| === jtatum`` is now known as jtatum | ||
| ara | davmor2, hello :) | 09:40 |
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| davmor2 | ara: Morning | 09:40 |
| ara | davmor2, do you happen to know when are the alpha 6 images starting to appear in the tracker? | 09:40 |
| davmor2 | ara: now | 09:40 |
| ara | davmor2, ok | 09:40 |
| ara | davmor2, they are there | 09:41 |
| ara | davmor2, I just pressed F5 ;-) | 09:41 |
| davmor2 | ara: only ubuntu desktop for now | 09:41 |
| ara | davmor2, ok | 09:41 |
| * ara takes alt i386 full disk | 09:41 | |
| davmor2 | they are slowly trickling through although there will be a massive respin of al the alternatives | 09:42 |
| davmor2 | ara: ^ | 09:42 |
| ara | then I'll take the live cd ;-) | 09:42 |
| ara | what bug do the alts have? | 09:43 |
| davmor2 | d-i needs a fix | 09:43 |
| davmor2 | ara: I'm assuming that slangasek is leaving the alternates on as a smoketest for us ;) | 09:56 |
| slangasek | yes | 09:56 |
| slangasek | d-i doesn't have any particular bug that I know of, it's just getting synced up with the kernel - it probably installs fine | 09:57 |
| * ara takes ubuntu desktop i386 full disk | 10:29 | |
| davmor2 | ara: did you get live desktop? | 10:45 |
| ara | davmor2, yes, but the installation did not kick off automatically | 10:45 |
| davmor2 | one up on alternate then :( | 10:46 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, what iso's are ready | 10:47 |
| davmor2 | check the tracker, but alternates don't seem to have a gui at the moment | 10:53 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, forgot where tracker is what is url thx | 10:54 |
| davmor2 | iso.qa.ubuntu.com | 10:54 |
| ara | davmor2, no X when finishing the installation | 11:32 |
| ara | davmor2, do we have a bug number? | 11:32 |
| davmor2 | ara: your in console correct? | 11:33 |
| ara | davmor2, my what | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | ara: are you in a terminal? | 11:34 |
| ara | davmor2, yes | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | is so run ps aux | grep dbus | 11:34 |
| davmor2 | if it isn't running the the bug is 430611 | 11:35 |
| davmor2 | then then even | 11:35 |
| ara | ok, it is not running | 11:37 |
| * davmor2 quits testing in favour of waiting for some cd's that work :( | 12:26 | |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:37 | |
| asac | hi all ... someone here could please verify bug 398205 on jaunty? | 12:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 398205 in xulrunner-1.9.1 "Geolocation via WLAN doesn't seem to work" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398205 | 12:52 |
| asac | thx!! | 12:52 |
| asac | there is a fix in jaunty-proposed that needs a sign off before we can roll out latest ffox 3.5 security updates | 12:52 |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| davmor2 | fader_: I've been waiting for you | 13:04 |
| davmor2 | fader_: Morning everything is broken | 13:04 |
| davmor2 | the end fullstop | 13:05 |
| fader_ | davmor2: You know, I'm starting to hear 'good morning' when you say that :( | 13:05 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Ugh, would this be bug 430611? | 13:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430611 in dbus "dbus fails to start on clean boot using upstart job" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430611 | 13:06 |
| davmor2 | fader_: yeap | 13:32 |
| davmor2 | happens on live and alternate too yay | 13:32 |
| fader_ | Meh, who needs dbus anyway? | 13:33 |
| davmor2 | fader_: apparently the gui | 13:34 |
| fader_ | Heh | 13:34 |
| fader_ | I feel like I should yell at you kids to get off my lawn and tell stories of when I had a stack of floppy disks and took a whole weekend just to get Slackware to give me a shell prompt with no GUI, and I was happy | 13:35 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I wasn't using Linux back then but I can tell you all about the zx81 where you had to type in basic to get and application if that counts :P | 13:37 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Oh yeah. I started life on a TRS-80 with the 16k(!) RAM expansion. | 13:38 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Is it a safe assumption that the dbus bug is hitting everything? I can (finally) test some images if there are any that might work. | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | everything | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | fader_: apart from live desktop | 13:46 |
| fader_ | :( | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | fader_: which is of course how everyone is communicating to fix the dbus issue ;) | 13:47 |
| fader_ | -server doesn't use dbus at all though, does it? | 13:47 |
| fader_ | Heh | 13:47 |
| davmor2 | fader_: try it you could be right :) | 13:48 |
| davmor2 | but then there is a d-i update to be put in before a6 so they'll need re-spining too soon | 13:49 |
| fader_ | Gah | 13:49 |
| * fader_ stops his download. | 13:50 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: on a plus side pitti is now on the case with my ati bug from a couple of weeks ago :) | 13:50 |
| davmor2 | but only cause it has happen to him too :) | 13:50 |
| fader_ | Heh, dragging out the big guns | 13:50 |
| fader_ | Ahhh, I see. Here I thought maybe you had some dirt on him or something. | 13:50 |
| davmor2 | it turns out its compiz which is why everything else installs fine :) | 13:51 |
| davmor2 | fader_: want to have a laugh download http://www.davmor2.co.uk/speed.avi | 13:56 |
| davmor2 | tiz quite amuzing seeing a clock go that fast :) | 13:57 |
| davmor2 | a bit of a concern aswell | 13:57 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Nice! You must have a really fast processor. | 13:59 |
| fader_ | I bet it can finish an infinite loop in less than a minute! | 13:59 |
| davmor2 | :) | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | one for the kernel team me thinks | 14:00 |
| davmor2 | it's only happen since yesterday was fine last week | 14:00 |
| ara | davmor2, what bug is causing the new update to the debian installer? do you happen to know it? | 14:07 |
| davmor2 | not a bug. The kernel has been updated and d-i needs to match it. | 14:08 |
| ara | davmor2, ok, thanks | 14:08 |
| davmor2 | things will work without it but if there is likely to be an re-spin any time soon it just seems pointless. | 14:09 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Do you know if there is definitely going to be a respin before A6 for -server? | 14:11 |
| davmor2 | fader_: across the board (14:14:49) cjwatson: there is no conceivable hope of the current images being alpha 6 | 14:16 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Gotcha. Thanks. | 14:16 |
| fader_ | It's gonna be a long evening I think. :) | 14:16 |
| davmor2 | tomorrow will be fun though right | 14:17 |
| fader_ | Heheh | 14:20 |
| fader_ | Tomorrow I get to test bundles of hardware with the real A6 image, so I'll get to do it all over again :) | 14:20 |
| === marjomercado is now known as marjo | ||
| ara | This evening looks promising... | 14:23 |
| davmor2 | ara: you must be looking out the window and not at your computer ;) | 14:24 |
| ara | davmor2, I should, if I want to stay sane | 14:25 |
| fader_ | Heh | 14:25 |
| davmor2 | ara: your on the testing team for Ubuntu that means you have already forsaken your sanity. It's a pre-requisite :) | 14:29 |
| fader_ | davmor2: What makes this really weird is that ara and I don't even exist -- you've been testing for so long that you've gone way around the bend and imagined us. | 14:32 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I don't believe you and I can't lose the argument if I imagine you as I control what you say HA! | 14:34 |
| fader_ | :P | 14:34 |
| fader_ | Just got a notification from the ISO tracker that mythbuntu is up and ready... might as well see if it boots :) | 15:19 |
| davmor2 | deja vu | 15:20 |
| jtatum | ara: is there a testing meeting today? didn't see an email on the list | 15:54 |
| ara | jtatum, well, there should be, but nobody added topics to the agenda | 15:55 |
| ara | jtatum, if you don't need to discuss anything, maybe we can skip this one | 15:56 |
| ara | jtatum, do you think that biweekly is better? | 15:56 |
| jtatum | ara: ok :) yes, things seem quiet this past week. skipping sounds fine with me. | 15:56 |
| jtatum | ara: hmm... perhaps it would? Do you think it would improve attendance or just make the agenda more substantial? | 15:57 |
| ara | jtatum, it might be both... or none, we have always to test things ;-) | 15:57 |
| ara | jtatum, I will send an email to the list about it (and announcing the lack of meeting this week) | 15:58 |
| jtatum | ara: great :) thank you | 15:58 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: morning I found an issue yesterday with the system doubling in speed since the new kernel went in I've video'd it now you can down load it a http://www.davmor2.co.uk/speed.avi What can I get information wise to make a sensible bug out of it for you guys? | 16:47 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: most useful bit will be to narrow down as closely as possible between which two kernels the regression was introduced | 16:49 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: if you can let me know the bug # too that'll be good (also tag it regression-potential) | 16:51 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: I can then try and see what patches went in and we can try to build some test kernels to bisect further | 16:51 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: it didn't happen last week Monday or Tuesday or during alpha 5 testing the week before | 16:54 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: once we get working iso's I'll try it again in case it was just one of the many issues currently that was effecting it. | 16:55 |
| davmor2 | but definitely post alpha 5 | 16:55 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Just to confirm, mythbuntu has the dbus issue :( No surprise, but still sad. | 16:57 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: ok, let me know after the latest batch of testing. I'll look and see which kernels were in play during Alpha 5. | 16:58 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I think someone did a respin to get there armel system on the tracker and it wiped out some of the other reports | 16:59 |
| fader_ | Ah, that would explain it | 16:59 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Do you know if anyone had reported that the 'Install Mythbuntu' option didn't actually launch Ubiquity but just went to the normal live environment? | 16:59 |
| Daviey | erk | 17:00 |
| fader_ | I don't see it from a cursory search but you're more likely to know offhand | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | ubuntu alternate was the same my this failed report got knocked off | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | fader_: ara did it's across the live cds | 17:00 |
| davmor2 | ara: what was the bug number for that? | 17:00 |
| fader_ | davmor2: That would explain why I didn't find it, since I was looking for mythbuntu specifically :) | 17:00 |
| fader_ | Is it even worth linking these bugs against the images on the tracker knowing they're going to be respun anyway? | 17:01 |
| davmor2 | yes go on be a devil ;) | 17:01 |
| fader_ | Hehe | 17:01 |
| davmor2 | fader_: Bug 430607 | 17:02 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430607 in ubiquity "Selecting "Installing Ubuntu" starts the Live CD, but not Ubiquity (needs conversion to Upstart)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430607 | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | fader_: ^ does that sound familiar | 17:03 |
| fader_ | davmor2: That's the one | 17:04 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| ara | hey guys, I have been off about 20 minutes, any updates? | 17:49 |
| davmor2 | ara: everything is still brokne | 17:58 |
| davmor2 | broken even | 17:58 |
| ara | Ubuntu QA meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 2mins | 17:58 |
| davmor2 | Kubuntu alt images are up | 19:09 |
| sivang | anybody had luck using 4500M HD from intel with latest ubuntu stable ? | 19:36 |
| sivang | I'm trying to understand if this is a worthwhile purchase | 19:36 |
| fader_ | sivang: You might have better luck asking in #ubuntu; this channel is mostly devoted to testing updates and the next release | 19:37 |
| sivang | ah I see, the folks in ubuntu didn't help so far, | 19:38 |
| sivang | besides for referecing me to the hardware testing wiki which those cards are not listed | 19:39 |
| sivang | :( | 19:39 |
| * davmor2 is testing kubuntu alt 64, alt 32 and live 32 | 19:40 | |
| fader_ | sivang: :( | 19:40 |
| fader_ | sivang: I'm assuming that's a video card? If so, I'd imagine it's supported, as Intel's stuff has pretty good support | 19:41 |
| davmor2 | sivang: try the intel site | 19:41 |
| sivang | Right, but there are problematic models as I learend while searching though GMA 500 | 19:41 |
| davmor2 | sivang: http://ubuntologist.blogspot.com/2009/07/my-intel-4500hd-super-video.html | 19:50 |
| davmor2 | jaunty supports it but it is slowish | 19:50 |
| sivang | davmor2: using this instructions I get full speed? | 19:54 |
| sivang | or is it still slowish ? | 19:54 |
| davmor2 | Pass reading it he got better performance But I don't have one so can't tell you | 19:55 |
| jtholmes | Persistence on kubuntu is not working I followed the instruction on thishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence?action=show&redirect=LiveCDPersistence url | 20:09 |
| jtholmes | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence?action=show&redirect=LiveCDPersistence | 20:09 |
| jtholmes | Is there something i am missing casper says it is saving the snapshot but nothing ends up on the USB stick which is ext3 any ideas | 20:10 |
| jtholmes | I have tried the USB stick mounted and unmounted and same results | 20:11 |
| jtholmes | Persistence is one of the elements of the live cd test procedure | 20:11 |
| jtholmes | I see where 3 other folks did not show a problem with the Persistence testing and wonder if i am following the wrong instructions for Persistent option | 20:12 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: bug 430940 it's still happening on the fixed images so nothing to do with that :( | 20:21 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430940 in linux "On my nvidia box the system is running at double speed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430940 | 20:21 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, any ideas on my above ^ comments on persistent option | 20:26 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: you've setup the usb disk first I'm assuming? | 20:28 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, yes per the https i posted above, it is 4gb and i made it all ext3 fs | 20:29 |
| jtholmes | and labeled it casper-rw | 20:29 |
| sbeattie | jtholmes: and you're passing 'persistent' on the boot command line? | 20:30 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, yes after the '--' but i always remove 'quiet and splash' so i can see what is going on | 20:32 |
| jtholmes | casper usually finds the Stick but never appears to read it | 20:32 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: I should just work at that point. | 20:33 |
| davmor2 | it even | 20:33 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, i am going to try another stick | 20:34 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: is there anything else missing from that bug that might be useful to you? | 20:41 |
| sbeattie | jtholmes: hrm, watching the boot output on kubuntu-amd64-live with persistent enabled, I got a warning about being unable to find the persistent storage; that's with the 20090916.1 build. | 20:58 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: and you wrote a bug immediately right /me ducks behind the couch | 21:00 |
| * sbeattie is waiting for the 20090916.2 builds to finish downloading. | 21:00 | |
| * davmor2 is just test wubi on it now to see if it is fix-ed | 21:00 | |
| sbeattie | jtholmes: hrm, okay, I see the same warning with the ubuntu live cd, but I do get a persistent home (fs is labeled with home-rw) | 21:07 |
| fader_ | Is 20090916.2 the latest and greatest for -studio or is it still needing respun? | 21:08 |
| davmor2 | fader_: as I understand it kubuntu is safe to test | 21:10 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Thanks. I'll see if I can get it slurped down before you crazy kids finish all the test cases ;) | 21:11 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: hi, I posted a comment to the bug. basically I want to start by confirming the 2.6.31-8.28 kernel restores the system to "normal" speed. | 21:12 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: there were a few rebases with upstream since that kernel so we'll need to do a few bisects to try to narrow it down | 21:13 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: Okay I'm going to need that kinda involvement till after a6 is out of the door. So can we do it on Friday. | 21:14 |
| ogasawara | davmor2: works for me | 21:15 |
| davmor2 | ogasawara: cool I can spend all day on it then | 21:15 |
| sbeattie | jtholmes: were you able to get kubuntu's live cd to accept at all? I'm just stuck sitting at a kdm prompt, and it won't take any input at all. | 21:20 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, yes i did today but yesterday when that happened i opened console (F2) and su'd and killall kdm and then kde came up ok, interesting | 21:26 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, sorry I did not see above posts ^ answered wrong question | 21:28 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, no i did not get any home-rw or anything else I get an error when shutting down ata.1 ... exception ... | 21:29 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, so i dont think that casper is capable of writing to casper-rw | 21:29 |
| sbeattie | I'm not even getting ctl-alt-F2 to give me a tty under kubuntu. | 21:29 |
| sbeattie | that's with the 20090916.2 build. | 21:30 |
| fader_ | davmor2: have you seen bug 430940 only on nvidia systems or is it that you've only tested it on an nvidia system? | 21:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430940 in linux "On my nvidia box the system is running at double speed" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430940 | 21:30 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, i also had that problem at one time then on another boot of live cd i was able to get ctrl+alt +FN and get a console window | 21:30 |
| davmor2 | fader_: only on the nvidia system | 21:31 |
| fader_ | Weird | 21:31 |
| jtholmes | sbeattie, i have the 20090916 no dots after it that was early AM today | 21:31 |
| davmor2 | fader_: I know it could be the nvidia gfx card or the amd dual core or ............. | 21:35 |
| sbeattie | yeah, that appears to be gone from cdimages. | 21:35 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Does it happen in the live environment as well? | 21:35 |
| davmor2 | fader_: yeap | 21:36 |
| ara | hey guys, which images are safe to test? | 21:43 |
| davmor2 | ara: kubuntu but not wubi again | 21:43 |
| ara | davmor2, all of the ubuntu still broken? | 21:44 |
| davmor2 | yeap 3 hours-ish | 21:44 |
| ara | ok, I will sync kubuntu then, thanks! davmor2 | 21:44 |
| davmor2 | ara np | 21:47 |
| * fader_ starts kubuntu amd64 expert | 21:55 | |
| * fader_ sighs. | 22:19 | |
| fader_ | Right. The default disk image isn't big enough for that. Starting again. | 22:19 |
| fader_ | davmor2: kubuntu alternate seems to be working, huzzah! | 23:09 |
| fader_ | Well, except that I ran out of space again. But the install worked. :) | 23:10 |
| davmor2 | fader_: how much space do you allow? | 23:11 |
| davmor2 | 512 meg | 23:11 |
| fader_ | Heh | 23:11 |
| davmor2 | live is broken | 23:11 |
| fader_ | I left it at the defaults. On an 8G drive it allocated 2.2G for / and 4.something for /home :/ | 23:11 |
| fader_ | I was hoping you or someone else with a bigger drive could tell me if it still defaults to something too small | 23:12 |
| fader_ | I'm going to run through another test case and make sure that it installs correctly, and then maybe report a bug about the partitioner | 23:13 |
| davmor2 | what about swap | 23:14 |
| fader_ | It got 1G | 23:14 |
| davmor2 | 2.2 G is more than enough so it should be fine | 23:16 |
| fader_ | Hmm, I'll be interested to see the usage from a full install on one partition | 23:17 |
| fader_ | Doing the encrypted install now | 23:17 |
| fader_ | Used 2.3G on the install | 23:40 |
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