[04:27] <fluvvell> I'm looking for the dev working on ltsp diskless side of mythbuntu. I've thought about offering some help if I can be of any, even if its just trialling and debugging. My test installs haven't cut the mustard but I'd like to know there was someone working on it before I put much time into it.
[04:31] <tgm4883> fluvvell, let me poke him and see if he is awake
[04:31] <fluvvell> great, thanks
[04:31] <tgm4883> he is in germany, so it's pretty early in the morning for him right now
[04:32] <fluvvell> oh, right. Does he blog - maybe I could read up first?
[04:32] <tgm4883> i don't think he blogs
[04:48] <Egghead> tring to setup diskless server in karic, but when i run ltsp-build-client i get the folloeing error W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 /sbin/ldconfig, error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally, any suggestions?
[04:49] <tgm4883> fluvvell, he hasn't responded, my guess is he is asleep
[04:51] <fluvvell> ok, no probs. I was just appreciating your own (hardware) setup, noticed you used a treo. I've been on a palm TX and am considering a Pre when (if) they become available. Are you looking that way at all?
[04:52] <tgm4883> nope, when the HTC hero comes out on sprint in Oct, i'm grabbing that
[04:53] <tgm4883> the pre didn't really excite me that much
[04:53] <fluvvell> sry, realise that its way OT.  Yeah, well its not causing huge ripples anywhere.
[04:57] <fluvvell> Thanks for the pointer. Looks like someone else noting ltsp stuff. I havn't even dug through any mcc scripts but I've manually chrooted into the /opt/ltsp {directory} structure and added packages or fixed stuff
[05:01] <Egghead> fluvvell, in 9.10?
[05:02] <fluvvell> Egghead, yes. Have you used chroot before?
[05:02] <fluvvell> Egghead, sorry in 9.04
[05:02] <Egghead> yes and no, just when setting up a diskless client, in hardy and jaunty
[05:03] <fluvvell> Egghead, did you have much success in jaunty? I found it hadn't installed much in the way of packages.
[05:04] <Egghead> yes, but i had to everything manually
[05:04] <fluvvell> I ended up making a full system on a usb stick, one that I intend to replace with a diskless mix as soon as I can debug the problem.
[05:05] <Egghead> i might go back to it, if i cant figure if out
[05:05] <Egghead> ahh yea im using stick to just boot load
[05:05] <Egghead> karmic has many nice additions though i would like ot stick with it
[05:06] <fluvvell> Egghead, any idea how many packages you ended up with? I think on the broken ltsp one I had about 540 and on the full install I ended up with 1500 or so, way more than I need but haven't sorted out the dross yet.
[05:06] <fluvvell> Egghead, which additions in particular?
[05:07] <Egghead> in 9.04, from stripped down the /amd64 directory was 1.5 meg, and after loading it up when to about 3.4 i think
[05:07] <Egghead> the themes and plugins
[05:07] <fluvvell> Gigabytes I'm assuming?
[05:07] <Egghead> and various proggie i like to add like sysinfo
[05:07] <Egghead> oops yea
[05:08] <fluvvell> I think I ended up with about 3.6 or so too.
[05:09] <Egghead> and yea it still booted pretty fast
[05:10] <Egghead> oh well ill try re installing and see if that helps :)
[05:10] <fluvvell> I've plugged in a usb riser internally and it boots in 30 seconds or so in 9.04
[05:11] <Egghead> what a usb riser?
[05:11] <Egghead> my usb stick is old, i was thinking of geting some newer ones that have faster read rates
[05:11] <fluvvell> when you take usb from motherboard to the backplane of the box. I've just strapped it internally to the case.
[05:12] <Egghead> oh ic
[05:12] <fluvvell> yeah, well these ones have peaked at about 18Mb/s  but normally about 8Mb/s
[05:12] <fluvvell> The thing is with a gigabit lan you can read at sometimes 22MB per second
[05:13] <Egghead> ahh nice
[05:13] <fluvvell> So I want to perservere with the ltsp solution until it works and hopefully help make it better.
[05:13] <Egghead> i was thinking of going gig but the routers are kinda expensive
[05:14] <fluvvell> routers maybe, but straight switches not too bad
[05:14] <Egghead> and some of the hd content is jerky, probably could use gig lan
[05:15] <Egghead> yea but i keep my myth vlan'd from rest of network, so id need a router
[05:15] <fluvvell> a linux box can serve as a router
[05:16] <Egghead> what filled up with nics?
[05:16] <Egghead> hehe
[05:17] <fluvvell> just two
[05:17] <tgm4883> Egghead, well yea, or just 2 nics and a switch on one of them
[05:17] <fluvvell> and plug a switch
[05:17] <fluvvell> yes, thanks tgm4883
[05:17] <Egghead> ahhh ic
[05:18] <Egghead> i guess it would work to keep to lans seperated
[05:18] <Egghead> i like my router cuz it can vlan and of the 24 ports
[05:18] <fluvvell> I also have a 4 port nic which has come in handy, but yeah if you want to seperate them.  Your router probably runs linux anyway !
[05:19] <Egghead> im not sure its an adtran
[05:19] <Egghead> probably
[05:20] <Egghead> with your gig lan, you whatch hd videos?
[05:23] <fluvvell> yeah, I've watched a trailer or two but not a full length. You should be able to watch HD on 100Mb though.
[05:24] <tgm4883> yea, HD plays fine over 100Mb, 1080i and 720p anyway, not sure about 1080p
[05:25] <fluvvell> An h264 encoded HD 1080i uses only about 17Mb/s (whoops got to take daughter for a quick driving lesson) ...
[05:26] <Egghead> yea i start getting small pauses with anthing over 9 gig in size with like a 2hour movie
[05:26] <tgm4883> strange, that shouldn't be happening
[05:26] <Egghead> ok well talk to ya later fluvvell
[05:27] <Egghead> i thought it was netwotk thoughput
[05:27] <tgm4883> well it does sound like you aren't getting data fast enough
[05:28] <Egghead> might be the file server too, its an amd 1.8 gig, kinda old
[05:28] <tgm4883> nope, that should be fine
[05:29] <tgm4883> what are your transfer speeds like between the two machines/
[05:29] <Egghead> i dont remeber, i ran i think netstat, but it was a while back
[05:30] <Egghead> i had to rebuild the server a while back, cuz the raid 5 crashed, so now im just running reg drives :)
[05:33] <Egghead> well goota get some sleep, good talking with ya
[05:34] <Egghead> night
[06:14] <`oobe`> is it true karmic koala wont have stable current version of mythtv only trunk
[06:15] <superm1> by the time karmic releases the stable version will be 0.22
[06:16] <`oobe`> really they have a eta
[06:16] <`oobe`> that seems unlike mythtv developers
[06:17] <superm1> 2-3 weeks
[06:18] <`oobe`> do you know if juanty will just upgrade using current mythbuntu repos?
[06:18] <superm1> not automatically
[06:18] <superm1> we'll be setting up another ppa for 0.22
[06:19] <`oobe`> ok nice
[06:19] <`oobe`> im using avenard repos though
[06:19] <`oobe`> just thought of that
[06:20] <superm1> he messed up the epoch i think
[06:20] <superm1> so you might have troubles
[06:21] <`oobe`> what is epoch
[06:23] <superm1> he messed up the version number
[06:23] <superm1> his version has a 2: at the start, so it's automatically bigger than anything
[06:24] <`oobe`> oh ok
[06:24] <`oobe`> i like some of his patches thats why i use it
[06:24] <`oobe`> but i find it can be a little buggy with playback of some files
[06:25] <`oobe`> also it used to not start backend properly on most boots i had to add a couple of lines to rc.local to make it work properly
[06:25] <`oobe`> but recently removed those lines and it starts up fine now
[06:32] <superm1> if you want to go to 0.22 and karmic, it would probably be easiest to back up your database, and just install from scratch when karmic releases
[06:33] <`oobe`> yea i will most likely end up doing that
[06:34] <`oobe`> what if i upgraded juanty > karmic would i end up with .21 packages not upgraded
[06:34] <superm1> Yup
[06:34] <superm1> if he has a messed up version number, that's what will happen
[06:35] <`oobe`> MythTV Version   : 21583-openglvdpau2-nv180
[06:37] <`oobe`> is that why once i tried to purge his packages and i ended up not being able to install mythbuntu repos correctly
[06:38] <superm1> Yup
[06:39] <`oobe`> maybe it will work out cause his site says he will be adding .22 soon
[06:39] <`oobe`> plus i want to keep this system as i have a lot of other things configured besides mythtv
[06:39] <superm1> well the other thing is you can downgrade packages in synaptic to get back to the right versions
[06:39] <`oobe`> so upgrading would be prefered
[06:40] <`oobe`> oh ok
[06:40] <superm1> either before or after you upgrade to karmic
[06:40] <superm1> it's just a little bit of a pain in the ass
[06:40] <Zinn> superm1: Please watch your language.
[06:40] <`oobe`> yeah thats a good point
[06:40] <`oobe`> is Zinn  a bot
[06:40] <superm1> Yeah
[06:40] <`oobe`> thats good
[06:41] <`oobe`> i would hate to think a human had that sort of response time
[06:41] <superm1> haha
[06:41] <`oobe`> and was that vigilant and overzealous
[06:41] <superm1> once karmic releases, we'll probably have to get a little snippet response for telling people a one line command to downgrade packages
[06:41] <superm1> but we'll need to know the final versions that karmic launches with before we can write such a thing
[06:55] <Gumby> !help
[06:55] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[08:11] <`oobe`> thanks superm1
[12:07] <frbaresi> Hy
[12:34] <frbaresi> I'm an Mythtv user and I'm an Mythtv user and I'm having a problem with mythVideo. I've searched all documentation and mailing list, but I haven't found a solution for this problem
[12:34] <frbaresi> My problem is the font encoding
[12:35] <frbaresi> For example, if I have a video named "Guimarães" the plugin writes "GuimarÁ£es"
[12:35] <frbaresi> any idea?
[14:24] <Essobi> Morning.
[14:57] <rhpot1991> morning
[15:29] <tschaefer> hallo
[15:30] <tschaefer> kann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ?
[15:42] <tschaefer> hallo
[15:42] <tschaefer> Kann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ?
[15:44] <superm1> english here
[15:45] <superm1> otherwise, #mythtv-de
[16:13] <Aijse> High im about to update my mythbuntu front end backend to 9.04. Am I in for a rough night of tweaking or is it mostly pollished by now?
[16:13] <Aijse> My front end is allready 9.04 and had initial problems when opening mythtv
[16:29] <rhpot1991> Aijse: shouldn't be too many issues, I'd backup your db ahead of time just to be safe though
[23:52] <jamey> any sugestions on how to get sound working in karmic frontend using hdmi?
[23:53] <jamey> pulse shows stuff on playback tab but nothing showing on output tab