[01:24] any folks around yet to do a liveCD test for me? [01:25] slangasek: Yo [01:25] fader_: hi [01:25] slangasek: I'm volunteering for a liveCD test :) [01:25] fader_: there'll be an ubuntu desktop ISO up for smoke testing in around 15 minutes [01:25] fader_: care to give it a spin? [01:25] slangasek: Sweet. I'd be happy to. [01:26] Anything in particular to look out for, other than things like dbus not starting? ;) [01:26] (it's not the final one for a6, I'm going to turn around and clobber it with another one that pulls in a ubiquity update right after - but it should fix the general "livefs no worky" bug) [01:26] h [01:26] Heh [01:43] fader_: daily-live 20090917 [01:44] slangasek: Roger. I realized I had deleted my local ubuntu-live iso to save space, so once the previous one finishes downloading I'll rsync up to that and kick it off. [01:45] ok [02:07] slangasek: Good news and bad news. The good news is that the live environment is working :) [02:07] The bad news is that I always get ubiquity first [02:07] "try ubuntu" -> ubiquity -> quit -> xsplash -> livecd [02:07] fader_: yes, that's the bug being fixed in the next spin :) [02:07] Ah, gotcha :) [02:08] slangasek: Should I go ahead and perform an install as well? [02:08] fader_: only if you're keen to - I'm not expecting any surprises there, at this point, so the energy would be better spent on the should-be-final images currently in the pipe [02:10] slangasek: Gotcha. I'll play with it a bit but not push hard. [02:36] * fader_ starts testing ubuntu-alternate amd64 === fader_ is now known as fader|away [07:23] * ara takes i386 desktop full disk [07:23] (ubuntu) [08:09] Morning all [08:13] heya davmor2 [08:14] sbeattie: things are working then :) [08:16] yeah, for the most part. I still am unable to get a 32bit kubuntu guest to accept input from a 64bit karmic vbox host... doesn't matter if it's an install or livecd [08:29] morning sbeattie, davmor2 [08:31] * ara takes i368 ubuntu desktop auto-resize [08:32] * sbeattie is putzing with a xubuntu live session and trying to reproduce an oddity around alt+cryptolvm [08:33] * davmor2 has to take wife off first and then will blitz everything cause they'll all of finished syncing then :) [08:45] * ara steps out to grab a coffee while auto-resize is working [09:08] hello guys, anybody testing ubuntu? [09:08] (live cd) [09:08] I need to reproduce an issue === asac_ is now known as asac [09:19] ara: what issue? [09:19] after installation, system starts correctly, but if you click on Reboot, at GDM screen, it has a problem with fsck [09:20] Hey I got a strange issue on the ubuntu live cd (installation, full disk) [09:20] It is only in a vbox instance, so I cannot know if it is reproducible in real hw [09:20] but the issue is pretty bad [09:20] installation finishes correctly, and I can log without problems [09:20] but if I click on restart in the GDM screen, it does not restart properly [09:20] http://imagebin.org/64197 [09:23] ara: hunh, I wouldn't have thought you would see that; virtualbox is exporting localtime to the guest, not UTC, but fully booted the hardware clock gets set correctly... until you reboot in vbox. [09:24] sbeattie, I don't think I followed you [09:24] there used to be an ubuntu specific patch that caused fsck to ignore superblock times in the future, but that got discarded in the jaunty timeframe. [09:24] err, s/jaunty/karmic/ [09:26] sbeattie, why it got discarded? [09:26] ara: I think, if you set UTC=no in /etc/default/rcS, you will no longer see that issue; it was happening to me on every shutdown/poweron cycle with virtualbox guests. [09:27] sbeattie, so, it is a virtualbox only issue, isn't it? [09:27] sbeattie, if I had hardware, I would test on hardware ;-) [09:27] ara: yes, at least if it's the same issue I've seen with virtualbox. [09:27] ara: superblock at a time in the future [09:28] davmor2, do you get the issue in real hw? [09:28] ara: I did last night on oem install [09:29] davmor2, ouch! [09:29] I'll look at it on hw in a second now I'm back [09:29] davmor2, ok, thanks [09:29] davmor2, https://launchpad.net/bugs/427822 [09:29] Launchpad bug 427822 in linux "fsck says last write time in future" [Critical,Fix released] [09:29] davmor2, the issue is supposed to be fixed, but if it is not... [09:29] ara: what's odd is that your localtime is ahead of UTC, so the superblock timestamp should be in the past. [09:29] * davmor2 So LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!! [09:30] ara: do you see it if you shutdown the vbox guest cleanly and then restart it (not just reboot)? [09:30] sbeattie, no, only rebooting [09:31] so if you reboot again, you see it again? [09:32] sbeattie, yes, every time I reboot [09:32] Music meastro [09:33] sbeattie, time is 9:46UTC, which it is false, it was 8:46 at that time [09:33] 9:46UTC is 11:48CEST, and now it is 10:30CEST [09:35] ara: does date on your host return the correct CEST time? [09:36] (host, not the guest) [09:36] sbeattie, yes [09:36] sbeattie, both guest and host return the correct one [09:37] * davmor2 wubi on Ubuntu 64bit this will test it [09:38] ara: other thing to try is is reboot say 5 times normally and see if you get the fsck bug then [09:39] davmor2, yes, I get the bug every tiime I reboot [09:39] ara: you using vm [09:40] davmor2, yes, vbox [09:41] wacky. you'd expect the superblock to be two hours off, not one. [09:41] that could be why [09:42] * davmor2 says a small prayer to the Ubuntu iso god let it work please [10:07] damn it so close so far [10:07] wubi fails yet again [10:07] :( [10:08] but at least it installed this time :) [10:42] ara: are you working on a live cd install at all? [10:43] davmor2, yes, why? [10:43] ara: have you done the install from ubuntu test yet? [10:43] install ubuntu even [10:52] full disk [10:52] davmor2, [10:52] davmor2, I am trying to do now the auto-resize [10:53] davmor2, but I am getting an error, can you try something for me? [10:53] davmor2, it won't take long :) [10:53] ara: does it say it can't partition it due to an fsck error by any chance :) [10:54] ara go on [10:54] davmor2, yes, it does. but only auto-resizing from ext3 [10:54] so I have hardy on ext3, then I try to auto-resize [10:54] and it fails [10:54] davmor2, what about you? [10:55] not tried that but I got it on a resize I did last night [10:55] davmor2, grrr, I get the same thing [10:55] but that was on ext4 karmic [10:55] davmor2, did you file anything? [10:55] davmor2, a bug, I mean [10:56] ara: No I was looking into it when one of the other installs died :( [10:56] davmor2, OK, can you quickly check that? [10:56] davmor2, if you get that as well, we should be filling a bug and telling slangasek [10:56] will do after I see if wubi-r153.exe fixes wubi [10:57] tell him and cjwatson anyway I think then we can look into after [10:58] I told them about 23:30 last night and everyone had pretty much lost the will to live by then [10:58] :) [10:59] davmor2, if I ctrl+alt+f1 during an ubiquity installation, what's login/password to have a shell? [10:59] davmor2, I just remembered [10:59] davmor2, ubuntu/blank [10:59] davmor2, nevermind [10:59] :) [11:02] davmor2, OK, it is the same thing, last check of the system happened in the future, which is not true!!! [11:04] yes that's what I had I rebooted into the normal system ran fsck manually and then tried again and it worked if I recall [11:05] * ara still thinks that's not the way it should be ;-) [11:06] * ara reboots, brb [11:07] * ara believes this is not going to be a good idea, but, anyway... [11:17] schwuk, what are you testing now? [11:17] i386 auto-resize [11:17] schwuk, same as me, how does it go so far? [11:17] schwuk, did you get an error resizing? [11:18] ara: only just booted the virtual machine :) [11:18] schwuk, [11:18] schwuk, ok [11:18] ara: then I'm going to do some of the amd64 ones [11:18] schwuk, can you please, stay with the i386 just until the autopart checks the exisiting file system? [11:19] schwuk, to see if you get the error too? [11:26] * ara prepares a usb stick to test on her current machine, just to see if it is reproducible in real hw [11:32] * ara reboots and test on her machine [11:55] ara: I'm with you [11:55] I don't think it should do that [12:00] hi there [12:01] Is there anybody else who, as of yesterday, cannot update their package lists because the checksums of the main karmic repo are wrong? [12:03] no but then I've been installing a fresh by the minute [12:14] In any case, how do I get this problem solved? I already flushed the local package list store with no effect [12:16] ara: no obvious errors when re-sizing :) [12:17] schwuk, nice, lucky you ;-) [12:18] I wonder whether Canonical considers it a fun thing breaking my USB hard drive :/ ..... [12:25] * ara takes i386 desktop free software only [12:28] schwuk: what you re-sizing against? [12:29] schwuk, do you get the different grub2 entries when done? [12:30] ara: I did for linux and xp but not vista has this changed for the worst as well? [12:31] well, I tried for linux, and I only got the first entry, I wanted to retest, but then the resizing issue started to happen... [12:32] davmor2: another Karmic install - I'm building a Windows 7 VM to test against [12:32] schwuk: did you set utc=no on the karmic install? [12:33] davmor2: no [12:33] meh so I get on hw ara gets it on vm and you, you jammie git don't get it at all.. Life isn't fair ;) [12:38] * ara -> lunch [12:40] * davmor2 takes kubuntu [13:07] morning fader|away I thought I'd get this over and done with things am still broke :( [13:08] * davmor2 lunch === fader|away is now known as fader_ [13:55] davmor2: :( [13:56] I'm in the Lexington office today so I'll have access to some real hardware for testing, especially netbooks [14:06] davmor2, are you aware that ogasawara replied to your "double speed" bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/430940 [14:06] Launchpad bug 430940 in linux "On my nvidia box the system is running at double speed" [Undecided,Incomplete] [14:07] ara: yes but I need to get the testing out of the way before I can spend all day playing with kernel images, it's bad enough spending most of it reporting bugs :( [14:07] davmor2, indeed [14:08] ara: already arranged to look at it with ogasawara tomorrow as long as the testing doesn't spill over [14:08] davmor2, cool [14:20] ara, davmor2: resize isn't working here after all - on a Windows 7 VM, after install there's no windows entry in GRUB [14:21] schwuk, ok, so you got the grub issue as well. schwuk, can you file that as a separate bug, please? [14:21] schwuk: same as vista. Need to get that fixed work on xp but I spend 20 minutes getting up [14:21] ara: will do [14:22] ara: report against grub or ubiquity? [14:22] schwuk, good question ;-). I would report against ubiquity and let cjwatson reassign if necessary [14:22] schwuk: cjwatson will want a new bug for it but if you put in it that it could be similar to bug 430141 [14:22] Launchpad bug 430141 in grub2 "Vista is not showing up in grub2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430141 [14:23] schwuk: grub2 [15:37] davmor2, have you tried kubuntu? [15:37] yes running it now [15:37] davmor2, do your shutdown or reboot buttons work? [15:37] yeap [15:38] davmor2, mine don't :D [15:38] I figured from the question [15:38] Heh [15:38] davmor2, clever guy :D [15:39] I've been called clever before but it was never followed by guy :D [16:34] davmor2, do you know if they are going to respin? [16:35] ara: I'm assuming not why? [16:35] no body has mentioned it [16:35] davmor2, ok, just wondering [16:35] davmor2, because of the clock issues [16:35] it will probably all be errata at this point [16:36] ara the clock issue has gone for me now I'm not using the nvidia box [16:36] so I'm assuming it was due to the clock going at double time under linux [16:56] * davmor2 moves onto kubuntu alternate [16:56] oem is borked [17:03] Hi everyone: Feedback on this appreciated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EC2 [17:04] jcastro: not tested it. It might be worth running it past the server team [17:05] nod [17:16] hi [17:16] hello asac [17:17] anyone has hardy or intrepid or jaunty and can check what happens if you run "xdg-open apt:firefox" ;) [17:17] hi davmor2 [17:17] hahahahahahahahahahahahahah not a prayer today dude === marjomercado is now known as marjo [19:34] Is it possible to dualboot Karmic and Jaunty? [21:23] seems like we are going in circles bug in present on the 15th, gone on the 16, back on the 17th yikes!! :( [21:23] in=is [21:27] jtholmes: fixing one thing is breaking another. Really this stuff could of done with going in last week so it could of been tested safely [21:28] yeah wild times this release i know it is putting a strain on the developers and paid testers :( [21:30] and cjwatson is probably not real happy, either ;( [21:34] no one is to be honest [21:36] given the odds this has to happen every now and then, and this is now [21:37] it's bad that it is this fubar this close to beta. But then on a plus side it's not beta yet so there is time to tweak stuff. Not a lot of time but time :) [21:38] Much better now than, say, RC :) [21:38] marjo: what's that bug number that mdz wanted checking I've got clear system now so I can check it [21:39] davmor2: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/43706 [21:39] Launchpad bug 43706 in casper "Excessive memory usage on live CD" [Low,Fix released] [21:40] fader_, yes better now [21:41] fader_: there still a week then day of release surely is what you meant to say ;) [21:42] davmor2: Let me borrow that axe ;) [21:42] davmor2, fader_ you two keep me laughing over your antics [21:42] fader_: No only room for one insane axe wielding maniac and I got the ticket [21:43] Oh, I'm not a maniac. I'm quite sane. [21:43] * fader_ twitches. [21:45] * davmor2 no I'm not killing fader_ he's my friend, shut up, get out of my head, NO! I'm not listening [21:47] davmor2: Oh man, you hear those voices too? They must be extra loud today. [21:49] who said that you apologise now, go on say sorry [21:51] hey fader_ how the mad world for machine testing? [21:51] davmor2: It's looking pretty decent overall. A couple of netbooks don't seem to want to record from their internal mics, but other than that life is good [21:51] Well, at least for the hardware I can find. Tracking down what needs tested is a full-time job itself :/ [21:52] * fader_ is going to superglue all the hardware to heavy blocks so it can't move far or fast. [21:53] fader_: don't do it you know the voices will make you drop them out the window for the butter up/down test [21:53] Ubuntu Karmic Koala: Now 70% more likely to land butter-side up! [21:54] :) [22:06] My ride's leaving the office... afk for a while. davmor2, do you guys need me to help hit up the mythbuntu tests when I get home? [22:07] can do more the merrier [22:08] Roger... I'll watch some TV^W^W^Wdo some tests soon then. === fader_ is now known as fader|away [23:26] night night all [23:43] * fader|away is back on the air. === fader|away is now known as fader_ [23:44] Grabbing amd64 mythbuntu image to start testing [23:44] fader_: great, thanks [23:47] Daviey: How did the i386 images look? Anything I should look out for?