[00:02] <jonnich> every time I think I understand a little more about ubuntu/linux in general...something opens up and I feel like I know nothing
[00:03]  * _marx_ chuckles
[00:03] <_marx_> that's "a good thing"
[00:03] <_marx_> yesterday was the first time I'd tried ubuntuone
[00:04] <dobey> haha
[00:04] <dobey> sounds like every other day for me :)
[00:04] <jonnich> I just tried it today, but it doesnt work for me
[00:04] <jonnich> sounded like a cool idea
[00:04] <_marx_> jonnich: "apt-cache show screen"
[00:05] <_marx_> screen is like a window manager for terminal apps
[00:05] <_marx_> which is a lame description...
[00:06] <jonnich> how would I use that with irssi?
[00:06] <jonnich> I can look at the website...
[00:06] <jonnich> I'm using xchat at the moment
[00:07] <_marx_> xchat is my fav of the gui clients
[00:08] <_marx_> empathy and pidgin don't cut it to me
[00:09] <jonnich> empathy doesnt seem that great to me and its now the standard for karmic
[00:09] <jonnich> I could be missing something tho
[00:09] <_marx_> gtalk video chat works in empathy
[00:13] <dobey> empathy might be ok if i could use it
[00:13] <_marx_> why can't you use it?
[00:17] <dobey> well when i tried the other day, it crashed
[00:17] <dobey> and kept crashing
[00:18] <dobey> and it didn't seem to  combine buddies correctly
[00:18] <dobey> and i don
[00:18] <dobey> err
[00:18] <dobey> i don't have time to deal with it
[00:19] <jonnich> pidgin seems to have more features...
[00:19] <dobey> heh
[00:20] <dobey> pidgin-facebookchat in karmic broke the world for me too
[00:20]  * _marx_ has had empathy crash but not repeatedly
[00:20] <dobey> i still haven't gone and cleaned up that mess yet
[00:20] <dobey> _marx_: it was having a probleme with one of my msn accounts
[00:20] <dobey> and it just kept crashing for the same thing
[00:21] <_marx_> ah dobey someone, can't recall who, in nc loco team was working on msn for empathy
[00:23] <dobey> perhaps
[00:23] <dobey> don't know
[00:23] <dobey> don't have time to mess with it :)
[00:24] <_marx_> roger that
[00:24]  * _marx_ wanders away to pay attention to wife
[00:24] <_marx_> she has a job interview tomorrow
[00:27] <jonnich> how does that status thingy work?
[00:28] <dobey> how do you mean?
[00:28] <jonnich> when marx said "wanders away to pay attention to wife"
[00:28] <jonnich> it wasnt displayed as a regular message
[00:28] <jonnich> but more like a status
[00:30] <lamalex> /me
[00:30] <dobey> oh no that was an action
[00:30] <lamalex> jonnich: ^
[00:30]  * jonnich oh ok
[00:30] <lamalex> or /action
[00:30] <jonnich> thanks
[00:31] <jonnich> guess I'm just the from the generation stuck on "status" messages
[00:34] <_marx_> jonnich: you do "/me some text" universal on all irc clients
[00:34] <jonnich> _marx_, thankyou
[00:39] <_marx_> jonnich: np, pass it on, little things like that are what makes linux strong(er)
[00:45] <dobey> using /away is more like a'status' message
[00:45] <jonnich> sdkjsd
[05:18] <Bloxxy> Hi; when I installed the client just now, it said that when I launch it, it should open a page going to the window to setup a computer; it did not. It just launched the client, and now I have no idea how to fix it
[08:00] <fixxxer_> Hi
[08:00] <fixxxer_> I am a tester for Ubuntu one
[08:00] <fixxxer_> I am having some issue
[08:00] <fixxxer_> Is someone here?
[08:01] <fixxxer_> Helloooo!!!
[08:01] <fixxxer_> someone here?
[08:02] <fixxxer_> I am not able to add a new computer to my account
[08:02] <fixxxer_> I just installed ubuntuone on another computer. The initial one was installed on my laptop.
[08:03] <fixxxer_> it doesnot show me an option "Add Computer"
[08:03] <fixxxer_> even when I click on the client in the notification area
[08:03] <fixxxer_> I have tried to restart the computer as well
[08:03] <fixxxer_> is anyone here? its awfully quiet here
[08:06] <fixxxer_>  Hi
[08:09] <fixxxer_>  I am a tester for Ubuntu one
[08:09] <fixxxer_>  I am having some issue
[08:09] <fixxxer_>  Is someone here?
[08:11] <fixxxer_> I am not able to add a new computer to my account
[08:11] <fixxxer_>  I just installed ubuntuone on another computer. The initial one was installed on my laptop.
[08:11] <fixxxer_>  it doesnot show me an option "Add Computer"
[08:11] <fixxxer_>  even when I click on the client in the notification area
[08:11] <fixxxer_>  I have tried to restart the computer as well
[08:16] <fixxxer_> :(
[08:16] <JanC> fixxxer_: stay around for some time, people will read your questions later
[08:16] <JanC> duh
[12:41] <ziroday> Hi! When starting U1 for the first time no web page opens up offering to Add the computer to my account. I'm running Jaunty and I've set my default browser to firefox-3.5, any ideas why this is happening?
[12:42] <ziroday> That and when running ubuntuone-client-applet I get http://pastebin.com/m45e792f4
[12:45] <aquarius> thisfred, hey
[12:45] <aquarius> where did you and CardinalFang get to last night?
[12:46] <thisfred> aquarius: the eagle has landed
[12:46] <thisfred> aquarius: 0.4 is merged and working, with the bits that I needed split out for the server split out
[12:47] <aquarius> man, you guys rock.
[12:47] <aquarius> so 0.4 is ready for packaging?
[12:47] <aquarius> is there anything that's (a) not in 0.4 and (b) needed for karmic?
[12:47] <thisfred> aquarius: mostly the Cardinal, I would say :)
[12:47] <aquarius> (does 0.4 have the turn-on-oauth-all-the-time thing in?)
[12:48] <thisfred> aquarius: that I'm not sure of, CardinalFang?
[12:48] <thisfred> I think we have almost if not complete feature completeness
[12:49] <thisfred> aquarius: I have a branch which does authentication on the cloud, which was surprisingly easy (after stealing your code wholesale)
[12:49] <thisfred> now I have to make API to add users there
[12:49] <aquarius> it ought to be easy. If it ain't easy we're Doing It Wrong
[12:49] <aquarius> adding users might be harder :P
[12:49] <thisfred> which is a little bit tricky, but should be doable tdoay
[12:49] <aquarius> are you adding users to .ini or to the _users db?
[12:49] <thisfred> aquarius: to the _user db, and then
[12:50] <thisfred> you can PUT values directly into the ini over http
[12:50] <thisfred> so that takes care of the credentials
[12:50] <aquarius> superb
[12:51] <thisfred> And I think I can just reuse the OAuthCapableRequest stuff for that
[12:51] <aquarius> hope so; that'd why I built it that way!
[12:51] <thisfred> which is why we love you so much :)
[12:58] <aquarius> well, hopefully the FangMeister can give us an update once it's some sort of sane time there :)
[13:22] <aquarius> thisfred, did you see that the couch team are freezing and releasing 0.10? is everything we need in it now? I think it is
[13:25] <thisfred> aquarius: yeah, no known snafus
[13:25] <aquarius> win
[13:25] <thisfred> aquarius: per db auth will be in 0.11 obviously, but that's server
[13:25] <aquarius> *nod*
[13:25] <thisfred> also, all_docs_by_seq is going away, maybe as early as 0.11
[13:25] <thisfred> but we don't use it in desktopcouch
[13:30] <aquarius> *nod* I saw that one
[13:46] <aquarius> dobey, ping?
[13:46] <marjolein> Hi, just joined ubuntu one and
[13:46] <marjolein> I am having trouble getting my computer registered.
[13:47] <marjolein> I end up with the following python error: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'key'
[13:48] <marjolein> Full error: http://pastebin.com/m6a582942
[14:11] <urbanape> morning, folks.
[14:12] <urbanape> Anyone have a clue as to why I can see my bookmarks in the display view, but when I click on an individual item, I get "The document could not be retrieved: missing"
[14:12] <urbanape> If I open up the actual bookmarks.couch file, I can even see the contents (among all the binary soup)
[14:13] <aquarius> erm
[14:14] <aquarius> you've tried refreshing a few times, I imagine?
[14:14] <urbanape> I have
[14:14] <urbanape> the overview shows I have 16 records in that database, which is correct, 15 bookmarks and the view.
[14:14] <urbanape> totaling 64KB
[14:15] <marjolein> Could anyone help me with the following bug? ubuntu one doesn't even work: http://pastebin.com/m6a582942
[14:32] <dobey> aquarius: pang
[14:32] <aquarius> dobey, ah, no worries, I was goig to ask how I actually test the oauthdesktop stuff so I can fix the UnknownLoginError, but I think I've worked it out now
[14:33] <dobey> ah ok
[14:33] <dobey> marjolein: what version of the ubuntuone-client package do you have?
[14:47] <marjolein> dobey: 0.94 r203
[14:53] <dobey> marjolein: ok. there will be a new version in the PPA shortly which should work. that version doesn't support OAuth 1.0a which is deployed on the server now, and would result in a failure like you're seeing. oauth-login.log should have more info about your specific failure
[14:54] <marjolein> dobey: Is there an ETA on shortly? (Is it hours or days?)
[14:54] <CardinalFang> aquarius, yes, oauth on.  I need testing for the packages.
[14:55] <dobey> marjolein: today.
[14:55] <dobey> so hours
[14:56] <marjolein> ok perfect!
[14:56] <marjolein> Keep the good work coming!
[14:57] <rodrigo_> jcastro: around?
[14:57] <dobey> thanks
[15:00] <jcastro> rodrigo_: yessir
[15:02] <vds> MEETING BEGINS say "me" to get us started!
[15:02] <teknico> me
[15:02] <vds> me
[15:02] <rodrigo_> jcastro: the other day a guy came home to fix my washing machine, and we talked about ubuntu (he's an ubuntu user). so the other day he came again, and he told me some of his ubuntu friends wanted to create a local community here (in Navarra, a region in Spain), so what should I do?
[15:02] <CardinalFang> me
[15:02] <aquarius> me
[15:02] <rodrigo_> jcastro: oh, meeting now, let's talk after it
[15:02] <rodrigo_> me
[15:02] <jblount_> me
[15:03] <dobey> me
[15:04] <teknico> let's go
[15:04] <teknico> DONE: implemented editing contacts (#406315), talked with markgsaye about the contacts schema and handling
[15:04] <teknico> TODO: fix bugs, add tests and docs for adding/editing contacts (#406315), improving the contacts web ui with jblount (#399664)
[15:04] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:04] <teknico> next: vds
[15:05] <vds> DONE:still working on the branch to fix #416050  #418061 and #428029
[15:05] <vds> TODO: finish the mentioned branch, investigate problem with multiple email address
[15:05] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:05] <vds> CardinalFang all yours
[15:05] <CardinalFang> DONE: Wrung hands until desktopcouch auth worked.  Prepared 0.4 release.  Made packages.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> TODO: Test packages; installing virtual env now.  Get upload to Ubuntu ready.  Talk someone into making desktopcouch-tools default in Karmic.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> The Rock Star, aquarius.
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE:  get dc-records-oauth tested and merged into trunk (bug #415375); work out why oauth wasn't working and fix it; turn on oauth for desktopcouch by default (bug #416413)
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO:  fix UnknownLoginError and make it be known (bug #376087); test android phone sync
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED:
[15:05] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 2
[15:05] <aquarius> rodrigo_ in da haaaaaaause
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Vacation. Dealt with huge amount of unread mail. Tomboy <-> one.u.c syncing. Discussed events/tasks record format on dc mailing list
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Start upstream discussion for adding social services accounts config to about-me. Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. More tomboy syncing fixes. Notes web UI
[15:05] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:05] <rodrigo_> jblount go!
[15:06] <jblount> DONE: Fixed dev, landed tabs in pqm, chat with teknico and SteveA about contacts web ui
[15:06] <jblount> TODO: Do work! I need to do another branch that moves the rest of the nav to the tabs, work more on bug #402837
[15:06] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:06] <jblount> dobey: tag
[15:06] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Fixed #397005, Successful rollout, 0.95.0 released/proposed
[15:06] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Expense receipts, Schedule time off, #374890, #375066, #376787 BLCK: None.
[15:06] <dobey> hrmm
[15:06] <dobey> bad irssi
[15:07] <teknico> urbanape?
[15:09] <dobey> did he say me?
[15:09] <teknico> no, he didn't
[15:09] <jblount> Yeah, I'm not certain he's around.
[15:10] <teknico> vds, close this?
[15:10] <vds> EOM
[15:10] <vds> thank you all!
[15:10] <rodrigo_> jcastro: so, what should I do then? Get in contact with the .es loco?
[15:10] <teknico> jblount, ok, you can now stop pretending not to look at my TODO ;-)
[15:11] <urbanape> me
[15:11] <urbanape> woops
[15:11] <vds> urbanape: np, just go :)
[15:12] <urbanape> DONE: Checked in and pushed a branch that fixes bug #404193, bug #408282, bug #406839, and bug #396186.
[15:12] <urbanape> TODO: Figure out why I can't access individual records in Couch.
[15:12] <urbanape> BLOCK: None, thank the maker.
[15:13] <urbanape> rmcbride, it's not quite ready for testing, I think, because I'm still getting weird Couch behavior after the records show up there.
[15:13] <urbanape> I don't know why, even though I can see the bookmarks in the display view, I can't access them individually.
[15:13] <rmcbride> hmm
[15:15] <jcastro> rodrigo_: yeah, there's a list, one sec
[15:15] <jcastro> rodrigo_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpanishTeam
[15:15] <rodrigo_> cool thanks
[15:16] <jcastro> rodrigo_: and you might want to encourage them to start with a global jam: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[15:16] <jcastro> rodrigo_: that would get them a bunch of experience working with everyone in ubuntu already and it's very low-barrier
[15:17] <rodrigo_> jcastro: great
[15:17] <urbanape> restarting my desktopcouch doesn't seem to alleviate the problem, either.
[15:40] <urbanape> blowing away the couch database and re-starting FF to prime the bookmarks db does the same thing.
[15:45] <marjolein> by the way did I just read that you guys are working on an Android client or something?
[15:47]  * urbanape stabs the Firefox error console. Stab stab stab stab.
[15:51]  * dobey is feeling stabby too
[15:51] <urbanape> hmm, manually creating a new record in Couch seems to have jiggled things into a state where I can visit the different bookmarks, now.
[15:53] <lucio_> inheritance is overrated
[15:58] <urbanape> nevertheless, still waiting for that rich uncle to kick the bucket.
[16:07] <urbanape> grumble grumble
[16:13] <dobey> heh
[16:27] <orpras> I am getting an error I would like help with, it is regarding ubuntuone, do I post it here?
[16:35] <dobey> orpras: you may sure
[16:47] <aquarius> I'm off, because I need to tidy my house ready for it being valued tomorrow for sale...
[16:47] <aquarius> ttfn, all
[17:10] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I have a new and approved branch of dc. It's a minimal fix, but my server branch depends on it.
[17:10] <thisfred> CardinalFang: also you're not in the other IRC channel anymore
[17:42] <kenvandine> statik, any status on splitting couchdb's initscript out?
[18:02] <CardinalFang> thisfred, is there something else to do in fix-create-contacts ?  0.4 has that disabled, yes?
[18:02] <CardinalFang> The test, I mean.
[18:04] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I'm not sure what you mean by todo: that fix is needed to make the server code work at all. I think we can reenable the test too, since it seems to work. I did not disable it myself in 0.4.
[18:04] <thisfred> server == cloud_server
[18:05] <thisfred> CardinalFang: ah I see, it was not disabled, but made to pass always
[18:05] <thisfred> I can make it work probably
[18:05] <CardinalFang> Yeah, line 63.
[18:07] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I just reenabled it, and it works now
[18:07] <thisfred> I had to fix the script anyway
[18:07] <CardinalFang> thisfred, wonderful.  Thank you.
[18:07] <urbanape> rmcbride, you aboot?
[18:07] <thisfred> CardinalFang: pushing
[18:08] <rmcbride> urbanape: yea
[18:08] <urbanape> I just pushed lp:~urbanape/bindwood/complete-sync and I believe it's in a good state for testing.
[18:08] <rmcbride> urbanape: cool. I'll have a look
[18:11] <urbanape> Hmm, dangit. I was just about to say I'd tried most of the interactions, but one at least still gives me trouble (creating a new bookmark from scratch -> "New Bookmark")
[18:11] <urbanape> but I've tried other stuff: Bookmark this Page, creating new documents in Couch, updating bookmarks in Firefox, updating records in Couch, deleting bookmarks in Firefox, marking documents as deleted in Couch.
[18:13] <urbanape> ah, I see why.
[18:13] <urbanape> bleah. A maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
[18:15]  * CardinalFang sometimes types "thijsfred" and has to fix it.
[18:16] <CardinalFang> thisfred, I don't see your push yet.  I'll land it as soon as it shows up.
[18:17] <thisfred> CardinalFang: that's because I forgot to save and committed and pushed nothing... Good news is that when I saved, the tests *did* actually pass ;)
[18:17] <thisfred> pushed for realz now
[18:18] <CardinalFang> Woot.
[18:35] <urbanape> rmcbride, fixed it and pushed a new revision to the same url.
[18:35] <urbanape> *whew*
[18:35] <rmcbride> urbanape: cool. Pulling/rebuilding
[18:36] <rmcbride> urbanape: any tips on how to use? It always seems to install fine but I never know what to do after. Just install on two machines on my account and see if the book marks sync?
[18:38] <CardinalFang> thisfred, you needed a commit message in your merge proposal, which becomes the commit message when tarmac merges&commits your branch.  I added one.
[18:38] <CardinalFang> rodrigo_, ^  you should add one to  notes-record-type .
[18:38] <thisfred> CardinalFang: oh yes, I keep forgetting that,sry
[18:38] <thisfred> and thanks
[18:39] <thisfred> it should just take the latest commit message on the branch. Then it would always read "oops forgot to bzr add" or something similar for me ;)
[19:08] <urbanape> rmcbride, sorry, stepped away for a sec
[19:09] <urbanape> yeah, if you want to see lots and lots of debugging info on javascript error console, you can start firefox from the command line with: $ BINDWOOD_DEBUG=1 firefox &
[19:09] <urbanape> it looks for that environment variable to determine whether or not to spew out stuff.
[19:09] <urbanape> Now, I don't think desktopcouch is syncing with the Cloud, yet, so you'd need to manually get the two machines' desktop couch instances to replicate to one another.
[19:10] <urbanape> the way I've tried this before is:
[19:10] <urbanape> set it all up on one machine first to see that it's working.
[19:10] <urbanape> on the second machine, trash all my FF bookmarks and get the Couch there to replicate from the first one.
[19:10] <urbanape> that will seed it with all the bookmarks.
[19:11] <toros> hi
[19:11] <urbanape> Then, Bindwood will be pulling from that Couch (assuming it all got set up properly there, too)
[19:11] <urbanape> and you should see all your bookmarks come back to life.
[19:11] <urbanape> (albeit in probably a different order)
[19:11] <urbanape> that's still to come.
[19:13] <urbanape> hi, toros
[19:13] <toros> just a quick question: will ubuntu one compatible with xubuntu?
[19:14] <toros> I've just tried installing ubuntu one on xubuntu, but it doesn't seem to work at the moment
[19:16] <urbanape> Our hope is that it will be compatible with any of the various *buntu and derivatives.
[19:17] <joshuahoover> toros: i've had it working on xubuntu but we don't officially support xubuntu
[19:17] <toros> joshuahoover: ohhh... what's the trick? ;)
[19:18] <joshuahoover> toros: i haven't tested it recently...let me update my test install here and see how it goes...i'll post here once i have some news for you
[19:18] <toros> thank you
[19:21] <joshuahoover> toros: taking a little bit...getting all the latest updates :)
[19:26] <urbanape> rmcbride, I've got to run a little errand. I should be back in an hour or so
[19:26] <rmcbride> urbanape: OK
[19:26] <urbanape> well, maybe a bit more.
[19:26] <urbanape> in fact, actually, I'll take my lappy with.
[19:28] <joshuahoover> toros: ok, i have all the latest xubuntu 9.04 updates and the latest ubuntu one client...rebooted and copied a file into on of my ~/Ubuntu One folders...i got a notification the file was updating and then another to tell me all files were updated....so far, it looks like things are working
[19:29] <toros> joshuahoover: maybe I'm just stuck with adding my computer...
[19:29] <dobey> everyone is stuck adding their computer right now
[19:29] <toros> ohhh
[19:29] <joshuahoover> toros: yeah, dobey is right...sorry, i thought you were past that point
[19:29] <dobey> if you already have a valid access token though, it should work ok
[19:30] <joshuahoover> toros: so you never were prompted to add your computer before?
[19:30] <dobey> and fixes for the "adding my computer" problems will be available very soon
[19:30] <toros> joshuahoover: no, it's a new xubuntu installation
[19:31] <toros> and it's not very important, I'm just testing Xubuntu Karmic
[19:32] <joshuahoover> toros: i see...well, unfortunately, you're going to have to wait for us to get the fix out before you'll be able to get past that point...but it should work ok for you, though i haven't tested with xubuntu 9.10 so far
[19:33] <toros> joshuahoover: okay, no problem. It's just one of my test virtual system and I was just curious... :)
[20:06] <willytax> hey...need help, can someone help me?
[20:07] <willytax> I failed to register my pc the first time (when the browser page pops up)
[20:07] <willytax> and now I can't get that page again!
[20:13] <joshuahoover> hi willytax
[20:14] <joshuahoover> willytax: we're actually in the process of getting a fix out right now
[20:14] <willytax> a fix for this problem?
[20:14] <joshuahoover> willytax: yes
[20:15] <willytax> ok, so guess I've to wait
[20:15] <willytax> thanks!
[20:15] <joshuahoover> willytax: the issue you're having is affecting everyone needing to finish the install process...my apologies for the hassles
[20:17] <dobey> yeah, sorry 'bout that
[20:17] <willytax> and There isn't a way to get the page again? (i.e. delete some config files etc..) I tried to find some config file in my home dir, but nothig
[20:17] <dobey> willytax: no, it's a software problem :)
[20:18] <willytax> Ok
[20:18] <dobey> willytax: update will be available soon to fix the problem though
[20:18] <willytax> thanks for the answer anyway!
[20:19] <willytax> ok, I'll wait for the update, thanks!
[20:19] <willytax> bye bye
[21:15] <urbanape> rmcbride, back. Did you have a chance to try it out?
[21:16] <rmcbride> urbanape: I did indeed. I had several interesting errors, however now that I look at the console they've scrolled out of history and I'll have to recreate them
[21:17] <rmcbride> urbanape: I'm testing the updated client package right now on teh other machine, so I'll try to keep which machine is doing what straight :)
[21:17] <rmcbride> Bindwood: Problem saving updated bookmark to Couch:  message: 'Bindwood.couch is undefined', reason: 'undefined', description: 'undefined', error: 'undefined'
[21:17] <rmcbride> urbanape: mostly ending in messages like this ^
[21:18] <urbanape> erm?
[21:18] <urbanape> weird.
[21:18] <urbanape> looking
[21:20] <urbanape> So, that happens when a bookmark changes, and is trying to propagate it back to Couch.
[21:20] <rmcbride> Looks like, yea
[21:20] <urbanape> I've updated the code so that there's one shared CouchDB instance
[21:20] <urbanape> (Bindwood.couch)
[21:20] <urbanape> why it would be undefined at that point, I can't say.
[21:20] <rmcbride> hmm
[21:21] <urbanape> I've been trying to unearth an old firefox extension that writes the JS Error log out to an actual file.
[21:21] <urbanape> Frankly, I want to kick Firefox' Error console in the teeth.
[22:11] <urbanape_> rmcbride, other than those, did it seem to work properly?
[22:16] <rmcbride> urbanape: those were the only types of issues I saw yes
[22:19] <urbanape_> rmcbride, k. I'm going to go ahead and propose the branch
[22:19] <urbanape_> I'd like for aquarius to take a look, but he's long gone by now.
[22:19] <rmcbride> urbanape_: sounds good
[22:20] <rmcbride> urbanape_: I'm pretty much EOD now. Broken PPA Buildd's == no updated client release today
[22:20] <urbanape_> yup
[22:20] <urbanape_> I'll see about setting up another instance locally and try to get them to talk to each other.
[22:20] <urbanape_> should be fun
[22:21] <rmcbride> Indeed. If I wasn't working on testing the client so much today I'd have worked a bit more on that scenario. I think I understand what I saw in the logs in context of how things are goign to work though
[22:22] <urbanape> I'd like to know how your Bindwood.couch got set to undefined.
[22:22] <urbanape> I don't see how that happens in the code.
[22:22] <urbanape> I also hate that you can't select multiple lines in the Firefox error console.
[22:22] <urbanape> makes it about useless to share logs.
[22:25] <rmcbride> yea