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YokoZarRiddell: I'll fix it today00:55
keesnhandler: oh, do you have control over the fridge calendar?  for some reason the monday security team meeting doesn't show up (though it's visible in the iCal feed)03:45
nhandlerkees: Yeah, I'm not seeing that meeting. If you give me the information, I would be glad to try and add it for you03:46
nhandlerkees: Oh wait, you mean the Security Team Catch-Up ?03:46
keesnhandler: yeah03:46
nhandlerkees: That is showing up on the calendar for me. 5pm on the 21st on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar03:47
keesI followed the directions on the fridge wiki page, and it showed up in the iCal just fine, but not here: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar03:47
* kees scratches his head03:48
nhandlerkees: Strange, I am seeing it there. Have you tried clearing your cache?03:48
keesshift-reload, yes, but let's try a full clear, one sec03:48
keesstill not there.  hrmpf03:49
keesnhandler: is it possible you see it because you have rights to the calendar?03:49
nhandlerkees: AFAIK, I don't have any more rights than you do03:49
nhandlerkees: An edubuntu user had a similar issue a week or so ago. You might have more luck looking through the Google support information03:50
keesgot another person here to load that URL, they don't see it.03:50
ScottKkees: I'm just syncing rails from Debian so we get the fix for DSA 1887-1 in Karmic.03:50
keesone thing I noticed about the iCal is that it's not "accepted" by the fridge yet.  (no "response")03:50
keesScottK: perfect, thanks03:50
keesScottK: after Alpha6, I was going to try to work my way down the list in the karmic column: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe.html03:51
nhandlerkees: The fridge will always be listed under "Awaiting response"03:51
keesnhandler: ok.  weird.  dunno why you see it.  :)03:52
ScottKkees: Cool.  Well assuming the test build works you can knock one off your list.03:52
ScottKkees: While waiting for Alpha 6 is a good time for Universe stuff since the buildd's are typically not very busy ...03:52
keesScottK: I'm always nervous I'll touch something that mythbuntu or something uses03:53
ScottKRight.  Reasonable fear.03:53
ScottKIt'd by nice if LP had a view for that.03:53
keesyeah.  I've tried to extract the details before, but it's never been very successful.  I only think to bug slangasek or cjwatson about it during a freeze, which is not a good time to distract them.  ;)03:54
ScottKAt a glance, it looks like it could be scripted with grep-dctrl.03:57
slangasekhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/mythbuntu.karmic/all04:02
slangasekkees: ^^04:02
slangasek(no merged view available, I'm afraid, so you'd have to check mythbuntu && xubuntu)04:02
ScottKIs UNR all in Main now?04:03
keesslangasek: ah-ha, yes.  so *.karmic/all should catch all src packages04:03
slangasekScottK: um... I think so04:03
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happyaronkees: ping05:37
dholbachgood morning07:10
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DktrKranzScottK: scipy sync request done.07:51
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AnAntwhy doesn't Ubuntu modify reportbug instead of making a new tool ubuntu-bug/apport ?09:31
AnAntif a developer wants to add bug reporting scripts for a package that he is preparing, he will have to write both scripts for apport & for reportbug09:32
slytherinAnAnt: Not for both. reportbug is not used in Ubuntu at all.09:33
AnAntslytherin: well, I meant that if I am preparing the same package for Debian too09:33
slytherinAnAnt: I don't know how either of them works. So can't really comment.09:35
james_wI'm going to be reviewing things for the next hour, so if anyone has any patches they want interactive review on please give me a shout10:07
AnAntjames_w: devscripts !10:08
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james_wAnAnt: you need to redo the merge against the latest version in Ubuntu10:24
james_wI uploaded your previous work10:24
james_wand then uploaded a fix10:24
AnAntjames_w: huh ? didn't I do so ?10:25
AnAntoh, you uploaded .53 already10:25
AnAntok10:25
james_wI forgot to check it mentioned to the bug in the changelog10:26
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AnAntjames_w: why is XS- prefixed to Vcs-* fields ?10:35
james_wit's not10:36
james_wany more at least10:36
AnAntok10:37
christoph_debianXS-* are not removed by dpkg* if the fields are unknown so every field that is not implemented yet must have it10:38
christoph_debian;)10:38
AnAntjames_w: done10:46
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ScottKAnAnt: Internally reportbug and ubuntu-bug are very different programs that work very differently.11:38
AnAntI see11:39
AnAntwell, I think it would be nice to patch dh_bugfiles to install apport scripts in the proper place11:39
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cortexhugoHi. I am new to the world of packaging. I am working through the packaging guide and the recipes (Brasero)  on the ubuntu wiki. When i give the command to debuild -S -sa I get a error: debuild: fatal error at line 1329: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d -us -uc -S -sa failed. Could someone please advice me here.14:55
danbhfivecortexhugo: I thought it was supposed to fail14:56
sebnercortexhugo: can you post the full error message somewhere?15:02
sebnerdanbhfive: why?15:02
danbhfivesebner: well, I'm trying to learn myself, but basically, the package is outdated15:03
danbhfivebut I don't really know15:03
sebnerdanbhfive: sure but no reason to fail15:03
danbhfivesebner: according to the guide, you are incorrect15:04
danbhfivesebner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate15:04
sebnerdanbhfive: ??15:05
slytherincortexhugo: It is probably because the email address in latest changelog entry (debian/changelog) is not yours.15:15
sistpoty|work-us -uc takes care of that15:16
slytherinsistpoty|work: I wasn't sure he used those options.15:17
slytherinsistpoty|work: By the way, do I have to chase motu-release team members for jav-gnome FFe or will it get reviewed eventually?15:18
slytherinsistpoty|work: The reason I ask is because I am blocked in Debian for next upload. I want to make sure all the build problems are solved in one go.15:18
ScottKsistpoty|work: Would you please ack the clutter FFe, so that can get started.15:19
ScottKslytherin: What bug?15:19
sistpoty|workslytherin: it's on the worklist. of course pinging can speed the process up somewhat :P15:19
sistpoty|workScottK: *looking*15:19
slytherinScottK: bug #42746315:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 427463 in java-gnome "FFe: Sync java-gnome 4.0.13-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42746315:20
sebnersistpoty|work: bah, still no nexuiz :\15:22
ScottKslytherin: Approved.15:22
slytherinScottK: Thanks.15:22
slytherinScottK: should I subscribe archive team?15:26
ScottKYes.15:26
sistpoty|workScottK: approved15:29
ScottKThanks.15:29
ScottKIt seems like we're doing pretty well this cycle to get everything in a consistent state.15:30
sistpoty|workftbfs worries me a bit though15:32
slytherinScottK: done15:33
ScottKsistpoty|work: I agree.  It worries me too.15:33
ScottKsistpoty|work: Want to do another FTBFS session?15:33
ScottKThis time actually announce it ....15:33
sistpoty|workScottK: hm... sounds like a good idea, though I won't find time until this Friday15:34
ScottKFriday is probably good.15:39
ScottKYou should announce it today and do it Friday15:40
sistpoty|workok, will do15:41
RainCTOT: Before I buy it, anyone has an EeePC 1005HA?15:53
adolfon5hello16:03
adolfon5good morning16:03
adolfon5some help plz16:03
adolfon5anyone?16:03
adolfon5i have a problem with Ubuntu edition16:03
adolfon5Ubuntu Desktop 9.0416:04
adolfon5anyone here know something about linux softwares?16:04
pochuask in #ubuntu16:04
adolfon5how can i do that?16:04
pochugo to the #ubuntu channel, and ask there16:04
adolfon5thanks16:05
keeshappyaron: hello!  (i'm not the maintainer of kde-gettext, but perhaps I can help anyway?)16:13
happyaronkees: how can we have that da.po update upstream?16:15
keeshappyaron: I would recommend opening an upstream bug report?16:15
happyaronkees: that would be fine, but I haven't found a upstream link, :(16:16
ScottKhappyaron: dpm is the Ubuntu translations coordinator.  He may have an idea about that.16:16
happyaronscottK, hi, I am just on that team and find a problem for this file in the import queue, :)16:17
keeshappyaron: debian/copyright shows a KDE ftp url, so probably via the KDE bug tracker.16:17
keeshappyaron: I would start with an Ubuntu bug first, so we can get it fixed in Ubuntu's package, then try to get it upstreamed.16:17
ScottKhappyaron: I'd ask in #kubuntu-devel then as some people there know a bit about this stuff.16:17
happyaronkees: I have uploaded a fixed one to the queue, that's fine16:18
happyaronkees: I'll go to find upstream tracker16:18
keesokay, cool16:18
happyaronScottK thanks16:19
dpmhappyaron: I'd also go for ScottK's suggestion: asking at #kubuntu-devel16:19
happyarondpm: okay, will go now16:19
dpmhappyaron: and thanks for your rocking work in helping with translations! :-)16:19
happyarondpm: my pleasure16:20
happyaronkees: the template is not in KDE l10n repository, I think16:25
ScottKjames_w: I'm working with someone who's using Debian Testing and the version of bzr-builddeb he has appears seriously ancient.  Would you have a recommendation what version would be best to use with bzr 1.17?16:25
keeshappyaron: ah-ha, well, then, just an Ubuntu bug then.16:26
james_wScottK: anything later should be fine16:26
james_wI should get an upload to Debian16:26
ScottKjames_w: Thanks.16:26
happyaronkees: guys in kubuntu-devel said the package is not used anymore, and only for kde316:31
happyaronkees: so I think only a ubuntu bug filed is acceptable perhaps16:32
keeshappyaron: okay16:32
superm1kees, what were you trying to break in mythbuntu and xubuntu yesterday?16:35
keessuperm1: oh, nothing at all.  I was just saying that when freezes happen, I don't upload even to universe for fear of hitting a package in one of the isos16:38
superm1kees, oh okay :P16:39
adolfonhello again16:47
sistpoty|workslangasek: would you be available this Fri at 19.00 UTC for another FTBFS session?16:55
sebnersistpoty|work: yeah, another session. /me is keen to follow :D16:56
sistpoty|workheh16:57
ScottKNote to sponsors, there are, IIRC, FTBFS fixes waiting for sponsorship.  Quick turnaround on these will motivate people to do more.16:58
slangaseksistpoty|work: I'm off work this Friday, family in town16:58
sistpoty|workah, ok, thanks slangasek16:59
quadrisprohi guys17:07
sistpoty|workhi quadrispro17:09
quadrisprohi sistpoty|work17:09
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quadrisprostgraber: I've released this https://launchpad.net/nautilus-pastebin, that extension and pastebinit does almost the same, I thought you might be interested in merging some code17:24
RoAkSoAxhey guys , I'm preparing a security update for nginx, and I have a question regarding the versioning. If the version is 0.6.34-2ubuntu1~hardy1, should the security update be: 0.6.34-2ubuntu1~hardy1.1 or 0.6.34-2ubuntu1.1~hardy1?17:24
quadrisproI think it should be ~hardy1.117:25
jdstrandRoAkSoAx: please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Packaging17:26
RoAkSoAxk thanks quadrispro :)17:26
RoAkSoAxjdstrand, yes I'm there but it does not say what to do with versioning when we have ~hardy, ~intrepid, etc17:26
jdstrandRoAkSoAx: ok. please use ~hardy1.117:27
RoAkSoAxjdstrand, thanks ;)17:27
jdstrandRoAkSoAx: thank you! just make sure you mark the status as 'In Progress' so the debdiffs show up in our reporting17:28
* sistpoty|work heads home... cya17:28
RoAkSoAxjdstrand,  bug #430064 :)17:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 430064 in nginx "Security fix in recent release 0.6.39/DSA-1884-1" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43006417:29
jdstrandkees: fyi ^17:31
keeswoo, yes, I'll snag that17:31
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jdstrand(he's on community this week)17:31
keesRoAkSoAx: that version is for backports...17:33
keesRoAkSoAx: current stable releases show:17:33
keesnginx | 0.5.33-1        | hardy/universe17:33
keesnginx | 0.6.32-3ubuntu1 | intrepid/universe17:33
keesnginx | 0.6.35-0ubuntu1 | jaunty/universe17:33
keesbut, for doing a backport patch, yes, append .117:34
RoAkSoAxkees, so I should apply the security fix for both the stable release and the backport?17:35
keesRoAkSoAx: that would be ideal, yes :)17:37
imexilHi,  I'm wondering about the package name "liblua5.1-0-dev" wich is simply the dev package of lua version 5.1 but what does the -0 bit tell me17:37
RoAkSoAxkees, ok, will do then :)17:37
keesRoAkSoAx: thanks!  let me know if I can help.17:38
RoAkSoAxkees, will do :) thanks!17:39
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Ideally for backports, we'd just do an updated backport of the fixed version rather than prepare a separate upload for backports.17:42
RoAkSoAxScottK, ok, so backport it is. :)17:47
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Feel free to ping me when you are ready to have the backport approved.17:47
RoAkSoAxScottK, ok will do thanks! In this case should I update the package to the new upstream version which has the security fix (i.e. from  0.6.34-2ubuntu1~intrepid1 to 0.6.39-0ubunut1 ?) or should I just apply the security fix?17:51
ScottKI'd rather update to the new upstream and rebackport, but it'll need a bit of testing first.17:51
RoAkSoAxScottK, ok, I'll try to find the best solution for this then.17:55
ScottKRoAkSoAx: The testing standard for backports is, "builds, installs, runs".  It's not very hard to achieve.17:56
RoAkSoAxScottK, yep, I'll update the packages and test them17:57
ximiongeser: Hi! Are you there?18:11
geserximion: yes18:15
ximiongeser: Great! Do you remember my packaging of libqt4intf? ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/libqtintf4 )18:16
geseryes18:17
ximionThe problem with this library was that is was not versioned, so I contacted upstream and asked if they could fix it. After a discussion how to name the new lib they released a new version which is now versioned and fixed some other small issues to make the packaging easier.18:18
ximionSo, could you please take a short look on the modifications? (There are no more lintian errors now) If something else is needed, I submit it to upstream. (If you dont's have time, no problem.)18:19
gesernot right now, perhaps later18:20
ximiongeser: okay. :-)18:21
desrthello.  does anyone know how to pass additional ./configure arguments when using debhelper with the 'tiny' rules file?18:47
RoAkSoAxScottK, Should I update only the version in karmic (from 0.6.35-0ubuntu1 to 0.6.39-0ubuntu1~jaunty) and then change the changelog entries for hardy and intrepid, or should I upgrade the versions in intrepid and hardy backports, which differ from jaunty (i.e. from 0.6.34-2ubuntu1~intrepid1 to 0.6.39), so that the we can keep the changelog entry from the previous backports?18:49
ScottKDon't worry about keeping the previous backports changelogs18:50
RoAkSoAxok thanks :)18:51
loic-mCould anyone with backports rights have a look at Bug #333651 ? It's been marked confirmed and reported to work for a while, but still not gone through.18:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 333651 in jaunty-backports "Please backport s3cmd 0.9.9 to Jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33365118:55
james_wdesrt: override_dh_auto_configure:\n\t./configure --what-not19:02
desrtfascinating.19:02
james_wthere's no variables for "append this option" or anything19:03
desrtthat's a shame19:03
desrti guess i can look at the config.log to find out what the 'default' list is19:03
desrtouch.  that's a big list.19:04
james_woh, no, easier way19:04
desrtsome build-in variable for the standard options?19:04
ScottKloic-m: Done.19:04
james_woverride_dh_auto_configure:\n\tdh_auto_configure -- --what-not19:05
james_wsee dh_auto_configure(1)19:05
desrtoh yes.  that's quite a lot better, i agree :)19:05
loic-mthanks a lot ScottK19:05
desrtjames_w: thanks for the tip19:05
james_wnp19:05
desrtugh.  some evil unescaping is going down here.19:06
RoAkSoAxScottK, sorry to bother you again but I have one more doubt. nginx in Karmic is 0.7.61-1ubuntu1, and nginx in Jaunty is 0.6.35-0ubuntu1. According to the documentation we can only backport packages that are already on the repositories. So will this mean that I *cant* update package in nginx, and then backport it to hardy and intrepid right?19:14
RoAkSoAxI mean *cant* update package in Jaunty to 0.6.39-0ubuntu1, and then backport it to hardy and intrepid?19:15
ScottKSure you can.19:15
ScottKThe docs aren't very clear on that and you need to be clear in the backport bug what you want.19:15
ScottKThe docs really mean to say it has to be a backport for the Ubuntu archive, not from some external place.19:16
RoAkSoAxOh ok, they got me confused on it. Anyways, I already have the packages so I guess I;ll setup my test environments :)19:17
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desrtdoes anyone know how to do separate libfoo/libfoo-dbg packages with dh rules.tiny?20:21
* desrt tries the obvious thing20:27
desrtand it works.20:31
pochudesrt: what is it?20:50
RoAkSoAxHey guys, I was wondering, do we still need to care about providing fixes for sparc (since Ubuntu no longer provides releases for it)?20:55
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sorenRoAkSoAx: "need" is such a strong word :)21:00
RoAkSoAxsoren, haha well for exmaple, debian provides a fix for building a package on sparc, thus, in Ubuntu we don't longer provide a release for sparc, so that fix would not help us, right?21:01
sorenWe haven't dropped sparc.21:02
RoAkSoAxI'm asking this because I'f there's no need for that fix, I can just apply a patch in the Ubuntu package instead of merging it from debian21:02
sorenIt's just not a supported architecture anymore. Like powerpc, for instance.21:02
desrtpochu: http://pastebin.ca/156875721:03
desrtpochu: override_dh_strip:21:03
RoAkSoAxsoren, right, since it's not supported anymore, should I still need to care on fixing bugs related to that architecture?21:05
soren20:00:22 < soren> RoAkSoAx: "need" is such a strong word :)21:05
RoAkSoAxsoren, so we don't :), we could but we don't have to :)21:06
zul_its like a hobby arch21:09
RoAkSoAxzul_, ok :)21:10
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desrtPPA builders have a bit of a backlog...21:46
james_wmost of it is scored very low though21:49
james_wit's a test rebuild of the archive21:49
james_wbut just about anything else jumps ahead of that in the queue21:49
* desrt is waiting 2 hours21:49
james_wthough there may be a bit of a backlog independent of that21:49
james_wand the estimated wait times are a little untrustworthy :-)21:50
* desrt does a pbuilder21:51
desrtRelease version:  karmic-alpha-621:56
desrtRelease code name: 21:56
desrtExpected: in 3 hours21:56
desrtoh.  i see.21:56
zookoCould I interest anyone in uploading Tahoe-LAFS into Karmic?21:59
zookoIt is all reviewed and approved and all of its dependencies are in.21:59
zookohttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs22:00
zookoAnd Tahoe-LAFS was featured in Ubuntu Podcast, so it would be nice if people could actually test it out in Karmic. :-)22:03
zookoHere is the Feature Freeze exception showing why Tahoe-LAFS is sufficiently cool that it belongs in Karmic: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/42180222:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 421802 in ubuntu "Feature Freeze Exception: Tahoe-LAFS" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:12
debfx_siretart: could you please update the Debian keepassx package to 0.4.1, so it can be synced to karmic?22:24
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ahei just uploaded a package to my ppa that builds fine with debuild and pbuilder but the build server fails with this error message:23:03
ahedpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read files list file: No such file or directory23:03
ahedpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-genchanges gave error exit status 223:03
aheany ideas what the problem could be?23:04
sorenDo you have a link to the build log?23:09
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ahesoren: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31923435/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.libnotify-ruby_0.3.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz23:27
mruizhow should I modify debian/rules to adopt quilt as patch system ?23:33
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zookoScottK: I've already asked iulian, rainct, and kirkland about this, but none of them have been available to clue me in.23:40
zookoScottK: is there anything I can do to push Tahoe-LAFS into Karmic sooner?23:40
kirklandzooko: i'm totally heads down on virt/cloud stuff, no time for anything else23:40
zookoAs far as I know everything is lined up and ready to go -- we just need somebody to upload it.23:41
kirklandzooko: sorry, i know your fs is cloud-related too23:41
zookokirkland: I appreciate that.  I'm glad Karmic is going to have good virt/cloud stuff.  :-)23:41
kirklandzooko: i mean on particular, assigned tasks;  i'm having trouble fitting anything else in23:41
zookoI don't want to be a pest, but if there's anything I can do to get Tahoe-LAFS into Karmic sooner, then I can ask folks to test it and make sure it is solid when Karmic goes gold.23:41
zookokirkland: yes, I understood.  I'll leave you alone until further notice.  :-)23:42
kirklandzooko: i'm really, really sorry23:43
kirklandzooko: i like what i've seen so far, though, fwiw23:43
zookoThanks for the encouragement!  Good luck with your cloud work!23:44
ScottKzooko: A lot of people are tied up with getting ready for Alpha 6.  Subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors and be patient.23:44
ScottKDid the python package (I don't recall the name) build this time?23:44
zookoScottK: will do.  Tahoe-LAFS depends on three Python packages that are all three in Karmic now.23:45
ScottKThe crytoppp one (or something like that) is the one I was thinking of23:45
zookoIt is in Karmic now.23:46
zookohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pycryptopp&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all23:46
ahesoren: did you find something?23:48
ahesoren: strange thing is the build for i386 succeeded23:48
ahesoren: https://launchpad.net/~aheck/+archive/ppa23:49
ahei tested it on amd64 and it fails on all but i38623:49
zookoOkay time to take my 5 year old boy to see "Up". :-)  If anybody has questions about Tahoe-LAFS, see channel #tahoe on freenode.23:58

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