[09:15] good morning [09:22] morning [09:27] kwwii: hi... what new with the NM icons? any naming change? [09:27] whats* [09:31] mac_v: erm, you mean the ones in the panel? [09:32] kwwii: i think so , yeah , wasnt that the one you were discussing with asac? i had asked him a few days ago and he had said NM will be using fewer icons [09:33] no idle , send-receive , transmit [09:38] mac_v: right, I just sent him a lock and a bubble like icon for the menu of nm [09:38] currently nm is totally messed up on my machine [09:39] hmm... ok , then i'll wait for the Human theme update ;) [09:40] yeah [09:40] last night I also fixed the naming on the xdg user dir icons [09:40] so there will be an update soon [09:41] kwwii: where is the xdg name guidelines page? not the lp bug , but any other gnome site? [09:43] but *is there* any [10:08] mac_v: yes, at freedesktop.org [10:09] * kwwii co-maintains the naming spec [10:09] ;) [10:09] * mac_v somehow cant find it :( [10:22] sorry, I was in a meeting, let me find a link [10:23] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/icon-naming-spec [10:29] awesome , thankx , i'v been looking for that for so long :) [10:30] ask and ye shall recieve ;) [12:19] this fits the spirit of ubuntu really well! :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/arghmonkey/2284421781/in/pool-1188458@N24 [12:25] thorwil: man, you don't know how much I like that pic [12:25] kwwii: i like it too, still see a dissonance [12:26] kwwii: flickr search is too dumb for searching for license. but you can search for tags. hence ... [12:29] there gotta be a way to add your own tags? [12:33] only on pictures from "friends". stupid flickr is stupid [12:44] haha, there is an advanced search that also takes CC licensing into account, but you can't limit that one to a group's pool [12:54] thorwil: yeah, flickr is not the optimal way of doing this but it was there and people know about it [12:55] kwwii: it's just frustrating how close it comes to then fail on the last tiny steps. what messed up thinking to have _either_ advanced search _or_ search in a pool [13:01] kwwii: there are 35 images with a CC license that permist commercial use, according to a search in my favorites (now identical to the pool ...) [13:24] thorwil: yeah, I even sent them an email asking for features...naturally they said "thanks, we'll add that to the list" [13:24] I might need to download them all and check for myself, just to be sure [13:25] mat_t: you could ask Travis for the compiz close change ;) [13:27] thorwil: am I supposed to see images with that html page? [13:34] mac_v: thx, where can I find him? [13:37] mat_t: i think he'll be sleeping now ;p , i'll see if i can get the patch done myself , it's a simple one , [13:38] mat_t: but David's comment in the other explicitly says dont change to close... is it just to close the other bug or to not have the animation to fade i wonder [13:38] other bug* [13:40] mac_v: it was regarding the other bug [13:42] mac_v: if you could release the fix, please do! :) Otherwise I can talk to Travis === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [13:49] mat_t: right now , i'm having a look at it ... will inform if i get the patch ready ;) [13:57] mac_v: cool! [14:03] zniavre: hey, I fixed the problem with the top right corner pixel :) [14:04] kwwii, bonjour / hello [14:04] could you share the fix with me ? [14:06] hi, sure [14:07] essentially, I removed all the variables in the width and heigth [14:07] well, not really, but you will see when I send it to you :p [14:08] :o) [14:12] kwwii: arg, thumbnail links are local, sorry. but the loinks should work [14:13] thorwil: cool, thanks...I'll check it out in a bit [14:18] thorwil: erm, is that page your pics or all of the CC licensed pics? [14:18] I ask because my pic is not amongst them :) [14:19] I don't assign any license to my pics on flickr [14:19] I guess I could send an email to myself asking if I can use it :D [14:39] kwwii: all CC without NC licensed [14:39] kwwii: so you are the perfect example why we should ask people about licensing [14:41] right, I think I will send an email to everyone in the short-list [14:41] now is when I really wish I had 3g or such [14:42] going to the airport where I have no internet connection...not even in the 1st class lounge :p [14:59] thorwil: funky question, but did you remove any photos from the short-list? [15:00] kwwii: i wouldn't know how [15:01] thorwil: ok, thanks...just trying to figure this out. I guess it was the author [15:03] hey people, some hope of something like that http://www.youtube.com/user/madsrosendahl#play/uploads/3/XlCVrtgxVcI in karmic stable? [15:04] this type of stuff, give many popularity , i don't think it would be bad... [15:08] darkham: we will be having an animation but it will be a bit simpler than that [15:08] darkham: the artwork should be included shortly [15:10] kwwii: i've some hope to watch it in daily live cds? [15:10] :) [15:10] darkham: yeah, I am asking now as to when the artwork will be in the distro [15:11] it has been done for quite a while actually [15:11] I think that the final mockup is on the wiki [15:21] for what you artwork developers are now workink the most? [15:23] lol, on everything [15:24] * kwwii heads out to the airport [15:25] great... [15:41] what of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot [15:41] are on charts? [15:41] :=) [15:52] mat_t: added the patch :) [15:53] s/added/attached* [15:56] mac_v: great! [15:56] mac_v: that must be one of the quickest bug fixes in history :) [15:57] ;p [16:01] very good ideas in the mockup pages, please team make karmic better than ever!!! [16:01] i salute you [17:19] mat_t: mvo has committed the patch... now thats really a quick fix ;) [17:24] mac_v: yeah, well done! ;) [17:43] kwwii - is the gdm mockup from canonical going to make it into karmic? [17:54] mat_t: lololol...! even the fix is released now ! \o/ [17:55] mrmcq2u: kwwii is on a plane now ;) [17:55] Hello all _o/ [17:57] mac_v - he sure gets the plane allot [18:22] mac_v: yes I know :) [18:23] * mat_t didn't realise his own hidden powers [21:12] nice usplash [21:13] (karmic) [21:22] now all thats missing is the gdm theme to match :D [21:22] mrmcq2u: to match what? [21:23] the new xsplash theme [21:24] i must have missed it , let me update ;) [21:34] mrmcq2u, mac_v, seems i've missed it too - but the new boot time was amazing! [21:34] MDC1: grr... i got stcuk at boot! [21:34] stuck [21:36] well - me too but after some upgrade or install it was as new again [21:42] * mac_v rebooooooots [21:44] still have no idea whether the gdm theme will even change for karmic :( [21:46] i hope soon the shock is big [21:46] zniavre: shock? [21:47] xspalsh > gdm [21:47] hmm... [21:47] xsplash* [22:34] mrmcq2u: yes, it will change for karmic....I worked on it today, almost ready [22:35] hurray :D [22:35] I have been trying to figure out whether the new gdm in the canonical mockups would make it in to karmic for weeks :D [22:36] and just to give you my opinion kwwii - I think all of canonicals proposals with relation to art both gdm and xsplash have been A+ this release [22:37] mrmcq2u: yeah, me too and I was the one who was supposed to work on the themeing [22:37] we wanted to redo the interface but that will now be left for +1 [22:38] I have created a new metacity and gtk theme to make it look nicer [22:39] will the gdm look like the one on the wiki you proposed [22:40] yes, as closely as possible without editing a theme engine [22:40] I could probably get a screenshot out tomorrow, once I know how to make the new gdm use the theme ;) [22:40] Thats awesome, thanks for the info [22:41] anytime :) [22:41] _ [22:41] xnest gdmflexiserver does not work anymore for me [22:41] zniavre: right, here either [22:42] I do not think the new gdm works with it [22:42] will you be able to have the gtk theme specific to the gdm or will it need to be a new default gtk theme? [22:43] it is a normal gtk and metacity theme, I just made a different one so that it looks nice [22:47] Is the different one going to be the new default for the desktop too or can you have gdm use a seperate gtk theme to the default one for the desktop? [22:47] no, this will just be the default for gdm [22:47] ah cool [22:48] any testing ppa :D lol [22:48] worth a try :D [22:48] no, but once I know how to set it, I will put it in my ppa [22:48] actually, I will put it directly into karmic asap [22:49] but because it is so late in the cycle, it will be in my ppa for at least a week before it makes it in the distro [22:51] lol, just added your ppa :D [22:51] cool [22:52] I will add a new human icon theme package tomorrow [22:52] which fixes the xdg icons in the places menu [22:52] nice [22:52] thanks be to god that I installed the alpha...I did not know it was messed up [22:53] folder-download ? [22:53] and music and documents [22:53] they were all named incorrectly [22:53] :p [22:54] only folder-download were missing here [22:54] no, but the other two look slightly different, eh? [22:55] personally, I think we should change "download" to "downloads" [22:55] in french it's Téléchargement (without the s) [22:56] right, in the end, I didn't mention it until now. it is pretty late to suggest such changes now [22:56] and it is [22:56] "download" in the xdg spec [22:57] i already fix the name in my own icon theme [22:57] ;) [22:57] yes that's true [22:57] although as co-maintainer of the spec I guess I could change it pretty easily [22:57] it looks nice in the side panel of nautilus (bookmarks) [22:58] yes, although at first I did not like the idea of using the special folders I have to admit it is a pretty good idea [23:01] oh well, time for sleep...bonne nuit [23:02] good night [23:02] thank you [23:03] glad to help