[00:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: hey - how could you check if you run in a virtual machine?
[00:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: /proc/cpuinfo gives some hints
[00:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: QEMU Virtual CPU version 0.10.92
[00:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: I've been playing with facter (related to puppet)
[00:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: it's used to provide facts about your system
[00:02] <kirkland> mathiaz: neat
[00:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/facter/master/annotate/head%3A/lib/facter/virtual.rb
[00:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^ this is the ruby code that checks whether you're running in a virtual or physical machine
[00:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/facter/master/annotate/head%3A/lib/facter/util/virtual.rb
[00:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^ that's the actual code
[00:04] <mathiaz> kirkland: kvm/qemu doesn't seem to be supported - how could you detect that?
[00:04] <kirkland> mathiaz: /proc/cpu/info
[00:04] <kirkland> mathiaz: /proc/cpuinfo
[00:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah, it's not in that file
[00:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: kvm/qemu is easy
[00:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: and grep for module name?
[00:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: grep "^model name.*QEMU Virtual CPU"
[00:05] <kirkland> mathiaz: grep "^model name.*QEMU Virtual CPU" /proc/cpuinfo
[00:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: grep "^model name.*QEMU" /proc/cpuinfo
[00:06] <kirkland> that would do it
[00:06] <mathiaz> kirkland: great - thanks
[00:06] <dna265> hello all
[00:06] <kirkland> mathiaz: make sure you give me copyright assignment!
[00:07] <kirkland> mathiaz: j/k :-)
[00:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://projects.reductivelabs.com/issues/2067#note-10
[00:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: they mentions having the hypervisor flag set
[00:10] <docko> please recommend some good tool to check HDD in ubuntu 8.10. the disk was in software as a part of software raid1, there were some problems with the drive, now it's mounted in my desktop and seems to be working, but i want to check it
[00:15] <zul> kees: http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/net-snmp/trunk/net-snmp/agent/mibgroup/host/hr_proc.c?r1=17265&r2=17415
[00:21] <kees> zul: oh nice!  Can you add that to the bug report?
[00:21] <kees> zul: changed again later: http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/net-snmp/trunk/net-snmp/agent/mibgroup/host/hr_proc.c?r1=17415&r2=17616
[00:22] <kees> http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/net-snmp/trunk/net-snmp/agent/mibgroup/host/hr_proc.c?view=log#rev17415
[00:22] <kees> I think two authors fixed the same bug differently.  ;)
[00:28] <zul> kees: ill take a crack at fixing it tomorrow
[00:29] <kees> cool, thanks
[00:29] <zul> watching flight 666 right now
[00:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: sure
[00:34] <mathiaz> kirkland: let me check the moodle maintainer scripts
[00:34] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's dh_input critical * in config
[00:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - and the dependencies will screw everything
[00:36] <mathiaz> kirkland: the moodle .config script will run *before* the moodle-appliance .config script
[00:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: since the moodle-appliance would depend on moodle
[00:37] <kirkland> mathiaz: poop
[00:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: next solution in the line: puppet
[00:38] <mathiaz> kirkland: you can create a puppet manifest that will configure everything at boot time
[00:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: did your brain just explode because of how brilliant my solution is?
[00:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'm thinking about it
[00:40] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'm just really frustrated vmbuilder can't put the goddamn package into the image
[00:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: right
[00:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: another solution is to add support for preseed to vmbuilder
[00:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: both puppet and d-i support this
[00:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes
[00:42] <kirkland> mathiaz: that needs to be done
[00:43] <mathiaz> kirkland: so two solutions: 1. puppet recipe 2. vmbuilder preseed support
[00:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: 2. requires some python hacking
[00:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: 1. requires a new system to learn
[00:44] <kirkland> mathiaz: there's no reasonable way i can force moodle-appliance to be installed before moodle ?  (besides pre-depends, which i don't want)?
[00:44] <mathiaz> kirkland: well - you'd have to modify the moodle package
[00:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: that's the only way?
[00:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: uploading a moodle package to the virtual-appliance PPA
[00:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah, i'm thinking about that
[00:45] <mathiaz> kirkland: with a moodle package depending on moodle-appliance
[00:45] <kirkland> mathiaz: i was thinking that moodle could provide moodle-appliance
[00:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm - well then you don't a moodle appliance package
[00:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: you just modify the moodle package to actually do what you want
[00:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: now - does vmbuilder support insalling packages from another PPA?
[00:46] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes, it does do that
[00:46] <mathiaz> kirkland: probably yes - as the postinst script
[00:47] <mathiaz> kirkland: ah! what about using the --exec option?
[00:48] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271763/
[00:48] <mathiaz> kirkland: you can preseed all the debconf question in there and *then* apt-get install moodle
[00:48] <mathiaz> kirkland: there == postinst script
[00:49] <kirkland> mathiaz: hmm, that looks promising
[00:49] <kirkland> mathiaz: rock on, i'll knock this around
[00:50] <mathiaz> kirkland: yeah -that should do it
[00:50] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks
[00:50] <mathiaz> kirkland: moodle config doesn't reset debconf question
[00:50] <kirkland> mathiaz: thank goodness
[00:50] <mathiaz> kirkland: so preseeding with debconf-set-selection *before* installing the package should work
[00:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: well - some scripts reset the seen flag
[00:51] <kirkland> bastards
[00:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: under some circumstances
[00:51] <mathiaz> kirkland: anyway - looks like a promising solution to me
[00:51] <kirkland> mathiaz: i think so
[00:52] <kirkland> mathiaz: thanks for the brainstorming
[00:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: ah no
[00:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: won't work
[00:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: the mysql database is not running in the guest :/
[00:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: so the postinst will fail
[00:52] <mathiaz> kirkland: is it will not be able to create the tables
[00:53] <kirkland> mathiaz: doh
[00:53] <mathiaz> kirkland: wait
[00:53] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'm reading moodle postinst script
[00:55] <mathiaz> kirkland: hm
[00:55] <mathiaz> kirkland: so it may be possible
[00:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: the postinst script checks whether you want to create the db manually
[00:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: so you can preseed that question
[00:56] <thiagocrepaldi> any auth-client-config magician around ? i followed openldap server tutorial on ubuntu server 9.04 guide and it do not authenticate pam against ldap =/
[00:56] <mathiaz> kirkland: moodle/db_create
[00:57] <mathiaz> kirkland: what the script actually does (in DoMySQL) is to create a database
[00:57] <kirkland> mathiaz: and then do that at machine startup
[00:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: right
[00:58] <mathiaz> kirkland: I was checking if you could use mysqldadmin to actually create the database when building the appliance
[00:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: but it requires a running mysqld
[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: well, i'm using postgres
[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: but i get your point
[00:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: ah - I haven't checked postgres
[00:59] <kirkland> mathiaz: it defaults to postgresql
[01:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: oh - then I think you're lucky
[01:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: IIRC postgres doesn't require a running daemon
[01:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: I may be wrong though
[01:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: the rest of the postinst looks good to me
[01:03] <mathiaz> kirkland: it may well work correctly
[01:03] <kirkland> mathiaz: cool, thanks for the look
[07:20] <kansan> how do i get rubygems > 1.3.1 on ubuntu hardy?  http://pastie.org/618463  is my attempt; failed :(
[07:35] <twb> kansan: you don't.
[07:37] <twb> Installing newer releases into an LTS environment breaks the whole point of using an LTS environment.
[08:16] <CppIsWeird> im trying to get cpu temps on my server, from what ive read i should be seeing something in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone. If i see nothing in thermal_zone, does this mean that I do not have the ability to see my cpu's temp or do I have to install something further?
[08:19] <_ruben> installinst lm-sensers tends to be a good start
[08:19] <_ruben> s/installinst/installing/
[08:19] <CppIsWeird> i have also done that
[08:20] <CppIsWeird> i still see nothing in thermal_zone
[08:20] <CppIsWeird> would a reboot be required?
[08:20] <_ruben> run sensor-detect to configure, then sensors to see the result
[08:23] <CppIsWeird> do you want to add these lines automatically? NO is bold. what does this mean exactly?
[08:24] <CppIsWeird> nvm, i figured it out
[08:24] <_ruben> some stuff needs to be added to some files
[08:24] <_ruben> ok
[08:24] <CppIsWeird> my modules file
[08:25] <CppIsWeird> sensors command displays what i want, however i still have nothing in thermal_zone. any idea why?
[08:27] <_ruben> nope, never used /proc for temp info
[08:27] <_ruben> might need to load some (acpi) modules or so
[08:28] <CppIsWeird> ah, ok, i'll have to google around with it some more. thanks for the help getting me started. :)
[08:58] <soren> Whoo! My ISP just started offering 40/8 Mbit (down/up) connections.
[08:58] <_ruben> nice
[08:59] <_ruben> my cable isp can get me 50/3 atm .. downstream increasing to 100+ early next year .. rather pricy tho
[08:59] <_ruben> currently at 20/1 dsl
[08:59] <henkjan> soren: fiber to the home?
[09:01] <soren> henkjan: VDSL2.
[09:02] <soren> _ruben: 40/8 weighs in at around €65.
[09:02] <twb> .au maxes out at ADSL2+, which IIRC is 20mbps down.
[09:04] <twb> With throttling or excess charges if you download more than xGiB/mo.
[09:05] <henkjan> FttH overhere 35,- for 35/35 (with a free upgrade to 100/100)
[09:06] <_ruben> henkjan: where's that?
[09:06] <henkjan> _ruben: Rijssen
[09:06] <soren> FttH?
[09:06] <_ruben> soren: abount the same for 50/3 i think, tho it'd include tv and phone as well
[09:06] <_ruben> henkjan: which isp?
[09:06] <soren> _ruben: Oh, right, this includes phone as well.
[09:06] <henkjan> concepts ict
[09:07] <henkjan> (the 100Mbit is not from concepts ;) )
[09:07] <soren> henkjan: 35 what? Euros?
[09:07] <henkjan> yep, 35,- EUR
[09:07] <soren> henkjan: And why on Earth would anyone be on 35/35 if the upgrade to 100/100 is free?
[09:07] <twb> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network is the .au government propaganda about FTTH.
[09:07] <henkjan> not exactly free
[09:07] <henkjan> poking the right persons :)
[09:08] <_ruben> i pay about 30 euro for my 20/1 now i think
[09:08] <twb> henkjan: photos of the right people doing the wrong things
[09:08] <henkjan> i just asked for native ipv6 and got 100/100 :)
[09:09] <_ruben> in my area they're determining the possible userbase for ftth .. so far only 10% is interested, and they need like 40% or so in order to get the investors curious
[09:10] <henkjan> too bad for you
[09:10] <_ruben> kinda lame for a city that calls itself "the ict city" (zoetermeer)
[10:42] <ftherese> how do I search the entire /etc directory to find a particular setting?
[10:43] <ftherese> for example, a proxy server continues to get set system wide, and I don't know exactally where to disable it
[10:44] <_ruben> grep -r somestring /etc/*
[10:44] <_ruben> might wanna sudo do that
[10:46] <ftherese> thank you ruben
[10:50] <ftherese> how do you go about unsetting stuff in the gconf xml tree?
[11:04] <ghostlines> hi all
[11:20] <heath|otg> I need dovecot 1.2 for hardy, is there a good guide for how to build debs from source?
[11:20] <dayo> where can i get a list of universities and colleges that use linux/ubuntu?
[12:01] <_ruben> heath|otg: i'd use the dovecot 1.2 packages from debian (testing or unstable) and rebuild them for ubuntu
[12:53] <heath|work> _ruben, what do you mean rebuild for ubuntu
[12:55] <zul> morning, afternoon for you  danes
[12:58] <heath|work> morning
[12:59] <soren> zul: o/
[13:00] <heath|work> Any way to build dovecot 1.2 for hardy?
[13:20] <smoser> soren, i assume you must have looked at that build failure on nectarine ? there is a 20090916 and 20090916.2.
[13:20] <smoser> had you ?
[13:21] <soren> I'm working on it right now.
[13:21] <soren> The first problem was that your patch from yesterday wasn't python 2.5 friendly. I did not catch this :(
[13:21] <soren> Now it's just hanging during package install. I'm trying to work out why that might be.
[13:24] <soren> ...and now I can't log into nectarine.
[13:24] <soren> smoser: Can you?
[13:25] <smoser> i'm in on nectarine now
[13:25] <smoser> but i have been all night
[13:25] <smoser> so i wont log out
[13:25] <soren> Oh.
[13:26] <smoser> sorry about the python 2.5... didn't know. when i saw locally there i didn't understand how my tests could have worked. the 2.5/2.6 makes sense.
[13:26] <soren> smoser: Your ssh connection there is responsive?
[13:26] <soren> smoser: No, it won't be, because it was just bounced. Never mind :(
[13:26] <smoser> not now. it was 3 minutes ago
[13:27] <soren> I'm back in.
[13:27] <soren> Ng: Thanks.
[13:27] <smoser> and now that evil peer reset my connection :)
[13:27] <soren> I knew a guy called Peer once, actually.
[13:27] <soren> Way before I saw that error for the first time, though.
[13:27] <soren> Like... '93-ish.
[13:28] <ghostlines> hi all, it shouldn't be a problem switching a between a amd motherboard and cpu with an intel motherboard and cpu right?
[13:28] <soren> ghostlines: For Ubuntu? No.
[13:28] <soren> Other than that? No clue.
[13:28] <ghostlines> or during installation special configuration are done for the specific setup?
[13:29] <ghostlines> no problems for ubuntu/linux huh, how are you so sure
[13:29] <ghostlines> tried it already ?
[13:32] <soren> It's just the sort of thing I know.
[13:33] <soren> Hey, you asked. I answered.
[13:33] <a_ok2> i want to connect to an iSCSI target what do i need?
[13:33] <soren> a_ok2: open-iscsi.
[13:33] <a_ok2> ty
[13:33] <ghostlines> soren, no problem just checking
[13:34] <garymc> im trying to enable AllowOveride=All so i can put a password in my website. Anyone help me do this?
[13:35] <soren> garymc: What's the problem?
[13:36] <garymc> i want to put a username and password on my server web site
[13:36] <soren> Yes...
[13:36] <garymc> using .htaccess and .htpasswd
[13:36] <garymc> i created thos files put them in the web folder but it doesnt work
[13:36] <garymc> I read that i gotta put "AllowOverride All" somewhere?
[13:36] <soren> Don't put your .htpasswd in your web folder.
[13:37] <garymc> i only got /var/www/webfiles
[13:37] <soren> "AllowOverride  AuthConfig" will do.
[13:37] <garymc> i only got /var/www/webfiles.htm
[13:37] <garymc> where do i put that?
[13:37] <soren> and it belongs in your apache configuration for the given virtualhost.
[13:37] <garymc> in the htaccess?
[13:37] <soren> No.
[13:37] <soren> It defines what you can do from .htaccess.
[13:38] <soren> If you could change it from .htaccess it'd be pointless :)
[13:38] <garymc> ok where do i put the allowoverride?
[13:38] <soren> 12:37:33 < soren> and it belongs in your apache configuration for the given virtualhost.
[13:39] <garymc> thats my problem im a newbie and not sure where that is
[13:39] <soren> Where are these files?
[13:39] <soren> What's your webroot?
[13:39] <garymc> my web files? /var/www/
[13:41] <zul> soren: was Peer danish?
[13:42] <garymc> soren : I put web pages in this folder /var/www/ if thats what you mean
[13:42] <smoser> garymc, http config files should be under /etc/apache2. but my guess is that soren was going to give you a stanza here in a minute
[13:42] <garymc> ok yeah i got a /etc/apache2 aswell
[13:43] <smoser> for me, there is a file /etc/apache2/sites-available/default that has conf for that dir.
[13:43] <smoser> :q
[13:44] <garymc> i have that folder sites enabled with one file in there. 000-default
[13:44] <garymc> i found it
[13:44] <garymc> nice one smoser
[13:45] <smoser> soren, i think that libc6-xen being added to the package list is causing the hang
[13:46] <garymc> good stuff it works now
[13:46] <smoser> after ctrl-c'ing it, the process that is stopping the unmount is '/sbin/getty 38400 xvc0'
[13:46] <soren> zul: He was, yes.
[13:47] <soren> smoser: could be. Let me try adding that locally and see if that makes it equally unhappy.
[13:48]  * soren takes a quick break
[13:50] <smoser> soren 2 things
[13:50] <smoser> a.) that process definitely gets started in the jail, and detached, and is blocking the unmount on failure
[13:50] <smoser>   granted i did ctrl-c the vmbuilder process though
[13:51] <smoser> b.) vmbuilder/VMBuilder/plugins/ubuntu/hardy.py installs libc6-xen in a different way...
[13:51] <smoser>  self.run_in_target('apt-get' ,'--force-yes', '-y', 'install', 'libc6-xen')
[13:51] <smoser> but  my assessment was "it shouldn't need to do that, it should just work" and since i couldn't test it...
[14:00] <smoser> ugh.
[14:00] <smoser> soren, no nectarine has no /dev/loop* devices
[14:01] <garymc> smoser : how do i change the output folde of my web files from /var/www/ to /var/www/html/?
[14:02] <smoser> garymc, probably that same file
[14:02] <garymc> yeah im trying that but its giving me errors in the browser now
[14:02] <garymc> 500 internal server error
[14:06] <garymc> anyone else know how i change this?
[14:07] <Pici> garymc: What does your apache log file say about the errors?
[14:08] <smoser> soren, well, i "fixed" hat wit 'udevadm trigger' now devices are back at least
[14:09] <garymc> hang on ill do it again Pici
[14:10] <garymc> it says all sorts of stuff
[14:11] <garymc> ok its working now sort of?
[14:12] <soren> smoser: Sure it does?
[14:12] <soren> smoser: Oh.
[14:13]  * ttx isotests and is amazed how fast the server boots now.
[14:24] <garymc> how does adding a domain name to my web server work? Do i just point the domain at my ip?
[14:25] <garymc> and how would i define if i had differnt .com addresses and more than one website hosted?
[14:35] <SockPant1> hi all
[14:36] <SockPant1> i seem to have set a wrong password when i was installing ubuntu on one pc, how can i boot into SU mode and reset it?
[14:38] <heath|work> SockPant1, just hit escape when loading Grub pops up and choose the recovery mode options
[14:38] <KurtKraut> SockPant1, http://burnz.wordpress.com/2008/09/09/how-to-reset-ubuntu-root-password/
[14:39] <heath|work> garymc, apache virtual hosting
[14:40] <garymc> ok google it and read up on it i will
[14:40] <heath|work> garymc, go to support.ubuntu.com and look at the server manuals. there are probably how to's in there
[14:40] <SockPant1> how can i list users?
[14:41] <smoser> garymc, i am not familiar with apache in many years, but it would appear that the way the ubuntu packages lay things out, you probalby want something in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-my-new-site
[14:41] <a_ok> soren: tried open-iscsi, is there something also something with decent documentation?
[14:41] <KurtKraut> garymc, if you're not experienced in Apache, I'd recommend you trying lighttpd. It is faster and easier to configure.
[14:41] <garymc> ok thanks
[14:42] <heath|work> awsome: http://tomasz.sterna.tv/2009/07/dovecot-1-2-0-for-ubuntu-hardy/
[14:42] <heath|work> s/awsome/awesome/
[14:43] <SockPant1> i forgot what i set for a non-root user :S how can i see which users there are?
[14:44] <KurtKraut> SockPant1, cat /etc/passwd | cut -d":" -f 1
[14:45] <garymc> how do i chown a user to a directory and all of its contents?
[14:45] <alab> Are there any options for server management gui beside ebox on ubuntu 9.04?
[14:45] <garymc> i did "sudo chown gary:gary /var/www/html/"   but all contents have padlocks on them
[14:45] <SockPant1> ah got it
[14:46] <SockPant1> now, is it easy to change the hostname of the server? or would i have to change it in 1000 places
[14:46] <heath|work> sudo chown -Rv gary:gary /var/www/html/
[14:46] <heath|work> garymc, ^^
[14:46] <garymc> thanks heath|work
[14:46] <heath|work> SockPant1, 2 places
[14:46] <SockPant1> heath|work: that's doable
[14:46] <heath|work> /etc/hosts, /etc/hostname
[14:47] <heath|work> then /etc/init.d/hostname.sh
[14:47] <heath|work> all sudo of course
[14:48] <atomic_1> anyone using ksplice on ubuntu server 8.04 ?
[14:49] <SockPant1> alright that worked
[14:49] <heath|work> SockPant1, check it out with hostname and hostname -f
[14:49] <heath|work> the -f should show the fqdn
[14:50] <SockPant1> i'm using 8.04 LTS because it's pretty old hardware, how do i make sure everything is as up to date as possible?
[14:50] <heath|work> you mean packages?
[14:50] <SockPant1> yeah, i suppose, what else?
[14:51] <heath|work> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:51] <SockPant1> i mean, to the extent that it would still work and not increase system requirements by a significant amount
[14:51] <SockPant1> what does dist-upgrade do?
[14:51] <heath|work> grabs the new kernels
[14:52] <SockPant1> but i would still be on ubuntu 8.04?
[14:52] <heath|work> yes
[14:52] <SockPant1> ok
[14:52] <SockPant1> how about stuff like apache
[14:52] <heath|work> the above command updates all packages
[14:53] <SockPant1> alright :)
[14:56] <heath|work> Anyone using dovecot 1.2 ?
[14:57] <heath|work> on hardy
[15:06] <orudie> is anyone interested in system admin job in NJ ?
[15:07] <jgjones> NJ?
[15:07] <orudie> yeah NJ
[15:07] <jgjones> New Jersey?
[15:07] <orudie> yes yes
[15:07] <jgjones> (I'm from UK myself hence the question)
[15:07] <Nafallo> ah. not New Jork
[15:08] <jgjones> I'm looking for a job, but I think the work trip is a tad too far to NJ :)
[15:09] <orudie> heh
[15:09] <heath|work> orudie, how about remote?
[15:10] <orudie> no remote sorry
[15:10] <heath|work> :(
[15:17] <JohnD23> where in NJ?
[15:18] <orudie> JohnD23-> the recruiter didnt tell me, i live in NY so I said its too far for me , she said if i know someone then let her know
[15:36] <jcastro> kirkland: dunno if you saw this yet: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_910_encryption&num=1
[15:40] <leaf-sheep> Oh boy. Have I got a question for you! If I apt-mirror a repo, is it possible to create a hybrid merge of (private lan repo) and (public ubuntu repo) so the packages will first check private lan, then public ubuntu repo for packages?
[15:41] <leaf-sheep> Somewhere in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:45] <_ruben> specify both repos in that file .. for each package apt will check which repo holds the most recent version and use that one
[15:45] <clusty> how can I disable cpu throtelling and set to max freq?
[15:48] <kirkland> jcastro: hadn't see it
[15:48] <kirkland> jcastro: thanks
[15:50] <KurtKraut> clusty, are you sure you want that? It will probably just increase your energy consumption without having an improvement on performance.
[15:50] <clusty> KurtKraut, need to compile ATLAS
[15:51] <ScottK> It still won't be any faster.
[15:51] <clusty> ATLAS gives bad results when throtelling is enabled
[15:51] <clusty> pfff
[15:51] <clusty> i know
[15:51] <clusty> ATLAS does timings on different params
[15:51] <clusty> throtelling interferes
[15:52] <clusty> is the maxperformance the governor
[15:52] <clusty> ?
[15:52] <clusty> cause it does not work
[15:52] <clusty> but ondemand does
[15:53] <clusty> performance is the name
[16:03] <erichammond> jjohansen, smoser: EC2 kernel meeting?
[16:06] <smoser> i'm here... i just pinged jjohansen separately, and no response yet, though
[16:06] <erichammond> I think I'm an hour early.
[16:06] <zul> he was up pretty late last night
[16:16] <jjohansen> erichammond: yeah there will be a meeting, in about 45 min
[16:32] <zul> smoser: you might be hitting the alpha breakage in your image
[16:33] <smoser> zul, no
[16:33] <smoser> soren figured it out.
[16:33] <zul> oh what was it?
[16:33] <SockPant1> this is probably a very nooby question but ive never done this before..
[16:34] <SockPant1> how can i configure a static IP on eth0?
[16:34] <SockPant1> on the cli
[16:35] <heath|work> SockPant1, best thing to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[16:35] <heath|work> item 4 in your case
[16:37] <heath|work> Does anyone happen to know if managesieve support was compiled into dovecot for Hardy?
[16:38] <soren> zul: You'll see :)
[16:38] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/vmbuilder/smallest-patch-ever
[16:38] <ttx> soren: if you plan another round of eucalyptus updates before alpha6, please consider fixing bug 430758
[16:38] <soren> It's a 4 bit patch.
[16:38] <smoser> ttx, so should i start looking at filing a MIR for euca2ools ?
[16:39] <ttx> soren:  the right fix is to rewrite those initscripts completely, but I guess some bandaid is better than nothing
[16:39] <soren> ttx: You're core-dev, aren't you?
[16:40] <soren> You are! pfffft... Then do it yourself.
[16:40] <smoser> do others here agree that euca2ools really needs to be in main ?  the UEC really does depend on it, although (because he just wanted to argue) ttx argues that Eucalyptus does not strictly depend on euca2ools
[16:40] <ttx> soren: I am ;) Just wanting not to collide with any other update you might have planned :P
[16:40] <soren> smoser: I absolutely agree.
[16:40] <soren> ttx: Oh, we do it all in bzr.
[16:40] <zul> smoser:yes
[16:40] <soren> ttx: And the way we do it makes it really easy to have multiple people working on it at the same time.
[16:41] <smoser> ok, given that we need MIR for euca2ools for UEC, i am going to suggest replacement of ec2-ami-tools with euca2ools rather than removal of them from ec2-images.
[16:41] <soren> ttx: If you have 5 minutes, I'd love to help you set it up.
[16:41] <ttx> soren: I have, but I don't want to waste your precious alpha6-generation time
[16:41]  * smoser doesn't know that bzr qualifies as "really easy to have multiple people working on it"
[16:41] <soren> ttx: Oh, I'm waiting for a build to finish anyway.
[16:41]  * ttx smacks smoser on the head
[16:41] <ttx> soren: ok, go
[16:41] <SockPant1> hm
[16:42] <SockPant1> it doesn't work.
[16:42] <soren> ttx: Alright, create a suitable basedir for this. I use $HOME/src/Eucalyptus
[16:42] <soren> ttx: In there, do "apt-get source eucalyptus".
[16:42] <SockPant1> i've edited /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf, ping 10.0.0.1 gives 'connect: Network is unreachable'
[16:42] <soren> ttx: To get the tarball.
[16:42] <soren> ttx: Create a file called $HOME/.devscripts
[16:42] <soren> put these two lines in there:
[16:42] <soren> DEBCHANGE_RELEASE_HEURISTIC=changelog
[16:42] <soren> DEBCHANGE_MULTIMAINT_MERGE=yes
[16:43] <mathiaz> soren: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathiaz/eucalyptus/image-store-proxy-recommends/+merge/11819
[16:43] <heath|work> SockPant1, did you restart networking?
[16:43] <mathiaz> soren: ^^ did you get a chance to look at the image-store-proxy integration?
[16:43] <ttx> soren: done
[16:43] <mathiaz> soren: which is rather simple - -cloud recommends image-store-proxy
[16:43] <SockPant1> heath|work: i was lazy and restarted the entire box
[16:44] <SockPant1> ifconfig -a doesn't list an ip for eth0 eihter
[16:44] <soren> ttx: Sorry, mathiaz disturbed me :)
[16:44] <heath|work> SockPant1, pastebin your /etc/network file
[16:45] <soren> ttx: Ok, now in that basedir you created, you do: bzr co lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/eucalyptus/ubuntu
[16:45] <SockPant1> heath|work: difficult. i'll type it out
[16:46] <kirkland> jcastro: he sure picked the worst platform to run these benchmarks on
[16:46] <kirkland> jcastro: that's really disappointing
[16:46] <soren> ttx: That will create an "ubuntu" directory. Every time you change something, you use dch to document the change ("dch 'Added a dependency on foo'") and debcommit to commit (and push, since it's a checkout)
[16:46] <heath|work> brb
[16:46] <ttx> ok
[16:46] <SockPant1> heath|work: http://sockpants.pastebay.org/54772
[16:47] <smoser> erichammond, i just sent a mail to ubuntu-ec2@lists.ubuntu.com regarding ec2-ami-tools in ec2 images that i would like your thoguths on
[16:47] <jcastro> kirkland: he's been keen in the past on getting feedback on his methods.
[16:47] <soren> ttx: When someone wants to make a new upload, they "dch --release", do whatever is needed to save the changelog (which gets opened in $EDITOR), and do a "debcommit --release".
[16:47] <kirkland> jcastro: postgres, on a mini9, in an encrypted home directory?  seriously?
[16:47] <soren> ttx: If anyone else should happen to have done the same, bzr will make a fuss.
[16:50] <SockPant1> btw, this is ubuntu 8.04, i don't expect theres any difference in this case thought
[16:51] <SockPant1> oh screw me i forgot 'auto eth0'
[16:53] <SockPant1> ok
[16:53] <SockPant1> ping works now, but it doesn't get any replies
[16:54] <acalvo> hi
[16:54] <SockPant1> probably a problem with my firewall
[16:54] <acalvo> anyone knows the differences between rsync and rsyncd? maybe the final d is for daemon?
[16:54] <nxvl> i think i just hited a bug, using gnome-terminal or terminator when i have two files with a space on it autocompletion doesn't work (as in "file 1 foo" and "file 2 foo" they won't complete with "file \ 1<tab>")
[16:55] <nxvl> should i report the bug against bash-completion?
[16:55] <nxvl> cjwatson: ^^
[16:55] <cjwatson> surely that ought to be "file\ 1<tab">?
[16:55] <cjwatson> err
[16:55] <cjwatson> "file\ 1<tab>"
[16:56] <nxvl> i just tested on the system terminal (<Cntrl><Alt><F1>) and it's present aswell
[16:56] <cjwatson> but yes, it works fine without bash_completion and bash_completion breaks it
[16:56] <cjwatson> it wouldn't be terminal-specific
[16:57] <cjwatson> yes, file a bug on bash-completion
[16:57] <nxvl> ok, thank you!
[16:57] <Pici> nxvl: Are you using double quotes and backslash escaping??
[16:57] <kirkland> soren: cjwatson: what writes the /etc/network/interfaces file in on the node during installation?  there's a bug in there
[16:57] <kirkland> bridge_ports has no parameter (should be eth0 for me)
[16:57] <kirkland> and thus, networking is broken on the node on first boot
[16:57] <nxvl> Pici: nope, just using the quotes here to mark the start and end of the filename
[16:57] <Pici> nxvl: Okay, just checking ;)
[16:58] <cjwatson> kirkland: eucalyptus-udeb
[16:58] <kirkland> cjwatson: thanks, i'll have a look there
[16:58] <cjwatson> debian/eucalyptus-udeb.finish-install, specifically
[16:58] <kirkland> i'll file a bug in the mean time
[16:58] <cjwatson> kirkland: attach /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat, please
[16:58] <nxvl> ugh
[16:58] <kirkland> cjwatson: ack
[16:59] <nxvl> why https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash-completion/+filebug redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[16:59] <cjwatson> yes, it's very annoying
[16:59] <cjwatson> either use 'ubuntu-bug bash-completion'
[16:59] <cjwatson> or use +filebug?no-redirect
[16:59] <ScottK> nxvl: There was mail to devel-discuss yesterday explaining it.
[16:59] <jjohansen> ----- Alright time for the EC2 kernel status meeting ----
[16:59] <nxvl> ScottK: ugh, well, i found how to avoid the redirection :D
[17:00] <ScottK> Just don't file bugs is another option.
[17:00] <jjohansen> smoser, erichammond: ready?
[17:00] <rtg> smoser, jjohansen - any changes or progress since yesterday.
[17:00] <rtg> ?
[17:00] <nxvl> ScottK: not an option for me, filing bugs is fun :D
[17:00] <erichammond> o/
[17:00] <jjohansen> rtg: a little
[17:01] <cjwatson> ScottK: I can't see it on devel-discuss. Am I missing something?
[17:01] <jjohansen> smoser had an image lock up
[17:01] <ScottK> cjwatson: Maybe I mis-remember.  Let me look.
[17:01] <rtg> smoser, 32 or 64 bit?
[17:01] <smoser> 32
[17:01] <jjohansen> we need to try and duplicate, there is really nothing useful in the logs
[17:01] <SockPant1> can i see whether a network interface is 10
[17:01] <smoser> the thing was mostly idle and had been up for close to 2 days.
[17:02] <SockPant1> *10-BASE-T or 100-BASE-TX
[17:02] <rtg> smoser, how could you tell it was a lockup? no net access?
[17:02] <jmarsden> cjwatson: It was on ubuntu-devel-announce from Brian Murray
[17:02] <smoser> my open ssh connection went dead. no ping, no new ssh connections.
[17:02] <smoser> yeah, not much science involved... i waited a few minutes, it didn't come back, i rebooted, it was back.
[17:03] <rtg> smoser, any possibility that Amazon did something to it?
[17:03] <smoser> there is obviously the possibility of ill timed temporary network issues
[17:03] <erichammond> smoser: Was the problem experienced in the last few hours?
[17:03] <smoser> yeah
[17:03] <ScottK> cjwatson: It was the ubuntu-motu list.  Oddly, I see replies to the mail, but not the actual mail in the list archive: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2009-September/006141.html
[17:03] <erichammond> http://ec2status.notlong.com
[17:04] <erichammond> There were temporary, isolated network issues
[17:04] <erichammond> but the reboot timing seems suspect
[17:04] <rtg> smoser, I _hope_ thats what it was.
[17:04] <smoser> well..
[17:05] <jjohansen> well it is the first time we have seen it
[17:05] <smoser> uptime shows "up  1:01"
[17:05] <smoser> i've not rebooted it sense, so that puts my issue smack dab in between
[17:05] <smoser> 07:41:11 AM PDT We are investigating connectivity issues in US-EAST-1.
[17:05] <smoser> 08:18:25 AM PDT We have identified a problematic
[17:05] <smoser> i'll put this information in the bug. thank you mr hammond
[17:06] <rtg> smoser, erichammond: I'm still working on linux-meta-ec2, I kind of got distracted yesterday. jjohansen has been checking out some config changes.
[17:06] <jjohansen> we should still make sure to launch some images and keep them up
[17:06] <jjohansen> right
[17:06] <jjohansen> gone through testing of EC2 kernels with a more virtual like config and i386 has problems, but 64 bit boots
[17:06] <erichammond> I just switched an automated process of mine to the Karmic AMI to test it out. It was pingable, but port 22 never came up.  At first glance the console output seems odd, ending at "udev: starting version 146"
[17:06] <nxvl> cjwatson: Bug #430817, can you please Confirm it, so it gets more attention?
[17:07] <jjohansen> erichammond: which ami
[17:07] <rtg> erichammond, are we getting smacked by archive inconsistencies? it was a mess yesterday.
[17:07] <erichammond> ami-a40fefcd - I'm trying to reproduce
[17:08] <rtg> smoser, I suggest you not update userspace wholesale until slangasek declares a stable A6.
[17:09] <erichammond> rtg: What's an archive inconsistency?  Ubuntu archive mirrors?
[17:09] <slangasek> update what wholesale?
[17:10] <slangasek> erichammond: packages in the archive not installable
[17:10] <slangasek> minor things like ubuntu-minimal
[17:10] <rtg> slangasek, EC2 AMI
[17:10] <slangasek> rtg: er, certainly not, we need test AMIs made available *before* Alpha 6 can be released
[17:10] <slangasek> for inclusion in the alpha
[17:11] <erichammond> rtg: I don't see how archives could affect an instance at startup or running when it's not doing an upgrade or install.
[17:11] <rtg> slangasek, I guess it depends on what we're testing. I've been focused on kernels.
[17:11] <jjohansen> erichammond: the ami could have been built from an inconsistent archive
[17:11] <smoser> erichammond, http://paste.ubuntu.com/272180/ is a log of mine, that was reachable... the udev messages should be real close to when network pops up.
[17:12] <slangasek> jjohansen: it probably wouldn't have built at all in the case of an inconsistent archive.  But maybe it would fail to boot in interesting ways :)
[17:12] <rtg> slangasek, kind of like my server this morning?
[17:12] <rtg> woudln't boot
[17:12] <cjwatson> nxvl: in reality it makes no difference, so I'm not going to spend time on paperwork
[17:13] <smoser> little things like not booting should be ignored
[17:13] <cjwatson> rtg: separate /usr or /var?
[17:13] <slangasek> rtg: if you dist-upgraded it yesterday, definitely possible.  Do you have that sorted yet?
[17:13] <rtg> seperate /home, raid0
[17:13] <rtg> slangasek, just reinstalled / with an older CD
[17:13] <smoser> but despite that, today, I hope to get an ec2 built and upto ec2. soren has debugged some issues we were having with vmbuilder and i think we can at least get one built at the moment.
[17:14] <nxvl> cjwatson: heh, ok :D
[17:14] <rtg> smoser, jjohansen: ok, anything else?
[17:15] <jjohansen> not from me
[17:15] <slangasek> rtg: ah; doesn't sound like any of the other bugs I know about, would be good to have some debugging info so that alpha6 isn't broken for that case
[17:15] <erichammond> investigating... will respond in a moment
[17:15] <rtg> slangasek, I can likely reproduce it.
[17:16] <rtg> slangasek, how do I enable boot script debug?
[17:16] <slangasek> um... ask Keybuk
[17:16] <slangasek> the debugging I've been doing has all been interactive
[17:18] <rtg> slangasek, ok, I'll update and see if I can repro.
[17:18] <erichammond> smoser: Thanks for the console output.  Mine seems similar at first glance.  I was able to reproduce port 22 not responding on boot.  I will investigate more and submit a bug if I can figure things out.
[17:19] <smoser> port 22 doesnt respond, but ping does ?
[17:19] <smoser> oh. never mind. ping never does.
[17:19] <jjohansen> erichammond: are you specifying user data
[17:19] <erichammond> smoser: Correct: ping works.  Without any evidence I am going to start by suspecting something to user data
[17:19] <erichammond> jjohansen: Is user-data broken?
[17:20] <smoser> the ami that erichammond said he was using is the alpha5.1, which has function when no user-data
[17:20] <erichammond> ah
[17:20] <smoser> the alpha5 hung if no user data was passed.
[17:20] <jjohansen> smoser: ah, I haven't tested with that one yet
[17:20] <erichammond> no, the other way around
[17:20] <erichammond> I'm getting problems with the instance that gets user-data.  I don't know if this is the entire cause, I'll investigate later.
[17:21] <erichammond> I didn't quite follow some of the comments.  Is a new karmic AMI or AKI going to be published before Alpha6?
[17:22] <erichammond> (I think it's a great idea to know that what is going to be built will work, instead of having to followup with more fixes)
[17:23] <smoser> i will put todays nightly up to ec2 for my own testing.. and i can give others access to it, but i wont send mail about it. just to see if there are issues that would prevent alpha6 from arriving tomorrow.
[17:23] <erichammond> cool
[17:23] <smoser> there will not be a new aki
[17:24] <erichammond> smoser: I would normally ask for access, but doubt I'll have time to test today.
[17:24] <erichammond> unless I figure out this startup bug and we need to verify a fix
[17:25] <smoser> erichammond, the only aki change is that i uploaded the current karmic kernels to canonical-cloud-us and canonical-cloud-eu buckets
[17:25] <smoser> (rather than being in karmic-kernel-zul)
[17:26] <erichammond> smoser: good idea
[17:26] <smoser> the new aki/ari are:
[17:26] <smoser> current/us-east-1/i386/karmic   aki-841efeed ari-9a1efef3
[17:26] <smoser> current/us-east-1/x86_64/karmic aki-9c1efef5 ari-901efef9
[17:26] <smoser> current/eu-west-1/i386/karmic   aki-4879523c ari-4a79523e
[17:26] <smoser> current/eu-west-1/x86_64/karmic aki-34795240 ari-36795242
[17:27] <smoser> and, erichammond i *really* want to get to a consistent naming format, so your thoughts on that mail i sent would be appreciated (but i recognize you being busy).
[17:27] <smoser> i have to work on a suggestion for kernel naming format, though
[17:28] <erichammond> smoser: It's in my todo queue, but reminding me is fine :)
[17:29] <jjohansen> anything else? or can we adjourn
[17:30] <erichammond> I'm good.  (Board meeting coming up)
[17:30] <jjohansen> alright lets adjourn, thanks everyone
[17:34] <rtg> later
[17:36] <Vashta_Nerada> On my private Ip addressed Lan, I'm trying to get my xp to connect to and view my ubuntu via NX, result:"Connection refused".....  I then try to make an ssh connection using putty, result "Putty fatal error, network error, connection refused".... I believe i have setup ssh correctly on the ubuntu, although I don't know for sure, I've looked into it and I think it's a "key" issue, but I can't...
[17:36] <Vashta_Nerada> ...be sure, any ideas?
[17:41] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: silly question: do you have openssh-server installed and configured in your linux box
[17:41] <hjmf> ?
[17:41] <Vashta_Nerada> not a silly question at all
[17:41] <Vashta_Nerada> i believe i do
[17:41] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: if so, can you nmap your linux box to see if your ssh port is open?
[17:42] <Vashta_Nerada> possibly with your help
[17:42] <Vashta_Nerada> hold on, i'm telnetting in
[17:42] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: OMG! telnet! :-( disable it ;.)
[17:43] <ghostlines> :p
[17:43] <Vashta_Nerada> eventually!
[17:43] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: do apt-get update && apt-get install openssh-server
[17:43] <Vashta_Nerada> i thought i should nmap
[17:43] <KillMeNow> ummm yea, i only use telnet for troubleshooting network port connects
[17:43] <Vashta_Nerada> i think i did openssh already
[17:43] <KillMeNow> never run a telnet daemon, very bad
[17:44] <hjmf> yep, just to confirm
[17:44] <Vashta_Nerada> why? i'm behind my router
[17:44] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: do you have wifi?
[17:44] <Vashta_Nerada> the ports are blocked
[17:44] <Vashta_Nerada> yeah
[17:44] <hjmf> then disable telnet :-)
[17:44] <KillMeNow> cause everything is sent clear text, including passwords
[17:44] <Vashta_Nerada> ok well
[17:44] <Vashta_Nerada> i guess you have a point
[17:44] <hjmf> sniffing wifi traffic is funny
[17:45] <Vashta_Nerada> no, i see your point
[17:45] <hjmf> telnet is easy to watch
[17:45] <Vashta_Nerada> ok so how do i nmap?
[17:45] <Vashta_Nerada> just type nmap?
[17:46] <Vashta_Nerada> ha
[17:46] <KillMeNow> nmap requires some extra switches
[17:46] <Vashta_Nerada> you're going to kill me
[17:46] <hagedorn> hey, cant resolve dns names with telnet,ssh,w3m etc bunt able to ping host over dns names,... whats wrong ?
[17:46] <Vashta_Nerada> its not installed
[17:46] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: install it and run: nmap your-linux-ip
[17:46] <Vashta_Nerada> will do
[17:46] <hagedorn> http://pastie.org/619016
[17:47] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: you'll have to see the port 22 open
[17:47] <Vashta_Nerada> ya know i know i tried to mess with the port as per instructions of nx
[17:48] <Vashta_Nerada> so i'm pretty sure i have that mess to deal with
[17:48] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: then check the port you defined is open
[17:48] <Vashta_Nerada> but let's make sure of all the ducks
[17:49] <Vashta_Nerada> nmap is installed, do you have a command suggestion?
[17:50] <hjmf> nmap your-linux-server-ip
[17:50] <Vashta_Nerada> sorry you had said that
[17:50] <hjmf> or nmap your-linux-server-ip -p the_port_you_think_should_be_listening_by_ssh
[17:50] <Vashta_Nerada> ummm
[17:51] <Vashta_Nerada> 22 is not open, and the port that i changed ssh to is not open!
[17:51] <hjmf> If you are not sure what did you change I suggest to do
[17:52] <hjmf> apt-get remove --purge openssh-server
[17:52] <hjmf> apt-get remove openssh-server
[17:52] <bdmurray> Is there a difference between the uec-images tag and the ec2-images tag?
[17:52] <hjmf> after that, port 22 should be back
[17:52] <Vashta_Nerada> i remember the port
[17:52] <hjmf> apt-get install openssh-server
[17:52] <hjmf> i meant
[17:52] <Vashta_Nerada> how do i open it
[17:53] <hjmf> editing the /etc/ssh/sshd.conf file
[17:53] <hjmf> and restarting the openssh server
[17:53] <Vashta_Nerada> ok let me see
[17:53] <hjmf> as /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[17:53] <Vashta_Nerada> (thanks for all this btw)
[17:53] <hjmf> K ;-)
[17:54] <mathiaz> kirkland: are you doing some iso testing for alpha6?
[17:56] <bdmurray> smoser: Is there a difference between the uec-images tag and the ec2-images tag?
[17:56] <Vashta_Nerada> vi sshd.conf
[17:56] <Vashta_Nerada> absolutely nothing in it
[17:56] <hjmf> Vashta_Nerada: trust me, do:
[17:57] <hjmf> apt-get remove --purge openssh-server
[17:57] <Vashta_Nerada> lol
[17:57] <hjmf> apt-get install openssh-server
[17:57] <Vashta_Nerada> you got it
[17:57] <smoser> bdmurray, yes.
[17:57] <smoser> ec2-images is restricted to things that affect the images on ec2
[17:57] <Vashta_Nerada> i'll take care of that and come back
[17:57] <smoser> uec would be for things wrong with the images not only on ec2
[17:58] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks hjmf
[17:58] <bdmurray> smoser: could you add them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Tags?
[17:58] <smoser> mainly the difference is kernel
[17:58] <smoser> bdmurray, i can
[17:58] <bdmurray> smoser: great thanks!
[17:59] <Vashta_Nerada> hmmm, i forgot to be sudo when i tried that vi
[17:59] <Vashta_Nerada> forgive my n00bishness
[17:59] <KillMeNow> so anyone know when they are going to push out a new kernel for Ubuntu 9.x where we can disable IPv6?
[17:59] <ink> Does anyone have mod_jk working with tomcat6 and apache in Karmic?  I can't get apache to pass requests off over ajp13
[17:59] <Vashta_Nerada> eh,..... nm .... purging .....
[18:04] <smoser> bdmurray, where do you think those fall ? what category there
[18:05] <bdmurray> smoser: more specific seems like the closest fit, the tags could use a reorg
[18:06] <smoser> ok. i'll put them there.
[18:06] <bdmurray> I could add them to the greasemonkey tagging script too if you'd like
[18:06] <smoser> interesting bug in sudo that i'm seeing on jaunty
[18:06] <clusty> got a small problem about nfs performance. i recently configured homes on new machines on NFS mounts. thing is that write performance stinks. 1 single compile task on some node loads up the hdd to 95+%
[18:07] <clusty> any options i shoul dbe using?
[18:07] <clusty> so far i have: rw,sync,no_subtree_check
[18:09] <Vashta_Nerada> hjmf: you rock
[18:09] <Vashta_Nerada> i'm sshed into it
[18:10] <Vashta_Nerada> now.... how do i disable telnet?  XD
[18:11] <KillMeNow> turn off the daemon and make sure it doesn't start at any run level
[18:11] <Vashta_Nerada> hmmm
[18:11] <Vashta_Nerada> ok, i'll google that stuff
[18:11] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks guys!
[18:12] <smoser> sudo bug on jaunty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272257/
[18:21] <heath|work> Anyone know how I can get the phone number off my internal aircard to get it activated in my laptop through ubuntu?
[18:23] <jbernard_> smoser: only jaunty it looks like, works fine in karmic for me
[18:23] <ahasenack> smoser: what if you run it as "bash /tmp/test.sh"?
[18:25] <smoser> jbernard_, right. same here.
[18:25] <smoser> ahasenack, even stranger
[18:26] <mushroomblue> hosed sshd?
[18:26] <ahasenack> or "sh /tmp/test.sh"
[18:26] <mushroomblue> nevermind.
[18:26] <ahasenack> and yeah, there is that signal bug in udev that was fixed yesterday or so
[18:26] <smoser> $ sudo -i bash /tmp/test.sh
[18:26] <smoser> /bin/bash: /bin/bash: cannot execute binary file
[18:26] <ahasenack> but doesn't seem to apply
[18:26] <ahasenack> smoser: I mean without sudo
[18:27] <smoser> well then it shouldn't get the set -e, and should print out both
[18:27] <smoser> (and does)
[18:27] <ahasenack> smoser: isn't that what sudo -i does?
[18:27] <ahasenack> -i says it will use the user's shell
[18:27] <ahasenack> so I'm thinking the "-e" in your bangline will be ignored. In fact, the whole line
[18:28] <smoser> hm... i gues you're right. so as far as "use shell", thats good behavior, if you want to just get initial login like behavior , its bad.
[18:32] <ahasenack> it has to add a parameter to the shell
[18:32] <ahasenack> better to use "set -e" explicitly in the shell script
[18:54] <MagicFab> Hi all
[18:54] <MagicFab> I've just created an LVM volume
[18:55] <MagicFab> How can I have it mount at boot ? Should I just stick vgchange -ay in an init script ?
[18:58] <KillMeNow> MagicFab:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83813
[18:59] <MagicFab> KillMeNow, that's from 2005 - and I do have a proper entry in fsatb but I still have to activate the LVM manually.
[18:59] <MagicFab> fstab*
[19:02] <KillMeNow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/368551
[19:02] <KillMeNow> looks like there may be a bug
[19:02] <KillMeNow> check that and see if it fits
[19:05] <MagicFab> KillMeNow, geez, can't believe I'm going to confirm that one :(
[19:08] <cjwatson> smoser: indeed, what ahasenack said - I've got into the habit of always using 'set -e' explicitly rather than putting it on the #! line, not least because it means that if you do 'sh -x script' to debug it you don't also change its error handling behaviour!
[19:08] <smoser> for what its worth, karmic's sudo fixes all those issues.
[19:09] <cjwatson> it's a good idea to adjust practices anyway though
[19:16] <smoser> are there guidelines for a main inclusion request ?
[19:33] <ink> is anyone else having problems booting with karmic server 64bit since the updates this week?
[19:33] <ink> can't find network, can't find USB (which makes logging in impossible)
[19:35] <zul> smoser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportTemplate
[19:36] <smoser> yeah, i just saw that. thank you zul
[19:37] <zul> np
[19:45] <soren> mathiaz: We'd like to get a bunch of eucalyptus fixes onto the CD, so we'll respin them. Are you up for another round of iso testing?
[19:46] <mathiaz> soren: sure
[19:46] <soren> Cool.
[20:13] <heath|work> SockPant2, sorry I was afk for a while. Did you get everything sorted out?
[20:47] <superbeef> I'm running 2.6.24-24-server #1 SMP on 8.04LTS 64bit........ When I watch top, I notice that nomatter what load i put on it, the 2nd CPU core stays idle.    Even if I do like make -j4 on some source, the 2nd core is abandoned......    Any idea as to what would cause that?
[21:17] <SockPant> hi
[21:23] <SockPant> how can i list packages that are installed?
[21:23] <SockPant> and how can i search for new packages/
[21:26] <thiagocrepaldi> did anyone try follow https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html to build an openldap server with PAM authentication ? auth-client-confi is modifying nsswitch.conf, only. common-* aren't being updated when auth-client-config si runned
[21:27] <heath|work> SockPant, dpkg -l  lists installed packages
[21:27] <heath|work> apt-cache search  or  aptitude search
[21:28] <kansan> i cannot shut down mysql server on ubuntu hardy server with sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop ... any suggestions on how to make this work?  i also looked log files in /var/log/mysql and didnt see anything.
[21:29] <guntbert> kansan: what happens when you try?
[21:30] <kansan> guntbert,  * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                                                                                                                                                [fail]
[21:31] <guntbert> kansan: I'm following in #ubuntu :-)
[21:31] <kansan> ok ;p
[21:31] <thiagocrepaldi> try cat /var/log/mysql.log or cat /var/log/mysql.err
[21:42] <SockPant> my system time seems to be off by a few years, how can i sync it with the intenet? shouldnt it do so automatically/
[21:45] <guntbert> SockPant: see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[21:56] <smoser> slangasek, at the moment i have
[21:57] <smoser> alpha-6 ec2 amis:
[21:57] <smoser> us-east-1.i386.karmic.ami:    ami-fa658593
[21:57] <smoser> us-east-1.x86_64.karmic.ami:  ami-1a658573
[21:57] <smoser> i've sniffed both of those and am migrating to eu
[22:02] <slangasek> smoser: thanks, posting to the tracker
[22:02] <slangasek> poted
[22:02] <slangasek> posted, rather
[22:06] <smoser> slangasek,
[22:07] <smoser> us-east-1.i386.karmic.ami:    ami-fa658593
[22:07] <smoser> us-east-1.x86_64.karmic.ami:  ami-1a658573
[22:07] <smoser> eu-west-1.i386.karmic.ami:    ami-56785322
[22:07] <smoser> eu-west-1.x86_64.karmic.ami:  ami-50785324
[22:08] <slangasek> smoser: ok, all posted
[22:57] <soren> smoser: Updated the version query thingie.
[23:01] <thiagocrepaldi> how can i authenticate my jaunty thorugh openldap ? i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html but looks like that auth-client-config is not being a good boy
[23:01] <soren> smoser: If I want to make a git tree look the way it did at a particular revision, what do I do?
[23:02] <soren> smoser: "git reset sha"? Or is there more to it?
[23:02] <soren> --hard helps somewhat...
[23:15]  * soren calls it a day
[23:15] <thiagocrepaldi> JAUNTY does not have ldap.conf in slapd package ?
[23:16] <KillMeNow> IIRC it uses the CN
[23:19] <Vashta_Nerada> I previously turned telnet on in my ununtu 9.04, I've searched for documentation for this but can't find any.... can someone help me "turn off the telnet daemon and make sure it doesn't start at any run level"
[23:21] <KillMeNow> to stop the daemon:  /etc/init.d/telnet stop
[23:21] <KillMeNow> you can install chkconfig if you like
[23:21] <Vashta_Nerada> init.d is not there
[23:21] <Vashta_Nerada> ouch sorry
[23:22] <KillMeNow> and then use chkconfig to "list" its currently level
[23:22] <Vashta_Nerada> it is there
[23:25] <Vashta_Nerada> trying /etc/init.d/telnet stop.........no such file or directory
[23:25] <Vashta_Nerada> althought i can get to the directory
[23:25] <Vashta_Nerada> ... something confusing to me....
[23:25] <Vashta_Nerada> it is
[23:26] <Vashta_Nerada> i'm in init.d and i ls
[23:26] <Vashta_Nerada> and don't see telnet
[23:28] <KillMeNow> then there isn't a telnet daemon running
[23:28] <KillMeNow> netstat -nap | grep 23
[23:29] <KillMeNow> are you mixing up Telnet with SSH?
[23:29] <Vashta_Nerada> then how have i telnetted into it almost every day for the past month
[23:29] <Vashta_Nerada> no dude, you guys helped me set up ssh today!
[23:29] <KillMeNow> ok
[23:29] <KillMeNow> well i was in and out all day
[23:30] <Vashta_Nerada> nahh, that's cool
[23:30] <KillMeNow> telnet runs on port 23
[23:30] <Vashta_Nerada> i appreciate the help btw
[23:30] <Vashta_Nerada> ummm, i'm installing chkconfig
[23:30] <Vashta_Nerada> installed
[23:30] <KillMeNow> if port 23 isn't being actively listened on, there is no daemon  unless you bound the daemon to a non statndard port
[23:30] <KillMeNow> chkconfig --list telnet
[23:31] <Vashta_Nerada> well if i did, putty didn't know it and it still worked
[23:31] <KillMeNow> well, if we set up ssh today
[23:32] <KillMeNow> so, do this
[23:32] <KillMeNow> find /etc/init.d/ -name telnetd
[23:33] <Vashta_Nerada> ESTABLISHED 24391/in.telnetd: 1
[23:33] <KillMeNow> ok then you have telnetd
[23:33] <Vashta_Nerada> that's from netstat
[23:33] <KillMeNow> try this:  /etc/init.d/telnetd stop
[23:33] <Vashta_Nerada> ok golly
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> in /etc/init.d# ls t*
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> no such file or directory
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> haven't got a telnet in the init.d
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> if i
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> locate telnet
[23:35] <Vashta_Nerada> i get a bunch of entries
[23:36] <Vashta_Nerada> wanna hear a few?
[23:36] <Vashta_Nerada> or am i just n00bing out on you
[23:36] <KillMeNow> at the moment, i wanna take a nap
[23:36] <KillMeNow> LOL
[23:36] <Vashta_Nerada> lmao
[23:36] <KillMeNow> look for the PID entry
[23:36] <Vashta_Nerada> that's how i felt when i asked you before!!!
[23:36] <Vashta_Nerada> and that's what i did
[23:36] <KillMeNow> there has to be the telnetd daemon running
[23:37] <Vashta_Nerada> dude, i'm gonna try tomorrow
[23:37]  * KillMeNow been burning the candle at both ends for 2 weeks
[23:37] <Vashta_Nerada> i don't know how to look for one
[23:37]  * KillMeNow needs a break
[23:37] <Vashta_Nerada> but this is fuuuuunnn
[23:37] <KillMeNow> ps -ef | grep telnetd
[23:37] <KillMeNow> or ps aux | grep telnetd
[23:37] <KillMeNow> otherwise do a lsof -i tcp:23
[23:38] <Vashta_Nerada> telnetd  24391  0.0  0.1   2064   760 ?        Ss   12:40   0:00 in.telnetd: 192.168.2.4
[23:38] <Vashta_Nerada> among other stuff that might be relevant
[23:39] <Vashta_Nerada> program tenetd can be found in
[23:39] <Vashta_Nerada> inetutils-telnetd
[23:39] <Vashta_Nerada> krb5-telnetd
[23:39] <KillMeNow> are you telnetting in to this box?
[23:40] <Vashta_Nerada> ah, that happened when i accidentally entered telnetd
[23:40] <Vashta_Nerada> oh yeah i'm in
[23:40] <Vashta_Nerada> sshed at the same time
[23:40] <KillMeNow> ok drop the telnet connection
[23:40] <Vashta_Nerada> lol
[23:40] <KillMeNow> only use the ssh
[23:40] <Vashta_Nerada> you hate me now
[23:41] <Vashta_Nerada> ok
[23:41] <Vashta_Nerada> i'm only in with ssh
[23:42] <Vashta_Nerada> sorry, i forgot i wanted to see if i could pull the carpet out from under it
[23:43] <Vashta_Nerada> go take a nap dude
[23:43] <Vashta_Nerada> i'll ask the magic 8-ball again tomorrow
[23:43] <KillMeNow> heh
[23:43] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks!
[23:43] <KillMeNow> ok