| slangasek | any folks around yet to do a liveCD test for me? | 01:24 |
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| fader_ | slangasek: Yo | 01:25 |
| slangasek | fader_: hi | 01:25 |
| fader_ | slangasek: I'm volunteering for a liveCD test :) | 01:25 |
| slangasek | fader_: there'll be an ubuntu desktop ISO up for smoke testing in around 15 minutes | 01:25 |
| slangasek | fader_: care to give it a spin? | 01:25 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Sweet. I'd be happy to. | 01:25 |
| fader_ | Anything in particular to look out for, other than things like dbus not starting? ;) | 01:26 |
| slangasek | (it's not the final one for a6, I'm going to turn around and clobber it with another one that pulls in a ubiquity update right after - but it should fix the general "livefs no worky" bug) | 01:26 |
| fader_ | h | 01:26 |
| fader_ | Heh | 01:26 |
| slangasek | fader_: daily-live 20090917 | 01:43 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Roger. I realized I had deleted my local ubuntu-live iso to save space, so once the previous one finishes downloading I'll rsync up to that and kick it off. | 01:44 |
| slangasek | ok | 01:45 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Good news and bad news. The good news is that the live environment is working :) | 02:07 |
| fader_ | The bad news is that I always get ubiquity first | 02:07 |
| fader_ | "try ubuntu" -> ubiquity -> quit -> xsplash -> livecd | 02:07 |
| slangasek | fader_: yes, that's the bug being fixed in the next spin :) | 02:07 |
| fader_ | Ah, gotcha :) | 02:07 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Should I go ahead and perform an install as well? | 02:08 |
| slangasek | fader_: only if you're keen to - I'm not expecting any surprises there, at this point, so the energy would be better spent on the should-be-final images currently in the pipe | 02:08 |
| fader_ | slangasek: Gotcha. I'll play with it a bit but not push hard. | 02:10 |
| * fader_ starts testing ubuntu-alternate amd64 | 02:36 | |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|away | ||
| * ara takes i386 desktop full disk | 07:23 | |
| ara | (ubuntu) | 07:23 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 08:09 |
| sbeattie | heya davmor2 | 08:13 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: things are working then :) | 08:14 |
| sbeattie | yeah, for the most part. I still am unable to get a 32bit kubuntu guest to accept input from a 64bit karmic vbox host... doesn't matter if it's an install or livecd | 08:16 |
| ara | morning sbeattie, davmor2 | 08:29 |
| * ara takes i368 ubuntu desktop auto-resize | 08:31 | |
| * sbeattie is putzing with a xubuntu live session and trying to reproduce an oddity around alt+cryptolvm | 08:32 | |
| * davmor2 has to take wife off first and then will blitz everything cause they'll all of finished syncing then :) | 08:33 | |
| * ara steps out to grab a coffee while auto-resize is working | 08:45 | |
| ara | hello guys, anybody testing ubuntu? | 09:08 |
| ara | (live cd) | 09:08 |
| ara | I need to reproduce an issue | 09:08 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| sbeattie | ara: what issue? | 09:19 |
| ara | after installation, system starts correctly, but if you click on Reboot, at GDM screen, it has a problem with fsck | 09:19 |
| ara | <ara> Hey I got a strange issue on the ubuntu live cd (installation, full disk) | 09:20 |
| ara | It is only in a vbox instance, so I cannot know if it is reproducible in real hw | 09:20 |
| ara | but the issue is pretty bad | 09:20 |
| ara | installation finishes correctly, and I can log without problems | 09:20 |
| ara | but if I click on restart in the GDM screen, it does not restart properly | 09:20 |
| ara | http://imagebin.org/64197 | 09:20 |
| sbeattie | ara: hunh, I wouldn't have thought you would see that; virtualbox is exporting localtime to the guest, not UTC, but fully booted the hardware clock gets set correctly... until you reboot in vbox. | 09:23 |
| ara | sbeattie, I don't think I followed you | 09:24 |
| sbeattie | there used to be an ubuntu specific patch that caused fsck to ignore superblock times in the future, but that got discarded in the jaunty timeframe. | 09:24 |
| sbeattie | err, s/jaunty/karmic/ | 09:24 |
| ara | sbeattie, why it got discarded? | 09:26 |
| sbeattie | ara: I think, if you set UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS, you will no longer see that issue; it was happening to me on every shutdown/poweron cycle with virtualbox guests. | 09:26 |
| ara | sbeattie, so, it is a virtualbox only issue, isn't it? | 09:27 |
| ara | sbeattie, if I had hardware, I would test on hardware ;-) | 09:27 |
| sbeattie | ara: yes, at least if it's the same issue I've seen with virtualbox. | 09:27 |
| davmor2 | ara: superblock at a time in the future | 09:27 |
| ara | davmor2, do you get the issue in real hw? | 09:28 |
| davmor2 | ara: I did last night on oem install | 09:28 |
| ara | davmor2, ouch! | 09:29 |
| davmor2 | I'll look at it on hw in a second now I'm back | 09:29 |
| ara | davmor2, ok, thanks | 09:29 |
| ara | davmor2, https://launchpad.net/bugs/427822 | 09:29 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 427822 in linux "fsck says last write time in future" [Critical,Fix released] | 09:29 |
| ara | davmor2, the issue is supposed to be fixed, but if it is not... | 09:29 |
| sbeattie | ara: what's odd is that your localtime is ahead of UTC, so the superblock timestamp should be in the past. | 09:29 |
| * davmor2 So LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!! | 09:29 | |
| sbeattie | ara: do you see it if you shutdown the vbox guest cleanly and then restart it (not just reboot)? | 09:30 |
| ara | sbeattie, no, only rebooting | 09:30 |
| sbeattie | so if you reboot again, you see it again? | 09:31 |
| ara | sbeattie, yes, every time I reboot | 09:32 |
| davmor2 | Music meastro | 09:32 |
| ara | sbeattie, time is 9:46UTC, which it is false, it was 8:46 at that time | 09:33 |
| ara | 9:46UTC is 11:48CEST, and now it is 10:30CEST | 09:33 |
| sbeattie | ara: does date on your host return the correct CEST time? | 09:35 |
| sbeattie | (host, not the guest) | 09:36 |
| ara | sbeattie, yes | 09:36 |
| ara | sbeattie, both guest and host return the correct one | 09:36 |
| * davmor2 wubi on Ubuntu 64bit this will test it | 09:37 | |
| davmor2 | ara: other thing to try is is reboot say 5 times normally and see if you get the fsck bug then | 09:38 |
| ara | davmor2, yes, I get the bug every tiime I reboot | 09:39 |
| davmor2 | ara: you using vm | 09:39 |
| ara | davmor2, yes, vbox | 09:40 |
| sbeattie | wacky. you'd expect the superblock to be two hours off, not one. | 09:41 |
| davmor2 | that could be why | 09:41 |
| * davmor2 says a small prayer to the Ubuntu iso god let it work please | 09:42 | |
| davmor2 | damn it so close so far | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | wubi fails yet again | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | :( | 10:07 |
| davmor2 | but at least it installed this time :) | 10:08 |
| davmor2 | ara: are you working on a live cd install at all? | 10:42 |
| ara | davmor2, yes, why? | 10:43 |
| davmor2 | ara: have you done the install from ubuntu test yet? | 10:43 |
| davmor2 | install ubuntu even | 10:43 |
| ara | full disk | 10:52 |
| ara | davmor2, | 10:52 |
| ara | davmor2, I am trying to do now the auto-resize | 10:52 |
| ara | davmor2, but I am getting an error, can you try something for me? | 10:53 |
| ara | davmor2, it won't take long :) | 10:53 |
| davmor2 | ara: does it say it can't partition it due to an fsck error by any chance :) | 10:53 |
| davmor2 | ara go on | 10:54 |
| ara | davmor2, yes, it does. but only auto-resizing from ext3 | 10:54 |
| ara | so I have hardy on ext3, then I try to auto-resize | 10:54 |
| ara | and it fails | 10:54 |
| ara | davmor2, what about you? | 10:54 |
| davmor2 | not tried that but I got it on a resize I did last night | 10:55 |
| ara | davmor2, grrr, I get the same thing | 10:55 |
| davmor2 | but that was on ext4 karmic | 10:55 |
| ara | davmor2, did you file anything? | 10:55 |
| ara | davmor2, a bug, I mean | 10:55 |
| davmor2 | ara: No I was looking into it when one of the other installs died :( | 10:56 |
| ara | davmor2, OK, can you quickly check that? | 10:56 |
| ara | davmor2, if you get that as well, we should be filling a bug and telling slangasek | 10:56 |
| davmor2 | will do after I see if wubi-r153.exe fixes wubi | 10:56 |
| davmor2 | tell him and cjwatson anyway I think then we can look into after | 10:57 |
| davmor2 | I told them about 23:30 last night and everyone had pretty much lost the will to live by then | 10:58 |
| ara | :) | 10:58 |
| ara | davmor2, if I ctrl+alt+f1 during an ubiquity installation, what's login/password to have a shell? | 10:59 |
| ara | davmor2, I just remembered | 10:59 |
| ara | davmor2, ubuntu/blank | 10:59 |
| ara | davmor2, nevermind | 10:59 |
| davmor2 | :) | 10:59 |
| ara | davmor2, OK, it is the same thing, last check of the system happened in the future, which is not true!!! | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | yes that's what I had I rebooted into the normal system ran fsck manually and then tried again and it worked if I recall | 11:04 |
| * ara still thinks that's not the way it should be ;-) | 11:05 | |
| * ara reboots, brb | 11:06 | |
| * ara believes this is not going to be a good idea, but, anyway... | 11:07 | |
| ara | schwuk, what are you testing now? | 11:17 |
| schwuk | i386 auto-resize | 11:17 |
| ara | schwuk, same as me, how does it go so far? | 11:17 |
| ara | schwuk, did you get an error resizing? | 11:17 |
| schwuk | ara: only just booted the virtual machine :) | 11:18 |
| ara | schwuk, | 11:18 |
| ara | schwuk, ok | 11:18 |
| schwuk | ara: then I'm going to do some of the amd64 ones | 11:18 |
| ara | schwuk, can you please, stay with the i386 just until the autopart checks the exisiting file system? | 11:18 |
| ara | schwuk, to see if you get the error too? | 11:19 |
| * ara prepares a usb stick to test on her current machine, just to see if it is reproducible in real hw | 11:26 | |
| * ara reboots and test on her machine | 11:32 | |
| davmor2 | ara: I'm with you | 11:55 |
| davmor2 | I don't think it should do that | 11:55 |
| natureshadow | hi there | 12:00 |
| natureshadow | Is there anybody else who, as of yesterday, cannot update their package lists because the checksums of the main karmic repo are wrong? | 12:01 |
| davmor2 | no but then I've been installing a fresh by the minute | 12:03 |
| natureshadow | In any case, how do I get this problem solved? I already flushed the local package list store with no effect | 12:14 |
| schwuk | ara: no obvious errors when re-sizing :) | 12:16 |
| ara | schwuk, nice, lucky you ;-) | 12:17 |
| natureshadow | I wonder whether Canonical considers it a fun thing breaking my USB hard drive :/ ..... | 12:18 |
| * ara takes i386 desktop free software only | 12:25 | |
| davmor2 | schwuk: what you re-sizing against? | 12:28 |
| ara | schwuk, do you get the different grub2 entries when done? | 12:29 |
| davmor2 | ara: I did for linux and xp but not vista has this changed for the worst as well? | 12:30 |
| ara | well, I tried for linux, and I only got the first entry, I wanted to retest, but then the resizing issue started to happen... | 12:31 |
| schwuk | davmor2: another Karmic install - I'm building a Windows 7 VM to test against | 12:32 |
| davmor2 | schwuk: did you set utc=no on the karmic install? | 12:32 |
| schwuk | davmor2: no | 12:33 |
| davmor2 | meh so I get on hw ara gets it on vm and you, you jammie git don't get it at all.. Life isn't fair ;) | 12:33 |
| * ara -> lunch | 12:38 | |
| * davmor2 takes kubuntu | 12:40 | |
| davmor2 | morning fader|away I thought I'd get this over and done with things am still broke :( | 13:07 |
| * davmor2 lunch | 13:08 | |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| fader_ | davmor2: :( | 13:55 |
| fader_ | I'm in the Lexington office today so I'll have access to some real hardware for testing, especially netbooks | 13:56 |
| ara | davmor2, are you aware that ogasawara replied to your "double speed" bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/430940 | 14:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430940 in linux "On my nvidia box the system is running at double speed" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:06 |
| davmor2 | ara: yes but I need to get the testing out of the way before I can spend all day playing with kernel images, it's bad enough spending most of it reporting bugs :( | 14:07 |
| ara | davmor2, indeed | 14:07 |
| davmor2 | ara: already arranged to look at it with ogasawara tomorrow as long as the testing doesn't spill over | 14:08 |
| ara | davmor2, cool | 14:08 |
| schwuk | ara, davmor2: resize isn't working here after all - on a Windows 7 VM, after install there's no windows entry in GRUB | 14:20 |
| ara | schwuk, ok, so you got the grub issue as well. schwuk, can you file that as a separate bug, please? | 14:21 |
| davmor2 | schwuk: same as vista. Need to get that fixed work on xp but I spend 20 minutes getting up | 14:21 |
| schwuk | ara: will do | 14:21 |
| schwuk | ara: report against grub or ubiquity? | 14:22 |
| ara | schwuk, good question ;-). I would report against ubiquity and let cjwatson reassign if necessary | 14:22 |
| davmor2 | schwuk: cjwatson will want a new bug for it but if you put in it that it could be similar to bug 430141 | 14:22 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 430141 in grub2 "Vista is not showing up in grub2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430141 | 14:22 |
| davmor2 | schwuk: grub2 | 14:23 |
| ara | davmor2, have you tried kubuntu? | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | yes running it now | 15:37 |
| ara | davmor2, do your shutdown or reboot buttons work? | 15:37 |
| davmor2 | yeap | 15:37 |
| ara | davmor2, mine don't :D | 15:38 |
| davmor2 | I figured from the question | 15:38 |
| fader_ | Heh | 15:38 |
| ara | davmor2, clever guy :D | 15:38 |
| davmor2 | I've been called clever before but it was never followed by guy :D | 15:39 |
| ara | davmor2, do you know if they are going to respin? | 16:34 |
| davmor2 | ara: I'm assuming not why? | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | no body has mentioned it | 16:35 |
| ara | davmor2, ok, just wondering | 16:35 |
| ara | davmor2, because of the clock issues | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | it will probably all be errata at this point | 16:35 |
| davmor2 | ara the clock issue has gone for me now I'm not using the nvidia box | 16:36 |
| davmor2 | so I'm assuming it was due to the clock going at double time under linux | 16:36 |
| * davmor2 moves onto kubuntu alternate | 16:56 | |
| davmor2 | oem is borked | 16:56 |
| jcastro | Hi everyone: Feedback on this appreciated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EC2 | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | jcastro: not tested it. It might be worth running it past the server team | 17:04 |
| jcastro | nod | 17:05 |
| asac | hi | 17:16 |
| davmor2 | hello asac | 17:16 |
| asac | anyone has hardy or intrepid or jaunty and can check what happens if you run "xdg-open apt:firefox" ;) | 17:17 |
| asac | hi davmor2 | 17:17 |
| davmor2 | hahahahahahahahahahahahahah not a prayer today dude | 17:17 |
| === marjomercado is now known as marjo | ||
| fraser_m | Is it possible to dualboot Karmic and Jaunty? | 19:34 |
| jtholmes | seems like we are going in circles bug in present on the 15th, gone on the 16, back on the 17th yikes!! :( | 21:23 |
| jtholmes | in=is | 21:23 |
| davmor2 | jtholmes: fixing one thing is breaking another. Really this stuff could of done with going in last week so it could of been tested safely | 21:27 |
| jtholmes | yeah wild times this release i know it is putting a strain on the developers and paid testers :( | 21:28 |
| jtholmes | and cjwatson is probably not real happy, either ;( | 21:30 |
| davmor2 | no one is to be honest | 21:34 |
| jtholmes | given the odds this has to happen every now and then, and this is now | 21:36 |
| davmor2 | it's bad that it is this fubar this close to beta. But then on a plus side it's not beta yet so there is time to tweak stuff. Not a lot of time but time :) | 21:37 |
| fader_ | Much better now than, say, RC :) | 21:38 |
| davmor2 | marjo: what's that bug number that mdz wanted checking I've got clear system now so I can check it | 21:38 |
| marjo | davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/43706 | 21:39 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 43706 in casper "Excessive memory usage on live CD" [Low,Fix released] | 21:39 |
| jtholmes | fader_, yes better now | 21:40 |
| davmor2 | fader_: there still a week then day of release surely is what you meant to say ;) | 21:41 |
| fader_ | davmor2: Let me borrow that axe ;) | 21:42 |
| jtholmes | davmor2, fader_ you two keep me laughing over your antics | 21:42 |
| davmor2 | fader_: No only room for one insane axe wielding maniac and I got the ticket | 21:42 |
| fader_ | Oh, I'm not a maniac. I'm quite sane. | 21:43 |
| * fader_ twitches. | 21:43 | |
| * davmor2 no I'm not killing fader_ he's my friend, shut up, get out of my head, NO! I'm not listening | 21:45 | |
| fader_ | davmor2: Oh man, you hear those voices too? They must be extra loud today. | 21:47 |
| davmor2 | who said that you apologise now, go on say sorry | 21:49 |
| davmor2 | hey fader_ how the mad world for machine testing? | 21:51 |
| fader_ | davmor2: It's looking pretty decent overall. A couple of netbooks don't seem to want to record from their internal mics, but other than that life is good | 21:51 |
| fader_ | Well, at least for the hardware I can find. Tracking down what needs tested is a full-time job itself :/ | 21:51 |
| * fader_ is going to superglue all the hardware to heavy blocks so it can't move far or fast. | 21:52 | |
| davmor2 | fader_: don't do it you know the voices will make you drop them out the window for the butter up/down test | 21:53 |
| fader_ | Ubuntu Karmic Koala: Now 70% more likely to land butter-side up! | 21:53 |
| davmor2 | :) | 21:54 |
| fader_ | My ride's leaving the office... afk for a while. davmor2, do you guys need me to help hit up the mythbuntu tests when I get home? | 22:06 |
| davmor2 | can do more the merrier | 22:07 |
| fader_ | Roger... I'll watch some TV^W^W^Wdo some tests soon then. | 22:08 |
| === fader_ is now known as fader|away | ||
| davmor2 | night night all | 23:26 |
| * fader|away is back on the air. | 23:43 | |
| === fader|away is now known as fader_ | ||
| fader_ | Grabbing amd64 mythbuntu image to start testing | 23:44 |
| Daviey | fader_: great, thanks | 23:44 |
| fader_ | Daviey: How did the i386 images look? Anything I should look out for? | 23:47 |
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