[02:41] <elky> um... -ot discussion is... well... not really pleasant
[02:42] <elky> "leaf-sheep> Girls love ropes. Especially the one they can't break out." etc
[03:40] <MenZa> vavar in #ubuntu's got a bit of an attitude; it's nothing serious yet, but I'd like to have someone with #ubuntu access around if they persist.
[03:44] <MenZa> Seems to be fine.
[04:31] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: Would you say that was the correct course of action in -ot?
[04:32] <elky> MenZa, the correct course, or the politically correct course?
[04:32] <MenZa> elky: :P
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> MenZa: seems to have worked, so, yes?
[04:34] <MenZa> tonyyarusso: so would a +b, but I doubt that'd be considered 'correct course'
[04:34] <MenZa> knowing aubade, he wouldn'tve stopped unless I flexed my muscles a bit, so I went for that approach.
[04:34] <MenZa> alright, cheers.
[04:34]  * MenZa goes back to perusing #ubuntu
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> meh
[04:35] <elky> although opping up is a last resort thing, not something you do to frame a factoid
[04:35]  * MenZa nods
[04:35] <MenZa> I'll keep that in mind
[05:45] <MenZa> bazhang: Would creating a HFS+ partition be an issue? I mean, as long as there's no specific support on the actual installation or configuration of the software itself, it's just a partition
[05:45] <MenZa> Technically you can run a Linux system off HFS+
[05:46] <MenZa> (According to the Ultimate Source of Truth)
[05:46] <bazhang> MenZa, if he were to be installing on a Mac, not as far as I know; he has admitted however to wanting to use hackintosh
[05:46] <MenZa> bazhang: Still, though. There's no point in bringing it back up, though.
[05:48] <bazhang> MenZa, my inclination is to ask him to desist; if senior operators wish to correct me (wrt hackintosh)
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> I haven't seen the conversation, but I'll chime in that I would be inclined to agree that hackintosh discussion is outside of our guidelines.  Although there is some grey area there, for instance if what they're asking about is how to dual-boot Ubuntu on their hackintosh...  Dunno about that one.
[05:51] <bazhang> he was asking how to install iacktos v7 on an amd computer
[06:15] <MenZa> In my lastlog, all I saw were references to create a HFS+ partition. I'd be inclined to agree with youf if I'd seen that :)
[06:32] <nalioth> hackintosh is off topic (it violates agreements)
[10:41] <Alvinware> why i have been banned again just after a day of my lifted ban?
[10:42] <Alvinware> I didn't done any things wrong.
[10:42] <Alvinware> please answer me.
[10:44] <Flannel> Alvinware: Your ban wasn't lifted
[10:44] <Alvinware> why?
[10:44] <Alvinware> It were lifted at yesterday.
[10:45] <Flannel> Alvinware: Because it wasn't lifted yet.  The standard reason for it not being lifted would be: you haven't discussed your behavior to the operator's satisfaction.
[10:46] <Alvinware> you're wrong.
[10:50] <Alvinware> who banned me again? is it ikonia?
[10:50] <jussi01> Alvinware: just a moment please
[10:52] <Flannel> Alright, seems to be that one of your bans was missed yesterday, let me go ahead and remove it.
[10:52] <jussi01> DOne
[10:52] <Flannel> er, let jussi01 beat me to removing it
[10:52] <jussi01> Alvinware: feel free to join #ubuntu, but please remember the guidelines
[10:52] <Flannel> Alvinware: Double check that you can join #ubuntu now please
[10:53] <Alvinware> thank you.
[11:07] <ikonia> sorry chaps, I thought I'd got them all for him
[11:07] <Flannel> ikonia: No worries
[11:07] <ikonia> he had some many because he was ban dodging
[11:07] <Flannel> I jsut didn't see anything in the lastlog, and ubottu on the internet was being slow
[11:23] <jussi01> !away > heroid
[11:26] <ikonia> I'm coming to the point where I am want freenode to take action against the archlinux-offtopic trolls
[11:26] <ikonia> they are posting spam links in #ubuntu for fun
[15:43] <Tm_T> ikonia: slap st-aff
[16:08]  * genii-around sips
[16:20] <Tm_T> ikonia: if you have logs'n'stuff, I would like to read them aswell
[17:49] <MenZa> As would I
[17:59] <ikonia> Tm_T: MenZa it's been going on for ages, they discuss it in #archlinux-offtopic then do it for a laugh in #ubuntu, just ban them now each time they do something as it's pointless giving them the benifit of the doubt when they are discussing/laughing about doing it in #archlinux-offtopic
[18:00] <MenZa> ikonia: Any common themes, anything to look out for in particular?
[18:01] <ikonia> nope
[18:01] <MenZa> hm
[18:01] <ikonia> they are in #archlinux-offtopic - talk about doing things LIKe TALKINg LIKe THIs To ANNOy PEOPLe
[18:01] <ikonia> or posting their blog llinks
[18:01] <ikonia> that sort of thing
[18:02] <MenZa> right
[18:02]  * MenZa is now in #archlinux-offtopic to spot trouble.
[18:02] <ikonia> or "ubuntu suck"
[18:02] <ikonia> the list is endless
[18:02] <Myrtti> they've given the whole distribution a bad name in my books
[18:03] <ikonia> very much
[18:03] <Pici> Myrtti: mine too
[18:03] <ikonia> more so when some of them are supposed to be active developers
[18:03] <ikonia> I'm actually a little dissapointed in freenode not taking action against this, but I'm sure they have their reasons
[18:04]  * Pici looks at their channel topic
[18:04] <MenZa> I noticed this also
[18:05]  * Pici tucks away the window where it wont be annoying
[18:05] <MenZa> ikonia: There's not really a lot to do to a channel like that collectively, I guess.
[18:05] <ikonia> to be honest - I don't care about that, they can be loser with their topic/rules, but the attacking other channels it not acceptable
[18:05] <MenZa> Pici: Mine's resting nicely in /window 84
[18:05] <Pici> MenZa: 50 here
[18:05] <Pici> well, 49 now.
[18:05] <MenZa> heh
[18:06]  * MenZa gives Pici the massage he's earned for his pdpc mask.
[18:06] <ikonia> not everyone wears the mask ;)
[18:06] <Myrtti> I think I might've forgotten my powerbrick at my sisters - I'm pissed
[18:07] <MenZa> ikonia: I'm, alas, stuck at student. Still, I feel happy for contributing.
[18:08] <MenZa> ikonia: Also, I was thinking, perhaps the IRCC could make contact with the #arch-ot channel leaders and point out the issue?
[18:08] <Pici> I like the alliteration in mine.
[18:10] <MenZa> It's just an odd idea, though. I guess sending an e-mail signed by the IRCC might have an affect.
[18:10] <MenZa> I'm pretty sure if complaints were sent from the ##windows folk to our IRCC, they'd take action immediately.
[18:13] <nalioth> MenZa: any contact should be directed at Archlinux itself, not " #archlinux-offtopic channel leaders "
[18:16] <MenZa> I assumed they were the same people.
[18:16] <MenZa> and that arch-ot was an official channel of the Archlinux project.
[18:18] <nalioth> oh, it is an "official channel", but they may not structure their project's irc space like we do
[18:18] <Pici> And the current channel operators don't seem to be doing anything about the issue, obviously.
[18:19] <MenZa> nalioth: point.
[18:19] <MenZa> Pici: An official inquiry might change that.
[18:21] <nalioth> MenZa: to the mother ship
[18:28] <MenZa> \o/
[20:15] <Flannel> yay ban evading
[20:15] <Flannel> 119.11.* would probably be too vague?
[20:15] <Flannel> hmm
[20:16] <mneptok> Flannel: he doesn't change ident
[20:16] <Flannel> Aye
[20:17] <Flannel> mneptok: Darn you for mentioning it
[20:18] <Flannel> what about .4.* and .5.*?
[20:20] <mneptok> that looks like it would get him, given /lastlog
[20:20] <Flannel> Yeah, but acceptable splash?
[20:21] <mneptok> there's no one else from those netmasks, given /lastlog
[20:21] <Flannel> alright
[20:25] <KB1JWQ> Flannel: Why'd you kick lyons?
[20:25] <Flannel> KB1JWQ: Because he's the same guy whos been trolling
[20:26] <KB1JWQ> How sure are we of that?
[20:26] <Flannel> (and ban evading)
[20:26] <KB1JWQ> I'm not arguing, just asking. :-)
[20:26] <KB1JWQ> He just whined in #freenode.
[20:27] <lyons> Hi. I just got banned from #ubuntu as soon as I joined. Freenode told me to ask in here
[20:29] <lyons> hello?
[20:30] <mneptok> lyons: did you use the nick "Krudd" today?
[20:30] <lyons> krudd? lol no
[20:30] <lyons> i just woke up
[20:30] <mneptok> well, there is a persistent troll from your netblock.
[20:30] <lyons> they told me it's cause i have a dymaic ip
[20:30] <lyons> whatever that is
[20:30] <mneptok> this person keeps getting a new IP lease and using it to ban evade.
[20:30] <lyons> how do i get a static ip so i can join?
[20:31] <mneptok> talk to yuor ISP.
[20:31] <mneptok> *youer
[20:31] <mneptok> thasdewrga bhrs d
[20:31] <mneptok> Y O U R
[20:31] <lyons> then i can join?
[20:31] <mneptok> not necessarily. the static IP may be in the same netblock that is banned to keep the troll out.
[20:31] <lyons> i don't really get it, but i didn't do anything lol
[20:32] <lyons> can I ask you about my problem or what?
[20:32] <lyons> hmm well there is a lot of ppl that use my isp. is it all banned?
[20:32] <lyons> like 1/4 of australia lolz
[20:33] <mneptok> well, someone using your ISP is causing majpor problems in #ubuntu. and keeps ban-evading.
[20:33] <lyons> yeah man but I didn't do anything myself
[20:33] <Flannel> lyons: Alright, give me a second to remove the ban, we'll see what we can do.
[20:33] <lyons> ok thanks
[20:33] <lyons> or if you could just help me here maybe?
[20:34] <lyons> is that allowed?
[20:34] <Flannel> lyons: Try joining #ubuntu
[20:34] <lyons> says "You are banned"
[20:34] <Flannel> Oh wait, thats because I...
[20:34] <lyons> i have to go to school soon lolz
[20:35] <lyons> i just need to fix this gnome thing
[20:35] <mneptok> lyons: in my experience, it's easier to type . than lolz
[20:35] <lyons> huh?
[20:35] <Flannel> lyons: Try again
[20:35] <lyons> ya it worked
[20:35] <lyons> can i ask in there now?
[20:36] <Flannel> lyons: yes
[20:36] <lyons> ok i did . thanks
[20:40] <lyons> I can't rest until the whole ISP is banned forever
[20:40] <lyons> please help
[20:40] <lyons> it would really piss off so many ppl
[20:41] <lyons> ubuntu geeks at school
[20:41] <lyons> i told them they would be banned today. And they will LOLZ
[20:41] <mneptok> !lol
[20:41] <lyons> LOL
[20:41] <lyons> ban the ISP
[20:41] <lyons> forever please
[20:42] <mneptok> not happening. anything else?
[20:42] <lyons> Fedora rules. No ubuntu for my school!
[20:42] <lyons> i'll just keep changing my ip then
[20:42] <Myrtti> buhbye
[20:42] <lyons> you have to ban the b class
[20:42] <lyons> please!
[20:42] <lyons> i hate those ubuntu geekers. Fedora is the best0rz
[20:43] <Myrtti> strike 1
[20:43] <mneptok> angerfinn
[20:43] <Pici> Flannel: poing
[20:43] <Flannel> Pici: aye
[20:46] <Flannel> Pici: the suspense is killing me
[20:46] <Pici> Flannel: oh, I just wanted to make sure you saw that recent stuff about lyons
[20:47] <Flannel> Yeah, nothing important he didn't already say in a query
[20:47] <Flannel> well, at least about trying to get the B banned
[20:47] <Flannel> not the school/fedora stuff, but that's not important
[20:48] <Pici> Flannel: I saw you were adjusting modes while he was talking in here, just was trying to get your attention to this channel.
[20:48] <Flannel> Mhmm.  Just clearing out the redundant individual bans
[20:48] <Pici> ah
[20:48] <Pici> okay, nevermind then.
[20:49] <Flannel> silly trolls, trix are for kids.
[21:06] <jussi01_> Evening all
[21:22] <Myrtti> [23:21] < Ninja67> m33 mtl cherche femme qui aime ubuntu et qui veullent  parler
[21:23] <ikonia> ?
[22:00] <mneptok> Myrtti: "i'm in Montreal and i'm looking for a woman that loves Ubuntu and wants to talk"
[22:01] <ikonia> ????
[22:03] <mneptok> ikonia: is my translation incorrect?
[22:03] <ikonia> no idea
[22:13] <Veinor> So apparently I got banned somehow.
[22:13] <ikonia> Veinor: ho, thanks for joining
[22:13] <ikonia> I'm just looking now
[22:13] <Veinor> Kay.
[22:14] <ikonia> Veinor: interesting I'm not seeing anything that should be banning you
[22:14] <Veinor> Yeah.
[22:15] <Veinor> hmm.
[22:15] <ikonia> Veinor: I assume you are using the same ip/connection as your veinor_ connection in #ubuntu ?
[22:15] <Veinor> I have a theory.
[22:15] <Veinor> BRB.
[22:15] <ikonia> ok
[22:15] <mneptok> @login
[22:16] <ikonia> Veinor: resolved ?
[22:16] <Veinor> Found it.
[22:16] <ikonia> I'm going to need someone with access to #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-server in a minute I feel
[22:16] <Veinor> Gotta change my real_name.
[22:16] <ikonia> Veinor: could you explain
[22:16] <ikonia> Veinor: ahhh I missed that
[22:17] <ikonia> well spotted, sorry
[22:17] <Veinor> Yeah.
[22:17] <Veinor> THanks for helping anyway.
[22:17] <ikonia> thank you for changing it
[22:17] <Veinor> no problem. Later.
[22:18] <ikonia> bye
[22:58] <ikonia> I must sleep now, I feel keeping an eye on #ubuntu-server and #ubuntu-devel prudent with xcdfgkjhgcv's presense in them.
[23:36] <Pici> !staff
[23:37] <Pici> Got a lot of bots hanging out in #ubuntu-unregged
[23:37] <Pici> thanks to whoever