31 |
| pitti | seb128: I figured; thanks for confirming | 12:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, I do click on it because I want to report the bug and I don't know that have pulseaudio not uptodate will prevent me reporting a bug on nautilus for example | 12:31 |
| pitti | seb128: I think you should just add it to your ~/.bashrc or so | 12:32 |
| pitti | sorry, ~/.profile | 12:32 |
| pitti | the one that's read by GNOME | 12:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, well I do want to be told about outdated versions | 12:32 |
| seb128 | so I can decided according to what is outdated | 12:32 |
| pitti | seb128: if that's really hurting you, I can spend some 20 minutes to fix it properly | 12:33 |
| seb128 | ie if the software is outdated no point to report the bug, if that's some stupid lib ... | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, no that's ok, I understand the issue now, thanks ;-) | 12:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, can I gedit the .crash by hand to drop the UnreportableReason? | 12:34 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 12:34 |
| seb128 | ok, that's good enough for me | 12:34 |
| seb128 | thanks: | 12:34 |
| seb128 | ! | 12:34 |
| * seb128 hugs pitti | 12:34 | |
| * pitti hugs seb128 | 12:34 | |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, current retracer crash is again a "AssertionError: Could not find package for ExecutablePath" | 12:41 |
| pitti | it's looking for /usr/lib/firefox-3.5.2/firefox which doesn't exist any more | 12:42 |
| pitti | I'll just fix it to close them as obsolete | 12:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok thanks | 12:42 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - do you remember that i spoke to you just before feature-freeze about getting libgda4 in to main, but then i put it off because the package that requires it (glom) was not going to be ready for FF? | 12:43 |
| chrisccoulson | the currentl version of glom in karmic is completely busted now though... | 12:43 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I remember | 12:43 |
| chrisccoulson | it's not installable due to missing dependencies, and I can't rebuild it because it requires pygda3, which no longer exists in the archive either | 12:44 |
| pitti | eww | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | (that used to come from gnome-python2-extras) | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | so, i'm not sure what to do ;) | 12:44 |
| pitti | I assume it neither builds with the new 4 API, nor is there a newer upstream version which does? | 12:44 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - it won't build with pygda4 either, as the API has changed a fair bit | 12:45 |
| chrisccoulson | the newer upstream version will do though | 12:45 |
| pitti | oh, brilliant | 12:45 |
| chrisccoulson | is that enough justification for a FFe? ;) | 12:45 |
| pitti | absolutely | 12:46 |
| pitti | it can hardly get any worse, after all | 12:46 |
| pitti | so updating it is a no-brainer | 12:46 |
| pitti | (I mean -release wise) | 12:46 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's what i thought. we still need to get libgda4 in main though, so that we can build pygda4 | 12:47 |
| chrisccoulson | but i can work on a MIR for that | 12:47 |
| * asac lunch | 13:00 | |
| seb128 | mvo, libcompizconfig built now | 13:09 |
| seb128 | mvo, the new version sort of fix the focus issue with seahorse gpg agent dialogs | 13:10 |
| seb128 | they get on the first plan now which is good | 13:10 |
| seb128 | but they still look unfocussed, ie decorations not colored | 13:11 |
| mvo | seb128: hm, it seems that it gets it right for software-store - is that the same polkit1 dialog? | 13:13 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, I'm speaking about the gpg agent dialog | 13:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, design *.changes, esc, debsign *.changes | 13:14 |
| mvo | seb128: btw, do you happen to know if there is a way to avoid the blocking when the polkit1 dialog comes up? in the past I brought up the dialog, so I had a (addtional) gtk main loop running, but now its the doing of polkit | 13:14 |
| mvo | seb128: oh, ok. I have a look | 13:14 |
| seb128 | mvo, no idea, maybe james_w` or pitti know | 13:17 |
| james_w` | no idea, sorry | 13:18 |
| james_w` | you could mail polkit-devel | 13:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, when starting a guest session I always get gnome-panel opacity not correct with the new compiz, did you notice that too? | 13:30 |
| seb128 | ie the top bar is transparent and only displayed when clicking on it | 13:30 |
| === james_w` is now known as james_w | ||
| mvo | seb128: I need to test this on my other machine, with nvidia the guest session does not work for me with compiz :( | 13:48 |
| seb128 | mvo, could be the same with a normal session start but I didn't want to close mine ;-) | 13:50 |
| asac | seb128: what app would be a good candidate to test gio modules? | 14:07 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so | 14:07 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so | 14:07 |
| asac | /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiogconf.so | 14:07 |
| seb128 | the gtk fileselector in gedit for example? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | try browsing a ssh or smb share from there | 14:08 |
| asac | what does the giogconf thing do? | 14:08 |
| asac | thx | 14:08 |
| seb128 | it allows gio to use gconf | 14:08 |
| seb128 | gio is under gconf in the stack | 14:08 |
| asac | seb128: how can i trigger that code path? | 14:08 |
| seb128 | so it can't use libgconf, they have to trick | 14:09 |
| asac | ah | 14:09 |
| seb128 | same for gvfs | 14:09 |
| asac | would gedit file selector trigger it? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:09 |
| seb128 | browse a share with nautilus | 14:09 |
| asac | ok ... why are all those modules separate? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | ssh, smb, ftp, anything non local | 14:09 |
| seb128 | and open the gedit fileselector | 14:09 |
| asac | e.g. can one use gvfsdbus without giogconf? | 14:09 |
| seb128 | and see if you can browse those | 14:09 |
| asac | felt like thats not possible | 14:09 |
| asac | thanks. i think thats enough for our purpose | 14:10 |
| seb128 | you can probably use giogconf to access gconf settings from gio | 14:10 |
| seb128 | but I doubt we have anything doing that | 14:10 |
| seb128 | the real "customer" for those is to make gio be able to use gvfs backends | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i saw some chatter about compiz earlier, is there a known issue with it not starting? | 14:10 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, no but you might have caught a partial upgrade | 14:10 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:11 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ie upgraded the core while the plugins were not update | 14:11 |
| seb128 | what error do you get? | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | Found no decorator to start | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mvo is well known to screw those every time ;-) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:11 |
| seb128 | did you get any package remove? | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:11 |
| seb128 | ie did you validate a dist-upgrade without reading or something? | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | it removed some plugins and the compiz package | 14:12 |
| seb128 | hum | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | but upgrade compiz-core | 14:12 |
| seb128 | the goal is to make you wait | 14:12 |
| seb128 | not to make you remove | 14:12 |
| pitti | mvo: sorry, closed IRC over lunch; what was your PK question? | 14:12 |
| seb128 | it's basically your fault | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:12 |
| seb128 | ie don't confirm package removal | 14:12 |
| seb128 | what it said is "you are in the middle of a transition, do you want to wait or screw your system to get new crack" | 14:13 |
| seb128 | and you went for the new crack ;-) | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | hehe... ok | 14:13 |
| seb128 | wait for the next publisher run now and reinstall those | 14:13 |
| * kenvandine thought it would have held those back | 14:13 | |
| seb128 | upgrade would so | 14:13 |
| seb128 | upgrade would do | 14:14 |
| seb128 | dist-upgrade go the other way and remove to get you new cracks if you really want | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | certainly not important... just glad there isn't a bug :) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | you should be using upgrade rather than dist-upgrade | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | hummm.. someone told me it would be better to test dist-upgrade regularly | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3* | 14:14 |
| kenvandine | :) | 14:14 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 | 14:15 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, well read what dist-upgrade do in any case, conflicts often lead to removal during transitions | 14:15 |
| seb128 | ie it's fine to remove old lib sonames | 14:15 |
| seb128 | but you usually don't want to remove your decorator | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | i read it, just tested that upgrade path | 14:15 |
| kenvandine | i have the decorator... not sure why it isn't finding it | 14:16 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:16 |
| seb128 | what did get uninstalled exactly? | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3: fyi... you shouldn't dist-upgrade this morning :) | 14:16 |
| kenvandine | compizconfig-backend-gconf might be the culprit | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | that was removed | 14:17 |
| seb128 | ups, wrong focus | 14:17 |
| kenvandine | it removed compiz and compizconfig-backend-gconf | 14:17 |
| seb128 | try reinstalling those? | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | the decorator is in compiz-core, so i suspect compizconfig-backend-gconf | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | doing that now | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | dep errors | 14:19 |
| * kenvandine just waits | 14:19 | |
| kenvandine | i know rickspencer3 does dist-upgrades every morning.. so i want to stop him :) | 14:19 |
| seb128 | let's see if he does read what dist-upgrade do before acking ;-) | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 14:20 |
| seb128 | I usually use update-manager which does the right thing | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | i was suspicious of the upgrade... but knew it wouldn't completely hose me :) | 14:20 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 14:20 |
| Laney | aptitude did the right thing on compiz for me, FWIW | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | compiz | 1:0.8.3+git20090914-0ubuntu1 | karmic | source | 14:21 |
| * kenvandine waits for binaries | 14:21 | |
| Laney | "Keep the following packages at their current version: | 14:21 |
| Laney | compiz [1:0.8.2-0ubuntu16 (now)] | 14:21 |
| Laney | and so on | 14:21 |
| * rickspencer3_ reads up | 14:22 | |
| seb128 | rickspencer3: summary; don't ack compiz removal if you dist-upgrade | 14:22 |
| rickspencer3_ | kenvandine, are you getting an issue where you window frames kind of dissapear? | 14:23 |
| kenvandine | no | 14:23 |
| rickspencer3 | oops, my other computer is on | 14:23 |
| mvo | (did that happen in the middle of publish run? - on my test machine compiz wants to upgrade complettly)? | 14:23 |
| seb128 | the goal is to make people wait to get all the binaries but dist-upgrade junkies might have issues ;-) | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | rmadison says it isn't published yet | 14:24 |
| seb128 | compiz is published for 2 hours | 14:24 |
| kenvandine | humm | 14:24 |
| seb128 | but other things were waiting for it to build | 14:24 |
| seb128 | ie libcompizsettings | 14:24 |
| seb128 | libcompizconfig | 14:25 |
| seb128 | so those might still be pending publishing now | 14:25 |
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| seb128 | mvo, should bug #414170 be closed too? | 14:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 414170 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main "ability to re-enable scroll-wheel desktop switching in compiz" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414170 | 14:48 |
| * popey wonders if anyone is aware of bug 412125, and that it makes flash unusable (comments about flash being unusable by default to /dev/null) on karmic.. | 14:49 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412125 in nspluginwrapper "Controls in video player no longer work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412125 | 14:49 |
| mvo | seb128: yes, I merged that one | 14:51 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks :) | 14:51 |
| popey | it may well not be an nspluginwrapper issue, but given it only seems to affect 64-bit ubuntu.. | 14:51 |
| seb128 | mvo, np ;-) | 14:51 |
| seb128 | popey, no clue about that, maybe try #ubuntu-mozilla rather? | 14:52 |
| popey | ok | 14:52 |
| popey | that channel is empty | 14:52 |
| seb128 | I've no clue about that and I use only i386 installs | 14:52 |
| seb128 | asac, what is the channel for ubuntu mozilla? | 14:53 |
| james_w | #ubuntu-mozillateam | 14:53 |
| asac | yep | 14:53 |
| popey | thanks! | 14:53 |
| mvo | so seriously, what would it take to get ppa->archive copy for compiz so that we can ensure the thing goes in in one go? | 15:02 |
| seb128 | mvo, wrong channel, would rather be a soyuz question I guess | 15:03 |
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| pitti | kenvandine: bug 412601 is marked fixed upstream, but open in karmic; is there a new release we can package which drops the old policykit bits and incorporates lool's fixes? | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412601 in indicator-session "[MIR] indicator-session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412601 | 16:16 |
| * kenvandine will look | 16:17 | |
| pitti | kenvandine: btw, I uploaded all the farsight/upnp stuff on Saturday, should be all set now | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah thx! | 16:18 |
| Keybuk | after today's updates, all my window manager keybindings have been lost | 16:18 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3 and i did our weekly 1:1 with it today :) | 16:18 |
| pitti | kenvandine: rock | 16:20 |
| james_w | Keybuk: compiz? | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | james_w: yes | 16:22 |
| james_w | Keybuk: did you upgrade compiz and remove a compiz related package? | 16:22 |
| james_w | -gconf or something? | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | james_w: I did a dist-upgrade | 16:23 |
| james_w | yeah, it probably forced the removal of some plugin packages due to skew | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | james_w: compizconfig-backend-gconf is installed | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | though it's a different version | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | 0.8.2 vs. 1:0.8.3+git... | 16:23 |
| james_w | maybe it's just broken | 16:24 |
| lool | Keybuk: For the other packages there are ABI depends to prevent this from happening; compiz-core-abiversion-2009xxxx | 16:27 |
| lool | But I was told by upstream that this wasn't needed for these | 16:27 |
| Keybuk | I don't have any -abiversion- packages installed | 16:28 |
| lool | Keybuk: it's a virtual provide | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | lool: ah ok | 16:28 |
| lool | apt-cache show compiz-fusion-plugins-extra |grep compiz-core-abiversion | 16:28 |
| Keybuk | two such packages show up in "dpkg -l" as uninstalled | 16:28 |
| lool | But this system is not used for the compizconfig backend; perhaps it should; upstream told me not in the past | 16:28 |
| lool | mvo: ^ do you know? | 16:28 |
| mvo | Keybuk, lool: do you have the "compiz" metapkg still installed? | 16:30 |
| * asac out for 2-3h | 16:30 | |
| mvo | or did apt helpfully remove that for you? | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | mvo: no | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | mvo: apparently | 16:30 |
| Keybuk | compiz: Depends: compiz-fusion-plugins-extra (>= 0.8.3) but it is not going to be installed | 16:30 |
| mvo | its currently building | 16:31 |
| mvo | sorry, for the trouble | 16:31 |
| cassidy | seb128, kenvandine: would be good to ship farsight2 0.0.15, that's a bug fix release | 16:34 |
| seb128 | cassidy, what about telepathy-gabble 0.8.3? | 16:34 |
| cassidy | yep, that one too | 16:34 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:35 |
| cassidy | I opened https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-gabble/+bug/429378 | 16:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 429378 in telepathy-gabble "Sync telepathy-gabble 0.8.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] | 16:35 |
| cassidy | but didn't for fs2 as there is an ubuntu delta | 16:35 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 16:35 |
| cassidy | not sure if we should drop it or not | 16:35 |
| cassidy | bigon, ^ | 16:35 |
| seb128 | we can't | 16:35 |
| seb128 | debian doesn't have farsight in gst-good I think | 16:36 |
| cassidy | oh right | 16:36 |
| cassidy | papyon would be good to but has been refused : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/428779 | 16:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 428779 in papyon "FFE: Merge papyon 0.4.2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:37 |
| rugby471 | hello | 16:37 |
| seb128 | cassidy, seems this one has not been refused but pitti has valid concern on code copy | 16:44 |
| rugby471 | mvo: hi | 16:44 |
| seb128 | cassidy, do you know why upstream moved to use a private copy rather than the system version? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | hey rugby471 | 16:44 |
| pitti | seb128: the code copy can be easily reverted, as it seems, so when that's done (as a package patch or upstream), it looks fine indeed | 16:45 |
| cassidy | seb128, not sure; I'll ask. I guess that's because it's not pkged | 16:45 |
| seb128 | cassidy, the usual way is to have both, use the system version if available otherwise use the copy as fallback | 16:46 |
| mvo | hey rugby471! | 16:46 |
| mvo | rugby471: I saw your branch, many thanks! what did change in the status icons? | 16:46 |
| cassidy | seb128, I'll ask him | 16:46 |
| rugby471 | mvo: you mean the progres icons? | 16:46 |
| mvo | rugby471: yeah | 16:46 |
| cassidy | seb128, we just release tp-butterfly with audio/video support btw :) | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: just changed them to be 24x24 | 16:47 |
| mvo | rugby471: aha, cool | 16:47 |
| seb128 | cassidy, how well is that working? | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | and the names of them to be softwarestore-progress-n.png | 16:47 |
| mvo | rugby471: I have not merged yet, but I will today (I think) | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: rather than software-store ... | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: kl | 16:47 |
| cassidy | seb128, surprisingly well when I tested it | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I would also have a look at the other branches (like stuart landridges) | 16:47 |
| cassidy | not sure if it should be shipped in Karmic though | 16:47 |
| rugby471 | mvo: he has a useful feature that is implemented in my branch, but not as well :-) | 16:48 |
| cassidy | oth, I expect most people will use pkg from the PPA if it's not | 16:48 |
| seb128 | I expect most user don't know what a ppa is | 16:48 |
| seb128 | your userbase vision seems to be a technical users corner ;-) | 16:49 |
| cassidy | good point. I still think that most Empathy users are people with some technical experience but that's not true any more | 16:50 |
| seb128 | at least it will not be in karmic if it's default | 16:50 |
| cassidy | you are using haze for MSN ? | 16:50 |
| pitti | cassidy: not any more | 16:51 |
| pitti | we recently switched to install butterfly by default | 16:51 |
| cassidy | cool | 16:51 |
| mac_v | rugby471: mvo: In software store... when an install is in progress , i switch to that section , now once the install has completed the window just becomes empty :( , the "In progress" section disappears and nothing is shown in the right display window.... wouldnt it be better if the view automatically switched to the last completed install/remove? | 16:52 |
| Zdra | Karmic should definitely ship with MSN a/v ! | 16:52 |
| mvo | mac_v: yeah it would - I think there is even a open bug about that | 16:52 |
| mac_v | oh.. ok.. good to know :) | 16:53 |
| rugby471 | mac_v: that is a question to ask mpt who is not here right now :-) | 16:53 |
| cassidy | Zdra, you didn't even test it yet :p | 16:53 |
| mac_v | rugby471: yeah lucky him ;p | 16:53 |
| mvo | rugby471: yeah, I saw it, today I was pretty occupied with other stuff | 16:53 |
| mvo | rugby471: but its on my merge agenda :) | 16:53 |
| Zdra | cassidy: ... and I won't use it... but that's a really good sell argument | 16:53 |
| rugby471 | mvo: hehe | 16:53 |
| rugby471 | mvo: would it help if I summarise what I did in my branch , here? | 16:53 |
| seb128 | Zdra, if it's working | 16:54 |
| mvo | rugby471: if you would write debian/changelog entires, that would help me | 16:54 |
| rugby471 | sure | 16:54 |
| mvo | many thanks! | 16:54 |
| seb128 | Zdra, upstream tends to be enthousiastic about new features without always noticing the stability issues | 16:54 |
| cassidy | yeah | 16:56 |
| Zdra | bah, stable software is not something important, all that we care is the buzz of announcement | 16:57 |
| Zdra | see google's business plan | 16:57 |
| Zdra | add a little "beta" next to ubuntu and that's it | 16:57 |
| mac_v | rugby471: mpt has already answered ; > Bug #426278 | 16:57 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 426278 in software-store ""In Progress" section sometimes appears empty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426278 | 16:57 |
| Zdra | seb128: more seriously, we shipped a/v for jabber even if doesn't work that well... and no other client does msn a/v, so it can't be a regression | 16:58 |
| seb128 | Zdra, the issue is not only that, it's also the stability of your im client | 17:00 |
| seb128 | Zdra, and shipping broken things or things not working correctly usually give a bad image of the product, better to not enable a feature that giving the impression it's a working one if it will create frustration for most users for example | 17:00 |
| Zdra | seb128: seems you are the last sane people in IT :p | 17:01 |
| Zdra | usually it is "works for me, so ship it" | 17:02 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 17:02 |
| pitti | mat_t: hey, welcome back! | 17:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, hum so I've some gettext for desktop files wondering | 17:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, I noticed that the message indicator applet launchers are not translated | 17:10 |
| seb128 | seems to be due to the fact that we strip translations from the desktop file | 17:10 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I have pushed the debian changelog | 17:11 |
| seb128 | pitti, how are applications supposed to get translated desktop names nowadays? | 17:11 |
| kenvandine | pitti, about bug 412601 | 17:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 412601 in indicator-session "[MIR] indicator-session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412601 | 17:12 |
| kenvandine | i think the upstream bug got marked as released because it was moved to main | 17:12 |
| kenvandine | the PK bug is 418643 | 17:12 |
| mvo | rugby471: thanks, I have a look once I'm finished with some update-manager work | 17:12 |
| kenvandine | which i think is on deck to be completed this week | 17:12 |
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| rugby471 | mvo: cool | 17:13 |
| rugby471 | mvo: oh by the way here is a very easy to fix bug :-) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-store/+bug/428324 | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 428324 in software-store "Software Store needs branding on Launchpad" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 17:17 |
| mvo | rugby471: :) | 17:19 |
| mvo | rugby471: I check it out after lunch | 17:20 |
| mvo | eh | 17:20 |
| mvo | dinner | 17:20 |
| MenZa | !lasmen | 17:27 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about lasmen | 17:27 |
| MenZa | er. | 17:27 |
| MenZa | hmm. | 17:28 |
| MenZa | I was wondering why I'd been highlighted in here. Turns out I had 'help' on highlight. | 17:28 |
| * MenZa grumbles. | 17:28 | |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, it's bug #371399 | 17:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371399 in glib2.0 "Gettext support for GDesktopAppinfo" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371399 | 17:29 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've added a karmic task, that's very visible for the message launchers | 17:30 |
| Amaranth | mvo: yay compiz upload :) | 17:32 |
| mat_t | hey pitti :) | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | it is very thoughtful of gdu-notification-daemon to tell me that my disk is failing, every time i log in | 17:42 |
| mac_v | chrisccoulson: just turn it off from start up list ;) | 17:44 |
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| chrisccoulson | mac_v - yeah, i might do that. but it needs fixing properly really ;) | 17:44 |
| mac_v | yup , there is a bug about it already :) | 17:45 |
| mvo | Amaranth: yay, the changelog is impressive too :) | 17:48 |
| mvo | rugby471: meh, I don't think I manage the merge today, I do it tmorrow (sorry for that) | 17:48 |
| rugby471 | mvo: no problem | 17:48 |
| rugby471 | mvo: there is no rush :-) | 17:49 |
| pitti | seb128: hi (sorry, was at dinner) | 17:49 |
| pitti | seb128: they should have X-GNOME-Gettext-Domain: in the .desktop file and the translations in the .po/.mo files | 17:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, cf my most recent messages | 17:49 |
| pitti | kenvandine: ah, and Loic's changes? | 17:49 |
| pitti | seb128: looking | 17:49 |
| pitti | seb128: right, thanks; will look into that | 17:50 |
| kenvandine | pitti, don't know about that | 17:50 |
| dpm | pitti: seb128, there's some information I collected here on .desktop files as well, you can also tell me if you spot any errors -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Internationalisation#Desktop%20Entries | 17:50 |
| dpm | (re: seb128's question earlier) | 17:51 |
| pitti | dpm: nice, thanks! edited to use X-GNOME-... (the preferred name now) | 17:52 |
| dpm | ok, cool, thanks | 17:53 |
| dpm | pitti: out of interest, howcome has that changed to X-GNOME-...? Has the functionality been accepted at freedesktop.org upstream? | 17:55 |
| pitti | dpm: it's used in OpenSUSE as well now, and proposed upstream | 17:56 |
| pitti | dpm: X-Ubuntu- still works, of course, but we shouldn't perpetuate it | 17:56 |
| pitti | I hope that one day it just becomes Gettext-Domain: | 17:56 |
| dpm | right, ok | 17:57 |
| rugby471 | sorry guys I know this is off-topic but could anyone tell me whether the SM_CLIENT_ID of a window needs ot be specific to the process (ie. main_window) or to the session manager (ie. softwarestore_main_window) ? | 17:58 |
| rugby471 | ot > to | 17:58 |
| seb128 | vuntz, hey, did you update your langpack patch for gdesktopapp apis too? | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | rugby471- i'm not sure i completely understand the question. the sm_client_id should be unique to the main window, and is allocated by the session manager | 18:01 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: hi chris | 18:01 |
| chrisccoulson | hi:) | 18:01 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: basically does the ID need to be main_window | 18:02 |
| rugby471 | or softwarestore_main_window | 18:02 |
| rugby471 | I am trying to solve bug 426294 | 18:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm still a bit confused - what are you doing with it? | 18:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 426294 in software-store "Store doesn't "support 'save current setup'" - No SM_CLIENT_ID" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426294 | 18:02 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 18:03 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: so I need to use .set_role() to fix this | 18:03 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: or am I wrong? | 18:03 |
| * rugby471 is clueless about session manager/application interaction | 18:04 | |
| chrisccoulson | oh yeah. right, software-store needs to connect to the session manager (using something like eggsmclient or gnomeclient). the session manager will allocate the client ID, which you would then set as a property on the leader window with gdk_set_sm_client_id (in C) | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | but i don't know if you need to do the second step really | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't see other applications do that, and they work fine | 18:05 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: ok, so I need to connect to the session manager first, and then (maybe) set the role | 18:05 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: know of the python module to connect to the session manager? | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | rugby471 - i'm not sure of how to do it in python. i will try to find an example | 18:06 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: thanks | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | my python knowledge isnt that great;) | 18:06 |
| rugby471 | hehe | 18:06 |
| chrisccoulson | you can just use raw dbus calls if you're in gnome, but that wouldn't work with other session managers | 18:07 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: I shall ask mvo if you cannot find anything as he will be more intouch with it than I am :-) | 18:09 |
| rugby471 | mvo: I am looking at bug 428417, should I just open this with eog? | 18:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 428417 in software-store "screenshots are too small" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428417 | 18:12 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: don't worry about it, I thought it was just a simple thign but it seems like it is something that needs some more thought. Thanks for your help :-) | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | rugby471 - that warning shouldn't be presented normally now btw, due to a recent metacity update. are you still seeing it? | 18:13 |
| vuntz | seb128: no. Did something change? | 18:13 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: no I am not | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | it should only appear at the moment if you try to log out and you've got session saving enabled | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | which is not the default | 18:13 |
| rugby471 | on a fresh karmic it did not happen for me | 18:13 |
| seb128 | vuntz, the original patches we have are for gnome-menus and g_key I think | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | but i disagree that a warning should be shown at all anyway - there are lots of clients that don't do session saving | 18:14 |
| seb128 | vuntz, g_app_* was added after those and is not using gettext | 18:14 |
| rugby471 | chrisccoulson: I agree and it looks like upstream as well, however they have got to get around to doing it first :-) | 18:14 |
| seb128 | vuntz, I was just wondering if you worked on that before we dup efforts ;-) | 18:14 |
| rugby471 | upstream > upstream do | 18:14 |
| vuntz | seb128: nope | 18:14 |
| vuntz | seb128: but I'll be happy to use your patch ;-) | 18:14 |
| vuntz | seb128: (else, I'll do it... hrm... in a few days) | 18:15 |
| seb128 | vuntz, ok, let's see who is slower ;-) | 18:18 |
| vuntz | seb128: I would expect g_app* to use gkeyfile, though | 18:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz, it doesn't work | 18:19 |
| seb128 | vuntz, python -c "import gio; print gio.app_info_get_default_for_type('image/jpg', 0).get_name()" | 18:19 |
| seb128 | try that for example | 18:19 |
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| seb128 | for some reason it doesn't use translations | 18:19 |
| seb128 | I didn't look at the code yet | 18:19 |
| seb128 | asac, there? | 18:30 |
| pitti | good night everyone, Taekwondo o'clock | 18:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, have fun | 18:37 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm pleasantly surprised at the boot speed of my desktop with karmic | 18:42 |
| seb128 | lucky you | 18:47 |
| seb128 | I'm not impressed at the one on both my laptop and desktop configs | 18:47 |
| seb128 | it takes some 35 seconds to go to gdm | 18:48 |
| chrisccoulson | 35 seconds is just slightly longer than my desktop took with jaunty | 18:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i get 22 seconds now | 18:49 |
| jcastro | seb128: you need an ssd | 18:50 |
| jcastro | :) | 18:50 |
| chrisccoulson | jcastro - my 22 seconds is just on a standard 7200rpm hard drive ;) | 18:51 |
| Amaranth | jcastro: still getting 8 second boots? | 18:51 |
| seb128 | I've a ssd on my mini config | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | 8 seconds? | 18:51 |
| jcastro | Amaranth: no, down to 4 | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | nice:) | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i must invest in one! | 18:51 |
| Amaranth | I'm getting 30 seconds even with ubuntu-boot staging | 18:51 |
| Amaranth | jcastro: holy crap | 18:51 |
| seb128 | jcastro, but I like to have medium configs so I know what the average user experience is | 18:51 |
| Amaranth | jcastro: that means login time is at least 4x boot time now | 18:51 |
| jcastro | dude you'd be surprised how many annoying things get fixed with a fast disk, heh | 18:51 |
| * Amaranth has a 5400rpm drive | 18:51 | |
| seb128 | jcastro, you can't require everybody to have a ssd to have a decent user experience | 18:51 |
| jcastro | seb128: I have an older laptop with a 4200rpm drive that I keep just to keep me honest | 18:51 |
| chrisccoulson | jcastro - i could save 18 seconds of my life every day by investing in a SSD;) | 18:52 |
| Amaranth | no but the 10 second boot/login is meant for SSDs | 18:52 |
| jcastro | well, it's a slow ssd | 18:52 |
| Amaranth | jcastro: thought you had the X25 | 18:52 |
| jcastro | I do | 18:52 |
| jcastro | no, I meant the "10 second boot" machine has a slow ssd | 18:52 |
| Amaranth | oh, right | 18:52 |
| Amaranth | jcastro: So if a slow SSD and a slow CPU get a 10 second boot you should get a 5 second boot :P | 18:53 |
| jcastro | seb128: even on the slow laptop it's been improving for me | 18:53 |
| Amaranth | at that point suspend is kind of pointless unless you have something you want to keep open :P | 18:53 |
| jcastro | Amaranth: I was getting 5 counting couch launching xulrunner(!) so it should get faster | 18:53 |
| Amaranth | my boot time has more than doubled since a clean install of jaunty :/ | 18:54 |
| Amaranth | and I even did a clean install of alpha 4 recently | 18:54 |
| seb128 | jcastro,right, I'm a bit concerned about the "xorg will start so fast that we will not need a splash to not be true on normal non-ssd config" | 18:54 |
| jcastro | well, I always keep old machines around for testing | 18:56 |
| jcastro | seb128: one day we should all boot up with 256mb of ram or something and see how much pain we endure | 18:58 |
| seb128 | there is no point to do | 18:58 |
| seb128 | but using normal machines to do testing makes sense | 18:58 |
| seb128 | ie your ssd doesn't reflect the average user configuration I think | 18:59 |
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| ccheney | cool someone just fixed the OOo icon theme fallback code to not display not installed themes and to not fallback to ones that don't exist :) | 19:26 |
| NCommander | ccheney, please do not upload OOo | 19:39 |
| ccheney | everything except arm builds in time and arm is totally broken for OOo atm (going to fix a debug issue for arm with the next upload as well) | 19:40 |
| ccheney | or is the some other reason not to upload? | 19:40 |
| NCommander | ccheney, you upload OOo and you cause the buildds to spin out, and you break the arch all packages on armel | 19:40 |
| NCommander | livefs's will then fail to build | 19:40 |
| NCommander | and completely break images | 19:40 |
| NCommander | on armel | 19:40 |
| NCommander | We *need* an arm release for A6 | 19:41 |
| asac | seb128: pong | 19:43 |
| ccheney | NCommander: oh ok, i thought OOo was currently not installed on arm at all since its broken, no problem, won't do the upload | 19:45 |
| NCommander | ccheney, thanks. The OOo-less arch code broke a few alphas ago, but its been a moot point since its building on ia64, and sparc's d-i is very broken ATM | 19:45 |
| * NCommander has to fix the later at some point | 19:45 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - it seems that gnome-session-bin is actually just missing a conflicts on gnome-session | 19:52 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm just testing the upgrade path now | 19:52 |
| ccheney | NCommander: oh cool, ia64 isn't dead anymore :) | 19:56 |
| NCommander | ccheney, my desktop is an ia64 | 19:56 |
| NCommander | :-) | 19:57 |
| ccheney | NCommander: yea, ia64 buildd was out of space for a while though, heh | 20:01 |
| NCommander | ccheney, yeah, I had prodded lamont on that | 20:01 |
| ccheney | ok | 20:02 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: does compiz work on there? | 20:04 |
| seb128 | asac, hey, libnm-glib breaks build but I didn't investigate | 20:11 |
| seb128 | did the .pc changes name or something (in which case renaming the package would have be nice) | 20:11 |
| asac | seb128: hmm. what build did it break? | 20:13 |
| asac | we bumped soname in binary package, but not d-ev | 20:13 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, I'm stuck on the framebuffer, its got a ATI video card w/ no graphics | 20:14 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: oh, dang | 20:15 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, wanting to see if compiz works on obscure architectures? :-) | 20:15 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: yeah, I know it works on x86, x86-64, and powerpc but it'd be cool to know it works on space and ia64 too :P | 20:17 |
| Amaranth | dunno about arm | 20:17 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, I'll tell you on ARM once I have a SoC with 2D/3D accelaration ;-) | 20:18 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, I have SPARC hardware ... :-) | 20:18 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, give me a good recommendation on a PCI video card that has no binary blobs, and I'll look into it | 20:18 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: I guess anything ati older than Radeon HD cards | 20:19 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: perhaps http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161010 | 20:20 |
| seb128 | asac, empathy | 20:20 |
| seb128 | asac, I didn't build try but if the pc name changes I expect that's normal | 20:21 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, hrm, maybe my ia64's card is supported | 20:22 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, its c. 2002-ish | 20:22 |
| asac | seb128: its a bug. the pc files changed, but instead of a new packagename we should just ship compatibility .pc files | 20:27 |
| seb128 | asac, the name probably changed for a reason? ie the api is not compatible? | 20:28 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: as long as it a Radeon 7000 or newer and not a Radeon HD it should work | 20:28 |
| seb128 | in which case it doesn't make sense to have compatibility | 20:28 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, the new compiz makes some gnome-panel bars to be transparent until clicked, known issue? | 20:28 |
| asac | seb128: its a soname transition yes. but the .pc file was just changed because dan wanted to finally shift from _ to - | 20:28 |
| Amaranth | seb128: Haven't seen that, no | 20:28 |
| seb128 | asac, ah ok, bug then | 20:29 |
| Amaranth | oh man, that's probably because of my patch too :/ | 20:29 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, I get it every time in a guest session | 20:29 |
| NCommander | Amaranth, where's the idiots guide to setting up the free driver ;-) | 20:29 |
| Amaranth | seb128: don't suppose you can try building it without 015_draw_dock_shadows_on_desktop.patch? | 20:30 |
| Amaranth | seb128: you'll only have to install 3/4 of KDE to do so :) | 20:30 |
| Amaranth | NCommander: should be as simple as installing the ati driver package | 20:30 |
| Amaranth | brb, going to test guest session | 20:30 |
| Amaranth | seb128: hrm, I don't have a guest session | 20:32 |
| Amaranth | and I think I remember something about a bug right before jaunty where this happened but only with the guest session | 20:32 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, install gdm-guest-session? | 20:32 |
| Amaranth | it is installed, or at least it was | 20:33 |
| Amaranth | although I just saw the problem with my bottom panel on my regular session | 20:33 |
| Amaranth | yeah, gdm-guest-session is installed | 20:33 |
| seb128 | and you don't have "Guest session" in the fusa menu? | 20:34 |
| Amaranth | building without my patch now, it's the only one that touches any code that should have an effect on drawing docks | 20:34 |
| Amaranth | seb128: oh, I don't use fusa | 20:34 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, I'm doing that too | 20:34 |
| Amaranth | isn't it supposed to show up in gdm? | 20:34 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, well add it it you want to try guest session | 20:34 |
| Amaranth | that seems silly but ok | 20:35 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, no, for security reason only logged-in users can give you access | 20:35 |
| seb128 | that's a design decision | 20:35 |
| seb128 | no open login for anybody want to try to crack your box | 20:35 |
| Amaranth | are there two user switcher applets? | 20:35 |
| seb128 | yes | 20:36 |
| Amaranth | because the one I added just opens the gnome-control-center shell | 20:36 |
| seb128 | the upstream one and the ubuntu one | 20:36 |
| Amaranth | what is the name of that one? | 20:36 |
| seb128 | session notification | 20:36 |
| seb128 | or something similar | 20:37 |
| seb128 | the icons is "i" with a circle | 20:37 |
| Amaranth | indicator applet session | 20:37 |
| seb128 | right | 20:37 |
| * mac_v thinks canonical ran out of labels ;p and is naming everything indicator-* | 20:37 | |
| Amaranth | ok, installed my rebuilt compiz-plugins | 20:37 |
| Amaranth | still happening | 20:38 |
| Amaranth | going back to my laptop, I can test with guess session now | 20:38 |
| Amaranth | hrm, when you go back from a guest session compiz messes up just like resume from suspend | 20:39 |
| Amaranth | that'll make it easier to debug that problem | 20:40 |
| Amaranth | the panel thing also happens when you restart compiz | 20:40 |
| Amaranth | hrm, panel isn't coming back... | 20:40 |
| Keybuk | bratsche: + /usr/bin/xsplash --gdm-session & | 20:41 |
| Keybuk | urgh, could you not add a --daemon flag instead/ | 20:41 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Sure.. and then the user session just tells it to display again? | 20:42 |
| * Amaranth blames all of this on intel | 20:42 | |
| Keybuk | bratsche: no, I mean instead of the "&" | 20:42 |
| Keybuk | "&" means that xsplash will begin spawning in the background while Init carries on | 20:42 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Oh I see. | 20:43 |
| Keybuk | a --daemon flag would mean Init waits for xsplash to actually be spawned and enter its main loop | 20:43 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Sure. | 20:43 |
| Keybuk | part of the reason xsplash doesn't quite appear so quickly is the kernel /tends/ to give a little more priority to the parent rather than the child in these situations | 20:43 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, it was working before the update though ;-) | 20:45 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xsplash/+bug/429602 <-- I'll let you know when I get a branch ready. Would you be able to review it for me? | 20:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 429602 in xsplash "Add support for running as a daemon process" [Undecided,New] | 20:45 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, 1:0.8.3+git20090825-0ubuntu1 didn't have the issue if that's useful | 20:45 |
| Amaranth | seb128: just the last update even | 20:46 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, and I updated only compiz binaries | 20:46 |
| Amaranth | yeah, even the 0907 package didn't do it | 20:46 |
| Keybuk | bratsche: sure | 20:46 |
| Keybuk | no urgency, but it's a would be nice :) | 20:46 |
| Amaranth | so we've got 7 days of commits to compiz or one of the plugin packs | 20:46 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, I updated only compiz | 20:48 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, ie none of the other sources | 20:48 |
| Amaranth | ok | 20:48 |
| Amaranth | in that case http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=4477f537c43a3abc75aebc8af8ff1f28b8cf36a5 | 20:48 |
| Amaranth | *shrug* | 20:49 |
| Amaranth | it's the only commit that seems to even get close | 20:49 |
| seb128 | can you try or do you want me to try? | 20:50 |
| Amaranth | I can try | 20:50 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 20:50 |
| Amaranth | everything else is plugin changes | 20:50 |
| Amaranth | no luck, trying http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=85ba708cb894658c9bf9862a311010a9b79ec6f2 | 20:54 |
| Amaranth | if that isn't it I'm going to start tearing hair out | 20:54 |
| Amaranth | wait, that can't be it | 20:54 |
| Amaranth | holy crap I think that was it | 20:58 |
| Amaranth | yep, that was it | 20:58 |
| Amaranth | seb128: if you back out http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=fc83fcd8b9866c19416323e17e82e4e4e9fb14d2 and http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=85ba708cb894658c9bf9862a311010a9b79ec6f2 (in that order) it should start working correctly again | 20:59 |
| Amaranth | just snag the patch files for them from cgit and patch -R | 20:59 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, is that useful if I do testing? | 20:59 |
| Amaranth | seb128: yeah, just to make sure that is the problem commit | 21:00 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:00 |
| Amaranth | I just tried guest session 3 times and didn't get invisible panels while before I was getting one every time | 21:00 |
| Amaranth | but confirmation would be nice | 21:00 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/xsplash/daemon/+merge/11731 | 21:03 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, the second one fails to apply | 21:03 |
| Amaranth | seb128: you applied the other one first? | 21:03 |
| seb128 | yes | 21:03 |
| Amaranth | oh, whoops, I left one out | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=4477f537c43a3abc75aebc8af8ff1f28b8cf36a5 | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | that needs to go before the 85ba one as well | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | the 85ba one is the cause, the other two are cleanups of the code added in that commit | 21:04 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, ok, applied now | 21:04 |
| seb128 | building | 21:04 |
| Amaranth | I think gcc 4.4 must be a lot faster than 4.2 because I remember compiz taking forever to build and it flies now | 21:05 |
| Amaranth | </random> | 21:05 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, that fixes the issue indeed | 21:10 |
| Amaranth | alright, will let danny know and try to find a fix | 21:10 |
| seb128 | thanks | 21:10 |
| Amaranth | if I can't figure anything out I'll see if mvo or robert-ancell can upload a package with those pulled out | 21:10 |
| seb128 | Amaranth, other issue, when triggering the gpg agent twice you get the focus but the decoration is not colored | 21:12 |
| Amaranth | hrm | 21:12 |
| Amaranth | you mean with bzr builddeb? | 21:12 |
| seb128 | ie it comes to frontend but looks like it would not get focus | 21:12 |
| seb128 | start a session | 21:12 |
| seb128 | debsign .changes | 21:12 |
| seb128 | esc | 21:12 |
| seb128 | debsign .changes | 21:12 |
| seb128 | the second call displays the dialog to front | 21:13 |
| Keybuk | bratsche: that looks fine to me | 21:13 |
| seb128 | (it used to be in background, good job to fix that) | 21:13 |
| Keybuk | bratsche: though I'd put the fork() after all the _init () functions | 21:13 |
| seb128 | but the decoration indicates it's not colored | 21:13 |
| seb128 | not sure if that's a clear description | 21:13 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Okay cool. | 21:13 |
| Keybuk | usually you put it at the "if we get this far, everything's ok" point | 21:14 |
| Keybuk | personally I'd put it after you've actually loaded the logo and stuff | 21:14 |
| Keybuk | since that way, "xsplash is ready and has painted the screen" | 21:14 |
| Keybuk | (and thus the next line in the gdm script is run under xsplash | 21:14 |
| bratsche | But wouldn't it be blocking gdm from continuing if I do it that way? | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | which happens to be an Upstart notification in the ubuntu-boot PPA :p) | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | yes | 21:15 |
| Amaranth | seb128: I think I understand | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | but that's not a bad thing | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | for a start, it'd encourage you to make sure it doesn't take you very long at all to display the screen ;) | 21:15 |
| bratsche | I'm trying to keep it quick :) | 21:15 |
| Keybuk | ironically, sometimes it's faster to do things in series than in parallel | 21:16 |
| bratsche | Okay.. I'll shift the fork() stuff until later. | 21:16 |
| Amaranth | the moblin 5 second boot was more focused on making sure things didn't interfere with each other than anything else, from what I could see | 21:17 |
| Keybuk | exactly | 21:17 |
| Keybuk | it so happens that the very next line in that script is "initctl emit ..." | 21:17 |
| Keybuk | which is a signal to upstart that it's ok to start some things now, because gdm is up | 21:17 |
| Amaranth | Keybuk: btw, was there a reason you needed the .tgz of my boot chart or were you asking everyone? | 21:18 |
| Keybuk | Amaranth: I still haven't figured out what the strange "exe" process is at the end of the initramfs | 21:18 |
| Amaranth | ah | 21:18 |
| Amaranth | Keybuk: also, it seems like sreadahead isn't actually doing anything | 21:19 |
| Keybuk | we've been debugging that | 21:19 |
| Amaranth | ah, alright | 21:20 |
| mac_v | Amaranth: wrong , it does something for me , ;) it eats my cpu for 1min after session start :( | 21:20 |
| Amaranth | heh | 21:20 |
| mac_v | Keybuk: is the boot Mailing list an open ML or a canonical one? | 21:21 |
| Keybuk | a Launchpad one | 21:22 |
| mac_v | oh , lp , i'v been searching in the wiki ... | 21:22 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i've just pushed a change to fix the gnome-session upgrade issue | 21:24 |
| Keybuk | mac_v: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-boot | 21:24 |
| chrisccoulson | it's difficult to test properly though without doing a full jaunty-> karmic upgrade | 21:25 |
| mac_v | Keybuk: lol , nice boot ;) | 21:25 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Okay, resubmitting the merge request.. I moved the fork fu until after the resources are loaded. | 21:26 |
| Keybuk | bratsche: looks ok to me | 21:28 |
| mac_v | kenvandine: hi... is this empathy bug fixed> Bug #409828 , or does it need a patch? looking into it it seems that a new image define needs to be created | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 409828 in empathy "Empathy shows wrong icon for notifications" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409828 | 21:29 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: If you don't mind, could you mark it approved on https://code.launchpad.net/~bratsche/xsplash/daemon/+merge/11734 ? David is really into doing the review/merge request procedure. | 21:29 |
| mac_v | s/fixed/commited upstream | 21:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks | 21:30 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, we will see what user testing will do | 21:30 |
| bratsche | Keybuk: Thanks! | 21:31 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - is gnome-system-monitor usable for you? | 22:00 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, define usable | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | it hammers the session bus here causing dbus-daemon to hog the CPU | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | and it won't exit | 22:01 |
| chrisccoulson | other than that, it seems to function ok | 22:01 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no such issue there | 22:02 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, that's odd | 22:03 |
| seb128 | I didn't upgrade that afternoon though | 22:05 |
| seb128 | what signal do you get on the session bus? | 22:05 |
| chrisccoulson | it seems to be repeated calls to org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.List and org.gtk.vfs.MountTracker.listMounts | 22:07 |
| seb128 | could be due to your disks | 22:08 |
| seb128 | or something similar | 22:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll run it in GDB and see if i can figure out whats happening | 22:08 |
| chrisccoulson | ccheney - i only just noticed from my bugmail that dianewalker980 messed up a lot of tasks again on bug 345189 | 22:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 345189 in pidgin "MASTER regression after switching system font size to 13.333 pixel - fonts appear too large in some apps that do hand made font sizing - treating pixel units as point units" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345189 | 22:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i've just requested their account is suspended now | 22:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - gnome-system-monitor here is continuously creating and finalizing volume monitors, although i havent figured out why yet. explains all the dbus spam though ;) | 22:27 |
| ccheney | chrisccoulson: ok | 22:38 |
| * ccheney thinks it should be changed so only bugsquad can change the status | 22:38 | |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - just building the youtube plugin in totem now | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | the BBC iplayer plugin doesn't work though, as it's missing some dependencies | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | python-feedparser, which is in universe | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | and also python-beautifulsoup | 23:03 |
| Laney | beautifulsoup? it does screen scraping? | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney - no idea. but the plugin wouldn't load until i installed it ;) | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney - "error-tolerant HTML parser for Python" | 23:04 |
| * Laney gets suspishus | 23:04 | |
| Laney | there's no proper iPlayer API? | 23:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure really, i haven't had a proper look at it yet | 23:05 |
| Laney | anyway if it relies on something as brittle as that, i'd be a bit dubious | 23:06 |
| Laney | this is all without looking though ;) | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think it's best to just disable it for now. it doesn't work without those dependencies anyway | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i suppose i could move it to totem-plugins-extra | 23:09 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, right, I was going to suggest that too | 23:10 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll do that then - it's working ok with the extra dependencies | 23:10 |
| seb128 | thanks | 23:10 |
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| davmor2 | asac: bug 411476 is still in place and also so is bug 423438 on iso 20090914.2 (just to let you know) | 23:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 411476 in ubuntu-sounds "Firefox 3.5 should not use the ubuntu logout noises as default sounds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/411476 | 23:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 423438 in ubufox "apturl crashed with SyntaxError in unknown()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/423438 | 23:36 |
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