[01:00] joejc called the ops in #ubuntu () [01:07] joejc use Caps Locks On Every Word script, perphaps it's against your rules [01:31] I should've checked the BT earlier... I had a suspicion he wasn't new like he claimed [01:32] would've saved us 45 minutes of our lives [01:44] In ubottu, MenZa said: !youtube is flash [06:11] sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (tuntunaung) [06:12] floodbots are broken? [06:12] huh, just confused it seems [06:17] right [06:17] I managed to catch him copypasting an email to the channel about how to get the ubuntu-myanmar community to himself [06:18] to himself? [06:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/270684/ [06:19] that's how I interpret the last line ;-) [09:19] In ubottu, jmarsden said: greet is hi [09:42] !-hi [09:42] hi aliases: howdy, hello, hey, welcome - added by Seveas on 2006-07-11 17:20:25 [09:42] !greet is hi [09:42] In #ubuntu-ops, jussi01 said: !greet is hi [09:42] oh... sigh [09:44] !greet is hi [09:57] yay, my xubuntu is broken [10:35] Myrtti: how? [10:45] pnm2ppa is broken somehow and xubuntu-desktop has broken dependencies [10:52] Myrtti: Karmic? [10:58] jaunty [10:59] sounds weird then [11:22] help? [11:50] with? [11:51] the bots, fixed now [11:52] jussi01, i wonder, d'ya think it's worth having !hi give out some useful information. maybe the guidelines or something like that? [12:05] !hi [12:05] Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-ops! [12:05] I agree [12:05] elky: yes, that makes sense [12:06] I've been thinking the same for the past week [12:06] !guidelines [12:06] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [12:07] !hi is Hi! Welcome to $channel! you can find the channel guidelines at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [12:07] But hi already means something else! [12:07] what do you think? [12:07] Capital Y [12:08] ;-) [12:08] or... [12:08] For common benefit, please read the channel guidelines at [12:09] !hi is Hi! Welcome to $channel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:09] But hi already means something else! [12:09] s/guidelines at/guidelines are at/ [12:12] elky: looks good to me. [12:12] !no hi is Hi! Welcome to $channel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:12] I'll remember that elky [12:12] !hi | jussi01 [12:12] jussi01: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu-opsnel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:13] -opsnel? [12:13] oops [12:13] what the h... [12:13] $chan [12:13] not $channel [12:13] s/channel/chan/ [12:13] heh [12:13] !no hi is Hi! Welcome to $chan! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [12:13] my fault [12:13] I'll remember that elky [12:13] jussi01, fails botese 101 [12:13] elky: I do that one all the time. never seem to learn [12:14] * elky tattoos it to jussi01's forehead [12:14] elky: and how would that help precisely? :D [12:14] forehead isnt best place.... given I hate mirrors.... :D [12:15] well your girlfriend would be able to remind you [12:15] eyelids [12:15] inside [12:15] rofl [12:15] best place for post-it tattoos [12:15] elky: she might do nasty things to you if you did that :P [12:27] kids... [13:03] Just for everyones info, MenZa is now an op in #ubuntu-offtopic - be nice to him. :) [13:03] brilliant [13:04] MenZa: condolences [13:04] * MenZa waves happily. [13:04] * MenZa nods sadly at Myrtti. [13:09] graah, indus is messing things with his advice so badly [13:10] watch out for rekcya in #ubuntu [13:10] awesome :) [13:10] [15:07] <~rekcya> do you know [13:10] [15:07] <~rekcya> how to hack [13:10] [15:07] <~rekcya> ? [13:29] In ubottu, JonathanElli1 said: !no, ask is Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) Here are some guides on how best to ask your question so you are more likely to get a reply: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LinuxQuestions_org/How_To_Ask_a_Quest [13:30] In ubottu, JonathanElli1 said: !no, ask is Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) Here are some guides on how best to ask your question so you are more likely to get a reply: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro and http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LinuxQuestions_org/How_To_Ask_ [13:31] !ask [13:31] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [13:31] yök [13:31] yeah well [13:32] he just did ask his question couple of times in #ubuntu [13:32] it just was too long in one line, and got cut off. [13:32] irony++ [13:32] lol [13:32] Wasn't the catb.org link in the factoid at one point? [13:32] I remember seeing it used extensively [13:33] It could've been different sources, but it is a fairly good article. [13:36] aw man, we're giving ops to just *anyone* these days! [13:36] :P [13:36] :P [13:36] Hihi, Melissa. [13:37] hihi lasse [13:43] MenZa: huh? [13:43] * Myrtti gives jussi01 a cookie [13:43] jussi01: JonathanElli1's factoid edit submission. [13:44] And my English is, yet again, playing up. s/different sources/a different source/ [13:44] I blame the low caffeine levels in my system. [13:44] MenZa: I was referencing this: [15:34:42] "Niggemann" has to be one of the worst names, ever. [13:45] where did that come from? [13:45] jussi01: the catb.org link. "Kai Niggemann" contributed, apparently. [13:46] o.O [13:47] I didnt see a link o.O [13:47] Pici: in *here*. JonathanElli1's edit suggestion to !ask. [13:47] I tend to get lost in whatever links I click. [13:47] MenZa: oh.. [14:09] hi :) [14:10] Hi! [14:13] w00t [14:19] \o gord [14:19] Just so everyone has noticed, we have added gord and MenZa to the ops list in #ubuntu-offtopic. please make them feel welcome and help them if they need it :) [14:19] gord: commiserations [14:19] * MenZa thinks Myrtti has a /newopohdear alias. [14:20] MenZa: no, it's just ungrateful job and I can't really fake my opinion that the job has more bad than good days :-< [14:21] Well, hopefully our new recruits can change that [14:21] it would be brilliant if the kids knew how to behave without any ops ;-) [14:22] * MenZa pets Myrtti [14:22] Alas, we don't live in a perfect world, Myrtti. [14:22] MenZa: which is why I'm the childlike lithmus paper [14:22] "wouldn't it be brilliant if" [14:23] "wouldn't it be nice to get on with me neighbours" [14:23] "wouldn't it be nice if i had a cake" [14:24] !cake [14:24] Sorry, I don't know anything about cake [14:24] kids... [14:24] aww [14:26] !appdb [14:26] The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help [14:26] grr sorry for the random factoid [14:32] bazhang, noticed that you were one of the people who told jonathan__(?) join ##windows for help - what his question might have also been was "how do I restore GRUB after installing Windows on my dualboot", he just didn't get that far before people jumped to saying he should ask in ##windows [14:33] Myrtti, as was Pici [14:33] then both of you [14:34] this is imo on the same level of question as "how do I install ftp server" or "how do I compile C code" [14:34] you need to ask why people are asking before giving them any answers [14:35] in most cases, people who want to install ftp servers just want to share files, which could be done with sftp or some other secure method [14:35] right. [14:35] To be honest, I didn't actually read his question. [14:35] Guess thats what I get for assuming that everyone else was correct in thinking that it was an offtopic question. [14:35] Pici: "I need help installing windows" [14:36] which may, or may not be offtopic [14:36] he mentioned he had ubuntu and wanted to reinstall xp. nary a thing about installing grub [14:36] bazhang: nary? [14:37] Myrtti: just a antiquated way of saying 'not' [14:37] a [14:38] anyway, it may just be that if he had known to ask correctly, reinstalling grub would've been the correct question he should've asked [14:38] or was what he really meant [14:38] but because people jumped into the conclusion that his case goes to ##windows, he got told off by several people, got frustrated, and /parted with some harsh language [14:38] s/antiquated/formal/ [14:40] * genii makes more coffee [14:41] told off? honestly? '##windows please' [14:41] bazhang: I think she means he got told off *in* ##windows [14:42] or I could be mistaken [14:42] Pici, I think it was the xy#$%^ the mint people always help me [14:42] bazhang: that was after he was told by about 6 people to go to ##windows [14:43] Everyone makes mistakes, even operators. [14:44] Myrtti, I don't feel I made a mistake here. [14:44] asking politely to go to another channel is not 'jumping on someone' [14:45] bazhang: I'm not saying you individually did a mistake [14:45] Myrtti: Did you talk to him, or are we just assuming that he needed grub help? [14:46] Myrtti, thanks for pointing it out; I will be sure to ask carefully next time to allay any possible miscommunications/etc [14:46] Pici: I'm telling what I saw, what it felt like to me, and what might have been the cause of his question, and a reason to his frustration [14:46] Pici: so in short, we're assuming [14:48] and btw, he quit just when I asked him the question on #ubuntu [14:48] so I didn't have a chance to get a reply [14:49] windows was involved. see where it leads! [14:49] bazhang: thanks, that was all I really wanted to do, to point out what might have been the root cause of it all - not pointing any finger at you (apart the fact that I didn't notice Pici's nick, otherwise I would've included him as well from the start) [14:50] just sharing my thoughts on it [14:50] topyli, haha [14:50] as always appreciated Myrtti [15:14] McPeter called the ops in #ubuntu () [16:51] Lots of French people today [16:52] that's one of the old ones [16:53] or feels like it [16:57] guess so [16:57] yup, same guy [16:58] [18:52] [freenode] ~~~Boob_ [n=Boob@42.158.86-79.rev.gaoland.net] [16:58] [18:53] [freenode] ~~~Julien__ [n=Jullien@79.86.158.42] [16:58] his typo gave him away [17:26] aha, he's on new ip [18:04] Guys, would you consider NakidGirl_With_I an offensive nickname? [18:05] I don't see a major problem with it, but a user seems to. I'm looking for some opinions here. [18:08] MenZa: would you put it in front of an 8year old? [18:08] I don't see the nick itself being offensive in any way. [18:09] Of course, I may just be hardened. [18:09] Hence the request for second opinions :) [18:09] aye, [18:09] Your call, jussi01? Should I politely ask them to change their nickname in a /query? [18:13] MenZa: you can ask even if its not offensive (: [18:13] I do all the time [18:14] For what purpose, Tm_T? [18:15] sometimes I just ask if I think it could be/get offensive [18:15] Ah. [18:15] I'll do that, then. [18:16] no harm asking [18:16] if result is "no" nothing lost [18:17] indeed [18:30] Tm_T, jussi01: Took a while for her to respond, but she says she'll change it next login session. Makes sense, as she's got about three or four tickets going in #ubuntu right now, so it'd get confusing if she decided to change it right now. [18:31] aye [18:32] if he likes to change her nick, then all good, I'm not easily pushing people to do that though [18:32] he/she/it [18:33] indeed [19:08] ugh [19:08] I can't believe what I'm seeing [19:09] I'll start kicking people on first sight [19:11] could someone more impartial than me ask her to change her nick and refrain from making "I'm naked" comments [19:12] I'm not really coping with her nick anymore [19:15] also, has anyone talked to popey lately about the fate of ubuntu tweak? [19:15] wasn't he going to discuss it over with the creator? [19:16] Myrtti: who where? [19:16] NakidGirl_With_I [19:16] Myrtti: ah, nakidgrl_blah? [19:16] yes [19:17] I'm grinding my teeth to sand after the "I'm naked" "omg pics" convo [19:17] she did tell them politely to get lost, but still [19:17] 'she' [19:17] Myrtti: I've just looked at backlog, nothing wrong with her conduct is there? Just the name, and therefore the responses they're getting? [19:19] whatever. I'll go to bed so I don't need to witness this and you don't need to do a thing [19:46] Pici: Damn, beat me to the !ot [19:47] Myrtti beat me to the no politics [19:47] yeah, couldn't sleep yet [19:48] move to PM [21:02] nalioth: please can you prod mootbot logs please === Seeker`_ is now known as Seeker` [21:50] guntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest21216 offensive language) [21:50] sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (Guest21216 I think has attitude has gone on long enough now)