[08:35] <amitk> csurbhi: how goes your quest to get everything configured?
[08:38] <csurbhi> still cannot access the wiki
[08:38] <smb> hm, lets check on your page...
[08:39]  * smb thinks we must fix your memberships
[08:39] <csurbhi> ok
[08:48]  * apw is getting bored of the i915 hangs already
[08:49]  * smb slaps himself in advance for thinking evil replies
[08:56]  * apw thinks you should run karmic for a bit just to feel my pain
[08:59] <smb> Well I run it on machines with ati and nvidia graphics. Which were supposed to be the more painfull...
[09:01] <apw> heh ... how is your ati.  with compiz mine is unusable
[09:03] <smb> I am not sure I enabled it fully but I can't remember any particular pain. I will have a go at the latest packages of the day later
[10:00] <kervel> hi, i want to make a custom version of linux-backports-modules-karmic in a PPA. i'm now using "dch -i 'rebuilt without rfkill'"  as part of my script .. but that doesn't result in the right version number
[10:00] <kervel> is there any recommendation on what to use for a PPA
[10:11] <smb> kervel, If you mean that adding ubuntu1 is not the right thing, probably the simplest thing is to sed it to what extension you want. But you would not want to increment the upload number
[10:20] <kervel> smb i don't really know how version numbers work in ubuntu.. but i guess i need something like blabla-ubuntu1-custom1 or so
[10:20] <kervel> now it changes ubuntu1 to ubuntu2 and so on
[10:20] <kervel> which is - i guess - not fine as it will conflict with a real version
[10:20] <kervel> maybe
[10:21] <smb> In the case of this package, no official version will have ubuntux in it, as it is not based on a debian package
[10:22] <smb> But to make it clear where it comes from, you could replace the ubuntu by your nick, initials or whatever
[10:45] <kervel> ok let me try ...
[13:11] <rtg> apw, did you make any headway on the disk performance issue you were seeing yesterday?
[13:13] <apw> rtg not as to root cause no, i am not 100% convinced there is a speciific issue in my case
[13:14] <rtg> apw, there is something going on with one of mine late in the process. the throbber just sits there for 15 seconds with no disk activity
[13:14] <apw> its entirly possible its showing that a rotating media does not like to be rattled
[13:14] <apw> rtg, that sounds different, mine is rattling its ass off for the whole time
[13:14] <apw> though i think the same technique could help us
[13:15] <apw> if you install bootchart, then boot with bootchart=nostop
[13:15] <apw> then boot, login, and run sudo /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart start
[13:15] <apw> it will give you a nice piccy to look at, which should show you what it hotught it was doing in that period
[13:16] <rtg> apw, ok, I'll bring it downstairs in a bit and give it a try
[13:16] <apw> i found i was taking a 7s hit every boot for schroot, changed recover to end in its config and i got 7s back
[13:17] <apw> spent most of my time looking at this i915 hang, have the upstream activly engaged as i seem to be able to reproduce almost at will right now
[13:17] <rtg> apw, thats either good, or a real pain the ass :)
[13:19] <apw> mostly the latter for me unfortunatly ... fortuanatly it seems to be pretty stable before the first suspend, and gets much more likley after
[13:19] <gnarl> rtg, good for us but pita for apw 
[13:19] <apw> so as long as i never sleep things are fine
[13:19] <rtg> apw, you'r eye'll get kind of red if you never sleep
[13:19]  * apw watches a bunch of startup stuff get uploaded ... bumpy waters ahead
[13:19] <apw> rtg heheh
[14:56] <amitk> bug 427289
[14:56] <ubot3> Malone bug 427289 in linux-fsl-imx51 "hardware clock not saved if board power is removed on babbage 2.5" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427289
[15:01] <kervel> hi, no luck setting up my PPA (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31842410/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.linux-backports-modules-2.6.31_2.6.31-10.12kervel2_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz)
[15:01] <kervel> when i build the packages using pbuilder i didn't get this problem
[15:17] <smb> kervel, Looks a bit more like a ppa setup problem in general. If I read this right the pulled sysv-rc needs an initscripts package greater or equal 2.86.ds1-63 but only finds an older version...
[15:17] <kervel> hmm
[15:17] <kervel> so that means i need to wait and retry
[15:20] <smb> kervel, Hm, not sure where this old version comes from. rmadision for initscripts shows 2.87dsf-4ubuntu2 for karmic...
[15:21] <kervel> thing is, it seems these packages were just uploaded
[15:21] <smb> kervel, Might it be that you accidentally have jaunty in the first line of the debian/changelog
[15:22] <kervel> ow let me check
[15:22] <kervel> but then pbuilder would also fail
[15:22] <kervel> it says karmic, so that won't be it
[15:23] <smb> Ok. Actually it seems to pull from karmic. Just the version number seemed close to the one in jaunty
[15:24] <kervel> on my local system the initscripts upgrade is held
[15:24] <kervel> so i guess its a general problem with karmic
[15:25] <rtg> Keybuk, help! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.31-10.33/+build/1244811/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.linux_2.6.31-10.33_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz
[15:25] <rtg> something new.
[15:26] <kervel> rtg looks like my problem
[15:26] <Keybuk> yes
[15:26] <Keybuk> it'll cure itself after the next publisher run
[15:27] <rtg> yeah, 'cause there ain't no sysv-rc dependency
[15:28] <rtg> Keybuk, so, since its in a CHROOTWAIT state, will it automagically restart?
[15:29] <Keybuk> no, it'll need an admin to give back
[15:29] <Keybuk> colin just said he'd do that
[15:30] <smb> rtg, Somewhat interesting, as rmadison already shows the new version and I also had pulled it to a test system
[15:30] <rtg> smb, what did you pull? it hasn't built yet
[15:31] <smb> rtg, dpkg -l on karmic64 shows it installed...
[15:31] <rtg> smb, -10.33 ?
[15:31] <smb> no the initscripts
[15:32] <rtg> smb, have you ever noticed that were are often on totally different tracks?
[15:32] <rtg> s/were/we/
[15:33] <smb> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:33] <smb>   sysv-rc: Breaks: initscripts (< 2.86.ds1-63) but 2.86.ds1-61ubuntu16 is to be installed
[15:33] <smb> I guess that was your problem as well
[15:33] <smb> as that of kervel 
[15:33] <rtg> yep
[15:33] <smb>  +++-[15:33] <smb> ii  initscripts    2.87dsf-4ubunt scripts for initializing and shutting down t
[15:34] <smb> Just found it interesting that it seems to be installable but not available for the ppa's or buildd's
[15:34] <kervel> initscripts is not installable on my karmic box
[15:35] <kervel> or it comes with a warning ... (you are about to do something potentially harmful)
[15:36] <smb> kervel, mine is a 64bit system and likely I ignored the warnings... Its a test system anyway
[15:39] <smb> rtg, But yes, I guess my jump in thoughts was a bit steep
[16:05] <NakidGirl_With_I> hi . how can I look at the filename in http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kernel/ , detemine that its a dom0 kernel
[16:05] <NakidGirl_With_I> I want to install dom0 kernel on Jaunty 9.04
[16:06] <NakidGirl_With_I> anybody ?
[16:16] <NakidGirl_With_I> I want to install dom0 kernel on Jaunty 9.04 , can any body help
[16:18] <arvind_khadri> NakidGirl_With_I, did you google?
[16:22] <NakidGirl_With_I> hello <arvind_khadri> , since I am from elX distro person , I am finding it difficult to compile one for Jaunty
[16:22] <NakidGirl_With_I> I googled
[16:22] <NakidGirl_With_I> I was looking for some latest prebuild images which I could use, and Thanks
[16:22] <NakidGirl_With_I> I can do that on centos , but jaunty is failing
[16:23] <rtg> IIRC Hardy is the last dom0 kernel. zul?
[16:23] <zul> yep
[16:24] <NakidGirl_With_I> rtg> can you please give the link for that download
[16:27] <NakidGirl_With_I> ??
[16:28] <rtg> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
  thats for ubuntu ,. I am asking for dom0 image
 if you are unable to assist , dont fake it
[16:35] <rtg> NakidGirl_With_I, you are suddenly the source of some amusement. zul - is the Hardy xen flavour packaged? Or is he gonna have to build it?
[16:35] <zul> its package just get it from the archive
[16:36] <rtg> its not on the dvd?
[16:36] <zul> ummm...not sure I dont have a dvd to check ;)
 amusemnest ? Jeez thats something. Hope you had your fill , but then is there some lead or not
[16:36] <rtg> nor do I, takes to dang long to download.
[16:38] <NakidGirl_With_I> Thanks guyzz.. thats why I told that morron that even centos is better ..ciao 
[16:39] <apw> yeah right ... go for it NG
[16:40] <rtg> gosh, I was just about to paste a link :)
[16:58] <apw> rtg, major positive progress on the i915 hanging bugs ... it looks to be a mesa bug ... and we have what appears to be the fix.  proved it was the issue using a kernel  patch which added more validation.
[17:00] <rtg> apw, cool. worth an upload?
[17:00] <apw> the fix itself is mesa, so i don't think we need to panic on the kerenl
[17:01] <apw> i'm just trying to persuade ickle to push the kernel patch to stable
[17:01] <apw> as that does protect us and makes any bug obvious as your screen is poop
[17:01] <apw> i suspect is worth us applying it to our tree so its in the next upload whenever that occurs tho.
[17:02] <apw> right now without mesa fixed it will trash everyones screen :)
[17:02] <rtg> apw, wfm
[17:03] <apw> has the kernel with the ext4 fix already gone up?
[17:04] <rtg> apw, yep
[17:04] <apw> good stuff
[17:07] <ogasawara> ** Just a reminder . . . Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting
[17:09] <apw> ogasawara, ack, now + 50 mins
[17:09] <erichammond> pgraner: Is the daily EC2 kernel meeting going to happen now? http://kernelcalendar.notlong.com/
[17:11] <rtg> jjohansen1, ^^
[17:12] <jjohansen1> rtg: thanks
[17:12] <jjohansen1> EC2 kernel meeting
[17:13] <jjohansen1> will begin in just a minute I am going to see if I can't get smoser
[17:13] <erichammond> jjohansen1: There's a server team meeting still happening in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:14] <jjohansen1> erichammond: ah
[17:15] <jjohansen1> rtg: did you do any config updates for the EC2 kernel?
[17:15] <rtg> jjohansen1, I have not uploaded the source package, but he configs should be closer to server
[17:15] <smoser> i thought we said to do these in -server. oh well
[17:15] <rtg> smthe meeting?
[17:16] <rtg> smoser, ^^
[17:16] <smoser> y
[17:16] <rtg> we can certainly move there. all opposed?
[17:16] <smoser> i dont care
[17:16] <smoser> just i wasn't here, thinking it was there. anyway. this is fine.
[17:16] <smoser> i'll go first if you dont mind
[17:16] <rtg> lets do it in -server since there are folks interested in that channel
[17:17] <smoser> i'm planning on later today publishing the karmic kernels to eu-west-1, and getting ec2-version-query updated 
[17:17] <smoser> ok. moving there.
[17:18] <rtg> apw, patch from Ted in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/e2fsprogs/+bug/427822
[17:18] <ubot3> Malone bug 427822 in linux "fsck says last write time in future" [Critical,Fix released] 
[17:20] <apw> rtg his timing stinks!  38 mins ago
[17:20] <rtg> apw, its not too late
[17:20] <apw> is it worth spinning yet another kernel for?
[17:21] <rtg> apw, probably not as long as thefix is in the pipeline.
[17:21] <apw> and its untested, though it looks identcle to the other, it'd be a worry
[17:21] <apw> we kittened ourselves last time rushing something
[17:22] <rtg> indeed
[17:22] <apw> i'll get it tested and committed tho.  my machine has ext3 it seems
[17:22] <apw> bah its gone manic out here all of a sudden!
[17:23] <bjf> -afk
[18:59] <Keybuk> rtg: did you see that Ted posted an ext3 patch for you?
[18:59] <Keybuk> it would be REALLY NICE to have that in α6 as well
[19:20] <rtg> Keybuk, i bugged apw about it. we can upload if you think it necessary.
[19:23] <apw> Keybuk, i applied the patch to a test kernel, its pushing to rookery as we speak
[19:24] <apw> http://people.canonical.com/~apw/lp427822-karmic/ ... they will be there in 10 mins or so
[19:25] <rtg> apw, what was the chart profiling magic on the kernel command line? My laptop gets slower with each update
[19:25] <apw> bootchart=nostop
[19:25] <apw> then sudo /etc/init.d/stop-bootchart start
[19:27] <apw> rtg just rember to boot twice, the first one after an update is always an sreadahead watch mode
[19:28] <rtg> apw, boot twice after an update, right?
[19:28] <apw> yeah the first one is always slow cause of sreadahead watching and learning
[19:29] <apw> so profile the second one
[19:56] <rtg> apw, should that be /etc/init.d/stop-readahead start ?
[20:07] <rtg> apw, never mind. needed to install bootchart.
[20:14] <kervel> is there any idea yet when the building problems (related to initscripts , sysv-rc) will be fixed ? i'm still unable to do anything useful
[20:16] <Keybuk> kervel: later
[21:10] <pgraner> Keybuk: my netbook is hanging on mounting after updates, any idea?
[21:11] <pgraner> Keybuk: Right after "Running /scripts/init-bottom"
[21:11] <smb> pgraner, Welcome in the club
[21:12] <smb> pgraner, See topic over in #distro
[21:12] <pgraner> smb: in that case I'll shutup