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fluvvellI'm looking for the dev working on ltsp diskless side of mythbuntu. I've thought about offering some help if I can be of any, even if its just trialling and debugging. My test installs haven't cut the mustard but I'd like to know there was someone working on it before I put much time into it.04:27
tgm4883fluvvell, let me poke him and see if he is awake04:31
fluvvellgreat, thanks04:31
tgm4883he is in germany, so it's pretty early in the morning for him right now04:31
fluvvelloh, right. Does he blog - maybe I could read up first?04:32
tgm4883i don't think he blogs04:32
Eggheadtring to setup diskless server in karic, but when i run ltsp-build-client i get the folloeing error W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 /sbin/ldconfig, error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally, any suggestions?04:48
tgm4883fluvvell, he hasn't responded, my guess is he is asleep04:49
fluvvellok, no probs. I was just appreciating your own (hardware) setup, noticed you used a treo. I've been on a palm TX and am considering a Pre when (if) they become available. Are you looking that way at all?04:51
tgm4883nope, when the HTC hero comes out on sprint in Oct, i'm grabbing that04:52
tgm4883the pre didn't really excite me that much04:53
fluvvellsry, realise that its way OT.  Yeah, well its not causing huge ripples anywhere.04:53
fluvvellThanks for the pointer. Looks like someone else noting ltsp stuff. I havn't even dug through any mcc scripts but I've manually chrooted into the /opt/ltsp {directory} structure and added packages or fixed stuff04:57
Eggheadfluvvell, in 9.10?05:01
fluvvellEgghead, yes. Have you used chroot before?05:02
fluvvellEgghead, sorry in 9.0405:02
Eggheadyes and no, just when setting up a diskless client, in hardy and jaunty05:02
fluvvellEgghead, did you have much success in jaunty? I found it hadn't installed much in the way of packages.05:03
Eggheadyes, but i had to everything manually05:04
fluvvellI ended up making a full system on a usb stick, one that I intend to replace with a diskless mix as soon as I can debug the problem.05:04
Eggheadi might go back to it, if i cant figure if out05:05
Eggheadahh yea im using stick to just boot load05:05
Eggheadkarmic has many nice additions though i would like ot stick with it05:05
fluvvellEgghead, any idea how many packages you ended up with? I think on the broken ltsp one I had about 540 and on the full install I ended up with 1500 or so, way more than I need but haven't sorted out the dross yet.05:06
fluvvellEgghead, which additions in particular?05:06
Eggheadin 9.04, from stripped down the /amd64 directory was 1.5 meg, and after loading it up when to about 3.4 i think05:07
Eggheadthe themes and plugins05:07
fluvvellGigabytes I'm assuming?05:07
Eggheadand various proggie i like to add like sysinfo05:07
Eggheadoops yea05:07
fluvvellI think I ended up with about 3.6 or so too.05:08
Eggheadand yea it still booted pretty fast05:09
Eggheadoh well ill try re installing and see if that helps :)05:10
fluvvellI've plugged in a usb riser internally and it boots in 30 seconds or so in 9.0405:10
Eggheadwhat a usb riser?05:11
Eggheadmy usb stick is old, i was thinking of geting some newer ones that have faster read rates05:11
fluvvellwhen you take usb from motherboard to the backplane of the box. I've just strapped it internally to the case.05:11
Eggheadoh ic05:12
fluvvellyeah, well these ones have peaked at about 18Mb/s  but normally about 8Mb/s05:12
fluvvellThe thing is with a gigabit lan you can read at sometimes 22MB per second05:12
Eggheadahh nice05:13
fluvvellSo I want to perservere with the ltsp solution until it works and hopefully help make it better.05:13
Eggheadi was thinking of going gig but the routers are kinda expensive05:13
fluvvellrouters maybe, but straight switches not too bad05:14
Eggheadand some of the hd content is jerky, probably could use gig lan05:14
Eggheadyea but i keep my myth vlan'd from rest of network, so id need a router05:15
fluvvella linux box can serve as a router05:15
Eggheadwhat filled up with nics?05:16
Eggheadhehe05:16
fluvvelljust two05:17
tgm4883Egghead, well yea, or just 2 nics and a switch on one of them05:17
fluvvelland plug a switch05:17
fluvvellyes, thanks tgm488305:17
Eggheadahhh ic05:17
Eggheadi guess it would work to keep to lans seperated05:18
Eggheadi like my router cuz it can vlan and of the 24 ports05:18
fluvvellI also have a 4 port nic which has come in handy, but yeah if you want to seperate them.  Your router probably runs linux anyway !05:18
Eggheadim not sure its an adtran05:19
Eggheadprobably05:19
Eggheadwith your gig lan, you whatch hd videos?05:20
fluvvellyeah, I've watched a trailer or two but not a full length. You should be able to watch HD on 100Mb though.05:23
tgm4883yea, HD plays fine over 100Mb, 1080i and 720p anyway, not sure about 1080p05:24
fluvvellAn h264 encoded HD 1080i uses only about 17Mb/s (whoops got to take daughter for a quick driving lesson) ...05:25
Eggheadyea i start getting small pauses with anthing over 9 gig in size with like a 2hour movie05:26
tgm4883strange, that shouldn't be happening05:26
Eggheadok well talk to ya later fluvvell05:26
Eggheadi thought it was netwotk thoughput05:27
tgm4883well it does sound like you aren't getting data fast enough05:27
Eggheadmight be the file server too, its an amd 1.8 gig, kinda old05:28
tgm4883nope, that should be fine05:28
tgm4883what are your transfer speeds like between the two machines/05:29
Eggheadi dont remeber, i ran i think netstat, but it was a while back05:29
Eggheadi had to rebuild the server a while back, cuz the raid 5 crashed, so now im just running reg drives :)05:30
Eggheadwell goota get some sleep, good talking with ya05:33
Eggheadnight05:34
`oobe`is it true karmic koala wont have stable current version of mythtv only trunk06:14
superm1by the time karmic releases the stable version will be 0.2206:15
`oobe`really they have a eta06:16
`oobe`that seems unlike mythtv developers06:16
superm12-3 weeks06:17
`oobe`do you know if juanty will just upgrade using current mythbuntu repos?06:18
superm1not automatically06:18
superm1we'll be setting up another ppa for 0.2206:18
`oobe`ok nice06:19
`oobe`im using avenard repos though06:19
`oobe`just thought of that06:19
superm1he messed up the epoch i think06:20
superm1so you might have troubles06:20
`oobe`what is epoch06:21
superm1he messed up the version number06:23
superm1his version has a 2: at the start, so it's automatically bigger than anything06:23
`oobe`oh ok06:24
`oobe`i like some of his patches thats why i use it06:24
`oobe`but i find it can be a little buggy with playback of some files06:24
`oobe`also it used to not start backend properly on most boots i had to add a couple of lines to rc.local to make it work properly06:25
`oobe`but recently removed those lines and it starts up fine now06:25
superm1if you want to go to 0.22 and karmic, it would probably be easiest to back up your database, and just install from scratch when karmic releases06:32
`oobe`yea i will most likely end up doing that06:33
`oobe`what if i upgraded juanty > karmic would i end up with .21 packages not upgraded06:34
superm1Yup06:34
superm1if he has a messed up version number, that's what will happen06:34
`oobe`MythTV Version   : 21583-openglvdpau2-nv18006:35
`oobe`is that why once i tried to purge his packages and i ended up not being able to install mythbuntu repos correctly06:37
superm1Yup06:38
`oobe`maybe it will work out cause his site says he will be adding .22 soon06:39
`oobe`plus i want to keep this system as i have a lot of other things configured besides mythtv06:39
superm1well the other thing is you can downgrade packages in synaptic to get back to the right versions06:39
`oobe`so upgrading would be prefered06:39
`oobe`oh ok06:40
superm1either before or after you upgrade to karmic06:40
superm1it's just a little bit of a pain in the ass06:40
Zinnsuperm1: Please watch your language.06:40
`oobe`yeah thats a good point06:40
`oobe`is Zinn  a bot06:40
superm1Yeah06:40
`oobe`thats good06:40
`oobe`i would hate to think a human had that sort of response time06:41
superm1haha06:41
`oobe`and was that vigilant and overzealous06:41
superm1once karmic releases, we'll probably have to get a little snippet response for telling people a one line command to downgrade packages06:41
superm1but we'll need to know the final versions that karmic launches with before we can write such a thing06:41
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`oobe`thanks superm108:11
frbaresiHy12:07
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frbaresiI'm an Mythtv user and I'm an Mythtv user and I'm having a problem with mythVideo. I've searched all documentation and mailing list, but I haven't found a solution for this problem12:34
frbaresiMy problem is the font encoding12:34
frbaresiFor example, if I have a video named "Guimarães" the plugin writes "GuimarÁ£es"12:35
frbaresiany idea?12:35
EssobiMorning.14:24
rhpot1991morning14:57
tschaeferhallo15:29
tschaeferkann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ?15:30
tschaeferhallo15:42
tschaeferKann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ?15:42
superm1english here15:44
superm1otherwise, #mythtv-de15:45
AijseHigh im about to update my mythbuntu front end backend to 9.04. Am I in for a rough night of tweaking or is it mostly pollished by now?16:13
AijseMy front end is allready 9.04 and had initial problems when opening mythtv16:13
rhpot1991Aijse: shouldn't be too many issues, I'd backup your db ahead of time just to be safe though16:29
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jameyany sugestions on how to get sound working in karmic frontend using hdmi?23:52
jameypulse shows stuff on playback tab but nothing showing on output tab23:53

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