[00:16] <mm_202> Hi guys, what's the best/easiest way to get Kontact (calendar,contacts) to play with Gmail contacts/calendar?
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> Has anybody gotten xrdp working with an existing X session?
[00:23] <James147> mm_202: I am also intrested in this, but havent yet tryed anything, will call you if i find anything out
[00:24] <mm_202> James147: I will do the same.  Im looking at simply adding Gmail via IMAP and seeing if I can get the contacts/calendar via IMAP.  If not I will try gCal.
[00:31] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[00:33] <Spaceman> right click the K and select "Menu Editor" then delete Favourites
[00:35] <nike> greetings
[00:36] <nike> anybody???
[00:41] <nike> ok, I have a question. I am new. I download Wubi but it will download the amd64 version of Ubuntu...
[00:41] <nike> any help?
[00:42] <Spaceman> what's the problem?
[00:43] <nike> I download Wubi but it will download the amd64 version of Ubuntu...
[00:44] <James147> nike why dont you want the 64 bit version?
[00:44] <nike> Would it work on my Intel core 2?
[00:44] <nike> I tried and did not run
[00:44] <James147> with what error?
[00:44] <nike> oops
[00:44] <nike> i forgot
[00:44] <nike> ok, I will do my homework
[00:44] <nike> thanks
[00:57] <nositelicense>  /join #slackware
[00:59] <darthreality> not quite
[01:12] <isaac_> Anyone here?
[01:12] <James147> isaac_: Lots of ppl are
[01:13] <isaac_> Heh, I'm in need of assistance. Anyone willing to help?
[01:13] <James147> isaac_: Just ask your question, if someone knows they will answer
[01:14] <isaac_> Just yesterday I started using Ubuntu, I'm completely new to everything and can't seem to figure out how to download flash player..
[01:14] <isaac_> I've looked up guides and everything, but they didn't seem to work..
[01:15] <isaac_> I'm on a virtual OS using VirtualBox if this helps answer my question.
[01:15] <James147> isaac_: just install flashplugin-installer from a package managemnt program like kpackagekit
[01:17] <genesis> hi
[01:17] <James147> isaac_: or kubuntu-restricted-extras if you want suff like mp3 support as well
[01:18] <isaac_> Wow, thanks.
[01:18] <isaac_> Working right now.
[01:18] <isaac_> Ubuntu is awesome so far(:
[01:18] <isaac_> TOTALLY different from Windows..
[01:18] <James147> isaac_: and better is so many ways :)
[01:19] <genesis> where is my computer here
[01:19] <genesis> in kubuntu
[01:19] <James147> genesis: Dont understand?
[01:19] <James147> genesis: Do you mean why is your computer here?
[01:20] <isaac_> Any other cool apps to have, I have got konsole and konversation (obviously.)
[01:21] <genesis> i want to know how i can enter to my computer in kubuntu (this is a option in operattive system
[01:21] <James147> isaac_: Gimp is a nice photoshot replacment if you ever use that
[01:22] <isaac_> Came with Ubuntu methinks..
[01:22] <James147> isaac_: Dont think gimp is installed by default on kubuntu
[01:22] <nositelicense>  isaac_:  MC for console file management
[01:22] <isaac_> Got chromium because I cant live without chrome(:
[01:25] <ali_> Hello
[01:26] <ali_> Salt
[01:26] <ali_> Salut
[01:26] <ali_> quelqun?
[01:32] <isaac_> Hmmm, still not letting me view youtube videos.
[01:32] <isaac_> Still says I have flashplayer turned off or out-dated.
[01:33] <isaac_> I got the Flash played plugin installer package.. Thing..
[01:35] <James147> isaac_: in what browser?
[01:35] <isaac_> oh.
[01:35] <isaac_> Chromium.
[01:36] <James147> isaac_: hmm, it should work, but havent used chromium on linux... try it in konq and firefox just to see if it works at all
[01:37] <isaac_> Alright
[01:38] <ali_> Has anyone of you used parley for learning languages?
[01:38] <ali_> i am using ubuntu and i have problems with practicing adjectives
[01:38] <nositelicense> heh
[01:40] <bogdan> anybody able to help w/sopcast?
[01:50] <koh_> http://h20223.www2.hp.com/enterprise/cache/383666-0-0-0-121.html
[01:51] <koh_> can i use any of these drivers on my Tc4400?
[01:52] <omnipotentduo> is anyone else having the issue w/ 64bit proprietary flash driver, video no sound?
[01:53] <James147> omnipotentduo: I had while useing other autio programs like amarok,
[01:54] <James147> omnipotentduo: reinstalled flash many times as well, but not running amarok worked :)
[01:55] <omnipotentduo> amarok is closed
[01:55] <omnipotentduo> restarted fire fox, that worked
[01:55] <omnipotentduo> this is retarted, w/ slack i didn't have this problem
[01:56] <James147> omnipotentduo: yeah, dont know whys its been like this for so long :(
[01:56] <omnipotentduo> i am thinking about moving back to slack.
[02:02] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[02:03] <alvin> Help
[02:03] <James147> alvin: with want? we cant help if we dont know whats wrong
[02:04] <alvin> i cant play mp3 file in my kubuntu
[02:04] <James147> alvin do you have kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[02:05] <alvin> no, James
[02:05] <quietshaman> HELP!  everytime I try to use sudo, i get msh "Must be setuid root" What am I doing wrong...a newby to Linux
[02:06] <James147> alvin: you need to isntall kubuntu-restricted-extras to get mp3 support
[02:07] <omnipotentduo> quietshaman: when you installed kubuntu did you set yourself as a system administrator?
[02:07] <quietshaman> Also...can't get into kuser to inspect/change user info without using sudo...Catch 22. Can anyone advise please???
[02:07] <quietshaman> Omni...yes as admin.
[02:07] <alvin> how James? It's the first time I use Kubuntu
[02:08] <omnipotentduo> quietshaman: try simply sudo su
[02:08] <omnipotentduo> and paste bin what it says
[02:08] <quietshaman> got the sam error msg..."must be setuid to root"
[02:09] <quietshaman> "sudo: must be setuid root" is a psate of the error msg
[02:09] <James147> alvin: type into konsole (or anyother terminal application) "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:10] <James147> alvin: without the quotes :)
[02:10] <omnipotentduo> that means you missed something in the install for the administrator
[02:10] <James147> alvin: answer y to any questions
[02:10] <alvin> yes
[02:10] <alvin> i'm doing
[02:10] <quietshaman> Do I need to go back and do a reinstall AGAIN?
[02:11] <quietshaman> Is there a way to log on as root?
[02:11] <James147> alvin: after you will have it installed, you will need to restart any application that uses mp3s (amarok)
[02:11] <omnipotentduo> quietshaman: yes, ctrl+alt+f1 and you are in tty
[02:11] <omnipotentduo> and that will allow a root logon
[02:11] <James147> quietshaman: think you can do it through the recovery console
[02:12] <James147> omnipotentduo: su root will also log you in as root in konsole or anyother terminal
[02:12] <asdqwe> winbox on kubuntu?.
[02:12]  * omnipotentduo is a slack abuser, getting used to the spoonfed lifestyle
[02:12] <alvin> Thank James, I got it
[02:13] <omnipotentduo> good to know tho
[02:13] <quietshaman> I'll try the ctl+alt+F1 first...if that does not work I'll do a Recovery boot...thanks Omni and James
[02:13] <James147> quietshaman: you dont need to ctrl+alt+f1
[02:14] <James147> quietshaman: to login as root from any promt do su root (or even just su i think)
[02:14] <James147> quietshaman: need the root password though
[02:39] <Lillymon> I've got a Kopete Notification stuck here. It won't go away no matter what I do, clicking View or Ignore has no effect. How do I kill it without killing Plasma along with the thing?
[02:40] <madberry> Lillymon: what is does the notification say?
[02:41] <Lillymon> Incoming message from a user, part of the message, View and Ignore buttons. It's just a standard Kopete notification that I see a lot of, but it came up at a time when Plasma was under extreme load, and now neither option will do anything at all.
[02:41] <omnipotentduo> restart your X
[02:42] <Lillymon> I think that's a bit extreme, restarting Plasma would be my first recourse. But I want to see if I can just kill and restart the notification part.
[02:42] <madberry> what omnipotentduo said lol
[02:43] <omnipotentduo> i had the same problem i restarted x fixed it.
[02:44] <Lillymon> Restarting Plasma fixed it. Still seemed like cracking a walnut with a sledgehammer, but whatever.
[02:45] <omnipotentduo> the other fix is unloading your bar, and then rebuild it
[02:45] <omnipotentduo> or just your sys tray
[02:46] <madberry> It should properly be added to Kubuntu's papercut list
[02:46] <Lillymon> Well ideally the notification applet should just not freeze, but hey, maybe KDE 4.3 will do it. I'm on KDE 4.2 here.
[02:47] <omnipotentduo> dunno if it does it in 3, haven't had it happen yet.
[02:48] <Lillymon> I was told that the notification applet in KDE 4.2 is in a relatively immature state, hence its inflexibility and occasional instability.
[02:48] <omnipotentduo> 4.3 is the greatest kde EVER
[02:48] <madberry> Actually I'm running 9.10, which has KDE 4.3.1, here it doesn't freeze but it stays in the notifier until you decide to cancel the notification.
[02:49] <Laruft> is there a better file manager than dolphin or konquerer?
[02:49] <omnipotentduo> dolphin
[02:49] <Lillymon> I think Kopete notifications usually stay until you take an action to view or ignore. The problem was that my notification wouldn't do anything no matter what option I took.
[02:50] <Lillymon> Also, I am looking forward to KDE 4.3 myself. How is Karmic coming along? Is it pretty stable now?
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> You can get 4.3 for 9.04 from the backports PPA
[02:51] <Gratz474> how can i tell if i am using exa or xaa?
[02:51] <Gratz474> i had this problem once before and had to turn on xaa
[02:51] <madberry> Lillymon: It is but the Firefox 3.5.4pre still has a lot of problems that is the only thing my laptop will freeze on every once in a while. Other then that it's been pretty stable.
[02:52] <Gratz474> many sites in firefox are really slow and kde4 just feels a bit slow right now
[02:52] <Gratz474> any idea how i can set xaa rendering on ?
[02:52] <omnipotentduo> only if you dont thin out the kde extras
[02:52] <Lillymon> I've always been wary of backports. People say it's OK if I just revert the changes, but then I ask how to do that, and get a load of instructions for Synaptic. Yeah, very helpful for this KPackageKit user.
[02:53] <Lillymon> I get the impression the PPA may interfere with future upgrades.
[02:54] <Lillymon> But with Karmic less than a month off and having passed both feature freeze and user interface freeze, I'm starting to wonder how unstable it could possibly be.
[02:54] <Gratz474> anyone?
[02:55] <madberry> Lillymon: Like I said it only freezes on Firefox for me at the moment
[02:55] <madberry> Gratz474: on emoment please
[02:55] <omnipotentduo> that happens when closing a flash player for me
[02:55] <Lillymon> Well alpha 6 is two days away, I might make my switch at that point.
[02:56] <Gratz474> madberry: thanks
[02:56] <Gratz474> i had kde4 working fast once but this crappy intel is not so good anyways buts its very laggy right now, its a rendering issue
[02:57] <Gratz474> not sure if i have exa on or xaa right now
[02:57] <madberry> Gratz474: try this http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=23190#p30101
[02:57] <Lillymon> Also, I keep forgetting to ask. What's the best way to upgrade from to Karmic in Kubuntu? Should I install update-manager?
[02:58] <madberry> Lillymon: I'm a fan of the clean install personally.  But in tests the update-manager has always worked fine.
[02:58] <Gratz474> madberry: lets see how that works
[02:59] <madberry> Gratz474: YW
[02:59] <madberry> oops lol didn't mean to shout that
[02:59] <Lillymon> Well I always make sure to burn a CD, just to be sure. But I try upgrading first.
[03:00] <madberry> Lillymon: If you have issues after the upgrade you can always do a clean install.  Make sure to run a backup before doing anything
[03:03] <Lillymon> Right, I might give my (now working) USB flash drive a go with this one. Thanks for the help.
[03:03] <madberry> Lillymon: yw
[03:06] <brennan_> i cant update to a new version of wine on my comp what do i do???
[03:07] <omnipotentduo> what?
[03:08] <brennan_> you know wine ? well i cant get a new one on my computer
[03:08] <madberry> brennan_: Why do you get an error?
[03:08] <brennan_> i dont know
[03:09] <madberry> brennan_: are you using synaptec or adept?
[03:09] <brennan_> i dont know
[03:09] <Planetary> hello, I want to install startrek armada2.bin and i am having trouble. i did these steps from http://www.ehow.com/how_4578189_install-bin-file-ubuntu-linux.html and after teh last step it says ' cannot execute binary file. dont know waht to do
[03:10] <brennan_> planetary what is startrek...bin?
[03:11] <Planetary> its star trek armada 2 the game
[03:11] <madberry> Planetary: Is that a Windoes bin?
[03:11] <brennan_> i dont know i typed sudo apt-get update install          and it said E: the update command takes no arguments
[03:12] <brennan_> ... mad
[03:12] <madberry> brennan_: try sudo apt-get update with out the install
[03:12] <madberry> brennan_: then run sudo apt-get upgrade to upgrade
[03:12] <Planetary> madberry, yes
[03:13] <omnipotentduo> Planetary: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-832169.html
[03:13] <madberry> Planetary: you need Wine for that and even after installing Wine it might still not work
[03:13] <brennan_> how do you highlight who your talking to
[03:14] <madberry> you type the username of who you are talking to madberry
[03:14] <omnipotentduo> brennan_: type their name
[03:14] <brennan_> madberry ..\
[03:14] <madberry> brennan_: yes
[03:14] <brennan_> madberry_: ..\
[03:14] <brennan_> did you see it?
[03:15] <madberry> yes
[03:15] <brennan_> madberry    cool
[03:15] <madberry> brennan_: yeah
[03:15] <Planetary> i have wine installed. this is just a file. i lost the disc
[03:15] <brennan_> madberry it says 2 wine
[03:16] <madberry> brennan_: did it work?
[03:16] <brennan_> madberry its still goin
[03:16] <madberry> brennan_: cool
[03:17] <brennan_> madberry im getting bugs in it
[03:17] <madberry> brennan_: what are the bugs?
[03:17] <brennan_> madberry that mean it wont work
[03:17] <Planetary> madberry, i have wine installed. this is just a file i have. i lost the cd
[03:18] <brennan_> jaunty main wine gecko
[03:18] <madberry> Planetary: are you trying to run the .bin?
[03:18] <madberry> brennan_: I need the full error message
[03:18] <brennan_> madberry the version is 1.0.0
[03:19] <brennan_> what the new version?
[03:20] <madberry> brennan_: see winehq for that one http://www.winehq.org
[03:21] <Planetary> madberry yes
[03:22] <madberry> Planetary: you need to run the file with Wine
[03:22] <Planetary> ok refresh my memory on how to do that
[03:22] <madberry> Planetary: if I remember correctly it's  wine filename.bin in Konsole
[03:23] <Planetary> ok
[03:25] <Planetary> madberry, i get ..  wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Armada2.bin": Module not found
[03:25] <madberry> Planetary: try it with specifying the full path to the bin file
[03:26] <Planetary> ~$ wine ~/Desktop/Armada2.bin
[03:26] <Planetary> wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\alex\\Desktop\\Armada2.bin": Bad EXE format for
[03:27] <madberry> oke now you need to surf to the winehq website to see if there is any info on you bin
[03:27] <madberry> !wine | Planetary
[03:29] <Planetary> still no go madberry
[03:30] <Planetary> I did !wine file path and !wine | filepath
[03:30] <madberry> !AppDB Armada2.bin
[03:31] <madberry> Planetary: I think you need to join #winehq and ask there this is where my knowledge of wine ends
[03:31] <Planetary> ok thanks
[03:32] <madberry> yw
[03:32] <brennan_> madberry once ive downloaded the newest version of wine what do i do
[03:32] <brennan_> ?
[03:32] <madberry> brennan_: follow the instructions on the website
[03:34] <brennan_> madberry there is no instructions
[03:36] <madberry> brennan_: see http://u.q3w.org/CE
[03:40] <bobthemil> Does KDE handle font configurations in some way that it ignores the subpixel rendering information from .fonts.conf?
[03:41] <brennan_> i have ubuntu 9.04 and i dont know which base to download
[03:47] <Glebe> anyone have a guildwars friend invite
[04:03] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:05] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:06] <skreech> Hello
[04:08] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:10] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:11] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:12] <skreech> I'm having an issue where Arora doesn't start a process when I start it
[04:13] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:16] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:18] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:18] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:22] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:23] <scm422> Anybody here know if there is a version of the program called WIZNET for Kubuntu?
[04:24] <Glebe> anyone have a guildwars friend invite
[04:25] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:27] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:29] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:31] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:34] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:35] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:37] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:41] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:44] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:48] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:49] <Glebe> anyone have a guildwars friend invite
[04:49] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[04:49] <Paddy_NI> What would be a more native kde embedded video player for konqueror as it is currently using gecko-mediaplayer
[04:51] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:54] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[04:58] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:00] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:01] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:01] <Brhad56> What day does 9.10 comes out?
[05:04] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:07] <madberry> Brhad56: October 29th
[05:09] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:11] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:12] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:15] <skreech> Can someone please kill that bot?
[05:15] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:17] <skreech> Brhad56: It always comes out on the last Thursday of the month that it's named after
[05:17] <madberry> skreech: The bot will keep doing that until it doesn't detect the netsplit anymore
[05:17] <skreech> It's netsplitting itself
[05:17] <skreech> Kill the bot and save the world
[05:19] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:21] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:22] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:24] <Joe__> anyone using 9.10 have problems with the latest updates?
[05:26] <madberry> Joe__: Please join #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 questions
[05:26] <Joe__> kk
[05:26] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:27] <skreech> please can we mute the bot?
[05:29] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:30] <madberry> skreech: Only an op can do that
[05:30] <madberry> skreech: try the ignore option
[05:30] <maco> oh dear
[05:31] <maco>  /msg chanserv op #kubuntu
[05:31] <maco> not the one i wanted
[05:31] <maco>  /msg chanserv op #kubuntu
[05:31] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:31] <maco> im so confused!
[05:31] <maco> i typed /mute :(
[05:32] <maco> ok lets see what happens now
[05:32]  * maco waits
[05:34] <madberry> !ops netsplit
[05:34] <skreech> madberry: It;s more like !ops | FloodBotK1 You are going to get it now
[05:34] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:37] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:39] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:39] <skreech> !ops
[05:40] <skreech> Sick of this now
[05:40] <madberry> Ok they will be here any minute lol
[05:40]  * jayne watching
[05:41] <madberry> cool thanks
[05:41] <jayne> 2 floodbots?
[05:41] <skreech> I know!
[05:41] <madberry> it's FloodBotK2 that keeps going "!netsplit"
[05:42] <skreech> And they keep kicking each other off
[05:42] <jayne> So there's only supposed to be one, and it's to prevent join floods?
[05:42] <madberry> fun  to watch but getting annoying
[05:43] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:43] <madberry> there it goes again
[05:43] <jayne> hmm
[05:44] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:44] <jayne> yeah, okay.
[05:45] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[05:46]  * jayne checks flags
[05:47] <jayne> it's opping itself; it's not +O
[05:47] <madberry> yeah as far as I know it should only does this in emergency's
[05:48] <zebaztian> how can i add the ppa backports for kubuntu? i already opened the sources list
[05:48] <madberry> zebaztian: What are you trying to install?
[05:49] <zebaztian> add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main at the end of the sources list?
[05:49] <madberry> zebaztian: this should work
[05:50] <madberry> jayne: we should only have one floodbot but it seems here and on #ubuntu floodbotk2 keeps oping it's self
[05:51] <jayne> on #ubuntu too?
[05:51] <madberry> yeah just checked it
[05:51] <jayne> we've made it 2 minutes now, so I think it's probably okay
[05:51] <jayne> it seemed to be triggering every min
[05:51] <madberry> but I don't see the "!netsplit" problem
[05:51] <jayne> ... then again
[05:51] <jayne> I had to go and say that :-)
[05:52] <madberry> lol
[05:52] <zebaztian> ok i enabled the backports and added the keys, i am currently on gnome, jaunty, how can i install kubuntu with kde 4.3 ?
[05:53] <madberry> thanks jayne
[05:54] <jayne> both flodbots are in #ubuntu, but they're not fighting there
[05:54] <madberry> zebaztian: in terminal sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should do the trick
[05:54] <maco> DANG still?
[05:55] <maco> i thought i muted them here
[05:55] <jayne> maco: maybe, I didn't pay that much attention to scrollback
[05:55] <madberry> jayne: no they seem to be fine it's just the first time I've seen them both be op
[05:55] <madberry> ussually only 1 is op at a time
[05:55] <maco> i -v'd both floodbots to try to stop them
[06:00]  * madberry going offline for the night
[06:30] <zebaztian> i just downloaded kubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <zebaztian> when i logged in
[06:30] <zebaztian> kwin crashed
[06:30] <zebaztian> and so i rebooted
[06:30] <zebaztian> when i logged in
[06:30] <FloodBotK1> zebaztian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:30] <zebaztian> kwin crashed and metacity jumped in
[06:30] <zebaztian> there were no title bars and no way of getting around things
[06:30] <zebaztian> can someone help me figure out what's going on
[06:31] <zebaztian> and i am on gnome right now
[06:31] <zebaztian> did  i miss something?
[06:31] <zebaztian> after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:31] <zebaztian> it finished downloading and then i had to reboot it said
[06:32] <zebaztian> did i have to enter another command?
[06:32] <zebaztian> something like dist upgrade or something like that?
[06:35] <skreech> zebaztian: What did you do when you loggedin?
[06:35] <skreech>  Did you switch session?
[06:36] <zebaztian> yes i switch over to kde
[06:36] <zebaztian> first kwin crashed
[06:36] <zebaztian> then i reboot
[06:36] <zebaztian> then kwin crashed and metacity barged in and it rendered it unmanageable to work
[06:37] <skreech> can you open a terminal ?
[06:37] <skreech> Alt+F2 -> konsole should work
[06:37] <zebaztian> yes
[06:38] <skreech> type kwin --replace
[06:38] <zebaztian> er screech
[06:38] <zebaztian> i'm on gnome now
[06:40] <owner_> Hello if anyone is out there SOS.
[06:40] <owner_> My cups is broken
[06:40] <skreech> how so?
[06:40] <owner_> I can't start it. localhost:631 won't even return anything.
[06:41] <owner_> starting cups gives me an exit status 1
[06:41] <owner_> FAIL
[06:41] <owner_> cups is installed allong with cupsys
[06:41] <owner_> This might help: Hello I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I need to print stuff to apply for a job. My CUPS is busted. It won't start. I reinstalled it and did everything. cupsys is installed. Synaptic and apt-get say it's there but when I try to install hplip-3.9.8 it tells me CUPS is not installed. Also localhost:631 gives me nothing. CUPS is dead. When I try to start it I get a exit status 1 fail.
 sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart  ... invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found.
[06:41] <skreech> no error message?
[06:42] <happybull> всем привет
[06:42] <happybull> как дела?
[06:42] <FloodBotK1> happybull: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:42] <owner_> ok
[06:42] <skreech> !ru
[06:42] <owner_> does that info help?
[06:42] <skreech> привет
[06:43] <owner_> Wow Russians in here tonight
[06:43] <happybull> yep) we are here)
[06:43] <skreech> Any night :)
[06:43] <happybull> every night)
[06:44] <zebaztian> skreech, that was a nuissance
[06:44] <zebaztian> i am on gnome currently
[06:44] <zebaztian> that rendered the gui unmanageable
[06:44] <owner_> I'm starting to really hate 9.04
[06:44] <zebaztian> can someone tell me what i did wrong?
[06:44] <owner_> 8.04 was so much better
[06:44] <zebaztian> i installed
[06:44] <zebaztian> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <zebaztian> and it doesn't load well
[06:44] <skreech> zebaztian: you logged in from GDM or KDM ?
[06:45] <happybull> скрич как дела?
[06:45] <zebaztian> i am currently on gdm
[06:46] <owner_> I was a firm believer in KDE until I realized that gnome played nicer with my apps.
[06:46] <skreech> happybull: English in here please you can join the russian channel as well
[06:47] <zebaztian> skreech, what are the steps to downloading kubuntu desktop
[06:47] <skreech> zebaztian: and you are in Gnome?
[06:47] <zebaztian> i enabled the ppa backports
[06:47] <skreech> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <zebaztian> and the keys
[06:47] <zebaztian> yes
[06:47] <zebaztian> i did that
[06:47] <zebaztian> then it had to reboot
[06:47] <FloodBotK1> zebaztian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:47] <skreech> you may want to run a sudo apt-get upgrade after just to check
[06:47] <zebaztian> and when it rebooted kwin wouldnt load
[06:47] <happybull> well) no problem skeech)
[06:47] <zebaztian> doing that
[06:48] <skreech> zebaztian: What did load?
[06:48] <zebaztian> i just typed sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:48] <Brhad56> skreech: thank you
[06:48] <zebaztian> ppa libraries it looks like
[06:48] <skreech> owner_: Anythig in the logs?
[06:48] <happybull> skreech were are you from?
[06:49] <skreech> Zarkon 5 :)
[06:49] <zebaztian> skreech, it's downloading stuff, libs
[06:49] <skreech> zebaztian: It wasn't quite finished then
[06:49] <owner_> logs?
[06:49] <owner_> where would I look for those
[06:49] <skreech> owner_: `Cups logs
[06:50] <skreech> /var/logs normally
[06:50] <owner_> sorry I'm in 3 rooms looking for help. Where are the cups logs located?
[06:50] <owner_> oh
[06:50] <zebaztian> skreech,  should work after this? or is there anything else? like distro upgrade or something
[06:50] <owner_> nope no logs
[06:50] <owner_> in /var
[06:51] <skreech> you can run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade as a precaution when you are done
[06:52] <skreech> owner_: /var/log/  ?
[06:52] <zebaztian> will that upgrade the sources list changes too?
[06:54] <owner_> nope
[06:54] <owner_> no such luck
[06:54] <owner_> let me do a file search for log
[06:55] <owner_> what do you know. The search program says they aer in /var/log/ but nautilus does not display it
[06:57] <owner_> E [14/Sep/2009:22:04:03 -0700] "/etc/cups/ssl/server.crt" is a bad symlink - No such file or directory
[06:57] <owner_> lets see if I can install it :)
[07:00] <owner_> ok found a couple packages that showed up when I searched for cups server
[07:00] <owner_> nothing for cups ssl
[07:00] <owner_> I'm installing them
[07:00] <owner_> don't think it will work
[07:03] <owner_> ok when I run it as owner I get an exit status 15 but when I run it as root I get an exit status of 1
[07:03] <owner_> what does that mean?
[07:04] <owner_> why is everyone so quiet?
[07:05] <ubuntu_> wow this ubuntu thing aint bad at all
[07:05] <ubuntu_> if i wasnt recording music or gaming id be totally into this
[07:06] <owner_> ubuntu you can game and record music on ubuntu
[07:06] <owner_> want to see?
[07:06] <owner_> watch the youtube vid at www.mindblowingidea.com/JULinux
[07:06] <ubuntu_> id love to see some good asio enabled vst-hosts
[07:06] <owner_> asio?
[07:07] <ubuntu_> yeah cant record without that
[07:07] <owner_> what is it?
[07:07] <owner_> I use Audacity to record
[07:07] <ubuntu_> its kind of like audio api for realtime (almost) recording
[07:07] <owner_> I record in Flac and OGG
[07:07] <Lord_Drachenblut> owner_: I like using jokosher for recording.  In fact i use it for the podcast I do
[07:08] <Brhad56> I don't record.
[07:08] <owner_> is that a Linux program?
[07:08] <Lord_Drachenblut> owner_: yea it's in the repo
[07:08] <owner_> so have I confused everyone about my cups problem?
[07:08] <Lord_Drachenblut> but I run the version from bzr
[07:08] <Lord_Drachenblut> owner_: what's your cups issue?
[07:08] <ubuntu_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audio_Stream_Input/Output well here it is
[07:08] <owner_> I've tried completly removing it and installing it
[07:08] <owner_> well here is my cups issue. Just a sec
[07:08] <owner_> I'll get you the log
[07:09] <ubuntu_> audacity is currently the best linux recording app?
[07:09] <owner_> E [14/Sep/2009:22:33:51 -0700] "/etc/cups/ssl/server.crt" is a bad symlink - No such file or directory
[07:09] <owner_> I would not know. I just do radio shows
[07:09] <owner_> I just know it does a very good job
[07:10] <ubuntu_> would i get shot if i asked about windows 7 around here?
[07:10] <ubuntu_> opinions?
[07:11] <owner_> Windows 7 is better than Vista but worse than XP
[07:11] <owner_> XP SP2 is the best
[07:11] <owner_> SP3 with additional newer MS updates and software = vista
[07:11] <ubuntu_> ouch
[07:12] <ubuntu_> i was about to install it but somehow installation keeps freezing so i cant go back to xp and here i am using ubuntu livecd
[07:12] <ubuntu_> not a bad OS at all
[07:12] <ubuntu_> :)
[07:12] <skreech> zebaztian: yes it should
[07:13] <skreech> owner_: both are errors just differnt types I'm guessing exit 15 means you don't have persmissions to start and stop the server
[07:13] <skreech> Exit 1 is a more general fault error normally
[07:14] <ubuntu_> n00b question, where do i go to mount my ntfs partition in kubuntu?
[07:14] <owner_> I"ve been windows free for 4 - 5 years now
[07:14] <owner_> good quetion ubuntu
[07:15] <owner_> if you have the ntfs stuff installed in synaptic it should just mount if you look in your media
[07:15] <owner_> KDE still has a media icon right guys?
[07:15] <ubuntu_> it didnt automount
[07:16] <skreech> ubuntu_: if you open Dolphin it should be on the left hand side just click on it
[07:16] <skreech> owner_: no it's just a part of the File browser now
[07:16] <ubuntu_> i have an old version
[07:16] <ubuntu_> so im not sure what dolphin is
[07:17] <Lord_Drachenblut> ubuntu_: what version do you have by chance
[07:17] <owner_> I hate how the new distros can't mount dirty partitions like Knoppix 5.1.1
[07:18] <skreech> ubuntu_: How old?
[07:18] <skreech> owner_: They can mostly
[07:18] <ubuntu_> hmm where does it tell me which version i got
[07:18] <skreech> you just have to tell it to mount sloppy if it's very badly dmaged
[07:18] <owner_> whenever a NTFS partition is marked dirty it says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:18] <skreech> otherwise currently they just fix it and mount
[07:18] <owner_> by dirty I mean an incorrect Windows Shutdown
[07:19] <skreech> ubuntu_: Not sure which version you are using so the fastest way is lsb_release -a from the command line
[07:19] <skreech> press alt+F2 then type konsole
[07:19] <skreech> owner_: I know
[07:19] <skreech> They just fix it now most of the time
[07:20] <ubuntu_> its feisty fawn :P
[07:20] <ubuntu_> 7.04
[07:20] <skreech> if you are watching the log from the command line it will say found dirty file system attempting fix. mounting
[07:20] <skreech> ubuntu_: Woooooow
[07:20] <skreech> That's old :)
[07:20] <skreech> !feisty
[07:20] <Lord_Drachenblut> ubuntu_: yea that's 2 years old but
[07:20] <skreech> It died a year ago
[07:20] <ubuntu_> yea those were the days
[07:21] <skreech> Still my favourite release though
[07:21] <ubuntu_> okay commandline how do i mount sda\1 whatever
[07:21] <skreech> Koala looks good though
[07:21] <skreech> mkdir mydrive && sudo mount /dev/sda1 mydrive
[07:22] <ubuntu_> :) thanx skreech
[07:22] <ubuntu_> where can i find it now
[07:22] <Lord_Drachenblut> skreech: karmic is treating me pretty good so far.... it actaully fixed an issue i was having with jaunty
[07:23] <skreech> ubuntu_: In your home directory under mydrive
[07:23] <skreech> It'll add more
[07:23] <skreech> such is the state of software
[07:23] <skreech> When you hear about the problems with thigns 5 years ago all that stuff works fine now but all this new stuff is soooooo annoying
[07:24] <ubuntu__> how do i gain access to mydisk
[07:24] <ubuntu__> it tells me i dont have permission
[07:24] <Lord_Drachenblut> skreech: my problem was caused by upgrading to jaunty since the ati driver was no longer supported and now that problem is gone in karmic
[07:24] <skreech> ah umm
[07:25] <Lord_Drachenblut> and since i don't have the ati driver anymore suspend to ram works
[07:25] <skreech> sudo umount mydisk && sudo mount /dev/sda1 mydisk -o umask=0022
[07:26] <ubuntu__> nice work skreech, once again u da man
[07:27] <zebaztian> can i run kde 4.3 on hardy?
[07:30] <asdqwe> how set winbox on kubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <skreech> zebaztian: Ermmm I guess technically yes but you'd be flying on your own
[07:30] <zebaztian> skreech,  how do you mean?
[07:31] <madberry> zebaztian: why do you want to do this? 9.10 will have 4.3 and will be out October 29th
[07:31] <Lord_Drachenblut> zebaztian: I don't know if 4.3 has been back ported to hardy
[07:31] <skreech> zebaztian: There are no packages that are supported for hardy but you can certainly roll your own packages or get the packages installed on hardy
[07:31] <skreech> It is FOSS you can do what you like
[07:31] <Lord_Drachenblut> madberry: isn't hardy a lts version?
[07:32] <skreech> Lord_Drachenblut: It's not but that wouldn't make a difference
[07:32] <zebaztian> i'm a noob to linux
[07:32] <zebaztian> so i'll make it into a yes no question
[07:32] <madberry> Lord_Drachenblut: what skreech said lol
[07:34] <zebaztian> yes or no?
[07:35] <Lord_Drachenblut> skreech: if it was a lts version I could see why someone might want to stay there but still try to get 4.3
[07:35] <madberry> zebaztian: From kubuntu.org: "Packages for Jaunty are not officially supported. KDE 4.3 will be part of Kubuntu Karmic 9.10 to be officially released this October"
[07:35] <madberry> zebaztian: If there are not supported for Jaunty then they will also not be supported for Hardy
[07:36] <zebaztian> what does it mean "there are no packages for" ?
[07:37] <madberry> Lord_Drachenblut: true
[07:37] <Lord_Drachenblut> zebaztian: it means that there are no official packages in the repo's for it
[07:38] <zebaztian> apparently there was a problem in installing the ubuntu and kubuntu restricted extras
[07:38] <zebaztian> what do i do to fix that?
[07:39] <zebaztian> brb
[07:39] <madberry> zebaztian: what was the problem error message?
[07:43] <zebaztian> ok, i'm having big trouble
[07:43] <zebaztian> i logged onto kubunt
[07:43] <zebaztian> and kwin crrashes
[07:43] <zebaztian> several times in a row and wants to switch over to metacity
[07:44] <zebaztian> by the way how od i check which i'm using?
[07:45] <zebaztian> i can't change the system settings either
[07:46] <zebaztian> it seems to crash
[07:46] <zebaztian> can someone help me out
[07:46] <skreech> zebaztian: where are you now?
[07:46] <zebaztian> i'm kde
[07:46] <zebaztian> and kwin crashed
[07:47] <zebaztian> and when i try to open the desktop settings in system settings
[07:47] <zebaztian> it crashes
[07:47] <zebaztian> what the hecks going on
[07:47] <skreech> ok
[07:47] <zebaztian> i don't get it
[07:47] <skreech> open a terminal
[07:47] <FloodBotK1> zebaztian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <zebaztian> ok
[07:47] <skreech> Lord_Drachenblut: Yes but the point of it being LTS would be gone then wouldn't it?
[07:48] <skreech> zebaztian: type kwin --replace
[07:48] <skreech> see what it says
[07:48] <Lord_Drachenblut> skreech: possibly
[07:49] <zebaztian> skreech
[07:49] <zebaztian> last time i did that it rendered the whole gui unworkable
[07:49] <skreech> crashed?
[07:49] <zebaztian> no top bars, no way of diong anything
[07:49] <skreech> hmm ok let's work with metacity then :)
[07:49] <skreech> see if we can figure out what's going on
[07:50] <zebaztian> !pastebin
[07:50] <skreech> what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade say ?
[07:50] <zebaztian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271357/
[07:52] <skreech> zebaztian: woah seems that you don't have some variables set
[07:53] <zebaztian> what does that mean?
[07:53] <skreech> When you login you have some variables set to make your environment have some idea what is going on
[07:53] <zebaztian> uh huh, why are they not set?
[07:54] <skreech> when you login to the command line for instance it sets $HOME to your home directory
[07:54] <skreech> GNOME has some Gnome Environment variables As does KDE
[07:54] <skreech>  they are set by the first process which in this case should be kdeiit
[07:54] <skreech> init
[07:55] <skreech> did you try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[08:02] <skreech> zebaztian: There?
[08:03] <skreech> Maybe not
[08:11] <zebaztian> skreech, it kicked me out, when i closed the temrinal where kwin was
[08:12] <zebaztian> i had to get out as i couldn't anytthing eyt again
[08:12] <skreech> zebaztian: Errrm
[08:12] <zebaztian> i'm on gnome now
[08:12] <skreech> yeah ok
[08:12] <zebaztian> so basically
[08:12] <zebaztian> if i install hardy
[08:12] <skreech> zebaztian: ok before you logged in what did you do?
[08:12] <zebaztian> i can't just add the new repos to its sources list?
[08:12] <zebaztian> apt won't work
[08:13] <zebaztian> right?
[08:13] <zebaztian> how do you mean what did i do?
[08:13] <skreech> no they feed out based on jaunty. You can download the packages and install them regardles sbut you might need to update underlying packages
[08:13] <skreech> Well you have the login screen. What did you do before you went to login to KDE?
[08:14] <zebaztian> reboot? i'm not getting you before the login scren the computer is just starting up
[08:14] <skreech> no after the login screen comes up
[08:14] <skreech> how did you switch to KDE?
[08:15] <zebaztian> i chose session
[08:15] <zebaztian> and selected kde
[08:15] <zebaztian> why?
[08:15] <skreech> Ok just checking on why the terminal would log you out
[08:15] <skreech> when you login to KDE what comes up?
[08:15] <zebaztian> a notice
[08:16] <zebaztian> that kwin crashed
[08:16] <zebaztian> if i did a clean install of hardy
[08:16] <zebaztian> would you help me install kde 4.3?
[08:16] <skreech> that's all no background or an panels?
[08:16] <skreech> Why are you interested in hardy?
[08:17] <zebaztian> i think it might have to do with this driver i installed, it's been a pain
[08:17] <zebaztian> the last day and a half i've been dealing with it
[08:17] <zebaztian> an ATI driver
[08:17] <zebaztian> i can't even enable compiz on gnome
[08:17] <skreech> ha ha that would probably be it
[08:17] <skreech> hold on then give me a second.
[08:17] <zebaztian> and if i use the os suggested one, my computer overheats and freezes when watching a movie
[08:18] <skreech> tell me if you have  ~?.kde directory
[08:18] <zebaztian> i think hardy is better for my radeon 3200 card
[08:18] <zebaztian> how can i check
[08:18] <skreech> just open nautilus and go to ~/.kde
[08:18] <skreech> or go to your home directory and press Ctrl+H
[08:19] <zebaztian> yes i am ther enow
[08:19] <zebaztian> autostart folder
[08:19] <zebaztian> cache-jaunty folder
[08:20] <skreech> ok open share/config/kwinrc
[08:20] <zebaztian> env and share folder
[08:20] <skreech> Tell me if you see a [Compositing] section when you open it
[08:20] <zebaztian> [$Version]
[08:20] <zebaztian> update_info=kwin_focus2.upd:kwin_focus2,kwin.upd:kde3.0r1,kwin.upd:kde3.2Xinerama,kwin3_plugin.upd:kde3.2,kwin_on_off.upd:kwin_on_off,kwin_focus1.upd:kwin_focus [Compositing] Enabled=false
[08:21] <skreech> Hmm it's disabled already
[08:21] <zebaztian> skreech, not to be a pain, but as i said i've been pretty much working on my laptop for the past two days something which i'm not used to
[08:21] <zebaztian> would you help me out to install kde 4.3 when i install hardy?
[08:22] <skreech> I could but it's probably just as painful
[08:22] <zebaztian> great!
[08:22] <zebaztian> brb
[08:22] <skreech> you are going to want to save your /var/cache/apt/archives directory
[08:25] <Wyzir> Dicsoseg testevrek
[08:26] <skreech> !hu
[08:26] <Wyzir> automatix2 does not work with jaunty seagull shit?
[08:26] <Wyzir> skreech !nu
[08:29] <skreech> !nu
[08:30] <Wyzir> bazhang bruder aloha
[08:32] <asdqwe> how to run winbox on kubuntu desktop
[08:32] <skreech> what is winbox?
[08:32] <Wyzir> what is water?
[08:32] <asdqwe> www.mikrotik.com
[08:33] <Wyzir> bazhang bruder aloha
[08:34] <Wyzir> automatix2 does not work with jaunty seagull shit?
[08:34] <skreech> Wyzir: No it doesn't
[08:34] <bazhang> Wyzir, stop that
[08:34] <skreech> asdqwe: I still don't know what winbox is
[08:34] <Wyzir> Welcome bazhang brotha
[08:35] <bazhang> !ohmy > Wyzir
[08:35] <Wyzir> yummy...so...please, stop that if it is possible... please, so please...
[08:35] <bazhang> Wyzir, did you have an actual support question?
[08:35] <Wyzir> nevermind bazhang brotha
[08:36] <Wyzir> no support, no penguins, no future, :DDD
[08:52] <xxex> having some problems with grub.. now i can boot only in windows, is there a way to repair it using live cd?
[09:09] <skreech> !grub
[09:17] <Gamarok__> Hey guys
[09:20] <skreech> hi
[09:29] <allan8904> hi, I'm having an issue with my kubuntu 9.04 installation running KDE 4.3.1
[09:29] <allan8904> I booted up my computer and everything was normal, then about after 2 minutes all the applications that i launched's text has been replaced by random "------ - - - -- - ---  --" everwhere so i cant read the buttons or menus or anything. i tried deleting the .kde folder and it still does the same thing after reboot. Any ideas?
[09:34] <skreech> sounds more like a font cache issue
[09:34] <allan8904> how do i sort that out?
[10:35] <kaddy> kubuntu users are all Fake! Your just a product of the distro kubuntu rips off! which is OpenSuse!
[10:35] <allan8904> Kaddy: is kubuntu based of opensuse?
[10:35] <kaddy> yes
[10:35] <kaddy> you noob!
[10:35] <kaddy> what a dumb question noob
[10:36] <allan8904> Kaddy: oh i thought it was debian
[10:36] <kaddy> what is debian?
[10:36] <kaddy> sounds like a biscuit
[10:36] <allan8904> Kaddy: a linux distro
[10:36] <kaddy> no its not
[10:36] <kaddy> its a biscuit
[10:36] <allan8904> Kaddy: oh ok
[10:36] <kaddy> and the debian biscuit is a rip off from scotch finger biscuits
[10:36] <kaddy> so either way, your all fake!
[10:36] <allan8904> Kaddy:  ahhh i see
[10:37] <kaddy> and don't get me started about RedHat! ripoff from Windows 2000!
[10:37] <kaddy> fkn fraud
[10:37] <bazhang> kaddy, did you have a support question?
[10:37] <kaddy> if you want to use windows, whats with red hat? just use windows
[10:37] <allan8904> Kaddy: i thought redhat was from novell?
[10:37] <kaddy> yes
[10:37] <kaddy> i have a question
[10:37] <kaddy> anyways
[10:37] <kaddy> i was wondering
[10:38] <bazhang> !enter | kaddy
[10:38] <kaddy> im using Linux Vista right now.... How do i install Windows Media Player?
[10:38] <rvb> hello kubunut users, i bought a new PC and installed kubuntu Jaunty
[10:38] <rvb> i can hear sound alright but my mic isnt working
[10:38] <rvb> how can i troubleshoot this?
[10:39] <rvb> anyone?
[10:39] <rvb> join #ubuntu
[10:39] <kaddy> novell found the sourcecode of windows 2000 on bit torrent and compiled it
[10:40] <kaddy> i can help you rvp
[10:40] <kaddy> what is your question?
[10:40] <bazhang> kaddy, please take offtopic chat elsewhere
[10:40] <kaddy> I use "2pac Linux" myself, but im sure i can help you
[10:40] <allan8904> bazhang: its really intersting though i didnt know alot of the stuff he was saying, maybe it can be helpful to others
[10:41] <rvb>  my question is how to make my microphone working?
[10:41] <bazhang> allan8904, it was all nonsense
[10:41] <jussi01> kaddy: you are free to watch in this channel, if you want the ban lifted please go to #ubuntu-ops to talk about it.
[10:41] <allan8904> bazhang: what do you mean?
[10:42] <jussi01> allan8904: Id suggest you join #kubuntu-offtopic and talk to bazhang about it htere - then he can explain in full.
[10:42] <allan8904> ok
[10:53] <[-Haza-]1> Hey folks. it looks like the KDE "dashbloard" (?) has crashed here and failed to come back. Any way i can restart it without logging out?
[10:53] <[-Haza-]1> I was kinda busy when it crashed
[10:54] <frozen[fark]> Ok, here goes-- I m considering a personal file server, and I wanted a GUI on top of it. Would kubuntu be a good choice, or go with ubuntu?
[10:55] <allan8904> frozen[fark]: Go with xubuntu
[10:55] <allan8904> frozen[fark]: very lightwiehgt and all you need
[10:56] <frozen[fark]> whats the main difference btwn k and x
[10:56] <bazhang> frozen[fark], one uses kde4, the other xfce4
[10:57] <allan8904> frozen[fark]:trust me you dont need all teh boat (on offence) that KDE has for a server
[10:58] <frozen[fark]> allright
[10:58] <frozen[fark]> thanks for the advice-- appreciate it
[10:59] <allan8904> frozen[fark]: no probs
[10:59] <[-Haza-]1> Anyone? :( Save me from restarting
[11:03] <Dragnslcr> [-Haza-]1- I think the command you need to run is plasma-desktop
[11:10] <pqoi> hi
[11:10] <[-Haza-]1> Dragnslcr: Worth a try :)
[11:11] <Tm_T> frozen[fark]: well, if you're short of resources, then it's worth picking lightweight desktop
[11:11] <[-Haza-]1> Dragnslcr: Ahh, plasma did it :)
[11:11] <[-Haza-]1> Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeers!
[11:11] <Tm_T> frozen[fark]: but if your server is only sharing files and have plenty of power, well, then it doesn't really matter I'd say
[11:17] <frozen[fark]> Tm_T its 2ghz, 256mb ram (old, to say the least). gonna use it just for file and media sharing
[11:17] <frozen[fark]> so yeah, looksl ike im going down the xubuntu route
[11:31] <Tm_T> frozen[fark]: hmm, XFCE isn't that much lighter, I would recommend something more lighter if you are willing to try, for example LXDE, which is (in default session) less RAM-hogging but also less functionality (by itself)
[11:31] <frozen[fark]> ill stick with Xubuntu since its installing as we speak
[11:31] <frozen[fark]> i ll see how it performs
[11:32] <Tm_T> frozen[fark]: you can install LXDE or whatever you like next to it and just select the session you like in login screen then
[11:53] <carlino> !list
[11:56] <stefano> list!
[11:56] <stefano> ciaoooooooooooo
[11:56] <stefano> a tuttiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:56] <stefano> !list
[12:39] <Gamarok__> hey guys
[12:46] <Eugene_MC> фигасебе юзеров
[12:51] <Bou> !ru
[12:51] <Bou> Eugene_MC: ---^
[12:53] <Eugene_MC> and kubuntu channel?
[12:54] <Bou> not sure there is a kubbuntu-ru specific channel
[12:54] <Bou> but if you can speak english you'll be fine here
[12:55] <Eugene_MC> any body knows how to fix volume for voicer record in Kmix?
[13:16] <neptune_> for some reason youtube .com doesn't load on my firefox
[13:16] <neptune_> anybody know why?
[13:20] <jussi01> neptune_: you have flash installed?
[13:21] <neptune_> yes
[13:23] <neptune_> ...
[13:25] <sena> neptune_: you probably miss some flash lib run dpkg -l | grep flash and paste output to pastebin.com or so
[13:26] <neptune_> no you don't understand
[13:26] <neptune_> youtube doesn't come up
[13:26] <neptune_> i get a white screen
[13:26] <sena> you can not load the web page?
[13:27] <neptune_> yes
[13:27] <neptune_> exactly
[13:27] <neptune_> other websites with live streaming, i can see their videos
[13:27] <neptune_> but youtube just doesn't load
[13:28] <sena> but only the flash on the youtube web page the other stuf you can see or?
[13:28] <neptune_> i deleted .mozilla and it works
[13:28] <neptune_> thx
[13:28] <neptune_> i lost my bookmarks tho :(
[13:29] <sena> ou
[13:30] <sena> hope you have backup
[13:34] <jeeva> need high resolution in my laptop
[13:34] <jeeva> it shows only 1024x768
[13:48] <carlucho> test
[13:49] <shivchal> hello ppl. I'm using kubuntu 9.04 & I'm not able to see the windows partitions in file manager, which I was able to see in previous versions. Thanks in advance for helping.
[13:51] <shivchal> Am I asking this in the right place?
[14:00] <sena> shivchal: you can try fdisk -l to see whether you partitions are still there
[14:00] <sena> shivchal: if they are you can mount them manually
[14:05] <Idhan>  I have problem with the java plugin with firefox ... java is installed but firefox doesnt use it..how can I do it?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:34] <tomas__> hello
[14:35] <tomas__> hello....
[14:35] <Gamarok__> hey tomas__
[14:35] <tomas__> who are you???
[14:38] <genii> Apparently he didn't care enough to hang around and find out
[14:39] <Gamarok__> i did send him a pm informing him that this is a support channel for kubuntu
[14:40] <genii> Gamarok__: There is an !sk  factoid for the Slovak channel as well (.sk in his hostmask)
[15:00] <brennan> hey wine doesnt work, some one help?
[15:00] <solifugus> How can I make kubuntu automatically log into wireless networks instead of having my enter the kde wallet password first.. and then waiting a random period of time (like 30 minutes) before bringing wireless up, unless I enter the password right after logging into my desktop.. which is hard cause, I start typing it and 5 other windows pop up causing my keys to do random things in them.
[15:00] <solifugus> It is just severely annoying as hell
[15:01] <brennan> ???
[15:03] <brennan> HELLLLO???
[15:05] <brennan> Some one help me please!!!1
[15:06] <brennan> Authority: can you help please
[15:08] <maraxush> hello
[15:08] <maraxush> i need some help
[15:08] <maraxush> :S
[15:08] <brennan> i need help too
[15:08] <maraxush> i can't see the network manager icon in tray.. :(
[15:08] <maraxush> and in KDE i can't connact to any network
[15:08] <maraxush> :-(
[15:09] <brennan> click on the kass bar and type wicd in the find bar at the top
[15:09] <maraxush> i tried, but nothin.... :-S i find a lot of stuffs, but where i can set my mobile internet?
[15:10] <maraxush> in gnome i just click on the network manager in tray and i can connect
[15:10] <maraxush> but what about in KDE? O.o
[15:10] <brennan> um get a konsole and type netcardconfig
[15:12] <maraxush> i just need the trey menu... the mobile internet i set up my mobile internet earlier, and in gnome i can use it...
[15:12] <maraxush> i installed the
[15:12] <maraxush> gcom file from repository
[15:12] <maraxush> and thats all i chatting from gnome now, with my vodafone mobile internet
[15:13] <brennan> k  um i dont know i use that wicd
[15:13] <brennan> o get on your start button and type network manager in the find bar at the top
[15:14] <brennan> anyone know how to upgrade wine
[15:14] <brennan> i got 1.0.0
[15:15] <brennan> and my emulators run slowly
[15:17] <solifugus> brennan: you've got to understand that if your wine isn't working and everyone else's is working then they are all passed out as a result of it.
[15:18] <brennan> isnt wine 1.0.0 old though when i type upgrade in it wont load some -generic type files
[15:18] <brennan> solifugus:  isnt wine 1.0.0 old though when i type upgrade in it wont load some -generic type files
[15:20] <brennan> Mamarok: u there?
[15:27] <brennan> how do you unblock updates
[15:27] <genii> brennan: You should ask in ##winehq channel for your issue. Also note it is not polite to randomly ping or highlight people about a problem
[15:27] <brennan> ???????
[15:27] <genii> brennan: Updates are usually blocked when it involves a kernel upgrade
[15:28] <brennan> i have the newest kerne
[15:28] <brennan> kernel
[15:29] <genii> brennan: You should try something like: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade        and then see if any blocked updates after that
[15:42] <brennan> how do you check a version number
[15:48] <simon__> i would like to know what 'version' ob kubuntu I have, couldnt get the answer on the net, as it it very easy to help me, i would be pleased if you do so :)
[15:48] <genii> brennan: Of the OS, of an app... ?
[15:48] <simon__> (aptitude mentions jaunty when updating)
[15:48] <brennan> OS
[15:48] <genii> simon__: lsb_release -a
[15:48] <genii> brennan: See above msg to simon__ then
[15:49] <simon__> okay - thanks. got version 9.04
[15:49] <simon__> which version is the current stable? (couldnt find that info on the web either)
[15:49] <brennan> 9.04
[15:50] <simon__> oh - now i found the same number :) (sry)
[15:50] <genii> simon__: 9.04 is latest stable, 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the next release which is still in alpha
[15:50] <simon__> my problem is that the kde kicker disappeared and no thread i have read on the web could help me!
[15:50] <simon__> (i cant even install kicker!!)
[15:51] <simon__> (and there is no /usr/bin/kicker or kickerrc)
[15:51] <brennan> whats kicker
[15:51] <alvin_> hi erverybody, have Skype for Kubuntu??
[15:51] <bittin-> alvin_: yes
[15:51] <mike_mcginn> no kicker here and everything works great
[15:52] <alvin_> how can i setup it?
[15:52] <mike_mcginn> I don't think KDE 4.3 uses kicker
[15:52] <brennan> listen i cant get my wificard to work any ideas
[15:52] <brennan> ?
[15:52] <bittin-> alvin_: there is an Ubuntu Deb on http://www.skype.com install that
[15:52] <genii> simon__: Maybe see posting #3 here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1141713
[15:53] <brennan> genii: how do check an app for a version
[15:55] <genii> brennan: Usually it's by package:   apt-cache policy <packagename>
[15:55] <simon__> i tried so earlier... but how could you rebuild your kicker app with widgets!? i didnt find a windo widget.. or the usual things inside a kicker app-
[15:55] <alvin_> excute me, i have one question again!! :D
[15:55] <simon__> what would be the reason to remove the kicker app from the .deb servers ?
[15:56] <alvin_> flash for kubuntu?
[15:56] <genii> simon__: There is no more kicker since kde moved to 4
[15:56] <genii> !flash | alvin_
[15:56] <brennan> they got amarok
[15:56] <simon__> genii:  oh!
[15:56] <brennan> listen how do you run wireless???
[15:56] <alvin_> oh, thank ubottu so much
[15:56] <simon__> but.... it really looked like kicker...
[15:57] <simon__> .... and now its gone :(  maybe i have to use the ugly perlpanel....
[15:57] <brennan> i installed gcom and i cant find globe totter on the find bar
[15:57] <rosco_y> I'd like to create a logo, and I don't have much design experience--can anyone recommend a cool software I might use?
[15:57] <genii> simon__: Yes, but it's not. See posting #3 on the link I gave earlier for how to rebuild your kde4 panel
[15:58] <genii> !info gcom
[15:58] <yuriy> rosco_y: inkscape
[15:58] <genii> brennan: I'm no help on that one, sorry
[15:58] <simon__> yes - thank you again for the link - but as i said... i tried to rebuilt it - but couldn't get it. everything i can activate as widget (or whatever these apps call themselves) looks a lot different than befor :-|
[15:58] <rosco_y> yuriy: is it easy to learn?
[15:59] <yuriy> rosco_y: you can do some basic things easily, but any graphics software is at least going to take some exploring
[15:59] <brennan> i did all that and now i cant find it on my system\
[15:59] <alvin_> ubotu: Flash for ubuntu is work on kubuntu?
[15:59] <genii> alvin_: It's the same procedure, yes
[16:00] <rosco_y> yuriy: thank you.  I see that I have the "Inkscape Vector Graphics Editor" installed, is that what you are recommending?
[16:00] <yuriy> rosco_y: yep
[16:00] <rosco_y> yuriy: Thank you--I'll give it my best
[16:01] <brennan> can you openan app from the konsole
[16:02] <genii> brennan: Yes. Just type it's name and hit enter from in Konsole, or from the text entry field after you hit alt-f2
[16:02] <simon__> i startet all those widgets or applets and they somehow look like the macOS ones... all sepperated, not like the usual taskbar... could someone give me a hint on how the group them into on bar at the lower side of the screen? (please)
[16:04] <genii> Bleh, work
[16:04] <brennan_> i typed it in , pressed enter, and it wont run\
[16:05] <simon__> i already made a screenshot to show what i can see her (really - like mac os) but i dont know where to upload... ther must be some pastebin stuff for that..
[16:06] <genii> !paste | simon__ -  use the second url here
[16:07] <genii> brennan: Work needs me 3-5 minutes but I'll be back
[16:07] <simon__> genii: found the tinypic service ...
[16:07] <simon__> http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=107pda9&s=3
[16:08] <simon__> this is what it looks like when i try to rebuild a kicker like menu bar with the cashew thing and their widget apps
[16:08] <simon__> I already tried to find some preferences to make it look like before - but i couldnt find any.
[16:11] <simon__> I just found out how to enable a control bar (in german: kontrollleiste)
[16:11] <simon__> (wow)
[16:12] <simon__> oh... now i got it... (i think) thanks for your help!!!
[16:12] <simon__> bye
[16:13] <genii> brennan: What did you type in the terminal?
[16:14] <brennan> i just closed the konsole
[16:15] <brennan> what do you do?
[16:16] <alvin_> ubuntu is great
[16:16] <alvin_> :D
[16:16] <genii> brennan: Are you asking what my work is or so?
[16:16] <brennan> work
[16:16] <brennan> cute
[16:17] <genii> alvin_: Glad you're having fun :)
[16:17] <alvin_> i cannot find yahoo ?for linux :D
[16:17] <alvin_> ;))
[16:17] <maco> yahoo IM? kopete can do it
[16:17] <genii> brennan: I look after an old office building, in which there are some businesses I also work for in an IT capacity
[16:18] <alvin_> thank maco
[16:20] <varanus> just a curiosity, does the side mouse buttons works on konqueror?
[16:25] <brennan> genii: cool um anyways i got an old hp and it has those buttons on the top of the key board
[16:25] <brennan> genii: well one key is wifi
[16:25] <brennan> genii: but it doesnt work
[16:26] <brennan> the wifi
[16:26] <brennan> and the light doesnt work
[16:27] <muesli> is there any way of controlling the cpu fan?
[16:27] <genii> brennan: The switches which turn on and off wifi on laptops are usually hard-wired stuff. So it means normally that if toggling it isn't doing anything as per lights/activity, then you need the driver/adapter working before that
[16:27] <muesli> everytime after resuming from sleep, (k)ubuntu decides to keep my cpu fan running at 300 rpm
[16:27] <muesli> making my cpu heat up to almost 100 centidegrees
[16:35] <laeborg> is there any way to get more than 128mb video memory in virtualbox ?
[16:36] <alvin_> irc.chatvn.com
[16:36] <alvin_> sorry
[16:36] <alvin_> :D
[16:36] <brennan> genii: it said the installer could only be used on vist do you know how to get it over
[16:37] <brennan> or do they have driver on the ubuntu web site
[16:37] <genii> brennan: What installer?
[16:37] <brennan> for that wireless driver
[16:38] <genii> brennan: First try to find out what hardware you have. the command:     lspci -nn will normally report stuff including your wifi (if it's on the usb bus then lsusb)
[16:39] <genii> brennan: Then some googling for the (####:####) part which is vendor:device code and Ubuntu usually yields some results as to what native driver it can use
[16:47] <kaddy> kubuntu is a rip off from Linux Mint 2pac edition
[16:51] <genii> kaddy: Please don't troll. You have some support question?
[17:08] <brennan> genii:
[17:08] <genii> brennan: Yes?
[17:09] <brennan> genii: uh never mind hold on i re do it my computer shut down
[17:11] <brennan> genii: so it's installed but i cant run it
[17:11] <genii> brennan: Whats installed but won't run? The Vista driver for your wifi card?
[17:12] <brennan> genii: no i found the ubuntu version
[17:12] <brennan> is called ndiswrapper but now i dont know how to operate it
[17:13] <genii> brennan: ndiswrapper is not an ubuntu driver, it's a compatability layer to allow you to use XP windows drivers for your card under linux
[17:13] <genii> (eg: last resort)
[17:14] <brennan> genii: bum deal so what do i do
[17:14] <genii> brennan: First try to find out what hardware you have. the command:     lspci -nn will normally report stuff including your wifi (if it's on the usb bus then lsusb)
[17:14] <genii> brennan: ^ above is what I earlier said. what results did you get from that
[17:15] <brennan> i got 14E4;4318
[17:15] <brennan> as my part number
[17:15] <genii> brennan: OK, so let me look into it
[17:16] <genii> brennan: So it's a Broadcom BCM4311 ?
[17:16] <brennan> genii: looks like im on the site
[17:17] <genii> brennan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:17] <brennan> genii: ya fwcutter
[17:19] <brennan> genii: its working now awesome
[17:19] <brennan> how old are you
[17:20] <genii> brennan: Glad to know it works now. I'm old, to answer your other question.
[17:20]  * genii chases the kids off his lawn
[17:24] <varanus> sorry for asking again but does mouse side buttons work in konqueror? or is there khotkeys for kde 4.2.2 or i can install hotkeys insteed?
[17:28] <genii> varanus: I think I'd chance hotkeys/hotkey-setup under KDE
[17:29] <varanus> ty genii
[17:30] <varanus> i'm gonna try it
[17:31] <genii> varanus: Keep us posted :)
[17:33] <andea> salve
[17:33] <andea> list
[17:34] <genii> !it | andea
[17:36] <varanus> genii: is the hotkeys working for the mouse gestures too?
[17:36] <genii> varanus: Not as far as I know
[17:37] <varanus> genii: ok, sorry for disturbing, i'm searching how to enable (if possible) mouse gestures to konqueror
[17:37] <varanus> genii: ty anyway
[17:45] <genii> varanus: apt-cache search mouse|grep gest       shows some possibles for me here. Apologies on lag, I'm /away trying to eat lunch...
[17:47] <varanus> genii, ty very very much, just enjoy your lunch and you'll make me happy :D. don't wont to desturb right now. i'm going to found a solution, it's not urgent :) ty again
[17:47]  * genii munches
[17:54] <brennan_> genii:
[17:58] <brennan_> i just installed mplayer and i can use it
[18:03] <JuJuBee> I have a computer that seems frozen.  the mouse moves, but clicking on anything does nothing.  I can ssh to the computer fine and top shows almost no cpu/mem utilization.  What should I do?
[18:03]  * genii makes another pot of coffee and settles in
[18:03] <genii> JuJuBee: Did you try F5     (screen refresh)
[18:03] <JuJuBee> yes, nothing
[18:04] <genii> JuJuBee: I'd probably go for the old   sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[18:05] <JuJuBee> This happened the other day under similar circumstances.  My student is using a program called PacketTracer from CISCO.  The student next to him is also using it without any problems.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> I would like to figure out how to prevent this as well as save his data.
[18:06] <bodly> JuJuBee: you could look in the student's $HOME/.xsession-errors.  That might have some clues as to the problem
[18:08] <JuJuBee> last 20 lines show ....   kwin: X Error (error: <unknown>[DAMAGE+0], request: XDamageDestroy[DAMAGE+2], resource: 0x140b2a8)
[18:08] <JuJuBee> mean anything to you?
[18:10] <JuJuBee> I don't understand most of what is in that file.  beyond me
[18:12] <bodly> yeah, it's kind of gibberish to me too.  sometimes the problem is straightforward like file permission problems.
[18:13] <genii> JuJuBee: Offhand I'd say X was having a problem destroying some previously opened window. But thats just my best guess.
[18:14] <JuJuBee> I guess restart kdm then...
[18:15] <bodly> JuJuBee: does it ever lock up like this when running another program?  or just with PacketTracer?
[18:15] <JuJuBee> Woa, I resarted kdm and the screen did nothing.  Still same state.  Mouse moves but cannot click on anything.
[18:16] <JuJuBee> bodly: It is a new school year and only happened 2x now.  both times it was packet tracer.
[18:17] <bodly> JuJuBee: that's not enough data points to determine if that app is the cause or not.
[18:18] <bodly> JuJuBee: kdm is probably not responding.  try sudo killall kdm;sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[18:18] <JuJuBee> done, screen unchanged.
[18:19] <bodly> ok, try it with killall -9
[18:19] <tuxxy> anybody seen stdin
[18:19] <tuxxy> !seen stdin
[18:19] <genii> tuxxy: Not for ages
[18:19] <tuxxy> ye I thought so
[18:20] <JuJuBee> bodly: you mean sudo  killall -9 kdm?
[18:20] <tuxxy> damn hes the author of a plugin I am trying to get working
[18:20] <bodly> yes
[18:20] <JuJuBee> no change
[18:20] <bodly> JuJuBee: that's very odd.  I'd probably just reboot.
[18:21] <jerkman> hey, im trying to get a joystick working under linux, now call me crazy, but it is for an amiga and it just so happens to fit a serial port PERFECTLY... is there a driver and does anyone have any experiaence with this sort of thing??
[18:21] <genii> JuJuBee: Hm... is dmesg  output showing anything useful? (don't paste it in channel)
[18:22] <RussellAlan> How do I go about reading media/data off other partition? eg. Windows
[18:22] <bodly> jerkman: i'd be surprised if there wasn't a serial joystick driver.
[18:22] <JuJuBee> genii: not really.
[18:22] <genii> jerkman: The pinouts from an RS-232 (PC serial port) and an old Amiga/C-64/Atari joysticks are not compatible
[18:22] <JuJuBee> sudo reboot did absolutely nothing.
[18:22] <JuJuBee> brb, fire drill
[18:23] <jerkman> genii, dure, but can i remap my serial?
[18:23] <jerkman> *sure
[18:24] <jerkman> it is 9 pin, 4 directional with 2 buttons...
[18:24] <genii> jerkman: Maybe look at http://www.atariarchives.org/cfn/05/07/0044.php
[18:25] <jerkman> plus i only paid £2 for it...
[18:25] <genii> jerkman: As for the software part, you're on your own
[18:25] <jerkman> i want to use it in mame/advancemame...
[18:25] <genii> bodly: I'm wondering if JuJuBee is actually ssh'd into the right box
[18:26] <bodly> genii: yeah, i was thinking that myself
[18:27] <jerkman> ok, i dont think im talking abotu the same serial here, im talking db9 - 9 pin
[18:27] <jerkman> no 25.
[18:28] <jerkman> brb later,
[18:31] <varanus> i've just updated from kde4.2.2 to 4.3.1 and as i log in plasma crashes, any1 could tell me could i do to get it back working?
[18:32] <bodly> varanus: try moving your plasma-desktoprc and plasma-desktop-appletsrc out of the way temporarily and restart plasma-desktop
[18:33] <varanus> bodly you mean removing them?
[18:34] <W4gn3r> did anyone have any problem on updating from default kubuntu installation (KDE 4.2) to the new KDE 4.3.1?
[18:34] <W4gn3r> I'm having a problem with language-packs
[18:34] <bodly> varanus: remove them or rename them.  if you have a lot of customizitations, i'd just rename them.
[18:34] <wuebc> whats the command to install things?
[18:34] <W4gn3r> conflict between language-pack-kde-pt and language-pack-pt trying to overwrite phonon-(somthing)
[18:35] <W4gn3r> wuebc: do you mean .deb packages?
[18:35] <W4gn3r> wuebc: if so, sudo dpkg -i package-name.deb
[18:35] <varanus> ok, ty bodly. i'm out to try it
[18:36] <bodly> varanus: good luck
[18:40] <JuJuBee> genii : yes, I am
[18:40] <JuJuBee> the user logged in has open processes and he is only logged into 1 box.
[18:40] <JuJuBee> Any other ideas before I pull the plug?
[18:40] <JuJuBee> Hmmm. still doesn't explain why when I sudo reboot nothing happens.
[18:40] <FloodBotK1> JuJuBee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <bodly> JuJuBee: yeah, if it's working well enough to let you ssh in, i'm surprised you can't reboot it.
[18:41] <varanus> bodly, i've tried "sudo apt-get remove plasma-desktoprc plasma-desktop-appletsrc" and it says unable to find package
[18:41] <JuJuBee> is my only option now to pull the plug?
[18:41] <genii> JuJuBee: does top show any zombies?
[18:42] <brennan_> can any one help me
[18:42] <bodly> varanus: they're not packages, they're files.  by default they should be in $HOME/.kde/share/config/
[18:42] <JuJuBee> genii: it shows 1 zombie, how do I tell which one it is?
[18:42] <varanus> ups, ok, i'm going to retry, ty again bodly
[18:43] <genii> JuJuBee: Use ps command , the zombie will have a Z in status column
[18:44] <brennan_> help i cant get an m player up
[18:44] <JuJuBee> root     20565  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z<   13:15   0:00 [Xorg] <defunct>
[18:46] <genii> JuJuBee: Yup. So you have to sudo kill -9 20565
[18:47] <JuJuBee> didn't work
[18:47] <JuJuBee> still there.
[18:48] <bodly> JuJuBee: yeah, zombies rarely listen.
[18:48] <genii> JuJuBee: That should be a parent process... if -9 isn't working then reboot is final solution
[18:48] <JuJuBee> ok, pulling plug now.  Thanks to both of you.
[18:50] <varanus> bodly: i've removed the plasma-appletrc and i have a partial desktop without window borders etc. could i remove even plasmarc as i haven't found the plasma-desktoprc?
[18:50] <brennan_> any one help
[18:52] <t__> hi, can anyone help with 1080p playback in kubuntu? xmbc doesn't work
[18:52] <bodly> varanus: hmm...  is plasma running now?
[18:54] <bodly> varanus: the config files changed from plasmarc to plasma-desktoprc and plasma-appletsrc to plasma-desktop-appletsrc in 4.3.0.  so if those are not there, then plasma-desktop is not running long enough to write out the new files.
[18:57] <varanus> sorry bodly i got stuck cause i have no window bordersand i couldn't write, anyway it seems i got the old files cause the names lack desktop part
[18:58] <varanus> now i have only the lower panel without the taskbar, and the quassel window working
[18:59] <bodly> varanus: np.  are all your kdebase and kdelibs packages at the same version?
[18:59] <varanus> i can access the kmenu too
[18:59] <varanus> i think
[18:59] <varanus> bodly: i'm not sure, how i can check that?
[19:03] <bodly> varanus: open a konsole (hit alt-F2 and type konsole) and type apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace kdelibs5
[19:03] <bodly> varanus: they should both be 4.3.1
[19:06] <W4gn3r> bodly: do you know what I should do if 2 language packages are in conflict?
[19:06] <W4gn3r> like, trying to overwrite the same file
[19:06] <W4gn3r> (I wasn't having this problem before)
[19:07] <W4gn3r> updating a fresh install just for the record
[19:09] <bodly> W4gn3r: well, you can force the overwrite to happen.  sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/packages
[19:10] <W4gn3r> I should download it directly then am I right?
[19:11] <bodly> W4gn3r: they're probably already in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[19:12] <W4gn3r> do you know which of these (language-base-pt / language-base-kde-pt ) I should force overwrite?
[19:13] <bodly> if you're using kde, i guess i'd suggest language-base-kde-pt
[19:13] <W4gn3r> I see
[19:13] <W4gn3r> thanks dude!
[19:14] <bodly> any time
[19:15] <varanus> bodly i tried it, it said that i hadn't installed kdebase-workspace 4.3.1 and installed the kdelibs5. so i did sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace
[19:16] <bodly> varanus: did that fix it?
[19:16] <varanus> but after installing it it continues saying not installed kdebase-workspace :S
[19:17] <varanus> there are some packages i think that depend on 4.2.2, cause i tried reinstalling and turned out that some packsges need the 4.2.2 which won't be installed
[19:18] <varanus> bodly i'll try another moment cause i have to go for the moment. i appreciate very much for your help
[19:19] <bodly> varanus: sorry we couldn't get this resolved
[19:19] <bodly> varanus: good luck.
[19:19] <varanus> now i thought that i haven't restart normally after installing kdebase-workspace, i only restarted the interface
[19:20] <varanus> i'm going to restart and hope to fix it. ty again very much, i'll retry in an other moment
[19:20] <bodly> if i'm around when you try again i'll be happy to help.
[19:36] <athena_>  vpnclient-linux-x86_64-4.8.02.0030-k9.tar.gz
[19:39] <mechanic_syndrom> hello every body
[19:40] <bodly> hi
[19:40] <mechanic_syndrom> hi
[19:41] <mechanic_syndrom> how are you bodly?
[19:41] <bodly> I'm doing well.  How are you?
[19:57] <jean_> Hello !
[19:58] <mm_work> jean_: Hi.
[20:00] <jean_> What new ?
[20:01] <mm_work> jean_: trying to find out why they released Akonadi while its basically useless.
[20:02] <mm_work> Or more to the point, why it wouldnt come with a simple DB plugin where contacts (and calendar,etc) could be stored and shared.
[20:03] <mm_work> Or did someone already create the plugin and save me the trouble?
[20:06] <brennan> i need a new movie player how do i get one can someone help\
[20:06] <genii> !info kaffeine
[20:08] <jakob_> how  can y add and remove apps
[20:11] <genii> jakob_: Where it says "Add/Remove Applications (Package Manager)"
[20:19] <torgnyj> hey! Just did an update/upgrade on my 9.10 install and now my mouse and keyboard doesn't work at the kdm login. Something that has happend to someone else?
[20:20] <torgnyj> if I boot in rescue mode and drop to a prompt it's working fine
[20:20] <Pici> torgnyj: 9.10 support/discussion is in #ubuntu+1
[20:21] <torgnyj> Pici: ok, thanks
[20:21] <torgnyj> hey! Just did an update/upgrade on my 9.10 install and now my mouse and keyboard doesn't work at the kdm login. Something that has happend to someone else?
[20:21] <torgnyj> hehe sorry about that...
[20:22] <bodly> torgnyj: yes, things are broken in karmic right now.
[20:24] <boutmejjine> hey  allll
[20:24] <genii> !ask | boutmejjine
[20:30] <boutmejjine> wtf
[20:30] <boutmejjine> :D
[20:30] <genii> boutmejjine: This is the Kubuntu support channel. So usually people are coming here to ask questions about how to operate their Kubuntu
[20:33] <bhaskar> !themes in deb
[20:33] <bhaskar> !themes
[20:34] <BluesKaj> hey genii , karmic just broke on my desktop, even lost the kernel list in grub :(
[20:34] <genii> BluesKaj: Ouch
[20:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, don't think it's retrievable
[20:36] <genii> BluesKaj: If you boot to livecd, can you see any files on the partitions?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> there are some yes
[20:37] <BluesKaj> i can't see the files themselves just the space the data is using
[20:39] <genii> BluesKaj: All i can suggest is ask around in +1 perhaps
[20:40] <BluesKaj> +1 is loaded with ppl who have their own version of broken karmic
[20:42] <bodly> BluesKaj: it's fun to watch them try anything anyone suggests.
[20:44] <BluesKaj> bodly: I use this laptop as sort of backup in case the desktop crashes, which it just did so I'll just wait it out until the devs fix the prob . Tome even for an alpha they're loading the repos with too many apps that aren't properly tested .
[20:45] <bodly> BluesKaj: to me alpha is when you're supposed to start getting stable, not stop being stable.  :-)
[20:47] <BluesKaj> yeah bodly , it wasn't too bad until the last 2 weeks, too much of a hurry to get stuff out.
[20:48] <bodly> BluesKaj: yeah, i would never run the alpha (or pre-alpha since i updated to karmic as soon as the repository opened) unless I had another computer that was stable.
[20:51] <BluesKaj> I think they should block the repos or at least withdraw the troublesome apps before more ppl unknowingly break their setups
[20:53] <bodly> that would make sense.  looks like they're working feverishly to get things working.  but a bunch more people with broken boxes would not be fun to deal with.
[20:57] <avihay> well, now I fell a bit better about not upgradeing
[21:07] <intelikey> anyone here remember me ?
[21:07] <brennan> intelikey: none of us give give a fafafuck
[21:13] <intelikey> i guess not  ;/
[21:13]  * genii hands intelikey a coffee
[21:13] <genii> brennan_: Please don't be rude in here
[21:36] <emo> hello
[21:37] <Primo> hello
[22:04] <dwidmann> why in the world would my cd tray be sucking the tray back in right after I opened it?
[22:06] <dwidmann> I seem to recall something about it being a major problem months ago ... but seeing it doing it intermittently recently has been discouraging
[22:14] <chx> i have a mosue with lots of buttons (goes up to 9 according to xev although physically it's just 4 + wheel which adds 3 so it skipped two buttons)  and i have seen oh so many ways of setting up the mosue: fdi, imwheel, xorg.conf, xmacro and what not
[22:14] <chx> what's the one to use in a modern Kubuntu? ( i run karmic btw)
[22:14] <genii> !buttons
[22:16] <chx> i read that
[22:16] <chx> See the Wikis referenced below for details on what you can do with your imwheelrc or .imwheelrc file
[22:16] <chx> what wikis?
[22:16] <chx> there are no wikis references anywhere.
[22:17] <chx> or i missed them
[22:17] <genii> chx: Likely no one's gotten around to writing them yet, unfortunately
[22:17] <chx> also why imwheel and not say xvkbd ...?
[22:18] <chx> and then one more queston which seemingly is nowhere to be found: how can i map a keypress to a button press and the key release to the button release? like using a buttonfor alt+tab
[22:19] <genii> chx: Sorry, I'm not much help in that dept. I generally just leave the default setup pretty much alone
[22:23] <jussi01> chx: system settings -> keyboard and mouse -> keyboard shortcuts
[22:23] <chx> jussi01: if i press "button 9" for example, it does not do anything in there but let me retry
[22:23] <jussi01> oh, hang on, you need something like btnx then
[22:23] <chx> right
[22:24] <chx> another solution!
[22:24] <jussi01> I assume logitech mouse?
[22:24] <jussi01> !info btnx
[22:24] <genii> Interesting.
[22:24] <jussi01> ohh, it actually made it. :)
[22:25]  * jussi01 should really go to bed, but yeah
[22:25] <chx> jussi01: http://drupal4hu.com/node/218
[22:26] <avihay> dwidmann: there is also the posibility of a mechanical faliure. I had a problem when the door state sensor faild and caused the problem. you can check the drive when the OS is not controlling it, like in the post, or in the grub boot menu
[22:26] <chx> jussi01: evoulent vertical mouse
[22:32] <chx> yya
[22:32] <chx> that btnx thingie was one goood idea
[22:53] <muimota> hi! kate used to have some colorfull codefolding that was really nice . Lately this feature has disapeared , I 've looking arround how to enable it but with no luck
[22:53] <muimota> some knows how to activate this feature again?
[22:59] <primo_pinguino> hello
[23:00] <primo_pinguino> can some one help me with a problem?
[23:06] <muimota> hi primo
[23:06] <muimota> tell me
[23:21] <rionline> hello
[23:59] <bobbob1016> I have a headphone jack on my PC, when I play audio, it plays through headphones, even though I have speakers hooked up.  Is there a way I select where the sound goes through software?