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lesshastehi all10:30
lesshaste hi.. I have a firefox problem where it freezes when uploading files... The strace at http://pastebin.com/f118d9b2e seems to actually imply it's an X server problem as firefox is waiting for something from the server which never arrives. the important part starts at line 177010:32
tjaaltonlesshaste: do you have /tmp/.X11-unix/X0 or not?10:39
lesshastels -lat /tmp/.X11-unix/X010:40
lesshastesrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2009-09-16 08:38 /tmp/.X11-unix/X010:40
lesshastetjaalton: sorry that was meant for you10:40
tseliottjaalton: did you investigate what pitti reported about vmmouse?10:41
tjaaltontseliot: yes, the fix was in git but never uploaded10:41
tseliottjaalton: ah, ok. So we shall wait until the freeze is over10:42
tjaaltonlesshaste: ok. can't tell why it fails then10:42
tjaaltontseliot: yes10:42
tseliotok, thanks10:42
lesshastetjaalton: disabling all extensions fixed it!10:43
lesshasteall add-ons I mean10:43
lesshastethe problem is either the adblock plus or flashblock it seems10:59
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loic-mtjaalton: hi13:43
loic-mtjaalton: is linuxwacom 0.8.4.1 (stable) definitely off for Karmic?13:43
tjaaltonloic-m: no, been on my todo-list for a while13:50
loic-mtjaalton: ok, thanks. I can't get my tablt configured in Karmic ;)13:51
loic-mI had another look at the Debian packaging no I've a bit more experience, and it looks messy13:51
loic-mDoesn't that causes troubles when upgrading?13:52
tjaaltonyes13:52
tjaaltonupstream is going to fix their release model soonish13:53
tjaaltonand put the driver in git.fd.o13:53
tjaaltonthat'll be a day to celebrate13:53
loic-mIndeed... Did they discuss that on the -devel list?13:53
tjaaltononly briefly13:54
tjaaltonbut now there seems to be http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~whot/xf86-input-wacom/13:54
tjaaltonwhot is cleaning up the driver13:54
jcristauwhot is awesome :)13:55
tjaaltonyeah, he's like all over the place :)13:55
tseliotsuperm1: I uploaded nv to my PPA (I had to sign the source though)13:55
* tseliot would like to see wacom use xinput13:56
tjaaltonit's going to13:57
tseliothttp://cgit.freedesktop.org/~whot/xf86-input-wacom/commit/?id=2e01d5b83ae710c4dccfb5d79c7154c38419b9f313:57
tseliot\o/13:57
loic-mDidn't realise whot=Peter Hutterer13:57
loic-myes, sounds awesome13:57
loic-mWhat was the problem with lw release tarballs?13:58
tjaaltonthe are just that, blobs, and no way to cherry pick newer changes13:59
tjaaltonat least I couldn't make git-svn to work14:00
loic-mMy difficulty is more that the current packaging isn't transparent - i.e. no doc about what was done for the repack, and inline patches even though there's a patch system14:02
tjaaltonbecause the build system is a mess14:05
tjaaltonie. the packaging14:05
loic-mMakes the netry barrier level a tad high14:10
tjaaltonthat'll get fixed when the upstream packaging is like the rest of the drivers14:11
loic-mIs there a good way to learn about drivers packaging?14:11
tjaaltonexisting packages I guess14:12
jcristauit's pretty basic autotools, plus some magic to make sure we get the right abi provides and depends14:12
loic-mis there differences with applications packaging?14:13
JontheEchidnaI have a bug I need to report, and was wondering if it should be filed against libdrm or xserver-xorg-video-intel. Basically, DRM fails to load and X is forced to resort to the software rasterizer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272111/14:28
JontheEchidnaThis happens on an alpha 5 livecd, too14:28
JontheEchidnaxserver-xorg-video-intel makes performance a bit better, but it still is using the software rasterizer :(14:29
JontheEchidna*xserver-xorg-video-intel from xorg-edges14:29
tjaaltonloic-m: got a driver for you to test..15:01
loic-mtjaalton: thanks15:01
tjaalton32 or 64bit?15:02
loic-m32 please15:02
tjaaltonloic-m: http://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/foo/xserver-xorg-input-wacom_0.8.4.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb15:03
loic-mtjaalton: no need to test wacom-tools too?15:06
tjaaltonhttp://users.tkk.fi/~tjaalton/foo/wacom-tools_0.8.4.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb15:06
loic-mtjaalton: thanks15:07
loic-mbbl15:23
loic-mtjaalton: your 0.8.4.1 wacom packages work well with my Intuos3 6x8. Input-hotplug, pressure in Gimp, and setting the properties with xsetwacom for the pad16:25
loic-mInkscape draws completely off base, but that's AFAIK a known bug, also in Jaunty16:26
loic-mThe provided .fdi still doesn't work with wacomcpl, but that was the same in Jaunty too16:27
loic-mThe Cintiq is another story, will probably take longer to set up till I can really say I tested it, because of the dualscreen configuration16:28
tjaaltonloic-m: ok, nice to hear18:27
loic-mindeed ;)18:28
tjaaltoncould you reply to bug 405800, it would help getting it ack'ed18:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 405800 in wacom-tools "Please update wacom to 0.8.4-1 version" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40580018:31
loic-mSorry, was away. I'll do that right now18:40
tjaaltonthanks18:43
loic-mDone,  tell me if you need anything else.18:46
Ngso with gnome screensaver not quite working on suspend atm, I'm reminded just how beautifully fast X gets video back up after resume :)20:53
Ngthe wrinkle being that input devices20:53
Ng take several seconds. I seem to remember someone saying that fedora had some kind of patch for that20:53
Ng(also from a simple usability/polish point of view I wonder if the fadeout of gnome-screensaver should happen *way* faster so suspend happens almost as fast as it's happening atm20:56
Ngafaict the fade is about 1s long atm, which subjectively seems like the longest part of the suspend process ;)20:56
jcristauheh, the suspend process starts when i close the lid, and finishes right about when the laptop is in its bag :)21:03
cdE|Woozydoes the suspend process really wait for gnome-screensaver to finish fading out?21:03
NgcdE|Woozy: I was poking at the gnome-session source earlier and it seems that when it wants to blan kthe screen it shells out to gnome-screensaver-command, which afaict doesn't return until the activate/lock has finished fading21:10
Ng(see "time gnome-screensaver-command --activate")21:10
NgI kinda assumed it would be dbus magic, and I can well understand that you wouldn't want the actual suspend to happen mid-fade21:11

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