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[15:20] <mac_v> bratsche: hi.. you around?
[15:20] <mac_v> right now xsplash , overrides usplash and doesnt display the processes which are loading during boot[the ones which appear on removing the "quiet" from the kernel line] , is there any way to view them with xsplash?
[15:22] <bratsche> mac_v: Oh, where it says like "now starting foo"?
[15:23] <mac_v> yeah... the starting xyz .... OK/failed
[15:24] <bratsche> mac_v: No, xsplash won't do that right now.
[15:24] <mac_v> for the final version it sounds good , but since we are testing only way to check , of anything has failed , is going back to logs
[15:24] <mac_v> oh :(
[15:24] <mac_v> bratsche: any future plans?
[15:25] <mac_v> for karmic+1 atleast ;)
[15:25] <bratsche> I'm not sure that it will ever be in xsplash, to be honest.  I think Mark and the design team want to move in the opposite direction.  A typical user doesn't know wtf dbus or avahi is, for example.
[15:26] <mac_v> yeah , the basic idea is good
[15:26] <bratsche> mac_v: For Karmic+1 the major feature to be added was going to be an OS switcher, so if you're in the middle of booting into Ubuntu then you could decide that you really wanted to boot into something else and you can just do it from there.
[15:26] <mac_v> bratsche: BUT , aernt we reducing features , by removing that option
[15:27] <bratsche> mac_v: You mean the feature to display what part of the system is starting up?
[15:27] <mac_v> hehe , yeah ;)
[15:28] <bratsche> mac_v: Maybe.  But I'm not the person who decides how it's supposed to work.  My job is to implement what Mark and the design team tell me to implement. ;)
[15:28] <mac_v> ;p
[15:29] <bratsche> I expect they might argue that it's okay to drop features if it makes the system more usable or less cryptic looking for their target audience.
[15:29] <mac_v> bratsche: a side effect is... the shutdown will display the processes and not the boot , [since xsplash works only during boot]... for a recent alpha bug , i noticed that the disks were not unmounting on shutdown , hence i could do it
[15:30] <mac_v> BTW , why no xslpash for shutdown?
[15:30] <mac_v> splash*
[15:30] <bratsche> I've heard it suggested that we may add it.
[15:31] <mac_v> bratsche: you mean the xsplash for shutdown? ^ .. add it for karmic or for +1
[15:32] <bratsche> It's too late for Karmic, but maybe in +1
[15:32] <mac_v> :)
[15:33] <mac_v> bratsche: thanks for the info... do poke sabdfl for *not* dropping the option ;)
[15:33] <bratsche> I'll let you do that.  I'm not eager to add more work for myself in xsplash. :)
[15:34] <mac_v> hehe  ,ok  ;)
[15:34] <bratsche> Karmic+1 I'm hoping to be focusing on gtk+ more.
[15:34]  * mac_v waiting for rbga too
[15:40] <mac_v> !grub2
[15:40] <ubot4> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[15:45] <davidbarth> mac_v: displaying the name of the system that is starting sounds like a good idea yes; for karmic+1 though; not sure if we would list the version of the kernel that is used however, that would be quite cryptic for users, except if they explicitely selected a non-default kernel
[16:00] <mac_v> davidbarth: you meant "name of the system *process*" , right? i was mentioning about this option > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" , removing the "quiet" shows the messages during boot... if so great :) ....  Interesting idea though, about not showing the kernel versions...how are you planning to replace the kernel numbers that are listed in grub?
[16:02] <davidbarth> mac_v: no real plan yet; that's something to think about; but the metadata in grub should contain enough information
[16:06] <mac_v> nice idea though ,looking forward :)
[17:44] <djsiegel> DanRabbit1, ping
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[21:39] <MDC1> DanRabbit, you don't happen to know where to get the background from this screenshot? http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/SrEl1vZzvGI/AAAAAAAAC1s/Me2At5_OJM8/s1600-h/dust-0917-screenshot-preview%5B4%5D.jpg
[22:04] <DanRabbit> MDC1: no :( sorry
[22:05] <MDC1> DanRabiit, np, did you get my mail?
[22:05] <mac_v> DanRabbit: heya ;)
[22:05] <DanRabbit> hey there
[22:05] <DanRabbit> MDC1: which mail?
[22:06] <MDC1> hmm.. maybe it wasn't you - sorry ;)
[22:06] <mac_v> DanRabbit: which version of the user-away do you  like ?
[22:06] <mac_v> its in the 22px folder
[22:06] <DanRabbit> Haven't checked yet :/
[22:06] <DanRabbit> I'm about to leave for work in like 10 mins
[22:07] <mac_v> DanRabbit: hehe , yeah David was in here asking for you told him , you are super busy :)
[22:07] <MDC1> and i'm about to go to bed in 2 sec :-)
[22:07] <DanRabbit> haha
[22:08] <DanRabbit> MDC1: What's your email addresS?
[22:09] <MDC1> m...@mejlamej.nu
[22:11] <DanRabbit> OH
[22:11] <DanRabbit> lol
[22:11] <DanRabbit> Id didn't realize it was you!
[22:11] <DanRabbit> I'm actually replying to your email right now ;)
[22:13] <MDC1> i'd figured it was you but wasn't absolutly sure ;-) i'm off to bed.. see ya!
[22:14] <DanRabbit> night
[22:18] <DanRabbit> Alright I'm off again :/
[22:18] <DanRabbit> bye everyone