[04:27] I'm looking for the dev working on ltsp diskless side of mythbuntu. I've thought about offering some help if I can be of any, even if its just trialling and debugging. My test installs haven't cut the mustard but I'd like to know there was someone working on it before I put much time into it. [04:31] fluvvell, let me poke him and see if he is awake [04:31] great, thanks [04:31] he is in germany, so it's pretty early in the morning for him right now [04:32] oh, right. Does he blog - maybe I could read up first? [04:32] i don't think he blogs [04:48] tring to setup diskless server in karic, but when i run ltsp-build-client i get the folloeing error W: Failure trying to run: chroot /opt/ltsp/amd64 /sbin/ldconfig, error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally, any suggestions? [04:49] fluvvell, he hasn't responded, my guess is he is asleep [04:51] ok, no probs. I was just appreciating your own (hardware) setup, noticed you used a treo. I've been on a palm TX and am considering a Pre when (if) they become available. Are you looking that way at all? [04:52] nope, when the HTC hero comes out on sprint in Oct, i'm grabbing that [04:53] the pre didn't really excite me that much [04:53] sry, realise that its way OT. Yeah, well its not causing huge ripples anywhere. [04:57] Thanks for the pointer. Looks like someone else noting ltsp stuff. I havn't even dug through any mcc scripts but I've manually chrooted into the /opt/ltsp {directory} structure and added packages or fixed stuff [05:01] fluvvell, in 9.10? [05:02] Egghead, yes. Have you used chroot before? [05:02] Egghead, sorry in 9.04 [05:02] yes and no, just when setting up a diskless client, in hardy and jaunty [05:03] Egghead, did you have much success in jaunty? I found it hadn't installed much in the way of packages. [05:04] yes, but i had to everything manually [05:04] I ended up making a full system on a usb stick, one that I intend to replace with a diskless mix as soon as I can debug the problem. [05:05] i might go back to it, if i cant figure if out [05:05] ahh yea im using stick to just boot load [05:05] karmic has many nice additions though i would like ot stick with it [05:06] Egghead, any idea how many packages you ended up with? I think on the broken ltsp one I had about 540 and on the full install I ended up with 1500 or so, way more than I need but haven't sorted out the dross yet. [05:06] Egghead, which additions in particular? [05:07] in 9.04, from stripped down the /amd64 directory was 1.5 meg, and after loading it up when to about 3.4 i think [05:07] the themes and plugins [05:07] Gigabytes I'm assuming? [05:07] and various proggie i like to add like sysinfo [05:07] oops yea [05:08] I think I ended up with about 3.6 or so too. [05:09] and yea it still booted pretty fast [05:10] oh well ill try re installing and see if that helps :) [05:10] I've plugged in a usb riser internally and it boots in 30 seconds or so in 9.04 [05:11] what a usb riser? [05:11] my usb stick is old, i was thinking of geting some newer ones that have faster read rates [05:11] when you take usb from motherboard to the backplane of the box. I've just strapped it internally to the case. [05:12] oh ic [05:12] yeah, well these ones have peaked at about 18Mb/s but normally about 8Mb/s [05:12] The thing is with a gigabit lan you can read at sometimes 22MB per second [05:13] ahh nice [05:13] So I want to perservere with the ltsp solution until it works and hopefully help make it better. [05:13] i was thinking of going gig but the routers are kinda expensive [05:14] routers maybe, but straight switches not too bad [05:14] and some of the hd content is jerky, probably could use gig lan [05:15] yea but i keep my myth vlan'd from rest of network, so id need a router [05:15] a linux box can serve as a router [05:16] what filled up with nics? [05:16] hehe [05:17] just two [05:17] Egghead, well yea, or just 2 nics and a switch on one of them [05:17] and plug a switch [05:17] yes, thanks tgm4883 [05:17] ahhh ic [05:18] i guess it would work to keep to lans seperated [05:18] i like my router cuz it can vlan and of the 24 ports [05:18] I also have a 4 port nic which has come in handy, but yeah if you want to seperate them. Your router probably runs linux anyway ! [05:19] im not sure its an adtran [05:19] probably [05:20] with your gig lan, you whatch hd videos? [05:23] yeah, I've watched a trailer or two but not a full length. You should be able to watch HD on 100Mb though. [05:24] yea, HD plays fine over 100Mb, 1080i and 720p anyway, not sure about 1080p [05:25] An h264 encoded HD 1080i uses only about 17Mb/s (whoops got to take daughter for a quick driving lesson) ... [05:26] yea i start getting small pauses with anthing over 9 gig in size with like a 2hour movie [05:26] strange, that shouldn't be happening [05:26] ok well talk to ya later fluvvell [05:27] i thought it was netwotk thoughput [05:27] well it does sound like you aren't getting data fast enough [05:28] might be the file server too, its an amd 1.8 gig, kinda old [05:28] nope, that should be fine [05:29] what are your transfer speeds like between the two machines/ [05:29] i dont remeber, i ran i think netstat, but it was a while back [05:30] i had to rebuild the server a while back, cuz the raid 5 crashed, so now im just running reg drives :) [05:33] well goota get some sleep, good talking with ya [05:34] night [06:14] <`oobe`> is it true karmic koala wont have stable current version of mythtv only trunk [06:15] by the time karmic releases the stable version will be 0.22 [06:16] <`oobe`> really they have a eta [06:16] <`oobe`> that seems unlike mythtv developers [06:17] 2-3 weeks [06:18] <`oobe`> do you know if juanty will just upgrade using current mythbuntu repos? [06:18] not automatically [06:18] we'll be setting up another ppa for 0.22 [06:19] <`oobe`> ok nice [06:19] <`oobe`> im using avenard repos though [06:19] <`oobe`> just thought of that [06:20] he messed up the epoch i think [06:20] so you might have troubles [06:21] <`oobe`> what is epoch [06:23] he messed up the version number [06:23] his version has a 2: at the start, so it's automatically bigger than anything [06:24] <`oobe`> oh ok [06:24] <`oobe`> i like some of his patches thats why i use it [06:24] <`oobe`> but i find it can be a little buggy with playback of some files [06:25] <`oobe`> also it used to not start backend properly on most boots i had to add a couple of lines to rc.local to make it work properly [06:25] <`oobe`> but recently removed those lines and it starts up fine now [06:32] if you want to go to 0.22 and karmic, it would probably be easiest to back up your database, and just install from scratch when karmic releases [06:33] <`oobe`> yea i will most likely end up doing that [06:34] <`oobe`> what if i upgraded juanty > karmic would i end up with .21 packages not upgraded [06:34] Yup [06:34] if he has a messed up version number, that's what will happen [06:35] <`oobe`> MythTV Version : 21583-openglvdpau2-nv180 [06:37] <`oobe`> is that why once i tried to purge his packages and i ended up not being able to install mythbuntu repos correctly [06:38] Yup [06:39] <`oobe`> maybe it will work out cause his site says he will be adding .22 soon [06:39] <`oobe`> plus i want to keep this system as i have a lot of other things configured besides mythtv [06:39] well the other thing is you can downgrade packages in synaptic to get back to the right versions [06:39] <`oobe`> so upgrading would be prefered [06:40] <`oobe`> oh ok [06:40] either before or after you upgrade to karmic [06:40] it's just a little bit of a pain in the ass [06:40] superm1: Please watch your language. [06:40] <`oobe`> yeah thats a good point [06:40] <`oobe`> is Zinn a bot [06:40] Yeah [06:40] <`oobe`> thats good [06:41] <`oobe`> i would hate to think a human had that sort of response time [06:41] haha [06:41] <`oobe`> and was that vigilant and overzealous [06:41] once karmic releases, we'll probably have to get a little snippet response for telling people a one line command to downgrade packages [06:41] but we'll need to know the final versions that karmic launches with before we can write such a thing [06:55] !help [06:55] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [08:11] <`oobe`> thanks superm1 [12:07] Hy === gbutters` is now known as gbutters [12:34] I'm an Mythtv user and I'm an Mythtv user and I'm having a problem with mythVideo. I've searched all documentation and mailing list, but I haven't found a solution for this problem [12:34] My problem is the font encoding [12:35] For example, if I have a video named "Guimarães" the plugin writes "GuimarÁ£es" [12:35] any idea? [14:24] Morning. [14:57] morning [15:29] hallo [15:30] kann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ? [15:42] hallo [15:42] Kann mir vieleicht jemand helfen ? [15:44] english here [15:45] otherwise, #mythtv-de [16:13] High im about to update my mythbuntu front end backend to 9.04. Am I in for a rough night of tweaking or is it mostly pollished by now? [16:13] My front end is allready 9.04 and had initial problems when opening mythtv [16:29] Aijse: shouldn't be too many issues, I'd backup your db ahead of time just to be safe though === Jebediah_Springf is now known as Shadow__X === meshe_ is now known as meshe === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [23:52] any sugestions on how to get sound working in karmic frontend using hdmi? [23:53] pulse shows stuff on playback tab but nothing showing on output tab