[10:21] <ziroday> Hi! When starting U1 for the first time no web page opens up offering to Add the computer to my account. I'm running Jaunty and I've set my default browser to firefox-3.5, any ideas why this is happening?
[10:21] <ziroday> That and when running ubuntuone-client-applet I get http://pastebin.com/m45e792f4
[10:46] <aquarius> ziroday, I think that there's a new release of Ubuntu One coming out very shortly which fixes that problem
[10:47] <ziroday> aquarius: awesome, shall sit tight then
[12:39] <thisfred> morning!
[12:45] <aquarius> hey thisfred_
[12:46] <thisfred_> aquarius: hi!
[12:47] <aquarius> statik, did you see chad's email about getting stuff into karmic?
[12:47] <aquarius> thisfred_, how did you guys get on yesterday? I had to leave pretty early
[12:48] <statik> aquarius, i did. i was out sick yesterday, sorry about that. i've got to take my kid to school and then go directly into a conf call, but i will respond to it today with some suggestions for how to make that go more smoothly next time. if it were me i would have refused to upload a new release with no ubuntu targeted bugs during the freeze also.
[12:50] <thisfred_> aquarius: yeah so there's that. On the upside we do have a candidate that we think is ready
[12:54] <aquarius> thisfred_, yep, I gathered that -- there seem to be a couple of branches, all of which think they are the prospective 0.4 release?
[12:54] <aquarius> trunk-0.4, actual trunk itself, and one called trunk/karmic or something similar?
[12:55] <statik> aquarius, from the comments on the merge proposal it looks like desktopcouch0.4 will go in after alpha6 tomorrow
[12:55] <aquarius> statik, ah, good. I was a bit confused because chad's mail made it look like it wouldn't go in at all, which was concerning
[12:56] <statik> i think monday would have been fine, but uploading during the freeze is tougher
[12:57] <statik> kenvandine, just saw your question from yesterday about splitting out the initscript from couchdb (i was out sick). status is notevenstarted, i will be working on it today
[12:58] <aquarius> yeah. we were aiming for monday :(
[12:59] <thisfred_> aquarius: I have no idea which is the superplusgood one, we'll have to await the Cardinal
[13:07] <kenvandine> statik, thx!
[13:18] <aquarius> statik, feeling beetter today?
[13:26] <jblount> aquarius: yo! Do you know off hand if html5 <input> 's can get id/type/class attributes?
[13:26] <aquarius> jblount?
[13:26] <jblount> aquarius: I'm trying to turn our html validation back on, but it fails on this.
[13:26] <aquarius> don't understand the question
[13:27] <aquarius> is your question: are id, class, and type attributes valid on input in HTML5? If it is, the answer is: yes. Any element can have id or class, and type is valid on input
[13:28] <jblount> aquarius: When I try to validate a page with html5lib, it fails saying that <input> can't have id, type, & class attributes. This seems obviously wrong to me. Here's the pasted error msg: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/272073/
[13:28] <aquarius> it is wrong
[13:28] <jblount> aquarius: That's what I thought, so you'e understood and answered my question. Must be a problem with html5lib... will investigate.
[13:28] <aquarius> chuck the page through http://html5.validator.nu/
[13:28] <jblount> aquarius: Yeah, it rocks there.
[13:28] <aquarius> since that uses he latest html5lib, afaik
[13:28] <aquarius> then, html5lib fail
[13:28] <aquarius> :-)
[13:29] <aquarius> surely it would have complained about it before, though? I can't believe we never had any <input> elements. What's changed?
[13:30] <jblount> aquarius: I've had validation skipping for months, because of a similar problem. (unexplained, obviously broken validation)
[13:30] <jblount> I'll try it against newer versions and see what the problem is. Thanks for the double check :)
[13:51]  * aquarius looks baffledly at the ubuntuone checkout
[13:51] <aquarius> why is lib/ubuntuone/oauthdesktop/* not versioned, according to bzr?
[13:55] <verterok> aquarius: it's in the ubuntuone-client branch
[13:55] <aquarius> verterok, ah, so this is what happened when it all got split up?
[13:56] <verterok> aquarius: yeap
[14:40] <dobey> pay attention to the symlinks
[14:57] <gourgi> i just noticed "Notes" in the web interface but i cannot create any note. do they work or not yet?
[14:57] <rodrigo_> gourgi: they are stored in the db, but there's a bug when showing them
[14:58] <rodrigo_> gourgi: working on it right now, so hopefully would be fixed soon
[14:58] <gourgi> rodrigo thanks for quick response. keep working ;)
[14:59] <rodrigo_> :)
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS!
[15:00] <jblount> Oh, you choose few, you hackers and developers, engineers and fixers. I've been wondering what you've been working on. If you'd like to share, type "me" and hit enter in your IRC client. DONE / TODO / BLOCKED is the format.
[15:00] <vds> me
[15:00] <rodrigo_> me
[15:00] <teknico> me
[15:00] <jblount> me
[15:01] <dobey> meh
[15:01] <statik> me
[15:01] <urbanape> me
[15:03] <vds> DONE:landed branch to fix #416050  #418061 and #428029, discussed with mark and jdo about sms integration started a branch to close #381398
[15:03] <vds> TODO: finish the mentioned branch, move to the new house!
[15:03] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <vds> rodrigo_ all yours
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Tomboy <-> one.u.c syncing fixes
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Start upstream discussion for adding social services accounts config to about-me. Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. More tomboy syncing fixes. Notes web UI
[15:03] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <rodrigo_> teknico: vai
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: implemented algorithm for displaying contact names (#427883), added some tests for adding/editing contacts (#406315), improved the contacts web ui layout (thanks jblount!) (#399664)
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: fix more bugs, add more tests and docs for adding/editing contacts (#406315)
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:03] <teknico> next: jblount
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: Sorted css problem for teknico, some work on #402837
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: #402837, #320413, look into getting html validation working again
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:03] <jblount> dobey: tag
[15:03] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Found and fixed #430115 and #430109, 0.95.1 client release, web server rollout
[15:03] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Receipts, #374890, #375066, #376787
[15:03] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None. Milestones in LP are complex, confusing, and not set right and it makes monkeys ☹.
[15:03] <dobey> statik: your roll
[15:06] <dobey> hellooooo. mcflyyyy... anyone home
[15:06] <urbanape> DONE: Submitted two Bindwood branches: lp:~urbanape/bindwood/complete-sync and lp:~urbanape/bindwood/deleted-view
[15:06] <urbanape> TODO: Keep plugging away at Bindwood issues. I have an idea for further reducing the amount of work we're doing. Pack for next week. Lex is home sick, so Amber's with him this morning. I'll be with him this afternoon.
[15:06] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:06] <urbanape> statik, whenever you're ready
[15:07] <statik> sorry! DONE: out sick TODO: talk to everyone about bugs and help where i can BLOCKED: no
[15:07] <statik> this IRC thing is very distracting
[15:07] <thisfred_> CardinalFang: aquarius: the couchdb.one.ubuntu https url or what it turned out to be is in desktopcouch now right?
[15:08] <rodrigo_> statik: we got your 'out sick' mail from yesterday a couple of hours ago :)
[15:08] <CardinalFang> thisfred_, yes.  I get it from the web API.
[15:08] <thisfred_> CardinalFang: awesome
[15:08] <rodrigo_> statik: hope you're ok now though :)
[15:09] <statik> rodrigo_, thanks!
[15:09] <dobey> statik: what are you using for IRC?
[15:10] <urbanape> carrier pigeon, by the looks of things
[15:11] <dobey> passenger pidgeon! passenger pigeons' been extinct since 1914!
[15:12] <CardinalFang> DONE: Fixed a bug in packaging d-c.  Futile trashing at virtualbox for pure machine test.
[15:12] <CardinalFang> TODO: Make d-c compact its databases occasionally, Bug#427905.  Try to get d-c- released.
[15:12] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: Ubuntu frozen.  Other red tape?
[15:13] <CardinalFang> aquarius, What is the interaction between replication and compacting databases?  Is there any?
[15:14] <urbanape> extinct would explain it, too.
[15:16] <statik> dobey, xchat  + bip
[15:17] <dobey> xchat is probably why it's distracting :)
[15:26]  * aquarius returns, sorry
[15:26] <aquarius> damn, I missed the meeting
[15:26] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE:  bug #415375, bug #416413, merged into DC trunk
[15:26] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO:  fix UnknownLoginError and make it be known (bug #376087); test android phone sync
[15:26] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED:
[15:26] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 2
[15:27] <aquarius> thisfred_, erm, I'm not sure if the couch.one.ubuntu.com url is in trunk or not; which exactly is the most up-to-date branch is a question iI have for CardinalFang :)
[15:27] <aquarius> CardinalFang, interaction between replication and compaction: none, as far as I'm aware. COmpaction needs doing after writes happen; replication causes writes. I don[t think one triggers the other
[15:29] <CardinalFang> Right.  I wonder if reading from a remote, uncompact source will create local records we do not want.
[15:29] <CardinalFang> aquarius, we should be using trunk again.
[15:30] <aquarius> CardinalFang, so everything that will be in the 0.4 release is now in trunk?
[15:31] <CardinalFang> aquarius, Yes.
[15:31] <aquarius> CardinalFang, superb
[15:32] <CardinalFang> I even tagged my local branch before pushing, but the tag got lost somewhere between me and trunk.  I was going to ask statik about that.
[15:41] <urbanape> okay, good news and weird news.
[15:42] <urbanape> good news is we don't need to *only* support the 'default' profile. It's really easy, in fact, to segregate them, so I've made a new branch to do so. Weird news is that we only handle the top-level elements in any of our bookmarks folders, no sub-items. Yet. This will be handled by an upcoming branch.
[15:44] <CardinalFang> afk 10 min
[16:59] <joshuahoover1> rmcbride: have you seen this error when trying to apt-get install ubuntuone-client on jaunty (with the release today)? ubuntuone-client: Depends: python-ubuntuone-client (= 0.95.0+r213-0ubuntu1~ppa2~jaunty) but it is not going to be installed
[17:08] <VK7HSE> joshuahoover1: I can confirm that issue ...
[17:08] <joshuahoover1> VK7HSE: ok, well, it's not just me :)
[17:09] <joshuahoover1> VK7HSE: which is both reassuring and a little worrisome all at the same time ;)
[17:09] <VK7HSE> unfortunately!
[17:09] <joshuahoover1> appears i have the same problem on my xubuntu 9.04 test setup...hmmm
[17:09] <joshuahoover1> i'm seeing a (bad) pattern here
[17:10] <VK7HSE> I have the 3 packages for U1 awaiting upgrade...
[17:23] <VK7HSE> here is the list of the packages that have conflict ...  http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot-Synaptic%20Package%20Manager%20.png
[17:37] <dobey> hrmm
[17:37] <dobey> joshuahoover1: what does "apt-get install python-ubuntuone-client" say?
[17:43] <VK7HSE> dobey: I'm just installing some stuff in synaptic, as soon as it has finished I'll pastebin the output...
[17:44] <dobey> oh
[17:44] <dobey> i have a feeling i know what the problem is
[17:44] <dobey> now that my brain clicks into gear
[17:44] <VK7HSE> dobey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272242/
[17:45] <dobey> yep
[17:45] <dobey> as i thought
[17:45] <VK7HSE> I have both beta & nightlies (ppa)
[17:45] <dobey> yeah. it was a brain malfunction on my part
[17:46] <VK7HSE> he he! well we all have those! :D
[17:49] <VK7HSE> dobey: here's the output for the other two... (may not be needed!)  ...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/272245/
[17:49] <dobey> not needed
[17:49] <VK7HSE> ;)
[17:50] <dobey> i do need to fix my bluetooth keyboard though
[17:50] <dobey> my fingers aren't small enough to type reasonably well on my laptop's keyboard
[17:51] <VK7HSE> ahh phat phingers!  ... funny I suffer the same! ...:P
[17:51] <dobey> no
[17:51] <dobey> 6 inch laptop
[17:51] <VK7HSE> Gahh !
[17:52] <VK7HSE> although its slow... I use a pen on my Eee !!!
[17:52] <dobey> i haven't gotten touch screen set up on my laptop yet
[17:52] <dobey> and even if i did, i wouldn't want to type using a pen :)
[17:52] <VK7HSE> too true! ..
[17:54] <VK7HSE> time to get some kip... (UTC +10)  Yawn!
[17:54] <dobey> my bt keyboard had a slight alkaline malfunction though
[17:54] <VK7HSE> strange battery flattery never seems to go down too well !!
[17:55] <dobey> i think the batteries got unhappy about being in an airplane for 12 hours
[18:02] <dobey> joshuahoover1: will ping you when fix is published
[18:02] <dobey> aquarius: why'd you use apport to report a feature request? :P
[18:03] <aquarius> 'cos I read a thing which said that the actual bug report pages in launchpad now redirect to a page explaining how to use ubuntu-bug
[18:03] <aquarius> although I didn't check whether it actually *does*, yet :)
[18:06] <dobey> i don't think so
[18:07] <dobey> since ubuntu-bug doesn't work for things that aren't packaged in ubuntu
[18:07] <dobey> (well, not normally, our stuff has some magic)
[18:07] <aquarius> ah. I may have misinterpreted it, then.
[18:08] <aquarius> anyway, it felt somewhat silly while I was doing it, I admit it
[18:08] <dobey> heh
[18:08] <aquarius> especially since ubuntu-bug doesn't actually work for me and I have to use apport-cli; the gtk one dies when it tries to fire up firefox
[18:08] <aquarius> need to report a bug about that, heh
[18:10] <dobey> life has felt a bit like trying to debug "multiple segfaults" issues in gdb, as of late
[18:20] <rmcbride> joshuahoover1: dobey: I was afk there at lunch. reading backlog now
[18:23] <dobey> rmcbride: no worries. problem fixed-ish
[18:24] <rmcbride> dobey: yea I see what happened
[18:24] <rmcbride> dobey: I rebuilt jaunty this morning but I didn't fix all of the python-oauth deps apparently
[18:25] <dobey> no, it's my fault
[18:25] <dobey> i totally forgot that 2~foo < 2
[18:26] <rmcbride> dobey: yea that's why I rebuilt I had a MANUALDEPWAIT fail last night. I jsut didn't fix it thoroughly enough and tossed the clients over the wall
[18:27] <rmcbride> missed the second occurrance
[18:27] <dobey> oh you did local builds on jaunty too?
[18:28] <rmcbride> dobey: only just got my pbuilder-jaunty set up.
[18:29] <rmcbride> dobey: otherwise I would have caught this last night :/
[18:29] <dobey> this particular issue isn't an issue on karmic
[18:29] <rmcbride> dobey: I know
[18:29] <rmcbride> it's down to the ~blah in the python-oauth dep
[18:29] <rmcbride> but a jaunty pbuilder would have caught it
[18:29] <rmcbride> strange that I didn't get an error from the buildd on nightlies
[18:29] <dobey> hmm
[18:30] <dobey> no it's not
[18:30] <rmcbride> since it happily went MANUALDEPWAIT when the first instance wasn't fixed
[18:30] <rmcbride> dobey: ORLY
[18:30] <dobey> hrmm, actually i don't know
[18:30] <dobey> it looks like the 'backports' version has the ~jaunty1 also
[18:31] <dobey> which really doesn't make any sense to me
[18:31] <dobey> but w/e, is fixed now
[18:32] <dobey> just waiting for build/publish, then i will push to nightlies/beta
[18:32] <rmcbride> dobey: I already have a fix pushed
[18:33] <rmcbride> dobey: I'll race you :)
[18:34] <dobey> eh?
[18:34] <dobey> pushed to where?
[18:34] <rmcbride> dobey: nightlies
[18:34] <rmcbride> dobey: I fixed it in my build treee and rebuilt ppa3
[18:34] <rmcbride> rebuilt AS ppa3
[18:35] <dobey> how did you fix it?
[18:35] <rmcbride> dobey: I had spotted the problem this morning but only fixed it in one place. My fix worked in the place where I fixed it, but python-ubuntuone-client didn't get the benefit of me actually looking at it.
[18:35] <rmcbride> dobey: I changed teh version string to match that which was available in the beta/nightly PPA
[18:35] <rmcbride> for jaunty only
[18:36] <rmcbride> dobey: I had intended to discuss a more permanent fix with you but you're pretty busy
[18:36] <rmcbride> the version strign in the dep line that is
[18:36] <dobey> well i just bumped the package version of python-oauth to 0ubuntu2.1~jaunty1 :)
[18:37] <rmcbride> dobey: that would work too, I suppose
[18:37] <rmcbride> dobey: should still work with my string change, although mine isn't needed I suppose :)
[18:38] <rmcbride> dobey: so I've fixed it in the client  package, you've fixed it in the python-oauth version, and either method would correct the problem
[18:38] <dobey> eh
[18:39] <dobey> of course, i found YET MORE BUGS in python-oauth in the past 2 days
[18:39] <rmcbride> thats UNPOSSIBLE
[18:44] <dobey> and the new +archive pages are annoyingly annoying :-/
[18:47] <rmcbride> Yes they are
[18:57] <dobey> rmcbride: looks like i won the race :)
[18:57] <dobey> joshuahoover1: apt-get update should fix your dep issues :)
[18:58] <joshuahoover1> dobey: very good :)
[18:59] <dobey> man, launchpad JS really kills firefox
[18:59] <rmcbride> dobey: heh
[18:59] <rmcbride> dobey: I should use that trick. Build in my own PPA instead of nightlies. Live and learn I guess
[19:00] <dobey> rmcbride: i built it in the devel ppa
[19:00] <rmcbride> dobey: ah
[19:00] <dobey> i don't see why it matters though
[19:00] <rmcbride> joshuahoover1: confirm the fix if you would, and I won't bother copying the new nightlies to Beta, since they won't be needed
[19:00] <joshuahoover1> rmcbride: doing it right now
[19:01] <rmcbride> dobey: Yea I probably just started my builds after the rush. they're still pending 10 min
[19:02] <joshuahoover1> rmcbride: that did it :)
[19:02] <rmcbride> joshuahoover1: awesome
[21:41] <dobey> later!
[21:47] <_marx_> hm, 0.95 is in jaunty but not karmic
[22:30] <dobey> _marx_: it's in karmic in as much as it is in jaunty
[22:30] <dobey> _marx_: the upload for karmic proper just missed the alpha6 freeze though, so it will be uploaded after the release, i think
[22:33] <_marx_> ok, working with fresh vbox install of yesterdays daily, just did update/dist-upgrade and it's not there so waiting until 0:01 UTC i suppose