[00:00] TheMuso: no, only mounting LVs if you're using non-canonical names for them in /etc/fstab [00:00] oh ok [00:01] hmm, so software-store is going to replace gai for Karmic? [00:01] * Laney stabs launchpad [00:01] what's the query string? no-redirect or so [00:02] got it [00:03] slangasek: but where are these coming from? that's not our kernel: ubuntu 2.6.30.5-ep0 [00:04] kees: oh, huh [00:04] the most recent bug says easypeasy [00:04] which is an eee variant of ubuntu [00:04] kees: is that consistent with the others also? [00:04] I don't know whether that's the case for all of them [00:04] * kees goes to find the others [00:05] kees: I've probably closed them as invalid [00:05] 426914? [00:07] kees: that's one, yes [00:08] I'm baffled how debconf could be running and apt didn't scream about locks first. [00:10] slangasek: 431064 [00:12] kees: sudo debconf-communicate? [00:12] (or similar) [00:13] cjwatson: yeah, that would certainly do it... [00:15] kees: I dunno, maybe some bonkers wrapper or a package management frontend that starts debconf outside apt but doesn't pass through the fds etc. or ... [00:16] cjwatson: yeah. though 426914 doesn't show any signs of weird-3rd-party-ness [00:23] kees: well, pam-auth-update can be run standalone === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [01:11] pitti: is the retracer still doing source traces? seems missing from 427714, for example. [01:14] * lamont notes that his daughter is DJ for the next 2 hours at www.klikradio.org. [01:14] What sort of music/ [01:15] high school radio [01:15] webcast only [01:16] she's 11th grade [01:18] * lamont afk for a while,sadly [01:19] q === xcdfgkjhgcv1 is now known as xcdfgkjhgcv [02:28] can this bug 398214 assign to some one? [02:28] Launchpad bug 398214 in ubuntu "Karmic Koala stopps dead after /scripts/init-bottom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/398214 [02:34] e-jat: that's probably a part of the boot stuff changing (ie, /topic), and should already be known. That may well be a dupe [02:34] er, or not, looking at the report date [02:35] mathiaz: ubuntu-server candidates published (finally) [02:36] slangasek: awesome - my dinner will have to wait *for* *ever* now [02:36] mathiaz: dinner first, testing after? :) [02:37] slangasek: well - 1. sync, 2. start automated installs then eat, drink, party 42. do testing [02:37] kees: bug #431042> oh awesome, he's running update-manager and ubiquity at the same time [02:37] Launchpad bug 431042 in pam "dpkg error code 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431042 [02:37] mathiaz: if that's what works for you :) [02:48] * ccheney should have a fast i7 860 system by later next week, to build OOo on :-) [02:49] ccheney: ah yes. is OO.o supposed to work on karmic? [02:49] hm, writer works now. [02:50] Has KDE4 integration too. [02:50] oh, it's just presentatoin that seems to be broken with opening files [02:51] I'll try that when I get my netbook back from middle daughter later tonight (she's doing homework) [02:52] 90+% cpu when opening a pptx, or a ppt file, it appears [02:52] Hobbsee: under kubuntu? [02:53] ccheney: unr [02:53] oh no idea about unr :-\ [02:53] ccheney: i haven't run kubuntu in ages [02:53] ccheney: well, it shouldn't be much different? [02:53] kubuntu has some issues with new kde4 integration but roman is planning on having that fixed by end of week [02:53] i don't have a standard ubuntu karmic machine to test on, atm [02:53] hmm it might just be a function of the netbook being really slow [02:54] i noticed that even starting OOo takes ~ 4x as long on a netbook [02:54] i'd wondered that [02:54] but i don't see the same problem with opening a word doc, for eg [02:54] hmm if you want to you can file a bug report and attach the slow files [02:57] mmm, i might do that [03:06] slangasek: what does Edubuntu need to do to get an Alpha 6, if possible? [03:07] LaserJock: I'll schedule a rebuild of the edubuntu DVD this evening; will someone be available to test that it works? [03:07] slangasek: I believe so, I've got 2-3 people who've been testing recently [03:07] ok [03:07] there's a backlog of image builds, so it'll be at least 2-3 h before there's anything to test [03:07] slangasek: we got over-sized because I added all the edu apps to the livefs [03:08] slangasek: I'm committing a seed update now that should get us back down [03:08] ok, great [03:42] slangasek: hah, cool [03:46] hmm i hope p55 works with karmic, heh forgot to even check [03:50] ccheney: Is it known that OOo 3.1 doesn't know something is a .doc file unless it actually ends in .doc? [03:57] slangasek: was there a specific decision/reason why software-store replaced g-a-i so soon (i.e. for karmic)? [04:01] oi oi, kdm init -> upstart v1 complete and working \o/ [04:01] now to clean it up, make it pretty, and add some of the Keybuk love that he snuck into GDM for some extra splash lovin! [04:01] ScottK: wouldn't be surprised [04:02] * ScottK 's daughter about had a heart attack tonight when she reopened her homework and OOo showed an empty file. [04:02] I love when that happens! [04:02] heh [04:02] ScottK: quit being lazy and teach her LaTeX already [04:03] She needs .doc for interoperability with school. [04:03] ScottK: there is a bug wrt kde4 integration not appending extensions properly (if that is what she saw) [04:03] ccheney: OK, but when I manually added the extension, writer opened it fine. [04:03] ScottK: .txt files then :p [04:03] ScottK: yea [04:04] I thought depending on file extensions was the Windows way ... [04:04] i seriously doubt OOo tries to do anything fancy to detect what kind of file you are trying to have it open [04:04] ahh, ya I noticed that same problem...glad you said 'added the extension' :) now I can open up my buddies resume [04:05] ScottK: its Sun we are talking about... not a regular floss application ;-) [04:05] Well, I suppose. [04:06] but even gnome claims a 0 byte .doc file is a msword file [04:06] so i doubt that shared-mime-info does much better [04:08] files have to sufficient magic to not get confused for other things [04:08] * ccheney isn't sure if doc files have it, but many file types don't [04:09] We need resource forks in the Fs. :) [04:09] yep [04:13] Resource forks or not, we need to get everything to ignore the filename when determining the file type. :-) The filename only exists for humans. For all the computer cares about, files could be looked up by their inode or equivalent ID just fine. [04:22] slangasek: according to the report for the latest studio candidate, ubuntustudio-desktop is uninstallable, which during the install, shows up as tango-icon-theme being uninstallable. [04:22] ion: yea that works in theory... until you get a file whose type can't be _easily_ determined from the contents [04:22] * TheMuso digs to see what the problem is. [04:23] Oh and the previous candidate was prefectly ok. [04:24] ccheney: Then call is aplication/octet-stream and blame the format. ;-) [04:24] it [04:25] Alternatively, determine it the hard way and cache the result. :-) [04:32] if you end up trying to be too smart you end up not printing on tuesdays :) [04:41] so the 9.04 NBR installer somehow ate both my windows and recovery partitions [04:41] neither will boot correctly [04:41] Ok cannot reproduce uninstallability with chroot using archive.ubuntu.com, looks like it was transient. [05:17] ever since last update, my usb thumb drives are not autodetected anymore. Any ideas? [05:17] rgreening: Autodetected here on a fresh install. [05:18] hmm... strange indeed. [05:18] TheMuso: should I respin and see if the installability problem is fixed? [05:18] ScottK: kubuntu alternate also posted, finally [05:18] I believe we're just waiting now for DVDs and ARMs [05:19] slangasek: OK. It's getting late here. I'll be able to get through several KNE tests, but that's it for tonight. [05:19] * slangasek nods [05:19] Hopefully Riddell will be awake soon and start cranking through stuff. [05:21] * spstarr_desk gasps at topic.. now someone tells me [05:21] I cant boot my fsckin laptop now :) [05:21] * spstarr_desk thinks something broke bad [05:21] Actually I think things are mostly back to good. [05:21] slangasek: please [05:22] The dreaded "Waiting for root file system" problem [05:22] spstarr_desk: If you look in today's backscroll, you'll find discussion on how to work through it. [05:22] i dont have it.. [05:22] is this logged [05:22] spstarr_desk: irclogs.ubuntu.com [05:22] looking now [05:22] TheMuso: spinning [05:23] ScottK: this channel's log? [05:23] It's in htere. [05:23] htere/there [05:23] oh udev crap [05:23] Something weird is happening with karmic for me - supposedly clean shutdowns don't seem to be unmounting my root partition cleanly, and ext3 journal recovery happens on boot <-- yep [05:24] * spstarr_desk begins from here [05:26] oh its the blkid i need now in fstab? [05:27] why was this changed *now* ?? [05:27] this is a horrible time to break thnigs [05:28] ugh i have to go wired to fix this wifi + single user == death [05:31] It was supposed to land a couple of days ago. I think better now than after Alpha 6 and before the Beta. [05:31] the workaround isn't working for me [05:31] it drops me to a busybox shell [05:32] not bash [05:32] idea #2, boot rescue CD mount /boot inside / inside a /fakeroot [05:32] chroot; get network and dist-upgrade... [05:33] and mount /proc [05:33] TheMuso: uninstallables fixed [05:36] slangasek: So I see, thanks. [05:38] now let's apt dist-upgrade [05:39] is it mountall thats just broken? [05:40] Depends on exactly when you upgraded. [05:40] That was the last bit to get sorted. [05:40] that's the last thing i see.. i upgraded a few hours ago [05:41] Probably that's it then. [05:41] * spstarr_desk laughs, bad timing indeed! [05:42] * spstarr_desk is glad the *buntu cds respect 'single' mode [05:42] drops me to a root prompt [05:45] yay [05:45] thanks :) [05:45] * spstarr_desk goes back to wifi [06:04] ScottK: is there a PPA for kernel? or nightly builds? [06:04] i want to test the radeon 3D support on karmic but the kernel is too old [06:04] There is, but I don't know where. [06:04] * ScottK is off to bed. [06:09] slangasek: allright - -server amd64/i386 tests completed and successful [06:09] mathiaz: yay! [06:10] slangasek: 15/17 for amd64 and 14/17 for i386 [06:10] * slangasek nods [06:14] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/ ? [06:17] #canonical-2009-09-17-07h16 [06:19] dholbach: fail. [06:19] mneptok? [06:20] dholbach: was that paste meant to be meaningful? [06:20] * mneptok is confuzzled. [06:21] which paste? [06:21] oops [06:21] no [06:22] good morning [06:22] lalala :) [06:22] moin :) [06:22] dholbach, good morning :) [06:22] ouch ouch ouch [06:22] errr.... more coffee! [06:22] don't worry, i make mistakes, too. [06:22] mneptok: probably less than I do ;-) [06:22] /m sabdfl yes, i think Daniel is sexy, too. but i never asked if he likes you. ask him to dinner and a movie at UDS. [06:23] oops. [06:23] * Treenaks is still wondering about the blinking-while-typing Scroll Lock led [06:23] /lickban mneptok [06:23] slangasek: give me a few hours in New Mexico heat and i make my own gravy. [06:49] o.O strange things int this channel (mind, mneptok is here...) [06:50] * mneptok bursts into flame [07:12] kirkland, ttx: does bug #430820 need to be documented in the errata for a6? [07:12] Launchpad bug 430820 in eucalyptus "eucalyptus node install results in broken /etc/network/interfaces" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430820 [07:12] slangasek: i think it should [07:12] slangasek: network will be broken on -nc install first boots [07:13] kirkland: is there a straightforward workaround? (If the bridge isn't configured right, how do you access the node to reconfigure it, via a virtual console?) [07:13] or is the node the physical cluster node? [07:13] slangasek: yes; login to tty1, edit /etc/network/interfaces [07:14] ok [07:14] slangasek: the specific line of sed is in that bug [07:14] * slangasek nods [07:14] slangasek: I would also mention bug 430758. I'll do some more testing this morning to confirm problem/workaround [07:14] Launchpad bug 430758 in eucalyptus "Cloud installer / Cluster install hangs at reboot after install" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430758 [07:15] ttx: welcome back [07:15] I'll doublecheck that logging in by ssh/tty2 and rebooting somehow works around it. [07:15] ttx: i didn't get that problem [07:16] ttx: note that there have been another set of iso's since you went to sleep [07:16] that's why I meant by doublechecking :) [07:16] * ttx rsyncs [07:19] nurmi: ping [07:31] superm1, hi, we've been exchanging emails right now [07:34] Good morning [07:34] pochu: oh, nice; yes, will do [07:38] Can someone please give back empathy on powerpc? [07:41] slytherin: Done. [07:47] pochu: bug updated, uploading now [07:48] kees: no, currently disabled because of xulrunner wreaking havoc [07:52] pitti: \o/ thanks! === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:55] pochu: do you need this in sid, or is experimental ok for now? [07:57] pitti: exp is ok until libgudev is in sid [07:57] pitti: I can poke you when that happens [07:58] or if it can go to unstable directly, why not upload there? [07:58] pochu: well, just in case the new rb doesn't make it into squeeze, I rather not have it in a stable release [07:59] pochu: but once it's through NEW, I can upload it to sid with a snap of a finger, so just poke me [07:59] ok, that's fine then :) [07:59] pochu: also, feel free to add yourself to Uploaders: and just do it [08:00] pochu: meh, Debian's udev missing .pc file [08:00] kirkland: confirming bug 430758 is avoided by one recent fix from Colin in the initscript. [08:00] Launchpad bug 430758 in eucalyptus "Cloud installer / Cluster install hangs at reboot after install" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430758 [08:03] pitti: does it? it has /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libudev.pc, isn't that enough? [08:03] pochu: that's for the library [08:04] pochu: we need /usr/share/pkgconfig/udev.pc [08:04] pochu: I'll hack around it [08:05] are there going to be mass give back for ia64? There are many FTBFS because of chroot problems. [08:06] pitti: oh [08:11] ttx: Oh, cool. [08:13] soren: it is still not displaying the eucalyptus initscripts messages, but that's more cosmetic [08:13] I'll file a separate bug for that. [08:23] Hi all. I have a script that uses zenith to provide the user with an easy to use interface other than the command line. But now I would like to transform it into a fully functional program for ubuntu/gnome, what devel tools are default/recommended for ubuntu, eg. glade etc? [08:30] the buildds install recommends by default, so a hard dependency on something recommended by a dependency is not required, right? === evand1 is now known as evand [08:35] evand: afaik they don't install recommends [08:36] evand: buildd don't install recommends. [08:37] Dyllan: AFAIK, glade is deprecated. [08:38] slytherin, what would you recommend then? [08:38] dholbach: slytherin: ah, thanks! I was completely unaware of that. [08:38] Dyllan: I haven't done much UI programming from scratch in gnome. the replacement for glade is something called gtkbuilder. But I never used it. [08:41] slytherin, hmm ok. So can i write the program in any language then use gtkbuilder to design the front-end, is that the idea? [09:04] the topic can be changed to karmic boots again ;-) === asac_ is now known as asac === michael_ is now known as mbiebl [09:20] do i need a FFe for bug #430658? [09:20] Launchpad bug 430658 in lintian "Please merge lintian 2.2.15 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430658 === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [10:00] evand: hm, I think usb-creator now works without root privs, but its .desktop file still seems to run it through gksu? [10:00] pitti: whoops [10:00] fixing now [10:01] evand: while you are at it, could you please fix this: /tmp/usb-creator.log [10:01] evand: static file name in world-writable directory -> security vuln [10:01] I can also report it as a bug, if you prefer [10:01] indeed, I'll move it to a more sane location [10:01] please do [10:04] evand: need a bug about dropping gksu as well, or are just just doing it in bzr? [10:04] hrm, actually the desktop file in trunk just launches usb-creator-gtk. Is this launching through gksu bug via bzr trunk or the package in the archive? [10:08] evand: bug 431266 [10:08] Bug 431266 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/431266 is private [10:08] evand: hm, that's right, weird; I started it from the menu and it asked me for password (gksu) [10:10] are you sure it was gksu and not the pk authentication agent (though I'm not sure why that would come up either) [10:10] evand: yes [10:10] very odd then [10:11] hm, who knows [10:11] ignore this for now, please [10:13] okay [10:18] pitti: yeah it seems I can continue working on the main bug report! Bus 001 Device 007: ID 152d:2329 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA Technology Corp. [10:18] I'll do the necessary debugging now :) [10:24] sistpoty|work, slangasek, geser: thanks guys! announced your session! [10:25] dholbach: thanks (but slangasek won't be around for this session though) [10:25] sistpoty|work: oh ok [10:25] geser: would you like to help out again this Friday? [10:25] dholbach: good to let me know that I volunteered for that session too :) [10:25] sorry [10:25] sistpoty|work: yes [10:25] I misread that email [10:25] excusez-moi [10:25] thanks a lot geser :) [10:26] geser: sometimes you need to help people to find their luck :) [10:26] dholbach: no problem, I planned to be round for the session anyway [10:29] sistpoty|work: updated :) [10:29] dholbach: excellent, thanks! [10:29] * sebner is sooo happy. This is going to be an awesome session :D [10:34] pitti, CUPS does not start automatically on boot any more. Does it need to get converted to Upstart? === ogra_ is now known as ogra === woozy__ is now known as woozy_ [11:18] Hmm .. upon reporting bugs against pulseaudio one is prompted to try the packages from the ubuntu-audio-dev PPA .. once installed though ubuntu-bug declines to co-operate: ".. This is not a genuine Ubuntu package .." [11:19] haha [11:19] That's a good trick; I'll do that for more packages [11:19] al-maisan: You want to ping davidchen and/or TheMuso about it I guess [11:20] lool :) [11:21] sebner: right, seems that will cover your case as well then [11:22] tkamppeter: no, it should still work [11:22] ugh, that was hard to recover from; with the latest cryptsetup and today's updates, my machine is completely busted [11:22] pitti: did you see my comment (with the debug information?), anyways. would you mind leading a helping hand in blacklisting that stuff? [11:22] it hangs forever on "starting sad crypto disks..." [11:22] (I don't have any) [11:22] and purging cryptsetup causes it not to boot at all any more [11:23] kirkland: hey [11:23] kirkland: seb128 just pointed out a change which will fix the ecryptfs/gdm problem: gnome bug 565151 [11:23] Gnome bug 565151 in general "Thrashing autofs home directory mounts" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565151 [11:25] evand1: hm, trying to boot an usb-creator usb stick with current karmic on my machine fails; it just gives me tons of "init line 1: /dev/sr0 not found" lines and then throws me into the initramfs prompt [11:25] it works on my wife's machine [11:25] pitti: I also wouldn't mind if you upload the blacklist-version the next days (what you'll do, as stated in the bug report) [11:26] can it be that it needs a longer timeout or something? did you hear this before? [11:26] pitti: does /casper.log have anything of note? [11:26] sebner: the bug report has the instructions how to blacklist; you need the ATTRS line with the GOTO, and the LABEL="...." [11:26] evand1: is that accessible from the initramfs prompt? [11:26] yes [11:26] cat /casper.log [11:27] ok [11:27] I need to reinstall this machine anyway, booting is completely busted [11:27] pitti: ah, just saw it. thx [11:27] I'm writing a CD now, but before I run that, I'll try the usb stick again [11:36] pitti, thanks, then it seems that it is an upstart bug that all non-converted services (cups, mysql, sshd) did not start for me on boot. [11:37] tkamppeter: right, seems so; init.d scripts need to work, for at least the next decade [11:37] decade ? OMG ! === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [11:38] ogra: well, there's tons of third-party and proprietary software out there [11:38] and even converting our own entire universe will last a while [11:38] pfft, just ignore them ... [11:38] :) [11:39] * ogra hides from the wrath of MOTU === cjwatson changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: karmic is getting happier, but is still feeling a bit hung-over, so be gentle | Archive: frozen for alpha-6, FeatureFreeze, UIFreeze | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper-jaunty | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs [11:40] :) [11:41] more Alka-Seltzer for karmic !! [11:43] have you guys considered creating something like debian unstable for people who like to keep living on the (very bleeding) edge? [11:45] ior3k, that's called karmic right now :) [11:45] ior3k, we call it karmic [11:45] right, that's not what I mean [11:45] I mean a permanent name [11:45] so we don't have to change sources.list [11:45] is it really that hard to adjust your sources.list twice a year ? [11:46] no, it isn't hard at all, I'm just asking [11:47] if there is some kind of rationale behind it [11:47] yes, our unstable is a snapshot of debians [11:48] ah, so you keep an unmodified unstable branch that is exactly like debian's, then 'fork' it over to form the next distro's branch? [11:49] which goes hand in hand for about half a release cycle and then gets into stabilization ... due to that stabilization phase our "unstable" diverges frome debians and requires a new snapshot at the beginning of the next release cacle [11:49] we fork the stable branch at release and then merge debian into that [11:49] *cycle [11:50] got it, thanks === dyfet` is now known as dyfet [11:57] ior3k: we don't have developer bandwidth to maintain a separate unstable as *well* as karmic; we did think about it early on, but decided against it [11:57] (indeed I was a proponent of a separate unstable, but was convinced otherwise) [11:59] cjwatson: makes sense, I guess everyone is mostly busy working on the *current* future stable version [11:59] cjwatson: thanks for the clarification === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:20] gah! dist-upgrade seems to have broken compiz. No window manager for me :-/ [12:21] there is that ancient metacity thingie ;) [12:21] right click doesn't work on the desktop and there is not gnome-panel [12:21] *no [12:22] doesnt actually sound like a windowmanager issue === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:58] Error: Descriptions do not match: <-- where in debbuild's world to those errors come from, I wonder? [13:03] are we expected to stick things (specifically, log files) in .cache these days? [13:04] or is it okay to hate the XDG base directory specification [13:07] evand1: You shouldn't use .cache name hard coded [13:07] slytherin: indeed, I was just doing that for brevity === ogra_ is now known as ogra === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:21] seb128, what valgrind command-line did you use to obtain the log you attached here https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/430722 [13:21] Launchpad bug 430722 in notify-osd "current version has invalid read errors under valgrind" [Undecided,New] [13:23] MacSlow, G_SLICE=always-malloc G_DEBUG=gc-friendly valgrind -v --tool=memcheck --leak-check=full --num-callers=38 /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd [13:24] MacSlow, why? [13:25] seb128, just wondering [13:25] MacSlow, you don't get the issue? [13:25] seb128, I added a possible fix and now try to reproduce it [13:26] ok [13:26] MacSlow, want me to try the fix? [13:26] seb128, would be cool... one sec [13:29] seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/272784 [13:29] seb128, if that fixes it, it would mean the purging of old bubbles is messed up [13:30] which would need further investigation [13:34] evand1: hm, now that you told me about /casper.log, the usb stick booted; I love race conditions :) [13:34] haha, hooray [13:35] I tried it three times before.. [13:35] I thought upstart was going to fix all boot race conditions, and give us ponies ;) [13:36] if you do manage to reproduce it at some point, a bug report with the casper log attached would be greatly appreciated [13:36] ponie races probably :) [13:36] *pony [13:36] haha [13:36] evand1: yes, should be easy to reproduce, I'll just try it a couple of more times [13:37] evand1: how does the USB stick booting work, is it "faked" to become /dev/sr0? [13:37] evand1: since it seems to loop over getting /dev/sr0 [13:40] * lamont finds his answer: mergechanges [13:44] lamont: I listened to your daughter on the radio last night. Would you please fix the IA64 chroots? [13:44] :-) [13:46] ScottK: the debian ones? [13:46] No, our buildds [13:46] so totally frustrated at those damn things [13:46] oh ours? what's b0rked? [13:46] (or did you do that already today) [13:46] (build log somewhere? or just any and all?) [13:46] chrootwait. [13:46] Any/All [13:46] ah, ok [13:47] ScottK: the necessary fix is to port dbus to ia64 [13:47] taking kids to school in about 2 seconds, will look at that once I'm back online [13:47] ouch [13:47] it's not something that can be fixed on the buildd side before that [13:47] look a couple of revisions back in dbus and you'll see the failure - missing clock_getres and clock_gettime IIRC [13:48] OK, that'll probably have to wait until after lamont takes his kids to school. [13:48] oh. that. nowI remember [13:50] where are those funcs defined on other architectures [13:50] pitti: lp:casper in scripts/casper, see find_livefs [14:05] ok, that's five minutes ... and nobody's pounced on me [14:05] * ogra pounces on Keybuk [14:05] just for fun [14:06] * Keybuk rolls around on the floor with ogra [14:06] cuddly :) [14:06] aaww [14:07] :-) [14:09] Keybuk: now, the question is, is that because there are no problems or is it the onset of despair? ;-) [14:09] cjwatson: that was exactly what I was thinking [14:09] but then I figured that either is a win === evand1 is now known as evand [14:10] now, onto the critical bugs [14:10] *why* has compiz lost all my key bindings *again* :-( === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [14:18] yay, finally; a working machine again [14:26] Keybuk: would you mind if I re-add the check for "text" to /etc/init/gdm.conf? It's quite useful for broken drivers and debugging [14:27] pitti, oh, please do ! [14:27] * ogra didnt know that was gone [14:27] how could I not, now? :-) [14:28] any ideas on how I can debug why usb autodetection is broken? It worked in alpha5 but updating yesterday broke it. [14:28] i often make use of it [14:28] pitti: check for text? [14:28] Keybuk: yes, in /proc/cmdline, like the old init script [14:28] Keybuk, gdm didnt start with text on cmdline [14:29] rgreening: usb drives? [14:29] its very helpful if you want to debug stuff [14:29] oh, I missed that [14:29]