[00:28] <showard> Hi, could someone reset my bug control account? it's resetting soon. Thanks (showard314)
[03:03] <drew212> hi guys
[03:35] <micahg> hi drew212
[06:10] <Hobbsee> !ping
[06:10] <ubot4> pong!
[06:17] <dholbach> #canonical-2009-09-17-07h16
[09:44] <alourie|work> dholbach: hi daniel
[09:55] <dholbach> hi alourie|work
[10:18] <matti> Hi dholbach :)
[10:22] <alourie|work> I need an advice
[10:23] <alourie|work> If I'm trying to split a package in 2, how do I say which files end up in which package?
[10:23] <dholbach> hi matti
[10:23] <dholbach> alourie|work: specify in debian/<package1>.install debian/<package2>.install
[10:24] <dholbach> alourie|work: might be mor on topic in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-devel
[10:24] <alourie|work> dholbach: I did, but it didn't help
[10:24] <alourie|work> dholbach: should I take it there?
[10:24] <dholbach> you might get more reseponses there :)
[15:03] <bddebian> Boo
[16:21]  * jacob really wishes that people would be more specific.. ex. #401494
[16:24] <BlackFate> jacob, lol
[16:24] <BlackFate> someone tell him to buy a new one
[16:24] <jacob> :P
[16:25] <jacob> also, I hate how I can never get ubottu to provide bug links when I reference them. :P
[16:26] <BlackFate> jacob, join #ubuntu-bugs-announce to get links etc :P
[16:26] <BlackFate> eeebotu does this
[16:27] <jacob> BlackFate: right, but ubottu/ubot4 would usually repeat a link for a bug when you say the number
[16:27] <jacob> as in, bug #401494
[16:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 401494 in ubuntu "keyboard dosn't work in terminal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401494
[16:27] <jacob> like that. :)
[16:27] <jacob> (note to self: say "bug" before the number)
[16:27] <BlackFate> ah didnt know this small detail. im new around freenode
[16:28] <jacob> welcome to the network that will consume all of your free time. ;)
[16:29] <BlackFate> jacob, well im a helper in a greek network, i know its prety time consuming :P
[16:35] <bdmurray> hggdh: wrt bug 430953 I just think that one feature not existing in the help is a rather large oversight
[16:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 430953 in coreutils "coreutils man pages are incomplete" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430953
[16:37] <hggdh> bdmurray: my personal position is that the man and info pages should match. Old, hard-core UNIX users are quite used to man, not to info (myself, for example). But upstream position has been rather firm in that
[16:38] <hggdh> the man pages are usually only changed when an error is spotted on them...
[16:38] <bdmurray> hggdh: how about saying its a bug becasue @1234567890 is not a string? "display time described by STRING, not `now'"
[16:40] <hggdh> we can try... but I would expect a response to adjust the info page *only*. We can, nevertheless, try to propose a patch with the correction on both man and info
[16:40] <BlackFate> well some commands are not in man
[16:40] <BlackFate> like "let"
[16:42] <hggdh> The point is if we look at 'man date' and "info coreutils 'date invocation'" it is easy to see that the info pages are much more elaborate
[16:45] <hggdh> bdmurray: 'date -d @1234567890' -- "@1234567890" *is* a string ;-)
[16:59] <hggdh> bdmurray: one thing I just thought: the --help should state that the help (and 'man') output is simplified, and "please see info coreutils 'date invocation' for full options"
[16:59] <hggdh> I think this would be accepted upstream
[17:02] <bdmurray> that'd be something, I guess its not really that important though
[17:04] <hggdh> BlackFate: 'let' as in bash scripting?
[17:04] <hggdh> bdmurray: I am not sure it is not important. I do *not* like this behaviour ;-)
[17:16] <ejat> where should i check if the splash wont show up while booting ?
[17:20] <^arky^> ejat: you can remove 'splash' entry in grub
[17:20] <ejat> it happened after my latest upgrade
[17:21] <ejat> it will show the splash when restart or shutdown ..
[17:21] <ejat> but not at the start ..
[17:47] <Kamusin> how can I manage a report that is directly (apparently) a conectivity issue with a mirror?
[23:06] <alourie> good evening
[23:06] <BUGabundo> ola alourie
[23:07] <alourie> BUGabundo: hya
[23:07] <alourie> brb, need to reboot
[23:19]  * alourie is back
[23:19] <alourie> hello
[23:22] <BUGabundo> hey
[23:25] <bdmurray> hi
[23:29] <BrairRabbi> anyone know why Karmic Koala live cd daily build, hangs in an endless loop, just as the boot music starts to play, x86 and AMD64 affected.
[23:30] <BUGabundo> BrairRabbi: please ask on #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <chrisccoulson> hey BUGabundo
[23:34] <chrisccoulson> you might notice i subscribed you to a compiz bug earlier ;)
[23:34] <BUGabundo> hey crimsun
[23:34] <BUGabundo> I did
[23:35] <BUGabundo> thanks so much
[23:35] <chrisccoulson> it seems that the keybindings are broken for everybody
[23:35] <BUGabundo> fell free to sub me to the readahead bug too :)
[23:35] <BUGabundo> I bet
[23:37] <crimsun> BUGabundo: yes?
[23:38] <alourie> I had a major crash since last upgrade. How do I report it?
[23:38] <alourie> just post /var/log/messages as one single bug? :-)
[23:38] <BUGabundo> crimsun: typo. sorry, was meant fro chrisccoulson
[23:38] <BUGabundo> alourie didn't apport fire up?
[23:41] <alourie> BUGabundo: well
[23:41] <alourie> Xorg crashed as a result in nvidia's segfault
[23:41] <alourie> and then
[23:42] <alourie> grub just got screwed so machine didn't boot
[23:42] <alourie> so no :-)
[23:43] <alourie> There are still udev errors when machine boots
[23:43] <alourie> and once in a while it requires manual fsck
[23:45] <alourie> so the only way I can see that apport would catch it, is if it runs before grub2 :-)
[23:46] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:49] <alourie> nah, I want to sleep now, will deal with filing bugs some other day
[23:49] <alourie> good night all