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jonnichevery time I think I understand a little more about ubuntu/linux in general...something opens up and I feel like I know nothing00:02
* _marx_ chuckles00:03
_marx_that's "a good thing"00:03
_marx_yesterday was the first time I'd tried ubuntuone00:03
dobeyhaha00:04
dobeysounds like every other day for me :)00:04
jonnichI just tried it today, but it doesnt work for me00:04
jonnichsounded like a cool idea00:04
_marx_jonnich: "apt-cache show screen"00:04
_marx_screen is like a window manager for terminal apps00:05
_marx_which is a lame description...00:05
jonnichhow would I use that with irssi?00:06
jonnichI can look at the website...00:06
jonnichI'm using xchat at the moment00:06
_marx_xchat is my fav of the gui clients00:07
_marx_empathy and pidgin don't cut it to me00:08
jonnichempathy doesnt seem that great to me and its now the standard for karmic00:09
jonnichI could be missing something tho00:09
_marx_gtalk video chat works in empathy00:09
dobeyempathy might be ok if i could use it00:13
_marx_why can't you use it?00:13
dobeywell when i tried the other day, it crashed00:17
dobeyand kept crashing00:17
dobeyand it didn't seem to  combine buddies correctly00:18
dobeyand i don00:18
dobeyerr00:18
dobeyi don't have time to deal with it00:18
jonnichpidgin seems to have more features...00:19
dobeyheh00:19
dobeypidgin-facebookchat in karmic broke the world for me too00:20
* _marx_ has had empathy crash but not repeatedly00:20
dobeyi still haven't gone and cleaned up that mess yet00:20
dobey_marx_: it was having a probleme with one of my msn accounts00:20
dobeyand it just kept crashing for the same thing00:20
_marx_ah dobey someone, can't recall who, in nc loco team was working on msn for empathy00:21
dobeyperhaps00:23
dobeydon't know00:23
dobeydon't have time to mess with it :)00:23
_marx_roger that00:24
* _marx_ wanders away to pay attention to wife00:24
_marx_she has a job interview tomorrow00:24
jonnichhow does that status thingy work?00:27
dobeyhow do you mean?00:28
jonnichwhen marx said "wanders away to pay attention to wife"00:28
jonnichit wasnt displayed as a regular message00:28
jonnichbut more like a status00:28
lamalex/me00:30
dobeyoh no that was an action00:30
lamalexjonnich: ^00:30
* jonnich oh ok00:30
lamalexor /action00:30
jonnichthanks00:30
jonnichguess I'm just the from the generation stuck on "status" messages00:31
_marx_jonnich: you do "/me some text" universal on all irc clients00:34
jonnich_marx_, thankyou00:34
_marx_jonnich: np, pass it on, little things like that are what makes linux strong(er)00:39
dobeyusing /away is more like a'status' message00:45
jonnichsdkjsd00:45
BloxxyHi; when I installed the client just now, it said that when I launch it, it should open a page going to the window to setup a computer; it did not. It just launched the client, and now I have no idea how to fix it05:18
fixxxer_Hi08:00
fixxxer_I am a tester for Ubuntu one08:00
fixxxer_I am having some issue08:00
fixxxer_Is someone here?08:00
fixxxer_Helloooo!!!08:01
fixxxer_someone here?08:01
fixxxer_I am not able to add a new computer to my account08:02
fixxxer_I just installed ubuntuone on another computer. The initial one was installed on my laptop.08:02
fixxxer_it doesnot show me an option "Add Computer"08:03
fixxxer_even when I click on the client in the notification area08:03
fixxxer_I have tried to restart the computer as well08:03
fixxxer_is anyone here? its awfully quiet here08:03
fixxxer_ Hi08:06
fixxxer_ I am a tester for Ubuntu one08:09
fixxxer_ I am having some issue08:09
fixxxer_ Is someone here?08:09
fixxxer_I am not able to add a new computer to my account08:11
fixxxer_ I just installed ubuntuone on another computer. The initial one was installed on my laptop.08:11
fixxxer_ it doesnot show me an option "Add Computer"08:11
fixxxer_ even when I click on the client in the notification area08:11
fixxxer_ I have tried to restart the computer as well08:11
fixxxer_:(08:16
JanCfixxxer_: stay around for some time, people will read your questions later08:16
JanCduh08:16
zirodayHi! When starting U1 for the first time no web page opens up offering to Add the computer to my account. I'm running Jaunty and I've set my default browser to firefox-3.5, any ideas why this is happening?12:41
zirodayThat and when running ubuntuone-client-applet I get http://pastebin.com/m45e792f412:42
aquariusthisfred, hey12:45
aquariuswhere did you and CardinalFang get to last night?12:45
thisfredaquarius: the eagle has landed12:46
thisfredaquarius: 0.4 is merged and working, with the bits that I needed split out for the server split out12:46
aquariusman, you guys rock.12:47
aquariusso 0.4 is ready for packaging?12:47
aquariusis there anything that's (a) not in 0.4 and (b) needed for karmic?12:47
thisfredaquarius: mostly the Cardinal, I would say :)12:47
aquarius(does 0.4 have the turn-on-oauth-all-the-time thing in?)12:47
thisfredaquarius: that I'm not sure of, CardinalFang?12:48
thisfredI think we have almost if not complete feature completeness12:48
thisfredaquarius: I have a branch which does authentication on the cloud, which was surprisingly easy (after stealing your code wholesale)12:49
thisfrednow I have to make API to add users there12:49
aquariusit ought to be easy. If it ain't easy we're Doing It Wrong12:49
aquariusadding users might be harder :P12:49
thisfredwhich is a little bit tricky, but should be doable tdoay12:49
aquariusare you adding users to .ini or to the _users db?12:49
thisfredaquarius: to the _user db, and then12:49
thisfredyou can PUT values directly into the ini over http12:50
thisfredso that takes care of the credentials12:50
aquariussuperb12:50
thisfredAnd I think I can just reuse the OAuthCapableRequest stuff for that12:51
aquariushope so; that'd why I built it that way!12:51
thisfredwhich is why we love you so much :)12:51
aquariuswell, hopefully the FangMeister can give us an update once it's some sort of sane time there :)12:58
aquariusthisfred, did you see that the couch team are freezing and releasing 0.10? is everything we need in it now? I think it is13:22
thisfredaquarius: yeah, no known snafus13:25
aquariuswin13:25
thisfredaquarius: per db auth will be in 0.11 obviously, but that's server13:25
aquarius*nod*13:25
thisfredalso, all_docs_by_seq is going away, maybe as early as 0.1113:25
thisfredbut we don't use it in desktopcouch13:25
aquarius*nod* I saw that one13:30
aquariusdobey, ping?13:46
marjoleinHi, just joined ubuntu one and13:46
marjoleinI am having trouble getting my computer registered.13:46
marjoleinI end up with the following python error: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'key'13:47
marjoleinFull error: http://pastebin.com/m6a58294213:48
urbanapemorning, folks.14:11
urbanapeAnyone have a clue as to why I can see my bookmarks in the display view, but when I click on an individual item, I get "The document could not be retrieved: missing"14:12
urbanapeIf I open up the actual bookmarks.couch file, I can even see the contents (among all the binary soup)14:12
aquariuserm14:13
aquariusyou've tried refreshing a few times, I imagine?14:14
urbanapeI have14:14
urbanapethe overview shows I have 16 records in that database, which is correct, 15 bookmarks and the view.14:14
urbanapetotaling 64KB14:14
marjoleinCould anyone help me with the following bug? ubuntu one doesn't even work: http://pastebin.com/m6a58294214:15
dobeyaquarius: pang14:32
aquariusdobey, ah, no worries, I was goig to ask how I actually test the oauthdesktop stuff so I can fix the UnknownLoginError, but I think I've worked it out now14:32
dobeyah ok14:33
dobeymarjolein: what version of the ubuntuone-client package do you have?14:33
marjoleindobey: 0.94 r20314:47
dobeymarjolein: ok. there will be a new version in the PPA shortly which should work. that version doesn't support OAuth 1.0a which is deployed on the server now, and would result in a failure like you're seeing. oauth-login.log should have more info about your specific failure14:53
marjoleindobey: Is there an ETA on shortly? (Is it hours or days?)14:54
CardinalFangaquarius, yes, oauth on.  I need testing for the packages.14:54
dobeymarjolein: today.14:55
dobeyso hours14:55
marjoleinok perfect!14:56
marjoleinKeep the good work coming!14:56
rodrigo_jcastro: around?14:57
dobeythanks14:57
jcastrorodrigo_: yessir15:00
vdsMEETING BEGINS say "me" to get us started!15:02
teknicome15:02
vdsme15:02
rodrigo_jcastro: the other day a guy came home to fix my washing machine, and we talked about ubuntu (he's an ubuntu user). so the other day he came again, and he told me some of his ubuntu friends wanted to create a local community here (in Navarra, a region in Spain), so what should I do?15:02
CardinalFangme15:02
aquariusme15:02
rodrigo_jcastro: oh, meeting now, let's talk after it15:02
rodrigo_me15:02
jblount_me15:02
dobeyme15:03
teknicolet's go15:04
teknicoDONE: implemented editing contacts (#406315), talked with markgsaye about the contacts schema and handling15:04
teknicoTODO: fix bugs, add tests and docs for adding/editing contacts (#406315), improving the contacts web ui with jblount (#399664)15:04
teknicoBLOCK: none15:04
tekniconext: vds15:04
=== jblount_ is now known as jblount
vdsDONE:still working on the branch to fix #416050  #418061 and #42802915:05
vdsTODO: finish the mentioned branch, investigate problem with multiple email address15:05
vdsBLOCKED: no15:05
vdsCardinalFang all yours15:05
CardinalFangDONE: Wrung hands until desktopcouch auth worked.  Prepared 0.4 release.  Made packages.15:05
CardinalFangTODO: Test packages; installing virtual env now.  Get upload to Ubuntu ready.  Talk someone into making desktopcouch-tools default in Karmic.15:05
CardinalFangBLOCKED: None.15:05
CardinalFangThe Rock Star, aquarius.15:05
aquarius⚀ DONE:  get dc-records-oauth tested and merged into trunk (bug #415375); work out why oauth wasn't working and fix it; turn on oauth for desktopcouch by default (bug #416413)15:05
aquarius⚁ TODO:  fix UnknownLoginError and make it be known (bug #376087); test android phone sync15:05
aquarius⚂ BLOCKED:15:05
aquarius⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 215:05
aquariusrodrigo_ in da haaaaaaause15:05
ubottuBug 415375 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/415375 is private15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 416413 in desktopcouch "Create login details on initial desktopcouch setup" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41641315:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 376087 in ubuntuone-client "UnknownLoginError during request for OAuth token" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37608715:05
rodrigo_• DONE: Vacation. Dealt with huge amount of unread mail. Tomboy <-> one.u.c syncing. Discussed events/tasks record format on dc mailing list15:05
rodrigo_• TODO: Start upstream discussion for adding social services accounts config to about-me. Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. More tomboy syncing fixes. Notes web UI15:05
rodrigo_• BLOCKED: no15:05
rodrigo_jblount go!15:05
jblountDONE: Fixed dev, landed tabs in pqm, chat with teknico and SteveA about contacts web ui15:06
jblountTODO: Do work! I need to do another branch that moves the rest of the nav to the tabs, work more on bug #40283715:06
ubottuBug 402837 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/402837 is private15:06
jblountBLOCKED: Nope15:06
jblountdobey: tag15:06
dobey☺ DONE: Fixed #397005, Successful rollout, 0.95.0 released/proposed15:06
dobey☹ TODO: Expense receipts, Schedule time off, #374890, #375066, #376787 BLCK: None.15:06
dobeyhrmm15:06
dobeybad irssi15:06
teknicourbanape?15:07
dobeydid he say me?15:09
teknicono, he didn't15:09
jblountYeah, I'm not certain he's around.15:09
teknicovds, close this?15:10
vdsEOM15:10
vdsthank you all!15:10
rodrigo_jcastro: so, what should I do then? Get in contact with the .es loco?15:10
teknicojblount, ok, you can now stop pretending not to look at my TODO ;-)15:10
urbanapeme15:11
urbanapewoops15:11
vdsurbanape: np, just go :)15:11
urbanapeDONE: Checked in and pushed a branch that fixes bug #404193, bug #408282, bug #406839, and bug #396186.15:12
urbanapeTODO: Figure out why I can't access individual records in Couch.15:12
urbanapeBLOCK: None, thank the maker.15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 404193 in bindwood "bookmark records only partially added" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40419315:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408282 in bindwood "Handle multiple firefox profiles" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40828215:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 406839 in bindwood "Update record_type to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/bookmark" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40683915:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 396186 in bindwood "Correctly observe Firefox bookmark manipulation events" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39618615:12
urbanapermcbride, it's not quite ready for testing, I think, because I'm still getting weird Couch behavior after the records show up there.15:13
urbanapeI don't know why, even though I can see the bookmarks in the display view, I can't access them individually.15:13
rmcbridehmm15:13
jcastrorodrigo_: yeah, there's a list, one sec15:15
jcastrorodrigo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpanishTeam15:15
rodrigo_cool thanks15:15
jcastrorodrigo_: and you might want to encourage them to start with a global jam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam15:16
jcastrorodrigo_: that would get them a bunch of experience working with everyone in ubuntu already and it's very low-barrier15:16
rodrigo_jcastro: great15:17
urbanaperestarting my desktopcouch doesn't seem to alleviate the problem, either.15:17
urbanapeblowing away the couch database and re-starting FF to prime the bookmarks db does the same thing.15:40
marjoleinby the way did I just read that you guys are working on an Android client or something?15:45
* urbanape stabs the Firefox error console. Stab stab stab stab.15:47
* dobey is feeling stabby too15:51
urbanapehmm, manually creating a new record in Couch seems to have jiggled things into a state where I can visit the different bookmarks, now.15:51
lucio_inheritance is overrated15:53
urbanapenevertheless, still waiting for that rich uncle to kick the bucket.15:58
urbanapegrumble grumble16:07
dobeyheh16:13
orprasI am getting an error I would like help with, it is regarding ubuntuone, do I post it here?16:27
dobeyorpras: you may sure16:35
aquariusI'm off, because I need to tidy my house ready for it being valued tomorrow for sale...16:47
aquariusttfn, all16:47
thisfredCardinalFang: I have a new and approved branch of dc. It's a minimal fix, but my server branch depends on it.17:10
thisfredCardinalFang: also you're not in the other IRC channel anymore17:10
kenvandinestatik, any status on splitting couchdb's initscript out?17:42
CardinalFangthisfred, is there something else to do in fix-create-contacts ?  0.4 has that disabled, yes?18:02
CardinalFangThe test, I mean.18:02
thisfredCardinalFang: I'm not sure what you mean by todo: that fix is needed to make the server code work at all. I think we can reenable the test too, since it seems to work. I did not disable it myself in 0.4.18:04
thisfredserver == cloud_server18:04
thisfredCardinalFang: ah I see, it was not disabled, but made to pass always18:05
thisfredI can make it work probably18:05
CardinalFangYeah, line 63.18:05
thisfredCardinalFang: I just reenabled it, and it works now18:07
thisfredI had to fix the script anyway18:07
CardinalFangthisfred, wonderful.  Thank you.18:07
urbanapermcbride, you aboot?18:07
thisfredCardinalFang: pushing18:07
rmcbrideurbanape: yea18:08
urbanapeI just pushed lp:~urbanape/bindwood/complete-sync and I believe it's in a good state for testing.18:08
rmcbrideurbanape: cool. I'll have a look18:08
urbanapeHmm, dangit. I was just about to say I'd tried most of the interactions, but one at least still gives me trouble (creating a new bookmark from scratch -> "New Bookmark")18:11
urbanapebut I've tried other stuff: Bookmark this Page, creating new documents in Couch, updating bookmarks in Firefox, updating records in Couch, deleting bookmarks in Firefox, marking documents as deleted in Couch.18:11
urbanapeah, I see why.18:13
urbanapebleah. A maze of twisty little passages, all alike.18:13
* CardinalFang sometimes types "thijsfred" and has to fix it.18:15
CardinalFangthisfred, I don't see your push yet.  I'll land it as soon as it shows up.18:16
thisfredCardinalFang: that's because I forgot to save and committed and pushed nothing... Good news is that when I saved, the tests *did* actually pass ;)18:17
thisfredpushed for realz now18:17
CardinalFangWoot.18:18
urbanapermcbride, fixed it and pushed a new revision to the same url.18:35
urbanape*whew*18:35
rmcbrideurbanape: cool. Pulling/rebuilding18:35
rmcbrideurbanape: any tips on how to use? It always seems to install fine but I never know what to do after. Just install on two machines on my account and see if the book marks sync?18:36
CardinalFangthisfred, you needed a commit message in your merge proposal, which becomes the commit message when tarmac merges&commits your branch.  I added one.18:38
CardinalFangrodrigo_, ^  you should add one to  notes-record-type .18:38
thisfredCardinalFang: oh yes, I keep forgetting that,sry18:38
thisfredand thanks18:38
thisfredit should just take the latest commit message on the branch. Then it would always read "oops forgot to bzr add" or something similar for me ;)18:39
urbanapermcbride, sorry, stepped away for a sec19:08
urbanapeyeah, if you want to see lots and lots of debugging info on javascript error console, you can start firefox from the command line with: $ BINDWOOD_DEBUG=1 firefox &19:09
urbanapeit looks for that environment variable to determine whether or not to spew out stuff.19:09
urbanapeNow, I don't think desktopcouch is syncing with the Cloud, yet, so you'd need to manually get the two machines' desktop couch instances to replicate to one another.19:09
urbanapethe way I've tried this before is:19:10
urbanapeset it all up on one machine first to see that it's working.19:10
urbanapeon the second machine, trash all my FF bookmarks and get the Couch there to replicate from the first one.19:10
urbanapethat will seed it with all the bookmarks.19:10
toroshi19:11
urbanapeThen, Bindwood will be pulling from that Couch (assuming it all got set up properly there, too)19:11
urbanapeand you should see all your bookmarks come back to life.19:11
urbanape(albeit in probably a different order)19:11
urbanapethat's still to come.19:11
urbanapehi, toros19:13
torosjust a quick question: will ubuntu one compatible with xubuntu?19:13
torosI've just tried installing ubuntu one on xubuntu, but it doesn't seem to work at the moment19:14
urbanapeOur hope is that it will be compatible with any of the various *buntu and derivatives.19:16
joshuahoovertoros: i've had it working on xubuntu but we don't officially support xubuntu19:17
torosjoshuahoover: ohhh... what's the trick? ;)19:17
joshuahoovertoros: i haven't tested it recently...let me update my test install here and see how it goes...i'll post here once i have some news for you19:18
torosthank you19:18
joshuahoovertoros: taking a little bit...getting all the latest updates :)19:21
urbanapermcbride, I've got to run a little errand. I should be back in an hour or so19:26
rmcbrideurbanape: OK19:26
urbanapewell, maybe a bit more.19:26
urbanapein fact, actually, I'll take my lappy with.19:26
joshuahoovertoros: ok, i have all the latest xubuntu 9.04 updates and the latest ubuntu one client...rebooted and copied a file into on of my ~/Ubuntu One folders...i got a notification the file was updating and then another to tell me all files were updated....so far, it looks like things are working19:28
torosjoshuahoover: maybe I'm just stuck with adding my computer...19:29
dobeyeveryone is stuck adding their computer right now19:29
torosohhh19:29
joshuahoovertoros: yeah, dobey is right...sorry, i thought you were past that point19:29
dobeyif you already have a valid access token though, it should work ok19:29
joshuahoovertoros: so you never were prompted to add your computer before?19:30
dobeyand fixes for the "adding my computer" problems will be available very soon19:30
torosjoshuahoover: no, it's a new xubuntu installation19:30
torosand it's not very important, I'm just testing Xubuntu Karmic19:31
joshuahoovertoros: i see...well, unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for us to get the fix out before you'll be able to get past that point...but it should work ok for you, though i haven't tested with xubuntu 9.10 so far19:32
torosjoshuahoover: okay, no problem. It's just one of my test virtual system and I was just curious... :)19:33
willytaxhey...need help, can someone help me?20:06
willytaxI failed to register my pc the first time (when the browser page pops up)20:07
willytaxand now I can't get that page again!20:07
joshuahooverhi willytax20:13
joshuahooverwillytax: we're actually in the process of getting a fix out right now20:14
willytaxa fix for this problem?20:14
joshuahooverwillytax: yes20:14
willytaxok, so guess I've to wait20:15
willytaxthanks!20:15
joshuahooverwillytax: the issue you're having is affecting everyone needing to finish the install process...my apologies for the hassles20:15
dobeyyeah, sorry 'bout that20:17
willytaxand There isn't a way to get the page again? (i.e. delete some config files etc..) I tried to find some config file in my home dir, but nothig20:17
dobeywillytax: no, it's a software problem :)20:17
willytaxOk20:18
dobeywillytax: update will be available soon to fix the problem though20:18
willytaxthanks for the answer anyway!20:18
willytaxok, I'll wait for the update, thanks!20:19
willytaxbye bye20:19
urbanapermcbride, back. Did you have a chance to try it out?21:15
rmcbrideurbanape: I did indeed. I had several interesting errors, however now that I look at the console they've scrolled out of history and I'll have to recreate them21:16
rmcbrideurbanape: I'm testing the updated client package right now on teh other machine, so I'll try to keep which machine is doing what straight :)21:17
rmcbrideBindwood: Problem saving updated bookmark to Couch:  message: 'Bindwood.couch is undefined', reason: 'undefined', description: 'undefined', error: 'undefined'21:17
rmcbrideurbanape: mostly ending in messages like this ^21:17
urbanapeerm?21:18
urbanapeweird.21:18
urbanapelooking21:18
urbanapeSo, that happens when a bookmark changes, and is trying to propagate it back to Couch.21:20
rmcbrideLooks like, yea21:20
urbanapeI've updated the code so that there's one shared CouchDB instance21:20
urbanape(Bindwood.couch)21:20
urbanapewhy it would be undefined at that point, I can't say.21:20
rmcbridehmm21:20
urbanapeI've been trying to unearth an old firefox extension that writes the JS Error log out to an actual file.21:21
urbanapeFrankly, I want to kick Firefox' Error console in the teeth.21:21
urbanape_rmcbride, other than those, did it seem to work properly?22:11
rmcbrideurbanape: those were the only types of issues I saw yes22:16
urbanape_rmcbride, k. I'm going to go ahead and propose the branch22:19
urbanape_I'd like for aquarius to take a look, but he's long gone by now.22:19
rmcbrideurbanape_: sounds good22:19
rmcbrideurbanape_: I'm pretty much EOD now. Broken PPA Buildd's == no updated client release today22:20
urbanape_yup22:20
urbanape_I'll see about setting up another instance locally and try to get them to talk to each other.22:20
urbanape_should be fun22:20
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rmcbrideIndeed. If I wasn't working on testing the client so much today I'd have worked a bit more on that scenario. I think I understand what I saw in the logs in context of how things are goign to work though22:21
urbanapeI'd like to know how your Bindwood.couch got set to undefined.22:22
urbanapeI don't see how that happens in the code.22:22
urbanapeI also hate that you can't select multiple lines in the Firefox error console.22:22
urbanapemakes it about useless to share logs.22:22
rmcbrideyea22:25

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