/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/16/#ubuntu-boot.txt

Michalxo_hello14:43
Keybukhello14:43
Michalxo_is it normal to stop keyb working when in gdm logging screen -> ctrl+alt+f1 -> back to f714:43
Michalxo_and keyb is working no more14:43
Keybukno14:44
Michalxo_well.. it happens to me.. did 3 times in a row.. to be sure :D14:44
Michalxo_and got some images of mountall problem I have with ntfs-3g14:44
Michalxo_will uppload in a moment14:45
Michalxo_cjwatson, I am here, I caught your last message14:45
Keybukthe keyboard issue is likely an X problem, unrelated to boot changes14:46
Keybuk(your keyboard would either work, or not at all, switching to/fro console shouldn't make a difference)14:46
Michalxo_ok I'll past it then there :)14:46
Michalxo_well.. it works here, it works there.. then it works no more :)14:46
Keybukiz gtk bug14:47
Michalxo_http://pastebin.org/1831814:49
Keybuk*reading814:51
Michalxo_dunno how to make it in 1 link :(14:51
Keybukso your two ntfs filesystems didn't mount14:51
Keybukbut otherwise your boot worked?14:51
Michalxo_yes14:52
Michalxo_and on shutdown, I have that error message of mountall14:52
Keybukfuse: failed to create temporary directory14:52
Keybukseems to be the key message here14:52
Keybukthe STOP/CONT thing?  don't worry about that - that's just a random artefact of the shutdown sequence14:52
Michalxo_well.. I know nothing about that :(14:52
Michalxo_haha ok :)14:52
Keybukcould you try something for me14:53
Keybukboot it up14:53
Keybukand open a terminal14:53
Keybukthen run14:53
Keybuksudo -s14:53
Keybukthat'll give you a root terminal14:53
Keybukthen run14:53
Keybukecho -n add > /sys/block/sda/sda1/uevent14:53
Keybukecho -n add > /sys/block/sda/sda6/uevent14:53
Keybukthen see if your two windows partitions are mounted14:54
Michalxo_well.. can't I do it here?14:55
KeybukMichalxo_: "here" ?14:55
Michalxo_or you mean recovery?14:55
Michalxo_why reboot :-/14:55
Keybukoh, you're on the system now?  yes you can do it now14:55
Michalxo_I am there :)14:55
dokoKeybuk: udev isn't running as well14:55
KeybukI didn't say "reboot", just "boot" :)14:55
Michalxo_heh14:55
Keybukdoko: please take a ticket - I'll be with you shortly :p14:55
Michalxo_Keybuk, should taht echo change something in file?14:57
Michalxo_they are not mounted14:57
Keybukok14:57
KeybukMichalxo_: what does "status mountall" say ?14:58
Michalxo_start/running, process 115914:58
Keybukah, no, I see14:59
Keybukit already tried to mount them and failed, and doesn't try again14:59
KeybukMichalxo_: thanks for your help, I can see what's wrong15:00
Michalxo_so? :) update will be soon out?15:00
Keybukyes15:00
Michalxo_thank you... btw ntfs / ntfs-3g in fstab = that big difference?15:00
Keybukno, it understands both15:00
Keybukthe problem you have is that it tries to mount the ntfs partitions while the root filesystem is still read-only15:01
Michalxo_cause with ntfs it works good15:01
Michalxo_aha15:01
Keybukand since ntfs-3g is handled by fuse, this can't work, because it needs at least /tmp to be writable15:01
Michalxo_ah, I see15:01
Keybukntfs is handled in-kernel, so might not15:01
Michalxo_ok then15:01
Keybukthe mounting while / is read-only is a bit of an optimisation15:01
Keybukit seems to be a bit over-ambitious15:02
Michalxo_:)15:02
Michalxo_ok then :) anything you need more from me?15:02
Keybukno, thank you very much for your help15:02
Michalxo_welcome, thanks for upcoming patch and work :)15:02
Michalxo_bye! :)15:03
Keybukdoko: right15:03
Keybukyou said that udev was not running?15:03
cjwatsonKeybuk: where does revision control for mountall live?15:04
Keybukcjwatson: /home/scott/work/native-upstart/mountall15:04
cjwatsonah :)15:04
cjwatsonbzr init it is, then15:04
KeybukI can't push to lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/karmic/mountall :-(15:04
Keybukoh, but I can if I put /ubuntu on the end15:05
Keybukcjwatson: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/karmic/mountall/ubuntu15:05
cjwatsoncool, thanks15:05
Keybukpull again, hadn't pushed the pending changes15:07
dokoKeybuk: yes15:09
Keybukdoko: that's odd15:10
Keybukdo you see any udev output on the console?15:10
dokoKeybuk: no15:11
dokoonly running process beisdes kernel processes is mountall15:12
dokohmm, /var is on it's own partition, mount says it's mounted ro, but it's not the partition (just see a lock and a run dir)15:15
Keybukdoko: mount lies until the root filesystem is mounted, remember15:15
Keybukhmm15:15
Keybukdoko: what does "status udev" say?15:15
dokoKeybuk: udev stop/waiting15:16
Keybuktry "start udev"15:17
cjwatsonKeybuk: did you notice Steve uploaded mountall 0.1.5?15:17
Keybukcjwatson: no15:18
cjwatsonconversion to dh, probably supersedes your pending change if you're OK with it15:18
Keybukargh, why the fuck did he do that?15:18
cjwatsonso that we don't have to remember to use dh_installchangelogs?15:18
Keybukyou don't change people's packaging to another system without at least talking to them15:18
cjwatson10:04 <slangasek> Keybuk: any good reason for me to not switch mountall to dh 7, so we don't have to worry about missing things like dh_installchangelogs in the future? :)15:19
cjwatsonI guess he was in a rush or something15:19
Keybukwell, he can maintain it then15:19
KeybukI'll reassign all the mountall bugs to him15:20
dokoKeybuk: does start, then I get hundreds of messages "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, Superblock last mount time is in the future". after that I can't enter anything15:20
cjwatsongah15:20
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