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ubottujoejc called the ops in #ubuntu ()01:00
nikojoejc use Caps Locks On Every Word script, perphaps it's against your rules01:07
FlannelI should've checked the BT earlier... I had a suspicion he wasn't new like he claimed01:31
Flannelwould've saved us 45 minutes of our lives01:32
ubottuIn ubottu, MenZa said: !youtube is <alias> flash01:44
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (tuntunaung)06:11
Flannelfloodbots are broken?06:12
Flannelhuh, just confused it seems06:12
Myrttiright06:17
MyrttiI managed to catch him copypasting an email to the channel about how to get the ubuntu-myanmar community to himself06:17
Flannelto himself?06:18
Myrttihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/270684/06:19
Myrttithat's how I interpret the last line ;-)06:19
ubottuIn ubottu, jmarsden said: greet is <alias> hi09:19
jussi01!-hi09:42
ubottuhi aliases: howdy, hello, hey, welcome - added by Seveas on 2006-07-11 17:20:2509:42
jussi01!greet is <alias>hi09:42
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, jussi01 said: !greet is <alias>hi09:42
jussi01oh... sigh09:42
jussi01!greet is <alias>hi09:44
Myrttiyay, my xubuntu is broken09:57
Tm_TMyrtti: how?10:35
Myrttipnm2ppa is broken somehow and xubuntu-desktop has broken dependencies10:45
Tm_TMyrtti: Karmic?10:52
Myrttijaunty10:58
Tm_Tsounds weird then10:59
Myrttihelp?11:22
elkywith?11:50
Myrttithe bots, fixed now11:51
elkyjussi01, i wonder, d'ya think it's worth having !hi give out some useful information. maybe the guidelines or something like that?11:52
jussi01!hi12:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ops!12:05
MyrttiI agree12:05
jussi01elky: yes, that makes sense12:05
MyrttiI've been thinking the same for the past week12:06
jussi01!guidelines12:06
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:06
jussi01!hi is <reply>Hi! Welcome to $channel! you can find the channel guidelines at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines12:07
ubottuBut hi already means something else!12:07
jussi01what do you think?12:07
MyrttiCapital Y12:07
Myrtti;-)12:08
elkyor...12:08
MyrttiFor common benefit, please read the channel guidelines at12:08
elky!hi is <reply>Hi! Welcome to $channel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:09
ubottuBut hi already means something else!12:09
elkys/guidelines at/guidelines are at/12:09
jussi01elky: looks good to me.12:12
elky!no hi is <reply>Hi! Welcome to $channel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:12
ubottuI'll remember that elky12:12
elky!hi | jussi0112:12
ubottujussi01: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-opsnel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:12
jussi01-opsnel?12:13
Myrttioops12:13
elkywhat the h...12:13
Myrtti$chan12:13
Myrttinot $channel12:13
elkys/channel/chan/12:13
jussi01heh12:13
elky!no hi is <reply>Hi! Welcome to $chan! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!12:13
jussi01my fault12:13
ubottuI'll remember that elky12:13
elkyjussi01, fails botese 10112:13
jussi01elky: I do that one all the time. never seem to learn12:13
* elky tattoos it to jussi01's forehead12:14
jussi01elky: and how would that help precisely? :D12:14
jussi01forehead isnt best place.... given I hate mirrors.... :D12:14
elkywell your girlfriend would be able to remind you12:15
Myrttieyelids12:15
Myrttiinside12:15
jussi01rofl12:15
Myrttibest place for post-it tattoos12:15
jussi01elky: she might do nasty things to you if you did that :P12:15
Tm_Tkids...12:27
jussi01Just for everyones info, MenZa is now an op in #ubuntu-offtopic - be nice to him. :)13:03
Myrttibrilliant13:03
MyrttiMenZa: condolences13:04
* MenZa waves happily.13:04
* MenZa nods sadly at Myrtti.13:04
Myrttigraah, indus is messing things with his advice so badly13:09
Myrttiwatch out for rekcya in #ubuntu13:10
bazhangawesome :)13:10
Myrtti[15:07] <~rekcya> do you know13:10
Myrtti[15:07] <~rekcya> how to hack13:10
Myrtti[15:07] <~rekcya> ?13:10
ubottuIn ubottu, JonathanElli1 said: !no, ask is Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) Here are some guides on how best to ask your question so you are more likely to get a reply: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LinuxQuestions_org/How_To_Ask_a_Quest13:29
ubottuIn ubottu, JonathanElli1 said: !no, ask is Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) Here are some guides on how best to ask your question so you are more likely to get a reply: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro and http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LinuxQuestions_org/How_To_Ask_13:30
jussi01!ask13:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:31
jussi01yök13:31
Myrttiyeah well13:31
Myrttihe just did ask his question couple of times in #ubuntu13:32
Myrttiit just was too long in one line, and got cut off.13:32
Myrttiirony++13:32
MenZalol13:32
MenZaWasn't the catb.org link in the factoid at one point?13:32
MenZaI remember seeing it used extensively13:32
MenZaIt could've been different sources, but it is a fairly good article.13:33
elkyaw man, we're giving ops to just *anyone* these days!13:36
elky:P13:36
MenZa:P13:36
MenZaHihi, Melissa.13:36
elkyhihi lasse13:37
jussi01MenZa: huh?13:43
* Myrtti gives jussi01 a cookie13:43
MenZajussi01: JonathanElli1's factoid edit submission.13:43
MenZaAnd my English is, yet again, playing up. s/different sources/a different source/13:44
MenZaI blame the low caffeine levels in my system.13:44
jussi01MenZa: I was referencing this: [15:34:42] <MenZa> "Niggemann" has to be one of the worst names, ever.13:44
jussi01where did that come from?13:45
MenZajussi01: the catb.org link. "Kai Niggemann" contributed, apparently.13:45
jussi01o.O13:46
PiciI didnt see a link o.O13:47
MenZaPici: in *here*. JonathanElli1's edit suggestion to !ask.13:47
MenZaI tend to get lost in whatever links I click.13:47
PiciMenZa: oh..13:47
gordhi :)14:09
PiciHi!14:10
bazhangw00t14:13
MenZa\o gord14:19
jussi01Just so everyone has noticed, we have added gord and MenZa to the ops list in #ubuntu-offtopic. please make them feel welcome and help them if they need it :)14:19
Myrttigord: commiserations14:19
* MenZa thinks Myrtti has a /newopohdear alias.14:19
MyrttiMenZa: no, it's just ungrateful job and I can't really fake my opinion that the job has more bad than good days :-<14:20
PiciWell, hopefully our new recruits can change that14:21
Myrttiit would be brilliant if the kids knew how to behave without any ops ;-)14:21
* MenZa pets Myrtti 14:22
MenZaAlas, we don't live in a perfect world, Myrtti.14:22
MyrttiMenZa: which is why I'm the childlike lithmus paper14:22
Myrtti"wouldn't it be brilliant if"14:22
topyli"wouldn't it be nice to get on with me neighbours"14:23
gord"wouldn't it be nice if i had a cake"14:23
bazhang!cake14:24
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cake14:24
Tm_Tkids...14:24
bazhangaww14:24
jussi01!appdb14:26
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help14:26
jussi01grr sorry for the random factoid14:26
Myrttibazhang, noticed that you were one of the people who told jonathan__(?) join ##windows for help - what his question might have also been was "how do I restore GRUB after installing Windows on my dualboot", he just didn't get that far before people jumped to saying he should ask in ##windows14:32
bazhangMyrtti, as was Pici14:33
Myrttithen both of you14:33
Myrttithis is imo on the same level of question as "how do I install ftp server" or "how do I compile C code"14:34
Myrttiyou need to ask why people are asking before giving them any answers14:34
Myrttiin most cases, people who want to install ftp servers just want to share files, which could be done with sftp or some other secure method14:35
bazhangright.14:35
PiciTo be honest, I didn't actually read his question.14:35
PiciGuess thats what I get for assuming that everyone else was correct in thinking that it was an offtopic question.14:35
MyrttiPici: "I need help installing windows"14:35
Myrttiwhich may, or may not be offtopic14:36
bazhanghe mentioned he had ubuntu and wanted to reinstall xp. nary a thing about installing grub14:36
Myrttibazhang: nary?14:36
PiciMyrtti: just a antiquated way of saying 'not'14:37
Myrttia14:37
Myrttianyway, it may just be that if he had known to ask correctly, reinstalling grub would've been the correct question he should've asked14:38
Myrttior was what he really meant14:38
Myrttibut because people jumped into the conclusion that his case goes to ##windows, he got told off by several people, got frustrated, and /parted with some harsh language14:38
bazhangs/antiquated/formal/14:38
* genii makes more coffee14:40
bazhangtold off? honestly? '##windows please'14:41
Picibazhang: I think she means he got told off *in* ##windows14:41
Picior I could be mistaken14:42
bazhangPici, I think it was the xy#$%^ the mint people always help me14:42
Myrttibazhang: that was after he was told by about 6 people to go to ##windows14:42
PiciEveryone makes mistakes, even operators.14:43
bazhangMyrtti, I don't feel I made a mistake here.14:44
bazhangasking politely to go to another channel is not 'jumping on someone'14:44
Myrttibazhang: I'm not saying you individually did a mistake14:45
PiciMyrtti: Did you talk to him, or are we just assuming that he needed grub help?14:45
bazhangMyrtti, thanks for pointing it out; I will be sure to ask carefully next time to allay any possible miscommunications/etc14:46
MyrttiPici: I'm telling what I saw, what it felt like to me, and what might have been the cause of his question, and a reason to his frustration14:46
MyrttiPici: so in short, we're assuming14:46
Myrttiand btw, he quit just when I asked him the question on #ubuntu14:48
Myrttiso I didn't have a chance to get a reply14:48
topyliwindows was involved. see where it leads!14:49
Myrttibazhang: thanks, that was all I really wanted to do, to point out what might have been the root cause of it all - not pointing any finger at you (apart the fact that I didn't notice Pici's nick, otherwise I would've included him as well from the start)14:49
Myrttijust sharing my thoughts on it14:50
bazhangtopyli, haha14:50
bazhangas always appreciated Myrtti14:50
ubottuMcPeter called the ops in #ubuntu ()15:14
PiciLots of French people today16:51
Myrttithat's one of the old ones16:52
Myrttior feels like it16:53
Piciguess so16:57
Myrttiyup, same guy16:57
Myrtti[18:52] [freenode] ~~~Boob_ [n=Boob@42.158.86-79.rev.gaoland.net]16:58
Myrtti[18:53] [freenode] ~~~Julien__ [n=Jullien@79.86.158.42]16:58
Myrttihis typo gave him away16:58
Myrttiaha, he's on new ip17:26
MenZaGuys, would you consider NakidGirl_With_I an offensive nickname?18:04
MenZaI don't see a major problem with it, but a user seems to. I'm looking for some opinions here.18:05
jussi01MenZa: would you put it in front of an 8year old?18:08
MenZaI don't see the nick itself being offensive in any way.18:08
MenZaOf course, I may just be hardened.18:09
MenZaHence the request for second opinions :)18:09
jussi01aye,18:09
MenZaYour call, jussi01? Should I politely ask them to change their nickname in a /query?18:09
Tm_TMenZa: you can ask even if its not offensive (:18:13
Tm_TI do all the time18:13
MenZaFor what purpose, Tm_T?18:14
Tm_Tsometimes I just ask if I think it could be/get offensive18:15
MenZaAh.18:15
MenZaI'll do that, then.18:15
Tm_Tno harm asking18:16
Tm_Tif result is "no" nothing lost18:16
MenZaindeed18:17
MenZaTm_T, jussi01: Took a while for her to respond, but she says she'll change it next login session. Makes sense, as she's got about three or four tickets going in #ubuntu right now, so it'd get confusing if she decided to change it right now.18:30
Tm_Taye18:31
Tm_Tif he likes to change her nick, then all good, I'm not easily pushing people to do that though18:32
Tm_The/she/it18:32
MenZaindeed18:33
Piciugh19:08
MyrttiI can't believe what I'm seeing19:08
MyrttiI'll start kicking people on first sight19:09
Myrtticould someone more impartial than me ask her to change her nick and refrain from making "I'm naked" comments19:11
MyrttiI'm not really coping with her nick anymore19:12
Myrttialso, has anyone talked to popey lately about the fate of ubuntu tweak?19:15
Myrttiwasn't he going to discuss it over with the creator?19:15
PriceyMyrtti: who where?19:16
PiciNakidGirl_With_I19:16
PriceyMyrtti: ah, nakidgrl_blah?19:16
Myrttiyes19:16
MyrttiI'm grinding my teeth to sand after the "I'm naked" "omg pics" convo19:17
Myrttishe did tell them politely to get lost, but still19:17
Pici'she'19:17
PriceyMyrtti: I've just looked at backlog, nothing wrong with her conduct is there? Just the name, and therefore the responses they're getting?19:17
Myrttiwhatever. I'll go to bed so I don't need to witness this and you don't need to do a thing19:19
geniiPici: Damn, beat me to the !ot19:46
PiciMyrtti beat me to the no politics19:47
Myrttiyeah, couldn't sleep yet19:47
Priceymove to PM19:48
Seeker`_nalioth: please can you prod mootbot logs please21:02
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ubottuguntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest21216 offensive language)21:50
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest21216  I think has attitude has gone on long enough now)21:50

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