[00:00] <bobertdos> dynavox: Much of the time, partitions get autodetected, and they will mount once you select them in Places. Otherwise, you need to look up the device name using fdisk and mount it somewhere.
[00:00] <sebsebseb> ramis12: 9.04 in a virtual machine to try, and  9.10  on a real psyical isntall, that sounds good to me :)   also   you can get Virtualbox support in #vbox
[00:00] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, now once it's done what do i do, you said we could recover everything from where i'm at and so while it's copying i'm opening a notepad file to list any commands for the promptt
[00:00] <Anaisita> Hey. I just installed Ubuntu and everything works fine except for the sound. It just sounds weird.
[00:00] <LucidGuy> I wonder if its safe enough to give Karmic a shot.
[00:00] <scott_ino2> seidos, make sure you don't keep that permanant on yoru box, wouldn't want you breaking things
[00:00] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: don't get it yet, unless your a developer
[00:00] <ramis12> zebastian i did try but they are awfully quite all the time...i have been trying for 1 month now
[00:00] <scunizi> ramis12: you could also change the networking type from bridged to the other option.. also #vbox is great for vbox support..
[00:00] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: or a proper  Ubuntu tester
[00:00] <seidos> scott_ino2: didn't work for me either.  You probably need to be logged in as root to do it
[00:00] <shane2peru> zebastian: right, do you remember where you saved the ati file you downloaded?
[00:00] <boscop> why can't ubuntu mount hibernated windows partitions?
[00:01] <scott_ino2> which is impossible
[00:01] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: If you want to get it early maybe the Beta  on  October 1st
[00:01] <seidos> scott_ino2: probably, like you said, to keep users from breaking the system
[00:01] <lstarnes> LucidGuy: it should work well enough if you're not using it for a production system
[00:01] <zebastian> shane2peru no freaking clue
[00:01] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: I think it's the first
[00:01] <seidos> scott_ino2: impossible?
[00:01] <LucidGuy> Im itching to reload this buggy install of ubuntu .. but not sure if I can wait till Karmic becomes stable
[00:01] <Anaisita> I have a Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound card
[00:01] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, do you have internet access?
[00:01] <shane2peru> zebastian: on the laptop?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> lstarnes  LucidGuy  well  installing updates from the repo,  it seems won't just give the new features,  when alpha
[00:01] <scott_ino2> seidos, well.. not impossible
[00:01] <Anaisita> Can anybody help me. I sure it's nothing, I just don't know how to start solving it.
[00:02] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: well then Beta
[00:02] <scott_ino2> seidos, i'll just have to put it in acpi/acd.d instead i suppose
[00:02] <scott_ino2> more work for me than simply echoing
[00:02] <zebastian> shane2peru, i logged on recovery mode and from the recovery mode menu i selected prompt shell root with networking, so i'm assuming i do
[00:02] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: or  maybe alpha, but  you will have to clean install  when the final is out really for sure probably, if you do  an alpha
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  LucidGuy
[00:02] <lstarnes> sebsebseb: I thinik there may have been a feature freeze
[00:02] <bobertdos> Anaisita:  Define "weird"
[00:02] <shane2peru> zebastian: we can re-download it if you do, with:  wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:02] <seidos> scott_ino2: thankfully permission was denied for me :)
[00:02] <Reilithion> Halitech: FYI, this is what I was after: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/
[00:02] <Halitech> sebsebseb, LucidGuy as long as you keep things updated as they come out, no fresh install is required
[00:02] <Moloset> hey there team is it any hard to learn linux shell commands
[00:02] <Reilithion> Thanks for your help
[00:03] <sebsebseb> lstarnes:  well  the second dose of art work is quite a bit later on, the first dose has already been
[00:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: that will download the correct file again, and we can install it from there, and that should fix all your problems
[00:03] <scott_ino2> seidos, well i figured you kinda knew what you were getting yourself into ;-)
[00:03] <LucidGuy> Halitech, when you say update you mean keep up with apt-get update/dist-upgrade right?
[00:03] <Anaisita> bobertdos, I don't know, it doesn't sound right. It's like i'm using crappy speakers.
[00:03] <seidos> !ask | Anaisita
[00:03] <Flayke> linux
[00:03] <Flayke> forever
[00:03] <zebastian> shane2peru, you're lovely (I just pasted that command to the notepad file for when it's done copying files)
[00:03] <Halitech> LucidGuy, correct
[00:03] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I hate ati. :) last computer I will ever by with ati. :)
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Halitech   LucidGuy   I have had Karmic since alpha 4,  and  it seems that  most of the updates haven't done much good,  for example I don't have  that fancyish new  boot up screen when Ubuntu is loading
[00:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: do you have high speed, it is a 95MB file so it may take a few minutes, how is the copying coming?
[00:04] <bobertdos> Anaisita: First, bring up a terminal, type in alsamixer, and check your volume levels.
[00:04] <Halitech> sebsebseb, thats why its still not ready yet ;)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy:  yes alpha so bugs etc, that's expected,   and  this isn't the first  time I done alpha, but  like after last time, I said  I woudn't do it untill beta, but  I still did,   next time round I will stay with Karmic as host, and  virtual machine the development version,   and do a clean install as each one comes out
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Halitech: exactly
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Halitech: and you were basically saying it will be fine to upgrade probably
[00:05]  * scott_ino2 sigh... all i wanted was better battery life
[00:05] <seidos> scott_ino2: I figured it probably wouldn't work for me either :)
[00:05] <Halitech> sebsebseb, once the final release is out, apt-get update dist-upgrade should get you the final release
[00:05] <seidos> scott_ino2: I've been running with my battery removed
[00:05] <ramis12> hello again, what is a good company that issues laptops with pre-installed ubuntu...price is not an issue
[00:05] <scott_ino2> seidos, yeah im just gonna break down and buy solid state and get a new battery since it's under warranty
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Halitech: maybe, maybe not,  probably best to clean install anyway once the final is out
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Halitech: plus I got a nice seperate /home  so  that won't be difficult to do
[00:06] <martiben>  I have a problem with Wicd where it connects to my
[00:06] <martiben>                   wireless(can access other computers on LAN etc) but i dont
[00:06] <martiben>                   get internet. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[00:06] <Anaisita> bobertdos, haha yes!! the pcm level was too high! It sounds great now!!
[00:06] <seidos> scott_ino2: I was thinking of getting solid state, but I don't really need it, and don't have money to spend on things that I don't really need
[00:06] <Anaisita> Thanks bobertdos
[00:06] <bobertdos> dynavox: my pleasure
[00:07] <vigo> ramis12: Any PC maker will put just about any IBM/*nix system you want, just a matter of pre-order.
[00:07] <demonspork> How do I get the Creative Fatal1ty USB Gaming headset to work in Ubuntu?
[00:07] <bobertdos> oops
[00:07] <bobertdos> Anaisita: my pleasure
[00:07] <Halitech> sebsebseb, in theory it should but then again my luck with theory hasn't been so good lately :(
[00:07] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you get the data copied?
[00:07] <gordon142> With my Atheros-based internal wireless, Ubuntu drops the connection and reconnects at least once every five minutes
[00:08] <scott_ino2> seidos, the prices have come down a lot though... maybe soon
[00:08] <seidos> gordon142: are you using ndiswrapper?
[00:08] <gordon142> There is both an open-source and a proprietary driver available for the card (that ship with Ubuntu). Both have the same effect
[00:08] <kyle33> Whats the best and coolest graphics tool?compiz or beryl?I got ubuntu 9.04 as guest in vmware
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Halitech: when I did 9.04  and started with alpha6,  I was left with with one or two or so issues from it, untill I clean installed, by the way off topic and I did pm you
[00:08] <scott_ino2> kyle33, it's all just compiz now
[00:08] <gordon142> The issue only occurs after installing all software updates, the card works fine after installing 9.04 from the latest available ISO
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: Beryl is no longer made
[00:09] <seidos> !who | gordon142
[00:09] <gordon142> something in the updates breaks it
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: Beryl was a fork of Compiz Fushion, and then it got forked back into Compiz
[00:09] <scott_ino2> kyle33, or compiz-fusion to be more precise
[00:09] <gordon142> The only thing in the system log is "roamed from <my network> to """
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kyle33: they became one
[00:09] <gordon142> I'm not
[00:09] <gordon142> Just asking the channel
[00:09] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yeah Nividia :)
[00:09] <gordon142> I supposed I should consolidate the entire problem into a single post though
[00:09] <kyle33> Do i just use "sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion"
[00:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, here are the next commands:  updatedb && locate fglrx-uninstall.sh
[00:10] <zebastian0> shane2peru i am sorry i forgot to plug the laptop and battery died
[00:10] <zebastian0> i will need that command again for the driver
[00:10] <zebastian0> i couldn't save it
[00:10] <vigo> !compiz | kyle33
[00:10] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do? :)
[00:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: ha ha, ok, no prob
[00:11] <kyle33> ok will it work for me?I have vista host, ubuntu guest in vmware
[00:11] <shane2peru> zebastian; plug it in and we are going to have to mount the hdd again
[00:11] <scunizi> What's the command to release and renew IP address from cli?
[00:11] <mneptok> scunizi: sudo dhclient $interface
[00:11] <zebastian0> shane2peru i mean
[00:11] <zebastian0> not that computer
[00:12] <vigo> kyle33: That page has most all the data on it that may concern that.
[00:12] <zebastian0> shane2peru that one is still backing up, it had this computer's power chord hence this one died
[00:12] <tehbaut_> for some reason I'm unable to mount an NTFS partition (but not getting any warning) in 9.04
[00:12] <shane2peru> zebastian:  I gotta run be back in a bit, here is the command
[00:12] <scunizi> mneptok: wasn't there another like ifup ipdown.. or something similar?
[00:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: we can re-download it if you do, with:  wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:12] <zebastian0> shane2peru i've got them both plugged to the wall
[00:12] <FloodBot3> shane2peru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <mneptok> scunizi: ifup/ifdown brings the interface up and down. turning the interface off and on. dhclient is just DHCP.
[00:13] <zebastian0> ok shane2peru if you're going to be off, what do i do after i enter that command after backing up is done?
[00:13] <scunizi> mneptok: would they accomlish the same if I'm unplugging from one connection and moving the computer to another?
[00:13] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do?
[00:14] <zebastian0> shane2peru !!! it finished backing up
[00:14] <zebastian0> hold on
[00:14] <mneptok> scunizi: yes.
[00:14] <scunizi> mneptok: thanks
[00:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does ctrl+alt+del shut down or reboot the system?
[00:15] <vigo> ifup and stuff is on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1248734
[00:15] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, if I remember right, that key combination has been disabled
[00:15] <zebastian0> sebsebseb can you help me follow up from shane2peru given command?
[00:15] <Halitech> !dontzap
[00:15] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe  seidos can
[00:16] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, nevermind, its ctrl-alt-backspace
[00:16] <pepsu> Enter text here...questo?
[00:16] <zebastian0> sebsebseb you think i should wait for shane2peru ?
[00:16] <AstroEl> i wanna mount a .iso file to a virtual file!
[00:16] <pepsu> join ubuntu.it
[00:16] <seidos> sebsebseb: I need to pick up the yoga mat that I have rolled up on the floor, brb
[00:17] <DasEi> !iso | AstroEl
[00:17] <pepsu> join ubuntu/it
[00:17] <zebastian0> sexy
[00:17] <pepsu> join ubuntu-it
[00:17] <Pici> pepsu: its /join #ubuntu-it
[00:17] <pepsu> thnx
[00:17] <martiben> I recently installed wicd on my ubuntu 9.04 system, but when i connect to a wireless i only get LAN and no internet, anyone know what to do?
[00:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yep wait for shane2peru   or  maybe wait for seidos and he can help you
[00:18] <seidos> sebsebseb: back
[00:18] <seidos> zebastian0: what was the command?
[00:18] <rejohn> kdeplasma-addons question:  Is it safe to have this package removed from a standard kde desktop system? Reason: I want to have apt-get cease downloading the kdebase-workspace-wallpapers package, because it is large (45MB) for my inet connection. [I'm running KUbuntu 904 with the ppa enabled for the latest KDE package updates.]  It was suggested to me that I apt-get remove that package, & see what other packages will be removed, or
[00:18] <rejohn> When I did  "apt-get -s remove kdebase-workspace-wallpapers" it said: "The following packages will be REMOVED:  kdebase-workspace-wallpapers kdeplasma-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons".  The only concern I can think of is that removing "kdeplasma-addons" might be bad for my system.  Your suggestions, please?
[00:19] <seidos> rejohn: it might remove something you don't want removed...
[00:19] <zebastian0> seidos, first off, i just backed up all my files to the external hard drive, i want to unplug it as i have a laptop(this oen) on the desktop and the other on my lap and hanging from it is the hard drive, so how can i unmount it
[00:19] <libtech> right click, unmount?
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does ctrl+alt+del shut down or reboot the system?
[00:20] <seidos> zebastian0: libtech has a point.  can't you right click the device and unmount it?
[00:20] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: shouldn't do anything in X
[00:20] <kyle33> Is there a shortcut i can use to open the terminal?like cntrl+alt+something?
[00:20] <rejohn> seidos: that's what I'm asking - & i do know this is #ubuntu, not #kde ;) - but do you know if removing the "kdeplasma-addons" would be problem causing?
[00:20] <zebastian0> seidos, i am on recovery mode, shell promt networking mode
[00:20] <beans43> x
[00:20] <zebastian0> no gui
[00:20] <libtech> kyle33: you can set one if you want, im not sure if there is a shortcut by default
[00:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: In text terminal. Seems its the only way to do a shutdown :/
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Or reboot, have no idea which it will do
[00:21] <seidos> zebastian0: umount /something/something
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: well doesn't "sudo halt" work?
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: I cant sudo.
[00:21] <seidos> zebastian0: let me try in my terminal
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: why not...?
[00:21] <bro> zebastian0: did you fix the xserver?
[00:21] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: (it reboots by the way)
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: Sudo is broken, and any attempt to fix it would require sudo.
[00:21] <zebastian0> bro, not yet
[00:21] <vigo> kyle33: You can set that any way you wish, Preferences>Main Menu can do it.
[00:22] <sebsebseb> seidos: he is in a  shell,  uhmmm  read the back log?
[00:22] <seidos> zebastian0: type mount, it will list your mounted "devices", then type umount devicepath
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastian ok, I'm back
[00:22] <kyle33> ok thanks
[00:22] <seidos> sebsebseb: time
[00:22] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: broken how?  Reboot in recovery mode (from grub menu) to fix it
[00:22] <kyle33> Is there something like task manager in ubuntu?
[00:22] <sebsebseb> seidos: ok  shane2peru is back,  so  they can help him I expect
[00:22] <seidos> 4:25
[00:22] <Halitech> CoJaBo-Aztec, did you look at the directions here? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[00:22] <bro> zebastian0: did you fix the xserver?
[00:22] <aleron6> can anybody tell me whats the commend to stop the annoying update manager again
[00:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: Problem is I want to shut it down safely first.
[00:22] <zebastian0> shane2peru,  how do i unmount the external hard drive now that's finished backing up
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: got your data copied over?
[00:22] <bro> zebastian0: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:22] <shane2peru> zebastion0 umount /media/disk
[00:22] <sebsebseb> bro: no  he didn't and is probably going to re install
[00:23] <zebastian0> bro, not yet, i'm jabbing at it with the help of shane2peru
[00:23] <beans44> x'
[00:23] <shane2peru> zebastian0: did installing the proprietary drivers before mess things up?
[00:23] <vigo> kyle33: Yes there is, System>Administration >System Monitor
[00:23] <shane2peru> zebastian0: is that what got you into this mess?
[00:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> This is a mess o_O
[00:23] <kyle33> It froze, i think its vmware and not ubuntu though
[00:23] <naturalx> Hey guys.  I have ATI Catalyst with an ATI mobility X1600 running on Ubuntu Intrepid.  Recently, I got a new monitor.  I now have one 1680x1050 monitor and one 1900x1200, however, when using them (either dual or individually), the catalyst refuses to go above 1680x1050 for the second monitor, even though it has 1900x1200 listed under "Maximum Resolution".  How can I get it working?
[00:24] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: how is sudo broken?
[00:24] <zebastian0> shane2peru, bash: unmount command not found
[00:24] <eary1>    	 	 	 	 	 	   I deinstalled vista and installed Ubuntu and when I did my sound stopped working.  My computer is the dell studio Laptop and am using the 64 version of Ubuntu. I am brave and will stick this soundlessness out but I need to know there is hope.
[00:24] <seidos> zebastian0: umount not unmount
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: sudo[9067]: segfault at 0 ip b7c5db0b sp bfe80410 error 4 in pam_smbpass.so[b7c01000+12a000]
[00:24] <shane2peru> zebastian0: really?  that is odd
[00:24] <zebastian0> bro, shane2peru you surely know more than i do,m i think you might have been right on about hte overheating drivers
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Might just need a reboot to fix, tryting to make sure I can shut down safely tho first.
[00:24] <seidos> shane2peru: he typed unmount not umount
[00:25]  * CoJaBo-Aztec cant umount anything eiteher :/
[00:25] <zebastian0> seidos, ok i just typed umount and it went back to the prompt, is it safe to remove the ext hard drive yet?
[00:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: it is : umount /media/disk    not unmount just umount
[00:25] <shane2peru> seidos: thanks, I didn't catch that.
[00:25] <sandy|lurk> hi, where do I find the Karmic schedule? Specifically, I'm looking for freeze dates
[00:25]  * CoJaBo-Aztec has like, 1 billion screen shells open
[00:25] <resnostyle> hello. how do i stop issues with kacpi taking 99% of cpu?
[00:25] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: a quick Google and it will come up
[00:25] <sandy|lurk> sebsebseb: you would think so...
[00:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: then run wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run
[00:25] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok i did that
[00:26] <seidos> zebastian0: hold on, let me get my usb drive, to test to make sure.  I'm pretty sure (off the top of my head) that it will return a message verifying the drive is unmounted when you execute the umount /media/device command
[00:26] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: hmm
[00:26] <sandy|lurk> sebsebseb: really, I did google before I came here, and I am still googling in the interest of time, but have had no luck
[00:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru hold on i'm a slow typist on two laptops
[00:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: no prob, that is a long link too.
[00:26] <Deathvalley122> hmm
[00:26] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: yeah  it doesn't have that much info on it
[00:27] <bro> zebastian0: try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: also the Karmic channal at the moment is #ubuntu+1
[00:27] <Deathvalley122> does anyone know when another kernel update is gonna be out for Ubuntu?
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> okay, I'll ask in there. thanks sebsebseb
[00:27] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: ctrl-alt-del should work fine to reboot and then load recovery mode
[00:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: after you get that, you are going to need to follow these instructions: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[00:27] <seidos> zebastian0: if there were no errors, it should be safe to remove
[00:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I gotta run
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> ah, right in their topic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: ok
[00:27] <sandy|lurk> peace out
[00:27] <sebsebseb> sandy|lurk: yes that's the link
[00:28] <mmInd_> anyone know if I can multiple files at once using devede?
[00:28] <CoJaBo-Aztec> jrib: I want to turn the system completely off first. I suppose I can stop it before it starts to boot again?
[00:28] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you can try bro suggestion too, but you are going to need to install the proprietary driver or it will continue to overheat with videos etc
[00:28] <seidos> bro: it was proprietary video drivers that is keeping zebastian0 out of xorg?
[00:28] <Sunniboi> hello how is german ubuntu
[00:28] <zebastian0> back from typing
[00:28] <sebsebseb> !de |  Sunniboi
[00:28] <jrib> CoJaBo-Aztec: why
[00:29] <mmInd_> I've got about 100 files I need to add to make a video dvd and I'm using devede (for the first time) to do it
[00:29] <Halitech> mmInd_, yes you can
[00:29] <Sunniboi> thanks
[00:29] <Halitech> mmInd_, how big are the files?
[00:29] <shane2peru> anyone good with installing proprietary ati drivers would be kind enough to help out zebastian0 with installing on the command line, I gotta run
[00:29] <mmInd_> Halitech, really small (like 25-50mb)
[00:29] <seidos> shane2peru: I'll do what I can
[00:29] <zopiac> does the find command search in (dot) folders?
[00:29] <bro> seidos, i understand, that's why i told him to reset the xserver to the default state
[00:29] <zebastian0> shane2peru thanks so much for oyur help
[00:30] <Halitech> mmInd_, ok, should work fine
[00:30] <shane2peru> seidos: he installed something, and it probably should be removed
[00:30] <shane2peru> zebastian0: no prob
[00:30] <zebastian0> i got the following outputt
[00:30] <Azaz3l> sorry i have a problem with aide... i need documentation but not for installation xD i need a document about how i can make my own rules and what is each parameter :s
[00:30] <zebastian0> wget unable to resolve host address failed name or service not known
[00:30] <mmInd_> Halitech, how do you add more than one at a time?
[00:30] <seidos> shane2peru: ok
[00:30] <shane2peru> seidos: he can find the old thing with updatedb && locate fglrx-uninstall.sh  and uninstall that driver
[00:30] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[00:30] <Halitech> mmInd_, depends, do you want chapters or do you want them to run together as 1 movie?
[00:30] <speedeep_> Anyone had any luck getting Ubuntu to use a digital audio out dongle on a Dell Latitude C810?  Maestro 3.  Can't seem to get anything intelligible in the way of digital audio (coax) coming out of the laptop.
[00:31] <naturalx>  Hey guys.  I have ATI Catalyst with an ATI mobility X1600 running on Ubuntu Intrepid.  Recently, I got a new monitor.  I now have one 1680x1050 monitor and one 1900x1200, however, when using them (either dual or individually), the catalyst refuses to go above 1680x1050 for the second monitor, even though it has 1920x1200 listed under "Maximum Resolution".  How can I get it to work?  Any help would be much appreciated!
[00:31] <shane2peru> seidos: here is the instructions:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[00:31] <seidos> zebastian0: have you tried changing the device in xorg.conf?
[00:31] <mmInd_> Halitech, don't really care, chapters would be nice
[00:31] <zebastian0> seidos, no, let's do that
[00:31] <zebastian0> seidos, i mean
[00:31] <zebastian0> yes
[00:31] <zebastian0> to vesa
[00:31] <zebastian0> now that i recall
[00:31] <FloodBot3> zebastian0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !enter |  zebastian0
[00:31] <seidos> zebastian0: yeah, and changing to vesa didn't work?
[00:32] <jrib> zopiac: should be easy to test and see (yes)
[00:32] <zebastian0> seidos, it didn't
[00:32] <Noturno99> i cant install pidgin in mi linux
[00:32] <Noturno99> what library i needed?
[00:32] <aleron6> can anybody help my install these drivers
[00:32] <seidos> zebastian0: you should try bro's command
[00:32] <Halitech> mmInd_, ok, when you open devede, you will be set to add your first video, after you add the first one, click on the add on the left side (sorry, got mine running right now doing a conversion so can't look at it) and then add your second file, repeat until done
[00:32] <seidos> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high  xserver-xorg
[00:32] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -p high  xserver-xorg
[00:32] <zopiac> jrib: well it isnt finding what i would think should be in a .folder . . .
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Noturno99: Pidgin should be installed by default
[00:33] <Halitech> mmInd_, if you want to break it down to say 10 files running together, add the first 10 files to the first chapter then add another chapter
[00:33] <sebsebseb> Noturno99: if you done Ubuntu,  which Linux?
[00:33] <jrib> zopiac: pastebin
[00:33] <zopiac> jrib: what to pastebin? it isnt finding what i want
[00:34] <mmInd_> Halitech, is there a way to add all 100 to one title without doing each one separately?
[00:34] <jrib> zopiac: so pastebin your command, it not finding what you want (the output of your command), and an ls /path/to/what/you/expected/it/to/find
[00:34] <zebastian0> seidos, i got the following output, warning overwriting posssibly customised configuration file, back up in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200909141720033
[00:34] <Halitech> mmInd_, yeah, just keep adding them to the first chapter
[00:34] <jrib> zopiac: or you're not sure it's there?
[00:35] <zopiac> jrib: im not sure its there, and it isnt a single directory
[00:35] <Halitech> mmInd_, I'm not sure what the limit is for files but you should see a progress bar in regards to file size or percentage of disk, when that hits 120 you'll have a full disk
[00:35] <seidos> zebastian0: that's not a big deal, a backup of xorg.conf is fine
[00:35] <zebastian0> seidos, unrelated: can i unplug the external drive yet?
[00:35] <jrib> zopiac: right, but find does search in hidden directories.  But you could easily test this yourself by creating a small hidden directory and putting a file in there and using find.  So it's not there if find says it isn't
[00:35] <zebastian0> seidos, just letting you know
[00:35] <zopiac> yeah, it would have been easier
[00:36] <mmInd_> Halitech, okay thanks for your help
[00:36] <zopiac> didnt think of it though, thanks
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: did you type umount /media/device without errors?
[00:36] <zebastian0> seidos yes
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: then yes :)
[00:36] <jrib> zopiac: no problem
[00:36] <Halitech> mmInd_, np
[00:36] <zebastian0> seidos, whenever you're ready i'm ready
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: what is the name of your external hard disk?
[00:36] <seidos> zebastian0: type startx
[00:37] <Out_Cold> so i was trying to compile a driver... but i get errors.. anyone want to take a look? http://pastebin.com/m4f6dfe87
[00:37] <zebastian0> seidos, didn't work, blue, pixelated strip on top of the screen, nothing else
[00:37] <seidos> zebastian0: but x is up?
[00:38] <zebastian0> seidos...i guess, it went onto a black screen with a  stripy pixelated blue line at the top
[00:38] <zebastian0> it might be up but it ain't running
[00:38] <seidos> zebastian0: kill xorg in a terminal
[00:39] <zebastian0> seidos...er, i was in root prompt shell with networking mode
[00:39] <zebastian0> how do i get out of x at all?
[00:40] <seidos> zebastian0: root prompt shell?  does control-alt-f1 display another shell?
[00:40] <martin_randau> hello. my first time here. is there a specific channel for hardware problems?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> seidos: no he is  in recovery mode
[00:40] <seidos> martin_randau: there is a ##hardware channel
[00:40] <zebastian0> that that
[00:40] <seidos> sebsebseb: is there a way to kill xorg without rebooting?
[00:41] <seidos> zebastian0: try rebooting
[00:41] <bro> seidos: shoudn't he nano on xorg.conf and tell us exactly what drivers are loaded?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> seidos: well I guess xorg isn't even running, since he is in recovery mode in one of those shells
[00:41] <zebastian0> seidos, yes sir
[00:41] <seidos> bro: he said he tried vesa mode already, vesa mode should work regardless of proprietary drivers he installed
[00:41] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: hang on
[00:41] <seidos> sebsebseb: I told him to type startx
[00:41] <bro> seidos: didn't know that
[00:42] <seidos> sebsebseb: had I known he was in a root shell, I wouldn't have told him to do that :o
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: shane2peru  was  helping him mount his external hard disk in   the recovery mode shell
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: and stuff like that
[00:42] <seidos> sebsebseb: ah
[00:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: well I guess you got a back log,  plus   the offical log will be up soon, if it's not already,  with the stuff from earleir
[00:42] <zebastian0> seidos, sebsebseb, bro, back on prompt root shell with networking(recovery mode)
[00:42] <tehbaut_> what are your favorite themes?
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: have you considered booting normally now?
[00:43] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> seidos: that was his whole problem as well,  he coudn't boot Ubuntu normalley since the xorg issue
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: do you still have device as vesa in xorg.conf?
[00:43] <zebastian0> seidos, if i do the same black screen with the pixelated stripe will come up
[00:43] <zebastian0> as in x don't work
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: that's why I asked about your xorg.conf
[00:43] <seidos> zebastian0: at this point I'
[00:44] <zebastian0> seidos, how do i check if i still have vesa in xorg.conf
[00:44] <seidos> zebastian0: I'm not sure if the problem before was from trying to start xorg with root priviledges or the device your using in xorg.conf
[00:44] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:45] <seidos> zebastian0: off the top of my head, under Device, identifier should be set to "vesa"
[00:45] <zebastian0> seidos, no sight of vesa anywhere about, or at least not where i'd put it
[00:45] <Fendarilx> anyone here?
[00:45] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: over a thousand
[00:46] <bro> zebastian, in device, at driver, what does it say? those should be your drivers now
[00:46] <seidos> zebastian0: you have to type "vesa" where your current device is listed (ati?)
[00:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe it would have been easier to just put in  the live cd and  get your external hard disk working on it and move data  over to it, and re install,  but then you also don't learn stuff
[00:46] <pixlbox> if my ubuntu pc doesnt receive any requests after about 10 mins it rejects all inbound requests
[00:46] <Fendarilx> well tell me why my PATH variable resets and my enviornment variables are deleted on restart
[00:46] <Fendarilx> then I will leave
[00:46] <pixlbox> has anyone else had this problem ?
[00:47] <Fendarilx> no only you
[00:47] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: you need to set them in your ~/.profile
[00:47] <lstarnes> pixlbox: it may be an issue with your router
[00:47] <seidos> bro: zebast + tab = zebastian0
[00:47] <Fendarilx> kk
[00:47] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, that's what i had suggested a long time ago
[00:47] <zebastian0> seidos, what is your take on sebsebseb's suggestion?
[00:47] <pixlbox> the only way to get it working again, is if i then send some kind of outbound request
[00:48] <bro> seidos: what do you mean? i'm not used to irc...
[00:48] <seidos> zebastian0: how much time do you have, and do you want to learn?
[00:48] <seidos> bro: type zebast + tab
[00:48] <bro> seidos, ok
[00:48] <Fendarilx> this is my profile lstarnes
[00:48] <Fendarilx> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ]; then
[00:48] <Fendarilx> PATH="$HOME/euphoria-4.0b2/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[00:48] <Fendarilx> export EUDIR="$HOME/euphoria-4.0b2"
[00:48] <Fendarilx> fi
[00:48] <FloodBot3> Fendarilx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:48] <zebastian0> seidos, i have all day long for as long as you have that too...shane2peru didn'thave as long as i have
[00:48] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: you need to export $PATH
[00:49] <Fendarilx> EUDIR is my own exported variable
[00:49] <Fendarilx> for a program
[00:49] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: but you must export $PATH
[00:49] <revenge> can someone help me setup .chd files for sdmame?
[00:49] <Fendarilx> ok im lost
[00:49] <seidos> zebastian0: I have time, off and on until I get a job :)
[00:49] <Fendarilx> i thought path was there
[00:49] <pixlbox> it only happens with that computer thought
[00:49] <bro> zebastian0, to save nano ctrl+o, to close ctrl+x, after you've done editing
[00:49] <pixlbox> though*
[00:50] <zebastian0> bro, done editing? what sort of editing? what should i write under identifier? currently it reads configured video device, seidos, great!
[00:50] <Neroon> Can anyone help with Kopete? It keeps disconnecting when I log into icq network
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Neroon: yeah Kopete  can be a bit weird, hence why I prefer Pidgin, but there's also licq
[00:51] <sebsebseb> !info licq
[00:51] <zruty> Who was it told me to use empathy ...?
[00:51] <bro> zebastian0, seidos told you to write "vesa" in line with driver
[00:51] <scunizi> zruty: that's in the next release
[00:51] <Fendarilx> lstarnes i put path after an "export"?
[00:51] <bro> seidos, right?
[00:52] <Neroon> sebsebseb: I'd use licq, but it has another bug, I really hate ..
[00:52] <IdleOne> scunizi: empathy is available in jaunty also
[00:52] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: export $PATH
[00:52] <sebsebseb> Neroon: What's that?
[00:52] <scunizi> ah
[00:52] <lstarnes> Fendarilx: ^ that line
[00:52] <scunizi> Neroon: try irssi
[00:52] <Neroon> sebsebseb: It just doesnt list me as online
[00:52] <seidos> zebastian0, bro:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/271277/, this is how I think he should enter vesa.  Next to identifier.
[00:52] <Fendarilx> oh and is the EUDIR valid?
[00:52] <pixlbox> checked my router, changed the ip address of my computer and its still doing the same thing
[00:52] <Fendarilx> i defined it
[00:52] <sebsebseb> scunizi: IRSSI can do ICQ I guess not
[00:52] <Fendarilx> on the same line
[00:52] <Fendarilx> as export
[00:52] <FloodBot3> Fendarilx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, ok done, saved "vesa" and now i'm out of nano
[00:53] <seidos> bro: do you think typing startx in a root shell is a bad idea for zebastian0?
[00:53] <seidos> zebastian0: reboot now
[00:53] <bro> zebastian0, look at seidos' link
[00:53] <scunizi> sebsebseb: didn't catch that.. I was thinking irc.. acrynoms acrynoms acrynoms.. I'm going nuts lately learning new one for various disaplines
[00:53] <zruty> scunizi: Yep, I know. And also what the pther guy said that it is already available. Anyway ~~ I installed it and started using it but it seems not really stable
[00:53] <sebsebseb> scunizi: heh ok
[00:53] <seidos> zebastian0: boot back into normal mode (not failsafe)
[00:53] <bro> seidos, dunno, i never done it
[00:54] <seidos> bro: I may have done it...probably shouldn't though
[00:54] <pixlbox> can anyone help me, ??  been trying to sort this thing out all day
[00:54] <zebastian0> ok rebooting
[00:54] <seidos> !ask | pixlbox
[00:54] <bro> seidos, i don't see the problem though, x should start
[00:54] <sebsebseb> seidos: he did
[00:55] <sebsebseb> !enter |  pixlbox
[00:55] <sebsebseb> pixlbox: I do that as well, but
[00:55] <pixlbox> ok, my pc refuses inbound requests after not receiving any network traffic for about 10 mins
[00:55] <sebsebseb> pixlbox: you basically split up your question in two, with quite a lot in between, so that's not that good
[00:55] <zebastian0> seidos, now what happened is i got two wee blurry, pixelated splash ubuntu's and a green pixelated top bar on a black screen
[00:56] <seidos> zebastian0: can you paste a screenshot?
[00:56] <seidos> zebastian0: I have to ask
[00:56] <bro> zebastian0, is the desktop working, or still blocked?
[00:56] <LucidGuy> urg .. loosing my mind my Ubuntu refuses to restart/shutdown at times.  Urg ..
[00:56] <zebastian0> seidos, i cant paste a screenshot, i'm a different laptop
[00:56] <zebastian0> bro, not working
[00:56] <LucidGuy> It used to work , but lost track of changes made ....  so many issues after the the upgrade from 8.10 to Jaunty.
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: you can't read the screen?  at all?
[00:57] <bro> zebastian0, take a picture of the display :)
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to make sure the changes you made are still there
[00:57] <seidos> zebastian0: should still say "vesa" next to identifier
[00:57] <zebastian0> seidos, i'll to reboot for that
[00:57] <zebastian0> bro, no camera
[00:57] <zruty> I seem to be able to connect to here for instance using pidgin but at this time empathy is completely telling me there's a network error, at this very same time
[00:57] <sebsebseb> LucidGuy: indeed  8.10 is better than 9.04 in certain ways, and they even mess with shutdown and logout in 9.04
[00:58] <sebsebseb> not having it in system menu anymore, and he left
[00:58] <bro> seidos, you think is safe to upgrade to karma already? one month should not make such a big difference in developement :P
[00:58] <x404x> !pidgin
[00:58] <seidos> zebastian0: hit ctrl-alt-f1
[00:58] <Neroon> sebsebseb: Well, just tried pidgin. Seems to work. But is there a way to import a contact list out of icq2000?
[00:58] <IdleOne> bro: karmic WILL break
[00:58] <seidos> zebastian0: it should bring up a terminal
[00:58] <IdleOne> bro: #ubuntu+1 :)
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Neroon: ICQ2000  in Wine or?
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Neroon: When you log into ICQ  on Pidgin it should have your contact list there.
[00:58] <seidos> bro: depends what you mean by "safe"
[00:59] <seidos> bro: I'm going to wait for the next lts
[00:59] <zebastian0> seidos, i had to reboot, if i don't start up on recovery mode it simply gets stuck
[00:59] <Neroon> sebsebseb: It's just residing on my stone old win partition. Not working anymore
[00:59] <zebastian0> now i'm back on the shhell prompt with root and networking
[00:59] <bro> zebastian0, so did you try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?
[00:59] <zebastian0> so seidos, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[00:59] <Neroon> sebsebseb: No, I haven't been online with a newer icq and up to 2000 icq didnt store them online
[00:59] <seidos> zebastian0: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:59] <durt> bro, there are big bugs in karmic as we speak
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Neroon: oh
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Neroon: noI don't think you can import the list
[01:00] <seidos> bro: is all your hardware working now?  you used Jackalope?
[01:00] <zebastian0> seidos, the vesa is still there
[01:00] <sebsebseb> Neroon: I don't think you can
[01:00] <seidos> bro: correction, use
[01:00] <Neroon> sebsebseb: Actually that was why I didnt use a newer icq. No need for mirabilis to know my list
[01:00] <bro> seidos, yep, all up and running on Jaunty
[01:00] <seidos> zebastian0: I am readding this to double check vesa procedure
[01:00] <seidos> zebastian0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=890645
[01:00] <bro> seidos, but i didn't upgrade to koala yet, that's why i asked
[01:01] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.10 isn't out yet
[01:01] <sebsebseb> !karmic | bro
[01:01] <Themi> How do I mount my CD rom drive?
[01:01] <bro> sebsebseb, i know, but you can still upgrade to it, even to alpha releases as it seems
[01:02] <sebsebseb> bro: well yes, but I woudn't recommend that,  except for developers, and proper  alpha testers
[01:02] <WB2Colorado>  /part
[01:02] <zebastian0> seidos, did we do it wrong?
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: it should be Driver "vesa", like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/271280/
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: :\, yeah
[01:02] <seidos> zebastian0: sorry, it's been awhile since I've done it
[01:03] <foundry87> If I use custom album artwork from a website in Rhythmbox, where does it store the image or the location to that image?
[01:03] <Themi> Can any one help me? How do I mount my CDRom drive to my recent install of Ubuntu 9.04
[01:03] <seidos> zebastian0: setting it to vesa should allow you to get into x
[01:03] <zebastian0> seidos, no problem you're still one of the sweetest helping violunteers here
[01:03] <sebsebseb> bro: for people such as myself, who are a bit more than the average end user,   it's better really to wait untill at least the beta, but  loads of us will still do the alpha anyway
[01:03] <sebsebseb> bro: for everyone else, the final for sure
[01:04] <Guest24327> Help Wanted!   need information or help with printer on my ubuntu system to network or share it to a pc using vista... pm's are welcome
[01:04] <seidos> why thank you
[01:04] <pyxis> hi, does anyone here know of a good irc client for ubuntu?
[01:04] <sebsebseb> !cups |  Guest24327
[01:04] <bro> sebsebseb, agree, i'm just a little unpacient :) [is that the right word?]
[01:04] <sebsebseb> pyxis: yep
[01:04] <telaviv> i just installed gcc-snapshot to try to get g++ v 4.4 but i'm unclear how i'm supposed to use it. g++ is still connected to the old 4.3 version
[01:05] <sebsebseb> bro: unpatient
[01:05] <lstarnes> telaviv: try g++-4.4
[01:05] <zebastian0> seidos, so i just wrote it out on nano, now what do i do? restart? ctrl alt del?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> bro: if I spelt right
[01:05] <Guest24327> thanks ill give a look and read and try things out.
[01:05] <telaviv> there's only g++ and g++-4.3
[01:05] <seidos> zebastian0: shutdown -r now might work
[01:05] <sebsebseb> pyxis: Xchat is rathar popular, but I much prefer Konversation which is a KDE app, but you can run it in Gnome as well so :),   if you want one for the termianl well IRSSI for example
[01:06] <Howdy> hey guys
[01:06] <bro> zebastian0, do a restart
[01:06] <zruty> I just restarted empathy but even less accounts connect, all say they got a network error
[01:06] <Gabrys> hello, how to disable the splash screen AFTER logging and before Gnome is fully up?
[01:06] <seidos> zebastian0: or is it shutdown now -r?
[01:06] <Howdy> does any1 know how to send a message from your computer to another IP on a linux
[01:06] <zebastian0> bro, doing so
[01:06] <zruty> How to delete the Install icon on the desktop of live USB ?
[01:07] <sebsebseb> !usb |  zruty
[01:07] <Howdy> how do you send a message via terminal? to another guys terminal?
[01:07] <zruty> sebsebseb: Yes, I know all that, but how to delete that icon? I keep deleing it but it keeps coming back
[01:07] <zebastian0> seidos, not working, again stuck, two wee splashies ubuntus and a pixelated stripe on top and everything stuck
[01:07] <teh_bee> echo 'lol' >> /dev/tty1
[01:07] <pyxis> sebsebseb: thanks, i'll have a look at them
[01:07] <zruty> sebsebseb: All other settign are persisted
[01:07] <sebsebseb> pyxis: ok and Konversation :)
[01:07] <Howdy> teh_bee is that for me?
[01:07] <bro> zebastian0, "reboot" command should work too as i remember
[01:08] <Howdy> how about to another IP?
[01:08] <teh_bee> yea
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zruty: I guess your running the equivilant to the Live CD on your USB stick, hence it coming back
[01:08] <sebsebseb> zruty: also if you save something on that USB,  when you  re load it, the thing you saved is gone?
[01:08] <seidos> zebastian0: I don't know.  I would have to read more.  You have an ati graphics card, right?
[01:08] <beatbreaker> what's the command when using Xinerama to get a program to open on the (eg) second screen?
[01:08] <zebastian0> seidos, i do
[01:08] <zruty> sebsebseb: Nope, everything else stays. It's just that icon that keeps coming back
[01:08] <sebsebseb> seidos: shane2peru suggested a driver for him to install ealrier
[01:08] <sebsebseb> seidos: it will be in the offical log now
[01:08] <judson_> hi
[01:09] <teh_bee> howdy, dont know about another ip
[01:09] <zebastian0> there's a log from here?
[01:09] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[01:09] <sebsebseb> !logs |   seidos   zebastian0
[01:09] <zebastian0> haha!
[01:09] <judson_> i installed the mac4lin theme
[01:09] <zruty> sebsebseb: I changed the desktop background, added some desktop icons, switched off the sound and disabled sound theme: All persistent, even made a couple of boot scripts, all are there... Just this one icon keeps coming back, even if I empty trash etc
[01:10] <NetEcho> judson_ having problems?
[01:10] <judson_> no
[01:10] <sebsebseb> zruty: ok well I can't help I guess, since I haven't done Ubuntu from a USB  before
[01:10] <zebastian0> seidos, the laptops getting hot, i am going to reboot into recovery mode again
[01:10] <Neroon> beatbreaker: I don't use Xinerama, but two separate screens, and this works for me in front of the app name:       DISPLAY=:0.1 <appname>
[01:10] <seidos> zebastian0: just reinstall at this point, not sure what else to tell you
[01:11] <judson_> my computer crashes everytime i watch vids on youtube though :(
[01:11] <zebastian0> seidos, do you recomend i install jaunty again and install the driver shane2peru had toldme to, or install 8.04?
[01:11] <zebastian0> bro, what do you think
[01:11] <beatbreaker> Neroon, yeah i was using 2 seperate X displays before but it was annoying me, i want to gety and get it working with xinerama instead
[01:12] <seidos> zebastian0: I would recommend seeing what other people with the same ati graphics card you have would do
[01:12] <bro> zebastian0, you can go with 9.04, works flowlessly on my machine
[01:12] <zebastian0> seidos, how can i survey that?
[01:12] <beatbreaker> i wrote a script that had it opening on the other display but now that obviously doesn't work
[01:12] <sebsebseb> bro: what no it didn't untill you sorted your ATI issue out?
[01:12] <zebastian0> bro, yes but remember that because i didn't have the propretory drivers, it would get overheated and then get stuck?
[01:12] <seidos> zebastian0: see if anyone has written documentation on your card for ubuntu
[01:12] <Howdy> how do you send a message via ssh to another IP?
[01:12] <zebastian0> wouldn't it be easier with 8.04?
[01:12] <bro> seidos, not sure the ati driver problems are just related to 9.04
[01:13] <Neroon> beatbreaker: well I prefer it that way since the 2nd display is my tv, but the DISPLAY=:0.1 <appname> might work with xinerama as well. Tried it? Maybe with a shell or something
[01:14] <seidos> bro: me neither, I'm googling
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: probably
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: since an older version of xorg
[01:14] <bro> sebsebseb, i just messed my x because of bad driver installation, my fault alone. the only thing that's bad is the tearing [no-vsync] effect
[01:14] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: your card is old not new?
[01:14] <seidos> zebastian0: what card do you have?  what model?
[01:14] <sebsebseb> bro: yeah I think that's what zebastian0 did messed up his 9.04 install, because of bad driver installation
[01:15] <Ahmed> hello
[01:15] <seidos> how do coders write code if they don't have the hardware to test it on?
[01:15] <teh_bee> notepad and pen
[01:15] <sebsebseb> seidos: you mean the specs for the hardware or?
[01:15] <Ahmed> yep
[01:15] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, bro, seidos, i am looking for the exact card model
[01:15] <beatbreaker> Neroon, in my situaiton i'm getting XBMC to open on the right screen on boot, but i don't always use it and when i'm doing office stuff i need to be able to drag womdpws across, i can't get the drag thing working
[01:16] <P_Kable> Hi, anyone know how to make a cat5 shielded cable ?
[01:16] <seidos> sebsebseb: is it an R400, R300, R800, X700
[01:16] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: lspci  and pastebin the output I think that will say it
[01:16] <zebastian0> i am on a compaq presario cq40-32la laptop
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: I don't know what card he has
[01:16] <bro> sebsebseb, it's odd that x broke just when i removed the manually installed drivers and got the ones that ship with ubuntu, not the other way around
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: however shane2peru did tell him to install a driver for his card earlier
[01:16] <sebsebseb> seidos: and provided a link for it
[01:16] <bro> zebastian0, lspci | grep VGA
[01:16] <seidos> zebastian0: have you tried lspci | grep Display
[01:17] <zebastian0> seidos http://h71016.www7.hp.com/html/interactive/CQ40/model.html?jumpid=in_HP3D_3d/NBT/CQ40|3DCENTRAL|other
[01:17] <Bluey> I have this coded in /etc/identd.conf
[01:17] <Bluey> #-- User and group (from passwd database) to run as
[01:17] <Bluey> server:user = identd
[01:17] <Bluey> but getting this error message
[01:17] <Bluey> identd[28850]: reply to 0.0.0.0: 63356 , 6667 : ERROR: NO-USER
[01:17] <FloodBot3> Bluey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:17] <Bluey> What does it want?
[01:17] <Neroon> beatbreaker: I see. But then I'm no help for you, since I never had xinerama running here. Sorry
[01:17] <seidos> bro: interesting
[01:17] <bro> seidos, what?
[01:18] <seidos> bro: lspci | grep VGA and lspci | grep Display have almost the same line
[01:18] <Bluey> i am having a problem with identd -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/271286/  what does it want?
[01:18] <beatbreaker> anyone else? how can i get a program to open on the second screen using xinerama?
[01:18] <bro> seidos, yes, but Display doen't return anything on me
[01:18] <seidos> bro: interesting
[01:19] <aleron6> does anybody here know the command to stop the update manager for popping up constantly
[01:19] <seidos> beatbreaker: I don't know
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: it should  pop up when you got updates, and then you should install them
[01:19] <aleron6> well its getting anoying give me the command
[01:19] <bro> zebastian0, what's the model of the notebook?
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the wrong command?
[01:19] <aleron6> and it been popping up to many times
[01:19] <sebsebseb> aleron6: if you have updates for Ubuntu install them :)
[01:19] <aleron6> to make it stop popping up
[01:20] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[01:20] <seidos> zebastian0: type lspci | grep VGA it is easier than that website you linked to
[01:20] <Bluey> aleron  system/admin/update manager
[01:20] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the best way to stop it popping up, is by installing the updates
[01:20] <zebastian0> how do you do the horizonal line?
[01:20] <sebsebseb> aleron6: if you just leave the updates,  it will remind you that there are updates
[01:20] <seidos> bro: it's a CQ40
[01:20] <zebastian0> i mean
[01:20] <seidos> zebastian0: shift backslash
[01:20] <zebastian0> ok
[01:20] <aleron6> but i dont need the updates
[01:20] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[01:20] <zebastian0> it's a CQ40-324LA
[01:21] <bro> seidos, that's the series, what's the exact model?
[01:21] <sebsebseb> aleron6: you might think that you don't need them, but you should still install them, because they are security updates for Ubuntu
[01:21] <mattwj2002> I got HDTV playing on my netbook
[01:21] <mattwj2002> :D
[01:21] <zruty> How to start ... motd for example, or display any other text file, at startup, without having to start an xterm in gnome?
[01:21] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, here's it ATI Radeon™ HD 3200
[01:21] <bro> seidos, zebastian0, hd3200 series?
[01:21] <zebastian0> bro, this is my laptop
[01:21] <zebastian0> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ec/es/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329742-89318-89318-3781140-3894786.html
[01:21] <Neroon> beatbreaker: Just to make sure: Are you sure you're running xinerama?
[01:21] <zebastian0> it's in spanish but it's intelligible
[01:22] <seidos> brb
[01:22] <josh> is there something wrong with the feisty package repo?
[01:22] <beatbreaker> i'm 100% sure i'm using xinerama, it behaves like xinerama
[01:22] <beatbreaker> the settings say i'm using xinerama
[01:22] <sebsebseb> josh: uhmm I guess so,  since fesity is no longer supported
[01:22] <sebsebseb> !7.04 |  josh
[01:22] <Neroon> beatbreaker: hm
[01:23] <bro> seidos, google retuns a lot of problems with hd3200, and 8.10 too
[01:23] <sebsebseb> josh: maybe the server version has support just about still,  but the desktop nope
[01:23] <bro> seidos,  http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=1383
[01:23]  * zebastian0 clicks too
[01:23] <josh> sebsebseb: yes, but why then are older versions still on the server?
[01:24] <Loder3331> what's the name of the off topic channel again?
[01:24] <Neroon> beatbreaker: But isnt dragging windows one of the basics in xinerama?
[01:24] <josh> I have a server on edgy and want to upgrade
[01:24] <sebsebseb> josh: Is it the server version?
[01:24] <josh> don't I have to go from edgy to feisty then to jaunty?
[01:24] <josh> sebsebseb: yes
[01:24] <sebsebseb> josh: ok for proper servers 8.04 is recommended, that's also the LTS
[01:24] <sebsebseb> !lts |  josh
[01:25] <Bluey> okay I will re-ask my question later....
[01:25] <sebsebseb> josh: if your on edgy, it would be much easier to clean install
[01:25] <zruty> Does somebody know the link to the site that explains to fix grub after reinstalling Windows?
[01:25] <zebastian0> bro, can you point out the log from earlier on today when shane2peru was here?
[01:25] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[01:25] <sebsebseb> josh: I guess the repos are still there for versions such as 7.04  since yes got to go through versions,   but they don't have to add other updates to them,   except the server updates if that's still supported
[01:26] <sebsebseb> !edgy
[01:26] <bro> zebastian0, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/15/%23ubuntu.txt
[01:26] <sebsebseb> josh: that's unlucky in a way, if it had been 6.06  you could have upgraded directly to 8.04
[01:27] <sebsebseb> josh: now you have to go through  7.04 and  7.10  to  upgrade
[01:27] <beatbreaker> that's why i'm using xinerama, but i need this script to open on the second display http://pastebin.com/m6064a8aa
[01:27] <josh> sebsebseb: but if I change edgy in sources.list to feisty I just get a bunch of 404 errors on apt-get update
[01:28] <josh> so I can't goto 7.04
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: I think I have been in here before,  when other people have had similar problems to yours
[01:28] <josh> !7.10
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: It would be easier for you to clean install and put 8.04 server on
[01:28] <sebsebseb> josh: or would it hmm, what kind of server you got?
[01:28] <josh> blech
[01:28] <KittyKis> !eol
[01:29] <josh> I'd rather step the versions
[01:29] <josh> I guess I should have kept up :)
[01:29] <sebsebseb> josh: yeah with the LTS's at least
[01:29] <telaviv> I need to have any other version other than gcc 4.3 on ubuntu. How can i do this?
[01:30] <Loder3331> Anyone have any idea why the resolution would be the same on another distro as it is here on ubuntu, but on the other distro, everything is too big?
[01:30] <aleron6> does anybody know a good nvidia card of ubuntu
[01:30] <zebastian0> bro, what do you recomend i install? 804 or jaunty?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: I think most of them are
[01:30] <altf2o> i think pretty much all nVidia cards are just fine on Ubuntu.
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: and then you get a driver from the  Ubuntu repo and usaully that works
[01:30] <Loder3331> get a gtx 295 co-op ftw edition
[01:30] <sebsebseb> aleron6: the very latest Nivida cards though,  those you might get issues with
[01:30]  * altf2o i've stuck with them specifically because the Linux support is outstanding.
[01:30] <Loder3331> like mine, the one I just mentioned
[01:31] <Loder3331> :(
[01:31] <sebsebseb> josh: ok mirrors
[01:31] <dab_> Can anyone help me get terminal to run/look like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17956&d=1161470797
[01:31] <Guest23739> Anyone know how to fix PAM? I cant login to anything, im in the root recovery mode now.
[01:31] <sebsebseb> josh: on the desktop  version,  you can change the mirror and get the updates  from some where else, I don't know about the server
[01:31] <bro> zebastian0, i just switched to 9.04, not using linux for quite some time, so i don't really know the 8.10
[01:32] <Guest23739> su/sudo just segfault
[01:32] <zebastian0> bro, is there another log from when i was tlking to shane2peru? i think at one point he said he had the same trouble and i think he nailed it on the head, what the original problem was
[01:32]  * altf2o has had no issues w/ 9.04. It's support especially for my Wacom Bamboo tablet out of the box, has been exceptional. I see no reason to not use it unless you have a specific reason to stick w/ an older version.
[01:33] <beatbreaker> i need to know how to get this script http://pastebin.com/m6064a8aa to open the app on the second screen when in xinerama
[01:33] <bro> zebastian0, i don't think so, ask sebsebseb, i'm quite new to irc :P
[01:34] <sebsebseb> altf2o: indeed,  even though the driver is closed source hmm
[01:34] <sebsebseb> altf2o: that was in reply to your Nivida comment
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !server | josh
[01:35] <altf2o> yep. If closed makes my product run flawlessly under this platform, then i'm all for it.
[01:35] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, in  your assessment, should i install jaunty or the last LTS?
[01:35] <bro> zebastian0, i'd say go with Jaunty, there are surely improvements over 8.10. why else it would be a new release then?
[01:35] <zebastian0> seidos, do you think jaunty is the way to go?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I guess 9.04 will be alright, as long as you install the correct ATI driver
[01:36] <zebastian0> sebsebseb can you help me install the wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run on the command line once i do a clean install?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> bro: not sure why he is talking about 8.10 now,   we were talking about 8.04 before
[01:36] <bro> oh
[01:36] <zebastian0> bro: i meant 8.04
[01:36] <zebastian0> that's the long term stable version right?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> bro: and 8.10 and 8.04  have pretty much the same xorg or whatever, where as 8.04 doesn't which means at least with certain ATI cards it's better
[01:37] <sebsebseb> bro: ah
[01:37] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.04 and 8.10  have  pretty much the same xorg or whatever above
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !lts |  zebastian0
[01:38] <Neroon> beatbreaker: What does the script do now? Nothing?
[01:38] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, do you think it would work better if i installed hardy heron instead of jaunty?
[01:38] <dsdeiz> how do you do a minimal install again?
[01:38] <bro> sebsebseb, and you think ATI did worse on 9.10 than before? cause it's a possibility, but...
[01:38] <dsdeiz> !minimal > dsdeiz
[01:38] <nkei0> What's a good chatroom to go to for hardware questions?
[01:38] <sebsebseb> bro: I don't know
[01:39] <seidos> back
[01:39] <beatbreaker> the script does nothing, when run in the termial it obviously says that the second display doesn't exist because i'm running xinerama now and it's effectivaly one display
[01:39] <sebsebseb> bro: I know  Intel graphic cards can be a right problem on 9.04,   people have had  ATI issues,   SIS or whatever it was won't work,   and  Nivida  is  :)
[01:39] <bro> zebastian0, just install the 9.10 and if you're in trouble, blame me :)
[01:39] <zebastian0> seidos, do you think i should install hardy heron with the ati ones?
[01:39] <Loder3331> my gtx 295 caused me to have to re-install ubuntu
[01:39] <Loder3331> nvidia card
[01:40] <sebsebseb> bro: 9.10 not yet
[01:40] <bro> 9.04
[01:40] <bro> damn
[01:40] <CoJaBo-Eee> What does /var/lib/samba do, and what kind of bad things will happen if its deleted?
[01:40] <seidos> zebastian0: did you find out what video chipset you have in your laptop?
[01:41] <zebastian0> not to sound ignorant, but my assumption, gut feeling or whatever is that since 8.04 has been there for a long time as it is meant to be, it should be by now more debugged, but what do i know i'm a noob
[01:41] <seidos> zebastian0: 8.04 is probably a safer bet
[01:41] <ae> ubuntu hardy is currently using mysql server 5.0.x, intrepid+ are using 5.1.x - will hardy ever move up to 5.1? how can I find out about these policies?
[01:41] <bro> sebsebseb, that's what i told seidos, i don't think these driver issues are just jaunty-related
[01:41] <seidos> zebastian0: I suppose there is the possibility that a newer version works better with ati graphics cards
[01:41] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: install 8.04 with a seperate home :)  then try 9.10 when it 's out,   I am thinking,  or give 9.04 another go and make sure you install the correct driver
[01:42] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: well you got an external hard disk now,  so you don't need a seperate home as such now anyway
[01:42] <seidos> zebastian0: I know with my intel graphics card, 8.04 worked better after installation
[01:42] <test34> Loder3331, why
[01:42] <zebastian0> seidos, my chipset: ATI Radeon™ HD 3200
[01:42] <Loder3331> I installed the driver recommended to me by ubuntu and upon restart, I couldn't get anything on my screen
[01:42] <beatbreaker> what's the IRC channel for the X people?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> seidos: yes 8.04 has  a older and completly differnet  version of xorg from what 8.10 and 9.04 have
[01:43] <beachdaze> need help setting up a webcam, a chicony CNF7051 specifically.  It works in cheese, but not in skype or tinychat..any hints please?
[01:43] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, you think it might work better for my ATI Radeon HD 3200
[01:43] <zebastian0> is there a way of checking?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: 9.10 yes maybe when that's out
[01:43] <test34> Loder3331, you could have edited you /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the video driver from nvidia to nv
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Live CD
[01:43] <sebsebseb> zebastian0:  trying Ubuntu from  a Live CD is the way to test hardware before installing
[01:43] <Loder3331> I'm new to linux and I have no idea how to do anything like that, and nobody here could help me with it at the time so I just reinstalled
[01:44] <test34> Loder3331, thats what I just had to do after an upgrade in Karmic alpha
[01:44] <durt> beatbreaker, #xorg, use searchirc.com
[01:44] <seidos> zebastian0: http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/browse/product+ati--radeon-hd-3200?id=6832
[01:44] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, bro, seidos, here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004955
[01:44] <CoJaBo-Eee> Why would deleting a printer FUBAR the system? o_O
[01:44] <Loder3331> test34, do you have any idea why things would be displaying incorrectly in another distribution of linux, with the same resolution? Everything is way too big and I can't do anything with it
[01:45] <test34> Loder3331, you'll know for next time
[01:45] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: deleting how?
[01:46] <bro> zebastian0, those are 64bit drivers, i'm not going that far to tell it's the same thing with 32bit
[01:46] <wzssyqa> lib32asound2-plugins replace ia32libs,is it a bug?
[01:46] <seidos> zebastian0: "...i have no loyalty except to eye candy."  hahahaha
[01:46] <beatbreaker> durt,
[01:46] <beatbreaker> durt, thankx
[01:46] <seidos> zebastian0: are you running 64bit?
[01:46] <test34> Loder3331, you could try to use the same /etcv/X11/xorg.conf in the other distribution (save the one that works right on a usb key or something)... are you sure it was the same resolution ?
[01:46] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: I deleted a non-existant printer via settings GUI, and that massively broke the system.
[01:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you need to install the correct driver for your archecture  so  for 32bit or 64bit in your case it's 32bit I belive?
[01:47] <zebastian0> seidos, bro, sebsebseb, my concern is this, shane2peru, said that he had the same problem with his ATI chip, and that it's because it overheats with the repo drivers, that ihave to wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run but i wonder if that will work for hardy
[01:47] <thiagocrepaldi> i just installed slapd (openldap server) and executed sudo dpkg-reconfigure slapd to configure ldap server. it's done and working. However, i can't find slapd.conf anywhere. Where does ubuntu store it ? I am using a brand new ubuntu 9.04 server edition
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Bug 303458 apearently.
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/303458
[01:47] <test34> thiagocrepaldi, did you look in /etc
[01:47] <CoJaBo-Eee> What does /var/lib/samba do, and what kind of bad things will happen if its deleted?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: that driver is for 9.04
[01:47] <zebastian0> thats why i'm asking
[01:48] <zebastian0> if it would be better to reinstall jaunty
[01:48] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: it could maybe also work on hardy, but  hardy will probably  be fine  for your ATI card
[01:48] <bro> zebastian0, those are the latest drivers
[01:48] <ugliefrog> is ther a open office channel ? i need help on a formula
[01:48] <zebastian0> and by the way, that seems to be for 64 and i'm 32
[01:48] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: it's samba: file sharing protocol windows<>GNU/Linux
[01:48] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: the latest ATI drivers probably aren't even made for the older version of xorg that hardy has
[01:48] <Loder3331> yeah I checked using xrandrx. I'm not sure if that'll work. It only runs off of the dvd. It's specifically for gaming. I can't really see anything, so I can't really get into my folders or anything. I suppose I could use the terminal and try copying it
[01:48] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, yes. it should be on /etc/ldap
[01:48] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: why you want to delete it?
[01:48] <zebastian0> shane2peru, said that he has the same problem, basically that his computer freezes when playing a movie because of overheating
[01:48] <thiagocrepaldi> i looked in /etc, /usr and /var using find command
[01:49] <durt> ugliefrog, http://searchirc.com
[01:49] <zebastian0> sebsebseb that's exactly why i'm torn as to whether i should use hardy or jaunty
[01:49] <bro> zebastian0, 9.8 [9.9 version], those are the latest, the same on ATI website and ubuntu repos
[01:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can test your card using the hardy Live CD, before installing anything
[01:49] <durt> thiagocrepaldi, if no one knows here try #ubuntu-server
[01:49] <seidos> zebastian0: they recommend here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004955 that you install the restricted drivers suggested by the OS
[01:49] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Its currupt, preventing login of any kind. Deleting the whole  dir fixes the problem, but what side-effects will that cause when I boot back into normal mode?
[01:49] <ugliefrog> durbin, ty
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: the Hardy repo will have a differnet driver for your  card than  what the  jauntey repo has
[01:50] <zebastian0> seidos, yes but those were the oens that kept getting the computer stuck whenever i'd play a movie
[01:50] <bro> well, i never heared of "overheating drivers" before....
[01:50] <sebsebseb> bro: your looking at the offical log?
[01:50] <zebastian0> shane2peru said he had the same problem, that the drivers from the repo overheated his computer
[01:50] <zebastian0> right
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok  the driver from the repo didn't work, and you ended up with problems?
[01:50] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: hopefully none if you don't use the protocol for shares, better would probably be reinstalling the samba packages though.
[01:50] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: then you try from the website and yep problems?
[01:50] <bro> sebsebseb, no, why?
[01:50] <zebastian0> sebsebseb yes
[01:51] <zebastian0> ultimately i want no problems whatsoever
[01:51] <sebsebseb> bro: oh something about heating before
[01:51] <docko> i have a software raid1, a fail event has been detected on /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2. then /dev/sdb just disappeared, how is it possible?
[01:51] <akn> umm ... i am having some trouble configuring dual boot ... what does root (hd0,0) means ?
[01:51] <zebastian0> i want to run compix
[01:51] <zebastian0> compiz
[01:51] <zebastian0> and be able to watch movies
[01:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok so both caused problems,  the repo driver, as well as from the ATI site?
[01:51] <test34> thiagocrepaldi, find /etc -name "slapd.conf"
[01:51] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: I have several shares, but the settings for those are in /etc/sambasomething.conf, arent they?
[01:51] <Loder3331> test34, where can I find that file? is it /etcv/X11/xorg.conf from my home directory? I don't see an etcv directory in my home folder, with hidden showing
[01:51] <bro> bro> well, i never heared of "overheating drivers" before....
[01:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: well obviosuly
[01:52] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: This has been going on for quite a while now,   I think it's time for you to  install  8.04,  test it from the Live CD first even
[01:52] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, can you help me install the wget -c https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-9-x86.x86_64.run ones
[01:52] <zebastian0> and if it doesn't work
[01:52] <zebastian0> i go back to hardy?
[01:52] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, i already tried that before asking here... it should be there.. i already reinstalled it several times.
[01:53] <seidos> sebsebseb: I 2nd that
[01:53] <zebastian0> ok can you link me to the hardy heron 86 architectuure live cd one?
[01:53] <zebastian0> i can't find it on the ubuntu website
[01:53] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: maybe  seidos can hep you install that driver,  I  am not sure what to do with runs
[01:53] <zebastian0> just the newest
[01:53] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: "dpkg -S /var/lib/samba" shows that it's part of the "samba-common" package, you could try reinstalling it.
[01:53] <arcitens> Is there an easy way to change pulseaudio output devices? I have speakers and a wireless headphones and the only way I can figure out to get sound to go through the headphones is to open up 'pulseaudio volume control' and manually move a playing stream.
[01:54] <zebastian0> seidos here http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ which is the live cd?
[01:54] <thiagocrepaldi> test34, ubuntu 9.04 do not use slapd.conf. i found out on #ubuntu-server
[01:54] <zebastian0> the alternate or the desktop?+
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can download the Live CD for 8.10 if you want and try   that firs
[01:54] <thiagocrepaldi> durt, i got help there. thanks.
[01:54] <zebastian0> sebsebseb http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ which is the livecd?
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: 8.10 is after all better than 8.04 in certain ways that are worth it :)
[01:54] <zebastian0> such as?
[01:54] <seidos> zebastian0: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[01:54] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: this is a good idea to try both versions 8.04  and 8.10 from Live CD
[01:54] <ScarletSwordfish> I'm trying to install X-Chat.  I tried to ./configure it but it said "cannot find glib".  So I downloaded and unpackaged GLib and tried to ./configure it but it says ./configure: no such file or directory. And indeed there is none.  So what do I do with it?
[01:55] <Gnea> zebastian0: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:55] <zebastian0> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.3-desktop-i386.iso <---livecd?
[01:55] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: It seems to have recreated the dir and some of its contents on its own. I'm hoping thhe worst that can happen is I lose my Samba settings?
[01:55] <test34> Loder3331, it is not in your home directory, it is in the root of your hard drive
[01:55] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy  for 8.04 yep  and  http://releases.ubuntu.com/intrepid  for  8.10 yep
[01:56] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, why do you need to compile it ?
[01:56] <zebastian0> will the programs that run on jaunty run on hardy? like skype and kde 4.3 etc?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes that's the ISO for hardy
[01:56] <ScarletSwordfish> X-chat? because it's not compiled, as far as i know
[01:56] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: on the actsual ubuntu site hardy is  also still available as a download by the way
[01:56] <arand> CoJaBo-Eee: more likely, since you're remove a library, that you loose the samba functionality, until you reinstall it.
[01:56] <thorsten11> exit
[01:57] <kevin___> hello
[01:57] <CoJaBo-Eee> arand: Its just databases.
[01:57] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, add universe repository
[01:57] <Loder3331> test34, how do I get there from the terminal? what's the command to go to the root
[01:57] <zebastian0> ¿Will the apps that work on jaunty, like the latest version of kopete, nicotine, kde, gnome work on hardy?
[01:57] <test34> Loder333, type: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf
[01:57] <ScarletSwordfish> test34: is that a command?
[01:57] <kevin___> hey i am new to this
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !welcome | kevin___
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !new |  kevin___
[01:58] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, no, use synaptic package manager,  settings - repositories
[01:58] <kevin___> ooh
[01:58] <kevin___> thanks
[01:58] <thiagocrepaldi> ATI do notprovide support to a lot of it's hardware on your recent releases. my ati raden x1250 do not work on ubuntu jaunty with latest fglrx drivers because of it. damn it. MAYBE it's the same problm you might have
[01:58] <sebsebseb> kevin___: np
[01:58] <test34> Loder3331, then xorg.conf will be in your home folder
[01:58] <arand> zebastian0: possibly, but at a higher risk of problems and more inconvenience of installing.
[01:58] <test34> Loder3331, type: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/xorg.conf
[01:58] <zebastian0> that's it i'm reinstalling jaunty then
[01:58] <Loder3331> yeah, but when I want to paste it into the correct place in the other distro
[01:58] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: what?
[01:58] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I thought you were going 8.04?
[01:58] <zebastian0> well, i want the latest kde and nicotine and skype
[01:59] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: there's a ppa for KDE 4.3 for hardy
[01:59] <beachdaze> anyone with tinychat.com expereience?  can't get my webcam to be recognized
[01:59] <kevin___> hmm
[01:59] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: skype you get from there website,   and   what's nicotine ?
[01:59] <seidos> zebastian0: you should go with LTS version
[01:59] <kevin___> am i kburts now?
[01:59] <kevin___> hmm
[01:59] <seidos> zebastian0: other people have better experience with it
[01:59] <zebastian0> besides i can always try to install the ATI drivers properly with that guide shane2peru left
[01:59] <zebastian0> will it have the same cool compiz effects from jaunty?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Hardy is actsaully better than 9.04 in certain ways :)
[02:00] <seidos> zebastian0: install LTS, get ati card working in it, then if you want to be courageous, upgrade
[02:00] <zebastian0> will it work faster?
[02:00] <zebastian0> will it overheat less?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: just like Intrepid is better than Jauntey in certain ways
[02:00] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: and hopefuly 9.10 will be better than  all of those
[02:00] <Loder3331> test34, I have the file on my flash drive, now I need to know what to type in the other distro to put it where it goes
[02:01] <zebastian0> i am downloading hardy on this laptop
[02:01] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yeah what  seidos said,  and you can also try  your card  using the 8.04  and 8.10 Live CD before installing anything, and then pick one that it works with
[02:01] <zebastian0> meanwhile i'll try to reinstall jaunty
[02:01] <kevin___> i cant seem to be able to change my name to "kburts" on irssi
[02:01] <kevin___> can anyone help?
[02:01] <zebastian0> and see if i can install those drivers shane2peru said
[02:01] <zebastian0> if they don't work
[02:01] <zebastian0> off to hardy i go
[02:01] <test34> Loder3331, cp /media/flash-drive/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[02:02] <AssociateX>  is there a way to get rid of the "Favorites" tab from the KDE Start menu?
[02:02] <test34> Loder3331, (you need to replace "flash-drive" with whatever..)
[02:02] <Loder3331> it's showing as disk on my desktop, would that be it?
[02:02] <test34> AssociateX, #kubuntu ?
[02:02] <kevin___> i cant seem to be able to change my name to "kburts" on irssi, can anyone tell me how
[02:02] <kevin___> please
[02:03] <robb> hello, need some google-fu help, trying to search for info on encrypting an external usb harddrive, have various utilities installed already (9.04) "encrypt external usb drive"
[02:03] <swajr> kevin___:  type /nick kburts
[02:03] <kevin___> thanks!
[02:03] <Kburts> ahaa!
[02:03] <test34> robb, try truecrypt
[02:03] <dsdeiz> lolz
[02:03] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ok
[02:03] <Kburts> thanks!
[02:03] <swajr> no problem
[02:03] <LordMetroid> Is the Ubuntu Netbook remix faster than the normal version?
[02:03] <robb> k
[02:04] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: they are differnet
[02:04] <sebsebseb> LordMetroid: for netbooks the remix would be recommended though
[02:04] <demo> hi - i cant write in hebrew with mIRC under wine, what can i do?
[02:04] <zebastian0> seidos what do you think about my plan?
[02:04] <test34> sebsebseb, he knows they are different.. they would not make 2 version if they were the same
[02:04] <Loder3331> test34, I just tried doing it here first, before I go to my other distro. It said Permission denied. To I have to put something in front of the command?
[02:04] <CoJaBo-Eee> What all functions does Samba do? I thought it just provided SMB shares and stuff, but apparently it does more?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> demo: ask in #winehq
[02:04] <LordMetroid> I am going to buy myzelf a Zotac IONITX motherboard for use in my HTPC/server so I am unsure if I want the netbook remix or the normal one
[02:04] <demo> thanks sebsebseb
[02:04] <test34> Loder3331, sudo
[02:04] <sebsebseb> test34: ok
[02:05] <sebsebseb> demo: no problem and good luck
[02:05] <robb> test34: "easycrypt" is avail on sources...this works?
[02:05] <seidos> zebastian0: good luck
[02:05] <sebsebseb> seidos: yeah good luck
[02:05] <sebsebseb> seidos: ah
[02:05] <test34> robb, never tried that one sorry
[02:05] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: above that was for you
[02:05] <robb> m, hm
[02:05] <LordMetroid> I just want to run XBMC now and than and mainly use it as my web-server, fileserver, git repositories, etc...
[02:05] <robb> give'r a whirl i reckon
[02:06] <DJAshnar> Question : On an Asus EEE PC 701 4G surf, running Ubuntu 9.04, how can I fix the SD card mount issue?
[02:06] <Loder3331> ok thanks test34, I'm going to go try that and see what happens
[02:06] <dsdeiz> !widhe
[02:07] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: It does pretty much anything pertaining to sharing between Unix and Windows. File shares, printer shares, setting up as a sharing server........
[02:08] <zebastian0> what is wubi=
[02:08] <bobertdos> !wubi | zebastian0
[02:08] <robb> test34: apt-get truecrypt?
[02:08] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: Well, currupt Samba config files FUBARd any kind of login (su/sudo, ssh, even text terminals), so something more is going on o_O
[02:08]  * CoJaBo-Eee still doesnt get how deleting a printer can FUBAR the entire system
[02:09] <test34> robb, the good thing with truecypt is that it is also availble for Windows: http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads
[02:09] <robb> windows :)
[02:10] <test34> robb, just copy linux version and windows version on your external drive and you can use it anywhere (they also have mac)
[02:10] <robb> oh i see
[02:10] <robb> well, i think for now the hdd stays attached to this box
[02:10] <robb> but thanks for future pointer!
[02:10] <DJAshnar> How do I get Ubuntu 9.04 to recognize the SD card on my Asus 701 4G surf?
[02:10] <zebastian0> sebsebseb if i chose catalan on my ubuntu install it won't change the outputs from terminal or the sudo apt get style commands right? it's basically gui and keyboard layout settings right?
[02:10] <test34> ok np robb
[02:11] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I don't know, maybe seidos or someone like that knows
[02:11] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: Well, once installed, Samba does integrate itself into the OS pretty heavily, and I know the Samba=Common packages contain some shared components.
[02:12] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: also if you do a thread with loads of details about  your card on the forum, that could be useful
[02:12] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: and about stuff that you did to try and get it working
[02:13] <Loafers> How do I reset ubutnu font defaults?  I installed wine and it f****** up my fonts and this is the third time this has happened.  I even tried removing msfonts and all those fonts but it still looks terrible... Why hasn't this been FIXED!?!??!!?
[02:13] <zebastian0> seidos, if i chose catalan as the default language on ubuntu it will not change the outputs of shell and so into catalan right? those settings are pretty much for the gui right?
[02:13] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: Do you know anything about the /var/lib/samba folder? Deleting it fixes the system to a usable state (at least in recovery mode), but is it going to blow up once I reboot to normal mode? oo_O
[02:13] <MagnoFlux> my ubuntus graphics messed up - how can i fix it
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !language |  Loafers
[02:14] <rob____> anyone interested in helping me with a dependency problem i'm having instaling pidgin on 8.10?
[02:14] <seidos> zebastian0: I don't know what catalan is
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Loafers: ask in #winehq
[02:14] <Loafers> sebsebseb: it also happens when i install msttcorefonts, and when i remove the package the fonts dont' revert back to the original
[02:15] <ScarletSwordfish> test34: i do not see any "add universe repositories" option
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Loafers: purge the package or something, and you can delete the hidden .wine folder in home,  to get like a default Wine again
[02:15] <zaccour> should i install epiphany browser or epiphany gecko browser?
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Loafers: and the menu shortcuts are in  .local  I think
[02:15] <Loafers> sebsebseb: i purged all the font packages
[02:15] <Loafers> sebsebseb: sudo dpkg --purge ttf-arphic-uming ttf-kochi-gothic ttf-kochi-mincho ttf-thai-tlwg ttf-arabeyes ttf-indic-fonts-core ttf-lao ttf-malayalam-fonts ttf-unfonts-core msttcorefonts
[02:16] <zaccour> epiphany vs epiphany gecko which should i choose? google is no help
[02:16] <sebsebseb> zaccour: by default it uses Gecko I think :)  ,but  Webkit is also a good rendering engine
[02:16] <zaccour> sebsebseb, whats webkit?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: even though it was started by Apple who aren't  exactly Linux friendly, but  Webkit is open source so :d  it's also  Apples  fork of KTHML  what Konqueror uses
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: Gecko and Webkit are rendering enginges
[02:17] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: I can't say I know much about that directory. It doesn't look like it would necessarily be the most damaging directory to remove though. Have you tried purging the packages?
[02:17] <zaccour> sebastien_, but how do i know which one to choose?
[02:17] <Esteth> Does anyone know how to get the vmhgfs module to compile for VMware tools on the latest ubuntu?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> zaccour: by default  you should get Gecko
[02:17] <zebastian0> what is the advantage of the ext4 files system?
[02:18] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i should select epiphany gecko instead of epiphany?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: fast boot up, fast shut down, and fast disk checking
[02:18] <zebastian0> will the next LTS have that file system?
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes by default and also 9.10 will have it by default
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zaccour: sudo apt-get install epiphany
[02:18] <ammadeusy> hello
[02:18] <sebsebseb> zaccour: then it will also install anything else that it needs to install
[02:18] <jmarsden> zebastian0: See http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/New_ext4_features
[02:18] <ammadeusy> can i ask basic questions here?
[02:18] <zaccour> thanks
[02:19] <sebsebseb> !ask | ammadeusy
[02:19] <CoJaBo-Eee> bobertdos: No, but it doesnt look like that would have worked. AFAICT, that dir only stores config for features I dont use. So I think I;m safe. I hope...
[02:19] <sebsebseb> zaccour: it's just Epiphany can also now use Webkit
[02:19] <asdqwe> winbox on kubuntu?...
[02:19] <zebastian0> is it possible for me to install ext4 on jaunty?
[02:19] <test34> ScarletSwordfish, you cant also: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:19] <bobertdos> CoJaBo-Eee: Yeah, I'd think so.
[02:19] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: yes, but it's not properly stable, because of the kernel they have and that
[02:19] <ammadeusy> i was trying to join this channel using command /join ubuntu
[02:19] <ammadeusy> but it didnt work
[02:20] <ammadeusy> i had to use /list
[02:20] <ammadeusy> and then click twice on ubunut
[02:20] <zebastian0> !cat
[02:20] <ammadeusy> how do i connect here directly
[02:20] <ammadeusy> ?
[02:20] <jmarsden> ammadeusy:  /join #ubuntu     the # matters
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: oh  yeah  the command I gave that will put a game on
[02:20] <ammadeusy> ah ok
[02:20] <ammadeusy> thank you
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: you want to do this  sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser
[02:20] <ammadeusy> other stuff about connection, if you will
[02:20] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: No problem.
[02:20] <ammadeusy> i am behind a proxy server
[02:20]  * CoJaBo-Eee crosses fingers, and reboots
[02:20] <sebsebseb> zacktu: Why are you using alternative browsers, what's wrong with Firefox in Ubuntu for you?
[02:20] <ammadeusy> this proxy works with http 80, 443, 81 and that's all.
[02:21]  * CoJaBo-Eee waits
[02:21] <ammadeusy> how can i connect here if the proxy does not allow 6667?
[02:21] <Flannel> ammadeusy: 8001
[02:21] <ammadeusy> flannel: do that work for efnet.port80.se as well?
[02:21] <ammadeusy> *does
[02:22]  * zebastian0 installing jaunty in catalan
[02:22] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: catalan is a language?
[02:22] <growlithe> ammadeusy: The server tells you the ports you can use when you first connect
[02:22] <deco> sebsebseb: it's spoken in spain
[02:22] <Flannel> ammadeusy: Ah.  Use: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[02:22] <n-iCe> zebastian0: are you spanish?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> deco: ah when you say that I am thinking ah yes,  since there was this woman...
[02:23] <Guest3212> hey guys...i currently have a test server, and then my actual....now my friend wants me to build him a server and i want to do it....but i want to make sure that any updates he gets have been tested for problems on my server...so how can i set up a repository to auto update from and how do i place updates from the normal repository that i deem stable into my repository
[02:23] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Why not do it in English?   Your English is good enough, plus  if your going to use this channal for support it will make things easier
[02:23] <sebsebseb> deco: well I think I have heard of   it before
[02:23] <zaccour> ok i installed epiphany, now where can i find the epiphany icon? there is none
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zaccour: ah yes this issue, easy to fix though
[02:24] <ammadeusy> flannel: didnt get this webchat... why use that?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zaccour: What's wrong with Firefox in Ubuntu for you?    I also quite like Galeon as an alternative
[02:24] <Flannel> ammadeusy: If your proxy doesn't allow you to connect other than those ports, you can use the webchat
[02:24] <zebastian0> sebsebseb, can i install ubuntu on a netbook using a normal livecd and an external cd drive?
[02:24] <zaccour> sebastien_, epiphany is faster and more stable from my experience
[02:24] <DigitalKiwi> irssi > weechat
[02:24] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I thought you were going to re install on a lap top or desktop, not a netbook?
[02:25] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: Because you say you can't get to the IRC server ports via your proxy... http://webchat.freenode.net/ will use port 80 which your proxy supports.
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> oh webchat, not weecchat
[02:25] <DigitalKiwi> >.>
[02:25] <sebsebseb> zaccour: from my experience Konqueror is faster,  and even Opera
[02:25] <deco> zaccour: go to system-preferences-main menu, and select interent and just check epiphany
[02:25] <ammadeusy> flannel: yes. the problem is that i need use blow fish for encryption
[02:25] <deco> internet*
[02:25] <ammadeusy> flannel: gonna work in a place that they use sniffer for IM and etc
[02:25] <usser> Guest3212, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286
[02:25] <usser> dlp1982, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286
[02:25] <zaccour> deco, i will try that thanks
[02:25] <sebsebseb> zaccour: also    the rendering enginge and security are the two most important things when it comes to a browser
[02:25] <dlp1982> thanks
[02:26] <ammadeusy> flannel: i dont want to get busted or have my privacy in jeopardy
[02:26] <sebsebseb> engine
[02:26] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: Then don't IM from work :)
[02:26] <ammadeusy> haha
[02:26] <sebsebseb> zaccour: not speed or any of that
[02:26] <ammadeusy> sometimes it is needed, dude.
[02:26] <deco> zaccour: you are welcome , tell me if it works
[02:26] <sebsebseb> zaccour: also re installing the package,  should add it to the menu, or logging out of Ubuntu and back in again
[02:26] <zaccour> deco, still don't see the icon in the menu
[02:27] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i need to uninstall then reinstall?
[02:27] <deco> zaccour: log out and log in again
[02:27] <ammadeusy> well. ok. thank you anyway. :)
[02:27] <zaccour> deco, i will try that brb thanks
[02:28] <sebsebseb> zaccour: plus to help with browser/renderingengine market share,  it's  better for people to be using Firefox :)   since that's number two after the worst browser of all IE.   That will also help with web standards support :)  which  helps make the web become better overall.
[02:28] <IdleOne> When trying to play .avi with movie player or VLC both start up and crash. libdvdcss2 and ubuntu-restricted-extras are both installed. any ideas?
[02:28] <jmarsden> ammadeusy: If you tried encrypting IM on my network to try and hide policy violation, I'd probably spot the weird looking encrypted stream, note what the endpoint is, and bust you for that anyway... if you want to work there, and not be busted, don't IM from there.  Period.
[02:28] <jdsandeson> anyone have any luck setting up brodcom wireless under jaunty?
[02:28] <bboru> can someone quickly tell me how to unmute outputs on startup via cli?  i have these ALSA drivers that mute themselves after every reboot.
[02:29] <deco> jdsandeson: what is wrong ?
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaggynl: that's one way to do it yes
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaggynl: not uninstall though
[02:29] <zaccour> still not in the menu :(
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaccour: just re install
[02:29] <sebsebseb> zaccour: or log out of Ubuntu and back in again as I said
[02:29] <zaccour> sebsebseb, so i just uninstall then reinstall?
[02:29] <jdsandeson> installed on a compaq with brodcom and everything works but wireless
[02:29] <ammadeusy> another question people, may I?
[02:29] <zaccour> sebsebseb, i restarted, didn't work
[02:29] <deco> jdsandeson: you need the firmware
[02:29] <IdleOne> !ask | ammadeusy
[02:30] <sebsebseb> zaccour: epiphany-browser in the terminal will also open it
[02:30] <ammadeusy> ok, sorry.
[02:30] <jdsandeson> installed on compaq and everyting works but wireless
[02:30] <zaccour> sebsebseb, i know how to open it and use any other icon, i just wanna find the epiphany icon so its the real look
[02:30] <deco> jdsandeson: as i said you need the firmware
[02:30] <jdsandeson> firmware?
[02:30] <IdleOne> jdsandeson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:31] <bobertdos> IdleOne: For the moment, focus on VLC. You might need to try a different video renderer.
[02:31] <khaled> i'm new to ubuntu and i have just one simple question please, how can i run a .java file ?
[02:31] <migg137> how do i add a chanel to my irc? i am trying to add air crack ng but cant figure out how
[02:31] <tehbaut_> anyone know how to get win7-style app grouping and window previews?
[02:31] <sebsebseb> zaccour: Epiphany uses Gecko by default,  and it can also use Webkit as I said before,  both rendering engines are very good.  Gecko is also the one Firefox uses.   However webserver statistics don't get the rendering engin people are using instead they get the browser.   There will be web developers out there that have no idea what Epiphany or Galeon or whatever use,  but they will know what Firefox uses.
[02:31] <ammadeusy> i'm about to install linux and try professionaly use for first time... is there a proper channel in which i can bother you people with dummy questions? :$
[02:31] <tehbaut_> (taskbar)
[02:31] <bobertdos> !java > khaled
[02:31] <Flannel> ammadeusy: That's what we're here for
[02:32] <ammadeusy> flannel: ok. thank you once again. i'll be back more often, then.
[02:32] <bobertdos> ammadeusy: We'll be here :)
[02:33] <jdsandeson> thanks
[02:33] <dlp1982> has anyone used the addonics 5 to 1 sata port multiplier?
[02:33] <ammadeusy> how do I "unjoin" a channel by command?
[02:33] <Flannel> ammadeusy: Which client?
[02:33] <lstarnes> ammadeusy: /part
[02:34] <ammadeusy> mirc 6.34
[02:34] <ammadeusy> worked fine! hehe
[02:34] <ammadeusy> sorry.
[02:35] <d3Lt40n3> do we still need a firewall on ubuntu?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> zaccour:  gtk-update-icon-cache   I asked someone and that's what they said hmm
[02:35] <notwist> d3Lt40n3: what are you talking about
[02:36] <lstarnes> d3Lt40n3: it is recommended that you have one, and ubuntu comes with iptables and ufw preinstalled
[02:36] <sebsebseb> d3Lt40n3: yes  whatever OS your using if it's Internet connected you should have an enabled firewall
[02:36] <IdleOne> bobertdos: this is what I get when trying to play http://paste.ubuntu.com/271303/
[02:37] <usser> IdleOne, that usually means the problem with video drivers
[02:38] <IdleOne> usser: libdvdcss2 and ubuntu-restricted-extras are installed. Anything else I should install?
[02:38] <sebsebseb> !iptables | d3Lt40n3
[02:38] <bobertdos> IdleOne. Yeah, what usser said, which is why you should see if a different renderer works.
[02:38] <usser> IdleOne, the video card. check if the glxinfo | grep direct says Yes
[02:39] <IdleOne> usser: it does
[02:39] <usser> IdleOne, you got Ati?
[02:39] <tehbaut_> how do I force mount a drive again?
[02:39] <tehbaut_> didn't see the options in man mount
[02:40] <IdleOne> usser: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[02:40] <zaccour> does ubuntu community provide updates for galeon?
[02:40] <zaccour> i mean is it updated with the regular updates?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: not sure
[02:40] <usser> IdleOne, hm, and do you have compiz enabled?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: I think Galeon is one that doesn't get updated much in Ubuntu
[02:40] <shane2peru> zebastian0: are you still here?  How is the graphics setup?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> zaccour: and the reguler updates are only security updates
[02:41] <IdleOne> usser: no compiz
[02:41] <Guest93071> hello
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: your back
[02:41] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: yep. :)
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: we  spent a while with him,  suggested 8.04, and then  he was going to try your drivers
[02:41] <IdleOne> zaccour: it's in the repositories so I assume some maintenance is provided
[02:41] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: it's in the offical logs if your interested  15th and 14th
[02:42] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: yep, the proprietary drivers is the only way to get that ati card working with ubuntu, even then mine still overheated when I tried processing videos
[02:42] <Dominik1> can I set all my files on a disk (not the system disk) to read only, however allow users to add additonal files? that would mean the folders can be written to but each individual file is read only, is this possible?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: well our stuff when you weren't here is I guess in the 15th only or whatever
[02:42] <khaled> i'm unable to open .java files!
[02:42] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: hmm, I'm not familiar with logs or anything like that, I'm not much of an irc-er
[02:42] <IdleOne> usser: honestly I think compiz is nice but becomes a distraction so I don't bother
[02:42] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: sure, but the one in hardware drivers should have been the propritary one  from the repo
[02:43] <shane2peru> !logs
[02:43] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yeah I was going to do that
[02:43] <ammadeusy> ;part
[02:43] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: plus your client has a log I guess
[02:43] <usser> IdleOne, hm that is strange that it gives you that error then
[02:43] <d3Lt40n3> ubotto: so you mean when i boot ubuntu, the firewall is already started?bytheway,im using firestarter gui for my firewall
[02:43] <bobertdos> khaled: You mean just source files? What are you using?
[02:43] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I monitored my temps, and my computer ran about 10 degrees C lower with the proprietary drivers installed, even at idle.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !bot |  d3Lt40n3
[02:44] <zebastian0> how do i get the language packages, i installed ubuntu in catalan but it says it's got incomplete language packages
[02:44] <IdleOne> usser: not to mention if I try to enable 3d graphics it tells me none available
[02:44] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: wow, that is some serious log keeping. :)
[02:44] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: have you got rid of your 9.04 install yet?
[02:44] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: indeed
[02:45] <bobertdos> !pm > khaled
[02:45] <IdleOne> usser: but like I said I don't need 3d or compiz
[02:45] <d3Lt40n3> oppss!!im talking to a bot..
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  d3Lt40n3
[02:45] <zebastian0> sebsebseb yes i installed jaunty again, and now i'm trying to get the remaining language packages to install it in catalan
[02:45] <sebsebseb> d3Lt40n3: you didn't put thanks, but  it's !thanks  reply works for what you put :D
[02:45] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I'm back. :)
[02:45] <d3Lt40n3> thanks
[02:45] <IdleOne> usser: any other ideas?
[02:46] <khaled> bobertdos: yes just the source files!
[02:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: As I already suggested, why not do it in English?
[02:46] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you are still going to need to install the proprietary drivers
[02:46] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: the ati drivers in the repos are old or something, not sure.
[02:46] <zebastian0> sebsebseb because i don't speak english
[02:46] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: Your English is good enough, and it will make  support easier, if your going to use this channal for it
[02:46] <usser> IdleOne, try a different renderer. like X11
[02:46] <bobertdos> khaled: If you have to, right-click to use gedit. I like jEdit, but of course to use jEdit to its fullest, you want to install Sun Java first.
[02:46] <IdleOne> usser: explain please
[02:46] <seidos> zebastian0: you type english but don't speak english?
[02:46] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you don't speak English???, you had me fooled. :)
[02:46] <Ashy> hello
[02:46] <Ashy> has anyone here used xen with ubuntu?
[02:46] <zebastian0> SHANE2PERU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> I cant even read english! :)
[02:47]  * zebastian0 embraces shane to peru
[02:47] <IdleOne> Ashy: ask your next question which is the real one :)
[02:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: heh
[02:47] <shane2peru> Dr_Willis: lol :)
[02:47] <Ashy> i can't seem to get my internet working after installing xen on ubuntu 8.04
[02:47]  * zebastian0 reinstalls english ubuntu jauynty
[02:47] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: zebastian0 just tried to make you famous :D
[02:47] <usser> IdleOne, there are different "ways" to render a video on linux, there's xvideo that you use, opengl, x11, and some others
[02:47] <Ashy> ive also tried ubuntu 9.04
[02:47] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: lol, he can try, I'm not sure it will work
[02:47] <usser> IdleOne, try a different renderer, X11, it should be somewhere in the players settings
[02:47] <zebastian0> shane2peru, i need you to help me install those drivers
[02:47] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: you can also change the language some how to English
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !xen
[02:47] <seidos> zebastian0: hahaha
[02:47] <Bluey> I am having a problem with irc ident server (pidentd) could some one take a look at this and tell me what I am doing wrong?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/271286/
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, you have a fresh install, and are ready to go?
[02:48] <IdleOne> usser: ok lemme poke around
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you even have a desktop to work with this time?
[02:48] <kevin___> hello
[02:48] <zebastian0> shane2peru nope, just in the process of doing the fresh install
[02:48] <Ashy> Dr_Willis, cheers man
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: did you start yet?
[02:48] <zebastian0> the fresh install?
[02:48] <shane2peru> zebastian0: right, the new install
[02:49] <IdleOne> usser and bobertdos thank you for your help :)
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0:  there is a way to change the install to ENglish
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: ,but since your going to be mainly using the terminal anyway
[02:49] <zebastian0> shane2peru i'm in the midst of it, i am doing hte fresh install agian
[02:49] <zebastian0> in english
[02:49] <sebsebseb> zebastian0: I guess right now it  doesn't really matter
[02:49] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I think if we install the ati drivers, it may fix the problem, but I'm not sure what all has been changed now
[02:49] <usser> IdleOne, but X11 doesnt support proper video scaling, ie no full screen  :)
[02:49] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, that is fine, we will get the drivers installed the right way thist ime
[02:49] <seidos> shane2peru: do you have an ati card?
[02:49] <tehbaut_> mount -f /dev/sda2 ...says... "can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[02:49] <guest9214> How do you change the look of the bootlader? Right now ubuntu is first, and i want my vista install #1
[02:50] <sebsebseb> guest9214: why Vista first, and that's easy to change
[02:50] <tehbaut_> so how can I mount /dev/sda2 ?
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: I have the same card he has actually
[02:50] <IdleOne> usser: the sacrifices we have to make.... :)
[02:50] <seidos> shane2peru: cool
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: well, mine is one number off, but same driver
[02:50] <seidos> shane2peru: good luck
[02:50] <sebsebseb> seidos: yeah that's what you said earlier,   he should have someone that has the same card helping him
[02:50] <shane2peru> seidos: my laptop overheated with over 5 or 6 different distros I installed trying to fix the prob
[02:50] <guest9214> sebsebseb: so if i leave it accidentally, it'll boot to vista instead of ubuntu
[02:50] <sebsebseb> seidos: not using your exact wording just then
[02:50] <tehbaut_> mount -f /dev/sda2 ...says... "can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ...so how can I mount /dev/sda2 ?
[02:51] <usser> IdleOne, you dont have to, xvideo should work with intel cards, unless the pc is really really old
[02:51] <seidos> shane2peru: I remember you talking to sebsebseb about it after sebsebseb directed me to the #ubuntu logs
[02:51] <Bluey> teh -- do you have a mount point?
[02:51] <tehbaut_> maybe not
[02:51] <IdleOne> usser: pc is a couple years old
[02:51] <Bluey> mkdir <mountpoint goes here?
[02:51] <seidos> shane2peru: what are you running now?  os wise?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> guest9214: yes ok, but I am curious as to why you want Vista as the default boot
[02:51] <shane2peru> seidos: running Suse on the laptop, but my main box has Ubuntu
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: still not fixed, been considering putting Koala on there just for kicks
[02:52] <seidos> shane2peru: what brand laptop?
[02:52] <tehbaut_> Bluey: wondering why ubuntu won't do all that in gui though?
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: Toshiba Satellite
[02:52] <sebsebseb> guest9214: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <Bluey> teh - that's all done at the comand line
[02:52] <khaled> bobertdos:ok i downloaded jedit & java runtime environment, but still it opens just like a text file, it doesn't "execute" anything!?
[02:52] <shane2peru> seidos: it is AMD processor, ATI drivers, and the worse laptop I have ever installed Linux on.
[02:52] <seidos> shane2peru: I have a satellite, intel graphics though
[02:52] <guest9214> vista has all of my documents and programs, and i'm using ubuntu to learn linux commands
[02:53] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: vista as default boot so mom and dad/wife/gf don't freak out when something they don't know boots up :)
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: I have an old Toshiba has always run great with Linux
[02:53] <sebsebseb> guest9214: I see well as long as Vista shut itself down properly, you can access and use that partition from Ubuntu
[02:53] <tehbaut_> Bluey: only one of four partitions actually mounted on its own (via the UI)
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: also intel
[02:53] <tehbaut_> kinda odd
[02:53] <tehbaut_> no error messages either
[02:53] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: not this time by the sounds of it
[02:53] <seidos> shane2peru: do you use it?
[02:53] <shane2peru> seidos: the kids do now, it has been dropped, dumped on, etc. still kicking
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: I know, i can and have, that's just what i want
[02:54] <usser> IdleOne, can you pastebin the output of glxinfo and uname -a and lsb_release -a and lspci | grep VGA commands
[02:54] <seidos> shane2peru: cool
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok  I already  told you how to access the file you need to edit
[02:54] <usser> IdleOne, lets see whats up
[02:54] <kevin___> hi
[02:54] <shane2peru> seidos: I bought it with warranty, and got my money back when the screen on it died
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: ok, so i entered the cmd into terminal, now what?
[02:54] <Bluey> teh -- do you have a mount point?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: it should have opended up the file
[02:54] <IdleOne> usser: sure gimme a minute
[02:54] <kevin___> what is the rename command, sorry i had it a little while ago, i just forgot it
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: yes
[02:54] <sebsebseb> guest9214: after you put your password in as well
[02:54] <guest9214> sebsebseb: got it
[02:55] <shane2peru> seidos: put a screen in it, and it just keeps running.
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, mv
[02:55] <sebsebseb> guest9214: at the bottom there should be Ubuntu and Vista
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, mv oldname newname
[02:55] <quartknee> If I download tar.gz packages for third-party apps, how can I install them via terminal? I've tried all the basic commands but continue getting error messages.
[02:55] <kevin___> what
[02:55] <kevin___> ?
[02:55] <Myth`> 1337 people in room. Awesome.
[02:55] <seidos> shane2peru: I set up an old dell as a webserver
[02:55] <Myth`> Any audio experts in the channel?
[02:55] <usser> kevin___, the rename command is mv
[02:55] <shane2peru> kevin___: mv is basically the same as rename
[02:55] <kevin___> ooooh
[02:55] <kevin___> thanks
[02:55] <Bluey> kevin mv filea fileb
[02:55] <guest9214> sebsebseb: i see "# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
[02:55] <guest9214> # on /dev/sda3
[02:55] <guest9214> title		Windows Vista (loader)
[02:55] <guest9214> rootnoverify	(hd0,2)
[02:55] <guest9214> savedefault
[02:55] <FloodBot3> guest9214: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <guest9214> makeactive
[02:55] <sebsebseb> guest9214: in those enteries put  Vista  as the first one,  that should take care of it,   also hopefuly you will change it back soon :)  ,because you will be more comfortable with Ubuntu
[02:56] <kevin___> am i kburts now?
[02:56] <tehbaut_> Bluey: a mount point was automatically created by ubuntu's GUI for the other partition, I don't know why I have to create a mountpoint and mount manually, but if you don't know why that could be then I'll continue doing it that way
[02:56] <shane2peru> seidos: I my main box as a server for a while, was a lot of work to get the ports forwarded through router etc, finally quit messing with it.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> guest9214: updating Grub or maybe even installing a newer kernel,  will make it not be default boot anymore, but then you can edit the file again
[02:57] <Bluey> teh o I don't sorry - I just know that works....ru using automount?
[02:57] <rashed2020> Would this make a working bash script? http://pastebin.com/m77d7e7cf .. It runs fine but doesn't do what the second and third line are supposed to.
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: he didn't move his entry did he?
[02:57] <fez> ahahahahaha @ Windows Vista
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: on grub?
[02:57] <kevin___> oooh i see, i asked the question
[02:57] <kevin___> wrong
[02:57] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: no it's  at the bottom by default like that or whatever
[02:57] <kevin___> how do i rename myself in irc? like that's the /... command?
[02:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: ok, I lost mine once doing that. :)
[02:57] <Gaming4JC> Hello All, just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on dual boot with Vista and all was great. Then I installed an ATI Radeon graphics driver FGLRX? And Ubuntu fails to boot and looks garbled <-- HELP! lol
[02:57] <IdleOne> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271311/
[02:58] <tehbaut_> Bluey: if that's what Nautilis uses, then yes
[02:58] <seidos> kevin___: /nick
[02:58] <shane2peru> kevin___: ha ha, we thought you meant via terminal. :)  lol
[02:58] <kevin___> thanks!
[02:58] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: hmm looks like Gaming4JC  has an issue for you :D
[02:58] <kevin___> yes sorryu
[02:58] <kevin___> i asked it way wrong
[02:58] <Gaming4JC> I used Recovery Mode and attempted to fix Xorg Graphics driver, it failed. :(
[02:58] <usser> IdleOne, yep the driver is messed up
[02:58] <Bluey> teh -- no it must be instructed to use automount --
[02:58] <Kburts> ahaa i is now KBURTS!!
[02:58] <IdleOne> usser: how do I fix it?
[02:59] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: what graphics card do you have?
[02:59] <IdleOne> usser: or is it part of the known intel regression?
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> ATI Radeon 4820 HD Sapphire
[02:59] <chickenhead> hi
[02:59] <sebsebseb> guest9214: have you sorted it out now?
[02:59] <tehbaut_> Bluey: so how does Nautilis normally mount partitions?
[02:59] <khaled> could anyone help please? i need to "execute" a java source file (.java file) , how can i do this?
[02:59] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: I hate ATI :)
[02:59] <usser> IdleOne, i've had that on fedora 11 and it was because of a crippled driver that they shipped
[02:59] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how did it get messed up?
[02:59] <usser> IdleOne, pastebin you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:59] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: * Radeon HD 4870 Sapphire
[02:59] <sebsebseb> guest9214: and # and ## are just comments, it doesn't use stuff that is commented
[02:59] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: they love you :D
[03:00] <fiber> p
[03:00] <sebsebseb> !love > shane2peru
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: I installed the propietry drivers.
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> Now nothing boots...
[03:00] <Gaming4JC> let me get the package names
[03:00] <shane2peru> sebsebseb: lol
[03:00] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[03:00] <tehbaut_> !love > tehbaut_
[03:00] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: :)
[03:00] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how did you install the proprietary drivers
[03:00] <shane2peru> ?
[03:01] <IdleOne> usser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271313/
[03:01] <guest9214> Yes, i just have to reboot now. Thanks, man!
[03:01] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I have dial-up so I installed them via packages then went into System>> Hardware and activated. After restart it failed. Packages were all of the above listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[03:02] <Kburts> hmm
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> I'm running on Vista now since Ubuntu is borked
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> :P
[03:02] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: so you just installed them from the repo?
[03:02] <Kburts> andone here using irssi?
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: yes
[03:02] <Kburts> *anyone
[03:02] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I mean you didn't go downloading them from anywhere right?
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I downloaded them from this url: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fglrx&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[03:02] <Gaming4JC> and installed them in order
[03:03] <Kburts> wekk
[03:03] <IdleOne> Kburts: ask your next question. The one you want the answer to :)
[03:03] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I recommend you install the ones from the ATI web site, it is probably close to 100MB download
[03:03] <Kburts> well
[03:03] <Kburts> oooh
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: bummer I have dial-up - just made a trip to get them on highspeed.
[03:03] <beatbreak> what's the command to move the mouse pointer to a certian geometry?
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> lol
[03:03] <usser> IdleOne, line 154 (**) intel(0): DRI is disabled because it fails to run without freezing on i810 and i865G chips. (See LP 304871)
[03:03] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Meanwhile how can I uninstall these things
[03:04] <usser> IdleOne, as it says see LP 304871, im assuming its a bug report number
[03:04] <IdleOne> usser: yes it is
[03:04] <usser> IdleOne, you may try enabling UXA instead of EXA but i doubt it will help
[03:04] <quartknee> Hello! How do I use terminal to install tarballs? Is it possible to install things outside of the sources.list?
[03:05] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: hmm, let me think about that one, installing the web site ones I know how to do, but uninstalling those, let me search the repos.
[03:05] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: you can boot into terminal right?  recovery mode terminal and get a command line?
[03:05] <usser> IdleOne, add this line to your Device section in xorg.conf         Option          "AccelMethod"           "UXA" like here http://pastebin.com/m303158ff
[03:06] <digilord> Does the utility still exist that lets you choose what OS you want to boot on next reboot?
[03:06] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok thanks - right now I borked it so bad it won't boot even in recovry mode. Just shows up with lines all over the screen and won't give me access to a terminal
[03:06] <beatbreak> what's the command to move the mouse pointer to a certian geometry?
[03:06] <MrSchmo> hey guys im going to upgrade to firefox 3.5 and was wondering if its better and more stable than firefox 3?
[03:06] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: when grub comes up, hit e and you can edit the boot line, the main boot line add a 3 to the end and it should leave you in terminal
[03:06] <guest9214> sebsebseb: I asked you about the bootloader. It worked, but now windows has made its own bootloader so i have two now, both that allow me to do the same thing
[03:06] <usser> IdleOne, you're on 9.04 right?
[03:07] <IdleOne> usser: yes
[03:07] <eboyjr> Hi. Can I have /dev/tty6 be an automatic remote login to my server?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> guest9214: oh
[03:07] <usser> IdleOne, yea so try UXA
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok that sounds good.
[03:07] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: I assume you are working on a separate computer?
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> no
[03:07] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok is  that a proper psyiical install, or did you use Wubi?
[03:07] <guest9214> what should i do? either one works
[03:07] <zebastian0> shane2peru, i am right about to finish the clean install, i have to do what's noted in response 21 on this thread first though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/364706
[03:07] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: dual booting... :-/
[03:07] <zer0rez> i'm trying to activate my nvidia accelerated graphics drivers and i get an error that the jokey backend has crashed
[03:08] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: hmm, that is going to make it difficult,
[03:08] <guest9214> physical. I have a dediacated partiton
[03:08] <Gaming4JC> :(
[03:08] <sebsebseb> guest9214: ok pastebin  your menu.lst file and i'll take a look
[03:08] <guest9214> what was the terminal command again?
[03:08] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: ok, I can give you the instructions and you are going to have to write them down and type them in
[03:09] <Gaming4JC> ok will do
[03:09] <IdleOne> user I can't find Section "Device"
[03:09] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: we are going into uncharted waters for me, so I can't promise this will work, but it may
[03:09] <IdleOne> usser: I can't find Section "Device"
[03:09] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: after you type 3 on the grub boot menu, hit b for boot and it should leave you at a command prompt
[03:09] <usser> IdleOne, in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:10] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: sounds good for me. Then what :)
[03:10] <IdleOne> usser: :)
[03:10] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: then we are going to remove what you installed and see what happens with a reboot
[03:10] <usser> IdleOne, found it?
[03:10] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: sudo apt-get remove fglrx-*
[03:10] <IdleOne> usser: yes
[03:11] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: writing that down now...
[03:11] <mow> lol...this chan is hard to follow
[03:11] <sebsebseb> mow: it can be yes
[03:11] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: then type reboot and try to boot into it again the normal way and see if that works, I have my doubts about it, but lets try that.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> mow: hence why we autocomplete
[03:11] <shane2peru> zebastian0: looking now
[03:11] <IdleOne> usser: ok, edited. restart X?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> mow: and put peoples names in our messages so their IRC clients highlight the message
[03:12] <mow> sebsebseb > i realize this
[03:12] <shane2peru> zebastian0: hmm, that looks like a sound fix, not graphics, you mean to fix graphics?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> guest9214: no I don't want to go pm with you at the moment, maybe later.  gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  guest9214
[03:12] <mow> still can be hard
[03:13] <mow> lol
[03:13] <guest9214> oh, sorry
[03:13] <sebsebseb> guest9214: np
[03:13] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: ok I'm going to go for it
[03:14] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: I'll be back after testing. reboot pending
[03:14] <Gaming4JC> thanks!
[03:14] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: no prob, I should be here
[03:14] <cmdbbq> is it possible to share files over nfs from 8.04 to 9.04? there is no inherent reason this should  fail, correct?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> cmdbbq: indeed
[03:14] <cmdbbq> hmmm
[03:15] <guest9214> umm, sorry for being a noob, but how do you pastebin?
[03:15] <Biovore> !pastebin
[03:15] <cmdbbq> is there any reason it would fail because the directory i am trying to share is an external drive?
[03:16] <DasEi> cmdbbq: the mountpoint could change, unless you use fstab > uuid
[03:16] <cached> how would one go about changing the 9.04 loading bar back to the to the 8.10 one?
[03:16] <guest9214> Ok, got it http://paste.ubuntu.com/271317/
[03:17] <cmdbbq> sebsebseb: where could i go to learn from the beginning how to set up nfs properly?
[03:17] <cmdbbq> or DasEi
[03:17] <sebsebseb> cmdbbq: I don't know
[03:17] <sebsebseb> !nfs | cmdbbq
[03:17] <guest9214> thanks guys lol i'm such a noob
[03:17] <jamon> ideas on how to switch default gui file manager from nautilus to dolphin in gnome?
[03:17] <DasEi> !nfs | cmdbbq
[03:17] <sebsebseb> guest9214: it's ok
[03:17] <Guest810> brazil?
[03:17] <cmdbbq> thank you both
[03:18] <sebsebseb> guest9214: that your new, in fact that's a good thing, the more new users the better
[03:18] <DasEi> cmdbbq: do you want to share them or just access( copy) ?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !br |  Guest810
[03:18] <guest9214> Cool. I love irc!
[03:18] <sebsebseb> !love > guest9214
[03:18] <eboyjr> Hi. Can I have /dev/tty6 be an automatic remote login to my server?
[03:18] <eboyjr> Like when I start my computer
[03:18] <usser_> IdleOne, so what happened?
[03:19] <eliotn> woah
[03:19] <eliotn> there are so many on the ubuntu channel!
[03:19] <sebsebseb> eliotn: yep
[03:19] <eliotn> is there a bot here?
[03:19] <raeldenk_> hi everybody
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !bot | eliotn
[03:19] <teh_bee> Im a bot
[03:19] <zebastian0> shane2peru, ok i am ready now, tell me what i need to do
[03:19] <sebsebseb> teh_bee: no your not
[03:19] <Kburts> how do i get a chanserv into a irc channel?
[03:19] <zebastian0> i just did a clean install on jaunty shane2peru
[03:19] <IdleOne> usser: that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:19] <sebsebseb> teh_bee: or are you?
[03:19] <teh_bee> shuttup i am
[03:19] <teh_bee> haha
[03:19] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you need to download the drivers from the ati web page
[03:20] <coz_> Kburts,   /chanserv  help  ?
[03:20] <Kburts> thanks
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !ati  | shane2peru  zebastian0
[03:20] <IdleOne> eliotn: it is slow tonight :)
[03:20] <raeldenk_> I've lost my dsl-provider file (rm error !) is there a mean to recover it ? please help me
[03:20] <zebastian0> shane2peru i can't find the one for mine
[03:20] <Samus> can someone tell me how my log files are being rotated, when $(which logrotate) is a symlink to /bin/true ?
[03:20] <zebastian0> shane2peru those are for 64 bit and mine is 32 shane2peru
[03:21] <Samus> raeldenk_: which filesystem ?  and probably not
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, you installed jaunty 32 bit correct?
[03:21] <zebastian0> shane2peru that's correct
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: you have the Radeon hd 3200 card correct?
[03:21] <MagnoFlux> my ubuntus graphics messed up - how can i fix it
[03:21] <n8tuser> Samus-> look in /etc/logrotate.conf
[03:21] <zebastian0> shane2peru that's correct
[03:21] <raeldenk_> Samus, /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[03:21] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I will have a link for you in a second
[03:22] <jamon> how to switch default gui file manager from nautilus to dolphin in gnome?
[03:22] <bucky> Samus, man logrotate
[03:22] <bobertdos> MagnoFlux: More specifics would be a good place to start,
[03:22] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:22] <shane2peru> zebastian0: go to this page:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[03:22] <usser_> IdleOne, did it work?
[03:22] <shane2peru> zebastian0: I'm going to walk you through it
[03:23] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:23] <IdleOne> usser: that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:23] <IdleOne> usser_: : that didn't work. after restarting X it got to login manager but was just a little white box and could not type. booted to recovery and ran xfix which set it back to Identifier	"Configured Video Device" in xorg.conf
[03:23] <guest9214> I think my bootloader thing is because of vista, i tried to fix it myself using command prompt
[03:23] <IdleOne> sorry tab complete fail
[03:23] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok hold on
[03:23] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• i have an ati 1900 gt - i have ubuntu installed on my second hard drive - after an update yesterday - whenever i start up ubuntu the screen is completely black with random lines on the top - i tried to fix it with the recovery option - no luck
[03:23] <eliotn> !xchat
[03:23] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown'
[03:23] <eliotn> !ubuntu
[03:24] <shane2peru> zebastian0: there should be three columns in the first column scroll to Linux, and you want to click on Linux x86
[03:24] <IdleOne> !msg > eliotn
[03:24] <tehbaut_> any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:24] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:24] <usser_> IdleOne, hm. i couldnt find anything on that LP presumably bug report
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: It worked! I used a recovery shell typed the command, and then reconfigured Xorg. Now it's back to normal. Thank You!!! :D
[03:24] <eliotn> this is pretty interesting
[03:24] <Samus> n8tuser: but how is it rotating things when "logrotate" doesn't exist on the server ?
[03:24] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: do you know where the official ATI radeon drivers for 64bit Jaunty are? :)
[03:24] <IdleOne> usser_: launchpad.net search for the number
[03:24] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: glad it workd for you
[03:25] <MeGa> hey guys sup
[03:25] <n8tuser> Samus-> did you looked in that file?
[03:25] <Samus> bucky: again, there is no "logrotate" binary on the system, as far as I can tell.  I replaced /usr/sbin/logrotate with a symlink to /bin/true
[03:25] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok i'm there, linux x86
[03:25] <dm-madman> Wondering if anyone here knows what kind of images IE6 properly displays transpaaarent backgrounds with
[03:25] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: are you having problems with the drivers that are being used at the moment?
[03:25] <Samus> n8tuser: yes
[03:25] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, select Radeon
[03:25] <IdleOne> usser_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/304871
[03:25] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Not anything noticable, but there's no graphic acceleration for 3d apps.
[03:25] <bobertdos> MagnoFlux: So, do you actually get as far as logging in?
[03:25] <unop> dm-madman, png definitely
[03:26] <n8tuser> Samus-> also look in /etc/logrotate.d
[03:26] <Samus> dm-madman: 8bit or less PNG images are fine, alpha-blended are not
[03:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: then select ATI Radeon hd 3xxx series and download that
[03:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru ok selected radeon and now which do i select
[03:26] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ^^^^  see above
[03:26] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• no - i dont even get as far as than - on grub it auto starts ubuntu - and black screen arrives
[03:26] <Samus> n8tuser: I don't want to use logrotate, I want to find out how it is running when it doesn't exist ...
[03:26] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown' ... any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:26] <zebastian0> shane2peru next page i download right?
[03:26] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:26] <kimi> u have php mailer
[03:27] <tehbaut_> mounting /dev/sda2 is rerturning 'type unknown' ... any ideas why and what to do about it?
[03:27] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: if you really want to try and get the 3d stuff then you can install the proprietary drivers from the web site, but somehow that leaves you out in the cold when it comes to ubuntu support
[03:27] <shane2peru> zebastian0: correct
[03:27] <ramiro> how do I upgrade firefox to 3.5 without having to update all my packages or download the binary from firefox's website?
[03:27] <coz_> tehbaut,   if no one can answer that here right now you can also try the #linux channel
[03:27] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  ramiro
[03:28] <bucky> Samus, dpkg -L logrotate  if you have linux then you have logrotate
[03:28] <tehbaut_> coz_ thanks for the tip :)
[03:28] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: so how important is 3d to ya?
[03:28] <ramiro> sebsebseb: thanks
[03:28] <sebsebseb> ramiro: np
[03:28] <coz_> tehbaut,  no problem    they have an overal linux approach so I often suggest that channel as an alternative
[03:28] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: fairly important, I use Blender tons and play some 3d games often -- it helps with Wine as well.
[03:28] <n8tuser> Samus-> did you also look at what syslogd is doing?
[03:28] <heogen> ikonia, are you there?
[03:28] <Samus> bucky: are you really new to GNU+Linux operating systems ?  I have said four or five times already that I removed the "logrotate" executable from the system and replaced it with a symlink to /bin/true.
[03:29] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: back up first. :)  I have them installed and works fine
[03:29] <heogen> ikonia, how have you been?
[03:29] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: are you running 64bit or 32?
[03:29] <IdleOne> usser_: anymore thoughts?
[03:29] <bucky> Samus, why did you do that?
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: 64bit Jaunty
[03:29] <br34l> \o/
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: Core i7 920 if the cpu matters :)
[03:30] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how new are you to linux?
[03:30] <zebastian0> shane2peru downloading
[03:30] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• seems i gotta roll for today - thx for lookin at my prob tho - ill bbl
[03:30] <Samus> bucky: because I don't want log files to ever rotate
[03:30] <bucky> Samus, if you just go about rm'ing files you're going to screw up your package manager
[03:30] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, when it is done, installation should be simple
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: I've used Ubuntu since Hardy Heron -- tested Live CDs out since Hoary HedgeHog
[03:30] <Samus> bucky: and Ubuntu doesn't give you the option to remove the package without removing most of the system
[03:31] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: So I know my way around terminals and have a novice/intermediate feel for them
[03:31] <bucky> Samus, actually it does.. it's called equivs
[03:31] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: ok, here is the link:  http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML
[03:31] <Samus> bucky: you can't screw up apt by removing files, unless those files are part of apt's configuration.  and as I said, I didn't remove any files, I replaced the system default
[03:31] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: look at the instructions too, and you should be able to install it
[03:32] <rashed2020> Guys, I have a bash script that runs fine when I run it manually. But doesn't when in a cronjob. Any clues?
[03:32] <Samus> bucky: you're still missing the point: how is Ubuntu rotating my log files when my system doesn't have a logrotate binary on it ?
[03:32] <usser_> IdleOne, seems fishy, some people claim the issue is the kernel others blame the driver
[03:32] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: you should be able to install that yourself, fairly easily, just make sure you look at the instructions
[03:33] <IdleOne> usser_: so for now I am stuck in limbo
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Thanks for the info! :D looking into it now...
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, i dunno, if you have enough expertise you can try building your own kernel or just wait for karmic koala
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, yea pretty much
[03:33] <ramiro> rashed2020: .bashrc isn't sourced?
[03:33] <IdleOne> usser_: I will wait but thanks for your help :)
[03:33] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: no prob, if you run into a snag I will probably be here
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, no problem
[03:34] <MrSchmo> is firefox 3.5 pre-release the latest version for linux?
[03:34] <usser_> MrSchmo, the latest version for linux is whatever is on mozilla.com
[03:35] <bucky> Samus, you're the one who knows everything.. you tell me
[03:36]  * eliotn wants his ubuntu computer to compete with that new mac
[03:36] <kudi1> is it me or is firefox 3.5 not as stable
[03:36] <DasEi> MrSchmo: in usual ways yes, but you could (own risk) also add the repo and have the latest nightly build
[03:36] <usser_> kudi1, firefox is stable is an oxymoron :)
[03:37] <robb> 9.04 having issues with sound?
[03:38] <robb> see some comments re: thinkpad's
[03:38] <Samus> bucky: I came here with that simple question.  nobody has tried to answer it yet.
[03:38] <robb> mute button self-activating or something
[03:38] <blubbb> !ppp
[03:38] <kudi1> usser_: lulz
[03:39] <Samus> bucky: I do know that you can't harm apt by deleting a file in /usr/sbin as you suggested (which I didn't do, I replaced it).  no need to get snarky at me just because you couldn't answer my question and gave out misinformation
[03:40] <jmarsden> !attitude | Samus
[03:40] <n8tuser> Samus-> you kept telling you replaced your logrotate, where? which script?
[03:41] <wartalker> how to set ghe UI font in openoffice ?
[03:41] <zebastian0> BRB
[03:41] <zebastian0> quit
[03:42] <wartalker> how to set the UI font for openoffice ?
[03:42] <jmarsden> !patience | wartalker
[03:42] <tyler_d> I am able to connect to my cisco vpn host, but when I attempt to access any remote resources it simply times out?
[03:43] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you get it downloaded?
[03:43] <zebastian> shane2peru,  yes
[03:43] <zebastian> now what do i do
[03:43] <Samus> n8tuser: I said several times that I replaced the /usr/sbin/logrotate binary with a symlink to /bin/true.  I also replaced the contents of /etc/cron.daily/logrotate with only "/bin/true" in it
[03:44] <shane2peru> ok, to install this it is best to go to a tty terminal and we are going to kill x, so you are going to need to write these instructions down
[03:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ^^^^^
[03:44] <zebastian> shane2peru,  hold on a moment
[03:44] <zebastian> i'll be right back ok
[03:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, no prob
[03:44] <joeb3_> tyler_d, you running any firewalls?
[03:45] <Samus> jmarsden: I've spent literally thousands of hours on IRC helping people with GNU+Linux and related apps.  I am well aware people here are volunteers.
[03:45] <tyler_d> joeb3_: no
[03:45] <n8tuser> Samus-> and you restarted syslogd afterwards?
[03:45] <kudi1> mplayer was working fine b4 this is the error i get when trying to play a song from my library in sonata:
[03:46] <Samus> n8tuser: the system has been rebooted several times since then
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> how you open virtualbox 3.0 when you install it in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Samus> well, at least twice.
[03:46] <gwildor> SuperMiguel, accessories.... form the menu
[03:46] <n8tuser> yeah that would be an effective syslogd restart...
[03:46] <joeb3_> SuperMiguel, apps, system tools, virtualbox
[03:47] <kudi1> how do you copy in xterm?
[03:47] <Samus> I see rotated log files from yesterday, the day before, etc.  yet I did the symlink thing weeks or months back
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> Thanks for the help :)
[03:47] <mow> SuperMiguel > try VirtualBox in term
[03:47] <Samus> not to mention the cron.daily file for it doesn't have anything in it other than /bin/true
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> bye for now
[03:47] <kudi1> what is this:  DeprecationWarning: the multifile module has been deprecated since Python 2.4
[03:47] <SuperMiguel> gwildor, Joe_ i installed 3.0 is not there... whats the actuall patch? the folder where it gets installed?
[03:47] <Samus> logrotate is like The Terminator, unstoppable ...
[03:49] <Samus> SuperMiguel: the default X11 client can be loaded from the menus.  there are also three other clients which can be started from the command line: RDP, headless, SDL
[03:49] <joeb3_> SuperMiguel, /usr/bin/VirtualBox
[03:50] <SuperMiguel> joeb3_, thanks
[03:52] <Schmitty> does anyone know of a windows antivirus scanner that actually runs on linux, I E ubuntu software that scans a windows partition?
[03:52] <Korlis> yo all
[03:52] <zebaztian> shane2peru, ok now tell me what i have to do again
[03:52] <mow> Schmitty > fprot
[03:53] <shane2peru> zebaztian: ok, let me look over the instructions, you should click the link too:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[03:53] <Schmitty> let me check this out mow
[03:53] <zebaztian> shane2peru,  you know what let me get on the windows laptop
[03:53] <Oneshade> can anyone help me out real quick? Im new to linux and Im trying to get it to connect to the internet (Im using the ubunutu server edition, latest version) and It keeps getting destination host unreachable when I try to ping any ip adress. I had followed a guide to get it set up, so it has a static IP adress, but I dont think I changed much else. or if anyone can point me in the direction of a guide for this kind of problem
[03:53] <zebaztian> while i fiddle on here
[03:54] <shane2peru> zebaztian: oh, wait, we don't have to kill x in Ubuntu, we are fine
[03:54] <Korlis> Oneshade: are you on that machine right now?
[03:54] <pitput> I have ubuntu installed on a partition. Can I somehow "expand" to use the free space I have on my harddrive now since I deleted the windows partition?
[03:54] <Oneshade> its sitting next to me
[03:55] <Oneshade> its not this computer that im on irc with, no
[03:55] <Korlis> Oneshade: ok, cuz it sounds like it's not connecting to the internet
[03:55] <Schmitty> mow, this isn't what I was looking for. This is antivirus for windows running on linux
[03:55] <IdleOne> !gparted > pitput
[03:55] <Schmitty> I need antivirus running on linux for windows
[03:55] <Korlis> Oneshade:  are you using wireless or wired
[03:55] <zebastian> ok shane2peru tell me exactly what i have to do nwo
[03:56] <Korlis> Schmitty: look up avast
[03:56] <jmarsden> Schmitty: clamav ?
[03:56] <bastid_raZor> pitput: follow the liveCD option of what ubottu said.
[03:56] <MrSchmo> hey guys im trying to install firefox and i get "bash" /usr/bin/firefox" error. i tried uninstalling and install but i get the same thing
[03:56] <Schmitty> you guysare sure you understand me
[03:56] <zebastian> shane2peru i downloaded the driver to desktop sand have the terminal open
[03:56] <Oneshade> Korlis: wired. I just set this machine up with a fresh install yesterday, so nothing is really configured except the couple programs i installed and the static ip
[03:56] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, we are going to open up a terminal
[03:56] <zebastian> done
[03:56] <MrSchmo> hey guys im trying to install firefox and i get "bash" /usr/bin/firefox: No such file directory" error. i tried uninstalling and install but i get the same thing
[03:56] <Korlis> Oneshade: are you planning on using it as a server?
[03:56] <pitput> bastid_raZor, that seems very dangerous to do
[03:56] <juanpablo> hola
[03:56] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, we need to type this:  sudo chmod +x ati(tab)
[03:56] <mow> Schmitty > if it's windows, can't you just use a windows antivirus?
[03:57] <juanpablo> alguien me puede ayudar ?
[03:57] <Oneshade> Korlis: yeah I was hoping to.
[03:57] <pitput> bastid_raZor, I just somehow want to "expand" the free space for my ubuntu
[03:57] <shane2peru> zebastian: tab will complete the name of the file
[03:57] <jamiejackson> hi, i just ran "sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2" accidentally, instead of specifying /dev/md0 first. how do i recover from this?
[03:57] <Schmitty> mow: no. To be truley productive I need to be able to remove a windows drive, throw it on a linux box and scan for virii
[03:57] <bastid_raZor> pitput: you will have to have the current partition unmounted in order to resize it. the gparted LiveCD is the best way to accomplish this
[03:57] <zebastian> shane2peru do i type "(tab)" or you mean press the tab key as the last part of the staetement?
[03:58] <pitput> bastid_raZor, are there any risks of losing my current data?
[04:03] <zebastian> shane2peru installation mode: custom or automatic?
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hih
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <Prodego> !ops
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: use automatic
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <IdleOne> otg: stop
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <otg> hh
[04:03] <otg> ih
[04:03] <coz_> otg,   we see that and hello
[04:03] <otg> ihi
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <Korlis> jmarsden, that wasnt my point, its not there by default, plus command.com isnt as powerful
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <IdleOne> otg: stop please
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: automatic mode is better
[04:03] <otg> 幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹案幹幹幹幹幹幹幹案
[04:03] <GlaxoSmithStart> hello people
[04:03] <zebastian> shane2peru installation completed
[04:03] <zebastian> back to prompt
[04:03] <zebastian> now what
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: you should be able to reboot and you are good to go
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: is that how you did it last time?
[04:04] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on, let me check that it worked
[04:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: it won't show till it is rebooted and xorg is reloaded
[04:04] <zebastian> i know
[04:04] <zebastian> i am rebooting now
[04:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: is that how you installed it before?
[04:04] <Samus> SuperMiguel: the default X11 client can be loaded from the menus.  there are also three other clients which can be started from the command line: RDP, headless, SDL
[04:04] <Samus> SuperMiguel: not sure if that got through before I disconnected
[04:05] <zebastian> shane2peru !!!!!!!!!!!!:( i got the same thign that i got the first time when everything went downhill, ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself
[04:06]  * zebastian clicks on ok
[04:06] <GlaxoSmithStart> hey guys, I have VMWare on Windows and my guest is Ubuntu.  When I disconnect my DNS messes up , anyone know why this might be happening or what I could do to fix it?
[04:06] <shane2peru> zebastian: really!  ahh, that isn't good indeed
[04:06] <zebastian> shane2peru now i am asked what i would like to do, run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session, reconfigure graphics, troubleshoot error, exit to console login
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> GlaxoSmithStart: possibly ask in #vmware
[04:06] <GlaxoSmithStart> thx
[04:07] <jak> ti59jui85rjgtioujgi
[04:07] <jev> 你認識我嗎
[04:07] <Schmitty> ['}}
[04:07] <jev> 甚麼
[04:07] <shane2peru> zebastian: wow, that is really not good, try reconfigure graphics and see if that fixes it, what did you chose last time?
[04:07] <IdleOne> !cn | jev
[04:07] <jev> 你會打國字嗎
[04:07] <zebastian> shane2peru i can't recall
[04:08] <sebsebseb> strange  I coudn't see who did !  o p s
[04:08] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long have you used linux?
[04:08] <juxta_> if I've made some changes to partition sizes and the like, which haven't been detected, how can I re-enumerate/rescan the disks/partitions without rebooting? I know there's a command for it, I've used it in the past, I just forget what it is
[04:08] <jev> 唉
[04:08] <jak> 委
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> !cn | jev
[04:08] <Amanj> hi..probelm Not Found
[04:08] <Amanj>  phpMyAdmin error
[04:08] <jev> 愛你
[04:08] <zebastian> shane2peru how would you like to reconfigure your display use default generic configuration, create new configuration for this hardware, user your backed up configuration
[04:08] <jak> 大便
[04:08] <kudi1> how do i add google to the search box on the left in firefox, i jus updated to 3.5 so i have to do a couple things manually
[04:08] <Schmitty> ??
[04:08] <IdleOne> !english > jev jak
[04:09] <GlaxoSmithStart> hey guys, I have VMWare on Windows and my guest is Ubuntu.  When I disconnect my internet my DNS messes up , anyone know why this might be happening or what I could do to fix it?
[04:09] <Schmitty> yes english is best
[04:09] <crankharder> hey, what's the goto solution for my idiot friends that I'm trying to convert to ubuntu when they tell me........ "i dont have a blank CD" ?
[04:09] <shane2peru> zebastian: try defualt generic configuration
[04:09] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long have you used Linux?
[04:09]  * crankharder bangs head on wall
[04:09] <sebsebseb> GlaxoSmithStart: I hope that's only to try Ubuntu, and later on you will do a proper install  say when 9.10 comes out,   you can ask for help in #vmware   people in here useually recommend Virtualbox :)
[04:10] <jmarsden> crankharder: Stick it on a USB flash drive instead
[04:10] <zebastian> shane2peru your configuration has been restored to default and your old configuration backed up, please restart
[04:10] <quartknee> Hey, can you name a few extra repositories that might help me find some key social-networking desktop tools?
[04:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: man, that is disappointing
[04:11] <shane2peru> zebastian: are you new to Linux?  ATI isn't known to be well supported in Linux, and I feel bad for you having this much hassle
[04:11] <Amanj> help
[04:11] <jmarsden> quartknee: Which "key social-networking desktop tools" do you have in mind?  Name them :)
[04:11] <jmarsden> !help Amanj
[04:11] <jmarsden> !help | Amanj
[04:11] <shane2peru> !ask | Amanj
[04:11] <zebastian> shane2peru, what do i do now? i mean, it looks like it did originally
[04:11] <kd8JHC> !ask | Amanj
[04:11] <shane2peru> zebastian: you mean after the fresh install?
[04:11] <zebastian> shane2peru i am not really new to linux but i didn't start putting my head into it till this year
[04:12] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, it looks like regular clean install confic
[04:12] <Amanj> me probelm Not Found
[04:12] <Amanj> http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10449
[04:12] <zebastian> shane2peru you think we got the right driver file=
[04:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: don't install the proprietary drivers again. :)
[04:12] <zebastian> how do you mean?
[04:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: yep, I'm sure of that, if you gave me the right graphics card info
[04:12] <zebastian> like dont do again
[04:13] <zebastian> what we justt did
[04:13] <Oneshade> can anyone help me on a ubuntu server edition (already installed, and with a LAMP already on it) get it to connect to the internet? whenever I try to use the ping command on any outside adress it wont work. Im new to linux, and this is a fresh install so barely anything has been changed (except it has a static ip set up)
[04:13] <shane2peru> zebastian: right, it didn't work, perhaps hold out till a new version is released?
[04:13] <shane2peru> zebastian: how new is the laptop?
[04:13] <dead1ock> why will gedit make a <filename>~ file after I edit files?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: new to Linux and already using the server edition hmm
[04:13] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Ask in #ubuntu-server , it is quieter in there :)
[04:13] <zebastian> shane2peru i bought about a month ago now
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: What kind of server are you doing?
[04:13] <kd8JHC> Oneshade: why are you running a server
[04:14] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: you can run  server stuff in the desktop install which may be easier for you, but if your doing a proper commercial server, sure the  server edition
[04:14] <veasmkii> deadlock, that should just be the temp file it creates
[04:14] <Pici> dead1ock: Because the default behavior is to save backup copies, check Edit>Preferences, Editor Tab, Filesaving to change that
[04:14] <shane2peru> zebastian: when I first bought my laptop, networking didn't work, sound didn't work, and ati graphics were a mess, intrepid was out, jaunty soon came out and things got better
[04:14] <quartknee> jmarsden well, these aren't social networking per se, but ComicStrip rss reader, rssowl, python-twitter are all things I've been looking at.
[04:15] <zebastian> shane2peru wait a sec
[04:15] <shane2peru> zebastian: I would have to say, you are going to have to either A.  try a different distro, or B.  Live with it the way it is and wait for Koala to be released
[04:15] <dead1ock> Pici: Thanks, it was being a hassle with git
[04:15] <zebastian> shane2peru what about hardy?
[04:15] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can continue searching for answers, but it is going to be tough
[04:15] <Pici> dead1ock: In bzr, you can have .bzrignore file, which will ignore certain filename patterns from being versioned, git might have something similar.
[04:15] <jmarsden> quartknee: python-twitter seems to be in the Jaunty repositories... sudo apt-get install pythin-twitter
[04:16] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on a moment ok
[04:16] <shane2peru> zebastian: I think it would be a waste of your time to try Hardy honestly, but if you have no other options and have the time, give it a try
[04:16] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok
[04:16] <DigitalKiwi> what is zebastians problem?
[04:16] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces (which you edited to set the static IP) please?
[04:17] <Amanj> shane2peru, probelm the phpmyadmin no found why? http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10449
[04:17] <Pici> jmarsden: It sounds like his default route is misconfigured to me.
[04:17] <harisund> The Firefox I am running on my Windows box is 3.5.<something> but the Firefox on my Ubuntu box is 3.0.<something>. Is this deliberate?
[04:17] <jmarsden> Pici: Quite possibly, yes.
[04:17] <zebastian> shane2peru what is the command to check which card i have
[04:17] <zebastian> lspci something?
[04:17] <RedSocrates> harisund, yes.  Firefox 3.5 doesn't ship with Jaunty; you'll have to install it yourself.
[04:17] <jmarsden> zebastian: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> harisund: firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5 are a separate packages.
[04:17] <shane2peru> zebastian: right lspci | grep ati
[04:17] <Pici> harisund: FF3.5 wasn't out when Jaunty was released.
[04:18] <shane2peru> zebastian: oh, use jmarsden it will probably work better
[04:18] <DigitalKiwi> lspci | grep VGA is more generic
[04:18] <quartknee> jmarsden: Thank you! Do you suggest any other repositories worth picking up? I'd like to explore a little beyond the default ubuntu stuff.
[04:18] <harisund> RedSocrates, leaf-sheep, Pici ah ok .. is there any "official Ubuntu" way of install this Firefox that wouldn't void my warranty? ;-)
[04:18] <Pici> !ff35 | harisund
[04:19] <zebastian> shane2peru i got 01:05.9 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[04:19] <harisund> Pici, sweet man thanks. I am afraid to do anything with my Ubuntu box, else I go make a post in the forums and everyone yells at me "why do you do it like that, that is not the way things are done with Ubuntu" :) This is better
[04:19] <quartknee> Hey all! Do you suggest any other repositories worth picking up? I'd like to explore a little beyond the default ubuntu stuff.
[04:19] <shane2peru> zebastian: yep that is what we installed the 3xxx series
[04:19] <jmarsden> quartknee: Generally you can look in PPAs for interesting new stuff once you know what you are looking for. Not sure there are any "big" unofficial Ubuntu repos -- just a lot of people doing interesting things in tehir own PPAs on Launchpad.
[04:19] <zebastian> shane2peru why not the 3200 hd series?
[04:20] <RedSocrates> quartknee, how about medibuntu?  Or do you already have that?
[04:20] <shane2peru> zebastian: did I overlook it???
[04:20] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Seriously, can you /join #ubuntu-server and I will try to work with you on the server networking issue you are having in that channel ?
[04:21] <zebastian> shane2peru give me the link again
[04:21] <shane2peru> zebastian: because there is no 3200 series
[04:21] <shane2peru> zebastian: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[04:22] <n8tuser> Oneshade-> you can stay here too, nothing unique to make it a server only type of networking issue
[04:22] <pedro> hello
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> zebastian: have you tried the radeon driver?
[04:22] <jmarsden> n8tuser: Right, it is just a lot noisier in here :)
[04:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: I found it!
[04:22] <zebastian> shane2peru which is it?
[04:22] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: it's under integrated
[04:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: you have to click on integrated
[04:22] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: why didn't you point that out before? :)
[04:23] <n8tuser> jmarsden-> its okay, people have to share the learnings
[04:23] <pedro> necesito que me hayuden  a configurar mi servidor ubuntu 9.04
[04:23] <DigitalKiwi> well i didn't click the link until a minute ago
[04:23] <shane2peru> zebastian: I should probably install that on mine too!  lol
[04:23] <jmarsden> !es | pedro
[04:23] <n8tuser> jmarsden-> we can all benefit from sharing of such info
[04:23]  * zebastian is downloading
[04:24] <jmarsden> n8tuser: Sure.  But newcomers may find it easier to work in a quieter channel, that channel is open to all, including you, and is logged, just as this one is... I did not suggest going to private messages :)
[04:24] <shane2peru> zebastian: I'm about to check out for the night, do you think you can run through it again?
[04:24] <RabidWeezle> anyone gotten a virgin mobile broadband2go to work in ubuntu yet?
[04:24] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long for download?
[04:25] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on
[04:25] <zebastian> it's only
[04:25] <zebastian> it's about 8 minutes
[04:26] <zebastian> wait
[04:26] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, i got an EVDO card to work...
[04:26] <Out_Cold> if it's the same type of deal there are plenty tutorials
[04:26] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, did you have to do the "usb_modeswitch" thing?
[04:26] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can delete that other one
[04:26] <zebastian> shane2peru please help me try this out
[04:26] <zebastian> i did
[04:27] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, will do
[04:27] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, no i don't think so.
[04:27] <Out_Cold> which version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:27] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, kubuntu jaunty latest kernel
[04:27] <zebastian> i think KDE's female and GNOME is male
[04:28] <Out_Cold> i had to use netowrk manager to get it going i think.
[04:28] <Out_Cold> i haven't tried with wicd
[04:28] <DigitalKiwi> because KDE is subject to being bloated and GNOME only works when it wants to?
[04:28] <shane2peru> shane2peru: thinks wicd rules
[04:28]  * shane2peru thinks wicd rules
[04:28] <Out_Cold> haha kiwi
[04:28] <DigitalKiwi> <3 wicd
[04:28]  * zebastian concurs
[04:29] <Out_Cold> i use wicd too..
[04:29] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, big problem with this card is it's got a switchable usb storage on to hold the windows drivers XD
[04:29] <cjae> Does updatedb work for say a usb hdd? I need to  find a specific .pdf
[04:29] <Out_Cold> but haven't used it with EVDO
[04:29] <kd8JHC> my Verizon evdo card works perfectly in jaunty.. no extra stuff required
[04:29] <webbb82> i need some advise i have karmic installed at the moment but im thinkin about installing jaunty again so i can add kde can i install kde in karmic like in jaunty
[04:29] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, that doesn't sound like the same as i had.
[04:29] <bfox> zebastian:  let's hope they don't breed
[04:30] <jmarsden> cjae: You can ask updatedb to scan any mounted filesystem.  But for a eon time thing, find /media/whatever -name "name-of-file.pdf"  may be easier :)
[04:30] <Out_Cold> webbb82, it's the same process
[04:30] <sebsebseb> webbb82: yes and Karmic talk is here #ubuntu+1
[04:30] <seidos> !es | pedro
[04:30] <seidos> crap
[04:30] <seidos> I was scrolled up and didn't realize it
[04:30]  * seidos smacks himself
[04:31] <sebsebseb> !language |  seidos
[04:31] <sebsebseb> seidos: :) at the bot, and heh at you :D
[04:31] <zebastian> shane2peru since you installed yours are you able to run compiz and watch movies without them getting stuck?
[04:31] <seidos> !lamp | sebsebseb
[04:31] <cjae> jmarsden, so find /media/whatever -name *.pdf will work with a  mounted ntfs fs?
[04:32]  * seidos will stop abusing ubottu now
[04:32] <jmarsden> cjae: Yes, it doesn't care what type of fs it is searching, basically
[04:32] <cjae> jmarsden, ok  thanks
[04:32] <shane2peru> zebastian: I was processing videos, making videos, and no never did get it right
[04:32] <jmarsden> cjae: No problem.  Oh, should do -name "*.pdf"  -- quote the name if it has any wildcards in it.
[04:33] <shane2peru> zebastian: however everything boots up, and I monitored temps, and it ran a looooot cooler with those drivers installed
[04:33] <sebsebseb> seidos: heh
[04:33] <_MrsApple_> hi, is there a flashplayer that works with ubuntu? im not sure how to update mine or even how to find out where i need to update it.
[04:33] <sanchiro> I need help with email.. have a pesky 'relay not permitted' problem.. my exim4 server permits neither the spam to relay through, which is good, nor the email I want to receive, which is BAD.. ideas how to resolve this?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: sudo apt-get intstall flashplugin-installer
[04:33] <zebastian> shane2peru did the getting stuck mid movie cease?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: Flash can be a bit bad in  Ubuntu, because it's closed source
[04:33] <shane2peru> zebastian: you may have helped me with mine too, tomorrow I will install on mine
[04:33] <Out_Cold> !flash | _MrsApple_
[04:34] <webbb82> woulod the jaunty repos work for karmic koala
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: I don't watch movies on mine, but I'm sure that would be fixed, it is less processor intensive than processing videos
[04:34] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: what is the excuse of gnash and the open ati drivers?
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: I watched the temps on mine, and they would start to climb with anything I did
[04:34] <DigitalKiwi> they are open but still suck ;P
[04:34] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: Gnash and  ATI  drivers aren't related I think
[04:34] <jmarsden> sanchiro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config    and reconfigure it the way you want
[04:34] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: hmm
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: installing the drivers made it run cooler, I have read reports of movies doing the same thing
[04:35] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: not all opensource/freesoftware is amazing, because of lack of developers
[04:35] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: also when it comes to drivers,  it's  more  about lack of manufacture support, when they aren't that good
[04:35] <Out_Cold> like with the ATI driver lol
[04:35] <Ieatbears> How do I detect drivers with Ubuntu?
[04:35] <DigitalKiwi> the 64 bit alpha/flash whatever flash driver has been really good to me, as has been nvidia
[04:35]  * Out_Cold uses nvidia and still has issues
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: Nivida's fault,  those drivers are closed source
[04:36] <Out_Cold> yea
[04:36] <zebastian> shane2peru what about changing my graphics card? is that possible? what is a better brand and what are usual prices? also how can i check if that's doable on my laptop?
[04:36] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: yes, but Firefox isn't even 64bit, so there is a breakdown there.
[04:36] <_MrsApple_> sebsebseb, im pretty sure we had it on our comp already.... how do i check the updates on here???
[04:36] <shane2peru> zebastian: I know nothing about that, I assume it is probably integrated, and therefore cannot be changed
[04:37] <meua> Hi! my external is correctly labeled "ehd-data" but display in gnome as "150 GB Media" and is mounted on /media/disk (this happened after a resize with gparted). How do i get the system respect label name for mount point and display name ? thx.
[04:37] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: there won't be any updates for Flash,  accept maybe a security update, but probably not
[04:37] <Out_Cold> _MrsApple_, just reinstall it and it will let you know if it's already installed or in need of updating
[04:37] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: how do i have firefox without 32 bit lib depends if it's not 64 bit? how come I can compile it? the answer is it is 64 bit ;p
[04:38] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: and then when  a proper later Flash version comes out, well  that will be in a later Ubuntu
[04:38] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: well, I could be wrong, but I don't think mozilla has released 64bit version
[04:38] <joako> When I turn on the computer it logs in automatically but then it asks me for a password to connect to the wifi. How do I connect to wifi w/o password?
[04:38] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: if you have the link to their 64bit firefox, I would love to see it.
[04:39] <_MrsApple_> sebsebseb, and what if my bf (its mainly his comp) decides not to switch to different version of ubuntu? can i delete an existing flash or whatev and just reinstall?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: you can get it from Adobe yeah
[04:40] <DigitalKiwi> http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Firefox:Download here it is for windows anyway
[04:40] <amites> any ideas why I would be denied permission to cd to a directory owned by a group my account is a member of?
[04:40] <_MrsApple_> thx sebsebseb !!!
[04:40] <MrPockets> Anyone use Synergy cross-platform with windows?
[04:40] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, my time is running out, you are going to have to open the terminal, type: cd Desktop
[04:40] <shane2peru> zebastian: then, type: chmod +x ati(tab)
[04:40] <zebastian> shane2peru, yes it's only a few secs remaining
[04:40] <zebastian> ok
[04:41] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: and  basically any OS should eventuaully be updated, or changed to some other OS that is supported by security updates, because they stop being supported
[04:41] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: no problem
[04:41] <shane2peru> zebastian: then type: sudo ./ati(tab)
[04:41] <meua> Hi! my external is correctly labeled "ehd-data" but display in gnome as "150 GB Media" and is mounted on /media/disk (this happened after a resize with gparted). How do i get the system respect label name for mount point and display name ? thx.
[04:42] <zebastian> shane2peru i got the following output
[04:42] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: right, but I don't think it exists for Linux, you can compile 32bit software on 64bit box without a problem
[04:42] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: wine is the same way, it maybe compiled for 64bit, but it still only processes 32bits at a time
[04:42] <zebastian> sudo ./ati-driver-installer-9-9.x86,x86_64.run: command not founod
[04:42] <zebastian> shane2peru
[04:42] <jmarsden> shane2peru:  ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com:/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.5/firefox-3.5_3.5.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb  is 64bit firefox ...
[04:43] <amites> These are the steps I'm taking to add user to group and set directory permissions, any ideas why I would be denied access? http://pastebin.com/m2f2b58bf
[04:43] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you run: chmod +x ati(tab)
[04:43] <xeer> I have a Novatech NV-902W (Ralink RT2570 chipset) that worked flawlessly out of the box on 9.04. I reverted to 8.10 for gfx drivers and it's not recognized (Though it displays the name when issuing 'lsusb')
[04:43] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: fedora i know has both 32 bit and 64 bit firefoxes easily available
[04:43] <xeer> My question, what could I do to get the drivers from 9.04 (repositories?) to 8.10?
[04:43] <zebastian> shane2peru ok doing so now
[04:44] <zebastian> shane2peru uncompressing
[04:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, you want to select install, and automatic installation
[04:44] <jmarsden> amites: Adding a group does not take effect right away.  Log out and back in and your user will be in that www-data group.
[04:44] <jmarsden> amites: But why are you doing that???
[04:44] <zebastian> shane2peru ok, and after that?
[04:45] <shane2peru> zebastian: it should pop up the gui to run through
[04:45] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, ok, once it's done downloading, i reboot adn check it out and if it doesnt work, reconfigure to default right?
[04:45] <zebastian> otherwise itmeans it worked
[04:45] <Guest49018> Ok, something's wrong with the desktop area. I'm on 8.04; Nautilus seems to be working fine, but I can't select or right-click anything on the desktop. My mouse is otherwise working fine.
[04:46] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: I'm working on 64bit Jaunty and too installed firefox, however it is only 32bit, because 64bit java didn't work with it
[04:46] <xeer> Anyone willing to look at my question?
[04:46] <shane2peru> zebastian: correct
[04:46] <amites> jmarsden: it's a server, thank you
[04:46] <zebastian> shane2peru what's cups?
[04:46] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: after googling, I found out there wasn't a 64bit Linux firefox
[04:46] <shane2peru> zebastian: cups is what communicates with your printer
[04:46] <jmarsden> amites: No problem.
[04:47] <coldboot|home> shane2peru: What version of Firefox? I think there are older ones.
[04:47] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: and after googling i found several instances of 64 bit linux firefox
[04:47] <shane2peru> coldboot|home: I had upgraded to the latest at that time, I since went back to what was in the repos
[04:47] <shane2peru> coldboot|home: I worked through ubuntuzilla, you can look on the forums, it is documented there
[04:47] <coldboot|home> shane2peru: I can't remember, but I do remember having 64-bit versions of Firefox a while ago. It could have been v2
[04:48] <zebastian> shane2peru, have three min?
[04:48] <coldboot|home> ah ok
[04:48] <Out_Cold> xeer you can add the repositories from intrepid to jaunty but it might break your system
[04:49] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: you have to separate the name form the actual product, it may say Firefox-3.5-amd64, because it is built to be installed on 64bit box, but doesn't mean it is truely 64bit
[04:49] <xeer> Out_Cold:  there is no networking; since the wireless is not functional at this point
[04:49] <Out_Cold> xeer another option is to build the driver yourself from the device vendors
[04:49] <zebastian> shane2peru, it seems to have worked...:O...does it mean now i can get compiz and play movies?
[04:49] <DigitalKiwi> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090804 Firefox/3.5.2
[04:50] <DigitalKiwi> from help about
[04:50] <zebastian> shane2peru do i delete the file from the desktop now?
[04:50] <Guest49018> If I were to kill the nautilus process that runs by default, what would happen?
[04:50] <shane2peru> zebastian: you should be good to go!
[04:50] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can keep it or delete it, you may need it in the case of an update
[04:50] <xeer> Out_Cold:  yes that I what I am trying to do now but If I update the linux kernel wont I have to recompile each time?
[04:50] <Out_Cold> xeer, that also happens with wifi cards. i usually plug in with a wire, update, then disconnect and go wireless
[04:50] <shane2peru> bye all
[04:51] <zebastian> shane2peru I would like to thank you and all of the people involved in the channel
[04:51] <zebastian> for your great help, you have been all very kind
[04:51] <xeer> Out_Cold:  not all of us have the luxury of wired + wireless connections.
[04:51] <shane2peru> zebastian: glad to be of help
[04:51] <Out_Cold> not too sure
[04:51] <zebastian> this includes but is not limited to sebsebseb bro seidos
[04:51] <zebastian> ActionParsnip
[04:51] <zebastian> DigitalDarkness
[04:51] <Out_Cold> agreed.. but it's a quick fix
[04:51] <zebastian> thank you so much guys
[04:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian: no problem and good luck with ATI and that :)
[04:52]  * JaGG e
[04:52] <JaGG> -me e
[04:52] <harisund> When I boot my computer, I don't want a login screen. I want a command line login (run level 3 basically), and I want to be able to launch Gnome or whatever with a startx or equivalent instead of using the login manager. Any suggestions?
[04:52] <zebastian> brb
[04:53] <binskipy2u> hey guys, kinda simple question.. I'm using ubuntu 9.04 64bit.. does that mean everything in repos is 64bit?
[04:53] <binskipy2u> specially desktop enviornments.... i was thinking of checking out lxde
[04:53] <quartknee> I added medibuntu as a repository but I can't seem to access it with Synaptic Package manager to browse it. Is it listed under something other than medibuntu?
[04:53] <binskipy2u> as a fast desktop
[04:54] <xeer> Question, If I put 9.04 on a usb stick could I pull the built-in drivers onto my 8.10 system?
[04:56] <jmarsden> quartknee: medibuntu is the repository, the collection of packages.  What package do you want to install from it?
[04:57] <thiebaude> !medibuntu
[04:58] <zebaztian> sebsebseb, how can i look at the log of the conversation I just had with shane2peru
[04:59] <sebsebseb> zebaztian: your IRC client probably has a log, but also
[04:59] <sebsebseb> !log
[05:00] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[05:00] <jmarsden> zebaztian: You can also find the log files under ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ if you enabled logging in xchat
[05:01] <zebaztian> jmarsden, I just enabled it
[05:01] <OzFalcon> anyone know of a flowchart program that can export to-->from data?
[05:01] <jmarsden> zebaztian: OK, well next time you will know where to find the logs, at least :)
[05:02] <zebaztian> :)
[05:02] <mans28far> help : FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[05:03] <harisund> How do I figure out what event is generated when I press a key, so it can be modified using xmodmap or whatever? (I haev a hardware button on my tablet)
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> gah Shane2peru left
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> or is he shane2
[05:04] <mu3en> harisund use xev from a terminal
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> oh that's not actualy a nick just spell checking >.>
[05:04] <harisund> mu3en, xev .. that's what I was looking for. sweet man thanks
[05:04] <jmarsden> OzFalcon: I'm not quite sure what you mean, but try xfig and see if it does what you want
[05:05] <heftig> DigitalKiwi: he left 13 minutes ago
[05:05] <DigitalKiwi> hehe
[05:05] <harisund> ok I just did apt-get install gnome-randr-applet .. how do I make it show up as an applet?
[05:05] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I just want to have the link data from the flow chart in  a text format (ie node 1 ---> node2) etc.
[05:05] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I'll check xifg.
[05:06] <jmarsden> OzFalcon: No, xfig is mroe of a drawing program that can export to a wide variety of formats... probably not what you are looking for.
[05:06] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, no. If I want to build a car port mabie ;-)
[05:07] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I'm not sure what to call that format. So It's making it hard to find a prg
[05:08] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, Hmmm. Looking under "node listing"
[05:08] <DigitalKiwi> maybe dia?
[05:08] <DigitalKiwi> i don't know what you want exactly either :/
[05:08] <harisund> what's the difference between cpufreqd powernowd etc ?
[05:09] <DigitalKiwi> 9 extra/dia 0.97-2  DIAgram editor
[05:09] <garv> Hello there, ubuntu nooob looking for some help
[05:09] <kd8JHC> !ask | garv
[05:10] <OzFalcon> ok. I have a flowchart. But I want to export all the nodes So I can impliment the chart within a program. I just need to be able to export which nodes connect to which.
[05:10] <OzFalcon> looking at DIA
[05:10] <mans28far> ubuntu 8.1 broadcom 4328 wireless. can not modprobe ndiswrapper to get wireless up and running
[05:11] <xeer> How do I get build-essential for 8.10 when it doesn't have networking capabilities?
[05:11] <OzFalcon> manous, Sure there ain't drivers from 4328. Sure you should be using ndiswrapper?
[05:11] <xeer> I dont see any download available...
[05:11] <garv> Just installed ubuntu latest release, cannot connect to the interwebs. OS sees both of my network cards.
[05:11] <OzFalcon> manous, Sure there ain't drivers for 4328. Sure you should be using ndiswrapper?
[05:12] <xeer> Seems ubuntu "assumes" everyone has networking that wants to compile
[05:12] <mans28far> i'm sure. 4328 was not listed
[05:12] <OzFalcon> garv, PC on internal net?
[05:12] <OzFalcon> mans28far, moment
[05:12] <garv> both are onboard cards
[05:12] <harisund> xeer, not really. ubuntu just assumes most users won't need to compile anything to get a functional system, and that if someone wants a compiler, they will be able to figure out how to get it:)
[05:13] <mu3en> xeer, assuming you have some kind of internet somewhere, you can download and install the .debs manually from a usb?
[05:13] <manous> wow,what does it mean?
[05:14] <OzFalcon> mans28far, Have you tried the broadcom sta drivers (Just for a shot in the dark)?
[05:15] <OzFalcon> mans28far, I know it's not listed but.....
[05:15] <garv> its like the router isnt giving either of the cards IP addresses
[05:15] <OzFalcon> garv, Have you tried manualy setting ip?
[05:15] <mans28far> i'll give a try
[05:15] <OzFalcon> garv, what does ifconfig say?
[05:15] <[R]> my cd tray automatically retracts itself and i've read that it should have been fixed in 8.10, but i'm using 9.04... and no matter what i do i can't get it to work... any suggestions?
[05:15] <garv> <--super linux noob please give me a heads up on how to run ifconfig
[05:16] <lstarnes> garv: type it into a terminal
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, open a terminal
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, it should list eth0 and eth1
[05:16] <garv> yes it does
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, and lo
[05:17] <garv> yeah see all of that
[05:17] <OzFalcon> garv, and it says inet addr:????????????
[05:17] <cainram> Hello, all
[05:18] <garv> only relative thing i see to that, is inet6 addr:
[05:18] <jmarsden> !welcome cainram
[05:18] <garv> then it just looks like a registry netry
[05:18] <garv> entry*
[05:18] <lstarnes> garv: linux has no registry
[05:18] <DasEi> !hi | cainram
[05:18] <OzFalcon> garv, hmmmm
[05:18] <garv> well im just trying to tell you what im seeing but thanks
[05:18] <cainram> thanks, j
[05:19] <garv> i tried to manually set it, but it wouldnt let me "apply" the settings and I couldnt figure out what i was doing wrong
[05:19] <OzFalcon> garv, you are seeing the ip6 address
[05:19] <jmarsden> garv: Can you use pastebin to show us all what you are seeing? :)
[05:19] <OzFalcon> garv, moment......
[05:19] <jmarsden> !pastebin | garv
[05:19] <cainram> I'm having a little trouble with my Gnome desktop... any gurus?
[05:19] <kd8JHC> !ask | cainram
[05:19] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, Too advanced and not needed yet
[05:19] <DasEi> cainram: give us more details
[05:20] <OzFalcon> garv, hold tight
[05:20] <garv> sec I'm on my mac let me copy txt to a flash drive
[05:20] <garv> this is a FRESH install
[05:20] <garv> is there any sort of setup im not doing
[05:20] <garv> drivers maybe?
[05:20] <Mushrooms> Howdy all, I just recently bought a wireless network card, i already checked the compatibility with ubuntu already.. just wondering what i should do about various drivers / procedure to install hardware?
[05:20] <cainram> I mounted an ISO as a volume and all was well until I rebooted. Now I've got this thing on my desktop (not an actual file in my home/desktop) that says XYZ.volume. I can't get rid of it.
[05:20] <OzFalcon> garv, no. are both nics on the mobo
[05:21] <cainram> XYZ.iso.volume, sorry
[05:21] <[R]> Mushrooms: if it works then you dont need to do anything
[05:21] <garv> just wondering because my raid volume isnt showing up either
[05:21] <xeer> Is it possible to get intrepid 8.10 to read ext4?
[05:21] <OzFalcon> garv, one thing at a time
[05:21] <cainram> Running a current 9.04 install
[05:21] <Mushrooms> [R] : yeah well it has got like installation instructions that came with the box... but that's for windows, not linux.. and it does say in big red letters "STOP" run the installation cd first before connecting this device
[05:22] <Mushrooms> soo, this is why i came here looking for a second opinion
[05:22] <DasEi> cainram: did you try to remove the mountpoint of the farmer iso-file ?
[05:22] <cainram> no, I'm not sure what you mean...
[05:22] <kd8JHC> xeer: yes
[05:22] <OzFalcon> garv, Load system/admin/network tools.
[05:22] <kd8JHC> xeer: http://www.tuxmind.org/2009/01/06/ext4-su-ubuntu-810/
[05:23] <kd8JHC> whoops, sorry that's not in english
[05:23] <garv> loaded
[05:23] <xeer> kd8JHC:  hrm
[05:23] <DasEi> cainram: you said you mounted an iso; every fs is mounted to a directory...
[05:23] <OzFalcon> does it list ipv4 on the local (loopback)
[05:24] <garv> yes it does
[05:24] <garv> 127.0.0.01 as the ip
[05:24] <OzFalcon> garv, ok.
[05:24] <OzFalcon> garv, pull the list down. do you have eth0 and eth1
[05:24] <cainram> DasEi: i'm not seeing anything in /mnt or /media related to my problem, is this what you mean?
[05:25] <garv> yes
[05:25] <kd8JHC> xeer: if you have kernel 2.6.28 it should work in 8.10
[05:25] <garv> do you still want me to paste the ifconfig results in?
[05:25] <Mushrooms> sooo.. umm any comments on my problem?
[05:25] <OzFalcon> garv not yet
[05:25] <xeer> kd8JHC:  8.10 ships with 2.6.27
[05:25] <jMyles> [R]: Your last message read like a slogan.  ;-)
[05:26] <[R]> Mushrooms: thats for windows
[05:26] <[R]> Mushrooms: if it works in ubuntu... then you dont need to do anythign
[05:26] <kd8JHC> xeer: dk what to tell you then
[05:26] <cainram> How does Gnome Keep track of my pseudo-desktop stuff? is it a text or config file somewhere that I could manually edit?
[05:26] <OzFalcon> garv, go to a terminal
[05:26] <Mushrooms> [R]: alright imma give it a shot
[05:26] <[R]> cainram: psuedo-desktop?
[05:26] <DasEi> cainram: if you right-click the symbol on you disk > properties > volume , something given there ?
[05:26] <garv> okay
[05:26] <cainram> You know, like mounted volumes and launchers...
[05:26] <cainram> Hmm, one second
[05:26] <[R]> cainram: hal knows what is mounted
[05:27] <cainram> Hal?
[05:27] <cainram> I feel like more of a noob every day...
[05:27] <OzFalcon> garv, type: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[05:28] <cainram> location is listed as "x-nautilus-desktop:///"
[05:28] <cainram> It isn't acting like a mounted volume
[05:28] <garv> all in one line just like that?
[05:28] <lstarnes> garv: yes
[05:28] <OzFalcon> tep
[05:28] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type  mount  is there an entry like   /dev/loop0 on   then some path?
[05:28] <cainram> one sec
[05:29] <garv> says no such file or directory
[05:29] <DasEi> cainram: simply drag icon into trash ?
[05:29] <OzFalcon> garv, make sure no typos
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, Sure it's not there?
[05:30] <garv> sorry didnt see the space. auto lo... iface lo inet loopback
[05:30] <garv> was what i go
[05:30] <garv> got*
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, good.
[05:30] <cainram> dasei: Not working, but I'm a firm believer that the obvious is often overlooked. I've tried deleting it in all of the usual ways. Sometimes I get errors, sometimes nothing but the icon persists.
[05:30] <froduntu> howdie chanel
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, and entries for eth0 or eth1?
[05:31] <zebaztian> i'm having trouble with the desktop computer, i am trying to paste some files in etc udev rules.d i tried chmod 777 /etc/udev/rules.d and yet when i try to paste the files it tells me permission is denied
[05:31] <garv> no all i got was what i typed
[05:31] <OzFalcon> garv, ok
[05:31] <OzFalcon> garv, Thinking........................
[05:31] <cainram> dasei: the error I get on Delete is "The specified location is not supported"
[05:31] <mans28far> OZfal
[05:31] <mans28far> got it
[05:31] <mans28far> thanks
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, working or just got/compiled it?
[05:32] <mans28far> working
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, with STA?
[05:32] <mans28far> yup
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, Cool.
[05:33] <cainram> Ok, I'm going to reboot because my whole nautilus situation is misbehaving... Thanks for the help :) I'll try back later
[05:33] <OzFalcon> garv, Gawd. What happens when you type: sudo ifup eth0
[05:34] <kraut> moin
[05:34] <garv> ignoring unknown interface
[05:35] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. backtrack. when you type ifconfig
[05:35] <harisund> ok guys here's what I want to do. When I keep pressing the enter key I want a program to run.
[05:35] <harisund> anyway I can do it?
[05:35] <OzFalcon> garv, The device associated to ip6 was what?
[05:36] <OzFalcon> garv, did you say both nics were ONBOARD?
[05:36] <garv> sorry, i was trying to enter it manually when i typed that last command
[05:36] <garv> i switched it back to auto
[05:36] <froduntu> does anybody know a chanel about finding other chanels?
[05:36] <garv> and got ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[05:36] <garv> yes both nic's are onboard
[05:36] <froduntu> like a chanel directory chanel?
[05:37] <froduntu> sorry for posting my question here
[05:37] <harisund> Anybody? Any suggestions? I want to execute a program when I keep the "Enter" key pressed for more than 10 seconds
[05:37] <OzFalcon> garv. ok. So nics are seen. ip4 is available. But not being assign to nics......
[05:37] <garv> correct
[05:37] <OzFalcon> Gawd
[05:38] <OzFalcon> Thinking......
[05:38] <lstarnes> froduntu: /msg alis help list
[05:38] <garv> eth0 was the one that had inet6 listed
[05:38] <ice_cream> hi, i'm trying to use xmacro with ubuntu 9.04 but apparently i cant?
[05:38] <garv> eth1 did not
[05:38] <lstarnes> froduntu: there is also http://searchirc.com and http://irc.netsplit.de for online listings
[05:38] <ice_cream> "xmacro is broken with ubuntu 9.04, so if your running ubuntu 9.04 dont bother trying this, the how-to is good, but the esc key (or whatever key you assign) wont work, this is a known bug"
[05:38] <garv> eth0 is where its plugged in atm
[05:38] <ice_cream> would someone like to reply to this =D
[05:38] <froduntu> thanks
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, eth1 didn't have ip4 with it did it??
[05:39] <garv> no
[05:39] <garv> it has neither listed
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. ifdown eth0
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, sudo ifdown eth0
[05:40] <cainram> I'm back
[05:40] <garv> okay
[05:40] <cainram> the problem persists...
[05:40] <ice_cream> and will xmacro still have issues in 9.10 alpha..?
[05:40] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type  mount  is there an entry like   /dev/loop0 on   then some path?
[05:41] <ice_cream> i'm willing to try out an alpha os if that will solve it
[05:41] <cainram> I've tried that and don't see anything standing out...
[05:41] <cainram> can I paste that output here or is that rude?
[05:41] <legend2440> !paste
[05:41] <garv> says interface eth0 not configured
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this. http://nopaste.com/p/azSyhc3ZC
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, type:  sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <garv> mine has line 1,2 thats it
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, and make some eth0 entries like mine.
[05:43] <cainram> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271334/
[05:43] <OzFalcon> garv, once these are in your interfaces files, type: sudo ifup eth0
[05:44] <garv> okay i have the changes typed out
[05:44] <garv> is there anysort of save command i need to type
[05:44] <OzFalcon> garv,save the file (cntrl-o)
[05:45] <zebaztian> what was the command to open up sources list? gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list ?
[05:45] <w0jrl> hello all
[05:45] <lstarnes> zebaztian: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <harisund> Is there a command-line only interface to networkmanager?
[05:45] <legend2440> cainram: its not there. i would try remounting the iso with the same command you used the first time and then unmount it properly
[05:46] <DigitalKiwi> harisund: use wicd
[05:46] <harisund> DigitalKiwi, will check it out thanks :)
[05:46] <DigitalKiwi> which not only is better but has an ncurses interface, i don't think networkmanager does
[05:46] <harisund> DigitalKiwi, Just what i would need then
[05:47] <DigitalKiwi> <3 wicd
[05:47] <cainram> I tried that earlier... The craziest thing happens. As soon as I open the .iso with Archive Mounter all of my desktop Icons disappear and my cube deformation stops working.
[05:47] <garv> its doing a dhcpdiscover
[05:48] <garv> running lines of that right now
[05:48] <Reactor> How to deinstall packages via console?
[05:48] <OzFalcon> garv, type: ifconfig again to see if you have an ip4 address.
[05:48] <lstarnes> Reactor: sudo aptitude remove packagename
[05:48] <eboyjr> Reactor: sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[05:48] <Reactor> thx]
[05:49] <DigitalKiwi> which is better?
[05:49] <eboyjr> Reactor: I put the --purge there so that configuration files would be deleted as well if you are not going to be reinstalling it later and want the same configuration.
[05:49] <Reactor> ok thx ;)
[05:49] <cainram> I'm going to logout and back in...
[05:49] <garv> no but there's an extra eth0 line now
[05:49] <xeer> http://packages.ubunut.com/intrepid/dpkg-dev
[05:49] <xeer> notice the domain name?? IS THIS A SECURITY FLAW??
[05:49] <garv> let me recheck what i typed while doing the nano cmd
[05:50] <Heimark> I don't know if it was updates or installing Sun Java, but now I get crackling noise through my speakers and headset. Anyone have any suggestions?
[05:50] <xeer> shouldn't packages come from ubuntu.com and not "ubunut"?
[05:50] <garv> the lines i added
[05:50] <Mushrooms> i plugged my wireless card in... and then booted ubuntu.. I don't think that it is working
[05:50] <w0jrl> Does anyone know how to unmount a network directory in ubuntu netbook remix? When I was running ubuntu desktop, i was able to just right click the icon and pick unmount volume
[05:50] <garv> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:50] <lstarnes> xeer: it may be an official mirror
[05:50] <garv> then i gave it an ip and netmask
[05:50] <garv> and added auto eth0
[05:50] <garv> at the end
[05:51] <OzFalcon> garv, it should ignore the address (because it's getting via dhcp)
[05:51] <garv> should i delete the address and netmask lines?
[05:51] <Mushrooms> anyone available to give me some advice on my wireless network card?
[05:51] <OzFalcon> garv, no don't worry about them
[05:51] <cainram> i'm back
[05:51] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: get intel
[05:51] <evon> is there a program that will allow me to graphically monitor my local area network? I just want to be able to see who is connected to my network
[05:51] <maco> xeer: if you do a "whois ubunut.com" you'll see that ubunut.com IS actually owned by Canonical, the same company that backs Ubuntu
[05:52] <maco> xeer: i'd guess they bought it to protect people who make typos
[05:52] <k1en> hi, guys, in 'ifconfig', what is "Bcast", is that like the default gateway in windows?
[05:52] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: sorry? I don't understand what you mean
[05:52] <cainram> Again, when i try to check the properties of this icon I get the location as 'x-nautilus-desktop:///"
[05:52] <lstarnes> xeer: ubunut.com appears to point to ubuntu.com
[05:52] <cainram> what does this mean?
[05:52] <lstarnes> k1en: it's the LAN broadcast address
[05:52] <OzFalcon> garv, was ip4 listed in any ethX when you ran ifconfig again?
[05:52] <DigitalKiwi> intel network cards are very well supported
[05:52] <lstarnes> cainram: likely the desktop provided by nautilus
[05:53] <garv> yes
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: *sigh* i only wish someone told me that the otherday when i was asking which one i should buy
[05:53] <garv> in the new eth0 lines
[05:53] <k1en> lstarnes, erm, is that the same as gateway? how do i find the gateway?
[05:53] <cainram> is this accessible like a mount point, or a file or what?
[05:53] <legend2440> cainram: open terminal and type   cd Desktop  then type     ls -al   is the icon listed?
[05:53] <garv> but there were 2 entrys for eth0
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: someone re-directed me to a ubuntu page listing some hardware compatibilities
[05:53] <garv> one did not look right
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: no, it's different
[05:53] <OzFalcon> garv, can you ping that ip from the box your typing from ?
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: it is used for sending packets to every local host
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: then i cross check the one with good support
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: plug it in.. now don't know what to do with it
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: the gateway transmits packets to the outside network
[05:53] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: well as long as you don't have broadcom you're probably set too
[05:54] <Mushrooms> i got a netgear
[05:54] <cainram> no.
[05:54] <k1en> lstarnes, i see,   thanks, so how do i find out the gateway address?
[05:54] <lstarnes> k1en: the broadcast usually ends in .255.  gateways often have .1, but it can be anything from 1 to 254
[05:54] <garv> no i cant
[05:54] <legend2440> cainram: can you see it on the Desktop?
[05:54] <garv> its a 169 ip
[05:54] <lstarnes> k1en: you will usually need to know it already or guess it
[05:54] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps)
[05:55] <garv> do i need to ifdown before i edit that config?
[05:55] <OzFalcon> garv, can that machine ping anything outbound?
[05:55] <OzFalcon> garv (google etc)
[05:55] <cainram> Yeah, that's the problem, I want to get it OFF of the desktop
[05:55] <cainram> I can't find it anywhere else though...
[05:55] <w0jrl> how do I unmount a network directory in ubuntu netbook remix? If someone tryed to answer me befor, i missed it
[05:55] <garv> no
[05:56] <Tanathos> Hola
[05:56] <garv> do i need to ifdown before i edit that config?
[05:56] <evon> is there a program that will allow me to graphically monitor my local area network? I just want to be able to see who is connected to my network...
[05:56] <lstarnes> garv: I don't think so
[05:56] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: well if you have the proper drivers then you should be able to connect via it with a network manager (wicd is a good option) if you don't you will have to find out which ones you need and install them
[05:56] <Tanathos> alguien en español
[05:56] <OzFalcon> garv, no. but you need to down then up again to make the iface reset
[05:56] <Tanathos> ???
[05:56] <lstarnes> !es | Tanathos
[05:56] <Tanathos> gracias
[05:57] <Tanathos> soy nuevo en los IRC
[05:57] <xmnt> evon, netstat
[05:57] <maco> !es | Tanathos
[05:57] <k1en> lstarnes, the reason i'm asking is that i have 2 machines, in one of them the gateway changed suddenly to 0.0.0.0. in the other machine for some reason i cannot see anything in "network connection" (althpough i am connected to the internet)
[05:57] <k1en> so i want to check
[05:57] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: how do i check if i got the drivers? and that computer can not go on the internet at the moment.. any chance i can get it installed without a internet connection (via cd)
[05:57] <maco> Tanathos: a, lo siento
[05:57] <Tanathos> Por q???
[05:58] <harisund> When I minimize a window, why do I see a bunch of black rectangles? (some kind of animation) How do I turn that off?
[05:58] <lstarnes> k1en: what machine are you using as the gateway?
[05:58] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: i don't think it can connect at all, when i click on network manager it doesn't show a wireless connection
[05:58] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: only wired
[05:58] <maco> Tanathos: lstarnes y yo dice !es. solo lstarnes necesita.
[05:58] <maco> Tanathos: uhh...yo no hablo mucho español. /join #ubuntu-es para español
[05:58] <DigitalKiwi> does it have an ethernet port?
[05:58]  * maco gives up
[05:58] <k1en> lstarnes, these two machines are on 2 separtae networks, they are not connected, but both have started to be slugish lately
[05:58] <Tanathos> bien
[05:59] <k1en> lstarnes, so i figure its the same reason (gateway becoming 0.0.0.0)
[05:59] <garv> its like my router isnt seeing this computer
[05:59] <DigitalKiwi> if so you can use that to install the drivers (as it sounds like you don't have them) or you could download them on another pc and transfer via usb, the install cd might have them, i dunno
[05:59] <garv> im gonna reboot the router... brb
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv, ok lets try manual config.
[06:00] <evon> xmnt: thanks but that shows me a whole bunch of other things I don't understatn. I just want to see who is connected to my wireless connection at home.
[06:00] <garv> okay.. want me to reboot the router first?
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv, visit here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[06:00] <lstarnes> k1en: iy may be something else
[06:00] <lstarnes> *it
[06:00] <lstarnes> k1en: do they use DHCP for configuration?
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv,  no. If your mac? is working so should your other boxes.
[06:00] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: is there a way to issue a command to my ubuntu and ask for it to scan for new hardware?
[06:00] <garv> i run dd-wrt on my router you think that would make a difference?
[06:01] <k1en> lstarnes, yes
[06:01] <xmnt> evon, use your wireless router - usually it will be at the address 192.168.1.1, 192.168.0.1, 192.168.2.1
[06:01] <garv> yeah thats what i figured
[06:01] <evon> xmnt: i understand what you mean
[06:01] <lstarnes> k1en: then they should find the gateways automatically when they attempt dhcp setup
[06:01] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: i don't know
[06:01] <harisund> How do I install acrobat reader and corresponding Mozilla plugin?
[06:02] <OzFalcon> garv, visit that site and follow the "Configuring Static IP address for your network card" section
[06:02] <harisund> I want to see PDFs in my browser. Can I do that in Linux?
[06:02] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: oh lol :(
[06:02] <garv> yeah reading it now
[06:02] <garv> i dont need to setup dns?
[06:02] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: someone else might know...I'm not that familiar with ubuntu or gnome
[06:02] <DigitalKiwi> or dpkg for that matter
[06:02] <k1en> lstarnes, you know that icon for networking, when i click edit configuration - there is nothing there. what do you call that ? i want to google the problem , but not sure aboput the key words
[06:02] <lstarnes> k1en: nm-applet
[06:03] <lstarnes> k1en: it's part of NetworkManager
[06:03] <k1en> lstarnes, great thanks
[06:03] <hanasaki> what is a good program for downlaod and management of podcasts?
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> is there an FTP service that allows you to create accounts that aren't "system accounts?"
[06:03] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: lol.. ok
[06:03] <lstarnes> k1en: I usually try to avoid using it
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> perhaps accounts stored in a conf file or XML?
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> !ftp
[06:03] <OzFalcon> garv, no
[06:03] <Mushrooms> Can someone please help me with my wireless network card installation i have a Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps) plugged in
[06:03] <hanasaki> Mushrooms:  whtas the issue
[06:03] <DigitalKiwi> hanasaki: gtkpod i believe can manage them, not sure what to use to download them, never used those
[06:04] <hanasaki> DigitalKiwi:  what do you download with?
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> maybe amarok
[06:04] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: i bought a new Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps) today, because i dropped by the other day asking for advice on which one to buy
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> i don't download podcasts
[06:04] <OzFalcon> garv, You DNS (Domain Name Server) is allocated to your net interface by the DHCP
[06:04] <gOLDfeesh> if you're on KDE use amarok if gnome exaile...
[06:04] <zebaztian> where can i increase or decrease the size of the icons on the desktop?
[06:04] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: i was told that i should check a compatibility with a ubuntu website, and then pick one that works from that list if i wanted it to plug and play
[06:04] <k1en> lstarnes, so what do you use ?
[06:04] <xmnt> gOLDfeesh, ftp is insecure and not at all a good way of sending or accepting files - sftp or a version control system is what you should be looking at
[06:05] <zebaztian> icon size
[06:05] <crdlb> hanasaki: gpodder isn't bad
[06:05] <lstarnes> k1en: I usually just let dhcp's dhclient handle it
[06:05] <OzFalcon> garv, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:05] <hanasaki> gOLDfeesh: gnome.. thanks
[06:05] <OzFalcon> garv, Might be helpful
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> xmnt,  well.. I'm just looking for a services to stream movies to my wii really.
[06:05] <OzFalcon> gpodder is great
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> garv, try sudo service networking restart
[06:05] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: so now i bought it, plugged it in, and... lol it doesn't seem to be registering with my ubuntu... so i dropped by to get some advice
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> or what OzFalcon  said
[06:06] <garv> just tried it
[06:06] <garv> waiting for dhcp discover to end
[06:06] <garv> fingers crossed
[06:06] <xmnt> gOLDfeesh, vlc has excellent streaming - however I'm not to sure if wii will work w/ that
[06:06] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: it said very clearly on the box to put the installation CD in before installing the hardware. but i am guessing that's for windows, not linux
[06:07] <gOLDfeesh> xmnt,  I was never able to get the streaming to work on VLC
[06:07] <hanasaki> Mushrooms: lspci -vvv and look for it
[06:07] <garv> same outcome after restarting the server
[06:07] <garv> going to manually config
[06:07] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: so now it's like... help... TT^TT please?
[06:07] <Sertse> hi
[06:07] <OzFalcon> garv, ok check your dns server is same as on your mac and type that in.
[06:07] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: ok, hang on i need to run to the other computer since it's not connected to the net
[06:08] <hanasaki> Mushrooms:  use the "man" command and check it out
[06:08] <hanasaki> man lspci
[06:09] <hardan> Hello any arbian
[06:09] <cainram> so, I've got this Icon on my desktop left over from a previously mounted .ISO and I can't get rid of it.
[06:09] <cainram> I've tried just about everything.
[06:09] <cainram> HELP!
[06:10] <cainram> I've even gone into nautilus and found "x-nautilus-desktop:///" but I can't delete it from here either.
[06:10] <legend2440> cainram: is there an  x-nautilus-desktop:///  entry in  Places?
[06:11] <garv> what should i put in for the "network" and "broadcast" items
[06:11] <cainram> legend2440: uh, yeah, there is
[06:11] <garv> or just leave them blank?
[06:11] <cainram> I can't access it, though
[06:11] <OzFalcon> garv, hold on
[06:11] <cainram> "the specified location is not supported"
[06:11] <legend2440> cainram: oh ok nevermind you just said you cant delete it.
[06:13] <MrSchmo> anyone know how to fix random freeze/slowdown on video player backs. i installed ff3.5 and browser became slow too
[06:14] <ice_cream> is the record extension completely broken in xserver-xorg in jaunty?
[06:14] <OzFalcon> garv, what was last question?
[06:15] <OzFalcon> garv, Whats happening?
[06:16] <garv> nothing at the moment
[06:16] <garv> networking
[06:16] <garv> and broadcasting
[06:16] <garv> do i need values
[06:16] <garv> for those items or just not enter them?
[06:16] <cainram> what is the cli command for deleting a file? I could try that because I know the path to the file
[06:16] <OzFalcon> garv, ok
[06:16] <cainram> it's worth a shot
[06:16] <OzFalcon> garv, yes
[06:16] <lstarnes> cainram: rm
[06:17] <cainram> rm /path - thats it?
[06:17] <lstarnes> cainram: rm file
[06:17] <wally1337> hi hi.. just wondering.. I had an Xubuntu system running great with a 14 inch lcd monitor.. I plugged it into a viera tv and no X comes up.. just a black screen after the boot screen
[06:17] <wally1337> have*
[06:17] <OzFalcon> garv, just set broadcast to your local net eg. 192.168.255
[06:18] <cainram> so rm x-nautilus-desktop:///filename.iso.volume - that's it?
[06:18] <lstarnes> cainram: that won't work
[06:18] <lstarnes> cainram: you need an absolute filesystem path, not a url/uri like that
[06:18] <OzFalcon> garv, and set networking to your local network. ie 192.168.1.0
[06:18] <OzFalcon> garv, just set broadcast to your local net eg. 192.168.1.255
[06:18] <garv> okay
[06:18] <cainram> that's the only place I've been able to find the 'file'
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, one more thing
[06:19] <wally1337> so is there any way I can set my resolution other than editing my xorg.conf file?
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, the dns resolve.
[06:19] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[06:19] <mattwj2002> I could use some help
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, edit /etc/resolve.conf
[06:20] <mattwj2002> I am trying to get my tv tuner working
[06:20] <mattwj2002> it is a wintv-hvr-850
[06:20] <mattwj2002> hdtv works but not analog
[06:20] <OzFalcon> garv, and add entry "nameserver xx.xx.xx.xx"
[06:20] <Mushrooms> D: hanasaki disappeared >.<
[06:20] <mattwj2002> anyone know where I can get ppa packages for v4l-dvb?
[06:21] <garv>  man
[06:21] <OzFalcon> garv, xx.xx.xx.xx being either your router or your ISP DNS server.
[06:21] <cainram> I'm prepared to create another Administrative user, delete my old one and then create another with the old username... that should do it, right?
[06:21] <mattwj2002> !v4l-dvb
[06:21] <lstarnes> cainram: has restarting done anything?
[06:21] <cainram> I've restarted several times over the last hour.
[06:22] <cainram> I should also mention that trying to remount said ISO goofs up my compiz.
[06:22] <cainram> other isos mount and unmount without incident
[06:23] <owner_> Hello got a big problem.
[06:23] <owner_> My cups is broken
[06:23] <owner_> localhost:631 finds nothing
[06:23] <OzFalcon> garv, this is probable more helpfill that the other links i gave you https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/tcpip.html#tcpip-configuration
[06:23] <cainram> try  a bowl
[06:23] <cainram> Just kidding, sorry...
[06:23] <owner_> I tried reinstalling it.
[06:23] <owner_> Synaptic says it's there.
[06:24] <owner_> Tried to install the hplp-3.9.8.run HP driver
[06:24] <owner_> it says cups isn't installed
[06:24] <owner_> what do I do?
[06:24] <shrooms> so... now that hanasaki isn't here anymore, is there someone else that can help me with my wireless network card installation?
[06:25] <cainram> shrooms, what is the problem
[06:25] <owner_> #ubuntu-support maybe I can find someone there who can help me.
[06:25] <garv> im not understanding the network and broadcast values.. im sorry
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: i bought a wireless network card today, based on the recommendation of other people here to check out compatible wireless network cards in a ubuntu website
[06:26] <aleron6> can anybody help me movie player is muted
[06:26] <aleron6> i need help
[06:26] <aleron6> it mutes everything i try to watch
[06:26] <owner_> It says I'm banned from ubuntu-support :(
[06:26] <owner_> I need to print my documents so I can apply for a job.
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: i got one of those netgear WG311 ones
[06:26] <owner_> can someone help me with cups please?
[06:26] <garv> network would be my routers ip?
[06:26] <cainram> owner: try a different username...
[06:26] <lstarnes> owner_: have you installed cups?
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: so now i plug it in, and boot up ubuntu... and i don't know what to do from here
[06:26] <garv> and broadcast would be my ip?
[06:26] <owner_> yes
[06:26] <lstarnes> garv: the network ends in .0
[06:27] <owner_> synaptic and apt-get say it's installed
[06:27] <garv> okay
[06:27] <cainram> shrooms: is this a usb or pci device
[06:27] <cainram> ?
[06:27] <owner_> but it's not running
[06:27] <garv> and broadcast?
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: i did a lspci -vvv and it shows it in that list
[06:27] <owner_> it can't be contacted at localhost:631
[06:27] <lstarnes> owner_: this may be useful:"
[06:27] <lstarnes> !cups | owner_
[06:27] <lstarnes> garv: ends in .255
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: pci
[06:27] <cainram> shrooms: have you ever used ndiswrapper?
[06:27] <lstarnes> garv: it depends on what your router is and what your netmask is
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: not yet
[06:28] <owner_> My cups isn't running
[06:28] <garv> okay i got it
[06:28] <owner_> and it says it's fully installed
[06:28] <owner_> I've been to lots of sites
[06:28] <garv> i didnt realize he was telling me at first
[06:28] <xeer> I have gcc 4.3 installed. g++ wont install though complaining about gcc not being installed! what should I do??
[06:28] <lstarnes> owner_: try sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[06:28] <owner_> ok
[06:28] <subodh_> how do i install a webcam in ubuntu???can anyone point me to a documentation?
[06:28] <cainram> I suggest you look into it. If you can find the windows driver for your hardware then you can use it under linux with this utility
[06:29] <[R]> subodh_: you just plug it in
[06:29] <cainram> it is a little confusing at first but if you stick with it you should have some luck
[06:29] <shrooms> cainram: i just did a quick man for it... i can't find it..
[06:29] <owner_> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found
[06:29] <subodh_> [R]: what apps lets you view the video??
[06:29] <[R]> subodh_: i've used cheese
[06:29] <cainram> shrooms: look in the add/remove programs utility for Ubuntu
[06:30] <cainram> it's in the repository
[06:30] <lstarnes> owner_: is cupsys installed?
[06:30] <owner_> just installed it
[06:30] <xeer> I have gcc 4.3 installed. g++ wont install though complaining about gcc not being installed!
[06:30] <owner_> sudo apt-get install cupsys
[06:30] <owner_> it still spits out the same error
[06:30] <subodh_> [R]: thanks
[06:30] <owner_> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found.
[06:30] <xmnt> owner_, updatedb   ... locate cupsys
[06:31] <lstarnes> owner_: what about cups?
[06:31] <lstarnes> owner_: the initscript may have changed between my version and yours
[06:31] <garv> the dns thing doesnt work
[06:31] <owner_> I know it's installed but I'll run apt-get
[06:31] <harisund> Can I view PDfs in my browser?
[06:31] <harisund> Acrobat plugin for mozilla available on Ubuntu?
[06:31] <shrooms> maybe i should just go back to windows ~.~
[06:31] <OzFalcon> garv, I was just out a sec. broadcast is just your local net work with 255 on the end.
[06:31] <owner_> cups is already the newest version.
[06:31] <cainram> shrooms: whats up?
[06:31] <xmnt> /etc/init.d/cups
[06:32] <shrooms> cainram: the other computer doesn't have an internet connection either.. so.. i am at a loss too i can get it off the repository on this computer, but i don't want to install it here, i want to install it there XD
[06:32] <xeer> shrooms:  go back to your windows. people that use linux have an understanding of drivers and how hardware to software works.
[06:32] <garv> okay i think i seriously messed something up
[06:33] <shrooms> xeer: well that's nice, and you're not helping newbies either. no need to put them down for this
[06:33] <mattwj2002> shrooms what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <garv> is there anyway to go back to default?
[06:33] <garv> or reset this somehow?
[06:33] <shrooms> xeer: people come here to get help, not to get dissed by people like you
[06:33] <cainram> shrooms: i"m not sure what xeer means but I think he/she's being a little rude... I want to help you work this out, i've been in stickier situations.
[06:34] <aleron6> does anybody here have the same problems i do
[06:34] <owner_> * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                 cupsd: Child exited with status 1!
[06:34] <garv> wait
[06:34] <zebaztian> nobody helping me over at kubuntu, i installed kubuntu desktop then i had to reboot, when i reboot, kwin crashed
[06:34] <garv> i did ficonfig
[06:34] <OzFalcon> garv, ok where are you at? can you ping that manual ip you set from the mac?
[06:34] <aleron6> with the movie player
[06:34] <owner_> FAIL!
[06:34] <garv> and under eth0
[06:34] <garv> i have
[06:34] <zebaztian> then when i rebooted kwin crashed and metacity took over and it rendered it impossible to do anything
[06:34] <owner_> I don't know why it's failing to start.
[06:34] <OzFalcon> garv, and you CAN ping it?
[06:34] <zebaztian> i don't know if i missed something after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <owner_> does anyone know why cups would fail to start?
[06:34] <zebaztian> also for some reason i can't enable desktop effects
[06:35] <garv> no
[06:35] <garv> but
[06:35] <garv> i didnt do the dns thing
[06:35] <owner_> I'm using a proxy but would that have to do with localhost:631 ? or my virtual box networking device?
[06:35] <cainram> shrooms: so let me get this straight, you can't get a connection on the computer that you are installing the wireless NIC into?
[06:35] <garv> where do i start with that
[06:35] <albn> I am trying to install components for winetricks, but it says packages do not exist. What am I doing wrong?
[06:35] <Tanathos> install compiz from repocitorios
[06:35] <mattwj2002> aleron6 what is the problem with the movie player?
[06:35] <albn> or with winetricks rather
[06:35] <aleron6> its muted
[06:35] <OzFalcon> garv, you should be able to ping it without the DNS operational. We NEED to be sure ip4 is working 1st
[06:36] <owner_> :(
[06:36] <shrooms> cainram: yes that's correct i used to have a phone socket right next to this computer, but it broke, so the router has been moved to the other side of the house, and ethernet cable will not reach
[06:36] <owner_> #Cups
[06:36] <OzFalcon> garv, you know how to ping from your mac?
[06:36] <xmnt> shrooms, move the computer
[06:36] <garv> yes
[06:36] <garv> it said no route to host
[06:36] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[06:36] <garv> host is down
[06:37] <shrooms> xmnt: i was hoping you wouldn't say that
[06:37] <Tanathos> zebaztian: install compiz from repocitorios
[06:37] <cainram> shrooms: ok, you have two options, hear me out
[06:37] <shrooms> cainram: i'm all ears
[06:37] <mattwj2002> aleron have you tried turning up the volume on the program?  if that doesn't work have you tried turning up the volume (or unmuting it on the mixer)
[06:37] <xmnt> shrooms, i hate doing it too ... i have a computer and the wireless card never works on a fresh install ... it's a pain - but it's the fastest way
[06:37] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. are these machines all connected via a common hub?
[06:38] <cainram> shrooms: the first is obvious... physically move the computer to a place where you can get a wired connection.
[06:38] <garv> they goto a hub, then to a router
[06:38] <shrooms> cainram: yep
[06:38] <garv> i see a mistake a made
[06:38] <garv> give me a min
[06:38] <cainram> shrooms: the other involves aptoncd, ever heard of it?
[06:38] <shrooms> cainram: getting it off a CD
[06:38] <OzFalcon> garv, any errors on the "NETWORK" entry or "ADDRESS" entry may cause that.
[06:39] <owner_> Well I posted in the cups room. Don't know if they will get back to me.
[06:39] <garv> whats the difference between the "vi" and "nano" cmd?
[06:39] <owner_> #kubuntu
[06:40] <OzFalcon> garv, what does ifconfig on your mac say? ie what is the ip4 address?
[06:40] <lstarnes> garv: they're different programs
[06:40] <OzFalcon> garv, nano is easier.
[06:40] <cainram> shrooms: yeah, install NDISWrapper on another ubuntu computer and then use aptoncd (also in the repository) to backup all of the computer's packages. You then burn a cd and put it in the non-connected computer and use synaptec to intsall ndiswrapper
[06:40] <cainram> I've done exactly this procedure for exactly this reason
[06:40] <cainram> and it worked like a charm
[06:40] <garv>  ifconfig
[06:40] <garv> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
[06:40] <garv> 	inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 fd65:edae:352e:907:217:f2ff:fe99:1982 prefixlen 128
[06:40] <garv> gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
[06:41] <garv> stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
[06:41] <OzFalcon> Ahhh
[06:41] <garv> en1: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
[06:41] <OzFalcon> no
[06:41] <Shamoun> can gparted resize ext3 / ext4 partitions?
[06:41] <garv> 	ether 00:17:f2:99:19:82
[06:41] <garv> 	media: autoselect (<unknown type>) status: inactive
[06:41] <garv> 	supported media: autoselect
[06:41] <shrooms> cainram: i see, fantastic
[06:41] <mattwj2002> !flood
[06:41] <Flannel> garv: Please use the pastebin in the future
[06:41] <garv> fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2030
[06:41] <garv> 	lladdr 00:17:f2:ff:fe:70:be:64
[06:41] <garv> 	media: autoselect <full-duplex> status: inactive
[06:41] <garv> 	supported media: autoselect <full-duplex>
[06:41] <lstarnes> garv: stop
[06:41] <cainram> Shrooms: is this something you can tackle without more help?
[06:41] <lstarnes> garv: please remember to use a pastebin
[06:41] <cainram> lstarnes: thank you!
[06:42] <shrooms> cainram: i am looking into it now
[06:43] <shrooms> cainram: thanks for you help I'm going to try that out now.
[06:43] <mattwj2002> shrooms word of advice
[06:43] <wally1337> yo how do i set the resolution for gnome from the cli?
[06:43] <shrooms> and xeer: who ever you are, i hope one day, you'll come across something you don't know, and someone else will come across and just put you down. it will be good fun to eat your own medicine
[06:43] <owner_> do you guys know who I could chat with that would know how to fix my cups problem.
[06:44] <shrooms> mattwj2002: yea? i'm listening
[06:44] <mattwj2002> with linux I recommend having a nice 50 foot ethernet cable around the house
[06:44] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:44] <cainram> shrooms, you'll have to use Add/Remove to add the CD as a software source. Once you've done that you can use synaptec to install packages from said cd. Just look in the bottom left corner and click the
[06:44] <cainram> "origin" button
[06:44] <cainram> the CD will appear there
[06:44] <shrooms> mattwj2002: lol i should go get one made yea XD
[06:44] <mattwj2002> :D
[06:44] <Celroc> owner_: May want to post your question here again, maybe someone who came in recently will know :-)
[06:44] <shrooms> cainram: yes i know how to add a CD as a repository so that part should be ok
[06:44] <legend2440> owner_: have you tried channel  ##cups
[06:44] <owner_> yes
[06:45] <owner_> no one has responded yet.
[06:45] <cainram> cool, you shouldn't have any problems
[06:45] <zebaztian> for some reason i can't use desktop effects
[06:45] <owner_> Ok I'll restate my problem.
[06:45] <shrooms> cainram yea :D thanks again for your help!
[06:45] <zebaztian> i tried to enable them and it said they cannot be enabled
[06:45] <xmnt> owner_, something tells me cups isn't a very active channel
[06:45] <cainram> Shrooms: any other questions contact me at davidramseycain at gmail.com
[06:45] <owner_> Hello I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I need to print stuff to apply for a job. My CUPS is busted. It won't start. I reinstalled it and did everything. cupsys is installed. Synaptic and apt-get say it's there but when I try to install hplip-3.9.8 it tells me CUPS is not installed. Also localhost:631 gives me nothing. CUPS is dead. When I try to start it I get a exit status 1 fail.
[06:45] <cainram> Shrooms: good luck!
[06:45] <owner_> sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart  ... invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found.
[06:45] <shrooms> cainram: sweet thanks again!
[06:45] <cainram> no prob
[06:45] <cainram> peace out
[06:46] <Celroc> zebaztian: Pardon me, but we might need a bit more information. Are you using Compiz?
[06:46] <zebaztian> Celroc, how do i check?
[06:46] <Celroc> Pardon me, all, but does it seem like CUPS isn't installed for some reason on owner_'s computer?
[06:47] <owner_> lol :)
[06:47] <mattwj2002> man I wish I was good with cups
[06:47] <albn> hmm
[06:47] <mattwj2002> I have a HP printer those are easy
[06:47] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:47] <Celroc> zebaztian: Umm.... not sure. I'm not real good with Linux myself, yet.... sorry. Anyone know how to check?
[06:48] <owner_> Mine is an HP Deskjet F4280 All in one
[06:48] <nix-idioteque> mattwj2002: the trick is putting them to your lip before you tilt it
[06:48] <mattwj2002> you have hp?
[06:48] <mattwj2002> :D
[06:48] <owner_> the hplip-3.9.8.run package tried to install cups
[06:48] <owner_> and other packages
[06:48] <owner_> I think I made the mistake of running it as root once
[06:48] <Celroc> zebaztian: Although, if you didn't install it, you probably don't have it... I don't think it's a default package
[06:48] <owner_> and I'm not sure where it stuck all it's stuff
[06:48] <owner_> it told me running it as root would be a bad idea
[06:49] <owner_> so I didn't
[06:49] <mattwj2002> do you have hp-setup ?
[06:49] <owner_> but I can't help but think it stuck something somewhere as root
[06:49] <owner_> hp-setup?
[06:49] <mattwj2002> yeah
[06:49] <owner_> never heard of it but I'll install it
[06:49] <zebaztian> how can i check if i have compiz?
[06:49] <mattwj2002> yeah
[06:49] <mattwj2002> open up a console
[06:50] <musicfella> and type in compiz =D
[06:50] <legend2440> owner_: there is no /etc/init.d/cupsys file its   /etc/init.d/cups i think  did you browse to  /etc/init.d to check for the file?
[06:50] <mattwj2002> and see if you have a program called hp-setup
[06:51] <owner_> I ran that tool
[06:51] <owner_> too
[06:51] <mattwj2002> and it didn't work?
[06:51] <owner_> it gave me this: Usage: /etc/init.d/cups {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status}
[06:51] <owner_> So then I typed ./cups restart
[06:51] <owner_> and it went nuts
[06:52] <owner_> so I typed ./cups start
[06:52] <cainram> xeer: you still there?
[06:52] <mattwj2002> just for fun
[06:52] <owner_> I got the same error: * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                 cupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
[06:52] <mattwj2002> not sure if this will work but it is a guess
[06:52] <owner_> WOW
[06:52] <mattwj2002> try sudo apt-get install cups
[06:52] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:52] <wally1337> fuck you cunts are useless
[06:52] <owner_> that's a difrent error. before it was signal 1
[06:53] <cainram> wally1337: way to accept the COC...
[06:53] <lstarnes> owner_: If I remember correctly, signal 15 is a segmentation fault
[06:53] <owner_> cups is already the newest version.
[06:53] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[06:53] <owner_> as apt quotes it
[06:53] <owner_> :)
[06:53] <mattwj2002> ok
[06:53] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:53] <cainram> wally1337: clever leet name, by the way.
[06:53] <mattwj2002> !printers
[06:53] <Flannel> wally1337: Please watch your language.
[06:53] <legend2440> qwner what does   /etc/init.d/cups status   say?
[06:53] <owner_> is ubottu a bot?
[06:53] <prince_jammys> yes.
[06:54] <owner_> I keep getting those links from him
[06:54] <xmnt> no, midget
[06:54] <owner_> useless
[06:54] <mattwj2002> owner_ have you tried this page?
[06:54] <mattwj2002> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[06:54] <ZachK18> what up
[06:54] <mattwj2002> yeah he is I brought him up
[06:54] <mattwj2002> !beer
[06:54] <xmnt> midgets shouldn't drink beer
[06:54] <legend2440> !anything
[06:55] <Flannel> !offtopic
[06:55] <xmnt> Flannel, no-one's asking ?'s ... flooding the channel w/ offtopic is not only annoying it's pointless
[06:55] <Ulises> Hi
[06:55] <ZachK18> hi ulises
[06:55] <Flannel> xmnt: You're right, which is why people shouldn't be offtopic at all.
[06:56] <Ulises> hi ZachK18
[06:56] <owner_> I'll take a look
[06:56] <xmnt> Flannel, that makes no sense at all
[06:56] <cainram> so wally just sent me a friendly message letting me know that I'm a faggot jew. That's real nice. At least I got to help one person with their computing problem before I had to log of to avoid being abused.
[06:56] <ZachK18> exactly...if you're not on topic, don't join the channel
[06:56] <mattwj2002> okay sounds good
[06:56] <Ulises> I've got a problem with my Ubuntu
[06:56] <mattwj2002> sorry I wish I was more help :)
[06:56] <ZachK18> ok ulises
[06:56] <Ulises> It's not working, doesn't start up
[06:56] <mattwj2002> that page at least gives a few ideas
[06:56] <Flannel> cainram: #ubuntu-ops is the place you should go in the future if you're having problems with users.
[06:56] <Ulises> stops at the banner UBUNTU
[06:57] <owner_> E [14/Sep/2009:22:04:03 -0700] "/etc/cups/ssl/server.crt" is a bad symlink - No such file or directory
[06:57] <ZachK18> hmmm Ulises private chat me
[06:57] <mattwj2002> o.O
[06:57] <cainram> flannel: thanks for the advice but I don't have a problem. Wally does.
[06:57] <Flannel> cainram: Right, you should let the operators know in that channel, not this channel.
[06:57] <lstarnes> owner_: you may need to generate ssl certificates for it
[06:58] <cainram> will do
[06:58] <cainram> thanks
[07:01] <cainram> I'm having problems with an Icon on my gnome desktop that i can't seem to get rid of.
[07:02] <cainram> anyone know about x-nautilus-desktop:///
[07:02] <cainram> ?
[07:02] <lstarnes> cainram: see if anything appears from ls ~/Desktop
[07:03] <Painkilla05> hi walter
[07:03] <cainram> lstarnes: no joy
[07:03] <soreau> cainram: What icon?
[07:03] <lstarnes> cainram: try ls -lA ~/Desktop
[07:04] <shroom> cainram: lol physically moving the computer works
[07:04] <verb3k> I have a question:  I am on Windows XP and VirtualBox, and I have an ext3 partition. Can I make my ubuntu "guest" see this ext3 partition? thanks in advance
[07:04] <Painkilla05> hi wsmith
[07:04] <cainram> i mounted an ISO as a volume. Now i have this icon that is called XYZ.iso.volume
[07:04] <cainram> shroom: COOL, much easier!
[07:05] <cainram> shroom, sometimes aptoncd is a godsend, sometimes it is a nightmare... Much like Linux!
[07:05] <legend2440> cainram: browse to /home/yourusername/.nautilus/metafiles  is there an xml file there called   x-nautilus-desktop:%2F%2F%2F.xml  or something similar?  if so open it and see if that iso icon is listed in there
[07:05] <shroom> cainram: now just gotta get the ndsiwrapper thing, i googled for a solution it directed me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 i guess that's pretty close
[07:05] <owner_> I don't need ssl certificates lstarnes it's just not working.
[07:05] <cainram> shroom: don't get lost...
[07:06] <lstarnes> owner_: the error message that you posted earlier referrs to a missing ssl cert
[07:06] <shroom> cainram: lol i agree, when you get it working, it's a super well oiled machine
[07:06] <lstarnes> owner_: you may be able to configure cups to not use ssl
[07:06] <cainram> shroom: all you need is NDISwrapper and the windows device driver...
[07:06] <Ulises1> Hi
[07:06] <cainram> check the ndiswrapper documentation for details
[07:07] <shroom> cainram: yup i'm installing ndsiwrapper now
[07:07] <Ulises1> HJi all
[07:07] <Ulises1> I need some help with ubuntu
[07:07] <Ulises1> some technical help
[07:07] <chalcedony> Ulises1, it works best to say the problem
[07:07] <soreau> ! ask | Ulises1
[07:08] <Ulises1> the ubuntu doesn't start up
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> EX. Do I look fat in these pants?
[07:08] <xmnt> Ulises1, did you hit the power button?
[07:08] <chalcedony> Ulises1, what have you done so far, what screens do you see?
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> repeat if necessary, it does get busy here
[07:08] <cainram> legend2440: AhA! this is the kind of thing i was looking for! let me take a look!
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> Ulises1: install it...
[07:08] <Ulises1> The slogan UBUNTU
[07:09] <Ulises1> that's what i see
[07:09]  * Painkilla05 pokes wsmith 
[07:09] <Ulises1> it stops at the process of startig up
[07:09] <Ulises1> freezes
[07:10] <soreau> Ulises1: What are the specs of the computer you're trying to run Ubuntu on?
[07:10] <owner_> lstarnes how would I configure cups to work without ssl?
[07:10] <Ulises1> all?
[07:10] <hermatize> ubbbey
[07:10] <lstarnes> owner_: I honestly don't know, sorry
[07:10] <owner_> :) thanks
[07:10] <poet> where do I get '/swrast_dri.so' from?
[07:10] <xmnt> Ulises1, right when it starts the ubuntu screen hit alt+f2 ... this will let you see what's starting up and also the error messages that are normally hidden
[07:10] <Ulises1> sorry
[07:11] <Ulises1> is a HP 530
[07:11] <Ulises1> a notebook
[07:11] <poet> A program I have is looking for /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: and cant find it
[07:11] <Ulises1> yes the problen is located in init
[07:11] <soreau> poet: What are you trying to do?
[07:11] <lstarnes> owner_: it's probably somewhere in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[07:11] <Ulises1> and there is a kernel panic
[07:11] <Ulises1> banner
[07:11] <poet> soreau: use Xvfb
[07:11] <cainram> legend2440: Ok, it wasn't in the "desktop" xml but there is an xml file named for the folder from which I mounted the iso - if that makes sense... Should I delete this xml or edit it or what?
[07:11] <owner_> I'll look there
[07:11] <Ulises1> this is very difficult to explain this way
[07:11] <soreau> poet: What does 'glxinfo|grep renderer' say?
[07:12] <ujuntu> Hello
[07:12] <poet> soreau: glxinfo is not installed
[07:12] <mike_-> hello, i'm looking for some installation help, if anyone is available
[07:12] <cainram> legend2440: will it hurt to delete these xml files?
[07:13] <soreau> poet: Install mesa-utils
[07:13] <ujuntu> How do I find out which Glib version is installed on Ubuntu 8.04?
[07:13] <tasslehoff> I want to setup a network with WPA-PSK and TKIP encryption. Can't this be done from the network manager? Can't find any choices for it.
[07:13] <legend2440> cainram: ok lets try this.  open terminal and type  sudo updatedb  then when that finishes  type   locate <iconname>.volume or whatever it is and see if   locate can find the actual icon
[07:13] <owner_> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf says nothing about ssl only that it uses localhost:631
[07:14] <chahine> slt
[07:14] <poet> soerau: here is what I get when I try to run glxinfo when Xvfb is bound to the display
[07:14] <poet> soerau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271346/
[07:14] <brijith> I  am trying to translate my python + gtk application .. I done everything as per http://www.learningpython.com/2006/12/03/translating-your-pythonpygtk-application/
[07:14] <cainram> legend, ok
[07:15] <cainram> legend, running
[07:15] <soreau> Ulises1: In here please.
[07:16] <brijith>  I  am trying to translate my python + gtk application .. I done everything as per http://www.learningpython.com/2006/12/03/translating-your-pythonpygtk-application/ But the translation in the glade file is not working. The messages that I set through the python code is getting translated
[07:16] <Thomas___> Yo
[07:16] <brijith> Please help meee
[07:16] <Keiffer> Hi. I have multiple user on my little poor Ubuntu and I want to do something to resume the downloads of Transmission, when users log in and out
[07:16] <soreau> Ulises1: You need to install mesa-utils and run 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[07:17] <ujuntu> How do I find out what glibc version I have installed?
[07:17] <clarkkent12880> ok i'm a relative n00b to ubuntu and linux in general but the 10keys that are on the right side of a standard keyboard is supposed to work like in plain old windows right? I hit num lock and i can type away to my hearts content entering numbers + - / * or . well my plain jane usb keyboard doesn't do that...
[07:17] <clarkkent12880> any ideas?
[07:17] <cainram> legend2440: what should I expect in the way of output?
[07:17] <soreau> Ulises: You need to install mesa-utils and run 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[07:17] <cainram> I'm not getting anything usefull
[07:18] <cainram> shroom: how's it goin?
[07:18] <soreau> ! pm | Ulises
[07:18] <shroom> cainram: i am reading on how to use the ndiswrapper now
[07:18] <shroom> cainram: from google and other places.. needs an .inf file i think
[07:18] <cainram> shroom: cool, keep on truckin
[07:18] <legend2440> cainram: nothing with sudo updatedb that just  updates the database that locate uses  but hopefully   locate <iconname>.volume   wil give path to the icon
[07:18] <mike_-> i am having a problem with my monitor and ubuntu communicating in order to install, i get the "cannot display this video mode optimum resolution 1280x1024 60Hz"
[07:19] <mike_-> liveCD in safe graphics mode works, with 800x600 resolution only
[07:19] <Keiffer> clarkkent12880, maybe you set another keyboard layout?
[07:19] <poet> is there a package with Xorg gl drivers?
[07:19] <cainram> yeah, you are looking for an INI file, I've had situations where I've had to use Windows or Wine to extract the drivers to the point where I could direct NDISWrapper to an INI file, keep on keepin' on!!!
[07:19] <clarkkent12880> oops
[07:20] <clarkkent12880> i just went to 105 character layout and it works now
[07:20] <clarkkent12880> i'm so smart sometimes :D
[07:21] <cainram> legend2440, no joy in mudville.
[07:21]  * clarkkent12880 is feeling smart
[07:21] <Keiffer> how do i do this in transmission: Huh? I want when user X is downloading littlekitty.avi and logs out and the user Y logs in, littlekitty.avi is resumed
[07:21] <cainram> Legend2440: let's get back to those xml files. Can I just delete those with reckless abandon? I have a gut feeling that the problem is there somewhere...
[07:22] <poet> anyone have any idea where /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so comes from?
[07:22] <mathijs> Hi all, I have some packages I make some changes to and rebuild them to .debs. I keep the .deb files in a directory and put a deb file: line in my sources.list. Now, I would like apt to prefer my packages over the default ones (/apt/preferences) but how can I do this? Do I need to set a Origin: line in control? or is there a better way?
[07:22] <legend2440> cainram: it is safe to delete that file. it will be recreated next time you reboot. not sure if it will help though. or you could rename it by puttinng  .bak to the end of it
[07:22] <cainram> legend2440: ah, good idea. I'll try.
[07:23]  * clarkkent12880 thinks they should write a book called "Linux for the windows refugee"
[07:24] <shroom> cainram: ok i think i am ready. i just browsed the cd though.. i can only find one .inf file... i wonder if that would be the one i choose
[07:24] <cainram> what is the path...
[07:24] <SharpRain> Lol hi
[07:24] <bod> hi, what is the name of the live usb creator program? e.g. what would I type to run it from a terminal
[07:25] <Guest97666> hallo
[07:25] <Ulises> soreau, I guess this has nothing to do with the NVIDIA driver, and that the proposal is hasty
[07:25] <shroom> cainram: yeah that's the thing, the path looks too dodgy for me. it's called autorun.inf
[07:25] <dab_> Can anyone help me getting tmsnc up and running? /q
[07:25] <shroom> in the top directory within the cd
[07:25] <cainram> no
[07:25] <soreau> Ulises: Let's start over. What's the problem?
[07:25] <shroom> cainram: there's a /bin/driver folder but it has no .inf nor .sys file
[07:26] <cainram> shroom: are you using a cd for the driver or what?
[07:26] <shroom> cainram: has an .exe + a .tbl
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (05:59:58) Ulises: I've an HP530 with Hardy Heron Ubuntu installed on it
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:00:19) Ulises: I've been using ir since december 2008 without problems
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:00:42) Ulises: recently i tryed to install a video editor
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:19) Ulises: and it started showing problems on starting up
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:29) Ulises: ...
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:57) Ulises: The system used to ask me for a fsck
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:12) Ulises: but a manual fsck an I jumped it a lot of times
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:27) Ulises: till it become forced
[07:26] <shroom> cainram: cd that came with the box
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:30) Ulises: so I did it and
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:42) Ulises: after that couldn't star up normally
[07:26] <Flannel> eviljussi01: /at Ulises 1
[07:26] <Flannel> Ulises: Please don't paste like that in the future.  That entire thing could be one single line.
[07:27] <xeer> I'm trying to install build-essential 11.4 but it depends on g++. even though I have gcc installed g++ keeps saying it depends on gcc. 'gcc -v' returns 4.3.2
[07:27] <cainram> shroom: ok, the .exe may or may not be a self extracting archive. these can be opened with ubuntu. Try right clicking on the .exe and opening it with the archive manager...
[07:28] <shroom> cainram: alright, i'm trying to view the contents now with an archive manager
[07:28] <Sunny007> Morning Guz and Girlz and Otherz :)
[07:28] <cainram> shroom: i'm dealing with my own mess... I'll log back in and check on you in a few minutes, ok?
[07:28] <Bodsda> found it, for anyone who is interested, the program name is 'usb-creator'
[07:29] <cainram> I need a reboot...
[07:29] <shroom> cainram: ok
[07:29] <shroom> cainram: no problem
[07:29] <cainram> shroom: hang in there
[07:29] <iceblock> ello everyone, how ya all been
[07:29] <Ulises> ok
[07:30] <Ulises> so it showed an error
[07:30] <Ulises> when I try to start at "recovery mode"
[07:30] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271354/
[07:30] <poet> any idea why apt-get isn't finding the package 'dbus-python' ?
[07:30] <Ulises> sorry for the pasting at the channel
[07:31] <Ulises> Flannel, got it
[07:32] <Bodsda> !info dbus-python
[07:32] <Bodsda> poet: ^^
[07:32] <poet> yeah looks like its python-dbus
[07:32] <Bodsda> !info python-dbus
[07:32] <Bodsda> poet: yep
[07:32] <poet> my bad
[07:32] <mintux> last night when I got ls /dev/video* I had /dev/video0 /dev/video1 but now I have just /dev/video1 and my webcam doesn't work . I got lsusb and I see mywebcam there 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd PC-CAM350  so what can I do and why does it happen ?
[07:32] <Bodsda> no worries :)
[07:33] <iceblock> anyone going snowboarding?
[07:33] <Ulises> not my lucky day, your's faithfull.
[07:33] <cainram> legend2440: I deleted all of the relevant xml files and the desktop icon still persists....
[07:33] <Bodsda> !ot | iceblock
[07:33] <soreau> iceblock: If it's on your dime, yes
[07:33] <cainram> shrooms: i'm back
[07:34] <iceblock> its not that off topic cause im ontop of Mt Ruapehu in New Zealand snow boarding...yeeeaa!
[07:35] <iceblock> anyone know who to convert .ppm to jpg?
[07:35] <iceblock> how to convert ppm to jpg?
[07:35] <xeer> I'm trying to install build-essential 11.4 but it depends on g++. even though I have gcc installed g++ keeps saying it depends on gcc. 'gcc -v' returns 4.3.2
[07:35] <shroom> cainram: wb :)
[07:35] <xeer> iceblock:  why not just use google to find out
[07:36] <shroom> xeer: i could almost use your response for your own question.
[07:36] <cainram> shroom: ha!
[07:37] <shroom> cainram: *shrugs* XD
[07:37] <xeer> shroom:  yes it's confusing. I installed gcc with dpkg, which displays no errors and I have /usr/bin/gcc-4.3 though my attempts to install g++ fail stating gcc is not installed
[07:38] <clarkkent12880> ok ok another stupid question time... whats a good and secure ftp server for ubuntu?
[07:38] <kwork> clarkkent12880, vsftpd
[07:38] <cainram> He's trashing you for using windows drivers when you have no other choice and yet he's suggesting you use freedom-hating, proprietary search MONSTER like Google...
[07:38] <Flannel> clarkkent12880: sftp?  openssh-server
[07:39] <sarthor> Hi, Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop i386, Matrox G450 Dual head VGA card, i have same Display on 2 monitors, how to use double monitors, HELP
[07:39] <shroom> cainram: lol
[07:39] <xeer> cainram:  proprietary search monster??
[07:39] <clarkkent12880> thanx
[07:40] <brandon> guys i need a line of code that will allow the program i making in gambas see the serial number of both the cpu and bios any ideas?
[07:40] <cainram> xeer: ok, tell yah what, let's have a truce and ignore each other - i like to wind people up and i don't want to do that here and now.
[07:41] <shroom> cainram: may i send you a pm?
[07:41] <cainram> shroom, sure
[07:41] <shroom> ok
[07:42] <legend2440> cainram: is that icon listed in    /home/yourusername/.gconf/apps/nautilus/desktop/%gconf.xml  ?
[07:42] <AZ> any tutorial for ffmpeg flvtool mplayer for ubuntu 8.1 ??
[07:43] <Flannel> Myrtti: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bak && sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:43] <Myrtti> Flannel: thanks, I was just reading that myself
[07:43] <Flannel> Myrtti: (and then sudo apt-get update)
[07:43] <Poul|Raider> anyone care to tell me what i would put in my ssh config file to do the following connection ?  : ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955 user@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk
[07:44] <poet> where is the dbus log?
[07:48] <cainram> legend2440: i'm looking around in this area but not finding any references to this particular 'file'
[07:49] <legend2440> cainram: no .gconf directory? its a hidden folder
[07:50] <Poul|Raider> Need a bit help creating ssh config file for the following connection ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955 user@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk
[07:50] <cainram> legend2440: no, I found the directory and am poking around... I'm just not finding any xml files with references to the .volume file in question
[07:50] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[07:50] <mattwj2002> what is the bug with the intel graphics in ubuntu 9.04?
[07:51] <fez> vaguer please
[07:51] <mattwj2002> could it cause a flickering display?
[07:51] <mattwj2002> I have an Eee Pc 900
[07:51] <whit2spring> 1
[07:53] <legend2440> cainram: oh ok. i'm running out of ideas and google hasnt been much help for this particular problem
[07:55] <cainram> hey!
[07:55] <cainram> legend!
[07:55] <cainram> I Finally found an xml file in .nautilus that had a reference to my issue!
[07:55] <cainram> I'm gonna logout and let you know what happened
[07:55] <legend2440> ok
[07:56] <cainram> legend2440: i deleted the .xml file. we'll see...
[07:59] <cainram> legend2440: dagnabbit!
[07:59] <cainram> Still there!
[08:03] <legend2440> cainram: if you open nautilus is there  an    x-nautilus-desktop  entry in the left side pane?  if so can you right click it and choose  unmount?
[08:04] <mandiri> SARITO
[08:04] <sree> Enter text here...hello
[08:04] <sree> helo
[08:05] <Gobbel> hello
[08:05] <sree> is anyone there
[08:05] <Gobbel> jep me:)
[08:07] <fixxxer> Hi can someone tel me whats the ubuntuone channel need to ask some questions?
[08:07] <fixxxer> or where's ubuntuone channel
[08:07] <legend2440> !karmic | fixxxer
[08:07] <fixxxer> cool
[08:08] <fixxxer> thanks
[08:08] <lat_> My printer driver is suddenly messed up, and can print only graphics and links. Text does not print. Anyone know a cure?
[08:10] <Indian`> black carriage
[08:11] <Poul|Raider> Anyone here happen to know a resolution for maple13 and plots just showing up as black plots, assuming its something due to hardware acceleration?
[08:14] <legend2440> cainram: any luck?
[08:14] <cainram> legend: not yet
[08:15] <legend2440> cainram: i have one more idea
[08:15] <cainram> I'm currently installing tracker to hunt down any references in any rogue xml files.
[08:15] <cainram> Thank you so much
[08:16] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type   gksudo nautilus  and browse to  /root/Desktop  is the icon listed there?
[08:16] <cainram> nope
[08:17] <legend2440> cainram: ok
[08:17] <cainram> thanks anyway...
[08:17] <cainram> shroom: you still there
[08:17] <B9> hello I have two files and i need to get them into my usr/bin but I cannot copy or move them there, how can i move two files from my download folder to my usr/bin?
[08:18] <cainram> b9 try opening a terminal and typing sudo nautilus
[08:18] <cainram> be careful!
[08:18] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | cainram
[08:19] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:19] <cainram> thanks for the advice, i didn't know
[08:20] <B9> cainram: i have done that, what do i do now? what did nautilus do?
[08:21] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to   rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:21] <cainram> b9 if you can't copy to a folder because of permissions issues then you need to assume administrative privileges. you can start a program as an administrator, or root, by typing gksudo or sudo at the prompt.
[08:22] <glick> hi
[08:22] <eraggo> hi glick
[08:22] <cainram> opening your file browser as root allows you to cut copy and paste with reckless abandon. For better or worse.
[08:22] <glick> excuse me, in compbiz, is there anyway i can have applications show up on the panel regardless which screen i am currently on, so if i click on it, the cube will automatically rotate to that side?
[08:22] <glick> right now, it only shows the applications for that side of the cube
[08:23] <iceman_32> what would I type @terminal to find out version of nvidia I am runnig .
[08:23] <B9> cainram: with the sudo nautilus i have been able to paste them where i wanted them, thanx
[08:25] <Wyzir> Dicsoseg testverek
[08:25] <glick> does anyone know how to set that up?
[08:25] <glick> that functionality
[08:25] <glick> ?
[08:26] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:26] <mans28far> ?
[08:26] <Wyzir> automatix2 does not work with jaunty seagull shit?
[08:29] <ZachK18> what up
[08:29] <Poul|Raider> Need a bit help creating ssh config file for the following connection ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955 user@bohr.gbar.dtu.dk
[08:30] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:30] <L1nUX1z3R> what's the ubuntu learning channel called?
[08:32] <vigo> Thank you.
[08:33] <fhfhs> !ru
[08:33] <kwork> !ee
[08:33] <whit2spring> !
[08:34] <Reactor> whit2spring: ?
[08:34] <whit2spring> nothing
[08:34] <Reactor> whit2spring: ok ;)
[08:44] <Myrtti> !hi
[08:47] <onats> hi, i'm having issues with my scanner, i can't get it to work using xsane
[08:48] <onats> the error message when i start xsane image scanner is:
[08:48] <Myrtti> onats: please use pastebin
[08:48] <Myrtti> !pastebin | onats
[08:48] <onats> Failed to open device 'v4l:/dev/video0', Invalid argument
[08:48] <Myrtti> onats: it's detecting your webcam
[08:48] <matt098> hello  how is every one today ????
[08:48] <onats> its a one liner, so i dont think I need to use pastebin
[08:49] <onats> Myrtti, my scanner is built in to a network printer. how do i make it use that?
[08:50] <Myrtti> if it's connected to yours only via network, then you can't really, unless it shares the scanner to the network as well
[08:50] <matt098> i have a problem my new installation if Ubuntu Janty i dont have sound sofar i think that im missing a library file called "lib32asound2-plugins"
[08:50] <xxex> having some problems with grub.. now i can boot only in windows, is there a way to repair it using live cd?
[08:51] <onats> i was actually able to make this work before
[08:51] <onats> but for some reason, after updates, it now fails
[08:52] <matt098> is there anyone that can help me with a sound issue on ubuntu janty?
[08:54] <matt098> ~~ Is there anyone that can give me a hand with the sound issues that im havingafter installing ubuntu ?????
[08:55] <v0lZy> hello people
[08:55] <v0lZy> i need som ehelp
[08:55] <matt098> hi
[08:55] <v0lZy> for some reason i cant use color codes in the terminal
[08:56] <v0lZy> if i do echo -e something
[08:56] <v0lZy> it echos like
[08:56] <matt098> srry i cant help u im still a new at ubuntu
[08:56] <matt098> hay did u have a sound issue when u installed janty?
[08:56] <strange> hey guys is there a terminal command to search in a directory for files with another extension than the 3 i specify?
[08:56] <thrope> hello - can anyone recommend/point me to a a usb wireless key that will definitely work out of the box with recent ubuntu? dont have time to research and had lots of trouble in the past - its for a friend I just set up with ubuntu so I want it to work smooth. (in the UK)
[08:56] <v0lZy> 3 i speficy?
[08:57] <thrope> in the past I even researched carefully - but got screwed anyway becuase they had changed the chipset without changing the model number
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | thrope
[08:57] <jpds> strange: find . -name .extension
[08:57] <strange> ".mp3 .jpg .m3u"
[08:57] <strange> if its not one of those it should return
[08:57] <jpds> strange: find . -name .mp3 -name .jpg -name .m3u
[08:57] <v0lZy> u can use find
[08:57] <v0lZy> or locate
[08:57] <matt098> hay guys can ne one help me ?
[08:58] <v0lZy> matt: i havent installed jaunty
[08:58] <thrope> ActionParsnip1: yeah - I can spend an hour going through those lists, and cross referencing the supported chipset to usb cards I can find online, but I was hoping someone here might have one they use and can could point me to to save me the time
[08:58] <matt098> np
[08:58] <kd8JHC> !ask | matt098
[08:58] <v0lZy> thrope: usb wirless dongle?
[08:58] <v0lZy> thrope: or usb ethernet?
[08:58] <thrope> v0lZy: yep - usb wireless
[08:58] <matt098> who here has installed ubuntu 9.04
[08:58] <thrope> v0lZy: in the UK - if anyone can point me to any one online that I can buy and it will work that would be great
[08:58] <v0lZy> hm....
[08:59] <zaggynl> thrope: AWUS036H
[08:59] <v0lZy> have a look at... sec
[08:59] <thrope> perhaps its impossible - I have to admit I have never seen one working with linux
[08:59] <zaggynl> tad expensive and not too new but works out of the box
[08:59] <strange> jpds and v0lZy what i want is to find the files that DONT match those 3 extensions
[08:59] <Myrtti> thrope: a-link WL54USB
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: chipsets are easy to find what is good. Try to get Intel based ones or old atheros work great :D
[08:59] <Myrtti> thrope: has worked since dapper or so
[08:59] <thrope> zaggynl: hi thanks - it is too expensive though (more than the computer
[08:59] <v0lZy> damnit, its some no name brand
[08:59] <zaggynl> whoa, more expensive than the pc eh
[09:00] <v0lZy> strange: man find
[09:00] <thrope> ActionParsnip1: the trouble is working out which chipset the usb has - ive been burned in the past receving a different chipset to what was on the website even though the model nuber hadnt changed
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: the chips used in usb wifi can vary from country to country so you are riight to mention UK. I can suggest you checl out http://www.efficientpc.co.uk (York). They may be able to steer you right
[09:00] <thrope> Myrtti: can't find the a link in the UK
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: most use garbage broadcom cos they are cheap
[09:01] <Myrtti> thrope: anyway, for reference: http://www.a-link.com/uk/WL54USB.html?id=BRyGuhJj
[09:01] <matt098> hay guys has ne one here had nany issues with sound drivers on janty ?
[09:01] <kc> hi
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: zero
[09:01] <EricFisher> Hi, if i want ask a question about apt-get? which channel is appropriate? Thanks.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: why'd you ask
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> EricFisher: here, ask away
[09:01] <kc> anyone have a good setup for home servr?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | kc
[09:01] <v0lZy> kc as in?
[09:02] <coz_> kc,  hold on I think I have a few links for that
[09:02] <kc> i installed ubuntu 8.04
[09:02] <v0lZy> i have 8.04
[09:02] <kc> i installed all the applications
[09:02] <v0lZy> as home and as production servers
[09:02] <kc> but i can't make the samba run correctly
[09:02] <coz_> kc,  here is one  http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn_an_old_Computer_into_a_web_server/
[09:02] <v0lZy> ah
[09:02] <v0lZy> ill help you
[09:03] <coz_> kc,  but the web admin is now 1.480
[09:03] <enav> holaaaa
[09:03] <coz_> kc,  so just change those numbers for the wget
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> kc: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> kc: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[09:04] <EricFisher> ActionParsnip1, after I use apt-get to install a deb package, where can i find the source package in my machine?
[09:04] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: this is a fresh install of ubuntu from the cd  and ive done all of the updates and i have no sound i think im missing a library called    lib32asound2-plugins
[09:04] <hellotello> hi all
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> kc: then run: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf and add something like this: http://pastebin.com/f6f9dcdd5   The bottom bit is all you need to define a share, obviously change the user names asyou wish
[09:05] <hellotello> i have downloaded a 7 gb iso file (a game), how can i burn this iso on 2 dvds?
[09:05] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: all i see is the 64 bit version and this is a 32 bit o version of ubuntu
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> kc: i share the entire ~ on my file server to be used on all systems
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> EricFisher: i dont use source, tr asking the channel
[09:06] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: this is want i was following to try and fix my sound issue but no luck     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> kc: once editted, save the file (ctrl+x, press y, press enter)
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: i have no idea. Ask the channel instead
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kc: then run: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and you have a share :D
[09:07] <qwqwqqwqw> i try to chroot direectory and i get "chroot: cannot change root directory to edit: No such file or directory", what to do
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kc: you can also ssh in, edit the file with nano, restart the service and *poof* another share
[09:07] <EricFisher> too many people here, who knows how to find the source package after install the deb?
[09:07] <qwqwqqwqw> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[09:08] <AlHafoudh> hi
[09:09] <AlHafoudh> is it possible to moount Netware NSS volumes under Ubuntu?
[09:09] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, you'll get that if there is no /<dir you chroot to>/bin/bash
[09:09] <MrSchmo> anyone know what is cause my totem player to play video sluggishly? it wasnt like this until i row my to ff3.0
[09:09] <matt098> hay guys i have a sound issue with my new instillation of Ubuntu Janty ive followed this guild to try and fix it but as of yot no luck " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 ".  i think im missing the library called " lib32asound2-plugins " any help would be much appreciated.
[09:10] <petravera> Question: Whenever I connect online without a browser, I notice that my firewall is constantly being pinged by proxybots. I am wondering, since I am on a dynamic connection if there is a file in Ubuntu which gives away IP location, or if this is some sort of exploit?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: http://ceitl.zanestate.edu/blog/archives/2005/04/how-to-mount-novell-shares-in-ubuntu/
[09:10] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: it exists, i try to chroot /mnt and exists, i am running from live CD, try to repair grub
[09:11] <MrSchmo> i ran totem player in terminal and msg"/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
[09:11] <MrSchmo>   import sha
[09:11] <MrSchmo> " what does it mean?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> MrSchmo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad0.10/+bug/420071
[09:12] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: i mean physical disks, not network shares
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: i found that via websearching, let me have another go
[09:13] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, That is odd, maybe you really dont have bash in there? Have you tried /bin/sh?
[09:13] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: i googled 15 hours yesterday :( i need someone who just had that experience
[09:13] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: how do i try /bin/sh
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: could try a different search engine
[09:14] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, chroot /mnt /bin/sh
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> !info ncpfs
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: ^
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> 2mb, wow thats pretty chunkified
[09:15] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: doesent wotk, and both exists in /bin, bash and sh
[09:15] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yes, but it is for network mounting, no?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1354   I wouldnt know, readthe guide. It may clarify
[09:15] <matt098> info! lib32asound2-plugins
[09:16] <zeroXten> anyone managed to get opendx working properly on intrepid (am64)?
[09:16] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yeah, its over network
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> !info lib32asound2-plugins
[09:16] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, /mnt/bin/bash or /mnt/bin/sh has to exist.
[09:16] <younder> why won't opera display email?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: oh so you mean the local disks in a system?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> younder: bad config
[09:16] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: they do
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> find asound2
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> !find asound2
[09:17] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yees :)
[09:17] <younder> ActionParsnip1:  obviously, but it is a ubuntu version
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> younder: its the same app, just coded for linux
[09:17] <younder> ActionParsnip1: evolution manages
[09:17] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: i am doing this: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide  commands on the bottom
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: what file system does it use?
[09:18] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: but cant do step 4 because of that
[09:18] <younder> ActionParsnip1: I know, I used to be a developer at Opera
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> younder: cool
[09:18] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: keyword: NSS, Netware 386
[09:19] <younder> ActionParsnip1: Probably why I have some qualms asking support
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: i think if you install the network servers but target local disks it may just be silly enough to work
[09:19] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: how do you mean
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: well the guide is talking about network shares over a network. rather than target remote shares, point the mount commands (or fstab) to the local partitions. It may just work
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> younder: what provider do you use?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> younder: for email
[09:21] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, I find it odd that its not working for you. Other things that can give you hassles is there are permission errors, or you're using a Live CD that is 32bit when your system is 64bit (or vice versa)--but those would give different errors than you've posted
[09:21] <younder> ActionParsnip1: standard POP3
[09:22] <hogan_9> i have a usb device which is automatically detected and mounted (connected through usb hub in monitor), if i switch the monitor off the hub looses power, however, when i want to reconnect the usb device it is not detected. can i reset usb modules somehome?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> younder: what is the name of the provider please. I may be able to find a guide
[09:22] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: maybe  thats it, i am having 32bit cd and 64bit system
[09:22] <younder> ActionParsnip1: telenor
[09:23] <hogan_9> *todate i have to restart the computer for the usb device to be recognised again ... :( which is not satisfactory
[09:23] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, try to run /mnt/bin/bash directly
[09:23] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: bash: /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash: cannot execute binary file
[09:24] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, but yeah, you'll definately need the same Live CD as your system. It MIGHT work if your Live CD was 64-bit and your system is 32-bit... but I've never tried it.
[09:24] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, yeah, thats your problem then.
[09:24] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: ook, will be back if something wont work, tnx
[09:24] <younder> ActionParsnip1: pop.online.no
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> younder: pop3: pop.online.no smtp: smtp.online.no
[09:25] <SharpRain> hands
[09:25] <younder> ActionParsnip1: yes, it is set up so. It reads the email, but it never shows up in my email client
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> younder: i found this but its probably stuff you already know: http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/operaM2/setupEmailAccount.cwd
[09:26] <younder> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[09:27] <jpic> hi, i created a ubuntu liveUsb but did not allocate enough space for the system (i decided to install eclipse, 600M), what manual should i refer to?
[09:27] <jpic> (or system configuratio GUI if any)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> younder: if you have folks at opera support you stil lkeep in contact, you can give them a call.
[09:30] <younder> ActionParsnip1: my thoughts exactly
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> its not what you know, its who you know :)
[09:31] <pescrich> I have Xinerama with two monitors. How can I have a "static desktop" on one, and the normal desktop (multidesktop) on the other? Is this possible?
[09:33] <allan8904> hi can i ask about problems on here?
[09:33] <prince_jammys> allan8904: yes.
[09:34] <kd8JHC> !ask | allan8904
[09:34] <jpic> nobody?
[09:34] <allan8904> I booted up my computer and everything was normal, then about after 2 minutes all the applications that i launched's text has been replaced by random "------ - - - -- - ---  --" everwhere so i cant read the buttons or menus or anything. i tried deleting the .kde folder and it still does the same thing after reboot. Any ideas?
[09:35] <jpic> i guess i'll mount -o loop /cdrom/usr /usr then
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: you can boot to live cd to resize partitions if you have space
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: or plug in another usb storage and symlink the folder after copying the data across
[09:36] <jpic> i don't have a cd reader
[09:36] <jpic> actually symlinks won't work on vfat
[09:36]  * jpic just tested
[09:36] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: then you need some form of bootable system to resize the partitions
[09:36] <jpic> can't i allocate more space for the squashfs? either on the fly either by booting ro single?
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> hi there, how I can kill gdm? I run /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and i just keeps coming back?
[09:37] <prince_jammys> GobiTheGoblin: are you using sudo?
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> i <- it
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: not sure, ive not played with those
[09:37] <GobiTheGoblin> prince_jammys: yep
[09:37] <prince_jammys> that's annoying.
[09:38] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, try init 3
[09:38] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: will try, ty
[09:38] <jpic> ActionParsnip1: thanks for answering, i need to find a safe guide because that's the only os i have (dead hdd)
[09:38] <jpic> (and no cdrom reader)
[09:38] <PLN> Hello every one
[09:38] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, can't guarantee it'll work but its worth the shot
[09:38] <manuscle> Hey everyone
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: just make sure your data is archived and you can play away
[09:39] <PLN> I am new user on liunx os
[09:39] <jpic> ActionParsnip1: data is safe, but the OS itself is not
[09:39] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: it is :D
[09:39] <jpic> all i have is that usb key which i didn't set up with enough space for installs
[09:39] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, it worked? ok
[09:39] <PLN> how i can oracle database on ubuntu
[09:40] <manuscle> have a problem with mounting folder
[09:40] <K7522> manuscle you'll need to be a bit more descriptive. ;)
[09:41] <manuscle> lol, i am currently writing my problem, but english is not my native language! ;-)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: then you could borrow a friends PC to duplicate the USB device so you have a backup of that too :)
[09:41] <hughworm> Morning all. I could use help with getting video driver for a new installation.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> PLN: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/install/xe-on-kubuntu.html
[09:42] <PLN> any oracle developer here
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> PLN: oracle have an ubuntu repo
[09:42] <K7522> hughworm, did you check System > Preferences > Hardware Drivers first?
[09:42] <prince_jammys> !oracle | PLN
[09:42] <zamba> i'm using debootstrap to install a system.. is it possible to get that to use an apt cacher?
[09:43] <manuscle> so, i'va written in my fstab this line :  /var/www    /mnt/sdc/www none bind, /mnt/sdc/www is on a partition with 200Go fre space, but when i mount this, /mnt/sdc/www is limited to only 6Go!
[09:43] <kales> ciao
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: if you are simply mapping one folder to another you dont need fstab
[09:43] <GobiTheGoblin> hatake_kakashi: Havent tried yet, need to solve one more thing before I can try
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> GobiTheGoblin, ahh ok
[09:44] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: sudo ln -s /mnt/sdc/www /var/www
[09:44] <hughworm> K7522 I guess you mean System > Admin > Hardware Drivers? List is empty. I have a S3  VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[09:44] <manuscle> ActionParsnip1: But with symbolic link, i can't acces by FTP
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: ah, weird
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> manuscle: system should just see it as a folder
[09:45] <K7522> manuscle, that is odd
[09:45] <hatake_kakashi> manuscle, try mounting it using bind option
[09:45] <manuscle> i did :  /var/www    /mnt/sdc/www none bind
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> hatake_kakashi: see above ;)
[09:46] <tnoy> reverse it, /mnt/sdc/www /var/www
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> ActionParsnip1, yeah kinda double-checked it again lol
[09:46] <RaaG> Want Virtual box on ubuntu
[09:46] <RaaG> ?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[09:47] <RaaG> Sun ?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> RaaG: yes
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> !virtualbox | RaaG
[09:47] <RaaG> ok brother
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> (waits for thanks....)
[09:48] <K7522> ActionParsnip1, thank you <3
[09:48] <manuscle> tnoy: lol, that's so symply!
[09:48] <manuscle> tnoy: thanks it's work!
[09:48] <K7522> hughworm, I'm tryin to figure that one out.
[09:49] <tnoy> haha
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: some dont. its really frustrating
[09:49] <tnoy> glad I could help :)
[09:49] <K7522> ActionParsnip1,  I'm thanking you for him :)
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: cool, thanks
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> K7522: despite price, manners always seem to be forgotten
[09:50] <hughworm> K7522: I think I need a driver called prosavage_smbus but I don't know where or how to get it. Googling didn't help much!
[09:50] <manuscle> tnoy: sometime i can help too but it's so rare ...
[09:51] <tnoy> manuscle, we help where we can
[09:51] <K7522> hughworm, you're going to need to edit your xorg.conf to your video card.
[09:51] <miranda82> is there anyway i can sort my processes by bandwith usage?
[09:52] <manuscle> tnoy: I agree ^-^
[09:53] <jpic> hi, where does apt download packages please?
[09:53] <hughworm> K7522: ok...?
[09:53] <miranda82> jpds, /var/cache/apt/
[09:53] <miranda82> jpic, sorry,. that was for you
[09:54] <jpic> thanks miranda82!
[09:54] <prince_jammys> /var/cache/apt/archives, probably. ''man apt'', FILES section.
[09:54] <Ytxx> I have created a new user on my ubuntu server ... but I am unable to login to it
[09:54] <prince_jammys> s/apt/apt-get/
[09:54] <Ytxx> I typed three times the password and I get this
[09:54] <Ytxx> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: log back in as your first user and run: sudo passwd <new users name here>
[09:54] <hughworm> K7522: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is in front of me
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: if you dont set a password, the account is there but disabled
[09:55] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I have changed it ... and I tryed to login still doesnt work
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: same error?
[09:56] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: sudo adduser testuser
[09:56] <Ytxx> and typed the password twice
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> ok cool
[09:56] <Ytxx> and I get that error
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: are you trying to connect via ssh as the new user?
[09:57] <Ytxx> yes
[09:57] <prince_jammys> hah
[09:57] <prince_jammys> ESP required here.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: ok read /var/log/syslog
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: do you use key pairs for ssh security or just passwords?
[09:58] <allan8904> how can i clear my fontcache?
[09:59] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I use key pair for my root user
[09:59] <kales> ciao
[09:59] <steveny> hello all~
[09:59] <Ytxx> where do I locate the /var/log/syslog
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: o the ssh server
[09:59] <Ytxx> yes
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: /var/log/syslog is the absolute location of the file
[10:00] <kales> ma come funziona.......
[10:00] <kales> c6?
[10:00] <prince_jammys> !it | kales
[10:01] <orc> tv
[10:01] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: sudo: /var/log/syslog: command not found
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: less /var/log/syslog
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: its a log file, not a command
[10:01] <Ytxx> what do you mean less ?
[10:02] <allan8904> less is so you can view whats in the file
[10:02] <pythagoras> hey wsup all
[10:02] <konza> Hi, I am unable to telnet using port 80.......... pls help
[10:02] <Ytxx> do i run it on the server ?
[10:02] <achilles> hello, I added a new SATA disk 1TB to my ubuntu, I'm trying to create a format using parted and fdisk, I create the start cyl 1 but what is the last cyl to occupy 1TB ?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, +ITB ?
[10:03] <man_whore> .
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> or better yet, hit enter
[10:03] <tnoy> konza, how are you trying to telnet using port 80?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: yes to read the log
[10:04] <konza> telnet www.google.com 80
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> achilles: fdisk default is the whole disk so you can just press enter for the end
[10:04] <konza> tnoy, telnet www.google.com 80
[10:04] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1:Sep 15 03:45:26 Cby kernel: [908379.776121] iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT$
[10:05] <tnoy> konza, That is working for me, so your syntax is correct. What is the error you're getting?
[10:05] <Ytxx> does it mean anything to yo ..  I suspect is the iptable.
[10:05] <konza> tnoy, <TITLE>ERROR: The requested URL could not be retrieved</TITLE>
[10:05] <achilles> ActionParsnip1, hatake_kakashi http://pastebin.org/18025
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: thats your firewall dropping conenction
[10:06] <mar> any ideas: http://ikelk.lt/pastes/ew5-_W!nuk
[10:06] <tnoy> konza, If you get something like that, the telnet command is working, you need to pass a valid command to the server once you connect
[10:06] <konza> tnoy, Its connection but I am not getting the http headers
[10:06] <prince_jammys> GET / HTTP/1.1 <enter><enter>
[10:06] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, you've made it incorrectly, its supposed to be /dev/sda not /dev/sda3
[10:06] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: is it related to the iptable ?
[10:07] <konza> tnoy, telnet is working, but ^
[10:07] <ficoos> Hi, I get this error on evert dpkg operation "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/<pkgNameHere> (--unpack)"
[10:07] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, why ? the new disk is sda3
[10:07] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: doubt it, sounds like you are hitting the server, just getting denied access
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, are there any other scsi/sata/usb storage devices plugged in on the same computer?
[10:07] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, I'm afraid to format the currently installed one
[10:08] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes there is
[10:08] <konza> tnoy, i can get the headers if i use localhost....
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, the reason is this:　Disk /dev/sda3: 5033 MB, 5033871360 bytes
[10:08] <Maleko> hey guys..how do we remove all non hidden files?
[10:08] <konza> tnoy, I am using a proxy server, will that affect it?
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> note the size of it
[10:08] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.org/18026
[10:09] <tnoy> The proxy server might have something to do with it if it expects different commands
[10:09] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, oh maybe its the swap!
[10:09] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: http://gist.github.com/187195
[10:09] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes it's the swap sorry!
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, would've been better if you did fdisk -l instead
[10:10] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, http://pastebin.org/18028
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: you can use the cursor to read up and down with less
[10:10] <ficoos> and I get "unable to open files list file for package `libtext-wrapi18n-perl': Input/output error"
[10:11] <bchan> .
[10:11] <ficoos> can't find anything on google
[10:11] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: well I just need to fix this ... do you think its possible to diagnose the iptable ?
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, that's the wrong disk, note the size of the disk, 160GB not 1TB and so you've created a virtual partition or whatever it is inside /dev/sda3 which is swap
[10:12] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, how can I know what dev name the new disk took ?
[10:12] <konza> anyone knows what is osql?
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, like I said before `fdisk -l'
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: if you ssh over as your user that works. Try: ssh testuser@localhost
[10:12] <achilles> hatake_kakashi, yes I got it /dev/sdb
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: see if that is good
[10:12] <achilles> thank you!
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> achilles, nw
[10:12] <ScreaminIke> does anyone here know of a supported AM radio tuner?
[10:13] <ScreaminIke> (pci or usb)
[10:13] <allan8904> is there a portage-type package manager that can be used on ubuntu?
[10:13] <ScreaminIke> apt-get
[10:14] <tnoy> ScreaminIke, I dont know if its supported or not, but Hauppauge devices have been rather linux-friendly in the past
[10:14] <ScreaminIke> apt-get can build from source, too, if you like
[10:14] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1:
[10:15] <Ytxx> its asking http://gist.github.com/187195 should I say yes ?
[10:15] <ScreaminIke> apt-get is the package manager. it's like portage, but, by default, it grabs debian binaries
[10:15] <slobad23> is there a free linux equivelant to macromedia captivate?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: yes
[10:16] <allan8904> yeah but the dependiecies are all downloaded as binary, i'm talking about full source compilation
[10:16] <jrib> allan8904: /why/?
[10:16] <vigo> ScreaminIke: AM radio support? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012&highlight=radio
[10:16] <ScreaminIke> allan8904, you can put in params to build from source
[10:17] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: after the third attmt i get this
[10:17] <Ytxx> Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
[10:17] <allan8904> jrib: just so its optimised. I know 5% doesnt sound like much, however when you're running it on a 1.73ghz lapy with an intel915gma card it makes a small difference
[10:17] <vigo> ScreaminIke: There is a point there about checking and or unchecking Analog/Digital.
[10:17] <pythagoras> is ubuntu the best??
[10:18] <vigo> !best
[10:18] <pythagoras> is it?
[10:18] <jrib> allan8904: just your machine...  Anyway there's apt-build but imo it's a complete waste of time
[10:18] <vigo> I like it.
[10:18] <prince_jammys> it's the best distro of the ones that's named after south african words.
[10:18] <kitallis> okay
[10:18] <pythagoras> what bout ubuntu ultimate is that ok?
[10:18] <allan8904> pythagoras: nah gentoos the best distro
[10:18] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: should I add "AllowUsers testuser" to ssh_config ?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: then the account is most likely bad, I'd check group membership
[10:18] <pythagoras> gentoos?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: makes sense
[10:19] <allan8904> *gentoo
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> !ultimate | pythagoras
[10:19] <jrib> pythagoras: try both and use what is best for you
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: there is no best
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: best is an opinion so is not concrete
[10:19] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: what do you make sense ?
[10:19] <tnoy> gentoo is great until and emerge world f's up your system
[10:19] <vigo> Thank you ActionParsnip1.
[10:19] <kitallis> I've got these three separate blocks of unallocated space, can't i somehow merge them in to 'free' space?
[10:19] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[10:20] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1:True but gentoo is bleeding edge, optimised too the teeth however it just takes alot of hand configuring and time to install things...something i dont have time for at the moment
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: to add the new user to the allowed users in sshd_config or whatever you said
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: doesnt make it better
[10:20] <pythagoras> so what are u using allan?
[10:20] <ubuntu> any one know of a good ip blocker?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i personally think puppy is the best, but thats my opinion
[10:20] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what makes puppy better then ubuntu?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: there is no universal best anything
[10:21] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: i only installed puppy on a powerpc machine because i really had no other option
[10:21] <pythagoras> hmm everyone wreckon ubantu the distro around..
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: its light and suits my personal needs perfectly, it also runs on ,y ancient systems
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> s/y/my
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: so to me it is the best, millions would agree, millions would disagree
[10:21] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what GUI do you use?
[10:21] <zebaztian> what app can i use to check hash sums of an ubuntu iso?
[10:21] <kitallis> can anyone help me with that ^^
[10:21] <pythagoras> word on the street has it ubantu the go...
[10:21] <erUSUL> !md5sum | zebaztian
[10:22] <kitallis> I've got these three separate blocks of unallocated space, can't i somehow merge them in to 'free' space?
[10:22] <kitallis> ^^
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: openbox
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: my more powerful systems run lxde
[10:22] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: can i ask why?
[10:22] <kaddy> hi
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: lightness
[10:22] <zebaztian> can i download with apt whilst ¡'m downloaading something through wget -c?
[10:22] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: whats wrong with something like KDE
[10:22] <erUSUL> kitallis: partitions ? use gparted...
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sure you can
[10:22] <pythagoras> anyone here run windows
[10:22] <erUSUL> zebaztian: yes
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: fat slow, and kde is really flaky
[10:23] <vigo> kitallis: Back it up and run a disk utility, gparted is good.
[10:23] <slobad23> is camstudio the best piece of software for desktop videos?
[10:23] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, are you on gui?
[10:23] <erUSUL> pythagoras: in ##windows
[10:23] <kaddy> kde is flaky?
[10:23] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: see i think KDE is nice, shiney and full of features
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: indeed
[10:23] <kaddy> pffft
[10:23] <prince_jammys> optimize + kde == funny combination.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i dont like shiny. i want the job done
[10:23] <pythagoras> i like the sphere in ubantu
[10:23] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  which DE?
[10:23] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: whats teh point of doing it on an eyesore though?
[10:23] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: I have managed to login .
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> kaddy: is in my experience
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: its not, looks fine here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: lxde
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: wtg :D
[10:24] <pythagoras> the sphere desktop is cool
[10:24] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  is that ubuntu?
[10:24] <kitallis> erUSUL, can't those are 3 seperate blocks, if i make a primary partition outta any one of them, then the other too would be left unallocated cause of the <4 limit
[10:24] <Ytxx> But there's something different from the root user . .
[10:24] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: The thing is that the second you run any kde app all teh libs are loaded in teh background
[10:24] <kaddy> Ubuntu is good, but its for Noobs
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: no, lxde is a de. you can run it on ubuntu if you wish: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/images/4/4c/LXDE_desktop_full.png
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !lxde | zebaztian
[10:24] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: so you may as well use the GUI too
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> !info lxde
[10:24] <kaddy> lxde is da bomb!
[10:24] <ScreaminIke> kaddy, try to stay on topic
[10:24] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, can i run lxde on hardy?
[10:24] <erUSUL> kitallis: can you move/copy some paritions to make room ?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sure can
[10:25] <zaggynl> LXDE is quite nice
[10:25] <kaddy> i am staying on topic
[10:25] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, is it getable from the repos?
[10:25] <zaggynl> full desktop in ~60MB
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> zebaztian: sudo apt-get install lxde
[10:25] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip1: is there a way of listing the users ?
[10:25] <zaggynl> as opposed to the default 200+MB gnome ubuntu desktop
[10:25] <kaddy> Don't you ubuntu guys get sick of the same old dead inovation Gnome desktop though? seriously?
[10:25] <kitallis> erUSUL, i did, i had 2 before, now I have 3 :/
[10:25] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: But you dont get like 95% of the features
[10:25] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1,  is it lighter than xfce?
[10:25] <kaddy> and gnome 3/shell is utter crap
[10:25] <jrib> !ot | kaddy
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> Ytxx: type: users    at command line
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: what features?
[10:26] <kaddy> only noob niggas use ubuntu or gnome
[10:26] <kitallis> lol
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> allan8904: i can install any app from any DE and use it in a light environment
[10:26] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: can you have desktop compozing on it?
[10:26] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip1, can i compiz eyecandy on lxde?
[10:26] <zebaztian> haha
[10:26] <ScreaminIke> ActionParsnip1, can ubotu fix kaddy?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: sure, you can use lxde + compiz if you really want
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: like I said. i dont like ll that stuff
[10:27] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: the new user 'tesuser' doesnt apear on the list only root and admin
[10:27] <allan8904> ActionParsnip1: what specs are your comp?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: which one?
[10:27] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: the "good one"
[10:27] <kaddy> what would you know parsnip! afterall... your just a White Fake carrot!
[10:28] <allan8904> oooohhhh burn lols
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: fileserver = gentoo + 64mb edo ram + p100 mmx
[10:28] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is lxde lighter than xfce and as manipulable as kde?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: router = bsd + 500Mhz P3 + 256Mb SDRAM
[10:28] <kitallis> erUSUL, the problem is that the unallocated space is on different sectors of the disk, so there isn't just one block i can partition into
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: desktop = AM2 Semp 3000 1.6Ghz + 2Gb DDR2 + 250Gb SATA2
[10:29] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: ah no wonder you use that then
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: i like it. i can run full kde + compz rubbish on my desktop. i choose not to
[10:29] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: do you know why the new user is not listed ?
[10:29] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: yeah but it would be slow on it
[10:29] <erUSUL> kitallis: so you are stuck. you ca not make new paritions nor move existing ones ?
[10:29] <ScreaminIke> i'm currently using 400MHz and 128MB ram. lololol
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: lxde has similar min requirements but actually uses less than xfce in reality
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: it performs well
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: on my lappy is slightly sluggish, however on my desktop its sweet as
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: i can play penumbra and urban terror very well
[10:30] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, will my ATI radeon graphics 3200 work well with it?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: as wel as doom3 via wine
[10:30] <Kroline> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:30] <Kroline> hellooooo
[10:30] <pythagoras> later all
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: sure will :)
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: why not just use windows for gaming...
[10:30] <ScreaminIke> kitallis, you have to unmount a partition to edit it
[10:30] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: i'm all for linux however i'd like the best tool for teh job
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: you seem to be mixing "features" with "eye candy"
[10:31] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what's lxde based on?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: windows costs and linux is free, linux plays the games I like toplay so why should i waste my money
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: gtk
[10:31] <kitallis> ScreaminIke, obviously :/
[10:31] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: i got windows for "free" from uni, we all were supplied with a copy and serial for windows xP, vista business and windows 7
[10:32] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, i had a horrible time with the ati driver, then i installed the newest one specific to this chipset and it has slowed down my laptop
[10:32] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: so price wasnt a factor for me
[10:32] <kitallis> erUSUL, well I can make only ONE partition from any one of those unallocated space
[10:32] <ScreaminIke> i have a wintendows install on my 'good' box. it's a hassle to take down my ssh/apache/gnump3d and have to reboot every time i want services i've come to depend upon
[10:32] <kitallis> but i want to merge them and create a single one
[10:32] <kitallis> guess i cant
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: well i'm a bit older than uni, so i dont get given much. I do get free PC systems that folks dont want though
[10:32] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, so no matter what libraries, gnome and kde apps should run faster considering its low resource consumption?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: yes as the DE itself uses less to run
[10:33] <MrSchmo> anyone have this program qt4 setting in menu: system>Preference  and what does it do?
[10:33] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: probs why you dont like the eyecandy :p
[10:33] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: anyway nice discussing it with you
[10:33] <erUSUL> kitallis: if you can not copy/move other partitions so the space is continous in the disk you can not.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: no, even if a had a blade system with 200 CPUs and 2Tb RAM, I'd still use LXDE
[10:34] <erUSUL> MrSchmo: change the appearance settings of qt4 apps
[10:35] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is it buggy?
[10:35] <zebaztian> does it have releasesees parallel to ubuntu?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not at all
[10:35] <Ytxx> ActionParsnip: users dosnt list 'testuser' is this the expected behaviour ?
[10:35] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, is it as versatile? as in can i set things the way i want them like on kde ?
[10:36] <zebaztian> i remember that was one feature i never liked about xfce much
[10:36] <zebaztian> i felt i couldnt bend it and shape it my way
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not so much, the gui is quite constrained but you can set window decorators and background images and icons nice
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Ytxx: not sure man
[10:38] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what's its navigator?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: navigator?
[10:38] <zebaztian> the...nto window manager
[10:38] <zebaztian> hmmm
[10:38] <zebaztian> like dolphin or nautilus
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: oh, file manager
[10:38] <alus> nginx released a security fix yesterday, at version 0.6.39. ubuntu base 9.04 still lists 0.6.35 in apt
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: you can run either of those in LXDE
[10:38] <alus> when will ubuntu get the security update?
[10:39] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip,  what's the default though?
[10:39] <zebaztian> it looks very Windows-like on those screenshots
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: Thunar is default I think
[10:40] <MenZa> alus: You may be better off asking in #ubuntu-motu
[10:40] <MenZa> alus: Alternatively, create a ticket in !Launchpad
[10:40] <alus> what is "motu"?
[10:40] <rvb> hello, i bought a new PC and installed Kubuntu Jaunty 9.04 i can hear sound but my mic isnt working
[10:40] <rvb> who can i make my mic work>
[10:40] <rvb> ?
[10:41] <prince_jammys> !motu |alus
[10:41] <MenZa> !sound | rvb
[10:41] <MenZa> rvb: Check those links out for your mic problems.
[10:41] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, can i run ubuntu with lxde alone? as in no gnome, no kde
[10:41] <MenZa> zebaztian: Sure.
[10:41] <rvb> thanks.. i'll do that and post back
[10:42] <zebaztian> MenZa, with all the same repos and apps though?
[10:42] <MenZa> zebaztian: Certainly. The repositories are independent of whatever DE/WM you use.
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: sure if you want but you will not be able to use the apps that use those libs
[10:42] <MenZa> zebaztian: So are the apps. Some will require gtk libraries to load, but they'll run.
[10:43] <lylith> i need alot of help from anyone who knows, my problem is this, i have a pc that had vista pre-installed from the store, i hated vista, so i installed ubuntu 9.4 to the machine, and completely removed the vista partition.. well, that was a while ago, but now i got a new machine for ubuntu wich im on now, and i want xp on my old vista machine, well, when i try to use my xp disk it loads all the setup files and when it gets to the part "st
[10:43] <lylith> arting windows" (on the very first blue screen where it loads drivers for setup) it goes to a blue screen and says a problem has been detected and my computer needs to be shut down.. aka its the blue screen of doom, i cant even get to setup... ok so, i completely removed my ubuntu partition using the live cd, then went back out and tried again, got the bsod again... i really need xp on the machine, and google didnt help at all, anyone h
[10:43] <lylith> ere know anything that could help?
[10:43] <FloodBot2> lylith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:43] <MenZa> lylith: Sounds like a problem with the XP cd, not Ubuntu.
[10:43] <jrib> lylith: ##windows for help with that
[10:43] <MenZa> lylith: Alternatively your hardware setup. Try ##windows instead.
[10:43] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, how do you mean i won't be able to use apps that use those libs? explain please
[10:44] <lylith> i thought so... but it cant be, the xp cd is the same i've always used x.x
[10:44] <zebaztian> ha i just saw this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[10:44] <MenZa> zebaztian: Most applications use either Qt (KDE libraries) or GTK+ (GNOME libraries). If you simply launch your desktop with lxde, those libraries will still be available for the applications to use. If you remove the libraries, however, you may run into some issues.
[10:45] <brijith1> is there any one to Help me in translating labels in galde  ......?????
[10:45] <zebaztian> so it would be better to have both kde and gnome as a log option? won't that slow down the system in the long run though?
[10:45] <zebaztian> MenZa, ActionParsnip
[10:45] <qianjigui> can you see more about it detail?
[10:46] <qianjigui> brijith1:can you see more about it detail?
[10:46] <MenZa> zebaztian: I suggest just leaving GNOME on it. If you need Qt libs for anything, they'll download.
[10:46] <brijith1> is there any one to help me in translating labels in glade
[10:46] <konza> anyone knows anything about mysql injection? pls reply
[10:46] <zebaztian> MenZa, so I can run any kde app, both on the gui and the shell, from lxde?
[10:47] <bazhang> konza, cracking?
[10:47] <prince_jammys> konza: /j #mysql
[10:47] <brijith1> qianjigui: I have a python application which uses glade interface
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: if an app needs libs then it will need it installing so you may have to have them installed so you may need to have gnome installed
[10:47] <konza> bazhang, nope........ i wanna learn hacking.. and not cracking..
[10:48] <prince_jammys> wrong channel for either.
[10:48] <bazhang> konza, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[10:48] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, what about kde?
[10:48] <brijith1> qianjigui: what I want to do is to translate all the messages in the window
[10:48] <konza> bazhang, is there any other channel for that?
[10:48] <qianjigui> to which language?
[10:49] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, MenZa regardless though it will still perform better/faster than gnome or kde right?
[10:49] <bazhang> konza, no idea  /msg alis list *term_you_want*
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: if you want to run kde apps ten they will need some kde libs, so they will need to be installed. apt-get will manage this
[10:50] <arquebus> konza- you may find people who will discuss that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <qianjigui> the better irc tool for ubuntu is?
[10:51] <allan8904> pidgin lol
[10:51] <ScreaminIke> irssi
[10:51] <prince_jammys> !irc
[10:51] <prince_jammys> err, no.
[10:51] <konza> bazhang, can u pls explain that command what u told?
[10:51] <qianjigui> thx
[10:51] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, so what you're saying is that if i say want to use konqueror, sudo apt-get konqueror in a lxde only paradigm wiill take care of installing the qt libs on its own?
[10:51] <bazhang> konza, let's discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <brijith1> Help mmeeee
[10:52] <prince_jammys> zebaztian: yes, apt will take care of installing/informing you of required dependencies.
[10:53] <zebaztian> great, so pretty much install gnome and then lxde
[10:53] <zebaztian> great
[10:53] <brijith1> using Gettext  translation of labels in glade is not working please help me.
[10:53] <prince_jammys> the package 'ubuntu-desktop' contains nothing other than a list of dependencies, which is why installing causes all the apps/dependencies to be installed.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: konqueror will install qt libs as it needs
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: there is nothing stopping you running konqueror in lxde
[10:54] <zebaztian> so, leave gnome alone install lxde and get the kde apps you need pretty much?
[10:54] <allan8904> ActionParsnip: lol looks like i gave you a bit of work explaining desktop managers and stuff
[10:55] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, i cant believe you lied to me
[10:55] <zebaztian> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCMan_File_Manager
[10:56] <Dougal> my computer is accepting ssh connections over the local (home) network, but not ftp
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> allan8904: ?
[10:56] <Dougal> I'm pretty new to setting up SSH or FTP, And i thought i'd installed enough stuff to be a backend for both of them, but apparantly not
[10:57] <Dougal> what do I need on the desktop upstairs before it'll operate as an ftp server?
[10:57] <indus> hi
[10:58] <hateball> Dougal: Is there any reason why you need FTP? sftp is a whole lot more secure and easy to use (imo)
[10:59] <Dougal> hateball: sftp would be fine too
[10:59] <hateball> !info ssh | Dougal
[10:59] <hateball> Dougal: that should be all you need to get going
[11:00] <Dougal> hateball: so if i can ssh into my computer, i should be able to sftp in as well? even if i can't ftp in?
[11:00] <hateball> Dougal: Yes
[11:00] <Dougal> hah, it worked.
[11:00] <Dougal> I feel kind of silly now...
[11:00] <hateball> Dougal: sftp and ftp/s are not the same :)
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: this is, btw, the support channel
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: not #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:01] <Myrtti> konza: you can either try from the command line, in a terminal, with passwd
[11:02] <Myrtti> konza: or in system - administration - users and groups
[11:02] <Dougal> yes, i think i knew that. I just thought of sftp as the more advanced option and assumed it'd be *harder* to get working as a result. Anyways, thanks!
[11:02] <zebaztian> ActionParsnip, have you used ede?
[11:02] <zebaztian> *EDE
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> zebaztian: not used it
[11:03] <konza> Myrtti,  i want to change the password which i gave during nickname registration
[11:03] <Myrtti> konza: where, in freenode or in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <Myrtti> konza: /msg nickserv help
[11:04] <gharz> guys, i'm using mac mini powerpc... and using radeon 9200... in the Display dialog... i can't find 1440x900 resolution... how do i add this?
[11:06] <gharz>  guys, how do i add 1440x900 resolution for my monitor? i'm using radeon 9200 rev 01... the maximum resolution is only 1024 x 768
[11:06] <indus> gharz: can u type glxinfo | grep render in a terminal and paste output
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> gharz: run: sudo lshw -C display
[11:06] <indus> or that
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you can now use the product line to websearch for a driver
[11:07] <error404notfound> i am trying to upgrade intrepid to jaunty and i get: http://pastebin.com/m706008aa i also tried remove the sndfile package, no use
[11:09] <gharz> indus: direct rendering: Yes OpenGl renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[11:09] <indus> error404notfound: can u do a sudo apt-get update first
[11:09] <indus> gharz: hmm
[11:09] <error404notfound> indus, fixed it :P, i did a dpkg -r sndfile-packagename and its fixed
[11:10] <indus> k
[11:10] <m1r> gharz: i am searching for same but ati hd 4350
[11:10] <gharz> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271395/  this is the result
[11:10] <indus> gharz: do u have an ati tool to configure display?
[11:10] <indus> !ati
[11:11] <gharz> indus: ati tool? i am not sure... this is a fresh install of the ubuntu
[11:11] <konza> can not join a channel.......... requires keyword... why is it telling like that
[11:11] <indus> gharz: in system>administration do u see anything ATI?
[11:12] <gharz> indus: no... i don't see any ATI
[11:13] <m1r> gharz: check under Programs > others > ati catalyst ?
[11:14] <Dougal> um... back again. Sftp is working great for me for single files, but i can't seem to transfer a directory of them.
[11:14] <Dougal> I tried " put DirectoryName "
[11:14] <gharz> m1r: i don't see any ati catalyst
[11:14] <Dougal> and i got a response "skipping non-regular file "DirectoryName"
[11:15] <indus> gharz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[11:15] <jesus1> When editing startup applications in the GUI, which file changes? Or even, which are the files determining, for any wm/de what applications should start? Furthermore, are they run as root?
[11:15] <indus> gharz: are you using the open source driver?
[11:15] <gharz> under System->Preference->Display... i tried "Detect Monitors" but it doesn't show 1440x900
[11:15] <gharz> indus: i'm using the default driver from jaunty... by the way... i'm using mac mini powerpc
[11:15] <indus> gharz: go to system>administration > hardware drivers and check?
[11:16] <Dougal> Can anyone advise on getting sftp to transfer whole directories instead of individual files?
[11:16] <gharz> indus: only Broadcom Wireless 4312 driver is showing
[11:16] <indus> gharz: ati drivers probably provide better performance and resolutions * citation needed*
[11:16] <jesus1> Anyone
[11:16] <jesus1> ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you need to install ati drivers
[11:16] <emile> dougal: mount the sftp in nautilus and just drag and drop
[11:16] <gharz> indus: how about reconfiguring my xserver-xorg
[11:16] <gharz> ?
[11:17] <m1r> i have installed  ATI drivers manualy over Envyng and cant even load synaptic now to remove them :)
[11:17] <indus> gharz: hmm that doesnt seem to work with ubuntu these days ,all automatic
[11:17] <indus> gharz: u can edit your xorg file
[11:17] <indus> gharz: see that link i gave you
[11:17] <dunplayplay> how to edit xorg.conf
[11:17] <emile> dougal: if i remember well (s)ftp on cli doesnt support put for dir (you should mkdir them and use mput for multiple files)
[11:18] <gharz> indus: ok... let me check on that
[11:18] <dunplayplay> indus can indicate the link again
[11:18] <indus> gharz: also i suggest check the forums under hardwre and laptops
[11:18] <indus> gharz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Video
[11:18] <indus> gharz: wait dont see that link it sucks
[11:18] <gharz> indus: ok
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !envy | m1r
[11:18] <indus> gharz: not updated good, i search for another
[11:18] <jesus1> When editing startup applications in the GUI, which file changes? Or even, which are the files determining, for any wm/de what applications should start? Furthermore, are they run as root?
[11:18] <dunplayplay> indus: can indicate the link for xorg edit?
[11:19] <indus> dunplayplay: searching
[11:19] <Wistful> I just downloaded the linux-source with sudo apt-get linux-source and in the ReadMe page it says : "Linux is a clone of the operating system Unix, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds with assistance from a loosely-knit team of hackers across the Net." ??
[11:19] <Wistful> What is that?
[11:19] <StupidWeasel> A description of what linux is =P
[11:19] <Wistful> written from scratch by Linus Torvalds ? they refer to the kernel or the whole OS ?
[11:19] <m1r> ActionParsnip: Package envyng-gtk is not installed, so not removed
[11:19] <indus> Wistful: ya its true as far as fundamental stuff
[11:20] <StupidWeasel> The OS is GNU
[11:20] <indus> Wistful: or the way the kernel is written
[11:20] <Wistful> they wrote it wrong!
[11:20] <StupidWeasel> Or rather, started out as gnu. The kernel is linux == linus trovalds et al.
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> m1r: try: dpkg -l | grep envy
[11:20] <indus> Wistful: processes, hardware handling etc, cant explain in words its  a tech topic
[11:20] <m1r> ActionParsnip: it seems it installed envyng-qt version (i am using gnome)
[11:21] <Dougal> emile: thanks. I wouldn't know how to mount in Nautilus, but i'll take a look at nput
[11:21] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> m1r: i'd uninstall it. it sucks and isnt supported
[11:21] <m1r> ActionParsnip: u mean not to use envyng at all ?
[11:21] <indus> gharz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968048&highlight=ati+resolutions
[11:21] <indus> gharz: maybe good for you
[11:21] <gharz> indus: how about doing a dpgk-reconfigure xserve-xorg? will this help?
[11:22] <gharz> indus: ok let me check that link
[11:22] <Nicd-> Wistful: what do you mean by that?
[11:22] <indus> gharz: well, those commands dont do anything these days, worked in dapper drake time
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> m1r: no its not supported
[11:22] <Vinceman> the command get * should work in FTP, why doesn't it? ftp can't open
[11:22] <gharz> indus: ic
[11:22] <m1r> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, but what would you recomend then ?
[11:23] <indus> gharz: they changed a lot of things since hardy so not as easy as before now
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> m1r: what video card do you have?
[11:23] <Wistful> Nicd-: "Linux is a clone of the operating system Unix, written from scratch by Linus Torvalds , with assistance bla bla" How can this be true? I don't understand? Linus just wrote the kernel and how it interacts with the other parts of the OS..
[11:23] <indus> gharz: i used to fix my issues with taht command before :)
[11:23] <m1r> ActionParsnip: had nvidia 7300 and changed to ATI  HD 4350
[11:23] <gharz> indus: thanks... so let me just follow that instruction from your latest link which you have provided
[11:23] <indus> gharz: that ati card in link is old , so only follow some basic xorg editing tips, or try for similar threads
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !ati | m1r
[11:24] <indus> m1r: choose your stuff http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=64202772
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: i'd have stuck with the nvidia personally
[11:25] <m1r> ActionParsnip: problem is my card dont get detected under hardware drivers which would allow me install of driver (using ubuntu 8.04.3 64bit
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> m1r: reboot, job done
[11:26] <m1r> ActionParsnip: i have ATI inside now :/ 4350
[11:26] <indus> m1r: you have ati or nvidia?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> m1r: then you need the ati driver from www.ati.com
[11:26] <Nicd-> Wistful: maybe it just refers to the kernel
[11:27] <m1r> ActionParsnip: thanks, will check it out
[11:27] <Wistful> Nicd- : It doens't ! It's written in the sense of an entire OS.. and it's plain wrong
[11:28] <indus> Wistful: its not wrong
[11:28] <indus> Wistful: probably a minnix clone but whatever
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Wistful: doesnt change the price of bread does it?
[11:29] <juarez> can anyone pls help me
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !ask | juarez
[11:30] <Slart> Wistful: check the kernel.org main page.. under the heading "What is Linux?".. they have the same sentence there.. I don't think the ubuntu developers wrote that text themselves
[11:30] <indus> !offtopic | Wistful
[11:31] <Wistful> Ok.. Next time I'll just skip the area where it says : What is Linux? because is plain wrong and it doesn't make any sense..
[11:31] <juarez> ok sorry,  well im trying to transfer some files from my laptop running BackTrack to  my ps running XP.
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> is backtrack suppoted here?
[11:32] <pvh_sa|wrk> hey all... how do i fix my file associations on ubuntu (9.04) - i've got .odt files associated with an old (no longer installed) version of openoffice, would like to fix that.
[11:32] <sena--> Wistful: i think you are right, i think referrign to OS should be fairer to say GNU/Linux, because Stallman did equally good job and deservers credit
[11:32] <loloid-sensei> bonjour
[11:32] <jrib> !defaultapp | pvh_sa|wrk
[11:32] <juarez> its based on Ubuntu 8.10
[11:33] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> pvh_sa|wrk: right click file -> open with, then browse to the app you want to use in /usr/bin
[11:33] <pvh_sa|wrk> thanks ActionParsnip and jrib
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> juarez: doesnt matter, if its not an official release its not supported in the official channel
[11:33] <eni23> hello at all. exists a script for cleaning folders from windows-stuff ? (eg. desktop.ini & thumbs.db & albumart, upper-case-file-extensions..)
[11:33] <Slart> !derivatives | juarez
[11:33] <Slart> juarez: I think backtrack falls into that category
[11:34] <juarez> ok, tks anyway
[11:34] <ZzIppo_> Acer Aspire One 531 / Eee 900 /AO D250 / manually partition the disk. partitioning menu, but any changes I make aren't actually applied.!??
[11:34] <ZzIppo_> "No root file system is defined" message ,, back 2 previos screen,, can"t install,, ,, Alpha 5 September 3rd is ok,!? daily live is fubar,,cant install!?  ,, why what!?
[11:35] <Slart> ZzIppo_: talking about karmic koala aka 9.10? go ask in #ubuntu+1 in that case
[11:35] <gharz> indus: i can't still find the solution :(
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> juarez: install an official release and we can help
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> juarez: derivitives amy have weirdsettings and apps which we dont know about
[11:37] <indus> gharz: did u try edit xorg file?
[11:37] <indus> gharz: this is a common problem so iam sure you will find a thread on forums, iam nvidia user so not sure how to help
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | ZzIppo
[11:38] <gharz> indus: i'll edit xorg manually by adding "1440 x 900" on the Screen section?
[11:38] <indus> gharz: also have crt monitor
[11:38] <juarez> ok, but the whole aim is to rescue  some files from a damaged HDD and if i run 9.04 on live cd, it wont let me acces my HD
[11:38] <indus> gharz: yes i have read ppl do that
[11:38] <sena--> juarez: you may setup ftp server and client and exchange files this way for backtrack support go to #remote-exploit channel
[11:38] <indus> gharz: type xrandr on terminal
[11:38] <gharz> indus: ok... let me try it.
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> juarez: you can use foremost and testdisk in live 9.04
[11:38] <juarez> tks mate
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> juarez: you should have a data backup too if the data is important
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> juarez: no backup == data is disposable
[11:39] <jumbers> What would cause mail to root to get backed up in the mail queue and never sent properly? (Running postfix)
[11:39] <gharz> indus: this is the result of xrandr   http://paste.ubuntu.com/271406/
[11:40] <indus> gharz: maybe thats the problem
[11:40] <gharz> indus: what's the problem?
[11:43] <indus> gharz: NICE linke https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[11:43] <indus> gharz: be patient when reading,
[11:44] <indus> gharz: this should be of help .good luck :)
[11:44] <gharz> thanks
[11:44] <gharz> brb
[11:46] <WishingMaster> i want to get latest updates(nightly builds) from GNOME,can anyone give me the apt line of the repository, for example  'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main'. for GNOME
[11:48] <Slart> WishingMaster: they have a deb repository? not just git or svn?
[11:48] <gharz> indus: perfect!!!! i just changed the virtual value to 1440 900 and it worked!!!!!
[11:48] <gharz> thanks!
[11:49] <WishingMaster> Slart, so you mean like kde sends nightly updates GNOME doesnt ?
[11:49] <Stoy> I am looking for a program that will allow me to rotate a video 90 degrees, I have looked at PiTiVi and OpenShot, but no luck yet, anyone got any ideas?
[11:50] <Slart> WishingMaster: I have no idea what KDE does
[11:50] <WishingMaster> Slart, okay can you give me the apt line for GNOME?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> WishingMaster: just because they are both DEs doesnt mean they both do nighly builds
[11:51] <WishingMaster> ActionParsnip, got that dude...
[11:52] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[11:54] <FrEaKmAn_> hi, how could I check which ports are used in ubuntu server?
[11:54] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: netstat might be useful.. try looking for listening ports
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: netstat -a
[11:57] <FrEaKmAn_> and I-Node is what? port?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: the number after the colon is the port
[11:58] <gharz> guys, how do i install flash in powerpc? i have already executed apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras but flash wasn't installed. please help.
[11:58] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, has anyone encountered probs after the last updates of today?
[11:58] <gharz> !flash
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> gharz: you need gnash or swfdec
[11:59] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: I think an i-node is something in a file system.. netstat displays a *lot* of information.. the trick is to trim it down to something you can use
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: netstat -b looks good
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[11:59] <smn_> hi people. I got a folder /opt and i wnat to be able to create fodler and files under that directory. The /opt directory has root as owner at the moment. How can i give myslef accses?
[12:00] <Slart> FrEaKmAn_: the man page describes a lot of switches to filter the content.. you can use grep as well
[12:00] <gharz> ActionParsnip: which is better amongst the two? gnash of swfdec?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> smn_: use sudo mkdir to create the folder, then run: sudo chown :$USER <the folder you created>
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> gharz: ive no experience of either. i dont use ppc
[12:01] <gharz> ok thanks
[12:01] <FrEaKmAn_> Slart, ActionParsnip - thanks. The problem was that apache didnt want to start and I needed to know if its running. Checking the logs solved my problem
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you will then give your users group ownership, you can then chmos the group permissions but the owner will be root ;)
[12:01] <gharz> ActionParsnip: when i ran apt-get install gnash... my system says gnash is already the newest version
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> FrEaKmAn_: you can use: ps -ef | grep <something>     to find out too
[12:02] <presidente> hi
[12:02] <xurxo> When I tell terminal: sudo apt-get install subversion, I get : E couldn`t find package suversion. Any Ideas? Thanks!
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> gharz: i think you need gnash-mozillaplugin or someting. Try:   apt-cache search gnash | grep moz
[12:02] <obiwan__> hi please, i need to know how to look built modules in my kernel. I have to do this:   Validate you don't have loaded (or built into the kernel) the Linux community provided  driver for Broadcom hardware
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> !info subversion
[12:02] <Nicd-> xurxo: did you type suversion? :P
[12:02] <presidente> i have a problem with file avi, i use ubuntu 9.04 in an Asus a4000
[12:02] <Slart> xurxo: subversion.. not suversion
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: sudo apt-get install subversion
[12:03] <xurxo> no. suBversion
[12:03] <obiwan__> why ActionParsnip ?
[12:03] <smn_> actionparsnip: any way i can do that in gui?
[12:03] <obiwan__> i'm happy with sudo apt-get xd
[12:03] <presidente> can you help me?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: sorry crossed lines
[12:03] <obiwan__> hah ok ok ;:)
[12:03] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, has anyone encountered probs after the last updates of today?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> presidente: can you expand a little
[12:03] <xurxo> I did it right in the terminal. Also, I did the mirror test in the Software sources
[12:03] <obiwan__> alo presidente hah yeah explain
[12:04] <presidente> the file avi don't work with vlc
[12:04] <smn_> ActionParsnip owner: root, group: root
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> obiwan__: if you run: lsmod you can see all loaded modules
[12:04] <obiwan__> mmm strange avi should work :S
[12:04] <presidente> the screen is black
[12:04] <obiwan__> yeah action, but the message says: loaded + builtin
[12:04] <obiwan__> hi please, i need to know how to look built modules in my kernel. I have to do this:   Validate you don't have loaded (or built into the kernel) the Linux community provided  driver for Broadcom hardware
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> presidente: have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras as well as w32codecs or w64codecs
[12:05] <presidente> yes
[12:05] <Nicd-> I have a VNC problem (low resolution) when no monitor is connected, as describe here: http://www.nytsoi.net/files/vncproblem.html -- Can anyone look into it?
[12:05] <obiwan__> i don't know how to look the builtin modules
[12:05] <ubuntu> hey .. where can I find a tutorial to make a 5.1 home cinema to work all 6 channels ? because there are just 2 channels working right now :|
[12:05] <presidente> i did it
[12:05] <gharz> ActionParsnip: thanks!!! now flash is playing
[12:05] <presidente> i installed all codec (i think)
[12:06] <xurxo> My Computer Janitor wont work. I says: Essential package dash is missing. There may be problems with apt sources.list or Packages files may be missing? Suggestions? Thanks!
[12:06] <obiwan__> i think there's one option in aptget to seek for missing dependancies, but don't know which
[12:06] <obiwan__> presidente
[12:06] <presidente> yes
[12:07] <gharz> thanks guys for all the help!!! ubuntu rocks!!! thanks people.
[12:07] <ubuntu> hey .. where can I find a tutorial to make a 5.1 home cinema to work all 6 channels ? because there are just 2 channels working right now :|
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> gharz: awesome...oh, oh well
[12:08] <presidente> obiwan__ the dipendancies are ok
[12:09] <Slart> ubuntu: are you playing 5.1 sound to test it? I'm not sure if there is anything in the default install to "enhance" 2.0 sound to 5.1 but afaik it should play 5.1 sound through all the speakers if they are there
[12:10] <obiwan__> hm then i don't know :(
[12:10] <ubuntu> Slart, I can't make 5.1 work by default.. I set on 6 channels, but nothing.
[12:10] <ubuntu> in alsamixer
[12:10] <smn_> ActionParsnip im confused. how do i in gui give myself acess to this foler /opt ?
[12:10] <obiwan__> the only thing i can say is sudo apt-get purge package && sudo apt-get install package
[12:10] <Giddion> hi, ive booted from the live cd,  how do i find info like CPU type / speed, memory info and HDD info?
[12:11] <obiwan__> proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you can run your file browser using gksdo
[12:11] <obiwan__> /proc/cpuinfo
[12:11] <Giddion> just type that into terminal?
[12:11] <Slart> ubuntu: I don't have a surround sound setup for my desktop so I can't really test it myself.. you've searched the forums?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> smn_: i wouldnt give yourself ownership of /opot, use a subfolder instead
[12:12] <ubuntu> Slart, yes but I couldn't find anything for this kind of sound system.. it's on AC3 :|
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> smn_: /opt   sorry
[12:12] <smn_> ActionParsnip yeah thats fine. subfolderwise i mean.
[12:12] <Giddion> i get Permission Denied
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> smn_: sudo mkdir /opt/folder; sudo chown :$USER /opt/folder; sudo chmod g+rw /opt/folder
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> smn_: the folder will be owned by root but you will give your user full access with the chown/chmod commands
[12:14] <ubuntu> I found something but I need to reboot. brb. :)
[12:15] <presidente> nothing i don't found a solution
[12:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i just installed hardy, i need help, i can't get wicd and several others through sudo apt-get
[12:16] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: do i have to enable the jaunty repos?
[12:16] <Slart> !hardy
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ask te channel dude
[12:16] <presidente> but it's possible that is a problem with video driver?
[12:17] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i tried sudo aptitude install lxde and it didn't work either
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde hardy
[12:18] <tyfj> find -regex  '.+'       #why this find nothing?    thank you
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde intrepid
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: looks like its intrepid onwards, there may be a hardy ppa for it someplace
[12:18] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  i asked you if i could install it in hardy
[12:18] <zebastian> you said yes
[12:19] <Slart> tyfj: it does on my system
[12:19] <smn_> actionparsnip: http://pastebin.org/18045
[12:19] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  can i enable the jaunty repo on hardy to get wicd?
[12:19] <Slart> tyfj: you're not running it in an empty folder?
[12:19] <smn_> and i cant make folders
[12:19] <tyfj> no, I get lots file in the folder
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: there may be one, i dont use it
[12:20] <Slart> tyfj: can you pastebin the command line where you run it?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> smn_: ok thats great
[12:20] <tyfj> Slart: should I open a switch to use -regex  option?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> smn_: if you now run: ls -la /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT    you'll see the ownerships
[12:21] <Slart> tyfj: I don't understand.. "open a switch"?
[12:21] <FeasibilityStudy> anyone know how to overcome the apparmor bug that follows:
[12:21] <FeasibilityStudy> Use of uninitialized value $profile in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/share/perl5/Immunix/SubDomain.pm line 4401.
[12:21] <zebastian> i just edited the sources.list how do i upgrade it?
[12:22] <smn_> actionparsnip http://pastebin.org/18047
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> smn_: well you are root so you have access anyway, you shouldnt use root at all
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> sudo > smn_
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> !sudo > smn_
[12:24] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18048
[12:24] <tosmo> hi, after upgrading to 9.04/jaunty /etc/network/interfaces seems not to work anymore. there's a pre-up rule for my ppp connection, which isn't executed anymore. is /etc/network/interfaces deprecated for some reason?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> tosmo: interfaces supercedes all:)
[12:24] <tyfj> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271414/                any hints on how to use:  find -regex
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you ran the command as root, so $USER will turn into root and not your normal user
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> smn_: you shouldnt be using root and the account should not be enabled for secuity
[12:26] <smn_> argh. doing it again
[12:26] <Slart> tyfj: can you explain what you're trying to do?    running   "find -regex '.+'"   gives me lots and lots of files when I run it in my home folder
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> smn_: stay off root, youwill get less issues
[12:27] <smn_> i can make folders and files now
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> smn_: as user?
[12:27] <manoue> tosmo I apologize for ActionParsnip's ridiculous and useless answer. No /etc/network/interfaces is not deprecated
[12:27] <smn_> as user
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> smn_: cool :)
[12:27] <tyfj> Slart: it should do what you got,  but   "find -regex '.+' " give me nothing always, in any folders
[12:28] <manoue> tosmo are you sure your updated file is the same as the original?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> smn_: its not hugely secure, the owner is nobody, which is why you can access it
[12:29] <s12en7s120> whats up, i need a little help
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> smn_: as user run: sudo chown root:$USER /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT; sudo chmod g+rw /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> smn_: the folder will then have the owner of root but your normal user will have full access too
[12:30] <smn_> doing it
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !ask | s12en7s120
[12:31] <smn_> done and i can use the folder
[12:31] <smn_> thanks!
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: cool
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: if you run the ls -la again you can check the permissions
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> smn_: should be   root smn
[12:33] <smn_> ive did the command but /opt/lampp/htdocs checking permissions
[12:34] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18049
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> smn_: sudo chown -R root:$USER /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT; sudo chmod -R g+rw /opt/lampp/htdocs/ShogooT
[12:35] <ismailbhutta1> how to install php 6.0
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> smn_: then the permissions will be set recursively on all the files
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !php
[12:36] <ismailbhutta1> php 6.0 installation
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> ismailbhutta1: http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/08/howto-install-php6-in-ubuntu-debian.html
[12:37] <manoue> ismailbhutta1 you must forgive ActionParsnip, he is neither very bright, nor does he read questions properly
[12:37] <floris|celeron> yay, installed ubuntu 9 on a celeron 400 machine
[12:37] <afrikaX> why does my firewall block traffic thru my vpn connection? (1723 + pptp ports are wide open) but the firewall seems to care about the traffic inside the vpn?
[12:37] <manoue> ActionParsnip please actually read the questions. Thank you
[12:37] <bazhang> manoue, please stop that
[12:37] <floris|celeron> 256mb ram teehee
[12:37] <ismailbhutta1> manoue: hmmm seems he give right link
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> manoue: the link i gave tells how to install php6 on ubuntu does it not?
[12:37] <Abueleitor> hi, someone here know what frameworks its the best one for meddium- scale projects, thx (i tested zend)
[12:37] <Halitech> floris|celeron, what desktop did you install on that machine?
[12:37] <manoue> ActionParsnip do not address me until I ask you to. Thank you.
[12:37] <smn_> actiopnparsnip its done
[12:38] <ukev> hi, my gnome does start firefox on every login, how can I disable this?
[12:38] <bazhang> manoue, please stop
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> manoue: as long as you give me the same coutesy. thank you too
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !sessions
[12:38] <smn_> http://pastebin.org/18050
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[12:38] <floris|celeron> ubuntu desktop 9, 699mb.iso 32bit. on a 6,4 gb quantum fireball ata drive., 400 mhz celeron system, 256mb ram, wifi card, wpa2 connection, on a 30mbit internet docsis3 accuont , lol
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  it may of some how got saved to your default session. (thats a feature, where it rembers what you had open when you logged off)
[12:39] <SharpRain> Hmm
[12:39] <Halitech> floris|celeron, you actually installed gnome on it? wow, bet it just flies ~L~
[12:39] <ukev> Dr_Willis, yes I know about startup settings in gnome, but the point is: firefox is not inside the startup list and it is not inside the bashrc file..
[12:39] <floris|celeron> yep, gnome.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> floris|celeron: not a bad system
[12:39] <floris|celeron> flies, well ... hehe, it works.
[12:39] <manoue> !ot | ActionParsnip
[12:39] <jakes> tar: option requires an argument -- C whats that mean?
[12:39] <floris|celeron> man, i cn't blieve i did web design on this back in 98. :0
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> manoue: you should fire that at floris|celerontoo to mainain integrity
[12:40] <jakes> Anyone know what this means
[12:40] <jakes> tar: option requires an argument -- C
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> jakes: what command did you run to get it?
[12:40] <jakes> sudo tar xvzf z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C /
[12:40] <smn_> can you check the output actionparsnip? http://pastebin.org/18050
[12:41] <Dr_Willis>  ukev  check the startup applicatons perferences. OPTIONS tab.   perhaps. you could close all apps.. and tell it to 'save/rember' that way it rembers  that nothing was running I guess.
[12:41] <ukev> Dr_Willis, but you are right, I used the "remember session programes" feature and so firefox started every login but now i disabled this feature but firefox is still starting every time
[12:41] <Moz_> Hi. Im new to linux but would like to have a server running linux and asterisk. Im going to install ubuntu but would people recommend the server or desktop edition? Im thinking server as I can then use the server as my office server as well as asterisk box.
[12:42] <simplexio> Moz_: server if you can handle cmdline
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> smn_: looks great, you can now write their as your user
[12:42] <Halitech> Moz_, are you familiar with using the command line?
[12:42] <ukev> Dr_Willis, I tried that already, also I could't find a place in gconf where firerfox is mentioned to be started
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> smn_: can you also use http://pastebin.com  it doesnt have all that adware crap
[12:42] <simplexio> Moz_: dekstop eats RAM
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  theres also system settings --> Session manager - It has a check box to 'start with a empty session'
[12:42] <Moz_> Simplxio / Halitech - Im not confident using the command line yet. I plan on learning a lot more but at the moment dont have the experience.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> jakes: tar does use -C, maybe it needs to go before the file
[12:43] <Moz_> Simplxio / Halitech - al;though Im very confident with a windows command line.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  oh wait.. thats a kde app. :) i got both on this box.
[12:43] <floris> not sure what happened, lol, tried to copy/paste the image http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/693961/Sep%2015%2C%202009_2/DSCF0443.JPG and then xchat lcosed, hehe. anuway, that is the system
[12:43] <KoolD> hey how to install a wireless usb in ubuntu???can some one point me to a document?
[12:43] <Halitech> Moz_, you could still install the server version and then install ebox to do the configuration
[12:43] <Skarpz> I downloaded Mythbuntu on my system and now want it off, how do I do that?
[12:43] <Moz_> Halitech - ok thanks for the info.
[12:43] <Halitech> !ebox | Moz_
[12:43] <simplexio> Moz_: yeah. well basicly you do all conf into files. so you learn cli command and howto use nano quite fast, besides all howtos for server side are pretty much for cli
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: if you have it attatched and run: sudo lshw -C network     you can see what chip it uses and wesearch from that
[12:44] <Moz_> simplexio / Halitech: Thanks for the quick advice. I'll give server editiona try and see how I get on.
[12:44] <simplexio> Moz_: and like i said, if you run X + gnome (default ubuntu desktop) you use alot RAM for it
[12:45] <KoolD> ActionParsnip:thanks, i'll check it out
[12:45] <floris> well, i am glad this worked, lol, ubuntu for the win. now to find uot how to let the ubuntu 9 server edition to find the wireless connection and set a pass for it, etc, .. and auto connect, .. on ethernet it is not a problem, but doing wifi is a bit more tricky for me.
[12:45] <simplexio> Moz_: just learn to love bash, <TAB> extend commnds or give option out on cli, helps alot
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: if nothing comes up, use     lsusb   you can then search for the 8 character hex code
[12:45] <ukev> Dr_Willis, hm... any other idea? is there no documentation about where startup-hooks can be?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> ukev:  never noticed - really never had the problem.  Not got somthing in the Autostart directory?
[12:46] <KoolD> ActionParsnip:thanks, i got a interface,just had to enable it
[12:46] <uni4dfx> bluetooth isn't supposed to work in jaunty right? it can't receive files; when copying a file from obex it will freeze and then you can't unmount the device, etc
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: nice :)
[12:48] <ukev> Dr_Willis, no, the autostart dir is empty... I also tried to search with the gconf-editor the term "firefox" but there was no entry which had to do something with startup or autostart
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> ukev: you can symlink the .desktop entried from /usr/share/applications in ~/.config/autostart
[12:48] <Skarpz> Anyone know how to get Mythbuntu completely off?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> s/entried/entries
[12:50] <xeer> I am trying to use the 'net' table in iptables, it says "iptables v1.4.0 can't initialize iptables table 'net': table does not exist (do you need insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded"
[12:50] <xeer> I'm using intrepid 8.10
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  fire up the package manager and remove it.. but it installed a lot of dependencies. such as mysql and so forth. Getting all tose off ,may be a little hareder
[12:51] <Blizzerand> xeer : Have you updated your Ubuntu system
[12:51] <zxd_> Yes!
[12:51] <s12en7s120> hey, whats up
[12:51] <xeer> Blizzerand:  apt-get update?
[12:51] <zxd_> 9.04
[12:51] <s12en7s120> s
[12:51] <ukev> ActionParsnip, in .config/autostart are a few .desktop files, but now firefox related one
[12:51] <s12en7s120> does anyone know of any operating systems specificly made for window repair
[12:51] <s12en7s120> windows XP
[12:51] <s12en7s120> repair
[12:51] <s12en7s120> that are linux based
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> s12en7s120:  check out the 'system rescue livecd' and the gparted livecd
[12:52] <afrikaX> why does my firewall block traffic thru my vpn connection? (1723 + pptp ports are wide open) but the firewall seems to drop the traffic inside the vpn? when the firewall is off the vpn works. but as it connects the opened ports work but the firewall shaps the traffic inside, is it supposed to do that?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> s12en7s120:  and others at 'distrowatch' web site
[12:52] <s12en7s120> ohh shoot, lol
[12:52] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: What I want it to do is to stop stopping at startup to need to go into recovery mode to download packages. How can I do what you've said? I've tried just removing the desktop but it wasn't enough. Most everything is still there.
[12:53] <Blizzerand> xeer : Yup or just use up System --> Administration --> Software Update or something of that sort . Beware , there may be about 300 MB updates if you are updating for the first time
[12:53] <s12en7s120> would qtParted work as well from Knoppix or BT3?
[12:53] <alfredo> re
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  could be gdm is auto logging in, and starting it up as the default session. Ive not used muthbuntu in ages.
[12:53] <smn_> thanks actionparsnip ill use pastebin.com from now on.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Skarpz:  the 'mythbuntu-desktop' package you mean? thats just a meta-package that pulled in everything else it needed. It does nothing to remove that.
[12:54] <Skarpz> ah
[12:54] <xeer> Blizzerand:  I have a server install so the upgrade is only 62mb
[12:55] <shos> Helli, does anybody know of a solution to the slow usb transfer rate problem on ubuntu jaunty 9.04 amd64 ?
[12:55] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: yeah instead of Ubuntu or Kubuntu it says Mythbuntu when loading
[12:55] <Nicd-> how would I tell my system to start vncserver (Xvnc) instead of X?
[12:55] <Nicd-> when booting
[12:55] <Blizzerand> xeer : k , go ahead . that should solve the prob
[12:56] <s12en7s120> upgrade your USB
[12:56] <shos> what do you mean
[12:57] <zxd_> Where are you?
[12:57] <Slart> shos: you mean "slowing down until it's just a trickle where I could copy the bytes by hand and still be faster"-problem?
[12:58] <shos> Slart: yes that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1150108&page=24
[12:58] <ukev> are there no other possibilities for programs to autostart?
[12:58] <s12en7s120> do you have the kernal update?
[12:58] <zxd_> 好厉害
[12:58] <Slart> shos: not really sure why but I have no problems using my usb hard drive.. but transferring a 4GB file to a usb stick just dies after 500MB or so
[12:58] <jrib> ukev: possibilities other than ...?
[12:58] <Pici> !zh | zxd_
[12:59] <s12en7s120> did you get the kernel update?
[12:59] <Nicd-> how would I tell my Ubuntu to start vncserver (Xvnc) instead of X when booting up?
[12:59] <Pici> !who
[12:59] <s12en7s120> the Ubuntu
[12:59] <Ulises> !who
[12:59] <s12en7s120> shoes--
[12:59] <bazhang> s12en7s120, which one do you mean
[12:59] <zxd_> 谢谢！Thank you! 3Q!
[12:59] <s12en7s120> kernel 2.6.28.15
[12:59] <shos> Slart: sometimes its ok but sometmimes its really slow like 1.5 mb sec
[13:00] <ukev> jrib, the .config/autostart/ directory, .bashrc, gnome settings -> session/startup settings.... My firefox is starting every login but in none of these lists
[13:00] <Slart> shos: I don't have any good solutions for it... I just avoid using usb sticks and large files =/ I'm guessing one of these days someone will look up while reading the kernel source code and say "Hey, what's that comma doing there" or something similar
[13:00] <s12en7s120> or if thats not the one then usually kernel 2.6.28.14 will fix the problem
[13:00] <s12en7s120> im talking to you shoes
[13:00] <jrib> ukev: does it happen to a new user?
[13:00] <ukev> jrib, no it does not
[13:00] <Slart> shos: oh.. 1.5 MB/s.. mine just goes down to well..1 byte/s or so
[13:00] <Blizzerand> xeer : How did it go . Sorry but I had to reboot the PC.
[13:01] <jrib> ukev: grep -R firefox ~/.*
[13:01] <xeer> Blizzerand:  almost done downloading packages
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  if you want a 'hidden' vnc session  thats not the current desktop. You can install/run some of the 'vncserver' servers such as tightvnc.
[13:01] <ukev> jrib, it happens only after I set gnome to save the session on logout but now I deactivated the feature but firefox and rhythmbox are still starting automatically
[13:02] <tawan> is Opera 10 working well on Ubuntu? I have it on Debian Sid and the menus don't work well.
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> tawan:  it worked here - last i tried it.
[13:02] <pythagoras> hwy wasup all
[13:02] <indus> hi
[13:02] <jrib> ukev: tried turning the feature on, turning off those programs, logging out, logging in, disabling the feature?
[13:02] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: I want it to start the vncserver in place of the normal desktop. The computer is to be used via VNC only.
[13:03] <ukev> jrib, yes, I tried that
[13:03] <jrib> ukev: try the grep then
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  theres 2 ways to do vnc.. Share/show the current desktop OR have a hidden vnc session thats NOT visiable from the local machine.
[13:03] <amnesia> hi, a quick question how come my user is able to remove this folder?
[13:03] <amnesia> amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ ls -lA | grep bla drwx------ 2 root    root          4096 2009-09-15 13:55 bla amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ rm -r bla rm: descend into write-protected directory `bla'? yes
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  if you want you could set up gnome to auto-login and start  the gnome vnc feature.
[13:03] <Skarpz> rebooting
[13:04] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: I tried vino but it has problems when running headless
[13:04] <Slart> amnesia: it really deletes it if you answer yes?
[13:04] <amnesia> yup
[13:04] <amnesia> that's what I dont get..
[13:04] <Blizzerand> tawan : to make opera 10 work you have to do some tweak arounds . Try #opra
[13:04] <ukev> jrib, the grep need to much time because there are to much data in my home-dirt
[13:04] <Halitech> Nicd-, vnc isn't a desktop environment so you can't use it as replacement for gnome/kde/etc
[13:04] <jrib> amnesia: and ls -ld    ?
[13:04] <Blizzerand> tawan : I meant #opera
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  sound  like you want to use a 'normal' vncserver then. There are guides on making vnc auto spawn as needed when you connect via a vnc client also.
[13:04] <AndyA> Hi! How do I direct an exe to an existing .so file.... I've tried with ldconfig with no success...
[13:04] <Newbie> Hello i'm in the process of enabling wireless to work with my NX6125 laptop, All i've found so far is information about the broadcom 4318 driver, but from there i really havn't had much luck, could anyone possibly assist me?
[13:04] <jrib> ukev: really?  In .*?  I doubt it but start with ~/.g* then...
[13:04] <amnesia> jrib: drwxr-xr-x 2 amnesia amnesia 4096 2009-09-15 14:02 .
[13:04] <tawan> Blizzerand, specific to Debian Sid? Ok will look ;)
[13:04] <WB2Colorado>  /query chanserv info #opra
[13:04] <jrib> amnesia: there you go...
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  they can spawn via inetd I recall. With the right setup
[13:05] <ukev> jrib, yes really, because of .virtualbox .wine and a lot more.. :)... I will try it
[13:05] <jrib> ukev: good point
[13:05] <pythagoras> is ubantu really good??
[13:05] <duffydack> Nicd-, I`d probably use NX if I wanted to connect and run a desktop session as needed.
[13:05] <jrib> pythagoras: try it for yourself and see if it is really good for *you*
[13:05] <amnesia> jrib: others can only execute aka view the contents right?
[13:05] <Nicd-> Halitech, Dr_Willis, isn't Xvnc supposed to work as an X server for the applications? shouldn't it be possible for it to replace X then?
[13:05] <jrib> amnesia: -ENOCONTEXT
[13:06] <pythagoras> what do you use jrib
[13:06] <Blizzerand> pythagoras : Yep or you could try any other linux distributions too
[13:06] <duffydack> Nicd-, is ssh -X forwarding not an option ?
[13:06] <Slart> pythagoras: nope.. but ubuntu is ok
[13:06] <Halitech> Nicd-, no, it acts as a forwarder for a currently running x server
[13:06] <amnesia> -enocontext?
[13:06] <jrib> pythagoras: I use ubuntu and arch...
[13:06] <pythagoras> what is similar to windows...
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you are not understanding how vnc works. Since you are 'headless' you dont want to use Xvnc or X11vnc. You want a normal 'vncserver'
[13:06] <jrib> amnesia: content of what?
[13:06] <amnesia> jrib: the folder (drwxr-xr-x 2 amnesia amnesia 4096 2009-09-15 14:02 .)
[13:07] <KULA_> hi :)
[13:07] <jrib> amnesia: yeah, others can 'cd' into and list contents
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you could  ssh in, start 'vncserver' then connect via any vnc client..   its that easy. Once ya get vnc going.
[13:07] <Ulises> Hello
[13:07] <Nicd-> duffydack: can I connect to an existing session with that?
[13:07] <chris|> pythagoras, it runs on x86 hardware
[13:07] <Newbie> /tmp/bcm4318.tar-3.gz could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences. - I receive this error when trying to download the "bcm4318.tar.gz" file to open with Archive Manager from the ubuntuforums, why is that?
[13:07] <Blizzerand> pythagoras : If you are so inclined to vista try vixta linux
[13:07] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271354/
[13:07] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: can I connect to an existing, running session with that?
[13:07] <amnesia> jrib: yup but how come a folder owned by root and has drwx------ can be removed by every single other user?
[13:07] <jrib> pythagoras: don't come to linux looking for windows, you will not be happy.  Think of linux as something new, different and possibly better
[13:08] <ukev> jrib, ok .p* finished and prints a few entrys but nothing with autostart, only: (gconf:) apps/browser, url-handlers: http https about unknown; avant window navigator entrys; gnome-settings: gedit; apps/lifearea; end the rest are settings of epiphany (count: 5)
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  depends on how you launch.  an existing running VNC SESSIOn.. yes...
[13:08] <jrib> amnesia: it can't
[13:08] <pythagoras> sure
[13:08] <Blizzerand> Ulises : Hello there
[13:08] <Nicd-> Halitech: this says otherwise: http://www.realvnc.com/products/free/4.1/man/Xvnc.html
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  headless means you wont have an X session going. Just vnc sessions.
[13:08] <SharpRain> How do I know if I have GTK on my system?
[13:08] <pythagoras> i download ubantu ultimate is that good
[13:08] <jrib> amnesia: pastebin commands that show what you just said
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Newbie: cd /tmp; sudo tar zxvf bcm4318.tar-3.gz
[13:08] <jrib> SharpRain: you do
[13:08] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: ok, that's an error in my part then, I thought headless just meant running without a monitor
[13:08] <SharpRain> Okay, thanks
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> SharpRain: dpkg -l | grep -i gtk
[13:08] <jrib> pythagoras: no, get regular ubuntu from ubuntu.com
[13:08] <Ulises> I can start up my ubuntu Hardy Heron
[13:08] <Ulises> can't!!!
[13:08] <Ulises> Hello Blizzerand
[13:09] <jrib> SharpRain: why do you need it?
[13:09] <Blizzerand> !ask| Ulises
[13:09] <bazhang> pythagoras, no need for it; and its not supported here-->get the original www.ubuntu.com
[13:09] <pythagoras> ohh i though ultimate was better ..more features
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  and with no monitor you cant see a local X session...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Ulises: can you expand what is happening please
[13:09] <amnesia> jrib: that's the point...
[13:09] <amnesia> jrib: amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ rm -r bla rm: descend into write-protected directory `bla'? yes amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$ ls -lA | grep bla amnesia@amnesia-laptop:~/Desktop$
[13:09] <SharpRain> Emacs 22 says I will get a better experience if I use emacs-22-gtk one only if I have gtk on my system
[13:09] <Ulises> Blizzerand, did you watch the ling i've sent at pastebin?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  so theres no need to start up X or gdm. Peronally i found 'headless' caused to many problems.
[13:09] <SharpRain> I chose emacs-22 gtk
[13:09] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: basically I just want something like Microsoft's Remote Desktop: computer boots, logs in automatically, starts programs. I connect later and see that desktop with the programs running and can control them
[13:10] <Slart> amnesia: do you get the same result if you create the folder somewhere else? say in /opt or something
[13:10] <jrib> amnesia: that's not "any other user".  That's amnesia.  amnesia has write privileges to the parent directory, so amnesia can delete contents
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  you can set up vncserver to do that.
[13:10] <Blizzerand> Ulises : What were uyou trying to do to begin with
[13:10] <pythagoras> jrib thx
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> Nicd-:  and you couls start the proper vncserver from rc.local
[13:10] <Slart> amnesia: I'm starting to think it's something along the lines of "you own everything in your home folder, no matter what"
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Nicd-: why not just use web interfaces to what you need. a full blown desktop is often unnecessary
[13:10] <jrib> Slart: it's not
[13:11] <SharpRain> This is a popular channel
[13:11] <Slart> jrib: oh? ahh.. nevermind. I just saw your last message.. I get it now
[13:11] <KendrickSF> Wow...I haven't used irc since the early 1990's...This is a trip down memory lane! Greetings Ubuntu gurus!
[13:12] <jakes> how do you install a .run file?
[13:12] <grawity> KendrickSF: Be prepared to meet a huge amount of spammers, trolls, newbies, and other creatures, then.
[13:12] <SharpRain> Hi I just installed Emacs and I can't find it on my system..
[13:12] <zaggynl> SharpRain: whereis emacs
[13:12] <SharpRain> I don't know
[13:12] <grawity> SharpRain: Have you tried typing "emacs" on the Terminal?
[13:13] <zaggynl> it's a command "whereis"
[13:13] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : K , I got disconnected <sorry> but can you answer the question I posted
[13:13] <grawity> SharpRain: Or "whereis emacs", as zaggynl suggested.
[13:13] <SharpRain> Hmm, thanks, that works
[13:13] <b0red> how to print system timezone?
[13:13] <shos> emacs isntalls by default in /usr/share/ i think
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> jakes: chmod +x the file then you can run it
[13:14] <KendrickSF> grawity: Thanks...This channel is running way faster than the irc channels I visited at CalPoly15 years ago.
[13:14] <Pici> b0red: Try: echo $TZ
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> SharpRain:  emacs also has a gui (x) and Non X versions.
[13:15] <Newbie> Can anyone help me with setting up my Wireless connection on a "nx6125" (Broadcom  4318) laptop? I've tried following the steps on ubuntu forums but have ran into neumerous errors
[13:15] <b0red> [root@s15305831 ~]# cat /etc/localtime
[13:15] <b0red> TZif2UTCTZif2UTC
[13:15] <b0red> UTC0
[13:15] <grawity> b0red: Try 'readlink /etc/localtime' or something.
[13:15] <Newbie> using 8.10 ^
[13:16] <neptune_> for some reason youtube .com doesn't load on my firefox
[13:16] <neptune_> anybody know why/?
[13:16] <Slart> neptune_: try ping www.youtube.com in a terminal
[13:16] <richardcavell> because your flash player sucks?
[13:16] <Boohbah> neptune_: do you have flash player version 10?
[13:16] <tawan> neptune_, the site or the movies?
[13:17] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:17] <neptune_> i have flash player, itts the whole website that doesnt load, (i get a white screen)
[13:17] <koichirose> how do I set nautilus to connect to ftp servers in active mode?
[13:17] <indus> neptune_: u using 64 bit?
[13:17] <Boohbah> neptune_: are you behind a content filter that is blocking the site?
[13:17] <neptune_> ping works...
[13:17] <neptune_> Boonhbah i am not aware of it if i have it
[13:18] <aaron11> im reading through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/248679
[13:18] <Slart> neptune_: try this then "wget -O- www.youtube.com" It should print out the source from the main page
[13:18] <jakes> Actionparsnip, that worked thanks now at the installation screen its saying "No write permission" for installation path
[13:18] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: apparently this tells me how to start the vncserver on boot: http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot -- but how do I stop the regular display from starting?
[13:18] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : You need flash player to view vids in firefox
[13:19] <neptune_> yes wget gives me the source
[13:19] <neptune_> its a firefox issue
[13:19] <amnesia> Slart: it does work in opt
[13:19] <neptune_> it just doesn't like youtub
[13:19] <neptune_> how can i reinstall firefo?X
[13:19] <amnesia> Slart: but the permissions were exactly the same..
[13:19] <abys_> amnesia
[13:19] <Slart> neptune_: yup.. then it's something with firefox.. perhaps try running firefox from a terminal and see if you get any error messages
[13:19] <amnesia> yeah?
[13:20] <abys_> be? ;)
[13:20] <amnesia> nope
[13:20] <KendrickSF> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on the unallocated space of my hard drive that has a primary partition with Windows 7 on it and some unallocated space...I've tried it twice with the default "choose between Ubuntu and your other OS," however the Windows 7 boot manager still runs and grub doesn't seem to superscede it. Suggestions?
[13:21] <Nicd-> Dr_Willis: apparently this tells me how to start the vncserver on boot: http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot -- but how do I stop the regular display from starting?
[13:21] <neptune_> i am reinstalling it from synaptic
[13:21] <Slart> amnesia: jrib explained it.. if I understand it correctly the permissions on a folder doesn't mean the same as for a file (have a look here http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml#zzee_link_9_1077830297 )
[13:21] <aaron11> does anyone have an idea
[13:21] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:21] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : Are you sure you installed it , if yes do you have the live CD
[13:21] <aaron11> im reading through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/248679
[13:22] <Slart> amnesia: basically.. the parent folder permissions decide if the folder can be deleted, renamed and so on.. the permissions you set on the folder itself mostly restricts what you can do with the files *inside* that folder
[13:22] <neptune_> still nothing
[13:22] <neptune_> !
[13:22] <neptune_> :( what should i do?
[13:22] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ :reinstalling won't help
[13:22] <amnesia> ahh okay
[13:23] <aaron11> hi [o_O]
[13:23] <neptune_> so what's gonna help?
[13:23] <chris|> Nicd-, if you don't have a Screen, there is no point in having a VNC server
[13:23] <Nicd-> chris|: and why is that?
[13:24] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: I do have the live cd. it created a partition in the free space, but the grub boot manager didn't run when I rebooted. The Windows 7 boot manager ran.
[13:24] <ToXBoT> !usb
[13:24] <aaron11> >_< please read my question
[13:24] <ToXBoT> !patient | aaron11
[13:24] <chris|> Nicd-, because the reason for having a VNC server is to have that X Screen remotely available
[13:24] <ToXBoT> :p
[13:25] <aaron11> ToXBoT lol
[13:25] <ToXBoT> aaron11, I don't rem the keyword!
[13:25] <Slart> aaron11: I've read it.. I have no idea what is going on.. never had problems like that
[13:25] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : Try deleting .mozilla folder in you home folder and reinstalling firefox . Also please install adobe flash ( http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ ) select the .deb
[13:25] <neptune_> Blizzerand I have flash
[13:26] <oiahhefh> anyone removed notify-osd and replaced it? can i just replace it w the older package?
[13:26] <chris|> Nicd-, if you don't what the screen, then VNC is probably not the right service for you. Maybe you should look into SSH instead
[13:26] <KendrickSF> Oh well, I knew I was gonna have some trouble dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu.
[13:27] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : k boot into the live CD and try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[13:27] <aaron11> oh «:_(
[13:27] <Blizzerand_> !grub
[13:28] <Josh_> wow, updating ubuntu over network proxy SUCKS.
[13:28] <aaron11> cant anyone helo
[13:28] <aaron11> helo
[13:28] <aaron11> sorry hel-p
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> i deleted .mozilla and it works
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> thx
[13:29] <neptune_> [13:28] <neptune_> i lost my bookmarks tho :(
[13:29] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : k try the first part  . .mozilla is a hidden file , to unhide it use ctrl+h
[13:29] <Nicd-> chris|: no, I want a screen, that was a misunderstanding. but when I run vncserver, it tells me that something is already occupying display 0. I need to do /etc/init.d/gdm stop (which is GNOME apparently) to start vncserver
[13:29] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: Oy vey...That looks very helpful! Thanks so much!
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> jakes: run it with sudo
[13:30] <Nicd-> chris|: so how could I stop gdm from running (not X, my misunderstanding) so I wouldn't have to do that on every boot?
[13:30] <Ulises> Blizzerand the connection got off
[13:30] <Blizzerand_> neptune_ : Sorry for the last post . That by mistake and bookmarks you can bookmark them again <sorry though>
[13:30] <Slart> aaron11: just be patient.. repeat your question every 15 minutes or so.. while you wait you can search the forums. Try to include all the details in your question.. such as what version of ubuntu you're running, 32bit/64bit and so on. screenshots are nice if something "looks weird", check /var/log/syslog for error messages.. check if the problems are the same if you're using a live cd and so on
[13:30] <Ulises> Did you wathc the error I pasted at pastebin?
[13:31] <Blizzerand_> Ulises > Do you have the live CD with you ,
[13:31] <Ulises> Yes
[13:31] <Ulises> I'm running ubuntu through it
[13:31] <Ulises> right now
[13:32] <Skarpz> Dr_Willis: I put it up in the forum and I may ask in here again at a different time
[13:32] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : K , just hang on
[13:33] <yankubasanneh> hello
[13:34] <Ulises> ok
[13:34] <yankubasanneh> hello
[13:34] <chris|> Nicd-, try sudo update-rc.d gdm remove default
[13:34] <Newbee> hello
[13:34] <Newbee> I tried to install clamav-daemon on jaunty. But when I try to scan something with clamdscan I always get: "lstat() failed: Permission denied. ERROR
[13:35] <Newbee> even if I use sudo. So I don't know what to do about it.
[13:35] <Nicd-> chris|: thanks, I'll try that
[13:35] <jeeva> need high resolution in my laptop
[13:35] <jeeva> it shows only 1024
[13:35] <jeeva> how to increase it?
[13:36] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Which partition do you run ubuntu on
[13:36] <oreon> giorno a tutti
[13:36] <Ulises> sda1
[13:36] <indus> oreon: giorno
[13:36] <exarkun> On Hardy, when I run update-manager, it immediately opens a dialog box titled "Not all updates can be installed" and then prompts me to run a partial upgrade.  How can I tell what updates couldn't be installed, and why?  What is this a partial upgrade to?
[13:36] <oreon> •indus• ciao
[13:36] <oreon> az
[13:36] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : from a terminal run ,sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sda1
[13:37] <indus> oreon: so you have an ubuntu question ?
[13:37] <jeevaguru> need help on screen resolution
[13:37] <oreon> •indus• sei italiano
[13:37] <oreon> ??
[13:37] <Ulises> ok i did
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : What was the result
[13:38] <Myrtti> !it | oreon
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> !e2fsck
[13:38] <Myrtti> indus: pro tip: use English
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> !fsck
[13:38] <aaron11> helo im having some problem with pigin it crashes when ever i want to type somthing to a person i read through some bugs at launchpad but didnt unserstand anything im using ubuntu jaunty and here is some extra information last night i was having some problems with my Xserver and rebooted in recovery and everything was fine but my firefox google search area on top does not work or respond to my enter key or the search button.
[13:38] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Did you get any errors
[13:39] <Ulises> no
[13:39] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271431/
[13:40] <RadarG> I just installed VLC and when I go to start the app it acts like it tries to open it but it fails
[13:40] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : That should have done something good , or fixed something . If not follow this article , it may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4695892
[13:40] <KendrickSF> @Blizzerand: Thanks for the "Overwriting the Windows Bootloader" link! I think that's exactly what I need. Cheers!
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> KendrickSF : Glad I could help
[13:41] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i'm on lxde now, is there a way for me to add a panel with the battery monitor beside the clock on this?
[13:41] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : Gotta go , if you have more doubts use the ubuntuforums.com
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: right click -> add to panel
[13:41] <Ulises> Ok
[13:42] <Ulises> ¡Good bye!
[13:42] <KULA_> who speak polish?? ;]
[13:42] <Newbee> can this permission problem with clamd be caused by the rights of the folders?
[13:42] <aaron111> no no forget my question
[13:42] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i did that and selected battery monitor, but when i checked it on the check list a big area of the panel simply became black
[13:42] <aaron111> i did it
[13:42] <Blizzerand_> Ulises : I'd advise you to check whether it did solve the prob though
[13:43] <Myrtti> !pl | KULA_
[13:43] <Ulises> aha
[13:43] <indus> !it > oreon
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ive not used it on laptops so maybe thats normal, run it a while, see how it changes
[13:44] <CIHAN> howdy ppl:)
[13:45] <vigo> Hello CIHAN
[13:46] <CIHAN> sup?
[13:46] <vigo> oops, I am not ppl, I am hooman.
[13:47] <vigo> Another wonderful day.
[13:47] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: how can i set compiz to work on lxde?
[13:48] <talin> hello. i downloaded a file to /usr/local/steam/bleh.bin... when i try to chmod +x bleh.bin; ./bleh.bin in that dir, it says file not found...
[13:48] <talin> any idea why?
[13:48] <talin> i tried running it with sudo
[13:49] <vigo> talin: did you mkdir or am I not awake yet?
[13:49] <cybErpunk> ..talin, do a ls /usr/local/steam and check that the file is there
[13:50] <talin> file /usr/local/steam/bleh.bin, ELF blahblah
[13:50] <talin> it is there
[13:50] <aaron111> does anyone know why i cannot log on to my youtube account
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: same as any DE
[13:50] <CIHAN> vigo if u aint ppl u shouldnt be talking u filthy hooman!
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: get drivers installed then run: compiz --replace
[13:53] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i did that but there are like no effects enabled
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you edit them in ccsm
[13:54] <Guest69970> Hi, how do I deactivate NetworkManager? If I try to add a link in rc3.d to start /etc/init.d/networking instead of NetworkManager my internet just dies (yes I have configured /etc/network/interfaces right). So how do I deactivate NetworkManager?
[13:55] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  how do i make compiz the default? i noticed it switched back after i closed the terminal
[13:55] <IdleOne> !ccsm > zebastian
[13:55] <CIHAN> so i try to conenct to youtube from turkey as u guys might know it is been blocked by the goverment
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: alt+f2   compiz --replace    press enter
[13:55] <CIHAN> there are a couple of apps to bypass this block
[13:55] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: that will last after reboot?
[13:55] <CIHAN> but there are non for linux based os
[13:56] <vigo> CIHAN: TOR and Vidalia running?
[13:56] <arand> zebastian: or use compiz --replace &diswon in terminal
[13:56] <Ytxx> anyone know how to scp a folder with its content I am getting the
[13:56] <arand> * &disown
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you may need to make a script to start it, then create a .desktop file for it in ~/.config/autostart
[13:56] <Ytxx> this error /Users/yaredtseghu/rails/test: not a regular file
[13:56] <CIHAN> just for the record i just started using backtrack
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: i dont know any other way personally
[13:56] <grawity> Ytxx: Try scp -r
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> CIHAN: you can use stuff like http://www.hidemyass.com
[13:57] <CIHAN> i know about proxys
[13:57] <CIHAN> but that slows down
[13:57] <CIHAN> the connection speeds in turkey are shit already
[13:58] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: is there an lxde channel? how do you make a script?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> CIHAN: keep it PG with the language
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: gksudo leafpad
[13:58] <ManDay> Guys I can't redirect output of a certain program to file. I do    &> logfile programname  and actually everything goes into logfile BUT the only thing that I really care about is still printed to screen - how can this be?!?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: #!/bin/bash
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: compiz --replace
[13:58] <LjL> ManDay: it's being output to stderr
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: have those 2 lines in the file
[13:59] <grawity> LjL: But &> redirects both.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: save the file in /usr/bin as startcompiz
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: then run: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startcompiz
[13:59] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Why not exec compiz --replace?
[13:59] <prince_jammys> ManDay: perhaps your prog outputs directly to the terminal.
[13:59] <zamba> how do i set the timezone?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> grawity: same thing....
[14:00] <LjL> grawity: oh. i didn't know, always did both separately.
[14:00] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Without 'exec', you have a useless /bin/bash running in a corner.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you may want to add a & on the end
[14:00] <ManDay> prince_jammys, what is the technical difference?
[14:00] <ManDay> (what does the program do differently) ?
[14:00] <prince_jammys> ManDay: ie. (in a shell script): echo foo > /dev/tty
[14:01] <ManDay> ah
[14:01] <grawity> ManDay: It might write to /dev/tty instead of stdout.
[14:01] <prince_jammys> &> will not redirect that
[14:01] <talin> how is this possible? sudo mkdir /usr/local/steam; sudo wget http://.../hldsupdatetool.bin; sudo chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin; sudo ./hldsupdatetool.bin ... "no such file or dir"?
[14:01] <ManDay> ok, but how do i log this stuff then?
[14:01] <grawity> ActionParsnip: And with 'exec', compiz replaces bash.
[14:01] <prince_jammys> ManDay: well, first make certain that that is really the case.
[14:02] <ManDay> prince_jammys, it most likely is the case - as you said
[14:02] <ManDay> So how do I log what it sends to the tty directly?
[14:02] <prince_jammys> painfully.
[14:02] <jrib> talin: you're missing a file or directory, not necessarily that one.  See if you have those ia32* packages installed....
[14:02] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: add an a on the end of what?
[14:02] <prince_jammys> i don't even know. perhaps with a tool like screen
[14:02] <ManDay> prince_jammys, thats a good idea
[14:02] <ManDay> ill try
[14:03] <prince_jammys> or maybe 'script', which i've never used.
[14:03] <talin> jrib: the problem is thati  don't know that the ia32-equivalent packages are called on freebsd
[14:03] <ManDay> prince_jammys, huh?
[14:03]  * jrib looks at channel name
[14:03] <prince_jammys> ManDay: man script also to see if it's of use.
[14:03] <talin> jrib: i've been reading troubleshooting stuff for linux
[14:03] <jrib> talin: freebsd has a channel on freenode iirc
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: the line: compiz --replace &      is correct. I missed the &
[14:04] <talin> jrib: ? this is freebsd... but there is 0 documentation for freebsd and steam
[14:04] <Pici> talin: This channel is #ubuntu
[14:04] <jrib> talin: this is #ubuntu, try the freebsd channel
[14:04] <talin> oops, wrong window
[14:04] <Idhan> I have problem with the java plugin with firefox ... java is installed but firefox doesnt use it..how can I do it?
[14:04] <ManDay> prince_jammys, if you could tell me how to make a terminal scrollable i could also go with that. my problem is that the program crashes and gives an error message which is too long to fit into the terminal - so i cant see its beginning
[14:04] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i opened leafpad with the gksudo, i pasted on one line #!/bin/bash and under in another line compiz --replace then i saved it as startcompiz in usr/bin and then i ran that command you gave me, will from now compiz load everytime i log into lxde?
[14:04] <talin> jrib: heh, i'm trying to the same install on ubuntu ;)
[14:05] <prince_jammys> ManDay: run it in screen is one way
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: no,
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: run: gksudo leafpad /usr/bin/startcompiz      and change    compiz --replace    to     compiz --replace &
[14:05] <zebastian> what does it do then ActionParsnip
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: its a script we need to call at startup
[14:06] <grawity> ManDay: What terminal are you using? gnome-terminal, xterm, Linux console, PuTTY?
[14:06] <ManDay> gnomer terminal Granis
[14:06] <ManDay> sorry, grawity
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you then need to run: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/startcompiz
[14:06] <grawity> ManDay: And doesn't it have scrollbars?
[14:06] <ManDay> ermm no, maybe i disabled them
[14:06] <ManDay> ill take a look in the prefs
[14:07] <Guest80129> I have installed crunch bang Linux in virtualbox but can not get full screen to work guest addtions do nothing! im using ubuntu 9.04 as host os
[14:07] <jrib> Guest80129: try #vbox
[14:07] <talin> what is the ia32-libs package called now?
[14:07] <ManDay> grawity, yep, there it is
[14:07] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: done, how do i get compiz to load automatically every time i log onto lxde now?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can then run: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/leafpad.desktop /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop && gksudo leafpad /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop
[14:07] <jrib> talin: same...
[14:08] <_ikke_> How come i can ping google.com, but cant connect with it with my browser (ubuntu 8.04 in a vm)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: we are in the middle of doing it now
[14:08] <Guest8721> How do I add an initscript to boot or default. I have tried "update-rc.d net.eth0 defaults", but the script doesn't start. Any ideas?
[14:08] <talin> jrib: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs says "couldn't find package"
[14:08] <jrib> talin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32&searchon=names&suite=jaunty&section=all
[14:09] <jrib> talin: do you know how to troubleshoot from here?
[14:09] <danpandrea> could somebody explain step by step how to make an intel 3945ABG wireless card to work with ubuntu?
[14:09] <ManDay> Does anyone know what   /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x48)  means and what'S a common cause of the resulting BOF ?
[14:09] <talin> jrib: not really
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: in the file that opens, change the line that starts Exec=   to read Exec=startcompiz
[14:09] <jrib> talin: what version of ubuntu?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: save the file and close gedit
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> not gedit, leafpad
[14:09] <talin> jrib: 9.04
[14:10] <jrib> talin: what is the output of: uname -m
[14:10] <talin> jrib: x86_64
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you now have a launcher, you can now run: cd ~/.config/autostart; ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:11] <jrib> talin: run « sudo apt-get update » and try to install the package again.   If it still fails, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:11] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i got one line that reads Exec=leafpad %f do i change it to Exec=startcompiz
[14:11] <zebastian> ?
[14:11] <talin> jrib: that worked! thank you
[14:12] <zebastian> Exec=leafpad %f to Exec=startcompiz is that correct ActionParsnip?
[14:12] <_ikke_> How come i can ping google.com, but cant connect with it with my browser (ubuntu 8.04 in a vm)
[14:12] <Guest80129> does anyone know how to set hompage in dillo?
[14:12] <LjL> _ikke_: a proxy set on your browser maybe?
[14:13] <_ikke_> LjL: Nope, checked that
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: yes
[14:13] <prince_jammys> ManDay: script -c YourCommand  YourFile.log  seems promising.
[14:13] <ManDay> Thanks prince_jammys :)
[14:14] <prince_jammys> ManDay: assuming you have script, which i believe comes with default ubuntu.
[14:14] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: bash: cd: /home/sebastian/.config/autostart: No such file or directory
[14:14] <jco> hi, is there an alternative gnome terminal, with advanced features like silence/activity notifications, send input to multi tabs, etc...?
[14:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  that's the output to the command you gave me
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: cd ~/.config/autostart
[14:16] <danpandrea> could somebody explain step by step how to make an intel 3945ABG wireless card to work with ubuntu?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:16] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: No such file or directory
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: cd ~/.config
[14:17] <vigo> zebastian: Remember the ~'s?
[14:17] <Guest80129> can anyone tell me how to set homepage in dillo browser thx
[14:17] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: ok it changed the working directory
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: lets check what we have: cd /home/sebastian/.config/
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: what is the output of pwd?
[14:18] <zamba> how do i tell ubuntu what locales to generate?
[14:18] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: /home/sebastian/.config
[14:18] <prince_jammys> ManDay: that seems to work nicely, and you can redirect script's output to /dev/null and still have the stuff captured in the log file.
[14:18] <bigcx2> hey guys, is there anyway to reload/refresh gconf settings without restart gdm?
[14:18] <MeGa> good morning
[14:19] <bigcx2> hey guys, is there anyway to reload/refresh gconf settings without restarting gdm?
[14:19] <ikonia> http://tinyurl.com/test
[14:19] <jrib> bigcx2: you shouldn't have to refresh anything.  That's the whole point of gconf
[14:19] <bigcx2> hm
[14:19] <bigcx2> well
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok, if you run    ls     do you see a folder named autostart
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: i wanted to make a gconf change directly in the xml
[14:20] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  nope
[14:20] <Garp_> Question: How can I change runlevel in recent ubuntu systems? I would like to restart most stuff (doing the equivalent of a telinit 1 telinit 5). Any suggestion ? THanks.
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: and it didn't pick it up
[14:20] <jrib> bigcx2: why... use gconftool
[14:20] <bigcx2> jrib: for a personal package
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok then run: mkdir ./autostart; cd autostart
[14:20] <zebastian> done
[14:20] <jrib> bigcx2: ask the gnome guys how to properly do that
[14:21] <ales> hallo
[14:21] <bigcx2> jrib: just curious, do you work for canonical?
[14:21] <jrib> bigcx2: no
[14:22] <harisund> Is there an acrobat reader plugin for Mozilla? I have that medibuntu thing but I am unable to find anything.. there used to be acroread-mozilla-plugin or something like that right?
[14:22] <bigcx2> jrib: i think i just found my answer, dh_gconf
[14:22] <jrib> bigcx2: sounds right
[14:22] <Boris> hello. I hvae a brief question, can I start Ubuntu Live CD on HP Proliant server with RAID5 to test RAID5 functionality and is it safe for data on this RAID volume? Which Live CD I should use - Ubuntu Server or Desktop?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: now yo have the folder you cxan symlink in the apps you want to autostart
[14:23] <dayo> installing moodle on hardy with this guide: http://is.gd/3iBWy it says i need to install libapache2-mod-security, but it's neither in the debian nor the ubuntu repo. what do i do?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: so you can run: ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop .
[14:23] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: can you explain what you just said
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: which?
[14:24] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: zebastian: now yo have the folder you cxan symlink in the apps you want to autostart
[14:24] <amnesia> jrib:
[14:24] <amnesia> ahh crap
[14:24] <jrib> amnesia: ?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you want any apps to run at startup, then that folder is used
[14:24] <amnesia> ahh cwl you're still here
[14:25] <amnesia> well apparantly it has something to do with the desktop folder
[14:25] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: so now lxde WILL run on start up with compiz
[14:25] <jrib> amnesia: cleaning apt so yeah :)
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can create syblic links to the desktop files in /usr/share/applications. symlinks use no space and will make whatever is linked, run at statup
[14:25] <amnesia> I guess it is inheriting the permissions of its parent folder
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: did you make the link?
[14:25] <amnesia> but how that works, I havent got a clue
[14:25] <amnesia> lol is your cache that full?
[14:25] <jrib> amnesia: no, didn't you see what I told you before?  You can only delete foo/bar if you have write permissions on foo, which amnesia does
[14:25] <zebastian> ln -s /usr/share/applications/startcompiz.desktop . ActionParsnip?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: yes
[14:26] <amnesia> what's foo?
[14:26] <amnesia> and what's bar:p
[14:26] <zebastian> ok brb let me go check that it works
[14:26] <amnesia> foobar sounds real familiar
[14:26] <jrib> amnesia: an arbitrary directory, and bar is arbitrary file inside foo
[14:26] <prince_jammys> names used for examples.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: once that link (or you can use raw .desktop files) exists, it will run at startup
[14:26] <amnesia> jrib: I've also made a new user and tried to remove it with that account, which worked
[14:26] <{g}> Hey People! How can I move+resize the partition I am using as / ? gparted wont let me when started while the partition is used. When I start Ubuntu from CD gparted is not installed. Should I use parted?
[14:26] <jrib> amnesia: pastebin please...
[14:27] <psql> Hi guy+
[14:27] <amnesia> okay, hang on
[14:28] <Cpudan80> {g}: use a gparted live cd, or download gparted from the ubuntu live cd (sudo apt-get install gparted)
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> {g}:  boot a live cd that has gparted on it and use it from there.. or install gparted  (it will install to the ram) from that live cd
[14:28] <MeGa> omg guys am trying to make IRC server since 3 days but it JUST FAIL :(
[14:28] <prince_jammys> {g}: if you have the ubuntu live CD, it has gparted in the menus as 'Partition Editor'. There is also a gparted live CD which you can download.
[14:28] <psql> can someone help me?.... I have this error in synaptic:"E: openoffice.org-wiki-publisher: il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1"
[14:28] <w0ls0n> hello all.
[14:28] <MeGa> hi
[14:28] <{g}> drunken_sorteal: ah! didnt know i can install stuff on a livecd
[14:28] <MeGa> can someone help me with this damn irc server?
[14:28] <{g}> prince_jammys: ok, rebooting now
[14:28] <{g}> Cpudan80: thanks!
[14:29] <Cpudan80> np
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: better?
[14:29] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i just logged in and i got this dialogue come up http://pastebin.com/m6d5b91e3
[14:29] <Boris> hi, does anyone know, support of RAID5 volumes are identical in Desktop and Server Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD?
[14:29] <psql> can someone help me?.... I have this error in synaptic:"E: openoffice.org-wiki-publisher: the subprocess post-installation script gives an error code 1"
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok,do what it says
[14:30] <w0ls0n> is there an easy way to release and renew an ip?
[14:30] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: I don't get what it says
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: leafpad ~/.gtkrc-2.0     and add the line it tells you
[14:30] <harisund> Anyone? Can ubuntu read PDFs within the Mozilla browser like I can do on Windows?
[14:30] <indus> psql: go to packages >fix broken packages
[14:30] <w0ls0n> I changed DNS on my winblows box and rebooted but it's not picking up the new DNS server
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> harisund: if you istall the acroread mozilla plugin
[14:30] <ManDay> Please have a look at my problem with slow resume from hibernation: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266263
[14:30] <indus> psql: then in a terminal type sudo apt-get update
[14:30] <vigo> harisund: Yes it does.
[14:30] <genii> w0ls0n: sudo dhclient -r ethX && sudo dhclient ethX       (substitute for ethX as required)
[14:30] <harisund> ActionParsnip, what package is that? And which repository is it in?
[14:31] <w0ls0n> ah
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !find acroread
[14:31] <vigo> !PDF | harisund
[14:31] <amnesia> ahh jrib I was wrong
[14:31] <amnesia> and you were right
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> harisund: try: apt-cache search acro | grep moz
[14:31] <klo> sudo: unable to resolve host localhost.localdomain
[14:31] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That was the first thing I did. It only shows me flashblock and swfdec-mozilla
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> klo: make sure what is in /etc/hostname  matches what is in /etc/hosts    for 127.0.0.1
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> harisund: no it shouldnt as neither of those contain acro
[14:32] <harisund> ActionParsnip, I recall there being a mozilla plugin on earlier versions of Ubuntu. I have all the universe/multiverse repos enabled and even added the Medibuntu one
[14:32] <harisund> ActionParsnip, The acro is from Macromedia
[14:32] <w0ls0n> is there a way to find out if it's getting the backup dns info now?
[14:32] <{g}> hmm.. gparted shows me the extended partition with a keyring next to it and wont let me change its position. why that?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> harisund: acroread is from Adobe, not macromedia
[14:33] <w0ls0n> oh duh
[14:33] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That I know. You said "no it shouldn't as neither of those contain acro" so I said they do contrain acro from Macromedia
[14:33] <w0ls0n> resolv.conf
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> harisund: oic, my bad
[14:34] <harisund> apt-cache search acroread shows acroread-Adobe Reader and acroread-fonts - Fonts for Acrobat Reader (medibuntu package)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> harisund: do you havemedibuntu repos enabled
[14:34] <harisund> Yes I do
[14:34] <harisund> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 <-- I used this page
[14:34] <ManDay> Does anyone here have ROOT installedß
[14:34] <ManDay> ?
[14:34] <Boris> does anyone here tried ubuntu on HP Proliant server?
[14:34] <amnesia> jrib: how am I exactly able to manage this foobar app/lib(?)
[14:35] <grawity> ManDay: What do you mean by "ROOT"? The superuser account?
[14:35] <indus> ManDay: root user?
[14:35] <ManDay> no, the program
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: root isnt a program, its an account
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: got a link?
[14:35] <indus> !info root
[14:35] <ManDay> root.cern.ch
[14:35] <harisund> ActionParsnip, That page I linked shows installation of acroread-plugins and the mozilla plugin for pre-8.04 families of Ubuntu, not Jaunty
[14:35] <ManDay> !info root-system
[14:35] <jrib> amnesia: I'm not sure what you want to do.  The behavior you described is normal.  What do you want to change?
[14:35] <amnesia> jrib: I'm only working on this so I know how it works
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ManDay: wow suprised they called it that
[14:36] <[A]KangB> hi everyone
[14:36] <jrib> amnesia: k, what aren't you sure about?
[14:36] <BuFF> hi, what is the path to place vim's color schemes ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> harisund: then you'll need a paa for jaunty for the mozilla plugin for acroread
[14:36] <jrib> BuFF: ~/.vim/colors/ works
[14:36] <harisund> ActionParsnip, sorry but what's a paa?
[14:36] <BuFF> jrib, thanks
[14:36] <indus> !ppa
[14:37] <rich_dnb> each time i boot ubuntu i have to readd my samba printer on my windows pc to print to it, why is that?
[14:37] <amnesia> jrib: well what is this foo/bar thing, wikipedia tells me stuff about the us army fubar
[14:37] <amnesia> :p
[14:37] <harisund> hmm ok I will try to find more information thanks . I just don't want Firefox telling me "Do you want to download this PDF or open it with Evince" every single time I click on a PDF link
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> harisund: typo, sorry
[14:37] <andrewz__> whats a good dictionary program, offline with definitions and a gui
[14:37] <[A]KangB> how can i get a vHost on Freenode!?
[14:37] <indus> harisund: adobe reader mozilla plugin
[14:37] <IdleOne> !cloak > [A]KangB
[14:38] <indus> ActionParsnip: what is harisund looking for?
[14:38] <[A]KangB> thanks IdleOne
[14:38] <harisund> indus is there a package of that name?
[14:38] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  it just occured to me, sometimes when i am watching a movie or an avi video, i turn compiz off, how would i go about doing that?
[14:38] <jrib> amnesia: foo and bar are just used as generic names for variables, like "x" and "y" in math
[14:38] <indus> harisund: well, its now called adobe reader
[14:38] <amnesia> ahh okay
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: could make a script to turn off compiz and run the program then start compiz up when its done
[14:39] <amnesia> so basically you're sayin I am not in "some file"?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: that sort of messing around is 1 reason why i detest compiz
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: its just not worth it
[14:39] <indus> harisund: cant you find it from synaptic?
[14:40] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: but to do it manually
[14:40] <zebastian> how would i go about it
[14:40] <jrib> amnesia: when I said foo/bar I could have said Desktop/ateam-movie or jrib/Desktop or any other directory with something inside of it.  I was just trying to be generic
[14:40] <harisund> indus there is "adobe reader" yes but no mozilla plugin
[14:40] <amnesia> ahh okay sorry
[14:40] <indus> harisund: hmm mozilla plugin for what
[14:40] <harisund> For the adobe reader
[14:41] <amnesia> so the permissions for removing are arranged differently?
[14:41] <indus> harisund: to do what
[14:41] <mgv1> hello, i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[14:41] <indus> harisund: i know what but i still want to ask
[14:41] <harisund> indus to see PDFs within my browser
[14:41] <shomon> hi, I've got a 54m wireless card, I plugged it in and nothing is showing up on ubuntu hardy. Is there anything I need to do to make it work?
[14:41] <Dunge> Anyone can explain me the difference between /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you can use the compiz control app to switch between
[14:41] <indus> harisund: yes thats a  firefox plugin
[14:41] <andrewz__> can i download a offline copy of gnome-dictionary somehow?
[14:41] <Total_Oblivion> hello! How can I uninstall ubuntu from my PC?  have dual boot
[14:41] <indus> harisund: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:7
[14:42] <indus> is this what you want
[14:42] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: the what?
[14:42] <Nophiq> Hi all, How can I avoid backup files like "myfile.txt~"?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: theres an app you can run to switch between window managers. Iforget its name
[14:42] <harisund> indus yes that takes me to Adobes' website directly ..
[14:42] <Halitech> Total_Oblivion, use your windows install cd to repair the MBR then format the ubuntu partitions using windows
[14:42] <jrib> amnesia: the permissions on a directory have a different meaning than those on a file
[14:42] <Boris> will I have access to RAID5 volume right after start of Ubuntu livecd? is it safe for raid5 volume data?
[14:43] <SharpRain> is gedit good?
[14:43] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: otherwise how would you do it on the terminal? to turn compiz off and on
[14:43] <amnesia> jrib: I know
[14:43] <indus> harisund: strange
[14:43] <cursive> after a fresh install of ubuntu, how do I get computer, documents, trash etc. icons on my desktop?
[14:43] <harisund> indus I guess i will have to try that. It's just that I am afraid to download anything from the web and install it myself (like I do in Windows) since then if I ask for any support on the forums or IRC I am simply yelled at for not using the repositoies
[14:43] <indus> harisund: wait 2 sec
[14:43] <jrib> amnesia: and as you notice, write permissions for a directory determine whether a file can be removed and/or renamed
[14:43] <indus> harisund: ya that reader is what you looking for i believe
[14:43] <cursive> just moved from ubuntu from vista :3
[14:43] <amnesia> jrib: but remove doesnt fall under read,write,execure right?
[14:43] <thiebaude> SharpRain, i use it
[14:43] <jrib> amnesia: it falls under "write for parent directory"
[14:43] <harisund> indus It's as though if I don't use the repositories for something I am voiding my Ubuntu warranty haha ..ok I will try it the manual way
[14:43] <indus> harisund: it then integrates with browser too so u can view pdf
[14:43] <amnesia> hm okay
[14:44] <harisund> indus All right will give it a try
[14:44] <indus> harisund: wait
[14:44] <indus> harisund: download from ubuntu repo enable the partner repository
[14:44] <harisund> indus,  I have enabled the partner repo
[14:44] <cursive> please answer me
[14:44] <harisund> indus: What's the name of the package there?
[14:44] <gb__> hiya all
[14:44] <indus> harisund: checking wait 1 wsec
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: not sure, never ran compiz in lxde
[14:45] <thiebaude> cursive, what is your question?
[14:45] <jrib> amnesia: if you're interested in this sort of stuff, you may be interested in learning more about how the filesystem works.  Look up what inodes work.  I think that will also give you a better understanding for your current question
[14:45] <cursive> after a fresh install of ubuntu, how do I get computer, documents, trash etc. icons on my desktop?
[14:45] <cursive> just moved from ubuntu from vista :3
[14:45] <jrib> s/what/how
[14:45] <cursive> to ubuntu from vista*
[14:45] <gb__> does anyone here have pcchip p29g model?
[14:45] <thiebaude> cursive, i drag and drop them to the desktop
[14:45] <shomon> is there a how to for setting up dual monitors in ubuntu?
[14:45] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: well it should be replace for....what's lxde's file manager?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: openbox --replace
[14:45] <mpedraza> hellooooooooooooooooooooooo
[14:45] <cursive> ah!
[14:46] <_ikke_> cursive: right click on desktop and then create launcher
[14:46] <thiebaude> cursive, i cant drag and drop the places icon
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: lxde's file manager default is thunar but you can use nautilus if you like, or rox, konqueror, dolphin
[14:46] <cursive> how do you get trash on desktop?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: your choice
[14:46] <indus> harisund: aah ok seems not availabele for repos
[14:46] <thiebaude> !launcher
[14:46] <indus> harisund: medibuntu i tried?
[14:46] <jrib> !icons | cursive
[14:46] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: what's the thingy you add to a command so you can close the terminal without it closing the program you opened through the terminal?
[14:46] <cursive> ok
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: &
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you use alt+f2 you dont need that
[14:47] <zebastian> crap, i closed the terminal
[14:47] <noelferreira> how can i see the encoding of a file?
[14:47] <_ikke_> zebastian: its and &
[14:47] <_ikke_> an*
[14:47] <harisund> indus: I have both medibuntu and partner repos enabled, and universe/multiverse and everything. acroread is available, but I want to read those documents iwthin my browser and not have to download them seperately into the desktop and then open with evince
[14:47] <zebastian> and now i have no top bars
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ye, use alt+f2 and you dont have that
[14:47] <jrib> zebastian: & disown, or use nohup, or use screen
[14:47] <_ikke_> argh, too late
[14:47] <genii> noelferreira: file <filename>    gives some info
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: alt+f2, openbox --replace
[14:47] <indus> harisund: no that install does it
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: use alt+f2 for stuff like that, less problems
[14:47] <indus> harisund: it will ask for enable browser plugin
[14:47] <harisund> Interesting, I will give it a try again hang on
[14:48] <indus> harisund: i downloaded from website so i know that works
[14:48] <indus> harisund: now i dont know
[14:48] <indus> harisund: try
[14:48] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: how do you get out of alt f2
[14:48] <noelferreira>  Non-ISO extended-ASCII text
[14:48] <noelferreira>  genni is the endoing extended-ASCII in this case?
[14:48] <indus> harisund: or just install from adobe to save the hassles
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: when you run the command it will vanish, or you can press alt+f4 to close it
[14:49] <harisund> indus: Will do man :) Thank you
[14:49] <cursive> also
[14:49] <noelferreira> genni extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:49] <cursive> how do I set VLC to the default media player?
[14:50] <noelferreira> gennii extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:50] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i keep doing alt f2 and nothng happens
[14:50] <noelferreira> genii extended-ACCII is a encoding type. that's because iconv doesn't recognise it.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if you have compiz enabled it doesnt like lxdes launcher thingy
[14:51] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i can see why you would hate compiz
[14:51] <bro> zebastian, hi.
[14:51] <mgv1> i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[14:51] <genii> noelferreira: It's probably then iso 8859
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: it just stops a whole load of good stuff run. and for what, some crappy animations. per-lease
[14:51] <zebastian> bro: hi, you won't guess what i did in the end
[14:51] <bro> zebastian, reinstalled ubuntu?
[14:51] <cursive> how do I set VLC to the default media player in ubuntu? so when I open up my songs, it opens it in that, instead of that movie player
[14:52] <zebastian> bro: installed hardy, it works perfectly
[14:52] <Halitech> cursive, right click the media file you want to open with vlc, select properties and then change the default app
[14:52] <ericka> ola
[14:52] <cursive> oke
[14:52] <harisund> indus Thank you again :)
[14:52] <LiCeT> hi all
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> cursive: right click an mp3 or whatever -> open with then select openwith other app, then tell the OS to remember the option
[14:53] <noelferreira> genii and how can i check that. because there's diffetent types of iso and i need to convert it to utf-8 and o need the correct actual code tu use with iconv
[14:53] <arand> cursive: What I know you can do is go into properties-openwith for specific files (>>filetypes)
[14:53] <bro> zebastian, tell me, you do have tearing [no-vsync] in movies and on desktop [while moving windows around], in hardy?
[14:53] <LiCeT> got a new webcam "communicate stx"
[14:53] <LiCeT> and just get a black screen
[14:54] <arvind_khadri> LiCeT, cheese?
[14:54] <zebastian> bro: what does that mean? tearing?
[14:54] <LiCeT> stops directly after starting cam
[14:54] <loneone> can someone help me to install huawei 3g usb stick?
[14:54] <chingus> Er I need help, is this the right place?
[14:55] <IdleOne> chingus: depends
[14:55] <chingus> er k thanks
[14:55] <IdleOne> ask your next question
[14:55] <arvind_khadri> chingus, if its ubuntu :)
[14:55] <chingus> I am having trouble turning on the dektop effects
[14:55] <chingus> It can't seem to find the drivers
[14:55] <LiCeT> how do in stall gspca?
[14:56] <bro> zebastian, it's when you see that the window is kind of slashed vertically and the upper half is slighty moved to right/left than the lower half. like in games when you don't select vertical syncronization [vsync]
[14:56] <chingus> what is stall gspca?
[14:56] <loneone> can someone help?
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> chingus, which card?
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> !ask | loneone
[14:56] <zebastian> bro: no no it works perfectly
[14:56] <zebastian> it's great
[14:56] <chingus> I don't know how to find out
[14:56] <zebastian> way better than jaunty
[14:56] <LiCeT> seems in need gspca
[14:56] <LiCeT> *i
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> loneone: run: lsusb    you will et an 8 character hex code you can websearch for
[14:56] <amnesia> jrib: so any user can still remove someone elses folder?, as long as the parent folder has write permissions
[14:56] <arvind_khadri> LiCeT, aptitude search gspca
[14:56] <IdleOne> LiCeT: gspca-source
[14:57] <loneone> ok
[14:57] <loneone> I want to install huawei 3g usb stick to my ubuntu
[14:57] <chingus> LiCeT: gspca-sourc
[14:57] <chingus> wait sorry
[14:57] <chingus> Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:57] <dragonrigs> helo my ubuntu has some problems latly i had an update and it needed 157mb and in my disk there is 215 gb and the error mesage told me to do sudo apt-get clean now whenever i go to the applications button. nothing apears but it gets highlighted
[14:57] <chingus> Thats my card
[14:57] <LiCeT> what about it chingus?
[14:58] <IdleOne> !intel > chingus
[14:58] <chingus> Er I can't turn on desktop effects becasue it can't find drivers for Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[14:58] <LiCeT> i   gspca-source                    - source for the gspca v4l kernel module
[14:58] <LiCeT> after search gspca
[14:58] <Halitech> dragonrigs, use pastebin to post the output of df -h
[14:58] <chingus> huh?
[14:58] <LiCeT> amsn && skype i just get a black screen
[14:58] <thiebaude> !intel | chingus
[14:59] <rich_dnb> guys why do i have to copy a printer every time i need to print?
[14:59] <LiCeT> pointing directly to the light i get the light
[14:59] <chingus> thanks
[14:59] <Beefcaked> hi i was just wondering.. when i had windows vista installed on my laptop it would last for 2 hours. now it only barely gets through 30 minutes
[14:59] <IdleOne> chingus: I have the exact same card. you can't :(
[14:59] <thiebaude> IdleOne, and i have the 80815
[14:59] <genii> noelferreira: Apologies on lag, work required me. You might want to try convmv
[14:59] <genii> !info convmv | noelferreira
[15:00] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: something got lost, when i logged on it said unable to establish connection with fam
[15:00] <chingus> I tried this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[15:00] <chingus> but my comp crashed
[15:00] <zebastian> brb
[15:00] <SoulBlade> how do i check the compile flags used to build the installed version of expat?
[15:01] <dragonrigs> Halitech http://pastebin.ca/1567011
[15:01] <mgv1> i want to ask. why don't they do some installations in ubuntu more simple? like the tor installation which i havn't succeed with
[15:01] <noelferreira> genii, i am using a server where i am not adminsitrator and i can't installl convmv: is there any other option. i just need the correct file encoding listed. the i use iconv
[15:02] <mgv1> why does my toolbar bookmarks dissapeard?
[15:02] <chingus> Okay I suppose I should reestablish my problem I can't activate desktop effects as drivers are not found for graphics card Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02 I tried whats on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 but it made my comp crashed. How can I activate them?
[15:02] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you used wubi to install?
[15:02] <thiebaude> chingus, you might not be able to
[15:02] <dragonrigs> Halitech yes
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: they are simple, you cant even chosse defaults apps its that simple
[15:03] <chingus> Absolutely nothing I can do thiebaude?
[15:03] <genii> noelferreira: Does output of: iconv -l         show 8859 as a type it knows about?
[15:03] <loneone> can anyone help me about huawei 3g modem usb stick I cant install it properly pm me pls
[15:03] <thiebaude> chingus, im not sure, but i had to edit my xorg.conf to fix my problem
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> loneone: run: lsusb     you will get an 8 character hex code, websearch it and you will find guides
[15:04] <chingus> How did you do it?
[15:04] <thiebaude> chingus, does your X freeze?
[15:04] <chingus> nope
[15:04] <thiebaude> ok
[15:04] <loneone> ok I try it now
[15:04] <chingus> Everything works fine but when I try to make it flashy no drivers are found
[15:04] <Halitech> dragonrigs, ok, no way of resizing without reinstalling, you'll need to start looking at whats installed and removing some things
[15:05] <mehedi> why ubuntu can not play any media without installing media plug in?
[15:05] <dragonrigs> oh no
[15:05] <Halitech> chingus, if its not a laptop, buy a new card
 tor wasn't installed currectly for me and the intel graaphic driver is too problematic and not for begginer
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: windows is the same
[15:05] <chingus> can't afford one lol
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: no OS can play media without codecs
[15:05] <dragonrigs> Halitech there is no other way but using wubi to reinstall
[15:05] <dragonrigs> <:_(
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: intel drivers are easy. I have a guide
[15:05] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you can do a real install install of the quasi install that wubi is
[15:05] <noelferreira> genii, iconv -l <filename> gives me all the types available. how can i get the one the file is using?
[15:05] <loneone> I have another problem about this modem there is a program run in windows need to connect usb stick and mobile company to connect me to internet
[15:06] <cornet> mehedi: the *real* answer is due to license restrictions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[15:06] <Halitech> chingus, anything used would still be better then the onboard intel chip
[15:06] <mehedi> its impossile to run ubuntu without interner connection
[15:06] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, any day im ready to put 9.10 on my system
[15:06] <chingus> really, is it that bad?
[15:06] <dragonrigs> Halitech what?
[15:06] <Halitech> mehedi, no its not, just harder
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/reverting-xorg-video-intel-driver-of.html
[15:06] <chingus> thiebaude anythink with the xorg.conf idea?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: you do realise nearly ALL netbooks use crappy intel chips so there are billions of guides on how to set them up
[15:06] <Halitech> dragonrigs, wubi "installs" ubuntu into a file inside windows, if windows goes boom, so does ubuntu
[15:07] <thiebaude> chingus, i can give you what i use, but i will say use at your risk in case it dont work for you
[15:07] <chingus> k,
[15:07] <thiebaude> 1 sec
[15:07] <chingus> I have backup of xorg.conf
[15:07] <arvind_khadri> !pppconfig > arvind_khadri
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: sure, you can run any installed OS with a web connection
[15:07] <chingus> thanks
[15:07] <thiebaude> chingus, open a terminal
[15:07] <thiebaude> np
[15:07] <dragonrigs> so your saying that my windows just went boom Halitech
[15:08] <mehedi> in windows there is no need for downloading any media plug in.but why it is in ubuntu?
[15:08] <Halitech> dragonrigs, no, just saying *IF* windows goes boom then so does Ubuntu
[15:08] <chingus> k terminal open
[15:08] <thiebaude> chingus, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:08] <dragonrigs> Halitech so... how do i fix my problem
[15:08] <chingus> k
[15:08] <dragonrigs> helo my ubuntu has some problems latly i had an update and it needed 157mb and in my disk there is 215 gb and the error mesage told me to do sudo apt-get clean now whenever i go to the applications button. nothing apears but it gets highlighted
 so maybe i need to find a time to install them. but until now i didn't and i don't know how to do it right anyway
[15:08] <Halitech> mehedi, windows still needs to download codecs, just has some base ones installed by default
[15:08] <genii> noelferreira: Sometimes: file -i <filename> will give more specific info, but not guaranteed
[15:09] <jully> http://earthdancemelbourne.org/
[15:09] <thiebaude> chingus, ok, under the video section
[15:09] <Halitech> dragonrigs, I told you, you need to clear space out or reinstall with a true install instead of using wubi
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: thats wat the internet is for
[15:09] <chingus> There is no video section
[15:09] <noelferreira> genii, :( text/plain; charset=unknown
[15:09] <thiebaude> chingus, display
[15:09] <chingus> There is only device monitor and screen
[15:10] <thiebaude> chingus, i wish i could see how your xorg.conf looks like
[15:10] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:10] <chingus> I'll show you
[15:10] <Halitech> mehedi, do a fresh install using an install cd and not a restore cd and see what works out of the box
[15:10] <thiebaude> thanks alot
[15:10] <chingus> Section "Device"
[15:10] <chingus> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[15:10] <chingus> EndSection
[15:10] <chingus> Section "Monitor"
[15:10] <chingus> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[15:10] <chingus> EndSection
[15:10] <FloodBot2> chingus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <_ikke_> is it a big problem if a system upgrade in ubuntu was aborted?
 i can't easily understand how to perform the many ideas in guides
[15:10] <dragonrigs> Halitech so i remove windows COMPLETLY but what happens if the real install doesnt work
[15:10] <genii> noelferreira: It's apparently an unknown character set then
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech how do i exit from ubuntu live cd
[15:11] <thiebaude> chingus, right under configured video device
[15:11] <Halitech> dragonrigs, you don't need to remove windows completely, you can dual boot
[15:11] <chingus> I am sorry
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: most are step by step, like taht one i gave
[15:11] <chingus> didn't know about flooding
[15:11] <Halitech> dragonrigs, shut down and reboot
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech thats how it gets hard
[15:11] <chingus> yes thiebaude
[15:11] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:11] <mehedi> what is the main benefit of ubuntu?
[15:11] <dragonrigs> Halitech so no need for reinsyall
[15:11] <noelferreira> genii, so how can i convert it to utf-8?
[15:11] <kwork> mehedi,  over what ?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> mehedi |!wait
[15:12] <Halitech> dragonrigs, no but you need to free some room
[15:12] <chingus> thiebaude?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> ok
[15:12] <_ikke_> is it a big problem if a system upgrade in ubuntu was aborted?
[15:12] <dragonrigs> ill do the real install
[15:12] <thiebaude> chingus, add this           Option              "DRI"   "off"
[15:12] <mehedi> over windows
[15:12] <Halitech> mehedi, its free, no viruses, support is free and alot better then MS
[15:12] <chingus> k added
[15:12] <thiebaude> chingus, and save it
[15:12] <chingus> k done
[15:13] <thiebaude> chingus, ok, now just re-boot completely
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> mehedi: its a bit oftopic here
[15:13] <thiebaude> hope it works
 yes but when i've tried many guides i didn't knew what to do. why it's not simple to just make installtions?
[15:13] <IdleOne> thiebaude: DRI is disabled by default in jaunty due to the known intel regression
[15:13] <chingus> After I reboot, should I activate the desktop effects?
[15:13] <dragonrigs> Halitech IF a defect is found while on live cd what will i do
[15:13] <tavelram> (on a single-user system running blackbox) any suggestions on something more lightweight than gdm? xdm? quingy? how stable is quingy?
[15:13] <thiebaude> IdleOne, me adding that fixed my problem with my X freezing
[15:14] <com-8> cwo_bug1L
[15:14] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab
[15:14] <IdleOne> thiebaude: ok just saying
[15:14] <Halitech> dragonrigs, what do you mean?
[15:14] <chingus> thiebaude, once i reboot should that be it?
[15:14] <thiebaude> IdleOne, if i dont add "DRI" then x will freeze
[15:14] <thiebaude> chingus, yes
[15:14] <chingus> k thanks
[15:14] <chingus> cya
[15:14] <chingus> thanks a lot
[15:14] <thiebaude> ok
[15:14] <thiebaude> np
[15:14] <demonspork> does anyone have the "Matrix Rebooted" Iconset, because the original source is missing and I can't find it anywhere else
[15:14] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab --  http://pastebin.com/d27473af
[15:14] <thiebaude> and if it dont work, i tried
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mgv1: because not all systems are identical so you need to work a bit yourself
[15:15] <dpreacher> ActionParsnip hello after long time
[15:15] <genii> noelferreira: If exact coding IS known, with iconv the syntax is like:  iconf -f ISO_8859-1  -t UTF-8 <filename>
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: howdy
[15:15] <Maverixx> #ubuntu-de
[15:15] <dpreacher> ActionParsnip i'm good and you?
[15:15] <thiebaude> IdleOne, i guess thats what i get for a 9yr old graphics card,lol
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> dpreacher: not too shabby at all :)
[15:16] <mehedi> ubuntu has a huge problem. once the screen resolution is being changed,it can not be readjusted without setup!!
 funny. what do you mean by systems? like jaunty or something like that? why there isn't transsystem installations?
[15:16] <IdleOne> mehedi: do you need any help with ubuntu?
[15:16] <mehedi> ya
[15:16] <elops> So?
[15:16] <IdleOne> mehedi: ask a question
[15:16] <Halitech> mehedi, I can change mine easily without rerunning the setup
[15:17] <dpreacher> can someone suggest how to instruct pppd to log to separate files per pppoe connection (we have 2 isp lines coming in, and ubuntu has load balancing the 2 connections) using syslog?
[15:19] <jms1989> hello, quick question. why wouldn't a ubuntu system auto mount a usb drive? would could cause it?
[15:19] <dsdeiz> anyone here with debian experience?
[15:19] <MeGa> hey guys is there program for linux that work like Microsoft C++?
[15:19] <elops> a mount keeps being added to my mtab file, any idea why this might be? i may have added something somewhere a while back that did this, but i cant remember where... it is not in fstab --  http://pastebin.com/d27473af
[15:20] <IdleOne> dsdeiz: #debian
 i couldn't succed with the guide
[15:22] <kudi1> whats a god cd bruner program
[15:22] <Halitech> kudi1, k3b
[15:22] <thiebaude> !burn
[15:22] <kudi1> thanks
[15:25] <librenes> dpreacher-> just an idea, if you are familiar with iptables, you can mark and direct the log per interface basis..
[15:25] <demonspork> is it still better to install the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia or is the driver from the repository adequate
[15:25] <boscop> I already set opera as my default browser on ubuntu (for speed reasons) but when I double click on a html file in nautilus, it still opens it with firefox. why?
[15:25] <thiebaude> demonspork, repository
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, and html file is considered "the internet" when you set opera to be the default browser, it is just set to handle things like http://www.google.com and such
[15:26] <dpreacher> librenes, currently loadbalancing using shorewall which uses iptables basically. but you're saying that iptables would be logging instead of  pppd? i know which interface is for which isp line...
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, you have to associate the html file with opera separately
[15:26] <boscop> demonspork, each single hmtl file??
[15:26] <demonspork> boscop, no
[15:27] <th3seaw0lf> hi
[15:27] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please.
[15:27] <demonspork> boscop, just the .html extension isn't associated, because setting a default browser just associates URL handle with a particular browser
[15:27] <librenes> dpreacher-> yes, there are hooks within netfilter aka iptables to allow you to mark a packet based on which interface it goes in/out then your rules will log them
[15:27] <demonspork> boscop, but since a .html file isn't a URL, then it is still set top open with firefox
[15:28] <dpreacher> librenes, thanks for the awesome tip. I'll sit with my colleague who has worked on the shorewall setup and get it done.
[15:28] <boscop> demonspork, ok thx
[15:29] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please. can somebody help me please?
[15:29] <librenes> dpreacher-> perhaps you and your friend can write some tutorials on how you got it accomplished? i cant do it myself as i never had two isp providers
[15:29] <thiebaude> chingus, did it work?
[15:29] <boscop> demonspork, and how do I make apps like vlc show up in opening dialogs?
[15:29] <chingus> no :(
[15:29] <thiebaude> ahh man
[15:29] <chingus> but it sped up my computer by a lot
[15:30] <boscop> demonspork, for example opening a stream in opera
[15:30] <chingus> Amazing I was aiming for the effects but this is actually better...
[15:30] <thiebaude> chingus, you trying to compiz?
[15:30] <chingus> But still any more tips?
[15:30] <dpreacher> librenes i see. that'll be some task to achieve then. i'll post my notes somewhere public
[15:30] <thiebaude> use
[15:30] <chingus> I tried Compiz but no help.
[15:31] <thiebaude> chingus, i cant use compiz either
[15:31] <chingus> The desktop thing just doesn't work
[15:31] <chingus> hmmm...
[15:31] <ccole1> good day, using 8.10 as a file server i wrote a shell script to backup the users home directories, i set it as a cron job but it only backs up some users not all, when i run the script manually it works as intended. what could be wrong
[15:31] <chingus> I might actually go with the other person's suggestion, and get a new graphics card
[15:31] <chingus> WEll thanks thiebaude.
[15:31] <thiebaude> chingus, just remember that xorg.conf thing i did
[15:31] <thiebaude> np
[15:31] <librenes> dpreacher yes, its not quite easily done. here is one link that may help   http://www.shorewall.net/traffic_shaping.htm
[15:31] <chingus> Pity the desktop couldn't work but my comps lighting fast now.
[15:32] <thiebaude> chingus, write it down
[15:32] <chingus> What did that function do?
[15:32] <chingus> Write what down?
[15:32] <thiebaude> chingus, yep
[15:32] <Pavlz> end of draft for 802.11n after 7 years :-)
[15:32] <chingus> Oh kk
[15:32] <chingus> Yea...
[15:33] <dpreacher> librenes i agree no less, my friend's i'd admit the more smarter and persistent one, who got the loadbalancing done after some months without a custom kernel or anything
[15:33] <tuxxie> ccole1: output the script to a log file.
[15:33] <chingus> Its saved in and all now, and made back up of that on more than just root...
[15:33] <mgv1> do you maybe know why so many times it takes loads of time to find the right wireless network wireless network while some time it doesn't find it at all?
[15:33] <thiebaude> chingus, cool
[15:33] <ccole1> i did it gives no errors
[15:33] <chingus> well anyway g2g thanks thiebaude
[15:33] <chingus> exit.
[15:33] <thiebaude> chingus, no problem, glad that worked
[15:33] <tuxxie> even when it does not work?
[15:34] <librenes> dpreacher i dont think it requires a special kernel, more of a module within netfilter
[15:34] <ccole1> yeah
[15:34] <tuxxie> use rm -v
[15:34] <dpreacher> oh librenes...i was referring to the load balancing part
[15:34] <dpreacher> which also can be done with or without custom kernel
[15:34] <lotia> hello all. are there any sources from where i can install newer kernels onto jaunty
[15:35] <ccole1> rm -v explain please
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> lotia:  check the PPA repositories perhaps.
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> !ppa
[15:35] <tuxxie> ccole1: man rm
[15:36] <tuxxie> you are using rm to delete the files correct?
[15:36] <tuxxie> !man
[15:36] <th3seaw0lf> I have a dell optiplex gx 240, with AD1885 Integrated Audio. i installed ubuntu 9.04 and im not getting any sound. neither from my speakers nor from my pc speakers, need help please.
[15:36] <ccole1> sorry i know what rm does but i am not removing files
[15:36] <lotia> Dr_Willis: i checked there first. unfortunately the ppa is no longer being used.
[15:37] <ccole1> i am creating a tar archive to backup user files
[15:37] <prince_jammys> ccole1: see if there's any error output in /var/mail/$USER
[15:37] <ccole1> none
[15:37] <eni23> hello guys. i got here a lot of mp3's with mpeg2-layer codec. how can i find them all in bash
[15:37] <demonspork> Hello, I can't figure out how to get my Creative fatal1ty USB headset working in Ubuntu Jaunty. Help
[15:37] <tuxxie> oops?
[15:37] <miranda82> i remember there was a program that would let you sync multiple things, like fspot to picasa, emails to gmail, calendars with gcalendar, rings a bell to anyone?
[15:37] <mgv1> do you maybe know why so many times it takes loads of time to find the right wireless network wireless network while some time it doesn't find it at all?
[15:38] <ccole1> can i post a copy of my script
[15:38] <tuxxie> ccole1: pastin your script
[15:38] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, if its the same as the Dell optiplex I had, its an ISA based sound card and I found it easier to install a PCI sound card
[15:38] <ccole1> #creates a gzip tar file of users home directory and databases
[15:38] <miranda82> conduit is the answer btw...
[15:38] <th3seaw0lf> Hlitech, so what should i do?
[15:38] <th3seaw0lf> get a new soundcard?
[15:38] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, does it show up in lspci?
[15:39] <solos_revenge> hi,
[15:39] <th3seaw0lf> no
[15:39] <solos_revenge> is there a masm dissembler in the masm installer included?
[15:40] <tuxxie> ccole1: is the script running as root? and are there hole dir missing or just a few files?
[15:40] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, then its probably an isa based card which means getting a PCI sound card would be easier
[15:40] <arvind_khadri> solos_revenge, its nasm in linux
[15:40] <ccole1> i put it as a cron job sudo crontab -e
[15:40] <solos_revenge> yes but im talking about masm
[15:41] <ccole1> of the 8 directories it copies 2 when run as a cron
[15:41] <th3seaw0lf> Halitech, now soundcard then? ok :/
[15:41] <solos_revenge> its a different syntax isnt it?
[15:41] <demonspork> !hello
[15:41] <brot_> hi, can anyone help me with a PAM problem?
[15:42] <prince_jammys> ccole1: use the pastebin
[15:42] <prince_jammys> !pastebin | ccole1 : nothing got pasted here
[15:42] <th3seaw0lf> there is a 4 line code i have to type in terminal now and again, can i make an executable or smthng so those 4 lines are executed with a single click?
[15:42] <grawity> th3seaw0lf: Make a shell script
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> grawity, i dont know how to
[15:43] <Halitech> th3seaw0lf, there is info here (older though so may not work) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156334 and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetupSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%29
[15:43] <tuxxie> ccole1: your command looks like #tar cvfz tar.tar /home/
[15:43] <grawity> th3seaw0lf: 1) Open a text editor. 2) Type #!/bin/bash as the first line. 3) Type the rest of your commands. 4) Save. 5) In terminal, chmod +x yourscript.
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> ok, thanks grawity
[15:43] <th3seaw0lf> thanks Halitech :)
[15:44] <solos_revenge> well ollydbg does well
[15:44] <ccole1> yeah, i'm just paranoid about backups so i do a piece at a time and test each part
[15:45] <brot_> i have a stack of modules in order auth required pam_env,auth required pam_tally,auth sufficient pam_unix.so ... this is effectively rendering my authentication useless ...
[15:45] <brot_> i want to know why
[15:45] <brot_> can anyone help?
[15:46] <lars2> !help > lars2
[15:46] <brot_> if i change pam_unix.so back to "required" ... everything is working ok
[15:47] <tuxxie> ccole1:  please pastin your script so i can look at it.
[15:47] <jiohdi> why do some programs run by name and others require ./ to run them?
[15:48] <brot_> jiohdi: if they are in the PATH you dont need the ./
[15:48] <ccole1> pasted
[15:48] <tuxxie> jiohdi: some are in your path.
[15:48] <grawity> jiohdi: There's an environment variable $PATH that contains a list of directories where to search for programs if you don't specify a path.
[15:48] <brot_> jiohdi: otherwise you will need the ./
[15:48] <tuxxie> where is the link?
[15:48] <grawity> jiohdi: For example, 'ls' is in /bin, and /bin is in $PATH, so you only type 'ls'
[15:48] <jiohdi> grawity: in what path?
[15:49] <grawity> jiohdi: echo "$PATH"
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> !path
[15:49] <brot_> jiohdi: try e.g. "which echo" and then "echo ${PATH}"
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> jiohdi:  your 'current' directory is normally not on your PATH  unlike windows where it normally IS searched first.
[15:50] <brot_> jiohdi: you will find /bin in the list of directories
[15:50] <jiohdi> I get you... mostly bin folders
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Bash Basics :)
[15:50] <grawity> grawity@insanity ~/Projects$ echo $PATH
[15:50] <grawity> ~/.bin:~/.local/bin:~/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games
[15:50] <grawity> jiohdi: And if you want to run a program that is not in $PATH, you need to specify the full path.
[15:51] <jiohdi> or be in that directory
[15:51] <_ikke_> Dr_Willis: Thats the most satisfying answer
[15:51] <ccole1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271497/
[15:51] <grawity> jiohdi: No, the current directory is never in $PATH by default.
[15:51] <grawity> jiohdi: ./someprogram means "run someprogram from the current directory"
[15:51] <jiohdi> I meant in the directory of the program
[15:52] <grawity> If you're in the directory of the program, you _still_ need to specify the full path to the program.
[15:52] <brot_> anyone knows about some detailed PAM documentation?
[15:52] <monne> When I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 from live pendrive, its giving unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda FATAL ERROR
[15:52] <monne> I tried other partitions, same error
[15:52] <jiohdi> grawity... I just did ./uninstall from within the google-earth dir and did not need to specify anything more
[15:52] <grawity> jiohdi: But you did specify the path - by using ./
[15:53] <grawity> jiohdi: "." means the current directory, and ./uninstall means a file "uninstall" in the current directory.
[15:53] <jiohdi> ah I c
[15:53] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:54] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:54] <monne> Has anybody with a similar problem?
[15:54] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:55] <mohanohi> hi..
[15:55] <monne> Unable to install GRUB, FATAL ERROR whiile installing jaunty from Pendrive
[15:55] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:55] <mohanohi> a software is asking for libpython.2.6.so, But the file is in /usr/lib path.. But it isn't looking there..
[15:55] <adalal> monne: make sure the pendrive installation was free from defects
[15:55] <adalal> monne: run a checkdisk on it
[15:55] <mohanohi> how to set path?
[15:56] <brot_> mohanohi: edit your ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
[15:56] <prince_jammys> ccole1: save the date in a variable and use the variable when making the file names. what if the date changes in mid-script?
[15:56] <mohanohi> brot_: ok.. :)
[15:56] <brot_> PATH=${PATH}:/path/to/mydir
[15:56] <brot_> export PATH
[15:56] <monne> adalal, Okay! Let me try
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> Err.. a Library path  is DIFFERNT from the shell PATH for binaries
[15:57] <mohanohi> brot_: thanx :)
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> unless i missread what mohanohi was saying... he needs his lib path.
[15:57] <brot_> Dr_Willis: how to set path
[15:57] <tuxxie> ccole1: on the tar line redirect using only >> to a file and i would use pbzip2 for speed but besure to leave 1 cpu core open.
[15:57] <mgv1> can you tell me how do i able to encrypt files when burning them?
[15:57] <mohanohi> Dr_Willis: yes.. thats the thing.. i need to set the lib path
[15:57] <ackbahr> Hi! I just reinstalled Jaunty 64bits on my computer, and I (that is the user name and password given during setup) am not administrator! What can I do?
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> its LD_PATH i think for libs.. and that dir should allready be in the default LD_PATH
[15:57] <NakidGirl_With_I> Hi All how to install XEN kernel on Jaunty
[15:57] <mgv1> and also, do you know of an active food channel?
[15:57] <legend2440> NakidGirl_With_I: http://mulps.wordpress.com/2009/05/31/install-xen-kernel-on-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-i386/
[15:58] <NakidGirl_With_I> legend2440> Thnanks let me check
[15:59] <mohanohi> Dr_Willis: should i do export LDPATH=:/path/to/mydir ?
[15:59] <ccole1> tuxxie:i am redirecting the 2nd stream ie stderr to the log file
[16:00] <tuxxie> ccole1: yes but not all files backed up. this will give you and idea of what is happing prior to the script stopping.
[16:00] <brot_> mohanohi: sorry ... Dr_willis is right ... you mean LD_PATH ...
[16:00] <ccole1> tuxxie:the problem remains that when i run this script manually sudo ./backup.sh it does all directories, when i put it as a cron job it only does 2
[16:01] <ccole1> tuxxie ok wile try now
[16:01] <yassine_> hello
[16:01] <yassine_> i nedd program convert .nrg to iso
[16:01] <mohanohi> brot_: how to set it?
[16:01] <mohanohi> brot_: should i do export LDPATH=:/path/to/mydir ?
[16:02] <brot_> mohanohi: did you install phyton?
[16:02] <yassine_> i nedd program convert .nrg to .iso
[16:02] <mohanohi> brot_: yeah..
[16:02] <mohanohi> brot_: the file is in /usr/lib folder..
[16:02] <tuxxie> yassine_: http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/16/convert-nero-image-nrg-to-iso9660-iso/
[16:02] <AE-Member973> people
[16:03] <AE-Member973> u play aion?
[16:03] <AE-Member973> xD
[16:03] <Pici> !ot | AE-Member973
[16:03] <AE-Member973> abybody
[16:03] <yassine_> tuxxie , thank you
[16:03] <AE-Member973> this is aion channel
[16:03] <AE-Member973> ?
[16:03] <brot_> mohanohi: find /lib /usr -iname libpython.2.6.so
[16:03] <mohanohi> AE-Member973: no.
[16:03] <tuxxie> !google
[16:03] <brot_> mohanohi: is it present on the system?
[16:04] <mohanohi> brot_: yes it is..
[16:04] <IdleOne> yassine_: nrg2iso in repository
[16:04] <brot_> mohanohi: strange ... yeah then try to add the path to LD_PATH
[16:04] <ubuntux> hi
[16:04] <IdleOne> yassine_: apt-cache search nrg2iso
[16:04] <mohanohi> brot_: how? i am new to this :(
[16:04] <mohanraj> hw to format pendrive
[16:05] <mgv1> can you tell me how do i able to encrypt files when burning them?
[16:05] <murielgodoi> hi all,  I'm trying to set a gconf value as default to all users, but no success. Any Ideas?
[16:05] <mgv1> and also, do you know of an active food channel?
[16:06] <brot_> mohanohi: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/path/to/lib
[16:06] <mgv1> and also, how can i make xchat open links from here? http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=partial&I=food&T=both&N=all&M=min&C=1&PER=15&D=color&Submit=+Go+
[16:06] <brot_> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[16:06] <Pici> mgv1: /msg alis help list    for finding channels, also try #freenode
[16:06] <mohanohi> brot_: thank you :)
[16:06] <tuxxie> mohanohi: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html will help you.
[16:07] <mohanohi> tuxxie: will look through.. thank you :)
 how do i use freenode to find channels?
[16:07] <Pici> mgv1: You're on the freenode irc network, #freenode is the general help channel, maybe they have suggestions
 ok :)
[16:09] <ccole1> tuxxie:i ran it using cron it just ignored the other directories
[16:09] <tuxxie> ccole1: any logs?
[16:11] <ccole1> tuxxie:it just echoed the files and directories being backed up
[16:12] <ndrwc> how can I request a package that's had a bugfix in karmic be backported(?) to jaunty?
[16:12] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. DOes anyone else experience this?
[16:13] <ndrwc> also, how can I request that a package in hardy be synchronised with upstream for some major bugfixes?
[16:13] <dragonrigs> is there a countdown for karmaik
[16:14] <ionut__> Forgot to mention : using Jaunty 64 bit with 2.6.30-020630-generic on a Dell Inspiron 1520 notebok with NVIDIA 8600 M GT video card
[16:14] <roobly_roo> I've installed g++, build-essentials, etc and have been compiling some things from source on Intrepid Ibex.  I came to the realization though, that memcmp (a very basic function) isn't included in /usr/include/stdio.h.  How this could have happened is beyond my ability to reason, but does anyone know a decent means of getting functional C++ libraries in ubunutu?
[16:15] <dragonrigs> helo  is there a countdown for karmic
[16:15] <psalas> si
[16:15] <psalas> y que
[16:15] <ionut__> dragonrigs : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-release-schedule.html
[16:15] <speedball> hello
[16:16] <psalas> hola
[16:16] <psalas> quien habla español?
[16:16] <IdleOne> !es | psalas
[16:16] <dragonrigs> speedball gr8
[16:16] <ndrwc> hrm, I might have to try out alpha 6 on my macbook again, alpha 5 didn't boot :/
[16:17] <Vinceman> why won't VLC play a MOV-file?
[16:17] <dragonrigs> speedball yooho
[16:17] <speedball> lol
[16:18] <mgv2> i've just faild to install an dvd of files because the screen went black and now it says that the disc is empty even though it was in the middle of the copying.
[16:18] <arand> ndrwc: try daily sa well..
[16:18] <Pici> !karmic
[16:18] <yassine_> how do i use nrg2iso?
[16:18] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. Does anyone else experience this?
[16:18] <rashed2020> Karmic will break WHAT?
[16:18] <ndrwc> arand: it's a macbook 5,2 and I've already got acpi=off in jaunty, but it's my main work machine so I can't afford downtime during office hours :/
[16:19] <LjL> itself, rashed2020
[16:19] <yassine_> how do i use nrg2iso?
[16:19] <mgv2> lets say i'm going to install windoes xp over ubuntu running system. i would i be able to do it and be able to boot ubuntu? do i need to first devide the drive again?
[16:19] <ionut__> yassine man nrg2iso
[16:19] <yassine_> ionut___
[16:19] <IdleOne> yassine_: nrg2iso file.nrg file.iso
[16:20] <IdleOne> yassine_: you might need to use sudo
[16:20] <ionut__> ./nrg2iso image.nrg image.iso
[16:21] <ionut__> yassine: http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html
[16:21] <xurxo> This is my problemxurxo@xurxo-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get -y install build-essential ncurses-dev gettext xmlto
[16:21] <xurxo> [sudo] password for xurxo:
[16:21] <xurxo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[16:21] <xurxo> Any suggestions? Thanks!
[16:21] <FloodBot2> xurxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <thiebaude> xurxo, did you run that?
[16:22] <dkurtz> why does update-rc -f <service> remove only remove the links in rc<num>.d and not rcS.d?
[16:22] <LjL> wow, it specifies you have to use sudo now? awesome.
[16:22] <xurxo> thiebude. Yes. I got it off the internet. why?
[16:22] <genii> LjL: Heh, you noticed that too
[16:22] <mads-> Hi. I have a ubuntu live cd which for some reason will not start X. Is it possible with this to install ubuntu over the internet or something? I can boot it up and I have access to tty
[16:23] <thiebaude> xurxo, its telling you to run dpkg
[16:23] <arvind_khadri> !alternate | mads-
[16:23] <mgv2> if i've a bunch of links and i want their htmls, how can i download them all together?
[16:23] <xurxo> how? just type in what it tells me to?
[16:23] <mads-> I am not able to burn any CDs or make any bootable USB disks
[16:24] <Omlet> new game: http://www.clodogame.fr/change_please/8715913/
[16:24] <LjL> xurxo: that would seem like a reasonable option
[16:24] <thiebaude> xurxo, yes in a terminal
[16:24] <DJones> !ot | Omlet
[16:24] <ndrwc> !backport
[16:26] <dkurtz> mgv2, use wget
[16:26] <mgv2> how can i add more sets of sounds to ubuntu?
[16:26] <tuxxie> ccole1: I am not sure what to tell you. I have almost the same script and it works like a charm. sorry :(
[16:26] <ionut__> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.14 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. Does anyone else experience this?
[16:26] <ccole1> tuxxie:thanks
[16:26] <xurxo> xurxo@xurxo-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:26] <xurxo> Setting up flashplugin-installer (10.0.32.18ubuntu0.9.04.1) ...
[16:26] <xurxo> Downloading...
[16:26] <xurxo> --2009-09-15 17:24:58--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_10.0.32.18.orig.tar.gz
[16:26] <xurxo> Resolving archive.canonical.com... 91.189.90.142
[16:26] <FloodBot2> xurxo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <thiebaude> ionut__, have you tried mplayer?
[16:26] <xurxo> Connecting to archive.canonical.com|91.189.90.142|:80... connected.
[16:26] <tuxxie> ccole1: I would ask #bash
[16:28] <IdleOne> !paste | xurxo
[16:28] <[31d1]> is there a seperate channel for talking about karmic?
[16:28] <ionut__> thiebaude the same happens with mplayer (I compilled the lateste version, I used mplayer-mt) but the result is the same - the screen flickers (flicker = desktop background appears intermittently with the video)
[16:28] <DJones> !karmic | [31d1]
[16:28] <[31d1]> aha, thc
[16:29] <xurxo> thiebaude: so, did you see what its doing? maybe you can explain to me why this has to do anything with flashplayer
[16:29] <Krauser_> hi is there a way to reboot a completely hanged up machine using ssh ?
[16:29] <genii> Krauser_: Is the ssh session also locked?
[16:29] <dkurtz> it if's completely hung you probably can't ssh to it
[16:30] <genii> dkurtz: Yes, exactly
[16:30] <Krauser_> is there a way to know wether it is powered on or not ?
  how do i launch it and for which question?
[16:31] <dkurtz> ping?
[16:31] <Krauser_> i cant ping it
[16:31] <Krauser_> it shows reques timed out
[16:31] <dkurtz> then i'd say it's off of the network interface isn't up
[16:31] <dkurtz> s/of/or
[16:31] <dkurtz> mgv2, for retrieving the html from different links
[16:32] <dkurtz> Krauser_, does anyone have physical access to it?
[16:32] <dkurtz> or does it have a service processor?
[16:32] <Krauser_> dkurtz yes employees have
[16:32] <Krauser_> through ssh
[16:32] <Krauser_> its a seperate machine
[16:32] <Krauser_> for game servers
[16:33] <dkurtz> anyone that could tell you it's status of on or off?
[16:33] <icenova> hey guys !
[16:33] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: hey guy!!!
[16:34] <Krauser_> dkurtz is there a programme wich auto restarts a completely hung up machine ?
[16:34] <icenova> xD
[16:34] <icenova> ok
[16:34] <icenova> i need help !
[16:34] <dkurtz> not unless you can access it through an ip kvm
[16:34] <dkurtz> or something separate from the OS
[16:34] <Krauser_> :(
[16:34] <icenova> i bet 153098329 users come here asking the same thing
[16:34] <michLinuxGuy> Krauser: You would need watchdog hardware to do that
[16:35] <icenova> i need help choosing my pc components, but i want them cheap !
[16:35] <Krauser_> sad :(
[16:35] <Trijntje> !ot | icenova
[16:35] <icenova> ?
[16:35] <Myrtti> !hardware | icenova
[16:35] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: What is your budget?
[16:35] <DJones> icenova: You'll probably be better asking in #hardware
[16:35] <classical> hey all :-)
[16:35] <icenova> oh ups
[16:35] <icenova> i thought i was writing on that chanel LOL
[16:35] <icenova> sorry
[16:35] <icenova> xD
[16:36] <n-iCe> hi
[16:36] <icenova> michLinuxGuy, 250 €
[16:36] <classical> i have ubuntu 9.04
[16:36] <icenova> but ok, i'll move to that channel
[16:36] <classical> and it's work very slow
[16:36] <icenova> thanks anyway !
[16:36] <classical> what is problem ?  :s
[16:37] <crescendo> o/
[16:38] <nanotube> !hi | crescendo
[16:38] <ndrwc> alright, reading the backports info is rather confusing... if a package exists in jaunty and a fix will be released in karmic, does that mean that the relevant fix should appear in backports or updates? how do I request <whatever> needs to happen?
[16:40] <crescendo> I'm trying to resize (shrink) a LUKS partition, but all the tutorials I can find are over a year old, and some commands are failing. Can I solicit some remote-access help from someone? :P
[16:40] <icenova> no one helps me there :(
[16:41] <michLinuxGuy> icenova: I find I can buy a pre-built machine cheaper than building one.
[16:41] <icenova> really ?
[16:41] <icenova> but i just need some of the parts
[16:41] <michLinuxGuy> I bought an e-machines box at costco with an LCD monitor for $400 (US).
[16:42] <avoozl> I'm getting bitten by 'Corrupted MAC on input' when transferring large files over ssh, the symtpoms seem to correspond to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/60764 but for me the workaround to disable rx/tx checksumming through ethtool does not work
[16:42] <avoozl> somehow ethtool -K eth0 tx off  does not give any errors but still keeps the setting 'on'
[16:42] <dajhorn> ndrwc: Not always.   If it is something important, you could try "nominating" the package at Launchpad.
[16:43] <eni23> for get lame running faster i need fast cpu or more ram?
[16:43] <icenova> cpu
[16:43] <avoozl> [oh and my network card is a nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)]
[16:43] <eni23> it's really 'lame' on a atom server
[16:43] <eni23> thanks
[16:44] <ndrwc> dajhorn: as in "nominate for release"? ok, I'll see what happens...
[16:44] <monlam> SCP stalls when i try to transfer files between my Ubuntu & #Crunchbang system using Wireless card. Ethernet works fine-- Any hints?
[16:44] <eni23> is lame support server-cpu's?
[16:44] <ndrwc> dajhorn: sorry, is that from the bug report or the package?
[16:44] <Krauser_> how to secure SSH against hackers ?
[16:45] <eni23> ﻿Krauser_: really
[16:45] <dragonrigs> helo
[16:45] <dajhorn> ndrwc: Look for an appropriate "nominate for release foo" button at the bug page.  Give a good reason for a backport if you do this.
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <dragonrigs> lo
[16:45] <FloodBot2> dragonrigs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:45] <ndrwc> Krauser_: pull out the network cable :P don't have a root login, have strong passwords
[16:45] <eni23> when you have a secure pw/aut-keys
[16:45] <Krauser_> ndrwc, :) it has to have root
[16:45] <Krauser_> 2nd option
[16:46] <Krauser_> passwords aer strong >16 letters including caps small number symbols
[16:46] <genii> Krauser_: A few tactics ... use a strong password.... don't run it on port 22 .... limit login attempts to 3 or less .... don't allow root login by ssh
[16:46] <ndrwc> Krauser_: what, root login in ubuntu? that's silly
[16:46] <avoozl> and run something like sshdfilter
[16:46] <eni23> why not aut ssh with keys. that's much more saver
[16:46] <ndrwc> dajhorn: um.... ok I hit nominate, selected jaunty, submitted and... I'm lost :(
[16:47] <Krauser_> eni23, can u give a link to wich explains how to use key system ?
[16:47] <dajhorn> ndrwc: If you're unfamiliar with this, then find the package page, and open a question instead.
[16:48] <eni23> i only know a link in german. wait, i search something
[16:48] <Krauser_> eni23, english only please :-S
[16:48] <dajhorn> ndrwc: https://answers.launchpad.net/
[16:48] <ndrwc> dajhorn: yes, I'm very unfamiliar with launchpad. There didn't seem to be a comment box
[16:50] <eni23> ﻿Krauser_: http://www.debuntu.org/ssh-key-based-authentication
[16:50] <ndrwc> "help with launchpad" is not the same thing as "help with the red tape" :/
[16:50] <eni23> ^^ it's english
[16:52] <gladiator> hi .. i am trying to setup mysql on my system .. i installed mysql client and mysql server packages ... but i am getting "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" when i try to do mysql -u root
[16:52] <gladiator> any suggestions?
[16:52] <nicolah> hi guys, how do I reach "smb://supermachine/c/" using the terminal ? "cd smb://supermachine/c/" doesn't work
[16:52] <moncky> gladiator: have you started the server? /etc/initd.d/mysqld start
[16:53] <monitor> oi
[16:53] <Krauser_> eni23, thanx for that
[16:53] <monitor> FOCK ALL
[16:53] <Josh_> nicolah, smb:// is a samba protocol. You'll need to connect to your 'supermachine' with samba
[16:54] <monitor> samba yer
[16:54] <monitor> merda
[16:54] <ndrwc> nicolah: smbclient, smbget etc.
[16:54] <monitor> puta que pario
[16:54] <monitor> sua mãe
[16:54] <gladiator> moncky: yes. it fails
[16:54] <genii> nicolah: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/net-admin/ch08s02.html
[16:54] <monitor> otario
[16:54] <monitor> idiota
[16:54] <FloodBot2> monitor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <monitor> meu pau
[16:54] <sipior> monitor: you off your meds?
[16:54] <moncky> gladiator: it fails to start? what do the logs say?
[16:55] <gladiator> moncky: /var/log/mysql.log and /var/log/mysql.err are both empty
[16:55] <mads-> Hi. I have a ubuntu live cd which for some reason will not start X. Is it possible with this to install ubuntu over the internet or something? I can boot it up and I have access to tty. I am not able to make anymore CDs or USB disks
[16:55] <moncky> gladiator: what about /var/log/messages
[16:55] <Beefcaked> hi guys maybe you can help me.... ubuntu is using more power in this laptop than vista had
[16:55] <eni23> ﻿gladiator: what says /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[16:56] <hporse> hi. i've got a fresh kubuntu installation here and the first thing i recognize is, that the keyboard is broken under X, but not in the tty consoles. any idea how i could fix this?
[16:56] <gladiator> eni23: nothing there either..
[16:56] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: install and run powertop
[16:56] <abys> hi somebody who can help me with css that crashes when i use wine
[16:56] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> From time to time, my computer will freeze up and the capslock light will blink on and off.  Sometimes the screen will blank, sometimes not.  I can find no pattern in when it occurs.
[16:56] <monne> Can anybody tell me how to dial a DSL connection from while using WLAN in Ubuntu?
[16:56] <geekaia> I'm have some problems to install nvidia driver on kernel 2.6.31
[16:56] <Trijntje> mads: I think its better to fix X before installing ubuntu. Otherwise it wont work anyway
[16:56] <monne> I can only dial DSL from Wired and not from Wireless
[16:56] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: thank you. does ubuntu have something like hardware profiling in windows where in i can set to a hardware profile where some of my devices are disabled?
[16:56] <geekaia>  I have runned the nvidia installer  ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run
[16:56] <bastid_raZor> Spkr2Cmputrs_: i believe that is a kernel panic
[16:56] <geekaia>  and it has returned to me
[16:57] <gladiator> moncky, eni23: is there a way to completely uninstall and reinstall mysql again? i tried apt get purge but that doesnt seem to remove all the data either...
[16:57] <ndrwc> geekaia: you have restricted kernel modules?
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: it is easier to install them from the nvidia-vdpau ppa
[16:57] <geekaia> some erros
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: then it is packages
[16:57] <Spkr2Cmputrs_> What is a kernel panic?
[16:57] <avoozl> geekaia: packaged even
[16:57] <nicolah> thanks
[16:57] <eni23> ﻿gladiator: have you tried to stop mysql via init.d
[16:57] <eni23> ?
[16:57] <Beefcaked> Spkr2Cmputrs_: i dont know exactly, but the kernel is an integral part of the operating system... so it panicking must be really bad
[16:58] <moncky> gladiator: apt-get remove <package>
[16:58] <nameless|> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu 8.03 i386 server edition. I can get to the ubuntu boot screen with the options to install, check the cd and memory, etc... When I select install it takes me to a language selection screen and my system seems to freeze up. I can't select anything
[16:58] <gladiator> eni23: stop says [OK] start says [fail]
[16:58] <geekaia> my log files apears as :
[16:58] <geekaia> ERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for the library
[16:58] <geekaia>        'libnvidia-tls.so.185.18.36' (expected:
[16:58] <geekaia>        '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found:
[16:58] <geekaia>        '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1
[16:58] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: I'm not sure. btw, the changes powertop makes don't last, so you have to keep it running
[16:58] <FloodBot2> geekaia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <hporse> a
[16:59] <icenova> hey guys btw
[16:59] <LouisT> Hi, can someone help me fix a nvidia driver error? when ever i start up, it gives an error and needs to use the "low graphics mode", and i looked at the error and it says it's unable to load the kernel module.. but, when i try to install nvidia drivers, it always goes to xorg failsafe.. but when i 1st installed the driver, all it showed was a little line with the ubuntu background colours at the top, and when i moved my mouse i could see it some
[16:59] <eni23> ﻿gladiator: ls -la /﻿var/run/mysqld/ ? what files you see and what rigths
[16:59] <eni23> ?
[16:59] <bastid_raZor> geekaia: you should be install the nvidia driver from a TTY while X has been stopped.
[16:59] <icenova> on my mac g5, with os x 10.4, when i insert my frozen throne cd and open it, it says missing string 1059
[16:59] <icenova> what is that ?
[16:59] <geekaia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271533/
[16:59] <miranda82> hey guys, anyone knows how to completely CLEAR my whole evolution calendar?
[17:00] <geekaia> Yes
[17:00] <nameless|> I seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu 8.03 i386 server edition. I can get to the ubuntu boot screen with the options to install, check the cd and memory, etc... When I select install it takes me to a language selection screen and my system seems to freeze up. I can't select anything
[17:00] <geirha> nameless|: Can't remember how the server install looks, but in the typical TUI interfaces you use the tab key to move between boxes and buttons
[17:00] <geekaia> I was tried this
[17:00] <bastid_raZor> icenova: that has nothing to do with #ubuntu.
[17:00] <ndrwc> LouisT: what's your hardware? I had that problem on my laptop, BIOS was mapping the video memory incorrectly
[17:00] <gladiator> eni23: no such directory
[17:00] <nameless|> geirha: yeah, I tried that and it didn't work. It's like my system stopped recognizing my keyboard?
[17:00] <eni23> oh..
[17:00] <mgmuscari> i need some GENERAL computer help - it isn't ubuntu related but my nice $2000 thinkpad running ubuntu has succumbed to the stupid flea infestation that i arrived to when i moved into a house for school... does anybody know what might be a good solution? i apologize for the off-topic question but maybe i can answer an ubuntu question for someone while i'm here
[17:00] <geekaia> but it was returned to me http://paste.ubuntu.com/271533/
[17:01] <LouisT> ndrwc: it's a desktop, but what kind of info do you need?
[17:01] <geekaia> after an apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:01] <geekaia> anyone
[17:01] <icenova> bastid_raZor, your right srry, but they cant help me on mac channel T_T
[17:01] <geekaia> know how to solve this problem
[17:01] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: ive installed powertop through synaptic... how do i use this?
[17:01] <geekaia> ??
[17:01] <ndrwc> LouisT: I have no idea :P but gpu info, drivers version
[17:01] <Myrtti> !helpme | geekaia
[17:01] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: run sudo powertop in a !terminal
[17:01] <eni23> ﻿gladiator: your mysql installation really looks weird.
[17:02] <mgmuscari> geekaia - i'm guessing you've checked your system for third-party opengl packages...
[17:02] <geirha> nameless|: Does the leds toggle if you hit Caps lock/Scroll lock? Does alt+F2 work?
[17:02] <gladiator> eni23: no sorry .. drwxr-xr-x  2 mysql root and ...  drwxr-xr-x 23 root  root
[17:02] <Beefcaked> a ! terminal? did you mean to put ! before terminal because it should mean something different?
[17:02] <nameless|> geirha: I didn't try those, but the num lock led did not toggle
[17:02] <LouisT> ndrwc: i have a failsafeX-backup file, i assume it has the errors in it..
[17:02] <geekaia> what is the packages what i need to install?
[17:02] <ndrwc> !terminal | Beefcaked
[17:02] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: no, just terminal ;) But if you type !terminal here the ubottu bot will tell you where to find it.
[17:02] <ndrwc> ... like that :)
[17:02] <LouisT> how would i get the GPU info, ndrwc?
[17:03] <geirha> nameless|: Then it seems it doesn't handle the keyboard, indeed. Is it usb or ps2?
[17:03] <ndrwc> LouisT: ... what model card is it, if you know?
[17:03] <eni23> ﻿gladiator: try to start mysql and watch this directory
[17:03] <Trijntje> ndrwc: nice teamwork ;)
[17:03] <gladiator> eni23: sorry again .. these are just directory navigation directories :S
[17:03] <mgmuscari> geekaia: the install script is failing because it's suggesting that you have some conflicting libraries
[17:03] <Beefcaked> oh okay, lol, that confused me. im new to linux so i thought running sudo powertop in a terminal with a ! meant something else, haha
[17:03] <LouisT> no idea, ndrwc
[17:03] <bastid_raZor> LouisT: lscpi | grep VGA
[17:03] <nameless|> geirha: it is PS2. It works fine before it gets to the actual install part
[17:03] <mgmuscari> geekaia: run synaptic and search for opengl, make sure you don't have any third-party packages selected, and if you do, do a remove completely on them. then try your driver install again
[17:03] <ndrwc> hrm, I find it hard to remember things this early
[17:04] <LouisT> bastid_raZor: bash: lscpi: command not found
[17:04] <ndrwc> LouisT: try lspci
[17:04] <bastid_raZor> LouisT: i typoed.. lspci
[17:04] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: i have it running and i enabled the USB auto suspend. its reporting that an i915@pci is topping the interrupt list. of course.. keyboard and mouse
[17:04] <mgmuscari> anybody have any ideas for laptop flea control that won't void my warrant? :D
[17:04] <mgmuscari> warranty, that is
[17:04] <adalal> laptop flea?
[17:04] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: define fleas
[17:04] <avoozl> hm it seems that when i use a 2.6.31 kernel, i can work around the mac errors by using ethtool -K eth0 tx off rx off     .. now that is kind of strange isn't it.. it would almost seem like a nasty driver bug in the checksum offloading
[17:04] <geirha> nameless|: Hm. ps2 keyboards are "rock solid" in linux by my experience, so maybe it's not the keyboard after all, but a kernel freeze. Might be you need to supply some boot options. Not sure where to begin though
[17:05] <LouisT> ndrwc: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
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[17:05] <Lartza_> Anyone experienced with icecast?
[17:05] <geekaia> I go try this
[17:05] <hrab> Anyone got any prospects on when flash won't won't be a complete turd in buntu?
[17:05] <mgmuscari> adalal: i moved into a house with 3 cats, and lo and behold, the girl that moved out of the room i moved into left a terrible flea infestation that has spread to my laptop and desktop. i don't care about the desktop so much but my thinkpad is still very new :'(
[17:05] <Lartza_> I need help with couple of stuff, first how do I change the server stats, admin, location etc.
[17:05] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: that your graphic card i think, 3D effects
[17:05] <Lartza_> Second why are my client_connections and connections rising all the time
[17:05] <adalal> mgmuscari: oh, so literally a flea
[17:05] <nameless|> geirha: lol, neither do I. I don't know what I did different (I don't think I did anything different) but it's working now (I went to check the LED's and they responded this time)
[17:06] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: you can google it to see how to disble it, lots of people have that
[17:06] <mgmuscari> adalal: yes, lol
[17:06] <nameless|> I think it's just time for a newer system
[17:06] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: mmm. i have aero on vista on all the time but it still lasts so much longer. 1:30hours on vista but only 30 minutes on ubuntu.
[17:06] <mgmuscari> adalal: i think these are OSS fleas. maybe the girl installed them in the house through an unauthenticated apt repository
[17:06] <Beefcaked> its weird because i had the idea that ubuntu would be less intensive on the system and therefore outlast vista in power savings
[17:06] <geirha> nameless|: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[17:06] <avoozl> hm no i stand corrected.. it just took a little longer for the errors to occur :(
[17:06] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: soak it in isopropyl alcohol? :P
[17:06] <Lartza_> !icecast
[17:06] <avoozl> bah this means i can't use this machine at all
[17:06] <Lartza_> !icecast2
[17:07] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: i'm not sure, it might be a buggy driver. How many cpu states can you see in powertop?
[17:07] <mgmuscari> man, that sounds like it'll void my warranty...
[17:07] <nameless|> geirha: thanks
[17:07] <sicks> mgmuscari:  dont worry about fleas in your computers unless you cool them with blood, kill them everywhere else and the computer fleas will die off.
[17:07] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: or seal it in a plastic bag and use a strong vacuum pump
[17:07] <Pici> !ot
[17:07] <mgmuscari> sicks: thanks. dealt with this before?
[17:07] <geirha> nameless|: working, you mean you can select languages now?
[17:07] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: also a good idea
[17:07] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: sorry, i dont know what a cpu state is?
[17:07] <shos> ooh, there are bubbles in my bowels
[17:07] <shos> sry wrong window :p
[17:07] <ChrizC> hey - I'm guessing there's atleast one person in here who uses Pidgin on Ubuntu. Whenever I sign into MSN, I get between 15 and 20 messages saying "MSN Error: Friendly Name Changes Too Fast." how do I stop that? (I know it's not exactly Ubuntu-related but I don't think pidgin has a support channel this large)
[17:08] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: however I would suggest apt-get remove cat && apt-get install fleapowder :P
[17:08] <adalal> mgmuscari: like the other person said, jus clear it off everywhere else..
[17:08] <nameless|> geirha: yes
[17:08] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: thats how fast your cpu is working, C1 is full speed, C4 is low speed. Low speed uses little power.
[17:08] <adalal> mgmuscari: it's like pollution.. the solution to pollution is diffusion :P
[17:08] <geirha> nameless|: Must be the positive energy flowing out from #ubuntu
[17:08] <nameless|> geirha: but I'm running into errors about no kernel modules being on the cd or something
[17:08] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: i wish! terminix is coming tomorrow... i hear that the stuff is bad for plastic/electronics so i don't want to leave it to be bombed. anyway, thanks for the advice. i'll drop the topic so that i don't get OT'd again
[17:09] <LouisT> ndrwc: did you see my last message?
[17:09] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: im using a celeron. I have c0 (cpu running), another c0 and c1, c2, c3 on (mwait running0
[17:09] <ndrwc> LouisT: yes... so a 6100, as in, old?
[17:09] <LouisT> yea
[17:09] <Beefcaked> err, just mwait, no 'running'
[17:09] <mgmuscari> anybody here running a 1920x1200 display?
[17:10] <Trijntje> Beefcaked: if you dont see C4 somewhere in the powertop screen you should be able to enable these options in you bios. I have to go now, googling ubuntu powertop should give you a lot of information
[17:10] <miranda82> hey guys, anyone knows how to completely CLEAR my whole evolution calendar?
[17:10] <LouisT> ndrwc: any idea on what i should do? =/
[17:10] <ndrwc> LouisT: I have a similar-ish card somewhere....
[17:10] <Lartza_> mgmuscari, not me but why do you ask?
[17:10] <geirha> nameless|: Does it halt the installer? or is it just warnings passing by?
[17:11] <ndrwc> LouisT: ok I have a 6200, seems to work ok
[17:11] <miranda82> answer is: rm ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
[17:11] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: btw.. im currently doing everything powertop asks me to do. the thing you said earlier.. do you mean i have to do this stuff again so i save power the next time?
[17:11] <mgmuscari> i am plagued by a graphically corrupted usplash whenever i boot my pc and try to use 1920x1200 (native) resolution for it
[17:11] <nameless|> geirha: it gives me an option to continue install without loading kernel modules and then gives me an error about not detecting network interface stuff
[17:11] <cheftux> anyone using itunes with ubuntu? i could use some help
[17:11] <Beefcaked> Trijntje: oh okay, thank you very much, i appreciate the help!:)
[17:12] <Vinceman> how do you activate xine in mozilla firefox?
[17:12] <mgmuscari> cheftux: why are you trying to use itunes with ubuntu? are you running it through wine or something?
[17:12] <Lartza_> mgmuscati: Stretched?
[17:12] <cheftux> attempting to mgmuscari but its not working
[17:12] <nameless|> geirha: it fails the step Detec network hardware
[17:12] <Lartza_> cheftux: Don't use iTunes
[17:12] <cheftux> i've tried wine, and using sun virtualbox
[17:12] <mgmuscari> yes, but not gracefully. instead of scaling the splash screen, it repeats bits of it in choppy vertical stripes
[17:12] <jshultz> virtualbox is better
[17:12] <cheftux> i have an iphone and i need to sync with itunes, unless you know another way
[17:12] <mgmuscari> looks kind of like 'uu b unn tu'
[17:13] <jshultz> i wouldn't play music from itunes via VB.
[17:13] <Lartza_> jshultz: FOr what?
[17:13] <jshultz> use banshee isntead
[17:13] <LouisT> ndrwc: the thing is, it worked when i used ubuntu 8.04, but then i upgraded to 8.10 and then it started doing that, so i installed the newest drivers from nvidia using the .run they have, and it made it start using the failsafe, so then i downloaded and burned a copy of ubuntu 9.04 and installed it, and then it said to install the nvidia drivers using the "Hardware Drivers" program, i did that and it started doing the line thing again..
[17:13] <geirha> nameless|: Ok, so it's unable to find a driver for your network card then. Do you know what network card(s) it has?
[17:13] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: Hmmm...
[17:13] <mgmuscari> cheftux, there's some rudimentary support in other packages i believe... although i never sync my iphone period because i have it jailbroken :p
[17:13] <ndrwc> LouisT: uhh....
[17:13] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: Jaunty I assume?
[17:13] <cheftux> if i use banshee will it sync my iphone like in tunes and i really don't want to jailbreak my phone
[17:13] <jshultz> no
[17:14] <nameless|> geirha: it's part of the mobo. Not sure what model it is. Whatever they put in the HP Pavilion a1130n
[17:14] <hrab> Is there a way to turn off the xxxx has joined/left notifications in Konversation?
[17:14] <ndrwc> ok, if anyone can tell me how to work out what version of the nvidia drivers i have via cli..
[17:14] <cheftux> see the whole point of itunes is getting my music off my old account and transfering it onto the new computer
[17:14] <mgmuscari> cheftux: you don't have to jailbreak it, i'm just saying that i don't bother using any sync features that can't be done OTA
[17:14] <icarus> so i just deleted a lot of files how do i get them back?
[17:14] <mgmuscari> cheftux: i hope that the music isn't music you bought through the itunes store... DRM sucks
[17:15] <jshultz> here's what i did, and it's a crappy solution. my music is hosted locally. i have a vm with a stripped down winxp that i use for itunes and adobe cs4. itunes runs like crap in a vm though for some reason. but anyway, it pulls the music via a shared folder through vb. it syncs with with my ipod that way.
[17:15] <ndrwc> hrm
[17:15] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: You can buy them DRM free though
[17:15] <Lartza_> idjc
[17:15] <mgmuscari> icarus: check your trash...
[17:15] <Lartza_> Woops
[17:15] <jshultz> i have the 3.1 firmware which apparently hasnt' been jailbroken yet.
[17:15] <cheftux> lol least it works though
[17:15] <mgmuscari> lartza_: well, not everything. unless they've changed it recently... i haven't used it in a while...
[17:15] <cheftux> thanks guys!
[17:15] <Vinceman> does anyone ever play MOV-files on there linux system?
[17:15] <Vinceman> their*
[17:15] <ndrwc> LouisT: I assume that I have 180, on a 6200
[17:15] <LouisT> ndrwc: i can see mine in /var/log/nvidia-installer.log, but idk if that helps
[17:16] <Lartza_> mgmuscari: iTunes Plus, you can even convert your DRM songs to DRM free
[17:16] <LouisT> ndrwc: well, when i installed using "Hardware Drivers", it installed 180... =/
[17:16] <geirha> nameless|: Hm. Google or the manual might know. I don't :)
[17:16] <ndrwc> LouisT: I think I've just been able to put them in via the restricted hardware drivers app
[17:16] <icarus> mgmuscari, i wish it was that simple but the files are not there due to the files being on a portable device when they were deleted
[17:16] <mgmuscari> that's a step in the right direction
[17:17] <mgmuscari> icarus: check the trash on the device. depends on the filesystem of the device
[17:17] <mgmuscari> you could unmount it
[17:17] <nameless|> geirha: MSI MS-7093
[17:17] <Lartza_> icarus: YOu mgiht not get them back
[17:17] <mgmuscari> then mount it as read only. that way you won't risk overwriting things that are still there
[17:17] <LouisT> ndrwc: when i go into that, it says i have 180, it's acivated, and currently in use...
[17:18] <ndrwc> LouisT: it's difficult to track down the problem unless you can find someone who's had the same symptoms and described in a way you're searching for
[17:18] <icarus> i cant find the trash folder
[17:18] <LouisT> yea, i've asked others that i know about it, but they have no idea =/
[17:18] <ndrwc> mine was that I needed to do a bios update, highly obscure bug specific to my laptop model
[17:18] <aaron11> speedball
[17:19] <ndrwc> LouisT: oh, is this onboard?
[17:19] <n-iCe> i want to make my external vga port a separate tty on my laptop and redirect xbmc
[17:19] <LouisT> ndrwc: what do you mean?
[17:19] <Sp0tter> Is it possible to use a dual head setup that uses a monitor from both an nvidia card and one from an ATI card as a multiview setup using xrandr?
[17:19] <n-iCe> i'm not sure how to make the external port a separate tty, or how to redirect xbmc's output
[17:19] <n-iCe> xbmc: rtfm
[17:19] <n-iCe> tty: googled, no luck
[17:19] <ndrwc> LouisT: as in, on the motherboard or PCI/AGP/whatever expansion card?
[17:19] <mgmuscari> sp0tter, you're running both of those in the same box?
[17:19] <jonne> does anyone know why skype would start up twice without being in startup applications?
[17:19] <LouisT> yea
[17:19] <jonne> and session saving is off
[17:20] <ndrwc> LouisT: yes which? :)
[17:20] <aaron11> does anyone know why my application menu is wiped out
[17:20] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yes
[17:20] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: and you don't have any trouble running both of those kernel modules?
[17:20] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, I'm asking if its possible, i havent bought the 2nd card yet
[17:21] <LouisT> i assume the motherboard, on the from of the tower it says it has a PCI expansion slot however
[17:21] <Sp0tter> thinking of getting this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121320
[17:21] <icarus> so how do i recover my files?
[17:21] <Sp0tter> I just wish I knew if you could use the hdmi and dvi out at the same tiem on that one
[17:21] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: i myself would never even attempt to run such a setup, considering how hard it is to even get fglrx working correctly...
[17:21] <keith_hanson> hm... any macbook users here? I'm using the AwesomeWM, and can't seem to get my audio to work.
[17:21] <n-iCe> i want to make my external vga port a separate tty on my laptop and redirect xbmc
[17:21] <mgmuscari> why would you buy a second graphics card from a different vendor?
[17:21] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari,  It's not hard at all to get fglrx working..
[17:21] <n-iCe> i'm not sure how to make the external port a separate tty, or how to redirect xbmc's output
[17:21] <n-iCe> xbmc: rtfm
[17:21] <n-iCe> tty: googled, no luck
[17:21] <ndrwc> LouisT: ok, might be best to do some more searching for "nividia", "linux", "6100", and your motherboard :(
[17:21] <FloodBot2> n-iCe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, because nvidia cards support CUDA
[17:22] <Grenage> fglrx is incredibly tempremental.
[17:22] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: depends on what your graphics chipset is... takes some finagling to get things running correctly on my laptop, for example
[17:22] <ndrwc> keith_hanson: which revision?
[17:22] <Sp0tter> fglrx works fine for me, but with my motherboard you can only use dvi OR hdmi out, and I need dual digital outputs
[17:22] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: so why don't you ditch the ati card?
[17:22] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, its onboard.. and free to use
[17:23] <mgmuscari> disable it and buy a card with two dvi ports
[17:23] <Grenage> Dual port Nvidia not an option?
[17:23] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, you are not helpful at all :)
[17:23] <gladiator> moncky, eni23: i removed everything named mysql and reinstalled both server and client
[17:23] <mgmuscari> i guess you're looking for the xTreme budget solution
[17:23] <Sp0tter> Grenage, Id' like to use 3 eventually
[17:23] <gladiator> still the same problem
[17:23] <Grenage> Ah I see
[17:23] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: want to buy an ati x1800xt cheap?
[17:23] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, no.
[17:24] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Of ubuntu or Awesome? Ubuntu Jaunty, macbook 1,1, and Awesome release "Faith"
[17:24] <Grenage> I've only run two screens with one nvidia card, I am afraid.
[17:24] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, if you don't know.. why cant you just say "i have no idea" instead of trying to offer different solutions than the one im' asking about
[17:24] <demonspork> none of the icon sets I am installing seem to work, the icons changed, but they stay the same change (a theme I didn't install) no matter what set I install
[17:24] <aaron11> helo i have ubuntu jaunty and my applications menu is compleetly wipped out my updates didnt have enough space so it said to run sudo apt-get clear or clean please do help me do i need to not use wubi is there a simpler way? please do help me!
[17:24] <Sp0tter> Grenage, I'm running two screens on the build in ati hd4200 right now, but only one is digital out  and the analog is killing my eyeballs
[17:25] <MFen> how do i make gaim use ff3.5 when i click a link?
[17:25] <MFen> i have both 3.0 and 3.5 installed, and i want to use only 3.5
[17:25] <ndrwc> keith_hanson: only stuff i can find on a macbook 1,1 is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook1-1/Hardy sorry :( have you had sound working in other WMs/releases?
[17:25] <Grenage> I see, is it a poor refresh rate?
[17:26] <VCoolio> MFen: do you have 3.5 as default browser? or does gaim have prefs for that?
[17:26] <mgmuscari> i would use the word pedantic, but that would be the pot calling the kettle black in my case, so i'll just capitulate and say that i really don't know whether you could make that work. my educated guess would be, "no," and i wouldn't purchase a piece of hardware and try to make it work
[17:26] <Sp0tter> nah, then analog out just has ghosting and you have to hit the AUTO focus button everyrime you turn it on (or siwtch the kvm)
[17:26] <MFen> VCoolio: i don't even know what "default browser" means in gnome. if gaim has prefs for it, then that's what i'd like to find out about
[17:26] <Sp0tter> the newer cheap lcd monitors don't do well with analog above 19"
[17:26] <mgmuscari> i mean, it may be possible, but it probably depends on the exact chipsets of each card, and which driver module you use... you might do better with the open source ati drivers than with fglrx
[17:27] <VCoolio> MFen: in system>preferences>preferred applications you can set your default browser
[17:27] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, the open source one radeonhd is incredibly slower than fglrx
[17:27] <MFen> aha, preferred applications (accessible through gaim > preferences > network)
[17:27] <Grenage> Gotcha, I would throw wy work ATI into the Nvidia and test it for you, but I wouldn't get a chance until next week.
[17:27] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Yes. Gnome seems to have the sound working, though I'm somewhat newbish and can't figure out what is starting up so that I can setup the same things in Awesome
[17:27] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: are you planning to use this for 3d applications?
[17:27] <keith_hanson> ndrwc: Thanks btw :)
[17:27] <Pici> aaron11: What do you mean by 'wipped out'? Can you explain it in other words?
[17:27] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yes
[17:27] <ndrwc> well, I will continue stumbling through launchpad until I get emails etc. informing me how to do things properly :P
[17:27] <MFen> yep, that worked
[17:27] <MFen> thanks :)
[17:28] <younder> There is a Crome development version out for ubuntu
[17:28] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: don't you think that running both the nvidia and ati kernel modules concurrently, and moreover trying to get them to communicate in some way will incur massive overhead?
[17:28] <ndrwc> aaron11: you could try wiping your panels....
[17:28] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, no
[17:28] <geirha> nameless|: Apparently that MB has Realtek RTL8100C NIC, which Ubuntu should have a driver for. So that's a bit odd.
[17:28] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: why not?
[17:28] <aaron11> Pici it shows nothing no 'accsesories' no 'programming' like that
[17:28] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, why would it?
[17:28] <aaron11> ndrwc what do you mean
[17:29] <Pici> aaron11: Do you have any panels? Do you see Applications, Places and System at the top left at all?
[17:29] <ndrwc> aaron11: how about right-click and edit menus? otherwise delete your panels preferences
[17:29] <mgmuscari> it strikes me that you probably won't be able to reach the level of customization that it would take to avoid any kinds of collisions, especially in terms of memory addressing and other low level stuff
[17:29] <Grenage> If the screens are independant, it 'should' be ok.
[17:29] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, that makes zero sense :)     memory addressing has nothing to do with ati vs nvidia
[17:29] <aaron11> Pici yes
[17:29] <mgmuscari> memory addressing has everything to do with where data goes when it's trying to go to the cards...
[17:30] <aaron11> Pici but if you click applications nothing comes
[17:30] <Sp0tter> Grenage, from what I understand the screens are independent but xrandr connects them on a virtual screen
[17:30] <LouisT> oh, he left..
[17:30] <aaron11> Pici if you click places or system it works
[17:30] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, I'm sorry but I disagree with you completly.  Yuo are making vague irrelivant statements my friend.
[17:30] <Grenage> mm then it would be a suck it and see, there may be some overhead.
[17:30] <mgmuscari> i mean, one fundamental issue that i can think of right off the bat is that they'll compete for other libraries like opengl and stuff
[17:30] <ndrwc> Sp0tter: the question is can the bios allocate memory for both cards
[17:31] <Pici> aaron11: Can you open a terminal and run: update-menus
[17:31] <ndrwc> does it work in <some other OS>?
[17:31] <Grenage> the BIOS can no worries.
[17:31] <Sp0tter> ndrwc, of course it can...
[17:31] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: why would one assume that "of course" it can?
[17:31] <Sp0tter> sure, in windows you can use any multiple cards for a dual head setup
[17:32] <aaron11> Pici no
[17:32] <Pici> aaron11: no you can't do that, or no it didn't work?
[17:32] <mgmuscari> well, whatever, i'll concede defeat, leave this to the systems guys, and limit my expertise to theory...
[17:32] <aaron11> Pici it didnt wrk
[17:33] <syslq> amd_x64? Will it work on intels? I dont see any other x64 download
[17:33] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I have to say from personal experience though, what windows works with and how the bios maps memory can be totally different things...
[17:34] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: that's another good point
[17:34] <Pici> aaron11: Can you run: alacarte and see if there is anything available to be checked for the applications menu?
[17:34] <aaron11> Pici do u run that in a terminal
[17:34] <ndrwc> Sp0tter: I think your best chance of getting anywhere is to start with one card, get it working, and try adding the second
[17:34] <Pici> aaron11: Doesn't matter, its a gui application
[17:35] <Loder3331> Does anyone know how to boot fedora on top of vista and ubuntu?
[17:35] <aaron11> no
[17:35] <aaron11> Pici its not gui
[17:35] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: it sounds like he's already running an integrated ati chipset and wants to add a pci express video card on top
[17:35] <Pici> aaron11: alacarte is a gui application.
[17:35] <mgmuscari> and understandably doesn't want to blow $55 to find out that it doesn't work
[17:36] <Sp0tter> Loader sure.  Copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst file down and then install fedora on a new partition, and then added the entries to the new menu.lst from the old one
[17:36] <librenes> Loder333-> on top as you mean a virtual guest running on fedora or windows?
[17:36] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: ahh ok, so the hardware hasn't been purchased yet... Sp0tter be prepared to buy a new system for your CUDA card if it doesn't work :P
[17:36] <Loder3331> sorry I meant triple boot
[17:36] <Sp0tter> ndrwc, well I have another nvidia card here I can test with, I guess thats what I need to do
[17:37] <Loder3331> I think spotter has the right idea of what I want to do
[17:37] <mgmuscari> Loder: no problem, as long as you have some free partitions
[17:37] <librenes> Loder333-> then thats easy..yeah per Sp0tter
[17:37] <mgv1> how can i add more sets of sounds to ubuntu?
[17:37] <Pici> aaron11: What was the last thing you did before this broke?
[17:37] <Loder3331> I have already freed 80gb for fedora
[17:37] <Sp0tter> Loder333, It's pretty simople, i did a similar thing yesterday with  ubuntu and arch
[17:37] <mgv1> lets say i'm going to install windoes xp over ubuntu running system. i would i be able to do it and be able to boot ubuntu? do i need to first devide the drive again?
[17:37] <om26er> the package server is down so is there any other way to register the gpg key
[17:37] <ndrwc> Loder3331: assuming the fedora installer lets you install wherever you want and not auto-install grub, easy
[17:37] <Loder3331> I just tried to just put it in there from the fedora dvd, and it didn't work
[17:37] <Qu4R0w> i not try dual boot ubuntu with fedora but ubuntu with suse=ok
[17:37] <mgmuscari> loder: is that space on a separate partition?
[17:37] <Loder3331> It's just unallocated space on the drive
[17:38] <Loder3331> I shrunk my vista drive by an extra 80gb to put fedora in there
[17:38] <Sp0tter> So with my motherboard, it has dvi and hdmi out, but you can only use one of those + the analog.  Are nvidia video cards the same way?
[17:38] <mgmuscari> loder: so it's unpartitioned... no problem
[17:38] <Qu4R0w> mgv1: better install windows first
[17:38] <Loder3331> I chose "free space" as where to install fedora when I was putting it on, and it gave me an error
[17:38] <Sp0tter> Beause if i could use the hdmi->dvi adapter + the dvi  out for a dual head i could forget the  ati card for now
[17:38] <Sp0tter> Loder, what error?
[17:39] <Loder3331> It's a long, long error file
[17:39] <dragonrigs> Pici got my mesage
[17:39] <dragonrigs> pici got disconnected
[17:39] <Loder3331> I read through some of it and I think it said something about not knowing where to put it, but I don't know
[17:39] <harisund> What modifications does Ubuntu do to my Firefox? Why do I see a "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications 0.7" in my Firefox Add-Ons list? Who authorized Ubuntu to do this?
[17:39] <cronoss> hello, i'm wondering if i can change the ctrl-alt-suppr combination to restart my server, in fact the suppr key is not working on the keyboard of the server, is there any way to change it to ctrl-alt-c for example ?
[17:39] <Pici> dragonrigs: What was the last thing that you did before this all broke?
[17:39] <ndrwc> mgv1: try google? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200031
[17:39] <LuciusMare> Hello,anybody here tried ubuntu netbook remix at acer aspire one zg5?
[17:39] <Loder3331> the layout of my drive is like this:  Vista-free space-ubuntu partitions-windows recovery partition
[17:40] <dragonrigs> Pici i ran sudo apt-get clean or clear
[17:40] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: i think that would probably depend on the specific chipset... afaik hdmi and dvi use the same encoding, but whether the card allows two streams to be written out simultaneously on different interfaces i don't know
[17:40] <Pici> dragonrigs: Anything before that?
[17:40] <Sp0tter> mgmuscari, yea its not available from nvidia or asus unfortunatly to tell me if it allows it
[17:40] <dragonrigs> mmm no
[17:41] <ruby_on_tails> how can I open rara files on ubuntu ?
[17:41] <mgmuscari> sp0tter: it probably depends on the drivers
[17:41] <ruby_on_tails> .rar*
[17:41] <demonspork> what is the shortcut for the run command dialog box
[17:41] <Qu4R0w> harisund: it become with ubuntu..it is normal
[17:41] <demonspork> I forgot
[17:41] <Pici> cronoss: ctrl-alt-super isn't a key combination that I'ev ever heard of, do you mean ctrl-alt-delete or ctrl-alt-backspace ?
[17:41] <harisund> man Ubuntu is like some Apple among Linuxes. Anybody know what exactly it does?
[17:41] <mgmuscari> super is the windows key
[17:41] <ndrwc> Loder3331: does fedora have an install-from-livecd option the same way ubuntu does?
[17:41] <joeb3_> demonspork, alt f2
[17:41] <Pici> dragonrigs: apt-get clean wouldn't cause issues like this.  Thats why I ask.
[17:42] <cronoss> Pici, yes i mean ctrl-alt-del sorry :)
[17:42] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: what u run on?
[17:42] <Loder3331> That's what I'm using I think, I burned the iso to a dvd
[17:42] <Pici> !dontzap | cronoss
[17:42] <demonspork> joeb3_, thank you
[17:42] <Loder3331> and booting from that dvd
[17:42] <ruby_on_tails> Qu4R0w: ubuntu ? gnome
[17:42] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: can u just right click and "extract here"
[17:42] <Pici> !rar | ruby_on_tails
[17:42] <om26er> is there a manual way to register a ppa key the ppa key server is down
[17:43] <bodly> harisund: it adds .deb package handling and sets some defaults.
[17:43] <ruby_on_tails> Qu4R0w: I get this > Archive type not supported.
[17:43] <davidma7685> Where do I find programs that I've closed but are still running? (they're not showing up in the taskbar next to the clock)
[17:43] <cronoss> Pici, i'm not talking about ctrl-alt-backspace, i'm talking about ctrl-alt-del i want to be able to reboot my server in console by another combination
[17:43] <ndrwc> om26er: try man apt-key
[17:44] <bodly> harisund: if you don't like it you can uninstall the package ubufox
[17:44] <Qu4R0w> ruby_on_tails: try apt-cache search rar/unrar
[17:44] <sarah__> #gedit
[17:44] <bin1010> I just plugged in a plantronics USB headset, I want to record off of it.  How do I find where it lives in /dev?
[17:44] <harisund> bodly, ubufox. That's what I wanted to know thank you :)
[17:44] <LuciusMare> anybody here tried ubuntu netbook remix at acer aspire one zg5?
[17:45] <dan> Hello I am having a problem with my sound mplayer and other audio devices keep on getting stuck like a cd player skipping.
[17:45] <ndrwc> bin1010: try lsusb
[17:45] <ruby_on_tails> LuciusMare: I tried on samsung n110
[17:45] <steven__> How can I install Direct3D on Ubuntu?
[17:45] <LuciusMare> ruby_on_tails: cool.but not what i asked...
[17:45] <ndrwc> bin1010: sorry, that's a guess :(
[17:45] <bin1010> Bus 006 Device 003: ID 047f:0ca1 Plantronics, Inc. USB DSP v4 Audio Interface
[17:46] <Qu4R0w> Can i know if Ubuntu have "recognition system"??same with Vista?
[17:46] <mgmuscari> steven__: direct3d is a microsoft library... works under windows...
[17:46] <mgmuscari> i don't think there's a well-supported native implementation of d3d under linux
[17:46] <steven__> I need to get a game to work and it says that I need Direct3D to run it.  Can you please help me get it working?
[17:46] <ubuntu> how can i force mount a scsi hdd
[17:47] <bin1010> I need to find like the /dev/dsp2 type thing.  I am trying to record from ffmpeg
[17:47] <mgmuscari> steven__: use wine
[17:47] <TonyTT> hey anyone into art around here? I need an application like poser which I can use as a reference, any out there for ubuntu?
[17:47] <genii> steven__: Perhaps enquire in ##winehq
[17:47] <steven__> Yes, but how do I get it installed under wine?
[17:47] <harisund> Is there an applet that shows CPU usage as a graph on the Gnome Panel?
[17:47] <mgmuscari> tonytt: have you looked at blender?
[17:47] <ubuntu> how can i force mount a scsi hdd
[17:47] <ndrwc> bin1010: only other thing I can think of is /dev/input/ :/
[17:47] <TonyTT> mgmuscari, no, I will do that now.
[17:47] <Qu4R0w> steven__: what u going to install?
[17:47] <bin1010> k...thanks
[17:47] <JediMaster> what's the name of the program that creates ubuntu/deb packages from source code so you can uninstall them?
[17:47] <steven__> Conquer Online
[17:47] <ndrwc> harisund: system monitor
[17:47] <mgmuscari> steven__: which version of directx?
[17:48] <steven__> I don't have that either
[17:48] <steven__> It only mentioned that I need Direct 3D to get it working
[17:48] <mgmuscari> steven__: direct3d is part of directx
[17:48] <kromar> hi, is it possible to copy my linux to an other disk with gparted?
[17:48] <ubuntu> for some reason i can mount scsi hdd
[17:48] <steven__> It is already installed and patched, it just won't run without Direct3D is all
[17:48] <harisund> ndrwc, Thank you :)
[17:48] <steven__> Ahhhh
[17:48] <steven__> I never knew that
[17:48] <steven__> So how do I get DirectX on my comp then? lol
[17:49] <cocoa117> is that true only root or sudo can use chown to change file's owner?
[17:49] <mgmuscari> steven__: which version of directx do you need to install?
[17:49] <ndrwc> harisund: the "extreme" system monitoring option for a desktop is conky
[17:49] <steven__> Did not say. I guess the more recent, the better
[17:49] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: usually
[17:49] <genii> cocoa117: If the file in question already belongs to a user, they can chown/cmod it all they like
[17:49] <genii> *chmod
[17:49] <mgmuscari> steven__: what game are you trying to run?
[17:49] <steven__> I imagine anything under 8.0 would be bad...
[17:49] <steven__> Conquer Online
[17:49] <dan> How do I run a check to find out whats wrong with my audio players and why they keep getting stuck on a loop like a cd skipping
[17:49] <Pici> cronoss: hm. I suspect it would involve looking at /etc/event.d/control-alt-delete, but I'm not sure how upstart calls that
[17:49] <kromar> hi, is it possible to copy my linux to an other disk with gparted?
[17:50] <bro_> hey guys, can i update my nautilus in hardy to the version from jaunty? i'd like to have the "compact view"
[17:50] <LuciusMare> kromar: why gparted?use cp --archive
[17:50] <cocoa117> genii, i have that trouble when file belong to me but i can't chown to somebody else
[17:50] <LuciusMare> *sudo cp --archive
[17:50] <seidos> bro_: probably but I've never done it
[17:50] <ndrwc> kromar: try it and see :P
[17:50] <JediMaster> kromar: if you have a blank new disk, "dd" is a quick and easy way to copy a disk/partition
[17:50] <LuciusMare> JediMaster: also a possibility
[17:50] <mgmuscari> steven__: start here: http://tinyurl.com/pm2ly8
[17:50] <bro_> hi seidos. i too downgraded to hardy. the video problems are gone now
[17:50] <ndrwc> JediMaster: "quick" is relative to block size :P
[17:50] <kromar> JediMaster: wahts "dd"?
[17:51] <genii> cocoa117: There is a safeguard so that regular users can't chown something to root like a vicious app then run it with those priveleges
[17:51] <LuciusMare> kromar: dd is a program
[17:51] <Qu4R0w> steven__: actually wine not support all .exe
[17:51] <bro_> seidos, just that i got used to some goodies in jaunty, now hardy looks so old...
[17:51] <kromar> JediMaster: but it will work if i copy it with gparted or will i get problems?
[17:51] <cronoss> Pici yes i looked in that file i don't think i can change the combination from there, there is only : start on control-alt-delete ; exec /sbin/shutdown -r now "Control-Alt-Delete pressed"
[17:51] <ndrwc> kromar: block-level file copying
[17:51] <cocoa117> genii, i c
[17:51] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: are you just trying to give someone else access to see it?
[17:51] <LuciusMare> kromar: www.lmgtfy.com/?q=dd
[17:52] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, i was
[17:52] <ubuntu> hey how can i find the hdd on the dev folder
[17:52] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: alternatively, you could modify file permissions to allow them to view, modify, and/or execute the contents of the file
[17:52] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, but never mind, i think i just chown so others can do it
[17:52] <ndrwc> ubuntu: mount
[17:53] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: i think that that was not what he asked for
[17:53] <mgmuscari> cocoa117: that works as long as you're in the sudoers file
[17:53] <ubuntu> ndrwc ?
[17:53] <davidma7685> How can I find a running program that I closed the window for?
[17:53] <ndrwc> ubuntu: what do you mean?
[17:53] <cronoss> Pici, btw thank you for your help :)
[17:53] <ubuntu> am trying to mount a scsi hdd
[17:53] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: i think that he thought about getting a n adress of a device to mount it.
[17:53] <cocoa117> mgmuscari, got it, i always in the sudo file, so never realised i can't chown once i am not
[17:53] <ndrwc> ... gparted?
[17:53] <heoa_> Howc can I control things like in KOrganizer, such as calendar, todos etc, from CLI?
[17:53] <ubuntu> ndrwc let me explain
[17:54] <mgmuscari> what do you mean you're always in the sudo file? you mean you log in as root?
[17:54] <ndrwc> it'd be an sdn if it's scsi
[17:54] <LuciusMare> ndrwc: dmesg...?
[17:54] <Loder3331> Lol, I wonder what happened to the people who were helping me. Is anyone that was helping me with the vista-ubuntu-fedora triple boot? Or does anyone else know how to do it?
[17:54] <ndrwc> LuciusMare: hrm yes
[17:54] <Loder3331> is anyone still around*?
[17:54] <mgmuscari> loder: what are you up to?
[17:54] <Carolus> Buenos dias ¿Alguien habla español?
[17:54] <Loder3331> I'm trying to add fedora
[17:54] <prince_jammys> !es | Carolus
[17:54] <ubuntu> ndrwc i had a server with windows 2000 and crashed but since it has scsi hdd i got another server and used the ubuntu live cd and am trying to see if i can pull any data out of the hdd
[17:54] <Loder3331> I already have vista and ubuntu installed and dual-booting
[17:54] <mgmuscari> loder: why don't you just boot from the cd and install it that way?
[17:55] <Loder3331> I tried and it gave me an error
[17:55] <Loder3331> I created 80gb of free space for fedora
[17:55] <Loder3331> and it didn't work
[17:55] <Carolus> ok gracias
[17:55] <mgmuscari> loder: what was the error. i don't think you told us before
[17:55] <steven__> Man...noone in Wine community can get this to work...haha
[17:55] <mgmuscari> steven__: bronze rating means that it'll run ok. maybe not perfectly, but ok
[17:56] <Loder3331> it said there was a problem and gave me a really long text file which I was given the option to save
[17:56] <Loder3331> I figured I'd try to find out if I'm doing something wrong before I have somebody go through all that
[17:56] <ndrwc> ubuntu: dmesg | grep SCSI ?
[17:56] <mgmuscari> loder: we can't help if you don't tell us what the problem was
[17:56] <ndrwc> Loder3331: so the livecd doesn't have an option to install then? bummer :(
[17:56] <ubuntu> ndrwc
[17:56] <Loder3331> What do you mean, ndrwc?
[17:56] <ubuntu> ndrwc ?
[17:57] <mgmuscari> loder: pastebin the file
[17:57] <MenZa> !tab | mgmuscari
[17:57] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok the ubuntu livecd has the install option on the desktop as of about hardy IIRC
[17:57] <mgmuscari> MenZa: thanks!
[17:57] <MenZa> mgmuscari: No problem. :)
[17:57] <ubuntu> ndrwc i dont understand
[17:57] <mgmuscari> never realized that would work in pidgin...
[17:58] <ndrwc> ubuntu: in a terminal, "dmesg | grep SCSI"
[17:58] <Loder3331> I was trying to use the fedora livecd (dvd) to install fedora into some unpartitioned space that I freed up for it
[17:58] <MenZa> mgmuscari: I didn't know it did. I'm happy the developers put it in, though.
[17:58] <Loder3331> and it wouldn't let me
[17:58] <mgmuscari> MenZa: that certainly makes it easier...
[17:58] <Loder3331> mgmuscari: I'll have to go save the file first
[17:58] <Loder3331> Is it possible that the arrangement of my partitions could prevent fedora from installing?
[17:59] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: have you tried booting from the cd (not into ubuntu or windows) and installing from there?
[17:59] <Loder3331> That's all I ever tried
[17:59] <ndrwc> Loder3331: I think at this point try #fedora :/
[17:59] <Loder3331> I'm using the dvd
[17:59] <Loder3331> Yeah, I went there first, but they're not very helpful or active
[17:59] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: there is a limit on the number of primary partitions you can have on a disk
[17:59] <MenZa> I'm tempted to agree with ndrwc on this one; it seems like a problem with Fedora, not Ubuntu. Of course, if you can get the logfile, Loder3331, then it might be easier for us to troubleshoot it.
[18:00] <MenZa> Loder3331: And, alternatively, direct you to the correct channels. :)
[18:00] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you're not running past 4 primary partitions are you?
[18:00] <Loder3331> I don't think I am. Is there a way to tell?
[18:00] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: furthermore, if you're trying to let it autoconfigure grub, it'll try to make a primary partition for the boot stuff, afaik. try to point it to your existing /boot
[18:00] <Loder3331> I know that I have two for vista, the regular partition, and a recovery partition
[18:00] <Loder3331> I don't know how many ubuntu uses
[18:00] <ndrwc> Loder3331: gparted again
[18:01] <MenZa> Loder3331: It sounds like you have three primary partitions. A primary partition is required to boot from.
[18:01] <ndrwc> it's amazing how many problems gparted solves... :P
[18:01] <MenZa> Loder3331: Check it with gparted, though.
[18:01] <JediMaster> what's the name of the program that creates ubuntu/deb packages from source code so you can uninstall them?
[18:01] <Loder3331> Does the free space for fedora have to be in any particular place?
[18:01] <Loder3331> Right now, It's between vista and ubuntu
[18:02] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: no, but you know, i find that it's always nice to have a clean partition table
[18:02] <ndrwc> Loder3331: if all else fails put it at the end so it can create an extended... though AFAIK that would also count as a primary
[18:02] <Loder3331> AFAIK?
[18:02] <MenZa> JediMaster: checkinstall does that.
[18:02] <MenZa> Loder3331: "As far as I know"
[18:03] <ndrwc> not sure if it's possible / difficult to convert between primary and extended partitions..,
[18:03] <Loder3331> ah
[18:03] <JediMaster> MenZa: that's the one, thanks
[18:03] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: have you tried making logical volumes?
[18:03] <MenZa> It's impossible, ndrwc.
[18:03] <ndrwc> MenZa: figured as much
[18:03] <speedball> hello aaron11?
[18:03] <Loder3331> I don't know how that works, nor do I know what purpose it would serve, so no
[18:03] <MenZa> You need to remove and create the partition. If you have enough free space, you can create a temporary partition to unload the data on, then copy it back, though.
[18:03] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: you wouldn't hit that primary partition limit with logical volumes
[18:04] <ndrwc> "it's amazing how many problems can be solved with ..." an external hdd
[18:04] <Loder3331> How do I configure a volume to be logical? And which one(s) should I do it do?
[18:04] <Loder3331> do it to*
[18:05] <MenZa> Loder3331: You need to remember that you Logical partitions can't be booted directly from. My suggestion is a /boot partition, which runs as primary. This could run a bootloader to boot both Fedora and Ubuntu.
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: The practicalities might require you to basically nuke your current partition table, unless you have the required space. And know that it might take a long, long time if you need to move partitions around.
[18:06] <Loder3331> right now vista is my /boot partition
[18:06] <gOLDfeesh> !auto-apt
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: And by a long time, I mean several hours.
[18:06] <gOLDfeesh> hmm..
[18:06] <MenZa> Loder3331: Huh?
[18:06] <mgmuscari> you just have to make sure that your /boot is on a primary partition and that your kernel image is also in there
[18:06] <Loder3331> vista is /boot, and when I boot, I choose between vista and ubuntu
[18:06] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: do you mean you're chain loading grub through the vista bootloader?
[18:06] <Loder3331> ubuntu is always selected automatically, but vista is my /boot partition according to gparted, if I remember correctly
[18:06] <mgmuscari> O_o
[18:07] <yunita-> :P
[18:07] <ndrwc> Loder3331: so I assume ubuntu's /boot is on the same partition as the root filesystem...
[18:07] <Loder3331> I wouldn't know, really
[18:07] <MenZa> /boot and a boot flag aren't the same, Loder3331 - /boot is a Linux-specific mountpoint
[18:07] <aaron11> speedball
[18:07] <ndrwc> I wasn't aware that one could set an ntldr entry for a linux partition
[18:07] <speedball> hey
[18:07] <aaron11> speedball: ok
[18:08] <Loder3331> So by creating a /boot partition, when my bootloader comes up, instead of choosing from vista and ubuntu, I could choose from vista, or a sub-menu, or other bootloader or something, from which I could choose ubuntu or fedora?
[18:08] <gOLDfeesh> !nvidia
[18:08] <mgmuscari> ndrwc: i certainly have never been able to get vista's bootloader to point to linux
[18:08] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I've only seen it done with wubi
[18:08] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: do you see grub when you boot your computer?
[18:08] <Loder3331> yes
[18:08] <Loder3331> black screen with grey text choices?
[18:08] <MenZa> Loder3331: Can you give me an idea of the number/capacity of your harddrive(s), so I can look around and draft up an idea for a partition layout?
[18:08] <younder> Crome for ubuntu rocks.
[18:08] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: so grub is the linux bootloader, and it's located in /boot
[18:08] <Loder3331> one 750gb harddrive
[18:08] <Curtis_B> where is the gedit binary? it's not in /bin
[18:09] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll have a look around - give me five--ten minutes :)
[18:09] <Loder3331> Thanks
[18:09] <mgmuscari> it would look like this: http://thegabfather.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/grub4kt.jpg
[18:09] <JonJ> Curtis_B: It would probably be in /usr/local/bin/
[18:09] <koh__> How do I go about reading media/data off other partition? eg. Windows
[18:09] <younder> There is still just a development version, and plugins don't work reliably
[18:09] <Curtis_B> thanks JonJ, I thought that space was for software I build on my own...hrm
[18:09] <ndrwc> mgmuscari: I remember doing dodgy things copying the mbr to a file and trying to point XP at it, ended up using a second hdd :/
[18:09] <MenZa> Oh, question - Loder3331, do you have a Windows Vista installation CD, or an OEM recovery CD?
[18:10] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: the windows one would say "Windows Boot Manager" at the top
[18:10] <Loder3331> and similarly to that, where you would choose between the windows OSs after choosing the windows option, in my case, It would read as fedora/ubuntu or something?
[18:10] <Loder3331> No I don't, MenZa
[18:10] <Loder3331> I'm 95% sure I'm booting with grub
[18:10] <aaron11> dog
[18:10] <Loder3331> it looks like the picture
[18:10] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: properly configured, grub will display something like 'Ubuntu' 'Fedora' and 'Windows Vista'
[18:10] <MenZa> Loder3331: Right
[18:10] <Curtis_B> JonJ, fyi, it was /usr/bin
[18:10] <JonJ> Curtis_B: Nah, it's for local software that isn't essential for the system, as far as I can tell
[18:11] <mgmuscari> grub chain loads the windows bootloader, which is on your windows C: partition
[18:11] <JonJ> Curtis_B: Ah, ok
[18:11] <Loder3331> Does a recovery partition serve the same purpose as a recovery cd?
[18:11] <Loder3331> For windows?
[18:11] <Loder3331> Because my drive has a recovery partition
[18:11] <Curtis_B> so /bin is essential, good to know
[18:11] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: yes but that would eradicate your linux installations
[18:11] <MenZa> Loder3331: I suppose, yes
[18:11] <Loder3331> and my BIOS has an option to boot into the recovery manager
[18:11] <tuxxie> mgmuscari: properly configured grub will only have linux os's :D
[18:11] <applecache> recovery ahs ur drivers etc
[18:11] <ndrwc> Loder3331: somewhat depends on the manufacturer :/
[18:11] <mgmuscari> tuxxie: touche
[18:11] <applecache> has*
[18:12] <sudaya> how can i fix my cam on ubuntu 9.04
[18:12] <Loder3331> Is gparted included in ubuntu or do I have to use the livecd?
[18:12] <tuxxie> sudaya: whats wrong with it??
[18:12] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: sudo apt-get install gparted if you don't have it
[18:13] <sudaya> i cant capture in vlc player
[18:13] <Loder3331> I have the livecd
[18:13] <Loder3331> but I could just dl it now then
[18:13] <Loder3331> It's downloading atm
[18:13] <ndrwc> scary, it's not part of base... then again I have a fairly minimal install :/
[18:13] <sudaya> tuxxie: i cant capture in vlc
[18:13] <mgmuscari> LMAO - i just got the most RIDICULOUS email from my department... sorry for the OT but this is funny. university police are asking us to lock the windows to our offices at night due to bat infestations.
[18:14] <Loder3331> It looks like it's done, mgmuscari. How do I get to it?
[18:14] <mgmuscari> from a terminal you can just run gparted
[18:14] <Loder3331> nvm, I found it
[18:14] <sudaya> tuxxie: Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)
[18:14] <sudaya> tuxxie: my cam device
[18:14] <Loder3331> Okay how do I check to see if these are primary?
[18:15] <mgmuscari> hate to run before you figure your stuff out Loder3331, but i have to go talk to a professor about the project we're assigning our students... good luck
[18:15] <Loder3331> Thanks, and thanks for you help so far
[18:15] <mgmuscari> Loder3331: no problem. try the man pages for help on the appropriate flag to look for extended/primary. run man gparted
[18:15] <ndrwc> have a look at the bars at the top, a cyan-ish border around several indicates extended
[18:15] <mgmuscari> bye!
[18:15] <katon> hi
[18:15] <ndrwc> in gparted
[18:16] <sudaya> tuxxie: it also doesnt work with luvcview -w -s 192x192
[18:16] <katon> can anyone tell me how is the best way and simple  to install VDPAU ????
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: [ /boot | /media/win | / U | / F | /home | swap ] is something like what you want
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll just write up some further specs for it
[18:16] <katon> there is a PACAKGE ?
[18:16] <katon> PACKAGE?
[18:16] <Loder3331> Lol I have no idea what that means
[18:16] <MenZa> Loder3331: Hence why I'm writing up some more information about it :)
[18:16] <ndrwc> Loder3331: hang on screenshot
[18:17] <Loder3331> lol k
[18:17] <sudaya> tuxxie: hello!!
[18:17] <pepsu> hi all
[18:17] <vs-adm> Hi everyone
[18:17] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok http://www.drfreeware.org/screenshots/gparted.jpg <- /dev/sda2 has a dropdown and type "extended"
[18:17] <pepsu> ubuntu rulezz
[18:18] <vs-adm> I have a question about Palimpset
[18:18] <katon> ?
[18:18] <pepsu> do u like it ??http://img17.imageshack.us/i/peps.png/
[18:18] <pepsu> i did it
[18:18] <jerkman> hey, im trying to get a joystick working under linux, now call me crazy, but it is for an amiga and it just so happens to fit a serial port PERFECTLY... is there a driver and does anyone have any experiaence with this sort of thing??
[18:18] <ndrwc> Loder3331: also http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_1_big.jpg etc.
[18:18] <Loder3331> I'm not sure what you're trying to show me, ndrwc
[18:18] <vs-adm> It complains on 1 reallocated sector. Is this feature tunable or hardcoded?
[18:18] <Maleko> how do we set a root permission on program?
[18:19] <stephengarvin> I was wondering if xubuntu or the netbook version of regular ubuntu would be better for an older laptop for my mom thats wanting to browse the web and do facebook like things
[18:19] <ndrwc> Loder3331: in gparted, to see if a partition is extended? sorry it's quite early here
[18:19] <Maleko> trying to make ftp cmd requires root permission run
[18:19] <ndrwc> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php
[18:19] <Maleko> to run*
[18:19] <Balistic> Is the Openoffice 3.x repo at http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu supposed to be empty for intrepid?
[18:19] <MenZa> ndrwc, care to check this out and see if you agree: http://pastebin.com/m6e113050
[18:20] <Loder3331> how do you do a screen capture like in windows, on ubuntu?
[18:20] <Loder3331> I usually just press print screen and paste it in paint
[18:20] <Loder3331> does that work in ubuntu with gimp?
[18:20] <ndrwc> Loder3331: printscreen, it'll ask where to save it
[18:20] <MenZa> If you press Print Screen, a small window will pop up asking you to save it.
[18:20] <Loder3331> okay 1 sec
[18:21] <jerkman> hey, im trying to get a joystick working under linux, now call me crazy, but it is for an amiga and it just so happens to fit a serial port PERFECTLY... is there a driver and does anyone have any experiaence with this sort of thing??
[18:21] <sudaya> how can i fix my web cam
[18:22] <RussellAlan> How do I go about reading media/data off other partition? eg. Windows
[18:22] <Loder3331> alright what's the fastest way to get you to see this screenshot of gparted?
[18:22] <MenZa> !fstab | RussellAlan
[18:22] <ndrwc> MenZa: /swap could easily be inside extended though
[18:22] <sudaya> how can capture video from webcam in lc
[18:22] <RussellAlan> thanks menza
[18:22] <MenZa> ndrwc: Excellent.
[18:22] <sudaya> how can capture video from webcam in vlc
[18:22] <C10uD> hello, anyone knows where i can talk with the xorg ppa owners?
[18:22] <MenZa> ndrwc: You reckon it would work, yes?
[18:22] <MenZa> C10uD: Try #ubuntu-motu
[18:22] <garv> anyone have experience with the netbook ver of ubuntu vs. xubuntu?
[18:23] <C10uD> thanks MenZa
[18:23] <MenZa> Oh, ppa owners, C10uD
[18:23] <MenZa> C10uD: Check their contact information on Launchpad.
[18:23] <ndrwc> MenZa: should do I suppose, so long as uids/gids are the same
[18:23] <C10uD> oh ok
[18:23] <C10uD> ;:)
[18:23] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'll not say I'm pro with partitions, but have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/m21a21713 - I'm 90% sure it should work fine.
[18:23] <obiwan_> hi
[18:23] <MenZa> Loder3331: Note that the order of partitions is pretty important
[18:24] <Loder3331> menza, ndrwc, I'm trying to send you a screenshot of my gparted screen
[18:24] <obiwan_> please 1 question, how can i update the kernel?
[18:24] <Loder3331> did you see it?
[18:24] <ndrwc> !pastebin
[18:24] <MenZa> I see it, Loder3331
[18:24] <MenZa> !kernel | obiwan_
[18:24] <obiwan_> ty MenZa
[18:24] <MenZa> obiwan_: Be careful, though.
[18:25] <MenZa> obiwan_: You shouldn't have to manually compile a new kernel.
[18:25] <MenZa> And it can go poof.
[18:25] <garv> anyone with xubuntu experiance? the #xubuntu channel is dead
[18:25] <MenZa> !anyone | garv
[18:25] <Loder3331> I still don't know what the information at that pastebin link means in terms of what I have to do with gparted
[18:26] <MenZa> Loder3331: Look at the, uh, bar I created. It's ASCII, so not quite as pretty as what you see in gparted.
[18:26] <MenZa> It requires you to delete most of your partitions and start over, basically.
[18:26] <MenZa> Partitions are stone-age like that.
[18:26] <garv> Menza would you reccomend using xubuntu or the netbook ver of ubuntu with a older laptop?
[18:26] <MenZa> garv: That's up to your preferences.
[18:26] <MenZa> !best
[18:27] <ndrwc> heh
[18:27] <MenZa> Man, I would be arthritic if I didn't depend so much on the factoids in here.
[18:27] <ekimmargni> How can I have network manager use a static IP on the LAN? Is that a setting on the router, or in NM (or both)?
[18:27] <ndrwc> MenZa: my system atm: http://imagebin.org/63966
[18:27] <ndrwc> swap inside extended
[18:28] <MenZa> ndrwc: Ah. I'll keep that in mind.
[18:28] <ndrwc> MenZa: wait did I have a point there? :P
[18:28] <Loder3331> MenZa: okay so if I read correctly, I need to have a boot partition(primary), followed by a windows vista partition(primary), followed by an ubuntu partition(extended), followed by a fedora partition(extended), followed by a /home partition(extended), followed by a 16gb swap partition(I have 8gb ram.., extended)
[18:28] <ndrwc> I think i'd better get some sleep
[18:28] <Loder3331> Is that correct?
[18:29] <MenZa> Loder3331: "Extended" just means it can contain several partitions, without ACTUALLY being a partition.
[18:29] <MenZa> And good lord, if you have 8GB, don't waste a kilobyte on the swap
[18:29] <ndrwc> my work machine would be a better indication, it's a macbook so it's got EFI, OSX, Ubuntu and swap
[18:29] <Loder3331> lol
[18:29] <adac> which grafic driver should i install if I don't want to use the proprietary ones (nvidea, ati). For to get a movie playing without problems?
[18:29] <Loder3331> ubuntu gave me a very small swap file by default
[18:29] <ndrwc> MenZa: ... hibernate?
[18:29] <Loder3331> so should I just take that one and put it at the end
[18:29] <rigodeni> I noticed when i restart my comp, at the ubuntu load screen it keeps doing "Routine check of disk" how can i disable this?
[18:29] <Loder3331> with gparted?
[18:29] <MenZa> ndrwc: It should be able to suspend-to-ram.
[18:29] <ndrwc> oh why do swap partitions keep being used if swap files are better?
[18:30] <ndrwc> MenZa: power failure?
[18:30] <thiebaude> !swap
[18:30] <ndrwc> thiebaude: thankyou :)
[18:30] <Loder3331> Yeah
[18:30] <bodly> adac: depends on which card you have.  nv driver for nvidia card.  ati driver for ati card.  the nv driver has no 3d acceleration at all.
[18:30] <MenZa> Loder3331: If you *do* want swap, i wouldn not go above 1--2GB swap, but I really don't think you need it.
[18:30] <Loder3331> So MenZa, did you see my current configuration?
[18:31] <Loder3331> in the screencapture?
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: I must've missed it. Apologies.
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: Oh, I saw you sending it. Please upload it instead.
[18:31] <Loder3331> Alright where
[18:31] <thiebaude> ndrwc, no problem
[18:31] <gwildor> idk wtf is with everyone recomending against swap...
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: I IRC through my server, which has no graphical interface.
[18:31] <garv> is the netbook remix the same as the MID edition? if not where can I find a good information page on the netbook remix
[18:31] <MenZa> Loder3331: http://imagebin.org, for instance.
[18:31] <Loder3331> lol ok, how
[18:31] <MenZa> !nbr | garv
[18:31] <applecache> send file
[18:31] <MenZa> hm.
[18:31] <rigodeni> I noticed when i restart my comp, at the ubuntu load screen it keeps doing "Routine check of disk" how can i disable this?
[18:32] <Len> Hi, can anyone help me?
[18:32] <gwildor> rigodeni, did you try letting it do the check?
[18:32] <MenZa> garv: check http://canonical.com/netbook
[18:32] <ndrwc> rigodeni: accept that you'll have data loss?
[18:32] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: you probably shouldn't
[18:32] <MenZa> Len: That certainly depends what you need help with.
[18:32] <rigodeni> gwildor: no
[18:32] <applecache> rigodeni; maybe ur hard drive has problomes
[18:32] <gwildor> rigodeni, i would start there.
[18:32] <garv> Menza thank you
[18:32] <Loder3331> how do I upload my picture to that page, MenZa?
[18:32] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: you can make it run less often though, using tune2fs - and you can make it run faster by using ext4 filesystem
[18:32] <rigodeni> gwildor: k
[18:32] <adac> bodly, Well I want to use my usb stick on multiple pcs the grafic card can differ. so what would you suggest?
[18:33] <applecache> send the file to him
[18:33] <Len> its just because my linux cant find computers by name, just by ip
[18:33] <applecache> right click on his name
[18:33] <applecache> then send file
[18:33] <Loder3331> He wants me to upload it instead
[18:33] <rigodeni> ekimmargni: i heard theres issues with ext4 still
[18:33] <ndrwc> Loder3331: http://tinyurl.com/imagebin
[18:33] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: which issues?
[18:33] <Len> i'm thinking in installing bind
[18:33] <MenZa> Good question, Loder3331 - http://tinypic.com instead.
[18:33] <bodly> adac: the vesa driver should work with just about any card out there.  but it will be slow and not have many features.
[18:33] <ndrwc> or imageshack.us or whatever really :P
[18:33] <applecache> upload -= send i think
[18:33] <rigodeni> ekimmargni: i dunno
[18:33] <Loder3331> can I just use the link ndrwc just gave me?
[18:33] <Loder3331> It seems to be working
[18:34] <adac> bodly, yeah it seems to be too slow for video (movies)
[18:34] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you can use whatever works, so long as you tell us where you've put it :)
[18:34] <Len> MenZa: its just because my linux cant find computers by name, just by ip
[18:34] <ekimmargni> rigodeni: all the issues I hear about have been fixed... online defrag, deleting large files, a bit of a kludge for desktop manager dotfiles... all done
[18:34] <Loder3331> http://imagebin.org/63967
[18:34] <ekimmargni> !ext4 | rigodeni
[18:34] <ekimmargni> wtf?!
[18:35] <ekimmargni> luckily seb isn't here to botspam me :)
[18:35] <bodly> adac: if you just move your xorg.conf file out of the way, X should be able to figure out which driver to use automatically
[18:35] <ndrwc> len: you have a dns server?
[18:35] <MenZa> Loder3331: Whichever :)
[18:35] <rigodeni> "ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4" lol
[18:35] <MenZa> Loder3331: Checking it out now.
[18:35] <Loder3331> K
[18:35] <JamesB192> I trashed the contents of /etc/grub.d on my Kubuntu laptop (Karmic using GRUB2) how do I replace the files that were there?
[18:36] <MenZa> Loder3331: Well... You *can* leave Windows as the first partition - or so I'm told. Moving that block around would be no fun. swap the locations of /boot and /media/win on my partition table and work with it from there
[18:36] <adac> bodly, so is it possible to install both drivers ati and nvidia at the same time?
[18:36] <legend2440> !karmic | JamesB192
[18:36] <bodly> adac: as far as i know, yes.
[18:36] <ndrwc> Loder3331: does your bios/recovery have specific requirements on where the recovery parition lives?
[18:36] <Len> ndrwc: no, Im thinking in installing bind
[18:37] <Loder3331> I have no idea
[18:37] <MenZa> Loder3331: I'd just delete most of my partitions and rebuild it completely. Oh, and leave your recovery partition where it is
[18:37] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you didn't move it then?
[18:37] <Loder3331> No
[18:37] <Loder3331> It's been there all along
[18:37] <ndrwc> ok
[18:38] <Len> ndrwc: but I don't know how to set it up
[18:38] <MenZa> Loder3331: It is a bit of brain surgery you have going here. If you're new to Linux, why don't you stick to one distribution?
[18:38] <ndrwc> len: err dunno. why bind? why not dnsmasq?
[18:38] <Loder3331> Lol I don't know
[18:38] <Loder3331> I just want to have them both
[18:38] <om26er> how can i set the notification to appear in the bottom
[18:39] <Loder3331> So what steps do I need to take in gparted from this point, to get where I need to be?
[18:39] <Loder3331> Do I just create a /home and a /boot partition in the free space?
[18:39] <MenZa> Loder3331: Moving partitions around, deleting partitions, re-installing
[18:39] <Loder3331> and put them in the correct places?
[18:39] <MenZa> Make sure they're all in the extended table
[18:39] <MenZa> Like in the paste I gave you earlier
[18:39] <cak054> j
[18:39] <MenZa> It *is* possible to do this, but you may need to read up on the different things a bit. It's a bit difficult to work with.
[18:39] <ndrwc> Loder3331: are you wiping or keeping the NTFS partitions? looks like they need repairing
[18:40] <Len> ndrwc: I just read on google that bind is more used, so I was shooting for bind
[18:40] <Loder3331> I plan on keeping them
[18:40] <ekimmargni> How can I have network manager use a static IP on the LAN?
[18:40] <Loder3331> most of my things are on that partition
[18:41] <legend2440> om26er: right click bottom panel choose add to panel  choose Notification  Area. i think that will work. Never tried it
[18:41] <K_Dallas> Hig guys! What is the easiest way to make a bootable USB from karmic.iso? Thanks
[18:41] <adac> bodly, you mean the proprietary ones? Or are there other?
[18:41] <stianhj> K_Dallas: unetbootin
[18:41] <om26er> legend2440: i am talking abt the notification that popup
[18:41] <ndrwc> Loder3331: other thing, are you wiping ubuntu? install fedora first if you are, in case it's not as flexible as ubuntu for install locations
[18:42] <ndrwc> eh maybe not... :/
[18:42] <K_Dallas> stianhj, I don't have ubuntu installed yet but i have access to opensuse. Would this worked as well?
[18:42] <legend2440> om26er: oh ok. not sure
[18:42] <Loder3331> I wasn't planning on wiping ubuntu
[18:42] <fccf> !karmic | K_Dallas
[18:42] <ndrwc> Loder3331: ok
[18:42] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[18:42] <Loder3331> If possible, I want to just install fedora
[18:42] <Loder3331> without getting rid of anything, if possible
[18:42] <stianhj> K_Dallas: unetbootin is available for windows
[18:42] <bodly> adac: there are opensource drivers for both ati and nvidia cards.
[18:42] <K_Dallas> fccf, thanks for the heads-up.
[18:42] <gwildor> matt098, i dont think i can help, but i can say thanks for the awesome post.
[18:43] <ndrwc> Loder3331: you realise you've asked something along the lines of "I want more seats in my car" right? :P
[18:43] <adac> bodly, what is their name?
[18:43] <K_Dallas> stianhj, that would be great. much appreciated thank you.
[18:43] <ndrwc> good luck :)
[18:43] <matt098> how do u whisper?
[18:43] <gOLDfeesh> When I try to install prelude, I get the following:   error creating directory /etc/prelude/profile/prelude-manager: No such file or directory.
[18:43] <wakeupscreaming> ubuntard ?
[18:43] <stianhj> K_Dallas: opensuse will work as well.. it's in the repos i guess
[18:43] <Loder3331> Lol, so is it possible?
[18:43] <K7522|AFK> ndrwc, I want more seats in my car.
[18:43] <K_Dallas> stianhj, great
[18:44] <ndrwc> K7522|AFK: good for you. do you have space in your car?
[18:44] <bodly> adac: xserver-xorg-video-nv and xserver-xorg-video-ati
[18:44] <K7522> ndrwc, No :( hehe
[18:44]  * K_Dallas thinks google cannot beat IRC anytime soon ;)
[18:44] <Loder3331> So ndrwc is it possible to do this? Or do I have to get rid of ubuntu first
[18:44] <ndrwc> Loder3331: should be possible
[18:45] <K7522> K_Dallas, IRC > ubuntuforums.org > google
[18:45] <adac> bodly, thx a lot! Is it possible that when i install nvidia ones that may when I boot my usb stick on another pc the fallback will be vesa?
[18:45] <shane2peru> anyone know how to bind nfs to specific ports on ubuntu?
[18:45] <K_Dallas> K7522, :):) agreed, msot of the time
[18:45] <K_Dallas> most* even
[18:45] <Loder3331> Actually I don't mind deleting ubuntu, so if I delete all partitions except the two ntfs partitions, where do I go from there?
[18:45] <JediMaster> do I need to compile with the win32codecs to get support for decoding things like windows media player codecs?
[18:45] <Frots> hi
[18:45] <bodly> adac: as long as you don't have a driver hardcoded into your xorg.conf file, that should work.
[18:45] <Loder3331> I don't know how to make things part of the extended or anything like that
[18:45] <JediMaster> ugh, wrong channel
[18:46] <Frots> how can I compile ms office for ubuntu?
[18:46]  * ndrwc $ grep "bed" /dev/room
[18:46] <legend2440> Loder3331: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/112118-dual-boot-fedora-8-ubuntu-desktop-version.html
[18:46] <ndrwc> Frots: steal the source code
[18:46] <K_Dallas> Frots, wow! Do you have the source?
[18:46] <ubuntu1> use wine for ms officr
[18:46] <ndrwc> quick sell it on ebay
[18:46] <Guest6257> running crunch bang linux in virtualbox 3.0 unable to get guest additions   using ubuntu 9.04
[18:46] <mdg> Frots: see if you can get an rpm
[18:46] <jhowell> in server 9.04, 'invoke-rc.d mysql start' does nothing.  However, 'restart', 'stop', 'foo', and even 'start2' *do* things.  Please see: http://pastebin.com/m1abed131  Starting at line 97.
[18:47] <K7522> ubuntu1, why use wine for ms office? Just use open office in your native desktop
[18:47] <demonspork> I am trying to install icon themes on 9.04, and only some of them work for all of the icons.  Glass-icons is one that doesn't work, certain things like archives and certain other filetypes work, but folders and hard disk and cd rom icons don't, they just go back to defaults
[18:47] <ben_m> Frots: That's easy, just run emerge
[18:47] <ChrizC> how do I set my resolution above 1024x768 on 8.04 LTS?
[18:47] <jhowell> So what's special about the word 'start' that has broken this init script?
[18:47] <Frots> I dont understand
[18:47] <Frots> I read it on the wiki
[18:47] <mdg> Frots: rm -rf C:
[18:47] <Frots> but it didnt work
[18:47] <ben_m> Frots: emerge is the packet manager for Ubuntu
[18:47] <Frots> doesn't work
[18:47] <ben_m> I heard
[18:47] <Frots> where do i get emerge
[18:47] <ben_m> do it with sudo
[18:47] <shane2peru> anyone know how to bind nfs to specific ports on ubuntu?
[18:47] <Frots> sudo emerge ms office ?
[18:47] <K7522> ChriszC, System > Preferences > Display check there
[18:47] <ZachK18> hallo
[18:48] <Frots> or sudo rm -rf c:
[18:48] <ben_m> Frots: c: won't work
[18:48] <Loder3331> legend2440: will that work if you already have a windows partition as well as a windows recovery partition?
[18:48] <ben_m> Frots: if you want to do that, use it with ~
[18:48] <Frots> ok
[18:48] <adac> bodly, Uhhh I just noticed that both, xserver-xorg-video-nv and  xserver-xorg-video-ati, is already installed. But that is my xorg.conf file: http://pastie.org/617687 How can i check with driver is currently up running?
[18:48] <ben_m> But I wouldn't
[18:48] <bodly> adac: checking...
[18:48] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[18:49] <Frots> it askes for a password
[18:49] <__lupo__> hi all, I`ve beem using the ubuntu 9.10 alpha... and I was keeping my system updated... but I just updated now and then I got an error...
[18:49] <jason_> I have but crunch bang linux on virtualbox 3.0 guest addtions do nothing when clicked using ubuntu 9.04 as host help please!
[18:49] <Frots> mdg: where can i get this rpm thing
[18:49] <__lupo__> does anybody had this problem
[18:49] <MenZa> Sounds like you've tried a bit already, matt098, but check this link.
[18:49] <legend2440> Loder3331: i dont have windows  maybe someone in channel  #fedora  would know
[18:49] <MenZa> !sound > matt098 (Please see the private message from the bot)
[18:49] <MenZa> j/w 69
[18:50] <ben_m> I'm going to try rm -rf ~ now ... I wonder if that actually works :D:D:D:D ~_~
[18:50] <bodly> adac: ok, there's no driver defined, so Xorg should be picking what it thinks is the best driver.  read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out which driver it is using.
[18:51] <shane2peru> nobody knows about nfs?  and how to bind it to specific ports?
[18:52] <Frots> hello
[18:52] <Frots> I lost my data
[18:52] <Frots> where is mdg
[18:52] <Frots> my desjtop is gone
[18:52] <bumbblebee> how can i access my shared folder in vbox
[18:52] <mdg> guys who is bruenig? he keeps harrassing me
[18:53] <mdg> how do you leave
[18:53] <K7522> shane2peru, I know that it uses ports 2049/tcp 2049/udp but as for binding them elsewhere I don't know.
[18:53] <grawity> bumbblebee: If the guest OS is Windows, it should be in Network somewhere.
[18:53] <Tomasso> anyone able to use the laptop in the sun? im not able to see the screen very well
[18:53] <Frots> FloodBot2: can you help me
[18:53] <shane2peru> K7522: well, on the surface it appears to use those ports, but when it comes down to it, other ports are involved and it is random for security
[18:53] <Ravenkin_laptop> bumbblebee, you install guest additions, then you have to create a share folder in the client, point virtualbox to the shared folder in the host, and then run mount -t vboxsf "host share name" "client share name" with the directory listed
[18:54] <PolitikerNEU> Tomasso: There are some new laptops reflecting the sunlight
[18:54] <shane2peru> K7522: I need to bind them so I can have an iptables firewall
[18:54] <PolitikerNEU> Tomasso: I mean: using the sunlight
[18:54] <jason_> guest additions vbox  not working nothing happens crunch bang linux ubuntu 9.04 as host os vox 3.0 help!
[18:54] <bumbblebee> grawity, Ravenkin_laptop i used  net use X: \\vboxsvr\ from command line
[18:54] <bumbblebee> worked but
[18:54] <Tomasso> mhhm that could be great, i cant see the screen very well, but the sun makes me feel good..
[18:54] <ben_m> Tomasso: there are linux distributions that actually solve that problem
[18:54] <keiya_> Hey, is there a client that connects to Exchange?
[18:55] <grawity> keiya_: Not really. You could try Evolution, but the method it uses isn't very liked by many.
[18:55] <Tomasso> ben_m , how they do it??
[18:55] <adac> bodly, ok so while checking Xorg.0.log It seems that the driver that is taken is indeed the nvidia one. here is my log: http://pastie.org/617696 So my the cause for the slowliness wathcing a video is caused by something other...like the read/write speed of my usb stick? Is that possible?
[18:55] <MenZa> keiya_: Evolution works better for me than Outlook ever did in Windows.
[18:55] <keiya_> I mean, one that connects not through OWA, which all of them seem to use... the OWA xml-rpc stuff is disabled on this one.
[18:55] <MenZa> ouch
[18:55] <Frots> Tomasso: I think it was puppy linux
[18:55] <keiya_> Or something.
[18:55] <ben_m> Yeah I think so
[18:56] <keiya_> Either way, it thinks it's exchange 5.5. It's 8.1
[18:56] <shane2peru> K7522: running rpcinfo -p will reveal the ports involved, however after a reboot, they are different, it is the nlock and mountd?  or something like that.
[18:56] <dubz> hi
[18:56] <Frots> is it true that emesene will replace pidgin?
[18:56] <Frots> I heard it on the news
[18:56] <tilt> Frots: url? :)
[18:56] <ben_m> this mroing
[18:56] <LjL> Frots, no it's not, you know it's not, and stop being silly.
[18:56] <K7522> shane2peru, tryin to sort it out, don't use nfs much.
[18:57] <LjL> thank you.
[18:57] <bodly> adac: yes, that is possible.  is the video you're trying to watch on the usb stick as well?
[18:57] <Frots> No for real
[18:57] <shane2peru> K7522: understood, I'm still learning. :)
[18:57] <adac> bodly, nope. Is from a server in my home network
[18:57] <vigo> Did UFW get replaced by ore with Firehol in 9?
[18:57] <keiya_> This rather makes this a no-go :/
[18:57] <shane2peru> vigo: no, UFW is still default
[18:57] <Frots> I meant that the standard messaging client that gets installed
[18:58] <Frots> is going to be emesene
[18:58] <grawity> Frots: Not emesene. (Empathy, maybe - but I doubt that too.)
[18:58] <vigo> Thank you.
[18:58] <Frots> why do you guys kick me if i ask something :s
[18:58] <Frots> empathy?
[18:58] <Frots> like in empty ?
[18:58] <jussi01> Frots: unless you have a support question please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:58] <adac> bodly, tried also to put it on the usb stick itself... which has quuite the same result as plying it from my samba server
[18:58] <Frots> jussi01: why so elitist
[18:59] <keiya_> This is rather problematic...
[18:59] <pro-rsoft> when you've configured two monitors as two separate X displays, how do you get the mouse from one to the other?
[18:59] <keiya_> I can access my mail through imap, but the calendar stuff... :/
[18:59] <benklein> In Evolution, how do I tell it to delete a problematic message from the queue of messages to send?
[18:59] <K7522> shane2peru, http://www.lowth.com/LinWiz/nfs_help.html
[18:59] <bodly> adac: sounds like a driver issue then.  there is also the proprietary nvidia driver and another opensource one called nouveau that i've never tried.
[19:00] <grawity> keiya_: Doesn't it have CalDAV or something like that?
[19:00] <DsXack> please help - i can't run banshee.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/271603/
[19:00] <matt098> MenZa, thx u
[19:00] <adac> bodly, I could install the proprietary one of course. Is there still a fallback then to vesa or another one if I'm on a different pc?
[19:00] <ben_m> I have some problems with the word "daemon" since I'm very religious. Can I somehow rename all "daemons" into something else
[19:01] <matt098> MenZa, it didnt fix my problem but the links might appreciate it
[19:01] <gwildor> ben_m, its day-mon   not dee-mon
[19:01] <legend2440> DsXack: are you running  karmic?
[19:01] <shane2peru> K7522: nice document, I didn't dig that one up, but it says to edit /etc/init.d/nfslock and I don't have that file
[19:01] <DsXack> legend2440, yes
[19:01] <legend2440> !karmic | DsXack
[19:01] <bodly> adac: no, i think it will only use the proprietary driver if you hardcode it into your xorg.conf.  then it won't do the fallback to vesa
[19:02] <gwildor> and ben got the boot...
[19:02] <DsXack> legend2440, sory
[19:02] <K7522> shane2peru, do you have the nfs-utils package installed?
[19:02] <zack19> is there a way to run my display at bigger then 800x600?
[19:03] <shane2peru> K7522: hmm, doesn't seem to be in the repos
[19:03] <adac> bodly, I see so if i would install the proprietary one I would have to write this explicitly into the xorg.conf. So that could cause trouble then on other pc's. Ok I guess that is not worth it ;)
[19:03] <bj0rn2> I've been looking for a way to stream my live audio (from soundcard) to upnp.. icecast does the streaming to http, but I can't find any upnp server software that can take a http sound stream? anyone know of something I could use?
[19:03] <J_P> Hi all
[19:03] <matt098> zack19,  make sure you ahve your video drivers installed and that your monitor supports a resolution bigger than that
[19:03] <bodly> adac: you could still try the nouveau driver for nvidia
[19:03] <J_P> Anyone know how I change the time (default 60s) to shutodown machine when press power button?
[19:04] <K7522> shane2peru, that's why you don't have that particular file; you can see what package they are in by looking at the "RPM" column. That package may be depreciated, try editing the rest of the ports and see if you've resolved it.
[19:04] <jschall> i play starcraft in wine, and i want to be able to alt-tab out of it. i'm able to now, but the screen resolution stays at 640x480. how can i make it change back to normal on alttab?
[19:04] <zack19> how do i go about updating or reistalling the display driver
[19:04] <adac> bodly, If kvm would detect the resoltion correctly  I would boot the usb stick with kvm in avirtual machine as guest. So I could program in the virtual machine (guest) and watch movies on my host system :)
[19:04] <zack19> i just switched to ubuntu so im a bit of a newb
[19:04] <adac> bodly, yeah i will probably try that out!
[19:04] <shane2peru> K7522: yeah, I will look through the rest, that is why I was looking for Ubuntu specific instructions.  Thanks for the tip though
[19:04] <K7522> shane2peru, actually it looks like most of the rest of it is ntfs-utils. Let me try to dig around some more.
[19:04] <matt098> zack19, do you ahve any idea what video card you ahve?
[19:05] <zack19> built in from a hp pavillion dv6700
[19:05] <n-iCe> what are the usb paths once you plug it
[19:05] <matt098> zack19, on a laptop ?
[19:05] <K7522> shane2peru,  well that link worked for others somwhere on the ubuntuforums.org site but again, may be depreciated
[19:05] <shane2peru> K7522: ok, perhaps your google magic is better than mine. ;)
[19:05] <n-iCe> what's the usb path once I plug it?
[19:06] <shane2peru> K7522: I dug up this old link: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-825094.html  and gave it a try, but it didn't seem to help
[19:06] <grawity> n-iCe: what usb paths?
[19:06] <n-iCe> How can I go to my usb files, from terminal
[19:06] <n-iCe> is my question
[19:06] <adac> bodly, Uhh from what I read in synaptics the  Nouveau are only for testing purpose at the moment...so I guess I will remain in the status quo for now
[19:07] <zamba> n-iCe: check under /media
[19:07] <grawity> n-iCe: you mean USB drive? /media is where all mountpoints are located
[19:07] <n-iCe> thanks!
[19:07] <johnT> n-ice, just a question... why terminal?
[19:08] <n-iCe> johnT: I don't have X
[19:08] <n-iCe> zamba: it isn't there
[19:08] <zamba> n-iCe: 'mount'
[19:09] <zamba> n-iCe: try that and see
[19:09] <silici0> how do i list my kernel list at grub?
[19:09] <silici0> +_=
[19:09] <matt098> zack19, hay can u do me a favour try this
[19:09] <zamba> silici0: check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:10] <J_P> Anyone know how I change the time (default 60s) to shutodown machine when press power button?
[19:10] <silici0> zamba:  has it any kind menu or something ?
[19:10] <matt098> zack19, go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[19:10] <silici0> i mean can i access a menu before the inicialization1?
[19:11] <zamba> silici0: not sure.
[19:11] <zamba> J_P: hum?
[19:11] <zack19> ok it popped up with a driver for the display\
[19:11] <matt098> zack19, select it and enable it
[19:11] <zack19> k
[19:12] <silici0> zamba:  thanks anyway :)
[19:12] <matt098> zack19, let me no if it works :D
[19:12] <jwhitley> karmic udev 0.6.3-2 is BROKEN.  It Pre-depends on "mountall", which doesn't exist.
[19:13] <grawity> jwhitley: #ubuntu+1 is for Karmic
[19:13] <jwhitley> ACK!  sorry NOT udev, upstart
[19:13] <shane2peru> K7522: gotta run for a bit, be back, if you dig something up, please post it here, I will leave this ope.
[19:13] <feydr> just upgraded and screen/gnome won't work -- 'no more ptys'
[19:13] <shane2peru> K7522: open*
[19:13] <jwhitley> @grawity, thanks.  switching now.
[19:13] <Grasso325> I'm new to ubruntu
[19:13] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[19:13] <K7522> shane2peru, yep; I found an interesting post here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570308 Unfortunately I have to go as well, work stuff
[19:13] <J_P> zamba: when I press power button, gnome show message that  ubuntu will shutodown in 60s. I would like change this time, understand?
[19:13] <Grasso325> who can I ask for help?
[19:13] <K7522> shane2peru, good luck I hope you get it sorted.
[19:14] <legend2440> J_P: if you right click the logout applet in top panel and choose preferences is there an option for   Show confirm dialogs for logout, restart and shutdown?
[19:14] <zamba> J_P: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978289&page=3
[19:15] <zggibox> does any1 know if there's a logout applet like this for xfce? that will shutdown in x seconds, or give you an option to cancel?
[19:17] <ChrizC> hey how do I set my resolution above 1024 x 768 in 8.04 LTS? (I've tried System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution but it only allows up to 1024x768. My monitor supports up to 1440x900)
[19:17] <matt098> ChrizC, are your video drivers installed?
[19:17] <ChrizC> matt098: indeed.
[19:18] <aloktherocker> @ChrizC check out ur xorg.conf,i guess u can get some help if u go thru the forums
[19:18] <tilt> zggibox: you can disable the confirmation dialogue
[19:18] <zaccour> anyone here use gyachi?
[19:18] <keiya_> Oh.
[19:18] <tilt> zggibox: you but the 60 seconds are hardcoded
[19:18] <keiya_> oh dear.
[19:18] <knopp1> hi friends, i have a problem with my sound on my HP probook 4510s
[19:19] <keiya_> Evolution doesn't support Exchange Server 2007. That's my problem, isn't it
[19:19] <jeromel> hi
[19:19] <kansan> having trouble loading up mysql on ubuntu hardy; heres my error message when attempting to start mysql: http://pastie.org/617720
[19:19] <J_P> zamba: I did gconf-editor but not find this option to disable 60 second shut down timer..
[19:19] <Phurl> hi all , where can i find the latest ffmpeg svn head debs?
[19:20] <J_P> legend2440: not
[19:20] <jeromel> I have a problem with the management of 2 sound cards !  I chose my usb sound card but when I play sound, the sound comes only from internal card
[19:20] <eni23> ﻿kansan: mabye should start mysqld?
[19:20] <J_P> I would like press button and imediatally shutodown machine
[19:20] <J_P> not wait that 60s timer
[19:21] <kansan> eni23, i got htat error message while trying to start it;  sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[19:21] <lichi-san> Salut tout le monde
[19:21] <Halitech> J_P, I think you should see another button to shutdown
[19:21] <lichi-san> Hello everyone
[19:21] <speedxxxcore> Hi, I'm remotly logged into a server, I need to determain if it has 2threads running or 2 real cores. How can I check this?
[19:21] <J_P> Halitech: uhh ?
[19:22] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > Is your server processor dual core ?
[19:22] <knopp> hi all, how i can config my sound on my HP probook 4510s
[19:22] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: I dunno
[19:22] <feydr> I can't use screen or gnome cause I'm getting errors about 'no ptys avail' -- tried updating through apt-get dist-upgrade and of course sys-vc dependency is broke..
[19:22] <feydr> any suggestions?
[19:22] <Halitech> J_P, you say when you shut down you see a 60 second timer, there should be another button on that screen to shut down without waiting the 60 seconds
[19:22] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: I wonder if there is some command to check it ... inside the os
[19:23] <lichi-san> speedxxcore > cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:23] <J_P> Halitech: this show when I press button on machine..
[19:23] <Halitech> J_P, yes
[19:23] <J_P> not software button
[19:23] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: what values in there?
[19:23] <J_P> I want press button in machjine and machine shutdown, without wait 60s
[19:23] <Halitech> J_P, oh, you aren't using the shutdown button on the taskbar?
[19:24] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > how many "processor" value do you have ?
[19:24] <J_P> Halitech: not. just pressgin hardware button, in machine
[19:24] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > or try uname -a
[19:24] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: I got processor 0 and processor 1
[19:24] <Halitech> J_P, does it pop up a window on the desktop?
[19:24] <J_P> So if that 60s is configurable, I can change that time to 5 for example, see?
[19:24] <garv> i have a asus p5n-d as far as i can tell there is no ubuntu support for the motherboard, ideas?
[19:24] <J_P> Halitech: yes,
[19:25] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > Your server is dual core
[19:25] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > So you have two threads
[19:25] <Len> Why cant my ubuntu can't find other computer's from my LAN by name just like Windows?
[19:25] <Halitech> J_P, that would be a BIOS option but if you get the window on the desktop, you can click shutdown now on there
[19:25] <J_P> Halitech: yes, I press button on machine and show 60s time in desktop. I not want wait that time how i do ?
[19:25] <jeromel> Pidgin use the usb sound card ! I do not understand =(
[19:25] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: so, is it two.. hyperthreading threads or 2 real cores?
[19:25] <J_P> Halitech: not not, is a configuration in ubuntu
[19:25] <Flare183> Len: Because you don't have samba installed.
[19:25] <d-eee> what it do?  my mic records perfectly in windoze, but in ubunut its wild static.  what's good, yo?
[19:25] <J_P> anyone can help me.. ?
[19:26] <haytham-med> hi all, is there an irc room for linux games
[19:26] <Len> Flare183: I have it installed
[19:26] <J_P> I just would like to configure that 60s time.. is posible?
[19:26] <Flare183> Len: Then you must configure it for it to work.
[19:26] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > I don't know, it can either be hyperthreading or dual core, but i don't know
[19:26] <Flare183> J_P: Yes, in your BIOS settings.
[19:26] <Len> Flare183: what I need to do?
[19:26] <bodly> speedxxxcore: what cpu model name is it?
[19:26] <d-eee> kanye west styles... what is the best program to convert a grip of wav files into mp3, holla?
[19:26] <J_P> Flare183: that is not a BIOS settings.. is a gnome settings
[19:27] <ek> Can someone here please explain to me how to use a bitmap font in gnome terminal? I've been trying everything I can find searching online and nothing seems to work.
[19:27] <Flare183> J_P: Your BOIS controls that setting not Ubuntu.
[19:27] <ek> .. Although, I could be looking at the wrong place or something.
[19:27] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > cat /proc/cpuinfo in model name, what is it ?
[19:27] <Halitech> J_P, see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229939
[19:27] <speedxxxcore> bodly: intel, cpu family 15, model 2, stepping 5
[19:27] <Len> Flare183: what I need to do to configure my samba correctly
[19:27] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > and in model name ?
[19:27] <Flare183> !samba | Len
[19:27] <ubliRj> dudes, let present me!!!!!
[19:27] <ubliRj> I'm finally connect to internet under
[19:27] <ubliRj> lx ubuntu
[19:28] <Halitech> Flare183, actually, according to the thread I just posted to J_P, its a built in 'safety' feature
[19:28] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: intel xeon 2.4
[19:28] <Flare183> Halitech: Ahh ok.
[19:28] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > You have a real dual cpre processor
[19:28] <duffydack> !swat
[19:28] <Halitech> Flare183, I was thinking it was part of the soft shut down option in the bios as well until I just googled it
[19:29] <Guest17730> my pidgin wont start it starts to load and it disappears help
[19:29] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > hope i resolved your problem
[19:29] <speedxxxcore> lichi-san: you sure it's real dual? =)
[19:30] <tisepti> how can i add items to the ubuntu menu from a shell script?
[19:30] <Len> Flare183: I can mount remote folders and share files using samba here on my ubuntu, but when I ping <some computer> I get an error message saying that host is unkown
[19:30] <bodly> speedxxxcore: several of those processors have hyper threading.  what speed is it?
[19:30] <lichi-san> speedxxxcore > All processors since Core 2 Duo are dual core, so, yeah, i'm sure
[19:30] <TrentonAdams> Hey guys.  I'm new to ubuntu, but a very experienced Linux user.  I'm having some troubles compiling third party software.  Is there a way of installing all the standard system development files, such as openssl's devel packages, and what not?
[19:31] <TrentonAdams> I'm looking more for a "quick" way of doing it.
[19:31] <speedxxxcore> bodly: lichi-san: I think this cpu is older.
[19:31] <Len> Flare183: but the ping works for IP, just don't work for names
[19:31] <Pici> TrentonAdams: install the build-essential package and if you're recompiling a package that is already in the repos, then use apt-get build-dep packagename  to grab the build dependencies.
[19:31] <speedxxxcore> bodly: 2.4
[19:31] <TrentonAdams> Pici: Thanks muchly, I'll try it out.
[19:31] <Flare183> Len: That's because samba doesn't like using "names".
[19:32] <bodly> speedxxxcore: search for "family 15" on this page:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors
[19:32] <d-eee> indeed,
[19:33] <speedxxxcore> bodly: I think I found it... it has 1 core... but 2 smp?
[19:33] <Laden> has there any anti virus for ubuntu?
[19:33] <Len> Flare183: Why? it's more simple to use name than IP even because the IP comes from DHCP and name it's static.
[19:33] <Zopiac> i accidentally uninstalled a few programmes, along with the default image viewer. what was it called?
[19:33] <phux> Laden, yes but why use it?
[19:33] <Mr-Woof> laden: you can download AVg
[19:33] <bodly> speedxxxcore: yes, i think that's the hyper-threading
[19:33] <speedxxxcore> bodly: lichi-san: 2 smp cpus it seems to have? is that threads?
[19:33] <Myrtti> !virus | Laden
[19:33] <Mr-Woof> handy to have anti virus, if your streaming/handling files for windows
[19:33] <pacopil> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[19:33] <Flare183> Len: I have no idea, that's up to the programmers.
[19:34] <bodly> speedxxxcore: hyper-thread makes one core look like 2 to the OS
[19:34] <Laden> doguntu
[19:34] <speedxxxcore> bodly: ah.. makes sense...  btw, is there any built in benchmarking tool?
[19:35] <Len> Flare183: lol, indeed. Do you think that if I install a DNS server here like BIND would solve this problem?
[19:35] <TrentonAdams> Pici: Is there a way of having all of the standard build deps, for system packages, like the kernel, openssl, and all others that are commonly used, automatically installed?
[19:35] <TrentonAdams> Pici: Or do I have to do per package?
[19:35] <bodly> speedxxxcore: depends on what you want to benchmark.  apt-cache search benchmark will get you a list
[19:35] <Len> Flare183: the network Im trying to use wont have Internet Connection.
[19:35] <TrentonAdams> What are ya'll using for gnome IRC clients?
[19:35] <Vinceman> any mencoder users here?
[19:35] <Flare183> Len: Maybe, or you could just setup a static route on your Router.
[19:36] <lichi-san> Need to leave now
[19:36] <Flare183> !anyone | TrentonAdams, Vinceman
[19:36] <arifd86> simple BASH question: how to create a variable that is the combination of two other variables, without spaces? Thank you! :D
[19:36] <TrentonAdams> Flare183: huh?
[19:36]  * Flare183 facepalms
[19:36] <Pici> TrentonAdams: build-essential includes the standard stuff to compiling anything, but for specific package build dependencies you'd have to go per package.  After doing build-dep a few times you'll start to have to get less and less packages.
[19:37] <Newbie> Hello guys i was wondering if anyone could assist me with setting up "kismet", I'm having a problem with the "source=" section of the config, [source=madwifi_ag,ath0,madwifi’] being an example, but i'm using a nx6125 and the "Broadcom B43 wireless driver", Could anyone tell me what to replace "madwifi_ag" and "madwifi" with to work with my Broadcom B43 driver's?
[19:37] <McShane>  #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:37] <McShane> mt
[19:37] <Martin10> q
[19:37] <Laden> what's the advantage of edubuntu over ubuntu?
[19:37] <Len> Flare183: I have some guests computers that may plug into this network, and I'd like just to type their name and find. Don't want to go fiding its ip
[19:38] <Vinceman> I get the following error message when I use mencoder: Option ovc: Unknown suboption pcm
[19:38] <Vinceman> Error parsing option on the command line: -ovc, what have I done wrong?
[19:38] <Halitech> Laden, Edubuntu has more things inncluded for school aged kids
[19:38] <J_P> hey, anyone can help me how to alter 60s timer when I press button in machine box (not software button, just hardware power button) ?
[19:39] <Flare183> Len: Sorry. But that's the only way to do it, unless they are all on a wired connection in the same workgroup.
[19:39] <Vinceman> Flare183, nothing works :-(
[19:39] <Flare183> Vinceman: memcoder --help
[19:39] <Flare183> mencoder*
[19:39] <TrentonAdams> Pici: I did "apt-get build-dep openssl, but the headers still don't appear to be available, as I get an error "openssl/crypto.h: No such file or directory"
[19:39] <Vinceman> mencoder --help
[19:39] <Vinceman> ok
[19:40] <Vinceman> in terminal
[19:40] <Flare183> Vinceman: Yes.
[19:40] <xor> Hi there.
[19:40] <Chousuke> TrentonAdams: build-dep would install the build-dependencies for openssl
[19:40] <Chousuke> TrentonAdams: install openssl-dev
[19:40] <xor> How do subtitles work on totem?
[19:40] <Len> Flare183: Ok, in anycase i'll try to install bind. Thx
[19:40] <xor> I have a sub file named exactly as the movie name and it doesn't work.
[19:40] <Flare183> Len: No problem.
[19:40] <Vinceman> Flare183 I got the parameters for the command off a website, they are not in the help file
[19:40] <xor> I also have subtitles set to load automatically when the movie loads, and still doesn't work.
[19:40] <Vinceman> windows is probably better than linux
[19:41] <xor> I renamed the file to srt didn't work either.
[19:41]  * agl is deeply regretting updating Karmic this morning - vim (and everything else linked against glib) stopped working.
[19:41] <xxxm> is there an italian here?
[19:42] <Pici> agl: Karmic support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[19:42] <Pici> !it | xxxm
[19:42] <mikefletcher85> is it possible to use the dd command ad have the output file be a windows share?
[19:42] <TrentonAdams> Chousuke: thought of that, but there is no openssl-dev
[19:42] <xxxm> tnx
[19:42] <fufu> what application should I use to create FLOWCHART in Ubunut?
[19:42] <Chousuke> TrentonAdams: oh, hm, libopenssl-dev?
[19:42] <Myrtti> fufu: dia might be useful
[19:43] <TrentonAdams> Chousuke: nope
[19:43] <Pici> TrentonAdams, Chousuke: its libssl-dev
[19:43] <fufu> myrtti how do i check if DIA is installed?
[19:43] <am0k0815> latex fufu
[19:43] <Myrtti> fufu: aptitude show dia
[19:44] <fufu> can I use add/remove? to check for DIA or LAtex?
[19:44] <TrentonAdams> Pici: I tried libssl-dev previous, but I get an error. http://pastebin.com/d58468b25
[19:44] <Myrtti> fufu: might do, dia isn't installed by default
[19:44] <Myrtti> fufu: neither is any latex stuff
[19:44] <Myrtti> fufu: I'm not too familiar with add/remove
[19:44] <fufu> How can I install DIA?
[19:45] <fufu> whats the difference between Add/Remove and synaptic manager?
[19:45] <shane2peru> any nfs wizards out there?  How can I bind my nfs to a specific port?
[19:45] <lowlycoder> is there a way in ubuntu to switch mouse buttons? (i.e. using a right handed mouse in the left hand)
[19:46] <Pici> fufu: synaptic has all the packages available in the repos, add/remove just has a subset of them.  Add/remove is more for user friendly applications.
[19:46] <mikefletcher85> is it possible to use the dd command ad have the output file be a windows share? or is there a way to have a windows share show up as either a folder or a drive?
[19:47] <fufu> ok
[19:47] <Pici> TrentonAdams: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:47] <genii> shane2peru: Use the -p and -P switches of nfsd. They are fairly well documented
[19:48] <shane2peru> genii: can you elaborate a little?  I'm not that good. :)
[19:48] <ekimmargni> How can I set networkmanager to request a specific IP address from my router's DHCP server?
[19:48] <shane2peru> genii: or, point me to some documentation, that would be great
[19:48] <Newbie> Could anyone help me with setting up Kismet with my Broadcom B43 wireless?
[19:48] <fufu> i want to do a flowchart to help describe relationship between my forms and databases, is DIA good for that, or any other apps?
[19:49] <mikefletcher85> is it possible to use the dd command ad have the output file be a windows share? or is there a way to have a windows share show up as either a folder or a drive? Im running Ubuntu 8.04 32bit using the Live CD.
[19:49] <Halitech> ekimmargni, don't think you can but you should be able to set the router to assign a specific IP to a MAC address
[19:49] <ekimmargni> fufu: yes, dia is meant for that sort of diagram
[19:49] <Pici> mikefletcher85: What are you trying to do? Copy files to a windows share?
[19:50] <MarkG> Hi, anyone smart enough to work out the mess than is Mail servers under Linux?
[19:50] <AAA> Hello All!
[19:50] <ekimmargni> Halitech: heloo again :) -- I was just on with linksys support & they say this router doesn't support static dhcp leases, but that if you request a valid IP outside the DHCP range (ie below the starting IP address for DHCP server) then it will assign that IP to the requesting device
[19:50] <J_P> please, anyone know how change that time (60s) out when press hardware (not software) button on desktop ?
[19:50] <antikap> hi
[19:50] <shane2peru> genii: hmm, I checked the man page, and that doesn't seem to be what I mean, nfs uses 2049, and that is fine, however nfslockd changes every reboot, and I need to bind that to a port number, as well as mountd
[19:50] <antikap> is the ext4 file system as secure as NTFS?
[19:50] <MarkG> I got a problem trying to work out what I need to install to do what I plan.   Here is my unanswered post on the Ubuntu forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1264609
[19:51] <johnT> antikap, what do you mean for 'secure'?
[19:51] <Halitech> ekimmargni, bummer on not supported, why not just assign a static IP to the machine in question?
[19:51] <michelle_> hey
[19:51] <ekimmargni> Halitech: so, if I request 192.168.1.[99..2] it'll assign the requested IP on the LAN
[19:51] <antikap> resistent against electrical cuts for example
[19:51] <Vinceman> Flare183 the manual says that mencoder is used for encode mplayer playable movies to other mplayer playable formats
[19:51] <mikefletcher85> Pici: I'm trying to make an image of the host of to another drive
[19:52] <RUMMY> how can I restore apt.conf file or where can I get it fot ubuntu 8.10
[19:52] <Vinceman> Flare183 but since MOV is not an mplayer playable movie I have tough luck
[19:52] <ekimmargni> Halitech: how would I do that? My ISP gives me an IP via DHCP, my router gives me an IP via DHCP & neither will allow static DHCP leases (well, unless I want to pay a fortune)
[19:52] <AAA> I am on ubuntu server 9.04 and trying to install java. running command "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin" give couldn'y find package error. multiverse is for sure uncommented in sources.list. Any ideas?
[19:52] <GobiTheGoblin> Have you guys hear about new MS training material for Best Buy?
[19:52] <ekimmargni> Halitech: err, *dynamic* IPs via DHCP
[19:52] <fufu> cool im installing DIA using add/remove thanks for the help guys!
[19:52] <Myrtti> GobiTheGoblin: how's that related to this channels topic
[19:52] <TrentonAdams> Pici: 9.0.4
[19:52] <Myrtti> GobiTheGoblin: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[19:52] <jackson_> i hav problem wit compiz
[19:53] <GobiTheGoblin> Myrtti, k
[19:53] <jenistin> I have a quick question about Squid Proxy conf. I have specified the https_port, and it prompts me for the PEM passphrase when I start the daemon, but it doesn't bind the port specified.
[19:53] <genii> shane2peru: About the lockd setup, no immediate ideas
[19:53] <ekimmargni> jackson_: #compiz ?
[19:53] <Halitech> ekimmargni, if the machine is behind the router then simply set it as static with the IP address you want, wouldn't have anything to do with your isp
[19:53] <johnT> antikap, ext4 makes more intensive use of cache, so it might be 'less' secure in that way. I never had problems with ext4 tough, I suffered a lot of power outages here and didn't lose any data. IMHO you can use ext3 is you are really concerned
[19:53] <ekimmargni> Halitech: Yes, but I'm saying this router doesn't support static DHCP leases (yay, good purchase choice)
[19:53] <Pici> mikefletcher85: As long as you had the windows share mounted somewhere, you could output dd to a file.
[19:53] <RUMMY> where can I get apt.conf file for ubuntu 8.10
[19:53] <Halitech> ekimmargni, you wouldn't do it on the router, you would configure it on the machine in question
[19:53] <shane2peru> genii: hmm, seems to be uncharted waters for Ubuntu, I found documentation for it on Suse, but it is different
[19:53] <jackson_> it checks for intel graphics
[19:54] <ekimmargni> Halitech: aha! where? how?
[19:54] <Halitech> ekimmargni, network manager I think will allow you to do it
[19:54] <_s_k_y_> Hi guys, is ubuntu user friendly like windows? I have used linux about 10 years ago I'm wondering if it's worth installing.
[19:54] <johnT> S_k_y : definitely yes ;)
[19:54] <jenistin> _s_k_y_, yes
[19:54] <johnT> its of course worth installing or trying the live image
[19:54] <_s_k_y_> Do packages still install all over the place?
[19:54] <johnT> then you can decide
[19:54] <Halitech> _s_k_y_, grab the latest Live cd and try it for yourself, only you can judge if its ready for you
[19:55] <AAA> so any help about installing java?
[19:55] <jenistin> _s_k_y_, Aptitude is a great package manager
[19:55] <jackson_> package for 9.04 for compiz
[19:55] <jackson_>  for intel i86
[19:55] <johnT> AAA, search it in the package manager or download the binary from sun site
[19:55] <mikefletcher85> Pici: would it look like "dd if=/path of=smb://IP/Folder"?
[19:55] <_s_k_y_> thanks for you responses :)
[19:55] <Halitech> ekimmargni, I usually just manually edit /etc/network/interfaces myself
[19:56] <jenistin> I have a quick question about Squid Proxy conf. I have specified the https_port, and it prompts me for the PEM passphrase when I start the daemon, but it doesn't bind the port specified.
[19:56] <dsuch> AAA: you sure had an Internet connection during install? (just been bitten by that :-), perhaps you just need to sudo apt-get update  :-))
[19:56] <jackson_> can u help ekimmargni
[19:57] <J_P> anyone?
[19:57] <genii> shane2peru: Seems to be something on the subject here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/28706
[19:57] <jenistin> J_P, what's the question?
[19:58] <Newbie> Can anyone help me with getting Kismet/Aircrack working along-side a B43 chipset?
[19:58] <Mokesnap> i am taking a linux class online and have switched my computer over to ubuntu but now i dont know how to view my lecture recording which are .jnlp files that open with java.  is there an app out there that wil allow me to view my recordings?
[19:59] <shane2peru> genii: ahh, that is very relevant!!!  Thanks.
[19:59] <genii> shane2peru: You're welcome
[19:59] <Halitech> !java
[19:59] <jenistin> Mokesnap, what happens when you run them with your java engine?
[19:59] <TrentonAdams> Pici: you there?
[20:00] <J_P> jenistin:  I want change time 60s when  power button is pressed. Or just power down without wiat anytime. I try System > Preferences > Power Management (or Screensaver > Power management) > General > Select what to do "when power button is pressed" I select (shutdown). but not works. I press power button and ywt show message 60s to shutodown.
[20:00] <jenistin> J_P, have you checked the gnome config?
[20:01] <J_P> jenistin: where? what is command ?
[20:01] <Pici> mikefletcher85: No, you'd need to make a real mount for the samba share. i.e: mount -t smbfs \\IP\path /mount/something
[20:01] <rayne> Hey, I am currently using the latest release of Ubunty and am unable to hear Sirius's web player. sound works everywhere else though, including sites like YouTube
[20:01] <Pici> TrentonAdams: Sorry, had to take a call
[20:01] <jenistin> J_P, gconf-editor is the app
[20:02] <seidos> J_P: you can use shutdown command in your shell
[20:02] <J_P> jenistin: yes, but I not find any entry to this config..
[20:02] <rayne> It says it is connected and shows no signs of issues, but I can't hear anything from anystations
[20:02] <J_P> seidos: jenistin:  I want change time 60s when  power button is pressed. Or just power down without wiat anytime. I try System > Preferences > Power Management (or Screensaver > Power management) > General > Select what to do "when power button is pressed" I select (shutdown). but not works. I press power button and ywt show message 60s to shutodown.
[20:02] <grawity> Pici: Actually, GVFS mounts (the GNOME ones) are accessible under ~/.gvfs/ like any other filesystem.
[20:02] <jenistin> rayne, is Sirius using a flash app or what?
[20:02] <mikefletcher85> Pici: would it look like "dd if=/path of=smb://IP/Folder"?
[20:03] <seidos> J_P: ah, when power button is pressed
[20:03] <J_P> jenistin: you know in gconf-editor  what is option ?
[20:03] <rangua> hey, could anyone help me identify a process?
[20:03] <Halitech> J_P, did you read this that I posted earlier? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229939
[20:03] <Pici> TrentonAdams: What version of libssl-dev does it look to be trying to install.  Look at the output of apt-cache policy libssl-dev
[20:03] <jenistin> J_P, not off hand, no
[20:03] <rangua> its the one with PID=0
[20:03] <rayne> jenistin, it appears that it is a flash app, it launches a seperate browser for its player
[20:04] <rangua> and for some reason, it's receiving data from the internet... all the time.. i can't stop (nor i want to kill it before knowing what it is)
[20:04] <Pici> mikefletcher85: No, the shell doesn't know what smb:// is, so you'd either had to mount it in Gnome and use whatever it creates in ~/.gvfs or mount it manually with: sudo mount -t smbfs //IP/Folder /media/path/ and then use /media/path/file in of=
[20:04] <J_P> Halitech: yes (Right click on your username (the "Fast User Switch Applet") and select Preferences.). That works when sotfiware button is clicked. but for hardware button (when power button is pressed) not works.
[20:05] <jenistin> rayne, it's hard to say what may be the issue without looking more closely; have you contacted their support?
[20:05] <Halitech> J_P, because it is a safety feature to prevent the system from being shutdown in case its an accidental press
[20:05] <mikefletcher85> Pici: thanks i'll give that a shot
[20:06] <rayne> jenistin, TBH, their support is total shit. It took me over an hour last time I contacted them just to stop my billing cycle
[20:06] <peshom> Hello everyone. Anyone can give me some advice with using rsync for two-way syncing?
[20:06] <J_P> Halitech: yes. But I would like shutodown without question or wait 60s
[20:06] <tdn_> How do I change language from English to Danish? System wide for all users.
[20:06] <J_P> Halitech: if that 60s was configurable, is fine. but where that time is configurable ?
[20:06] <J_P> where ?
[20:07] <Halitech> J_P, then find a distro that doesn't include that feature like Debian
[20:07] <jenistin> rayne, flash is flash; does it work in Windows for you?
[20:07] <kansan> trying to edit /etc/sudoers .... but its read only
[20:07] <rayne> jenistin, don't have winblows on this computer
[20:07] <Halitech> kansan, sudo visudo
[20:07] <J_P> Halitech: good idea. Change a intire distribuition just because is not possible configure a timeout from 60s to 5s. That's a a joke!!
[20:08] <Halitech> J_P, if it bothers you that much to hit the power button and click shut down or wait the 60 seconds then yeah
[20:08] <jenistin> rayne, what is the mime statement for the applet?
[20:08] <huwaw69> what is the channel for nix mint?
[20:09] <rayne> jenistin, Not sure what a mime statement is
[20:09] <bodly> J_P: you could try asking in the #gnome channel
[20:09] <Cynthia> huwaw69: could be #linuxmint
[20:09] <J_P> Halitech: this not make sense
[20:09] <huwaw69> thanks Cynthia
[20:09] <Laden> how  can i do social chat through x chat?
[20:09] <seidos> J_P: I have Ubuntu ask me what I want to do when I press the power button.  If I want to shutdown, I press power then click "shutdown"...but I rarely shutdown, I usually suspend
[20:09] <kervel> any ETA yet for the initscripts / sysv-rc problems in karmic ?
[20:10] <rayne> jenistin, testing a possible solution I found on some forums, involves installing VLC and its plugin for Firefox
[20:10] <peshom> Hello everyone. Can anyone give me some advice with using rsync for two-way syncing?
[20:11] <Halitech> J_P, if there are no config options in gconf or the power settings then its something a lot deeper that you would need to change, and it may not be easy
[20:11] <jenistin> rayne, VLC's support of flash files is spotty
[20:11] <jenistin> rayne, are you using adobeflashplayer?
[20:11] <jake__> any ideas why pidgin would stop sending messages and keep giving me errors?
[20:11] <huwaw69> #join
[20:11] <rayne> jenistin, yes, the ones from the labs for 64bit support
[20:11] <jake__> it happens all the time - i dont get it using msn on windows
[20:11] <huwaw69> !join irc.spotchat.org
[20:11] <Halitech> J_P, all I know is on my Debian install when I click shutdown, it shuts down with no 60 second wait message
[20:11] <jenistin> rayne, I'm not familiar with that release; labs?
[20:12] <rayne> jenistin, which is the weird thing... is I can watch and hear youtube videos and imbedded flash adds on other sights
[20:12] <rayne> jenistin, its like their development part of their site, apparently the 64bit version isn't exactly done
[20:12] <ph33r> hi, I am using ubuntu 9.04, the screen flickers and freezes when I enable compiz, it worked flawlessly in suse 11.1 though, so it works, could anyone tell me where I am going wrong ?
[20:13] <huwaw69> ph33r try ubuntu ibex
[20:13] <jenistin> rayne, oh I see. Well Sirius internet radio website says that the audio is streamed in WMV
[20:13] <rayne> jenistin, ah... hence why VLC would be needed
[20:13] <ph33r> huwaw69, what's ibex ?
[20:13] <huwaw69> ph33r its ubuntu 8.10
[20:13] <jenistin> rayne, yes, but VLC is spotty with WMV as well. Have you tried mplayer?
[20:14] <rayne> jenistin, yes, is there a plugin for Firefox for it though?
[20:14] <J_P> thats 60s is configurable in some place...
[20:14] <huwaw69> or perhaps your video card is not good enough for compiz ph33r?
[20:14] <ph33r> huwaw69, can't it work in 9.04 ?
[20:14] <BenCal> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu Karmic. Following a system update and trying to boot with kernel 2.6.31-10 I receive this error and it stops: pci_enable_pcie_error_reporting failed  - Can somebody give me advice?
[20:14] <J_P> Any ubuntu developer here ?
[20:14] <jenistin> rayne, yes, and I've used it successful for asx streams
[20:14] <Myrtti> !karmic | BenCal
[20:14] <huwaw69> ph33r it works, but it depends on the user's system
[20:14] <ph33r> huwaw69, the same laptop could work, I used suse with compiz in the same lappy
[20:14] <jenistin> rayne, but I think I was using the plugin on Windows, dunno if there is one for Linux
[20:15] <huwaw69> is suse the latest version too ph33r?
[20:15] <Pici> J_P: #ubuntu-devel, but make sure you read the channel topic before you ask.
[20:15] <ph33r> huwaw69, yes 11.1
[20:15] <huwaw69> how did you install compiz?
[20:15] <huwaw69> ph33r?
[20:15] <rayne> jenistin, mediaplayerconnectivity work?
[20:15] <ph33r> huwaw69, from the add/remove software
[20:16] <huwaw69> what did you search>?
[20:16] <huwaw69> just compiz?
[20:16] <ph33r> huwaw69, I installed ccsm, fusion and emerald
[20:16] <Pici> ph33r: 1) You shouldnt need to install anything for compiz, it comes pre-loaded on 9.04. 2) What graphics card are you using?
[20:16] <jenistin> rayne, dunno, sorry :( I have to go, best of luck to you!
[20:16] <ManDay> When I installed ubuntu I set my right CTRL as "Compose key" (a kernel configuration?) - is there anything I'll have to set for X11 to make it work??
[20:16] <rayne> jenistin, VLC freezes firefox... sooo... removing and putting mplayer back on
[20:16] <ph33r> Pici, intel 950
[20:16] <J_P> Pici: in the topic don't show about devel!!
[20:16] <J_P> Pici: are you sure ?
[20:17] <rayne> ph33r, Have you enabled the restricted drivers for your video card?
[20:17] <Pici> J_P: You asked where the developers were, I answered.
[20:17] <ph33r> rayne, not yet, let me check
[20:17] <bgamari> J_P: The easiest way to find out what you I looking for is just to read the source
[20:18] <J_P> Pici: ahh ok
[20:18] <ph33r> rayne, how do I enable them ?
[20:19] <SirLX> hi
[20:19] <J_P> bgamari: yes, download gnome sources...
[20:19] <johnT> ph33r, from ubuntu 9.04 the path is > System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[20:19] <bgamari> J_P: yep
[20:20] <rayne> >> Administration >> Hardware Drivers
[20:20] <ph33r> johnT, done that, none in use
[20:20] <SirLX> how can i change the temporary directory (TMPDIR)?
[20:20] <rayne> ph33r, see above :)
[20:20] <johnT> ph33r, any restricted driver available for activation in that list?
[20:20] <matt098> Hello, how is everyone today?  I have a small sound issue with ubuntu janty, this is a fresh install all updates have been downloaded and I have tried following this guide " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 " but still no luck.  Can anyone help me ???
[20:21] <rayne> ph33r, Unless you enable restricted drivers, you video card will have limited functionality and be unable to run the graphical effects of Compiz
[20:21] <ph33r> johnT, yes atheros madwifi card
[20:21] <wildc4rd_> evening all
[20:21] <johnT> ph33r, no restricted video drivers available then?
[20:21] <ph33r> johnT, nopes
[20:22] <johnT> intel 950, right?
[20:22] <ph33r> johnT, yes :)
[20:22] <ph33r> johnT, acer 5573
[20:22] <SirLX> hi, how can I change dir temporary directory (tmpdir)?
[20:22] <johnT> Ph33r, Googling...
[20:23] <ph33r> johnT, ok :)
[20:23] <grawity> SirLX: Some programs use the environment variable $TMPDIR.
[20:23] <grawity> SirLX: But in the end, you're not going to get rid of /tmp completely.
[20:23] <SirLX> grawity, thanx
[20:24] <kikbguy> Hey guys, I'm new to irc chat but I have a problem with ubuntu, should I just ask my question here?
[20:24] <johnT> ph33er, one of the first result I've found is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55837 ; shortly, it suggests to try 'vesa' drivers. I'm searching further...
[20:24] <grawity> kikbguy: Yes, just ask.
[20:24] <legend2440> ph33r: http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224161
[20:25] <behappy> its possible to browser a site on my server with an imitation Ip using squid or any whatever proxy , because I get blocked from that site and I am enable to looking from it ?
[20:26] <ahmad> HI
[20:26] <grawity> behappy: Yes.
[20:26] <kikbguy> Okay, when I install the ubuntu 9.04 live cd on my hp desktop computer, the screen is shifted to the left so that the rightmost quarter of my screen is black and the rest is 3/4 of ubuntu
[20:26] <adaptr> behappy: how did you manage to get blocked from accessing your own server
[20:26] <hedkandi> about synaptics:
[20:26] <scunizi> What's the server and channel for Open Office? their site doesn't list one.
[20:26] <grawity> scunizi: Then maybe they don't have one?
[20:26] <hedkandi> python-qt4:
[20:26] <hedkandi>   Depends: python-central (>=0.6.7) but 0.6.5ubuntu1 is to be installed
[20:26] <scunizi> grawity: there is one.. I've just forgotten it.
[20:26] <hedkandi> what does that mean?
[20:26] <behappy> adaptr, I get my server blocked to access to the target site
[20:26] <Pici> scunizi: #openoffice.org
[20:27] <scunizi> Pici: on freenode?
[20:27] <Pici> scunizi: Yes.
[20:27] <behappy> grawity, squid ?
[20:27] <kikbguy> I wanted to know how to fix the screen shifting to the left issue
[20:27] <ph33r> legend2440, checking
[20:27] <scunizi> Pici: thanks.. use to be gimp.net I think..
[20:27] <trism> scunizi: they are all listed here http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication
[20:27] <genii> scunizi: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IRC_Communication   lists pretty much ALL their channels
[20:27] <genii> trism: Hehe
[20:27] <johnT> kikbguy, install the correct video drivers
[20:28] <scunizi> trism: genii thanks
[20:28] <johnT> try to activate restricted video drivers if you got them in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, otherwise download them
[20:28] <hedkandi> #join debian
[20:29] <kikbguy> I'm sorry that I'm a newb and everything, but do you know how I would install the correct video drivers?
[20:29] <tomek_> wtf??
[20:29] <kikbguy> gotcha, thanks so much guys
[20:29] <Myrtti> tomek_: excuse me?
[20:29] <tomek_> yes
[20:30] <Myrtti> kikbguy: depends on what hardware you have
[20:30] <boscop> after playing fretsOnFire, my resolution is very low. how can I reset it to the value before? and why does this happen with so many games?
[20:30] <tomek_> ale chuje z was  rozumiecie po polsku
[20:30] <Myrtti> !pl | tomek_
[20:30] <kikbguy> myrtti, i have an hp desktop pc if that helps
[20:30] <tomek_> na raczej
[20:30] <tomek_> no*
[20:31] <garv> my chipset doesnt seem to be supported by ubuntu are there any generic drivers i can use to try and get things working?
[20:31] <hedkandi> what does this mean?
[20:31] <hedkandi> python-qt4:
[20:31] <hedkandi>   Depends: python-central (>=0.6.7) but 0.6.5ubuntu1 is to be installed
[20:31] <tomek_> KTO Z POLSKI
[20:31] <tomek_> ????????
[20:31] <Myrtti> !english | tomek_
[20:31] <Myrtti> tomek_: /join #ubuntu-pl
[20:31] <LjL> hedkandi: it means that the package python-qt4 depends on version 0.6.7 or above of python-central, but the rest of the system requires 0.6.5ubuntu1 for some reason
[20:31] <tomek_> yes
[20:32] <hedkandi> so we're saying that I have ubuntu1 0.6.5 on my current system
[20:32] <tomek_> hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[20:32] <MxxCon> hey folks, for ubuntu server do i need to have console-kit-deamon installed?
[20:32] <LjL> hedkandi: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[20:32] <hedkandi> hardy
[20:32] <jdamico> server 200.12.33.55
[20:33] <tomek_> have you coffee
[20:33] <tomek_> ??
[20:33] <Myrtti> tomek_: please behave and use English, or join #ubuntu-pl
[20:33] <ior3k> did the last karmic updates make the machine unbootable for anyone else?
[20:33] <Myrtti> tomek_: this is the support channel, not random chitchat
[20:33] <Myrtti> !karmic | ior3k
[20:33] <Pici> ior3k: Karmic support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 please
[20:33] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[20:33] <tomek_> huj wam w dupe
[20:33] <LjL> hedkandi, do you have any non-default respositories enabled?
[20:34] <ior3k> Pici: got it, sorry
[20:34] <hedkandi> indeed.
[20:34] <Myrtti> tomek_: you will be removed from the channel, if you do not start listening
[20:34] <SpaceBass> trying to install wordpress - used ap-get and ran the install script, but when I try and access it locally firefox wants to download the php page rather than execute it
[20:34] <LjL> hedkandi: like what, for instance?
[20:34] <hedkandi> ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4
[20:34] <boscop> how can I restore the resolution to before the game?
[20:34] <K7522|AFK> boscop, System > Preferences > Display
[20:35] <hedkandi> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[20:35] <boscop> K7522|AFK, haha, I can't access "system"
[20:35] <LjL> hedkandi: do you have backports enabled?
[20:35] <hedkandi> sorry what are backports please?
[20:35] <boscop> K7522|AFK, anything on the shell I can do?
[20:35] <LjL> hedkandi: it's a repository (containing "back-ported" software)
[20:35] <tafsen> Hi.  How can I start programs with my remote controll?
[20:35] <bodly> boscop: use xrandr
[20:35] <Vinceman> why is MOV not workable with for anything that isn't apple?
[20:35] <Vinceman> the MOV-format..
[20:35] <K7522|AFK> boscop, gnome-display-properties
[20:36] <LjL> hedkandi: actually, do you even have the "updates" repositories enabled? (you should, but you might not)
[20:36] <Platypus-Man> I'm having issues with my laptop (Atheros AR242x), it works with Alternate Atheros "madwifi" driver, but only until I restart it, then I have to go through the process of disabling, restarting, plugging in TP cable while fondling etc all over again... did some Googling, but only found outdated posts... any tips?
[20:37] <hedkandi> I'll have a look
[20:38] <TrentonAdams> Pici: I left the computer for a bit.  libssl-dev would be "Candidate: 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2", but it complains about "libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2) but 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.3 is to be installed"
[20:38] <boscop> K7522|AFK, thank you very much
[20:38] <TrentonAdams> Pici: "it" being apt-get complains about the 0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.3 to be installed, or whatever.
[20:38] <hedkandi> Let me check: updates are for bug-fixes to my existing hardy software, so it could mean upping the minor minor version number
[20:39] <K7522|AFK> boscop, my pleasure :)
[20:39] <hedkandi> whereas a backport could up the major version number
[20:41] <trism> Vinceman: if you install libquicktime1 you should be able to play movs
[20:41] <behappy> !lynx
[20:42] <behappy> !elinks
[20:43] <hedkandi> i think the best thing is to get python-qt4 from intrepid backports
[20:43] <hedkandi> how would I do this then?
[20:43] <hedkandi> what is the line for sources.list?
[20:46] <_markus__> I've been running karmic sine a few weeks, after I upgraded a few minutes ago, I can't boot into my system anymore (neither normal nor recover). The last lines when running recover are that it writes starting script in bottom-local and ...-local, then nothing. I can press ctrl-alt-del and it reboots. During the reboot sequence I see that the filesystem was mounted read only yet. Any ideas?
[20:47] <Pici> _markus__ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:47] <_markus__> thx
[20:48] <hedkandi> guys: what is in this repo?
[20:48] <hedkandi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[20:48] <hedkandi> backports of what for what?
[20:48] <Pici> !backports | hedkandi
[20:48] <hedkandi> not helpful
[20:49] <hedkandi> what is in intrepid backports?
[20:49] <hedkandi> spell it out for me if you're smart enough
[20:49] <Pici> hedkandi: No need for the atitude.
[20:49] <bodly> hedkandi: you want a list of packages? or an explanation of what backports is for?
[20:49] <genii> hedkandi: Being abusive doesn't inline people to assist you or answer questions.
[20:49] <hedkandi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[20:49] <quake_guy> I am running synergy with my PC and Ubuntu. The PC drives it and I would like to get my keyboard to respond normally on my linux box. Right now I cannot hold down the "down button" to make cursor go down. The right arrow work fine but not the left. Any suggestions?
[20:50] <hedkandi> making dubious accusations will get you thrown out, genii
[20:50] <hedkandi> so in deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[20:50] <hedkandi> do I find intrepid software backported for other things?
[20:50] <hunger__> hey all, anyone know of a way to print out a USB's power consumption, and max power output (from what I've read, 5V and 500mA)
[20:50] <kudi1> is it possible to mount a baa file?
[20:50] <hedkandi> or do I find software for intrepid?
[20:51] <bgamari> hunger__: probably in sysfs somewhere
[20:51] <Pici> hedkandi: Its packages from newer releases of Ubuntu backported *to* Intrepid. See http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-backports/ for a list of packages.
[20:51] <bodly> hedkandi: it is newer software backported to intrepid
[20:51] <hedkandi> ok thank you for your help
[20:52] <johnT> hunger, I don't think its possible to do a such thing, but I might be wrong
[20:53] <Vinceman> trism, I have it installed but it doesn't run, can you help me out?
[20:53] <Vinceman> I already tried chmod
[20:53] <trism> Vinceman: it's not an executable, you should just try opening it in one of the media players like totem
[20:53] <trism> Vinceman: opening a .mov file that is
[20:53] <Vinceman> trism but it was already installed it said when I tried to install it
[20:54] <trism> Vinceman: if that doesn't work, just install ubuntu-restricted-extras, that should get you all the codecs you need
[20:55] <hunger__> johnT, i'm beginning to think the same, i can find out how much a device is drawing, and per a USB spec the usb module is supposed to say what it is, but from what i've read so far there's no way
[20:55] <hunger__> bgamari, thanks i'll go poking around in there
[20:56] <frostburn> what's a good avant window manager replacement?
[20:56] <grikdog> is ext4 stable under 2.6.28-15-generic?
[20:56] <johnT> grik: yes it is
[20:57] <MarkG> Can someone take a moment to explain what packages I need to collect POP3 mail from my ISP, store in on my Ubuntu server, and be able to access it by IMAP anywhere on my home LAN?
[20:57] <hunger__> ok thanks everyone off to do more reading
[20:57] <grikdog> johnT: thx
[20:57] <Vinceman> trism apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras?
[20:58] <cemc> is there a way to encrypt a user's home AFTER ubuntu got installed?
[20:58] <alabama> will your home directory be encrypted when your screensaver turns on, if you have the feature enabled?
[20:59] <bodly> MarkG: fetchmail to get the mail, courier-imap to server them up
[21:00] <johnT> cemc do you have a separate /home partition or just a directory?
[21:00] <IceWewe> I'm having buffer I/O issues with a RAID 5 array. I've independently tested all the disks and they all pass a full media scan, could something else be happening?
[21:00] <trism> Vinceman: yeah
[21:00] <MarkG> Does Dovecot offer any advantages over courier-imap?
[21:00] <cemc> johnT: just a directory
[21:00] <Vinceman> trism the movie is supposed to last about five minutes, but it goes by without image in a few seconds
[21:00] <MK-ubuntu> i guess ubuntu-server room is always quiet
[21:01] <bodly> MarkG: actually, now that you mention it, i'm using dovecot, not courier
[21:01] <kudi1> can ubuntu mount .daa
[21:01] <Vinceman> apt-get says it doesn't know ubuntu restricted
[21:01] <johnT> check this : http://blog.gnist.org/article.php?story=EncryptedSwapAndHomeUbuntu - this is a complex but comprehensive guide about enrcrypting home and swap too. But of course there are lots of easier alternatives
[21:01] <johnT> like: re-installing ubuntu with home encryption on, or using another OpenSource utility
[21:01] <trism> Vinceman: oh are you saying the movie plays, just not well?
[21:01] <johnT> like Truecrypt
[21:02] <MarkG> I want the easiest to setup, I spend an age to get dovecot working (its now sorta working).   How does sending mail fit into the scheme of things?  in a setup like this?
[21:02] <cemc> johnT: is Truecrypt safer then encrypting the home ?
[21:02] <trism> Vinceman: and the package I was talking about is spelled ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:02] <Vinceman> ok
[21:03] <MarkG> I suppose what I am not saying, is I will never be opening or sending emails from the Ubuntu system directly, it will always be an intermediary
[21:03] <Vinceman> trism it's a big package
[21:03] <johnT> cemc, Truecrypt is Safe as it uses AES 256, but truecrypt creates a separate file container
[21:03] <johnT> Truecrypt does not encrypt home directory,
[21:03] <MK-ubuntu> hey guys,
[21:03] <MK-ubuntu> I have a question
[21:03] <johnT> it simply offers you strong encryption with ease
[21:03] <trism> Vinceman: yes it has alot of stuff, many video codecs, and probably other stuff...the restricted codecs are lumped together in a bunch of poorly named packages, so it is hard to tell what has what
[21:04] <bodly> MarkG: if you're not going to send mail from this box then you don't really need to install sendmail, postfix, etc.
[21:04] <MK-ubuntu> on my VPS (server) I got 2 IPs assigned to me, but i got the 1st one to work but cant get the second one to work.. can you guys help?
[21:04] <tobixen> I just did "apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade" on my karmic system, and now X doesn't work anymore ... is that a known issue?  Worked fine earlier today
[21:04] <cemc> johnT: ok, I'll look into it, thanks
[21:04] <johnT> but you can't encrypt home directory with truecrypt. this program can create a file container or encrypt a whole partition.
[21:04] <trism> Vinceman: that's why I initially said just the libquicktime1 package, but you said that wasn't working for you
[21:05] <cemc> johnT: like cryptsetup ?
[21:05] <Vinceman> trism so I do run the risk a bit of my PC becoming one big chaos :-(
[21:05] <galtom> tobixen, Yes it is :)
[21:05] <cowgarden> hi, i tried to install madwifi and now my wireless interface is gone (was wlan0 with a ath5k driver) I did not blacklist anything yet
[21:05] <johnT> almost, www.truecrypt.org ;) it is a simple-to-install and to use program, check it
[21:05] <tobixen> galtom: so what do I do, wait and hope the issue is resolved until tomorrow? :)
[21:05] <alabama> will your home directory be encrypted when your screensaver turns on, if you have the feature enabled?
[21:05] <johnT> its cross-platform too
[21:06] <MarkG> bodly: However I DO want the mails to live in a IMAP "sent" folder.
[21:06] <trism> Vinceman: you could try installing vlc or mplayer, they use a different set of codecs, and mov should work out of the box in them
[21:06] <johnT> alabama, I never heard about such feature
[21:06] <MarkG> so I think I do need to send them via the ubuntu system.  I'm not sure how it all connects together tho!
[21:06] <galtom> tobixen, I think yes. I tried to fix, but I can't
[21:06] <bodly> MarkG: i would be surprised if there are not several how-to's out there with step-by-step instructions.
[21:06] <cowgarden> alabama, when your home is encrypted it will be decrypted on demand only
[21:07] <cowgarden> alabama, means it is encrypted as long as your screen is locked
[21:07] <MarkG> I have looked and not come up with much in the way of howtos, or they are just not the right setup
[21:07] <guntbert> !karmic | tobixen
[21:07] <MarkG> I thought my requirements here would not be too out of the ordinary.
[21:07] <galtom> ubottu, THX
[21:07] <alabama> cowgarden: so if my screens locks with the screensaver, my home directory is encrypted?
[21:08] <jpds> galtom: Try: "ubottu, thanks"
[21:08] <galtom> ubottu, Sorry. I mean thank you
[21:08] <bodly> MarkG: basically i pop mail down from a server and serve it out via imap at home, just like you want to.  but i send my mail through gmail and sent mail doesn't get saved on my local server.
[21:08] <bodly> MarkG: so i'm not really sure how that would hook in there either.  :-)
[21:08] <madunix> net
[21:08] <galtom> :)
[21:08] <tobixen> guntbert: of course, known risk.
[21:09] <cowgarden> alabama, if you have to type your password again to use the computer, yes (and if you enabled the home encryption at all)
[21:09] <bro> can i upgrade to nautilus 2.4 on hardy?
[21:09] <MarkG> bodly:  I thought it was just me being a thicky!!!
[21:09] <guntbert> tobixen: yes :-) but please talk about it in #ubuntu+1 only
[21:11] <bodly> MarkG: i guess you would just setup postfix and configure it to use the same maildir that dovecot does
[21:11] <alabama> cowgarden: what kinds of things are *not* encrypted when you enable home directory encryption?
[21:11] <johnT> everything else
[21:11] <delly> 'ello there. Is there a way to disable tapping for the touchpad? I have tried gsynaptic and one other GUI, both say they want a line added to the xorg.conf, but is there a easier way to turn of the tapping?
[21:11] <bodly> markg: then have postfix forward to the server you pop mail from
[21:11] <obiwan_> hi, please how can i move in text mode? mouse wheel won't work
[21:12] <johnT> pag up pag down
[21:12] <bgamari> obiwan_: you mean scrollback?
[21:12] <obiwan_> yeah
[21:12] <cowgarden> alabama, everything appart from /home/ and in home are: you docs, the desktop and program settings. programms temp and the whole system are outside of it
[21:12] <obiwan_> scrollback hehe
[21:12] <MarkG> are postfix and sendmail similar applications?  Do they serve the same general purpose?
[21:12] <bgamari> obiwan_: Shift-PgUp/PgDown
[21:12] <obiwan_> i don't have page down johnT :(
[21:12] <bgamari> delly: look at xinput
[21:12] <seidos> 2011 is the next LTS release?
[21:12] <obiwan_> don't have page down :(
[21:12] <cowgarden> any Ideas about my missing wifi interface?
[21:12] <johnT> lol don't have pgdown?:D
[21:12] <khufu> Is synaptic opensource?
[21:12] <obiwan_> it's $200 netbook xP
[21:12] <johnT> lol
[21:12] <Vinceman> trism, the installation says it's saving stuff to blabla.exe.. but I thought exe files don't work in linus
[21:12] <cowgarden> Khisanth, 4 shure
[21:12] <johnT> you made my day
[21:12] <bgamari> khufu: the synaptic package manager?
[21:13] <khufu> Yes
[21:13] <trism> Vinceman: it is probably just extracting codecs
[21:13] <cowgarden> sry Khisanth
[21:13] <bgamari> khufu: yes
[21:13] <delly> bgamari: anything more spesifix? Xinput is quite huge, or do i have to look trough the entire mess?
[21:13] <khufu> And whyis it named just like the Mouse manager under windows+
[21:13] <khufu> ?
[21:13] <obiwan_> nice it has, it works with Fn key didn't know
[21:13] <bodly> MarkG: yes, there are quite a few mail transfer agents (MTAs)
[21:13] <bgamari> delly: sorry, the xinput utility
[21:13] <obiwan_> i've learned two things  :)
[21:13] <trism> obiwan_: depends on what you're using, if you're in irssi and you want to scrollback, and you don't have pgup/down like me you can hit ESC then p to go back and ESC then n to go forward
[21:14] <Vinceman> trism, this is really heavy (wo)man...
[21:14] <johnT> :D obiwan, even the crappiest netbook can't miss keys
[21:14] <kudi1> what is a multi sector image?
[21:14] <bgamari> delly: xorg comes with a command line utility for interacting with the xinput subsystem
[21:14] <khufu> I don't like this synaptic
[21:14] <bgamari> delly: If your xorg is new enough tapping is exposed as an input property
[21:14] <khufu> Does debian ship with it?
[21:14] <khufu> or only ubuntu
[21:14] <Brandano> hi people. Quick stupid question: is it safe to uninstall old linux kernel header packages? apart from compiling stuff they should be unneeded, I think?
[21:14] <delly> bgamari: ok, where am i suppose to look for figuring it out?
[21:15] <obiwan_> and hirzontal scrolling?
[21:15] <johnT> khufu you can install another package manager if you want
[21:15] <bgamari> khufu: I don't believe it's in the default debian installation
[21:15] <bgamari> delly: man xinput
[21:15] <MarkG> so I need fetchmail to collect POP3 mail from the remote ISP deliver it to my ubuntu mailbox, then dovecot to serve it up, and I need sendmail to send it out again to my ISP's SMTP server.  Is that the nuts of it?
[21:15] <johnT> just as you install any other application
[21:15] <feydr> been fighting upgrades on jaunty today.. short story is I lost my kernels and rebooted on accident -- wanting to install new kernel on mounted partition.... how would I go about doing that?
[21:15] <bodly> MarkG: yup, that should do it.
[21:15] <obiwan_> my screen has only 9 inches and lines don't break, they go beyond the screen
[21:15] <obiwan_> i need to scroll right anyway :S
[21:15] <HANC> i am kind of getting back into linux the last verion that i used was redhat ether 6.1 or 7 and sthen went to the service is their anyone who has any suggestins for ome decent tools and does the x interface still exist?
[21:15] <trism> Vinceman: oh wait, are you installing the restricted-extras? the exe files are fonts, it is installing the mscorefonts
[21:15] <danbhfive> feydr: do you have a livecd?
[21:15] <bgamari> feydr: chroot
[21:15] <johnT> obiwan, are you serious? :)
[21:16] <obiwan_> yeah haha this piece of ... computer my mother bought haha
[21:16] <feydr> danbhfive: yep
[21:16] <Vinceman> trism, when I run the mov it does scroll along the bar for a few seconds
[21:16] <khufu> what happened to the tor package?  it's nowhere in ubuntu
[21:16] <Vinceman> trism but I see and hear nothing
[21:16] <Brandano> HANC: if you are used to redhat you might want to try Fedora too. On the other hand Ubuntu is friendlier to the casual user
[21:16] <feydr> bgamari: I figured... so I just need to maybe chroot /media/disk/ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something??
[21:16] <obiwan_> how can i move right? shift + home and shift + end which are to left and right of av page and re page won't work
[21:16] <johnT> sorry obiwan, I can't help you :)
[21:16] <bgamari> feydr: yeah, perhaps explicitly install linux-image or something as well
[21:17] <delly> bgamari: Ok, i found the touchpad on the list command. But that is not really helping, what am i suppose to do?
[21:17] <danbhfive> feydr: follow this to chroot, then install linux-generic
[21:17] <johnT> it is a very rare issue
[21:17] <m1k3y> cha0s: DO I LOOK LIKE A BITCH TO YOU?
[21:17] <trism> Vinceman: it may just be a video that doesn't work on linux, I've run into a few, although mplayer will play almost anything thrown at it
[21:17] <m1k3y> cha0s: DO I LOOK LIKE A BITCH TO YOU?
[21:17] <danbhfive> feydr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update%20Failure
[21:17] <johnT> mikey moderate yourself
[21:17] <obiwan_> ok no problem johnT :)
[21:17] <khufu> Man
[21:17] <khufu> Ubuntu really lowered the rib eh
[21:17] <bgamari> obiwan_: I've never heard of horizonal scrolling in a tty
[21:17] <Vinceman> mplayer is not movieplayer
[21:17] <Vinceman> trism?
[21:18] <ikonia> khufu: ?
[21:18] <obiwan_> please does anybody know how to scroll right in real text mode? (not terminal). Lines don't break, they go beyond the screen and i can't read them. How can i scroll right?
[21:18] <bgamari> delly: you want the set-prop command
[21:18] <trism> !mplayer | Vinceman
[21:18] <ikonia> obiwan_: what terminal are you using ?
[21:18] <arand> khufu: tor has their own repo to add, look through their site.
[21:18] <bgamari> obiwan_: are you on a framebuffer console?
[21:18] <ikonia> obiwan_: and what do you mean by "real text mode"
[21:18] <roygbiv> anyone know which package i need to install to get the smbmount command?
[21:18] <obiwan_> bgamari, that's cause usually screens are bigger than the usual tty wide format, but this is smaller haha
[21:19] <ikonia> roygbiv: smb-client
[21:19] <obiwan_> i mean im in ctrl alt f1, it's not terminal emulation
[21:19] <roygbiv> nice! thank you ikonia
[21:19] <bgamari> obiwan_: are you on a framebuffer though?
[21:19] <Vinceman> trism, I get: Failed to open LIRC support.
[21:19] <bgamari> obiwan_: or standard vga text mode?
[21:19] <alabama> cowgarden: do you know where I could find a list of what important things are *not* encrypted when you encrypt the home directory?
[21:20] <obiwan_> don't know what's a framebuffer exactly, i know it's kind of file where you say what graphic goes on each pixel , but don't know how to tell if i'm in framebuffer or not
[21:20] <mluser-work> Hello everyone.. what is ubuntu's equivalent to gentoo's /etc/conf.d/local.start script?
[21:20] <trism> Vinceman: http://blog.timc3.com/2009/02/10/mplayer-disable-lirc/
[21:20] <bgamari> obiwan_: lsmod
[21:20] <obiwan_> /etc/init.d/ command start
[21:20] <delly> bgamari: i found set-int-prop, xinput manual incomplete?
[21:20] <obiwan_> or service command start
[21:20] <bgamari> delly: set-int-prop would work as well
[21:21] <bgamari> delly: I just have a newer version of xinput
[21:21] <obiwan_> ok bgmari, what should i look for?
[21:21] <bgamari> obiwan_: fbcon
[21:21] <obiwan_> ok brb plz w8
[21:21] <obiwan_> fbcon     46112      0
[21:21] <obiwan_> is that?
[21:22] <delly> bgamari: "Sets an integer property for the device.  Appropriate values for format are 8, 16, or 32, depending on the property." now it don't make sense, if i am suppose to set a value, then how do i figur out what controls the tapping behaviour?
[21:22] <cowgarden> alabama, all impoerant stuff should be encrypted appart from the tmp and tools like truecrypt which could be modified secretly by a third
[21:23] <bgamari> delly: I'd help you more if I could, unfortunately my karmic machine is broken at the moment
[21:23] <lordmetroid> How big is it recommended to have /boot ?
[21:24] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm trying to add a user, but I don't understand what the groups are. Also, shouldn't I be able to put a user in more than one group?
[21:24] <obiwan_> little
[21:24] <khufu> 96MB
[21:24] <bgamari> delly: look at the output of list-props on the device
[21:24] <bgamari> delly: you should see something concerning tapping
[21:24] <obiwan_> yeah lord_daemon
[21:24] <trism> lordmetroid: I usually do 128MB
[21:24] <obiwan_> sry lormetroid
[21:24] <delly> bgamari: Ok, thanks. I think i should be able to do the rest myself now :P
[21:24] <obiwan_> sry , i mean Mike_lifeguard
[21:24] <alabama> cowgarden: what?
[21:24] <lordmetroid> SHould I make /boot as first partition in the beginning of the disk?
[21:24] <obiwan_> Mike_lifeguard,  useradd -m user -G more groups
[21:24] <Mike_lifeguard> obiwan_: are you sure you mean me?
[21:25] <candrodor> I opened my Home folder from the Places menu.  Clicked on another folder and it crashed.  Now there are no icons on my desktop and clicking on Panel lists/items etc doesn't get a response.  Can I do anything other than restart?
[21:25] <obiwan_> yeah you and only you hehe
[21:25] <khufu> lordmetroid, yeah sure
[21:25] <candrodor> I mean, the file browser window crashed.  not the whole computer.
[21:25] <Mike_lifeguard> obiwan_: sure, but shouldn't the gui utility do that too? O-o (also there is no explanation of what the groups mean)
[21:25] <khufu> lordmetroid, it helps
[21:25] <bgamari> delly: the property name you are looking for it Synaptics Tap Action
[21:25] <obiwan_> of course
[21:25] <bgamari> delly: Look in the synaptics manpage for more
[21:25] <miv> PL
[21:25] <obiwan_> i always love terminal mode
[21:25] <obiwan_> but there's a gui way
[21:25] <cowgarden> alabama, there is no list, but someone could modifie your programs without your knowledge. for full encryption take the alternate installer and reinstall ubunu fully encrypted
[21:25] <obiwan_> user-manager i think it's called
[21:26] <Mike_lifeguard> obiwan_: I know. I have it open, and I'm finding it deficient :)
[21:26] <miv> ja przełączyć sie na polski?
[21:26] <tete> hi there, i have a problem.. i installed a game and then my system crashes (kernel oops), and when i try to login now my mouse and keyboard is not working (in X)
[21:26] <roygbiv> 9.04
[21:26] <alabama> cowgarden: modify my programs?
[21:26] <tete> can someone help me plz? how can i boot without X?
[21:26] <tete> and what could be the problem?
[21:26] <Vinceman> trism, great I don't get that message anymore but yet still it doesn't work.. it says "Exiting (End of file)"
[21:26] <obiwan_> Mike_lifeguard, then don't know anything better :(
[21:26] <bgamari> tete: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[21:26] <candrodor> actually, the power button in the top corner is unresponsive as well.  So I don't know how to restart now either.
[21:27] <Vinceman> trism I chmod 777ed the mov file too which was 644
[21:27] <bgamari> tete that will bring you to the console
[21:27] <cowgarden> alabama, just in case someone sneaks to you computer and boots from an usb stick he could modifie programs.... and your encryption does not protect you against that
[21:27] <tete> bgamari, is not working because as soon as X starts the mouse and keyboard is not working so ctrl+alt+f1 cant do it
[21:27] <trism> Vinceman: you shouldn't need to change the permissions, 644 is correct
[21:27] <alabama> cowgarden: how could the programs be modified?
[21:27] <bgamari> tete: then boot into rescue mode
[21:27] <obiwan_> bgamari, what  should i do? i have fbcon              4612      0
[21:27] <no_one> hi there
[21:27] <miv> PL
[21:28] <miv> PL
[21:28] <bgamari> obiwan_: hmm
[21:28] <tete> and what should i do then? ^^
[21:28] <cowgarden> alabama, like any data
[21:28] <bgamari> obiwan_: that's a good question
[21:28] <own> i ditched gnome and kde for good, but i'd like to still have a popup execute command prompt that i can bind to a compiz command keyboard shortcut.  anyone know of a good package?
[21:28] <bastid_raZor> !pl | miv
[21:28] <bgamari> tete: presumably revert whatever change you did to cause the machine to crash
[21:28] <tete> dpkg-reconfigure xorg is not working
[21:28] <alabama> cowgarden: like putting a backdoor in them?
[21:28] <bgamari> obiwan_: perhaps disable fbcon
[21:28] <cowgarden> alabama, yes
[21:28] <trism> Vinceman: you may just be out of luck with that particular movie file
[21:28] <Vinceman> noooooooooooooooooooooO
[21:28] <tete> bgamari, i just installed a game... ok then i'll try this but i have no idea why the mouse/keyboard is not responding
[21:29] <bgamari> obiwan_: might want to look into fbset
[21:29] <tete> and i think the problem is somewhere else
[21:29] <pixlbox> having a problem with google images for some reason the thumnails wont show up, ive cleared the browser cache but stil nothing
[21:29] <obiwan_> ok but what if i disable fbcon will that break my console?
[21:29] <bastid_raZor> tete: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:29] <tete> ok ill try it
[21:29] <no_one> can anyone please tell me how to create a virtual dvd DL filesystem, that I can with any burner sotf
[21:29] <bgamari> obiwan_: shouldn't. it should just use standard text mode vga instead
[21:29] <miv> #pl
[21:29] <adalal> pixlbox: is your internet connection okay?
[21:29] <obiwan_> i don'ti do'nt have fbset bgamari
[21:30] <alabama> cowgarden: how do you get it to encrypt the entire system upon screen-lock?
[21:30] <miv> #ubuntu.pl
[21:30] <genii> miv: /join #ubuntu-pl
[21:30] <pixlbox> yeah its about 4 meg download
[21:30] <candrodor> Ah, ok, ctrl-alt-f1 got me sorted.  thanks guys.
[21:30] <Mike_lifeguard> Where are sudo attempts logged?
[21:30] <adalal> pixlbox: is this only with that one browser (firefox i presume)
[21:30] <miv> #ubuntu-pl.
[21:30] <pixlbox> yeah
[21:30] <obiwan_> bgamari, i get WARNING: ALl config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat, it will be ignored in a future release.
[21:30] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: /var/log/auth.log
[21:31] <Mike_lifeguard> thx
[21:31] <miv> #ubuntu-pl.
[21:31] <obiwan_> nice erUSUL didn't know about it
[21:31] <miv> aha-widzę
[21:31] <erUSUL> obiwan_: :)
[21:31] <bgamari> obiwan_: looks pretty harmless'
[21:31] <cowgarden> alabama, for full encryption take the alternate installer and reinstall ubunu fully encrypted, it has an option for that
[21:31] <no_one> ? can anyone please tell me how to create a virtual dvd DL filesystem, that I can with any burner sotf .
[21:31] <miv> thank you
[21:32] <obiwan_> ok bgamari, so what now? that messages was given after modprobing -r fbcon
[21:32] <erUSUL> no_one: "virtual dvd DL filesystem" ??
[21:32] <no_one> lol
[21:32] <LeChacal> hello, i need to change the order in which certain modules are loaded so that one is loaded before the other, if i change the order of the lines in the /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/modules.dep file is that all i need to do?
[21:32] <no_one> yes
[21:32] <alabama> cowgarden: I'm aware of that but how do you get it to encrypt the *entire* system upon screen-lock?
[21:32] <adalal> pixlbox: have you tried any other browser (ie. chromium, opera, etc.)? (btw, it makes it easier if you tag your lines here with the username of the person ur talking to... ie. jus type in ad , and then hit tab)
[21:32] <delly> Ok, can anybody explain why the synaptics(note the S) manpage is dated? It lacks information on MANY of the capabilities that is listed by xinput.
[21:32] <erUSUL> no_one: can you elaborate ? DL== double layer?
[21:33] <bgamari> alabama: you'd be waiting a whle
[21:33] <bgamari> while*
[21:33] <adalal> pixlbox: or in my case.. adal and then tab
[21:33] <cowgarden> alabama, but seriously, id it cp or nuclear weapons? /home/ or full encryption, it will be stil the easiest to look at the password you are typing or get it by the noise of the keys or anything
[21:33] <pixlbox> adalal: yeah ive tried both them browsers but when it comes to google images none of the thumnails load
[21:33] <cowgarden> alabama, nothing is decrypted until it is used, so a locked screen locks all data too.
[21:34] <bgamari> obiwan_: I'm not sure disabling fbcon is the best way out
[21:34] <bgamari> obiwan_: as I said, look into fbset
[21:34] <heoa_> How can I redirect matches in Irssi like "/lastlog perl -f ~/file_perl_discussion"?
[21:34] <duryodhan> hi .. I am trying to upgrade to karmic and it says "Failure" because I have installed unsupported packages .. where can I get a list of the packages which are causing this problem ?
[21:34] <adalal> right... hmm.. are all the other pictures loading fine?
[21:34] <no_one> well there are soft for other os's that emulate a virtual dvd witch can use to copy data into and when we want we simply make a copy of the virtual fs to phisical dvd
[21:34] <guntbert> !karmic | duryodhan DON'T
[21:35] <bgamari> obiwan_: if you still do want to disable fbcon, then you need to add it to the modules blacklist
[21:35] <no_one> erUSUL,  well there are soft for other os's that emulate a virtual dvd witch can use to copy data into and when we want we simply make a copy of the virtual fs to phisical dvd
[21:35] <pixlbox> adalal: yeah in other sites and stuff, pictures load up perfect, in google images the thumnails just arnt loading, it's weird
[21:35] <duryodhan> guntbert: but I want to :) .. I need all the newer gnome libs and its a pain to compile each one by one
[21:35] <MenZa> duryodhan: Karmic is very, very, very broken right now. Wait. For the love of God, wait.
[21:35] <MenZa> duryodhan: It's broken. Very broken. Broken to the extent that it is useless. If you upgrade now, you might not be able to even boot your system.
[21:35] <erUSUL> no_one: i do not know of anything simlar for linux
[21:36] <duryodhan> MenZa: wow .. I never saw anything like that online
[21:36] <no_one> erUSUL,  ok  tnaks
[21:36] <lorenzo> hi, I did a complete backup with remastersys; in the end, I got the message that there was too much data for an .iso file. Is the folder that remastersys created a valid backup or do I have to remove some stuff and do it over again? thank
[21:36] <adalal> pixlbox: that is weird, maybe it's to do with your local google server, try searching with google.co.in, or google.co.uk instead, and see if things improve
[21:36] <MenZa> duryodhan: It's only just now, today.
[21:36] <guntbert> duryodhan: listen a few minutes to the crying and whing in #ubuntu#1 right now - and you'll reconsider
[21:36] <duryodhan> MenZa: Maybe I can get the iso and install it beside my current system ?
[21:36] <MenZa> duryodhan: If you're still interested, I suggest monitoring #ubuntu+1 and see when it's fixed.
[21:36] <no_one> erUSUL,  ok  thanks.   I've found ways to do that, but only regular 4.7 Gb dvd
[21:37] <pixlbox> adalal strange thing is it seems to be just my pc other computers in the house are working fine
[21:37] <adalal> oh..
[21:37] <duryodhan> MenZa: cool thanks .. but can I like get the alpha 5 DVD and install it on the side of current ubuntu install ?
[21:37] <adalal> pixlbox: some sort of issue with caching :S.. u said u cleared your caches?
[21:37] <MenZa> duryodhan: Sure. But I strongly suggest not running any upgrades on it.
[21:37] <MenZa> For now, that is.
[21:37] <duryodhan> MenZa: ohh ok .. thanks ! thanks for the warning guys
[21:37] <pixlbox> adalal: yep , several times in all browsers
[21:38] <tdn> How do I have a user automatically login on start up?
[21:39] <bastid_raZor> tdn: what version of ubuntu?
[21:39] <adalal> pixlbox: do you have any parental controls setup? or something to do with your dns server?
[21:39] <twisted`> could someone explain to me why the hell openssh-server is not in the repositories?
[21:39] <trism> tdn: System/Administration/Login Screen
[21:39] <twisted`> and why the nl.archive.ubuntu.com is not working
[21:40] <guntbert> duryodhan: for experiments use a virtual machine
[21:40] <twisted`> cause it's ridiculous that it just won't work
[21:40] <trism> tdn: on the Security tab
[21:40] <hemant> Hi, is there a way to disable ipv6 w/o having to reboot. I read some posts on the internet, and all said i should reboot
[21:40] <pixlbox> adalal: no, :S ill have a mess around with network settings and the router hopefully that will sort it
[21:40] <pixlbox> cheers
[21:40] <hemant> i am using jaunty
[21:40] <ikonia> twisted`: looks to be working to me
[21:40] <adalal> pixlbox: try using a different internet dns server
[21:41] <ikonia> hemant: you'll need to reboot
[21:41] <hemant> or better still is there a way to speed up internet w/o disabling ipv6?
[21:41] <ikonia> hemant: get a faster connection ?
[21:41] <ikonia> hemant: if you're seeing that slow a connection, I doubt it's ipv6
[21:42] <hemant> ikonia: yeah, with the same internet and other OS (same computer) internet works super fast, but its just with ubuntu
[21:42] <kingnerd> hemant, you can change the way browsers pull different objects and render the page
[21:42] <kingnerd> It might just be because Windows is a slow O/S?
[21:42] <ikonia> hemant: it's possible you have a weak kernel module driving your network card. What model card is it ?
[21:43]  * kingnerd hasn't used Windows in 7 years
[21:43] <ikonia> kingnerd: he didn't meantion anything about windows
[21:43] <tdn> trism, thanks.
[21:43] <hemant> kingnerd: its not the brwoser, i m install jdk6 using apt-get
[21:43] <kingnerd> Oh okay
[21:43] <kingnerd> heh
[21:43] <kingnerd> Wait, the problem is under Ubuntu?
[21:43] <kingnerd> Do you have restricted-drivers enabled?
[21:43] <hemant> hmm i duno, how can i check that
[21:43] <ikonia> hemant: what network card do you have in your machine
[21:45] <emydvx> ciao
[21:45] <hemant> in restricted drivers i only see nvidia
[21:45] <ottobert> hallo freunde...;-))
[21:45] <jhattara> does the gparted's check option give verbose output ?
[21:46] <vix2> i need to dld 20 youtube vids
[21:46] <vix2> is there a plugin dld manager i cn use
[21:46] <ottobert> hello, friends;-))
[21:46] <vix2> where i cn queue it and leave
[21:46] <emydvx> ma questo canale è italiano?
[21:46] <ottobert> somebody speaking german in here????
[21:47] <ikonia> ottobert: #ubuntu-de for german chat
[21:47] <ikonia> !it | emydvx
[21:47] <oobd> hi
[21:47] <trism> vix2: if you have the links to all the videos you could make sure wget is installed an do a wget -i name_of_file_with_one_url_per_line.txt
[21:47] <haytham-med> anyone wants to play freetennis multiplayer?
[21:48] <fabio_> what is freetines?
[21:48] <ikonia> haytham-med: this is a support channel
[21:48] <vix2> how do u get name of a flv file frm a url
[21:48] <ikonia> haytham-med: please don't canvas for gaming recruits
[21:48] <velo__> hi there ... i have installed 9.04 on my lenovo s10e. i have a problem- i`m not able to connect to the network- wifi and cable connection not working. please help
[21:48] <ikonia> vix2: sorry what ?
[21:48] <haytham-med> ok sry
[21:48] <vix2> how do i wget the flv file
[21:48] <vix2> whose name i do not know
[21:49] <johnT> wildcards?
[21:49] <ikonia> velo__: if your wifi and cable connection is not working the common cause would be either both network cards not working under ubuntu, or the dhcp server is dead
[21:49] <johnT> like wget ftp://ftpsite.org/*
[21:49] <johnT> this command will download every file
[21:49] <trism> vix2: I use the http live headers addon in firefox to grab stuff like that, but you could probably just use one of the video downloading plugins to get the url
[21:50] <TheCheeze> does anyone here use alltray?
[21:50] <kaffien> I have my rd1000 auto mounting like it should but it will not auto dismount when i press the eject button
[21:50] <vix2> hmm
[21:50] <qe2eqe> vix2, Offhand, there's the python and perl 'mechanize' modules, theres also wget file;  wget `grep file *.flv`
[21:50] <trism> johnT: not really going to help grabbing the flv because the videos are loaded by flash after the page is rendered
[21:50] <kaffien> im not in the folder, i do not have anything copying to it
[21:50] <velo__> ikonia: dhcp on router is ok ... but how can i make the network cards working?
[21:50] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: I did, but there are issues with e17 so no more
[21:50] <ikonia> velo__: what network cards are in it ?
[21:51] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, e17?
[21:51] <adalal> velo__: your networking is probably disabled... tried 'sudo service networking start' and 'sudo service NetworkManager start'
[21:51] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: enlightenment, alternative window manager
[21:51] <adalal> velo__: and do you see any wireless networks?
[21:51] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, think you might be able to help me with some issues i am having with it?
[21:51] <jhattara> i have a new computer with jaunty installed and now i want to get the hard drive from my old hardy computer set up in it, as i suspect there are some errors on the hardy's hard drive how should i proceed adding it to the new computer ?
[21:52] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: just ask, if I don't know maybe someone else does
[21:52] <velo__> ikonia: broadcom
[21:52] <ikonia> velo__: that should work fine
[21:52] <Moc> is intel still the best video card for ubuntu (for 3d and video) ?
[21:52] <ikonia> Moc: it has mostly very good support in linux
[21:52] <TheCheeze> well, the only one in the respository is .69. i cannot seem to make an install for the newer ones, and the .69 is not docking to tray on close. am using jaunty
[21:52] <velo__> adalal: yes. the autentications starts, but is not succesful
[21:53] <bastid_raZor> Moc: i would say nVidia is a close 2nd if not 1st over intel.
[21:53] <Moc> I have a choice between intel 4500MHD or Nvidia Quadro NVS 160M
[21:53] <jiohdi> there are items in my trash that are refusing to leave... help
[21:53] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: I think there is a versioning problem there, because .69 is an older version but they call the newer ones .7.1etc
[21:54] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: just uninstall the .69 version and compile the .7 yourself or find a .deb
[21:54] <jiohdi> how can I have permission denied to empty my trash?
[21:54] <adalal> velo__: seems like something's wrong with your router, it's not accepting connections from your computer, does it have access to certain MAC addresses only?
[21:54] <TheCheeze> when i try to make an install, i get errors that i am missing some things that the software manager says i have
[21:54] <TheCheeze> jiohdi, is one of the files root-only?
[21:54] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: if you're compiling make sure you have the -dev variants of those packages
[21:55] <TheCheeze> jiohdi, pop open a terminal, navigate to the trash, and rm -rf it
[21:55] <lowlycoder>  /quit
[21:55] <jiohdi> TheCheeze: I cant find trash in terminal, what is its path
[21:55] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, the -dev's are the only ones available
[21:55] <prince_jammys> !trash | jiohdi
[21:55] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: what package is the problem?
[21:56] <Vinceman> trism, where's your sense of 'not giving up'?
[21:56] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, i have tried with both .7.4 and .7.0
[21:56] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: no, I mean the dependency that causes trouble
[21:56] <velo> ikonia: have you written something? i was disconnected
[21:56] <trism> Vinceman: well the thing is, in general, if mplayer won't play something, nothing on linux will, so I usually either don't bother or switch to windows to play the file
[21:56] <ikonia> velo: nope
[21:56] <TheCheeze> ah, lemme pop it open again so i can read it to ya
[21:57] <kferdous> Hi everyone
[21:57] <kferdous> Needed some help installing ubuntu server via VirtulBox
[21:57] <zaccour> anyone here use gyachi?
[21:58] <zaccour> can't get voice chat working, i get an error
[21:58] <trism> Vinceman: you could always try vlc, but I think it is pretty unlikely it'll play there
[21:59] <Charles1> anyone know why synaptic wants to remove gourmet when installing exaile?
[21:59] <TheCheeze> checking for X11... no
[21:59] <TheCheeze> configure: error: X11 is required
[21:59] <kferdous> Anyone please? :)
[22:00] <Sp0tter> kferdous, did you ask a question?
[22:00] <Sp0tter> :)
[22:00] <kferdous> :)
[22:00] <Sp0tter> ask a question and I will answer it if i can
[22:00] <kferdous> Sp0tter I want to install ubuntu server x64 version
[22:00] <jiohdi> TheCheeze: I am in Trash, but none of the offending files are visible
[22:00] <Husaini> hi
[22:00] <kferdous> on win 7 via VN
[22:00] <kferdous> VB*
[22:00] <trism> Vinceman: or I suppose you could try installing quicktime in wine
[22:00] <TheCheeze> they may be hidden
[22:01] <Sp0tter> What's your question ?
[22:01] <Husaini> I booted to Ubuntu live cd and opened terminal then root terminal then grub, then did "find /boot/grub/stage1" which gives Error 15: File not found
[22:01] <homerhomer1> hey, if anyone is bored can you try out my ezQuake install script?  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237775   It's ugly but it should work fine.
[22:01] <jiohdi> TheCheeze: how do I unhide them, I am signed in as root via sudo -s
[22:01] <Husaini> how to fix ?
[22:01] <guntbert> !ot | homerhomer1
[22:01] <kferdous> Sp0tter I dled ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64
[22:01] <TheCheeze> you should be able to just sudo rm -rf
[22:02] <kferdous> After I mount the iso
[22:02] <kferdous> in VB
[22:02] <homerhomer1> ubottu: Sorry
[22:02] <guntbert> !danger | TheCheeze
[22:02] <Vinceman> trism it is moments like this that I regret ever switching to linux
[22:02] <homerhomer1> Will do in the future
[22:02] <Dantonic> ny
[22:02] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, any clue on that one?
[22:02] <TheCheeze> yay bots
[22:02] <kferdous> Sp0tter can I PM?
[22:02] <velo___> ikonia: any idea?
[22:02] <Sp0tter> no
[22:02] <Sp0tter> just ask your question dude
[22:03] <jiohdi> TheCheeze: no good, they are still there
[22:03] <trism> Vinceman: well, 99% of the time I have no issues, and I have a windows partition for the other 1%
[22:03] <guntbert> !pm  | kferdous
[22:03] <zaccour> gyachi is such a great program, do only i use it? lol
[22:03] <kferdous> ok
[22:03] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: I just noticed your entries, sorry, but no, what the h. No X11? Don't understand that one
[22:03] <Husaini> hey ?
[22:03] <zaccour> but with voice chat i get this error Cannot run gyvoice due to the following missing files:
[22:03] <zaccour>       tsd32.dll
[22:03] <zaccour>       tssoft.acm
[22:03] <zaccour> Not in the following directories:
[22:03] <zaccour>       /
[22:03] <FloodBot2> zaccour: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <zaccour>       /usr/lib/win32/
[22:03] <pitput> are there linux distros that use ubuntu .debs but have more up-to-date packages by default?
[22:03] <bastid_raZor> kferdous: you should tell vbox to mount the iso as the cd and then boot the vm.. but #vbox may have the best help available.
[22:03] <Sp0tter> kferdous ... its been like 7 minutes and you haven't asked your question, i'm sitting here staring at the screen waiting :)
[22:03] <TheCheeze> VCoolio, yeah, that's what has me confused too. i thought it was just because this is my first try at compiling and am missing something obscure... but X11?
[22:04] <iceroot> pitput: ubuntu unstable
[22:04] <kferdous> It says This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[22:04] <VCoolio> TheCheeze: Try to contact the developer M Trausch (check on launchpad), he's very helpful and fast via mail
[22:04] <TheCheeze> kk, thank you
[22:04] <pitput> iceroot, what distro do you use?
[22:04] <iceroot> kferdous: then use a x86_64 cpu, also use #vbox
[22:04] <iceroot> pitput: ubuntu
[22:04] <Sp0tter> kferdous, are you running Win7 x64 and did you choose Ubuntu 64bit as your vbox type
[22:05] <pitput> iceroot, why did say ubuntu unstable?
[22:05] <erUSUL> kferdous: you dled the 64 bit version of ubuntu but you have a 32 bit cpu
[22:05] <iceroot> pitput: because its a version of ubuntu
[22:05] <thrillyb> hello #ubuntu!
[22:05] <iceroot> pitput: like debian sid
[22:05] <kferdous> Sp0tter yes
[22:05] <Sp0tter> kferdous, unless you have a specific need to use over 4 gig of ram in the vbox,  I recommend using a 32 bit guest os
[22:05] <pitput> oh! sorry for being newb iceroot
[22:05] <kferdous> eraggo hmm i'm running win 7 64bit
[22:06] <kferdous> I have 2 gb
[22:06] <iceroot> pitput: but i dont think you will find a stable-release using *.deb newer then ubuntu stable
[22:06] <kferdous> And running this on a laptop
[22:06] <iceroot> !enter | kferdous
[22:06] <h00k> If I have a program that is segfaulting on a fresh install, what is the best way to capture that necessary info? (Pidgin)
[22:06] <Sp0tter> higher numbers don't always mean better, download the 32 bit version of ubuntu server
[22:06] <thrillyb> anyone have any experience / preferences to directory services on Ubuntu server?
[22:06] <kferdous> So get the x86 ver?
[22:06] <Sp0tter> yep
[22:06] <erUSUL> !debug | h00k
[22:06] <pitput> iceroot, people have been saying that sabayon has up to date software
[22:06] <pitput> do you know
[22:07] <iceroot> pitput: never heard from, sorry
[22:07] <h00k> erUSUL: er, yes, thanks :)
[22:07] <Trijntje> conky problem here: When I run conky (on root window) all my desktop icons disapear. When I move my mouse over them they become visible untill the next conky-redraw. Any suggestions?
[22:08] <jiohdi> where does one add or remove items from the standard menu?
[22:08] <MarkG> hi, got a silly newbie problem.  I added a user from the commandline with useradd -d /home/user -m user   when I log on, I get no bash prompt.  How can I get it back?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:08] <kferdous> Sp0tter ok thanks I'll do that right now
[22:08] <jrib> jiohdi: right click on the ubuntu icon -> edit menu
[22:08] <Sp0tter> np, it will work fine
[22:08] <sebsebseb> MarkG: sudo adduser
[22:08] <jrib> MarkG: use adduser, not useradd.  Delete your user and recreate it
[22:08] <gartral> alright, i've sen it asked 100 times and stil cnt remember.. how do i check the status of my fans?
[22:09] <Flannel> MarkG: -d would be /home/ not /home/user, but yes, use adduser not useradd
[22:09] <MarkG> Can Linux people make things any more complex?
[22:09] <sebsebseb> MarkG: put in the password and  fill in the account details
[22:09] <trism> Trijntje: sounds like you're using gnome, you really don't want to use conky in the root window in that case
[22:09] <sebsebseb> MarkG: well you only need to set up a password for them
[22:09] <MarkG> sometimes it's a facepalm moment, that surely is one of them.
[22:09] <iceroot> gartral: sensors    sudo apt-get install sensors
[22:09] <gartral> Thank You iceroot
[22:09] <jiohdi> jrib, I am running xfce no ubuntu icon to click on
[22:09] <trism> Trijntje: you should give it it's own window
[22:09] <erUSUL> MarkG: ? the man page of useradd says in its first line  «  useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead. »
[22:10] <erUSUL> MarkG: do not find it complex.
[22:10] <kferdous> Sp0tter how much do I put for the RAM?
[22:10] <jrib> jiohdi: try #xubuntu, or try running alacarte or gnome-menu-editor from the terminal I guess
[22:10] <iceroot> kferdous: depending on what you want to do with the server
[22:10] <MarkG> hardly intuitive two similar utilities thou is it...
[22:10] <jiohdi> jrib, thanks :)
[22:10] <iceroot> kferdous: normaly 512mb is enough
[22:10] <trism> Trijntje: see question 3 of the faq http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html
[22:11] <trp> i am sending one email using my pc, i have installed and configure postfix, but it is sending local ip not public ip could someone help me , i will appreciate any help
[22:11] <kferdous> iceroot for VBox
[22:11] <kferdous> 384 is default on it.
[22:11] <erUSUL> MarkG: on is meant to be usaed from scripts (useradd ) the other is the one meant to be used by humans
[22:11] <iceroot> kferdous: as i said, 512mb is enough for ubuntu-server
[22:11] <kferdous> ok
[22:11] <MarkG> and that affects me how?
[22:12] <erUSUL> MarkG: just FYI.
[22:12] <kferdous> Is 8GB enough? Or do I need more?
[22:12] <jhattara> should i boot in single user mode to check secondary hard drive or can i run the check without logging out ?
[22:12] <erUSUL> !who | MarkG
[22:12] <iceroot> kferdous: but of course depennding on what you want do. and remeber. ubuntu-server = ubuntu without a gui (and special kernel) so if you are a linux-beginner, use a real ubuntu instead of the server-edition
[22:12] <jrib> jhattara: it should just be unmounted
[22:12] <zaccour> how do i get voice chat in gyachi? i get an error
[22:12] <sebsebseb> MarkG: some other account  details  can be changed graphically  as well once you added the user properly
[22:12] <erUSUL> jhattara: if you can umount it. you can do it without going into recovery mode
[22:12] <MarkG> iceroot  can I fun full Ubuntu on a Sheevaplug?
[22:12] <kferdous> ohh
[22:13] <Sp0tter> kferdous, all the defaults are fine for ubuntu server
[22:13] <sebsebseb> MarkG: for example if you want the account to be able to do sudo
[22:13] <iceroot> MarkG: what?
[22:13] <Trijntje> trism: hmm, it seems I have to choose between flicker and no icons :(. With double_buffer yes icons get lost, without it conky flickers
[22:13] <jhattara> jrib, erUSUL, thanks, just as i thought, should i use command line tools or can i do it with gparted ? does gparted give verbose data of the check ?
[22:13] <charnel> how can I format a device. I have an external hd of 320 gb and no partitions in it
[22:13] <erUSUL> MarkG: btw. may i ask why you did not used the System>Administation>Users and groups GUI ?
[22:13] <thrillyb> reasking question - anyone have any experience / preferences to directory services on Ubuntu server?
[22:13] <iceroot> !gparted | charnel
[22:13] <Trijntje> trism: is this specific to gnome?
[22:13] <pitput> anyone know the linux-mint channel?
[22:13] <MarkG> Is there a channel where everyone does not assume I run X and Ubuntu desktop?
[22:13] <trism> Trijntje: no, you want the own_window option, then you can have both, assuming you have a spot on your desktop without icons
[22:13] <sebsebseb> MarkG: when I said graphically I meant what erUSUL mentioned
[22:13] <jrib> jhattara: no idea about gparted, I've always just run fsck
[22:13] <genii> !mint | pitput
[22:13] <charnel> I installed the gparted
[22:14] <MarkG> or even capable of running desktop
[22:14] <erUSUL> jhattara: do not remember exactly how gparted deos fsck. i allways use cli it gives more control (i can choose the options i pass to fsck)
[22:14] <jrib> MarkG: this one when you prefix your question with "I am not running X"
[22:14] <pitput> !mintsupport
[22:14] <Trijntje> trism: true, but it looks less nice with a border around it. Well, too bad I guess, thanks for your help
[22:15] <trism> Trijntje: there shouldn't be a border (or at least there is an option to configure no border)
[22:15] <genii> pitput: I knew the channel was in nthere somewheres :)
[22:15] <pitput> anyone know how I can get on irc.spotchat.org?
[22:15] <charnel> The drive is not visible in gparted
[22:15] <jrib> pitput: depends on your irc client...
[22:15] <charnel> but I can see it in devices list in lsusb
[22:15] <genii> pitput: /server irc.spotchat.org
[22:15] <pitput> jrib, I have xchat.
[22:15] <VCoolio> Trijntje: you can remove the border with own_window_hints undecorated
[22:16] <Trijntje> trism: thanks again, ill try that
[22:16] <jrib> pitput: genii's suggestion should work then
[22:16] <pitput> genii, where do I input that under?
[22:16] <jrib> pitput: same place you puh "jrib, I have xchat."
[22:16] <jhattara> jrib, erUSUL, fsck.ext3 -v DEV ? any other options i should use ?
[22:16] <genii> pitput: On your IRC client's text input line
[22:16] <epaphus> Hello, is it possible to do a ubuntu minimal install with only the needed applications and functions a user needs? (firefox, office, pidgin)..  not even let the user change his background
[22:17] <pitput> jrib, oh I see. thanks jrib and genii
[22:17] <jrib> epaphus: read library.gnome.org admin guides
[22:17] <bcj> Do any of the Linux media players include spatializers for headphones?
[22:17] <erUSUL> jhattara: depends on the situation. do you spect the fs to be very damaged ? or just is a routine check ?
[22:17] <jrib> !minimal > epaphus
[22:17] <jhattara> erUSUL, i suspect it has at least some damage, it's an old drive from my last computer that in the end didn't boot properly
[22:18] <epaphus> jrib, thanks.. but that would include access to changing the deskptop theme, right?
[22:18] <jrib> epaphus: not if you read the admin guides at library.gnome.org
[22:18] <epaphus> jrib, thanks
[22:18] <erUSUL> jhattara: i sometimes pass -n on the first pass to see the damage but not make any changes to the fs
[22:19] <jrib> epaphus: the section is something like "locking down gnome" or similar and there are two documents
[22:19] <epaphus> cool
[22:19] <stevieman> I just used synaptic to install uudeview and I don't know where it got put, doing a locate uudeview returned no results, would find work to find this program?
[22:19] <jhattara> erUSUL, so -vn first and then what ? just plain -v ? depending on the report ?
[22:19] <yourfinancialguy> Which is a powerful program for recording and mixing audio?
[22:19] <erUSUL> jhattara: then i can use -pcky with more confidence
[22:20] <jrib> epaphus: in the first document, make sure you read about locking down gconf values
[22:20] <Slimu_> yourfinancialguy: audacity
[22:20] <epaphus> jrib, cool. thanks.. have you done this yourself?
[22:20] <erUSUL> jhattara: -p is for repair c and k search and mark badblocks (can take a long time) -y is to answer y to all questions by default
[22:20] <jrib> epaphus: no, only here and there to play around
[22:20] <erUSUL> jhattara: man e2fsck
[22:21] <erUSUL> stevieman: is a command line program or gui ?
[22:21] <adalal> oh yes
[22:21] <yourfinancialguy> very nice - thank you Slimu:-[
[22:22] <pasword001> #ubuntu--hu
[22:22] <jhattara> erUSUL, how much information does it give by default ? is the verbose option necessary ? does fsck log what it's done automatically somewhere ?
[22:22] <genii> pasword001: /join #ubuntu-hu
[22:22] <stevieman> erUSUL: command line
[22:23] <erUSUL> jhattara: never used it myself. afaik it does not log it
[22:23] <linuxguy2009> Is it possible to use these GIF animated wallpapers that I found online and actually have them move? By default they just sit there.
[22:23] <erUSUL> stevieman: and does not work if you just call it from terminal ?
[22:23] <stevieman> erUSUL: nope
[22:23] <pasword001> szasztok valaki magyar nincs fenn beszélgetnék vele
[22:23] <jrib> linuxguy2009: you can have mplayer play something where your wallpaper is :)
[22:24] <linuxguy2009> jrib: That xwinwrap thing I read about you mean?
[22:24] <zaccour> how do i get voice chat working in gyachi?
[22:24] <jrib> linuxguy2009: no, mplayer -rootwin ...
[22:24] <erUSUL> stevieman: what does « dpkg -L uudeview | grep bin » return ? use pastebin
[22:24] <Guest41537> has anyone used sane and xsane?  I'm struggling with an HP scanner.
[22:25] <jrib> linuxguy2009: I don't think I tried with compiz, you probably do need to use xwinwrap in that case
[22:25] <pasword001> valaki segitsen
[22:25] <linuxguy2009> jrib: Ill have to install mplayer and try it thanks.
[22:25] <chase1> hello, i'm having a problem. i would like to remove xubuntu from my computer. there is no separate partition for it or anything, as I tried that method. however, it still shows up on my dual boot screen when i turn on the computer. does anyone know what i should do?
[22:25] <pasword001> de csak hatud
[22:25] <jrib> linuxguy2009: you also have to make sure nothing else draws over it (like nautilus)
[22:25] <pasword001> help hungary
[22:25] <erUSUL> !hu
[22:26] <erUSUL> pasword001: type « /join #ubuntu-hu »  hit enter
[22:26] <pasword001> de ott most senki sincs ubottu
[22:26] <Guest41537> how do I get a name in this irc, instead of "Guest41537"
[22:26] <sebsebseb> Guest41537: use a name that  isn't registered
[22:26] <scunizi> Guest41537: I have and struggle is the right word for me.. I tried with a brother MFC unit and could only get xsane/sane to work when I loaded it as root (not recommended.. but)
[22:27] <erUSUL> Guest41537: /nick yournick should work
[22:27] <pasword001> más magyar oldal nics?
[22:27] <Guest41537> OK.  Where do I register the name?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !register | Guest41537
[22:27] <erUSUL> !register | Guest41537
[22:27]  * erUSUL slow fingers
[22:27] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: I win then :D
[22:28] <erUSUL> :D
[22:28] <sebsebseb> erUSUL: Fastest finger first
[22:28] <trism> Guest11443: you can get the info while you're still in irc by doing a /msg nickserv help register
[22:28] <zaccour> how do i get voice chat working in gyachi?
[22:28] <pierlux> I know Karmic is alpha, but today installing from netboot or dist-upgrading from jaunty fails for me, has this been reported?
[22:29] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  pierlux
[22:29] <trism> pierlux: people have been coming in here all day talking about it, so I'm sure someone has
[22:29] <pierlux> trism, ok thanks :)
[22:30] <TrentonAdams> Hey guys, how do I debug a VPN connection on ubuntu?  I'm not seeing the connection info going to any of the lgos.
[22:30] <TrentonAdams> logs
[22:30] <_MrsApple_> I need help with gimp, i was wondering how you use it to pull out color from a picture once youve made the picture black and white?
[22:31] <pasword001> ubottu: csak it tuc segiteni mert nagyon kéne ha tuc ird meg nagyon mekőszőnném
[22:31] <jrib> _MrsApple_: you may want to try #gimp
[22:31] <trism> _MrsApple_: you mean you're trying to add color to a black and white image?
[22:31] <jrib> !hu | pasword001
[22:31] <_MrsApple_> no
[22:32] <_MrsApple_> ive made the picture black and white and i want to show the color of only like.. one thing on the picture.
[22:32] <pasword001> jrib:ok hu
[22:32] <jrib> _MrsApple_: You want to apply some sort of mask that makes the picture black and white
[22:33] <pasword001> na senki
[22:33] <_MrsApple_> jrib, erm... its already black and white.
[22:33] <trism> _MrsApple_: not exactly sure the standard way to do this in the gimp but you could make two layers, one with the black and white image and the other with the color image and then edit the mask on one of the layers so you can see the layer below
[22:33] <_MrsApple_> ah.
[22:34] <jrib> _MrsApple_: yeah so undo what you did and use my suggestion :)
[22:34] <_MrsApple_> hmm. ok.... ok. thx!!
[22:34] <RFerreira> Hi
[22:34] <_MrsApple_> and what is #gimp? another channel geared towards that?
[22:34] <yassine_> how do i do searching about file or folder?
[22:34] <RFerreira> how can i use framebuffer?
[22:35] <jrib> _MrsApple_: Here is what I would do: copy the layer, make the top layer black and white.  Then mask out the tops of the part layer you want to be color so the bottom (colored) layer shows through: http://docs.gimp.org/2.4/en/gimp-layer-mask-add.html
[22:35] <yassine_> any help?
[22:35] <jrib> _MrsApple_: #gimp is dedicated to gimp support
[22:35] <jrib> yassine_: what exactly do you want to do?
[22:35] <trism> yassine_: find / -name your_file_name_here -print
[22:35] <mimiloon> hi everybody, is there a way to get "activeX" working with firefox under linux?
[22:35] <jrib> mimiloon: no
[22:35] <_MrsApple_> thanks jrib and trism
[22:35] <Glaxyyxy> hey guys, how can I insert into multiple files starting on the same line, guessing I would have to use sed for this , sed -i '3s/string' maybe ?
[22:36] <trism> _MrsApple_: yw, good luck editing your image
[22:36] <jrib> trism: ha didn't see you just made the same suggestion, would have saved me some typing :)
[22:37] <trism> jrib: yours was more clear I kind of rambled in there
[22:37] <mimiloon> jrib: damn, is there an alternative to active x?
[22:37] <yassine_> trism ,find: invalid predicate `-libqt4-dbus'
[22:37] <jrib> mimiloon: not using activex.... what is it you need it for?
[22:38] <yassine_> trism , how can i solve that?
[22:38] <jrib> yassine_: tell us what you are trying to do so we can help you :)
[22:38] <trism> yassine_: you'll need to quote the string if you want the dash at the beginning
[22:38] <trism> yassine_: find / -name "-libqt4-dbus" -print
[22:39] <mimiloon> jrib: i got a school assignment for me to use a website and it requires me to have active x installed; i don't have windows installed
[22:40] <TheCheeze> how do i make jaunty stop overheating and shutting down my latop? this is very annoying
[22:40] <jrib> mimiloon: your best bet is probably to try installing internet explorer in wine, #winehq can help you with that.  Alternatively, use a virtualizer (like virtualbox for example) to install windows inside your ubuntu
[22:40] <trism> Glaxyyxy: you can do a for FILE in *.something; do sed -e "s/your_expression/new_expression/g" $FILE > $FILE.edited; done
[22:40] <trism> Glaxyyxy: you'll need to mv them back to the correct files if you want to overwrite them, I usually like to check that I did it right first though
[22:40] <aethelrick> mimiloon: what's the web site?
[22:40] <Glaxyyxy> huh?
[22:41] <Glaxyyxy> dude, all I need is to make line 3 = 'something'
[22:41] <Glaxyyxy> how do I do that :P
[22:41] <mimiloon> aethelrick: myitlab.com
[22:41] <jrib> Glaxyyxy: what's wrong with what you said?
[22:41] <eltume> i guys
[22:41] <eltume> how do I check my computer hardware info
[22:41] <jrib> trism: -i will edit the file in place if you don't give it a parameter
[22:41] <mimiloon> jrib: damn, i'll give it a shot
[22:42] <hahahan> TheCheeze: Does other Linux tastes olso overhead your laptop?
[22:42] <trism> jrib: yeah I'm always wary of doing that though, like to check that the files look ok first
[22:42] <mimiloon> jrib: thanks for your suggestion
[22:42] <jrib> trism: very true
[22:42] <TheCheeze> never tried hahahan
[22:42] <TeLeFrancisco> hello
[22:42] <trism> Glaxyyxy: sorry I misunderstood, I thought you already had the sed expression, you just wanted to run it on multiple files
[22:42] <yassine_> trism,find: /home/yassine/.gvfs: Permission denied
[22:42] <TheCheeze> it seems to happen under load, example while i was just compiling something
[22:42] <yassine_> trism, why?
[22:42] <hahahan> TheCheeze: Then do it.
[22:42] <aethelrick> mimiloon: damn... I just read the requirements on the site... your going to need to go the VM route for this puppy
[22:42] <jrib> trism: -ifoo makes backups though :)
[22:43] <trism> yassine_: don't mind the permission denied stuff, it just means you're searching in places you don't have permission to access
[22:43] <DasEi> eltume: hwinfo, lspci, lshw...
[22:43] <aleron6> does anybody here have the same problem i got with movie player being muted
[22:43] <trism> jrib: nice, I'll have to try that next time
[22:43] <aleron6> i cant hear the movies i wanna watch
[22:43] <aethelrick> mimiloon: they recommend IE8 :S
[22:43] <yassine_> trism, i use the root privilage
[22:43] <trism> yassine_: you still may get a few even as root
[22:43] <TheCheeze> would it help to upgrade to the ubuntu 10?
[22:44] <DasEi> TheCheeze: depending on cpu, there are ways to downclock it, though less perfomance then
[22:44] <TheCheeze> err... 9.10
[22:44] <yassine_> trism, how can i slove that pls?
[22:44] <Glaxyyxy> god
[22:44] <Glaxyyxy> you guys are like, insane
[22:44] <frewsxcv> is there any advantage between using an ssh tunnel for http rather than just using vpn?
[22:44] <jrib> !karmic | TheCheeze
[22:44] <Glaxyyxy> I figured it out for myself
[22:44] <jrib> Glaxyyxy: I told you what you said first would work...
[22:44] <DasEi> TheCheeze: Intel ? amd ?
[22:44] <TheCheeze> amd x64
[22:45] <kudi1> how do i make a program executable
[22:45] <jrib> !permissions > kudi1
[22:45] <frewsxcv> kudi1, chmod +x programnameere
[22:45] <Glaxyyxy> that's not valid dude
[22:45] <TheCheeze> kudi1, you can right-click, properties, permissions, allow to run as an application
[22:45] <DasEi> !info powernowd | TheCheeze
[22:45] <valley> kudi1: chmod a+x filename
[22:45] <TheCheeze> or you can chmod it
[22:45] <Glaxyyxy> you need to do `sed -i '3,3s/^/something/g' file`
[22:46] <jrib> Glaxyyxy: k
[22:47] <jrib> Glaxyyxy: 3,3 can just be 3
[22:47] <komputes> How can I convert 1GB into blocks?
[22:47] <trism> yassine_: if you don't want those messages you could redirect stderr to /dev/null (find / -name filename -print 2> /dev/null)
[22:47] <mimiloon> aethelrick: thanks for the heads up
[22:47] <twisted`> could someone help me figure out why Ubuntu doesn't resolve dns?
[22:47] <jrib> Glaxyyxy: and the /g isn't really needed since ^ will only match once
[22:47] <muscardinus> a
[22:47] <twisted`> I've added a dns to the interfaces file
[22:47] <DasEi> komputes: a file ?
[22:47] <twisted`> but for some reason it doesn't work >_>
[22:48] <ionut_> Hello! I'm having a problem with smplayer and nvidia. I have nvidia 185.18.36 and mplayer with vdpau. If I play a video in fullscreen whenever I go to the bottom to show the smplayer toolbar the screen flickers. Also when the toolbar disappears the screen flickers. Even when I turn the volume down with the multimedia keys. Does anyone else experience this?
[22:48] <aethelrick> mimiloon: you're welcome... for a happy and easy VM experience give virtual box a go :)
[22:48] <mimiloon> aethelrick: i'll do that
[22:48] <komputes> DasEi: I need to know how many blocks 1GB takes, this is because user quotas takes blocks and not MB/GB. I do not need to convert a file, i need to conver a number. GB -> Blocks
[22:49] <ionut_> note: (flicker = desktop background appears intermittently with the video)
[22:49] <scott_ino2> does anyone know an easy way to see whether im using radeon or radeonhd?
[22:49] <scott_ino2> if i have both installed
[22:49] <post_> i installed 9.04 on my Amd with Nvdia G70 graphic card, the screen sometimes freezes while trying to start the graphical mode, it was working fine in 8.04, any suggestions?
[22:49] <DasEi> komputes: see, then use fdisk -l to get the info, use calculator
[22:50] <komputes> DasEi:  fdisk -l does not show any output.
[22:50] <ionut_> post_ when I had problems with nvidia and freezing I installed the latest kernel and nvidia driver and no freezing for about a month
[22:50] <ionut_> komputes try sudo fdisk l
[22:50] <ionut_> sudo fdisk -l
[22:50] <DasEi> komputes: see, then use *sudo* fdisk -l to get the info, use calculator (no*)
[22:51] <Mike_lifeguard> where would apache put php errors?
[22:51] <DasEi> komputes : speedcrunch, if no calc handy
[22:51] <komputes> DasEi: calc open
[22:51] <ionut_> scott_ino2 try lspci
[22:51] <komputes> DasEi: what now
[22:51] <scott_ino2> ionut_, what? that would give me a list of hardware, im talking about which driver
[22:51] <Trijntje> trism: After some googling i found a way to have conky look like its on the root window with these options (if your interested) own_window yes own_window_type override own_window_transparent yes
[22:51] <aethelrick> Mike_lifeguard: in /var/log/apache/
[22:52] <Mike_lifeguard> aethelrick: thx
[22:52] <DasEi> komputes : Gigabytes to blocks ?
[22:52] <aethelrick> Mike_lifeguard: you'll see logs in there for access and errors
[22:52] <Ziber> WHy do I get connection refused when I try "rndc reload"?
[22:52] <trism> Trijntje: gotcha, I'll try that
[22:52] <komputes> DasEi: how?
[22:52] <scott_ino2> ionut_, i have both radeon,radeonhd drivers installed, want to know which one im actually using
[22:52] <szeck> hey guys how to install my usb tv tuner on ubuntu any idea? I can see it on lsusb but how to get it work
[22:53] <DasEi> komputes :you can see size and how many blocks at all, so devide your gigab by the blocks,  get the size of one block, nor ?
[22:53] <aethelrick> szeck: maybe try mythtv?
[22:53] <ionut_> scott_ino2 lsmod | grep radeon
[22:53] <komputes> DasEi: there has got to be a better, more effective and specific way
[22:53] <Ziber> WHy do I get connection refused when I try "rndc reload"?
[22:54] <komputes> DasEi: I followed what you said, how can I verify that 1048233 blocks is 1GB?
[22:54] <Mike_lifeguard> aethelrick: do you know what the adm group is?
[22:55] <trism> komputes: you could use parted -l, it lists the sizes in GB
[22:55] <DasEi> komputes : for which circumstance you need these input ?
[22:55] <komputes> trism: I need a block -> GB and GB -> block converter
[22:55] <komputes> DasEi: user quotas
[22:56] <DasEi> komputes: so a config, that won't show graphically, to verify you can again test on fdisk -l,  though you then only verify the validation of your found factor
[22:57] <boscop> atm opera doesn't display any pdf files. can I tell it to use evince?
[22:57] <komputes> DasEi: I do not understand, in plainer english please :)
[22:57] <aethelrick> Mike_lifeguard: where you seeing that?
[22:58] <Ziber> How can the connection be refused on a local connection?
[22:58] <DasEi> komputes : you now the size of a partiton,  you found 1Block represents x GB, your factor, so you can check it aaginst
[22:59] <q0_0p> anyone know how to backup a windows box
[22:59] <thiebaude> q0_0p, maybe #windows
[22:59] <scott_ino2> ionut_, for what it's worth i figured it out
[22:59] <q0_0p> is it possible to tar the whole windows drive and get it to work?
[23:00] <komputes> DasEi: still simply an estimation, I may be wrong. I will find a better way to do this conversion.
[23:00] <scott_ino2> can't just do grep have to check the xorg.log
[23:00] <Vinceman> how can you delete dirs with dirs in them etc. in sudo accessible areas?
[23:00] <luigi> ciao
[23:00] <Mike_lifeguard> aethelrick: the error logs are owned by root, but have group adm
[23:01] <DasEi> komputes: why not, haven't used quotas on ubu yet, please tell me if I'm still around
[23:01] <DasEi>  Vinceman:rm -r
[23:01] <komputes> DasEi: will let you know if i find something that converts to blocks
[23:01] <thiebaude> anyone interested in an Ubuntu show , it will start at midnite, london time, category5.tv
[23:02] <DasEi> komputes: as every disk is different, it's gonna be something around hdparm I guess
[23:03] <Guest55052> Ah, fantastic! After finding a helpful thread on the forums, I was able to make my SMB share play nicely with my XBMC Xbox. :)
[23:03] <jhattara> erUSUL, you still here ?
[23:04] <ebcl> Putting a machine into kiosk mode, running browser only: Question - how do I disable [or re-map] the ALT+F4 / CTL+w combo?
[23:04] <ebcl> ... .erm, that would be running gnome.
[23:05] <genobreaker> hey guys i have a question
[23:05] <cF`Zuz|Work> There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don't
[23:05] <TheCheeze> genobreaker... i know that name...
[23:05] <genobreaker> i understand binary
[23:06] <genobreaker> i made a binary to decimal converter in programming today
[23:06] <TheCheeze> why do i know that name?
[23:06] <cF`Zuz|Work> i see, you just dont get jokes  ;)
[23:06] <kappa> hi how come mdb viewer doesnt work in 9.04 anymore?
[23:07] <genobreaker> do you guys know a program that can burn iso's to usb for ubuntu
[23:07] <sebsebseb> !usb |  genobreaker
[23:07] <nexes> i just installed ubuntu (love it so far) but noticed that its running the 2.6.28 kernel and not the new 2.6.30, when will this be updated?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> nexes: the next one gets a later kernel by default
[23:07] <genobreaker> no i need a program that works fro ubuntu that can burn an iso to usb
[23:07] <kappa> nexes, new != better
[23:08] <sebsebseb> nexes: you can have a later kernel now, but  not much point, unless you have some valid reason to do that
[23:08] <sebsebseb> nexes:  kappa   Newer is not always better!
[23:08] <cF`Zuz|Work> I bought this program and in the box it said Requirements: Windows 2000 or better, so i installed linux, but its not working....
[23:08] <nexes> kappa: true, true, just curious i guess, i came from using fedora 11 with 2.6.31
[23:08] <garv> My network card will not auto assign a ip and I cannot ping my router after staticly assigning one
[23:08] <sebsebseb> nexes: ah ha I see
[23:08] <laura_> Hey there! I'm trying to get lircd to listen on udp port 5000. The command "lircd -H udp -d 5000" runs with no errors, but I'm not showing port 5000 listening in netstat:
[23:08] <garv> Fresh install btw
[23:08] <laura_> root@jaunty:~# ps aux | grep lircd
[23:08] <laura_> root     22820  0.0  0.0   3116   568 ?        Ss   17:00   0:00 lircd -H udp -d 5000
[23:08] <laura_> root     22822  0.0  0.0   3336   800 pts/1    S+   17:00   0:00 grep lircd
[23:08] <laura_> root@jaunty:~# netstat -na | grep 5000
[23:08] <FloodBot2> laura_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <laura_> root@jaunty:~#
[23:08] <ebcl> !ignore cF`Zuz|Work
[23:09] <sebsebseb> nexes: yes Fedora is more cutting edge than Ubuntu,  later packages first etc
[23:09] <kappa> mdb viewer is broken in 9.04, it works fine in previous version of ubuntu
[23:09] <sebsebseb> nexes: The Ubuntu repos only do  security updates, then people can  install  some later stuff from a PPA,  or in another way, or just wait untill the next Ubuntu release
[23:09] <nexes> its seems to me that my ubuntu distro is quite a bit faster than fedora though, so a good trade off in my book!
[23:09] <sebsebseb> nexes: Did you do Ext4?
[23:09] <ubuntistas> how can i set a new profile to mozilla 3.5.3?
[23:09] <nexes> yeah i have ext4
[23:10] <nexes> for /
[23:10] <nexes> ext3 for boot
[23:10] <genobreaker> so far  all the iso burners ihave tryed have failed me
[23:10] <sebsebseb> nexes: hmm
[23:10] <frewsxcv> ubuntistas, firefox --profile-manager i thin
[23:10] <Crazycheese> Guys, Im working on fixing weird lang autodetection in Firefox. Somehow, no matter the locale, no matter the language pack, first start of Firefox is always in en-US language, and user has to go to about:config and fix it manually. Is it the same situation in Ubuntu?
[23:10] <frewsxcv> i think
[23:10] <sebsebseb> nexes: you don't need a seperate /boot when doing Ext4 in Ubuntu
[23:10] <frewsxcv> ubuntistas, no: firefox -ProfileManager
[23:10] <stranger> ls
[23:10] <Crazycheese> guys @ irc.mozilla.org have no clue.
[23:10] <sebsebseb> nexes: by default everything goes into / in Ubuntu, and  having a seperate /home can be useful
[23:11] <nexes> i had to set it up like that when installing fedora 11, it needs one, and i just kept that partition setup when installing ubuntu
[23:11] <sebsebseb> nexes: obviously swap is seperate
[23:11] <trism> Crazycheese: that is odd, I have no problems switching between en and ja locales with firefox
[23:11] <garv> is there any known problems with dd-wrt and ubuntu?
[23:11] <ebcl> Putting a machine [standard gnome] into kiosk mode, running browser only: Question - how do I disable [or re-map] the ALT+F4 / CTL+w combo?
[23:11] <garv> are*
[23:11] <ubuntistas> how can i set a new profile to mozilla 3.5.3?
[23:11] <kikbguy> Major issue:  When I start up the ubuntu 9.04 live cd the rightmost 1/4 of my screen is blank and ubuntu is shifted to the left 3/4 of my screen making it mostly unusable.  I was told to download the video drivers, but when i go to system-> hardware updates it only has wireless driver options with no video drivers to download.  Any idea how to fix this?  (I am using a 5 year old hp desktop pc.)
[23:11] <Crazycheese> trism: how do you switch the language?
[23:11] <stranger> hey, anyone has any idea how to add or change language at ***Stardict**** ?
[23:11] <ubuntistas> frewsxcv doesn't work
[23:12] <garv> Kikbguy, are you using a crt or lcd?
[23:12] <trism> Crazycheese: a variety of ways, you could test it on the command line doing a LANG=ja_JP.utf8 firefox &
[23:12] <kikbguy> lcd
[23:12] <trism> Crazycheese: or whatever locale you need
[23:12] <sebsebseb> ubuntulog: Why?
[23:12] <garv> have you tried to adjust the screen layout via the monitor?
[23:12] <Ziber> Are there any public DNS resolves I could use?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> ubuntuistas   why?  ,but they left
[23:12] <trism> Crazycheese: if you want the whole session in another language, there is an option in gdm
[23:13] <kikbguy> I don't believe I have that option on my monitor, but I'll check right now and let you know
[23:13] <enduser000> hello, can anyone tell me where the configuration file for wallpaper tray is?
[23:13] <enduser000> wallpaper-tray
[23:13] <garv> kikbguy look for a menu button
[23:13] <Crazycheese> trism: well, I my locale is set to ru_RU.utf-8 everywhere and no matter(even forced with LC_ALL=), firefox always starts the default  first session in en-US.
[23:13] <rionline> hello
[23:13] <JustinA> Hello everyone!
[23:13] <enduser000> can't find it and sudo apt-get remove --purge doesn't remove it
[23:14] <MenZa> !hi | rionline, JustinA
[23:14] <Crazycheese> trism: gdm is set to ru_RU.UTF-8
[23:14] <kikbguy> yeah, my monitor does not have that option
[23:14] <kikbguy> I have a menu button
[23:14] <rionline> thx menza
[23:14] <genobreaker> im saving up for the ati 5870x2
[23:14] <garv> Router wont assign my nic an ip.. I only get 169 ip any idea?
[23:14] <JustinA> Need a little help; I have a Mac with the Ubuntu 9.04 ISO downloaded, and I need to stick it on a USB drive so I can install it on a optical-free computer
[23:14] <kikbguy> but I tried it and don't see any options to shift the screen
[23:14] <enduser000> hello, can anyone tell me where the configuration file for wallpaper tray is? can't find it and sudo apt-get remove --purge doesn't remove it
[23:14] <garv> kikbguy, what make and model is your monitor?
[23:15] <cowgarden> what does ./ do before a command or shellscript?
[23:15] <enduser000> cowgarden: runs it in the current directory
[23:15] <kikbguy> my monitor is an insignia 42" lcd tv
[23:15] <enduser000> can anyone tell me where the configuration file for wallpaper tray is? can't find it and sudo apt-get remove --purge doesn't remove it
[23:15] <ebcl> Ziber, opendns.org
[23:16] <rionline> @cowgarden..: means "do it here, it is here"
[23:16] <IdleOne> enduser000: you sure it is installed? apt-cache policy wallpaper-tray
[23:16] <enduser000> yes
[23:16] <enduser000> it's installed
[23:16] <Crazycheese> Guys, anyone using firefox 3.5.3 in non-US language?? Was the first start IN YOUR native language?
[23:16] <cowgarden> enduser000, ah, btw if your name represents your musicle taste I like it :)
[23:16] <enduser000> cowgarden: sorry, it's a eula thing ;D
[23:16] <komputes> DasEi: found this but I think it's wrong http://www.unitconversion.org/unit_converter/data-storage-ex.html
[23:16] <garv> kikbguy have you tired to go into monitor resolution and change the resolution?
[23:16] <JustinA> I know I could use all kind of helpful utilites to make a live-USB thing from in linux
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: hi
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Crayboff: your on 9.04?
[23:16] <AutoMatriX> hi folks, I'dlike to re-install intrepid but I don't have no harddisk, is ther a solution ?
[23:16] <JustinA> but how do i get the installation CD on a bootable flash drive?
[23:16] <enduser000> can anyone tell me where the configuration file for wallpaper tray is? can't find it and sudo apt-get remove --purge doesn't remove it
[23:17] <enduser000> AutoMatriX: you don't have a harddisk to install it on? or you don't have something to back up your files with?
[23:17] <ionut_> JustinA there is a utility called USB Startup Disk Creator in System -> Administration
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Crayboff: wrong one
[23:17] <rionline> justina: try unetbootin
[23:17] <rionline> wait, let me look
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: You got Firefox 3.5.3  on 9.04?  directly from Mozilla?
[23:17] <JustinA> unetbootin is only for linux and windows, i'm on a Mac
[23:17] <geekgerl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271739/
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: or what?
[23:17] <alsuren> cowgarden: the point of ./ is so that you don't accidentally run an executable from the current directory when you meant to use the one from your $PATH
[23:18] <AutoMatriX> enduser000, I just wxant to reinstall the master partition
[23:18] <JustinA> but Mac's terminal has the dd commmand
[23:18] <garv> kikbguy if its a lcd tv it will HAVE to run in native in order for it to scale correctly
[23:18] <JustinA> is it possible with that?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !details |  Crazycheese
[23:18] <Vinceman> if you extract stuff from a zip file do all files get the same date modified?
[23:18] <trism> Crazycheese: actually, I've only tried firefox-3.0 like that, I'll go check out firefox 3.5
[23:18] <cowgarden> alsuren, yea, just had a script that wouldn't work without it and I was currious
[23:18] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  trism
[23:18] <rionline> unetbootin is right: download most distros and put it on stick
[23:18] <ionut_> JustinA if you're on a Mac just make the bootable usb form the Ubuntu Live CD on a system with a CD-ROM drive
[23:18] <Pereirao> enduser: try using gconf-editor... look in /apps/wp_tray
[23:18] <DasEi> JustinA: no, that won't boot, you gotta find a mac user or even run a ubuntu vm in mac, usbcreator is very convienant
[23:19] <kikbguy> how do i run in native?
[23:19] <cowgarden> alsuren, (1 click wep cracking :)
[23:19] <JustinA> ok
[23:19] <alsuren> cowgarden: imagine if someone created a script called aptitude, which did rm -rf /, and you did $ sudo aptitude
[23:19] <AutoMatriX> enduser000, i talked about a CD, not a harddisk, sorry, my mistake
[23:19] <JustinA> i'll try unetbootin from a VM
[23:19] <JustinA> but is the live CD it creates the same as an installation CD?
[23:19] <trism> Crazycheese: you're right, it isn't showing the correct locale for me either
[23:19] <garv> kikbguy any luck changing resolutions?
[23:19] <enriaf> AutoMatrix: you can download it from ubuntu.com
[23:19] <kikbguy> no luck changing resolution
[23:19] <trism> Crazycheese: must be a problem with the package, probably should go report the bug
[23:19] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: hi
[23:20] <geekgerl> hello :)
[23:20] <cowgarden> alsuren, that was bad..., so ./ also limits it's powers to that folder?
[23:20] <DasEi> JustinA: or try to boot alternate installer, be CAREFULL and install to usb, carefull as not to overwrite internal disk
[23:20] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: ok  your meant to ask a question first, not  give out a pastebin link first
[23:20] <geekgerl> sorry, yeah
[23:20] <enduser000> AutoMatriX: np, you can use a flash drive if you have that
[23:20] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, I've got the ISO bu do not know hos to reinstall from that file
[23:20] <JustinA> DasEi: lol, I've made that mistake before... I'm very careful...   but what's the alternate installer?
[23:20] <enriaf> cowgarden: no it doesn't limit it power, the power is define by the permision that you hav
[23:20] <AutoMatriX> Endu
[23:20] <Crazycheese> sebsebseb: I have lastest XUL and Fx built from scratch on archlinux.   My locale is set to ru_RU.UTF-8.   I have installed language files from mozilla site on correct location.     First (and all following) start(s) Firefox launches in en-US, unless I change it manually to "ru" in about:config.     I  was wondering if Ubuntu experiences same thing.
[23:21] <alsuren> cowgarden: no. It just points bash to the script contatained in the current directory
[23:21] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: This is Ubuntu support not ArchLinux!
[23:21] <DasEi> !alternate
[23:21] <trism> Crazycheese: yeah we do I just tried it
[23:21] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: What's your issue?  I  may look at your pastebin link later
[23:21] <cowgarden> alsuren, so where was the link to the previous conversation?
[23:21] <geekgerl> Hi there. Trying to get lircd to listen on port 5000. The command "lircd -H udp -d 5000" runs fine, netstat shows nothing listening on port 5000. Full output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/271739/.
[23:21] <trism> Crazycheese: just for firefox-3.5 though not for firefox-3.0
[23:21] <enriaf> AutoMatrix you have to burn the iso file into a cd with a program like brasero
[23:21] <gcl>  hi guys, im trying to get surround sound to work. atm, it the speakers seem to be channeling sound out correctly in speaker tests. However, when running VLC when i select "5.1" from "Audio > Audio device" i get the following error: .."surround51" sis already in use
[23:21] <gcl> is*
[23:21] <DasEi> JustinA: saw !alternate above ?
[23:21] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: oh you were Laura?
[23:21] <alsuren> cowgarden: if you've got a script in somedir, you can do somedir/script.sh
[23:22] <geekgerl> i was! sorry, i'm new to chatzilla client in firefox
[23:22] <Crazycheese> sebsebseb Please dont be distrofobic! Ubuntu is my alternative distro as well! The question is not ubuntu or arch related, its pure firefox.
[23:22] <geekgerl> didn't mean to spam the group
[23:22] <gcl> does anyone know how to fix that?
[23:22] <cowgarden> alsuren, *laughing* ok
[23:22] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: you didn't spam/food :D
[23:22] <gcl> or am i asking in the wrong channel?
[23:22] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, I just said I dont have a CD, there is just a HD on board and for info : USB boot wont work, my motherboard does not allow it
[23:22] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: I am not sure you can  try  irc.mozilla.org #firefox   or  ##linux  or  #firefox on this network
[23:23] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: flood not food :D
[23:23] <kikbguy> For some reason opensuse 11.1 fits my screen (but sucks compared to ubuntu in every other respect), and fedora 11 has the same screen shifted to left issue if that helps at all
[23:23] <JustinA> DasEi: yeah, looking up the alternate
[23:23] <trism> Crazycheese: since it seems both distros are doing it you should probably go report it to the firefox guys
[23:23] <Ulises1> Hi all
[23:23] <JustinA> looks complicated
[23:23] <Crazycheese> sebsebseb: Guys @ irc.mozilla.org  have NO clue....
[23:23] <zaccour> ok i have gyachi voice chat working it seems but i have to choose a server. how do i know which one? there's lots of them
[23:23] <sebsebseb> Crazycheese: try ##linux then
[23:23] <enriaf> AutoMatrix now I understand what you mean
[23:23] <trism> Crazycheese: I mean like on the firefox bugzilla
[23:23] <JustinA> i think ill try the usbcreater type thing
[23:23] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, sorry, english is not my native tongue
[23:23] <Crazycheese> sebsebseb: trism: thanks guys, Im on it.
[23:24] <enriaf> AutoMatrix as me :D I am thinking in a solution
[23:24] <kikbguy> Anybody have any ideas?
[23:24] <DasEi> JustinA: next to the textinstaller, you can also choose expertmode in where special install options, like grub on usb etc. can be taken
[23:24] <enriaf> AutoMatrix but it is difficult why don't you try to find out a cd reader?
[23:24] <leandropissurno> hello everybody
[23:25] <leandropissurno> i have a problem with my wifi card
[23:25] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, basicaly it would be nice that grub booted the system from a live iso-file which is on the harddisk
[23:25] <TrentonAdams> hi guys, what is the recommended IRC client for gnome?
[23:25] <SharpRain> XChat
[23:25] <eyeron> x-chat
[23:25] <AutoMatriX> TrentonAdams, Xchat
[23:25] <kikbguy> I think it's pidgin, but I'm a newb
[23:25] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> xchat
[23:25] <trism> I'm going to be different and say irssi
[23:25] <enriaf> why xchat what is the different betwen pidgin?
[23:26] <SharpRain> Pidgin is bad as an IRC Client
[23:26] <JustinA> @DasEi: So once I successfully get the live-CD booting from the USB drive, how do I install from the USB Drive to the hard drive?
[23:26] <durt> kikbguy, check which versions of Xorg are being used and which drivers, oss or restricted. going from nvidia to nv in ubuntu does this for me.
[23:26] <njbair> Isn't there an fstab flag to keep it from freezing on boot if an NFS share is not available?
[23:26] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: hmm
[23:26] <AutoMatriX> back
[23:26] <TrentonAdams> Installing xchat-gnome now, we'll see.  I'm using pidgin at the moment.
[23:26] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: Your issue isn't distro specific right?
[23:27] <geekgerl> sebsebseb: not that i know of
[23:27] <DasEi> JustinA: ?? you want to install to the harddrive ?? not to the usb ?
[23:27] <kikbguy> do you know how I could go from nvidia to nv/open up restricted drivers from the 9.04 live cd?
[23:27] <AutoMatriX> TrentonAdams, Xchat is different than xhat-gnome
[23:27] <eyeron> they are identical
[23:27] <geekgerl> sebsebseb: i only have 9.04 ubuntu boxes right now, so i don't have another distro to test on
[23:27] <AutoMatriX> TrentonAdams, and pigdin, is OK but it is more for instant messagers
[23:27] <nexes> stupid question i know, but what version of firefox are you guys on?
[23:27] <zaccour> ok i have gyachi voice chat working it seems but i have to choose a server. how do i know which one? there's lots of them
[23:28] <enriaf> AutoMatrix this this can be usefull http://is.gd/3jxbO
[23:28] <nosmelc> I'm trying to get an Ubuntu desktop machine printing to a shared Samsung ML-2010 printer on a XP machine.  The driver for the printer is in the database, but I get an access denied error.  What am I doing wrong?
[23:28] <durt> kikbguy, does the live cd have the hardware drivers gui?
[23:28] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: yeah  I don't think it is, which means you could ask in ##linux
[23:28] <kikbguy> yes
[23:28] <JustinA> @DasEi - Yes, I have a new nettop with a HD, but no CD drive, so I just want to get the installer on the USB so I can install to the HD
[23:28] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: well even Ubuntu stuff could be asked in there, but really this is the channal for that
[23:28] <Trent_> Okay, xchat is installed, I'll see if I like it.
[23:28] <geekgerl> sebsebseb: ok, thanks, i'll try there!
[23:28] <erUSUL> !install | JustinA
[23:28] <TheCheeze> genobreaker, pm plz?
[23:28] <durt> kikbguy, you could try that, but the setting won't survive a reboot.
[23:29] <leandropissurno> does anybody have a bcm4322 wifi card?
[23:29] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, thanks so much to you and google, you are bot a kind of a pair :D
[23:29] <enriaf> aptitude or apt-get?
[23:29] <garv> is there a "release renew" command for terminal?
[23:29] <eyeron> xchat and xchat gnome are identical
[23:29] <jrib> eyeron: they are not
[23:29] <leandropissurno> Hello
[23:29] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: I even asked some IRC friends of mine  if they could help you, but I guess not
[23:30] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: good luck, altough I am not even sure what your trying to do exactly
[23:30] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, seems like a network-boot to me but we'll see ;), thanks, dear
[23:30] <kikbguy> durt, right, and I can't download the hardware drivers for the livecd because it won't survive a reboot and can't install ubuntu because the screen is still shifted 1/4 to the left in the installation procedure.  I'm definetly in a pickle
[23:30] <leandropissurno> i'm having a litle problem with the wireless....ubuntu recognize the network, but wont connect WPA
[23:30] <DasEi> komputes: erm, easy link, erm, no for sure you can get disk info either by hdparm or smartctl, maybe even hal-specific cmds or hwinfo, then turn this against the size and so have the factor, but as this is different from every drive, there will be no general site for that
[23:30] <leandropissurno> only connects with unsecured network
[23:30] <icarus> i deleted  a lot of valuable files off of a portable device that i had and now i can not get them back as they were deleted permanently is there any way to get back my files?
[23:30] <enriaf> AutoMatrix I don't understand what you meant
[23:31] <Neaai> what other irc client is there other than xchat-gnome? for some reason i like more kvirc or mirc in windowsland
[23:31] <gdoteof> hey guys.  i am trying to get flexbuilder 3 running, and i finally got eclipse 3.5 up and going, but now I need to have a 32 bit JRE running, and I can't figure it out.  i have the 64 bit running ATM, apparently
[23:31] <geekgerl> sebsebseb: thanks for all the suggestions. i'm trying to get a network-based remote setup for mythtv. long story. i'll check out #linux and #mythtv to see if if anyone knows there. thank you!
[23:31] <sebsebseb> geekgerl: ok no problem :)
[23:31] <trism> Neaai: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:31] <AutoMatriX> enriaf, no problem, you set me in the right direction, thats more than OK :D
[23:31] <enriaf> AutoMatrix if you have other pcs is the better option and easiest I think
[23:32] <durt> kikbguy, an autoimage ajust on your monitor won't help?
[23:32] <durt> *adjust
[23:32] <trism> Neaai: my pick is irssi, but that's just me
[23:32] <leandropissurno> alllllllllow
[23:32] <kikbguy> My monitor does not have that option, it is a 42" lcd tv
[23:32] <garv> can someone screenshot there /etc/network/interface file for me?
[23:32] <johnT> gdoteof, I am working on your question
[23:32] <Neaai> trism: i will have a check. thanks for the link
[23:32] <gdoteof> johnT, thanks.  me too :)
[23:33] <erUSUL> garv: two lines: 1) auto lo 2) iface lo inet loopback
[23:33] <gdoteof> johnT, i found instructions pretty explicitly here, http://java.dzone.com/tips/32-bit-jdk-a-64-bit-ubuntu-sys but they didn't work
[23:33] <garv> theres no entry for eth0 at all?
[23:33] <durt> kikbguy, text mode install?
[23:33] <johnT> gdoteof, have you already tried to download the 32bit java package from the sun official site?
[23:34] <erUSUL> garv: if you did not add one no. no by default
[23:34] <mmajor> I really need to desactivate, or at last reduce the sensibility, of my touchpad. I have a dell laptop and it is so sensible that my text cursor jump when I write, making the process of writing very hard.
[23:34] <DasEi> JustinA:telling the whole story brings us back to the beginning then, you got to make the stick bootable, which then is a question for a mac channel, or setup an ubuntu environment;  does the new nettop has any os it yet ?
[23:34] <gdoteof> johnT, no I haven't.  i have the 64 bit running, I don't even know how to stop it really :/.
[23:34] <gdoteof> johnT, i will download them
[23:34] <garv> ive tried two routers, and neither of them will give me an ip
[23:34] <erUSUL> garv: ubuntu uses Network Manager by default for managing network interfaces
[23:34] <kikbguy> durt, that's a good idea, but once it's installed won't I have the same problem with the screen being shifted to the left?
[23:34] <leandropissurno> does anybody have a bcm4322 wifi card?
[23:34] <leandropissurno> i'm having a litle problem with the wireless....ubuntu recognize the network, but wont connect WPA
[23:35] <leandropissurno> only connects with unsecured network
[23:35] <johnT> gdoteof, 64 bits are the future :) don't need to 'stop' them
[23:35] <johnT> me too I have a 64bit version
[23:35] <erUSUL> garv: you can add an entry for eth0 if you want/prefer to use it over NM
[23:35] <durt> kikbguy, but then you can setup tv out properly?
[23:35] <gdoteof> johnT, can they both run simultaneously?
[23:35] <johnT> 32 and 64 bits applications? of course
[23:35] <Crazycheese> Guys, is there any ubuntu livecd release, that has Fx3.5.3 preinstalled for a little test?
[23:35] <garv> it was just an idea, but i cannot get an ip from a router at all with my nic
[23:35] <JustinA> DasEi - No, just a virgin 500GB hard drive... trying to get the install ready on my Hackintosh; I just finished burning the Ubuntu 9.04 CD
[23:35] <Crazycheese> this is getting ridiculous...
[23:35] <gdoteof> johnT, well can I run a 32bit JRE along side a 64 bit JRE
[23:36] <kikbguy> durt, i'm not sure what you mean by set up tv out properly (sorry, I'm a beginner/newb or whatever)
[23:36] <johnT>  I don't know if it works with JRE's too...
[23:36] <JustinA> DasEi - Guess I try booting it on my hackintosh, and see if I can follow the steps to create a bootable stick from in there
[23:36] <mmajor> How can I disactivate my touchpad on Ubuntu ?
[23:36] <johnT> but I have a 64bit ubuntu and i normally run 32 bit apps without even noticing
[23:36] <gdoteof> okay, the 32 bit is installed, johnT.  yeah I do as well.. but int his case i am not sure
[23:36] <gdoteof> ls
[23:37] <DasEi> JustinA: hm, as we started now, you'll get a installation on usb, but no installer medium...
[23:37] <johnT> gdoteof, does Ecplise works right now?
[23:37] <durt> kikbguy, I think your prop is getting tv out working right, which may require adjustments to xorg.conf, but the live cd uses something else to configure Xorg, which I can't remember offhand, anyone?
[23:37] <trism> Crazycheese: well, firefox-3.5 isn't officially supported in ubuntu yet, I assume it will probably be the default in karmic
[23:37] <DasEi> JustinA:further on, as of different hw, next question is will that boot on the nettop ?
[23:37] <gdoteof> johnT, yes eclipse works fine.  it is the flexbuilder that is whining
[23:38] <bastid_raZor> !ff35 | trism Crazycheese
[23:38] <JustinA> DasEi - The nettop (zotac ion/ dualcore atom) will boot USB okay
[23:38] <johnT> gdoteof, whats the exact error reported with Flexbuilder?
[23:39] <trism> I know it is in the repos, my point is it isn't the default version yet, which is why they are calling it shiretoko instead of firefox
[23:39] <DasEi> JustinA:As you did it so far, give it a try and see if nettop boots it, then at least you got a environment from where you (network) can access the cdrom an then install to nettops hd
[23:39] <Crazycheese> Looks like I will have to grab 9.04 live cd and do apt-get install ff35 on live cd.
[23:39] <gdoteof> 'Start the installer with 32 bit JRE'
[23:39] <kikbguy> durt, So you think I should edit the xorg.conf. file?  Is there some sort of guide to doing that?
[23:39] <gdoteof> johnT ^^  then some other stuff that basically says it's okay to have a 64 bit os
[23:39] <attorianzo> What is a "session daemon"? is it different with a daemon?
[23:40] <JustinA> DasEi: Okay, thanks for your help... I'll be back later if that doesn't work...
[23:40] <gdoteof> johnT, i cannot copy paste or even type with the dialog open, it really wants focus, but basically it is saying start it with a 32bit JRE
[23:41] <gdoteof> johnT, so i ran the self extracting 586 jre from http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80
[23:41] <gdoteof> johnT, but i am not sure how to 'run' it or tell the 64 bit to be quiet
[23:41] <garv> is there anyway to see what hardware ubuntu is detecting?
[23:41] <durt> kikbguy, IIRC xorg.conf is not usable off of the live cd, there is another mechanism is use, I can't remember the name off-hand.
[23:41] <johnT> gdoteof, I am thinking about a simlink
[23:41] <johnT> try to go inside '/usr/bin/java'
[23:42] <johnT> gdoteof, /'usr/lib/java', pardon
[23:42] <gdoteof> gdot@gdot-ubuntu:/usr/lib/java$ ls
[23:42] <gdoteof> swt3.2-gtk.jar  swt-gtk.jar  swt.jar
[23:43] <dayo> how do i use something like `passwd -l` for users with ldap authenticated nfs home directories?
[23:43] <dennygoot> hello guys, got a strange thing going on with xsane. i can only use my scanner if i gksu xsane, otherwise it gives me an error message that says "failed to open device 'artec_eplus48u:libusb:002:004':invalid argument
[23:44] <kikbguy> Durt, thanks a bunch for trying to help. it sounds like I have a major incompatability between my hardware and ubuntu, perhaps I should just report the bug to launchpad and hope someone takes pity and fixes it before 9.10 comes out.
[23:45] <docko> please recommend some good tool to check HDD in ubuntu 8.10. it was in software raid1, there were some problems with the drive, now it's mounted in my desktop and seems to be working, but i want to check it
[23:45] <durt> kikbguy, excellent idea.
[23:45] <gcl> how guys, does anyone know how to fix the error message : "audio device "surround 51" is already in use"?.. when tryin to select "5,1" from "Audio > Audio device"
[23:46] <gcl> hey guys*
[23:46] <johnT> gdoteof, already tried sudo update-alternatives --config java, don't you?
[23:46] <johnT> gdoteof, the /usr/lib/java directory appears to be good: you have the 32bit swt installed properly
[23:47] <trism> dennygoot: I don't know if this will help, but it seems to be the same problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtecEplus48uConf
[23:47] <gdoteof> johnT http://pastebin.com/d3a047956
[23:48] <kikbguy> durt, thanks.  I had the same screen shifting to nthe left problem with my 1 year old hp laptop and within a month of reporting it the problem was resolved.  Take it easy guys and thanks again for the help - Adam
[23:48] <dennygoot> anyone know why me usb scanner only works if i am in su mode? xsane dont work, gksu xsane does... it's definetly not the hardware.
[23:48] <johnT> gdoteof, already tried the alternative n° 5?
[23:48] <gdoteof> yes
[23:48] <johnT> gdoteof, you have the openjdk selected, try the 5) - the java-6-sun proprietary package
[23:48] <gdoteof> i just did
[23:48] <johnT> gdoteof, didn't solve i guess
[23:48] <gdoteof> do i need to do anything else, java --version shows 64bit still
[23:49] <johnT> do you need 64 bit jvm? You can try to disinstall it as a workaround
[23:49] <dennygoot> if your talking about java issues, i had a problem with java 6, had to use synaptic to remove it, then reinstall, dont know if that helps but..
[23:49] <garv>  can someone link me to a network card that will work out of the box with ubuntu
[23:50] <Sedated> garv most cards will work out of the box, just try to get a brand name one
[23:50] <gdoteof> johnT, i don't think I need it.  what package(s) should i be removing here?  openjdk-6-jre, default-jre?
[23:51] <dennygoot> these cards are reoprted to work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[23:51] <nexes> garv what card are you using, mine is the broadcom 4328 and it worked fine out the box
[23:51] <dennygoot> oops those are wireless
[23:51] <Blizzerand> lol
[23:51] <Sedated> garv: is your nic onboard?  what's your motherboard or PC model #?
[23:51] <gdoteof> johnT, removing them all
[23:52] <johnT> gdoteof, remove the proprietary packages too, sun-*
[23:52] <Vinceman> there is no space for chaos in lniux
[23:52] <Vinceman> linux
[23:52] <gdoteof> progress, now it can't find a JVM
[23:52] <dennygoot> these network cards should work: http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wired-ethernet
[23:52] <judson_> :O
[23:52] <johnT> gdoteof, ok. re-install the package from sun microsystems site
[23:53] <johnT> the 32 bit one of course
[23:53] <garv> nic is onboard, mother is asus p5n-d
[23:53] <Blizzerand> Vinceman : Can't say that for sure though
[23:53] <dennygoot> anyone know why xsane can only use my scanner when i gksu xsane first?
[23:53] <technot> hi everyone. does anyone know if there is a way to start the gnome vnc server thing, from remote through ssh? my gnome session is running and is logged in, and i got access via ssh, and the vnc port is opened in firewall. just need to start the gnome remote desktop thingy from ssh console. thanks in advance for all help.
[23:54] <gdoteof> johnT, did.  still is not finding the VM.. i am going to add the path that it was installed to into my PATH
[23:54] <Blizzerand> dennygoot " probably because it needs admin powers to be opened
[23:54] <enriqueaf> dennygoot you have to change the permissions for who can use the scanner
[23:55] <dennygoot> this might help with the vnc ssh thing, dont know, i just had ti bookmarked: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-656129.html
[23:55] <technot> i'll check it. thanks alot
[23:55] <dennygoot> i did change the permissions, but it still gives me a weird error like it cant read from the source, which i know is wrong, cause like i said gksu xsane works
[23:56] <nh2> what is the equivalent of Ctrl-C in single user rescue mode?
[23:56] <technot> dennygoot: nah, that trick is for starting a vnc server that will spawn a new x when logged in. which is not what i need :\
[23:57] <Sedated> garv... which ubuntu release are you using?
[23:57] <nh2> I started a ping and cannot abort it
[23:57] <szeck> hei guys i have installed ME Tv and i have the dvb usb in but the program says: No dvb device installed..... the device is in lsusb.... any suggestion?
[23:57] <technot> i need access to my allready logged in desktop :\
[23:57] <dennygoot> ohh, sorry. don't know then..
[23:57] <ubliRj> i have a problem with skype on 7.04 skype: relocation error: skype: symbol snd_device_name_hint, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference
[23:57] <garv> sedated 8.04
[23:57] <technot> i'm sure there must be a simple way.
[23:57] <Sedated> garv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/349712
[23:57] <enriqueaf> technot is as easy as you tunel that port via an ssh session
[23:57] <technot> that's not the problem enriqueaf
[23:57] <garv> sedated i was using the lastest but had the same problems, so i went back to 8.04 to see if it would fix it
[23:58] <dennygoot> ok this is what it says "failed to open device (my artec)"
[23:58] <gdoteof> johNT, woot.  worked.  thanks.  now it is bitching about a 32 bit eclipse
[23:58] <enriqueaf> technot why not?
[23:58] <gdoteof> johnT, but i can get that.. thanks!
[23:58] <gdoteof> ++johnT
[23:58] <johnT> gdoteof, let me know about eclipse
[23:58] <Sedated> garv: that bug report says it works in karmic.  you could probably pick up any cheap card with a Realtek chip and have no problems
[23:58] <technot> the problem is that gnome is not setup with vnc enable.. and i need to enable it so i can log on my allready existing gnome session.
[23:58] <dennygoot> and then also it tosses in an invalid argument afterwards
[23:58] <technot> tunneling vnc over ssh wont get me anywere near my goal.
[23:58] <gdoteof> johNT, will do
[23:58] <garv> yeah just robbed one out of my moms computer works fine
[23:58] <johnT> gdoteof, good ;)
[23:58] <garv> sucks though i didnt want to have to spend any $$ to get this file server up
[23:58] <technot> both vnc and ssh ports are opened in firewall, no problem.
[23:58] <obiwan_> hi, please is thre any command for trace other commands? for example, when i do ls look what system calls ls do?
[23:59] <jrib> obiwan_: strace
[23:59] <bobbob1016> I have a headphone jack on my PC, when I play audio, it plays through headphones, even though I have speakers hooked up.  Is there a way I select where the sound goes through software?
[23:59] <trism> technot: well, vino-server (System/Preferences/Remote Desktop) lets you share the current logged in session, but I don't know if you can start it from the command line
[23:59] <technot> but i am logged in my computer at home, and i need to log into that specific gnome session
[23:59] <obiwan_> thx jrib !
[23:59] <technot> trism: exactly ..
[23:59] <technot> :)
[23:59] <technot> i need to know how to enable it from command line
[23:59] <szeck> hei guys i have installed ME Tv and i have the dvb usb in but the program says: No dvb device installed..... the device is in lsusb.... any suggestion?
[23:59] <technot> normally you go system->whatnot->remote desktop. and hit "enable" and that's it :p