[00:00] <Flannel> FromTheInside: /join #ubuntu-fr
[00:00] <qwerkus> FromTheInside: oui mais c est un chan anglais
[00:01] <FromTheInside> thanks Flannel :)
[00:01] <Blizzerand> hmmm guess everyones's off to sleep
[00:02] <FromTheInside> qwerkus salut, j'suis un peu en gal├©re ├Ā vrai dire
[00:02]  * FromTheInside premi├©re utilisation linux et xchat :x
[00:02] <qwerkus> FromTheInside: ok: envoie un message prive pour ne pas polluer le chan
[00:08] <jcp> erUSUL: I tried that, and now my screen resolution is even smaller (640x480)
[00:09] <erUSUL> jcp: run ┬½ gksudo nvidia-settings ┬╗
[00:09] <jcp> yeah, tried that. I can't find anywhere on there where it lets you change screen resolution
[00:09] <khelvan> Is there a support channel for mencoder?
[00:11] <wilber> hello!!
[00:11] <Carey> Hey there.
[00:11] <erUSUL> jcp: X server Display Configuration
[00:11] <erUSUL> jcp: the second entry on the right column
[00:11] <media`> Im having a weird issue
[00:12] <media`> Im trying to use imgburn in wine, and it cant find any devices
[00:12] <erUSUL> jcp: left side
[00:12] <qwerkus> khelvan: i think they run a mailing list
[00:12] <media`> went into wine config, and drive is detected
[00:12] <qwerkus> khelvan: #mplayer-dev is for developpers only
[00:12] <media`> still no go
[00:12] <erUSUL> jcp: when done click on Save to X configuration file
[00:13] <alokito> media`: are u trying to burn a disk image?
[00:13] <media`> yeah, .dvd file
[00:13] <ingenioushax> How can you make a *.tar.gz2 file an executable?
[00:13] <media`> and image
[00:13] <alokito> media`: linux has nice app to burn dvd
[00:13] <alokito> why not try them?
[00:13] <erUSUL> ingenioushax: you can not. that is basically a zip file
[00:14] <qwerkus>  ingenioushax: why would you want to do that ?
[00:14] <Blizzerand> ingenioushax ; Or do you mean uncompress it
[00:14] <ingenioushax> Yeah.
[00:14] <erUSUL> ingenioushax: what are you trying to do ?
[00:14] <media`> This type of disk has to use imgburn
[00:14] <media`> image I mean, not disk
[00:14] <media`> well its the easiest way anyways
[00:14] <Blizzerand> ingenioushax : Right click and click extract here , thats all , it should all be in a folder
[00:14] <alokito> media`: hmm, ok... still check in k3b and see if it works
[00:14] <cokecan42> does anyone know how to get pigin started?
[00:14] <ingenioushax> Blizzerand: Thanks, ill try it out
[00:15] <qwerkus> cokecan42: it is piDgin
[00:15] <alokito> cokecan42: Alt+F2 pidgin
[00:15] <boscop> oh no. zattoo is no longer supported on linux :(
[00:15] <cokecan42> iv been unable to use it, but I was able to use this, Xchat
[00:17] <alokito> cokecan42: u want to use irc in pidgin?
[00:17] <Blizzerand> cokecan42 : try empathy , people much get confused on using pidGin , to install sudo apt-get install empathy
[00:18] <khelvan> qwerkus - Thanks, I'm looking for help on how to do something in mencoder that I would normally do in ffmpeg (transcode/remux)
[00:18] <cokecan42> empathy is in add ons?
[00:18] <kudi1> whats a simple pdf reader i can install
[00:18] <rainy-day> hi, my ps/2 keyboard stopped working, I'm sure a reboot will fix that, but is there anything i can try to fix it without reboot?
[00:18] <alokito> cokecan42: empathy is a different im client
[00:18] <DopeGhoti>  rainy-day have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[00:18] <alokito> but I prefer pidgin
[00:19] <cokecan42> ok
[00:19] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: yep tried that
[00:19] <Blizzerand> !pdf
[00:19] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: Sumb question, but are you sure you're plugging it into the keyboard, and not the mouse, PS/2 port?
[00:20] <Blizzerand> !pdf|kudi1
[00:20] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: yep, it worked just a few hours ago, the problem is I think I pressed many keys at once for a few minutes..
[00:20] <kudi1> thanks
[00:20] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: is it in a terminal?  Try ctrl-Q
[00:20] <kudi1> any1 ever read the 48 laws of power?
[00:20] <KB1JWQ> !ot | kudi1
[00:20] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: my usb keyboard also stopped working but after unplugging it, it works now
[00:21] <qwerkus>  khelvan: I would first try to google around: there are lots of goods tuts about mencoder. And than try the mailing list: it is not as fast as irc, but I can really help you out !
[00:21] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: no it's not in a terminal, it's on the same system I'm using now to type, in X
[00:21] <jcp> erUSUL: ok, checked there, it has "auto", "640x480", and "320x240"
[00:22] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: Hmm.  Sorry, I'm out of ideas for the moment.
[00:22] <DopeGhoti> rainy-day: are the -Lock keys responsive (in terms of the indicators on the keyboard) at all?
[00:22] <Blizzerand> !gok
[00:23] <rainy-day> DopeGhoti: no those keys are not responsive either.. numlock light is on but won't turn off
[00:23] <lyrae> Is there a way to allow bold/italics/color/ text formating in gedit?
[00:24] <dsdeiz> hello, anyone here using dwm? how do i configure it if i get it from the repo?
[00:24] <Blizzerand> !dwn
[00:24] <DopeGhoti> lyrae: gedit is a text esitor, not a text processor, so no.
[00:24] <Blizzerand> !dwm
[00:24] <dsdeiz> !info dwm
[00:24] <lyrae> DopeGhoti: alright
[00:26] <lookyaso> he all i am connecting to a Ubuntu box from XP using VNC however when click on an applications no action is observed from the XP end, however the activity is actually taking place on the ubuntu box real time (hope that makes sense) any ideas why this might be happening?
[00:27] <ndrwc> Can someone explain what the point of backports and updates are?
[00:27] <LjL> ndrwc: having updated packages, i guess?
[00:27] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : Not as a virtual machine , right
[00:27] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: no
[00:27] <ndrwc> LjL, one would think so... so why am I being told "sorry you can't get updates you'll have to use a PPA"?
[00:28] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: that is you are correct
[00:29] <LjL> ndrwc: i don't know, but i know that Updates only carries fixes to serious bugs, and Backports only carries end-user packages which are unlikely to break anything else when installed and which are in the next (development) version
[00:29] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : hmm nevr had any of such probs
[00:29] <DopeGhoti> ndrwc: what are you trying to get updates for?
[00:29] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: i can see my ubuntu desktop but when i click on Applications it does not drop down but on the actual ubuntu box it drooped
[00:30] <ndrwc> LjL, DopeGhoti so if a package has been updated for Karmic one could expect it to be backported to Jaunty? it's the nvidia drivers
[00:30] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: dropped* thanks anyway
[00:31] <Ryiel> Hey, any idea what i should install to get firefox to play youtube videos?
[00:31] <LjL> ndrwc: no, not necessaily. a video driver is hardly an end-user package that's unlikely to break other stuff (actually, quite the contrary)
[00:31] <acwilan> hi, anyone has installed somehow internet explorer in ubuntu? I am a Web developer and need to test my sites on FF/IE/Safari/Opera/Chrome
[00:32] <ndrwc> LjL, but it's a system-critical package and the manufacturer has released a new version to fix critical bugs
[00:32] <kazzy> acwilan: "ies4linux" can possibly do it, but it doesn't seem to work with modern IE versions
[00:32] <LjL> ndrwc: if anything, that will end up in Updates.
[00:32] <acwilan> @kazzy thanks... i'll check it out
[00:33] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : try updating ubuntu system first
[00:33] <ndrwc> LjL, ok, wherever. Is there a page somewhere which explains the difference between backports and updates and whatever?
[00:33] <bigjocker> acwilan, i use ies4linux to install most of IE versions without issue
[00:33] <LjL> ndrwc: i have just explained it, but yes
[00:33] <Blizzerand> lookyaso : Can you do that
[00:33] <LjL> !repositoies | ndrwc
[00:33] <PotterT|VF> any one happen to know how can I switch off compiz in jaunty via a ssh terminal and make it affect a currently running desktop session?
[00:33] <LjL> !repositories | ndrwc
[00:33] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: fresh install
[00:34] <lookyaso> Blizzerand: i am all updated
[00:34] <DopeGhoti> If I wanted to poke around in Karmic in a VM, which VM infrastructure would be a good one to use?
[00:34] <Pici> DopeGhoti : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:34] <PotterT|VF> DopeGhoti: vbox
[00:34] <bigjocker> DopeGhoti, virtualbox
[00:34] <ndrwc> LjL, so where do PPAs fit in?
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: PPA is just a personal tool for building one's own packages.
[00:35] <ndrwc> they seem completely out of that loop
[00:35] <bigjocker> DopeGhoti, ubuntu runs quite well in virtualbox
[00:35] <DopeGhoti> PotterT|VF, bigjocker: thanks. Pici: Jaunty is my host OS, so it counts here too ;)
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: whether you want to use someone else's PPA for some reason, well, that's entirely at your own risk
[00:35] <ndrwc> LjL, right, I don't :) but it was suggested to me that that's what I needed to do....
[00:35] <LjL> ndrwc: it might be, if you really want or need the updated driver now.
[00:36] <LjL> ndrwc: that doesn't make it a good idea, but it might make it the only possible thing to do.
[00:36] <PotterT|VF> any one know how can I switch off compiz in jaunty via a ssh terminal and make it affect a currently running desktop session?
[00:37] <xangua> PotterT|VF: metacity --replace ┬┐
[00:37] <ndrwc> LjL, well I've attempted to request a backport / update / whatever... but a lot of the documentation on how to do that comes from a developer perspective, not an end user perspective
[00:37] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.
[00:37] <PotterT|VF> xangua: that wont work via ssh, it wants an X session
[00:37] <LjL> ndrwc, you could in theory do two things: 1) report a bug about the driver, 2) request a backport. in reality, neither thing is going to work anyway
[00:38] <PotterT|VF> i'm suffering from the "compiz breaks vino" bug and cannot control my desktop remotely
[00:38] <kazzy> why would you be wanting to replace the window manager if you don't have an X session
[00:38] <LjL> ndrwc: that's because 1) Ubuntu developers haven't really any control on the driver, since it's a closed-source driver and it's hard to ever check for regressions, and 2) this wouldn't really apply for backports (and you can't directly request an Updates update)
[00:38] <Thocrun> #debian-games
[00:39] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: do you need to kill off compiz remotely? you surely can do: DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &
[00:39] <ndrwc> LjL, so you're saying that once a package is out there it's out there for good???? How come multiple versions of the NVIDIA drivers exist then?
[00:39] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: let me try
[00:39] <LjL> ndrwc: not always, but in the case of the nvidia drivers, yes, pretty much.
[00:39] <DougM> is it possible to change the Ubuntu boot up screen?
[00:39] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: but it's an odd thing to request. just turn off the X server
[00:39] <DopeGhoti> DougM: yes.
[00:40] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: i.e. do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:40] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: i have control now via rdp, thanks!!
[00:40] <DougM> DopeGhoti: do you know of a site online where I could find different themes?
[00:40] <kazzy> PotterT|VF: ah, yw. glad that works
[00:40] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: i would have lost the vino session
[00:40] <kazzy> aha
[00:40] <LjL> ndrwc: by the way, other people may suggest using "envyng" rather than using PPA packages.
[00:40] <Lamo> what do you call the user agent switcher at the top right on Ubuntu? Mine crashed and wont load on boot anymore.
[00:40] <DopeGhoti> DougM: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Change-Ubuntu-Bootsplash-Theme-55237.shtml
[00:40] <kazzy> didn't realize you were using rdp though, thought you were using X over ssh
[00:40] <DougM> DopeGhoti: cool thanks a lot.. appreciate it
[00:41] <ndrwc> LjL, ok, suppose I take the position that I trust NVIDIA enough to buy their hardware and use their drivers. Is it really so hard for the Ubuntu package to be updated to reflect that? Anyway I suppose I can try envy again but I thought that checked the repos...
[00:41] <PotterT|VF> kazzy: heh, no worries, thanks for the help!
[00:41] <kazzy> LjL: Envy? I'd suggest just upgrade the thing. Haven't needed envy in ages
[00:41] <obiwan__> please anybody has a new computer (up to 1,5 years) with broadcom wifi chipset not using wifi now?
[00:41] <LjL> ndrwc: do i look like i can push an update through the repositories?
[00:41] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.  apt-get install grub puts it somewhere, but nothing in /boot other then the kernel images.  grub-install /location/of/partition returns "does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[00:42] <LjL> kazzy: define "the thing" please
[00:42] <ndrwc> LjL, no, but perhaps you can tell me how to find out how I can request it without having to be the maintainer :)
[00:42] <kazzy> the Ubuntu install
[00:42] <LjL> ndrwc: i'd say nowhere, really. it just doesn't qualify. but http://bugs.ubuntu.com/
[00:42] <ndrwc> kazzy, right, but karmic isn't out (and is broken)
[00:42] <obiwan__> please anybody has a new computer (up to 1,5 years) with broadcom wifi chipset not using wifi now?
[00:42] <LjL> kazzy: what ndrwc said
[00:42] <kazzy> oh, /jaunty/ doesn't have updated drivers?
[00:42] <kringel> since karmic most applications including wget are resolving hostnames to 1.0.0.0 it happened for me in hoary (ubuntu 5.04). no problems since then
[00:43] <ndrwc> kazzy, indeed, but karmic does :( hence I'm attempting this backport  or update or whatever request
[00:43] <DougM> is it possible to install SUM - startup manager through the terminal?
[00:43] <LjL> kringel: ask in #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[00:43] <Tiggers> I have a stupid question, If I have two tabs open in my terminal window, is there a shortcut to go between the two easily?
[00:43] <LtMike> anyone help with setting up a gui for ubuntu server?
[00:43] <kringel> LjL ok thanks
[00:43] <ndrwc> Tiggers, ctrl+pageup
[00:43] <amagee> Tiggers: shift+left, shift+right
[00:43] <LjL> ndrwc: you need to file a bug explaining what's wrong with the drivers. my bet, though, is it'll be marked as fixed in the next version.
[00:43] <tonyyarusso> Tiggers: alt-num
[00:44] <amagee> oh oops i was thinking konsole
[00:44] <kazzy> ndrwc: well, you can always just install the nVidia drivers from the package, though that's not supported
[00:44] <LjL> ndrwc: don't bother fixing a backports request, it isn't going to happen
[00:44] <Tiggers> thanks
[00:44] <LjL> s/fixing/filing/
[00:44] <ndrwc> sigh :(
[00:44] <ubunter> also edit->keyboard shortcuts
[00:44] <Tiggers> alt + num = PWNAGE, thanks!
[00:44] <CRAY-4_> hey guys, i how would i fing a linux user group
[00:44] <CRAY-4_> *find
[00:44] <LjL> ndrwc: you have at least two reasonable options: using envyng and making your own backport
[00:45] <LjL> ndrwc: both are unsupported, but there you go.
[00:45] <kazzy> well, so is nVidia's binary installer, right?
[00:45] <ndrwc> LjL, actually I just tried envyng and it still came up as 180
[00:45] <LjL> kazzy: that's the last route i would take
[00:46] <LjL> ndrwc: how long has the newer version been out?
[00:46] <ndrwc> If karmic was out I'd agree with your suggestion of "use karmic it's never going to happen". But it's not.
[00:46] <kazzy> LjL: doesn't making your own backport entail building it and writing a debian package for it? that can't be any easier
[00:47] <ubunter> how should I make seperate launchers on the top bar to turn apache2 on/off?
[00:47] <LjL> kazzy: easy enough, you get the source package from Karmic and rebuild it.
[00:47] <LjL> kazzy: it's not something i would personally do for a video driver, however.
[00:47] <ndrwc> LjL, since 7th August
[00:47] <DougM> im trying to install start-up manager but keeping getting this error in my Package Installer: "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: python-support(>=0.90.0)".  Is there a way to just install it through terminal?
[00:48] <LjL> ndrwc: uhm, i'd have imagine it would support such a relatively old release.
[00:48] <DougM> nvm i figured it out
[00:48] <ndrwc> LjL, also, there's an entry in the changelog taht reads "automatic backport" for Intrepid. What gives?
[00:48] <LjL> ndrwc: automatic backport of what?
[00:48] <ndrwc> err nvidia 180
[00:48] <ubunter> eg to turn it off I thought putting the command sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop in the command field for the launcher would work but it does nothing
[00:49] <ndrwc> LjL, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 <- quite near the bottom
[00:50] <giros> hi. why fglrx 9.9 driver don not work with 2.6.31 kernel?
[00:50] <ndrwc> anyway gtg
[00:50] <LjL> agh
[00:51] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need someone to give me a hand with installing GRUB on to the root partition of a fakeraid, and setting it up.  Currently the LiveCD or Alternate install don't allow a proper install with the bootloader installed to the root partition.  apt-get install grub puts it somewhere, but nothing in /boot other then the kernel images.  grub-install /location/of/partition returns "does not have any corresponding BIOS drive."
[00:51] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map keycombination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[00:53] <AdamDV> startkeylogger
[00:53] <ubunter> oh i'm supposed to use gksudo instead of sudo
[00:53] <jrib> ubunter: yeah...
[00:53]  * jrib eyes AdamDV
[00:53] <DougM> Im entering sudo dpkg -i startupmanager_1.0.4-1_all.deb into terminal to install startup-manager but I keep getting the following error: "error processing startupmanager_1.0.4-1_all.deb (--install): cannon acces archive: No such file or directory"  Anyone have any idea why its not working?
[00:53]  * AdamDV eyes jrib
[00:54]  * AdamDV assumes no one using ubuntu runs norton ;)
[00:54] <jrib> ubunter: I read you question but was eating and was about to type that to you when you mentioned gksudo
[00:54] <Irving> not much need adam
[00:54] <AdamDV> Haha, I know.
[00:54] <jrib> AdamDV: you're assuming only people using ubuntu use this channel though!
[00:54] <AdamDV> Well, it is #ubuntu ..
[00:55] <Irving> in actually here on a vista laptop
[00:55] <sadiq_> any channel related to karmic ??
[00:55] <AdamDV> not #microsoft-and-affiliated-symantec-products
[00:55] <Irving> isntalling xp on my desktop
[00:55] <Irving> and let me tell you
[00:55] <AdamDV> Irving: I apologize then, if you are running norton :)
[00:55] <Irving> its making me appreciate ubuntu a lot
[00:55] <AdamDV> Haha
[00:55] <AdamDV> Yeah
[00:55] <AirBender> sadiq_: #ubuntu+1
[00:55] <xangua> sadiq_: #ubuntu+1
[00:55] <Flannel> AdamDV: Malice isn't appropriate regardless of operating system.
[00:55] <Irving> actually i do have norton on my laptop
[00:55] <kazzy> then why are you just appreciating, not using?
[00:55] <Irving> oh i am
[00:55] <Irving> its on its partitions
[00:56] <Irving> but for the usuall reason, I want to have XP
[00:56] <Irving> but I don't have my cd
[00:56] <Irving> so I found a copy I made of one of the 1st versions
[00:56] <Irving> and it accepted my legit serial which is for sp2
[00:56] <Irving> but things are weird now
[00:56] <Irving> installed cideo card driver, went to 4bit color and very small resolution
[00:57] <ubunter> irving: I hosed a mail stack install, makes me pine for exchange :/
[00:57] <Irving> so now im getting the latest driver, hopefully it will work (i had a slightly older driver backed up)
[00:57] <kazzy> ubunter: postfix is really that bad?
[00:57] <Irving> i don't follow ubunter?
[00:58] <ubunter> you were saying about windows things being a hassle
[00:58] <kazzy> heh, computers are a hassle
[00:58] <joe_____> Testing
[00:58] <ubunter> I think I missed a puntuation mark somewhere and now can't install or uninstall mail related things
[00:58] <Irving> oh
[00:59] <ubunter> good thing I have a data partition :)
[00:59] <Irving> im puting XP on primarily for using photoshop cs3, i heard it was very difficult to run on ubuntu
[00:59] <Irving> but other than that, i think i'll be using ubuntu most of the time
[00:59] <Irving> its so much nicer
[01:00] <Lamo> fast-user-switch-applet wont load on boot for me, anyone know the command so i can start it manually?
[01:00] <jrib> Lamo: maybe it's an applet?
[01:01] <Lamo> so how do i run it
[01:01] <kazzy> Irving: you can always just install in VirtualBox, then you won't have the graphics issues
[01:01] <jrib> Lamo: right click -> add to panel -> ?
[01:01] <Irving> i did see that
[01:02] <Lamo> >_> ok got it thanks
[01:02] <Irving> im sure there will be other things i need XP for
[01:02] <Irving> but of course not by my chosing, just because a lot of times I need homemade software and stuff made only for windows
[01:03] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[01:03] <Irving> hey i do have a quick ubuntu question, I installed the microsoft font package, and restarted, and firefox is still using ubuntu fonts
[01:04] <xangua> Irving: sis>prefs>appearence
[01:05] <Irving> i think i checked there, i'll check again once im up in ubuntu agai
[01:05] <Irving> need to reinstall grub, wish me luck hopefully i'll be able to get into XP and ubuntu without trouble
[01:07] <Irving> does anyone who has multi OS, have a nice screen to select OS or does everyone have just the plain text options
[01:07] <BrianTM> You can get low res backgrounds for grub
[01:07] <Irving> hmm
[01:07] <BrianTM> there are also graphical bootloaders available
[01:07] <Irving> ah cool
[01:07] <Irving> thats what I was thinking
[01:07] <BrianTM> the grub backgrounds are .xpm files if memory serves
[01:08] <Irving> nice widescreen wallpaper, with the windows and ubunto logo
[01:08] <BrianTM> I beleive the next version of ubuntu will have a graphical bootloader
[01:08] <Irving> cool
[01:08] <BrianTM> or at least, it is a feature that is being looked at
[01:08] <Irving> would it show windows in its list
[01:08] <kazzy> grub backgrounds aren't quite the same thing
[01:08] <BrianTM> dont know how customizable that will be
[01:09] <BrianTM> yes, it will show all bootable OSs on the system
[01:09] <Irving> cool
[01:09] <Irving> i'll have to look into some of the graphical boot loaders
[01:09] <kazzy> personally, though, the bootloader is like the system console. I want to see it for less time, no matter how shiny it is
[01:09] <Irving> true
[01:09] <Irving> i need to get grub back soon, does it usually show XP and ubuntu
[01:10] <kazzy> GRUB in graphical mode seems rather slow, especially if you need to input commands
[01:10] <Irving> i have ubuntu installed first, and i just put XP on
[01:10] <BrianTM> here are a few grub splash screens http://www.queervisions.com/2007/9-grub-splash-images/
[01:10] <BrianTM> you will have to fix the GRUB with a live cd
[01:10] <BrianTM> installing xp after ubuntu breaks GRUB on you. Easy enough to fix though
[01:11] <BrianTM> hang on a sec and i'll find you a guide on how
[01:12] <kazzy> BrianTM: ubuntu didn't break grub, windows XP did
[01:13] <yitz_> Waaaay bit off topic, but can anyone suggest a CLI calendar/schedule app for Linux? Not emacs user. (My distro channel isn't garnering me much)
[01:13] <trism> kazzy: I think that's (installing xp after ubuntu) breaks grub, not installing xp (after ubuntu breaks grub)
[01:13] <kazzy> trism: yeah I'm too sleepy and dyslexic, thanks
[01:14] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: I saw something regarding that on lifehacker a while ago
[01:14] <BrianTM> Irving: http://apcmag.com/the_definitive_dualbooting_guide_linux_vista_and_xp_stepbystep.htm
[01:14] <lorenzo> hi, i dont get any sound out of mplayer. everything else works. i dont know how to fix it. thanks
[01:14] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: I could also see weapping a todo file and cal around some python in your .profile
[01:14] <yitz_> They had a CLI todo app. I'm looking for a more calendar/schedule thing
[01:15] <Irving> ty brian
[01:16] <dekkong> Hello!
[01:16] <BrianTM> Irving: np, you have most of that done, so just scroll down to the repairing GRUB section on the relevant page
[01:16] <harisund> So I want to use Gnome / Ubuntu. Please don't tell me to use xubuntu or LowMemoryBuntu or whatever ..but I would like to reduce the memory footprint. Any suggestions? Use a different window manager?
[01:16] <DopeGhoti> yitz_: getting a bit offtopic, write yourself a TSV or CSV appointment list, and cook up a script to parse 'cal' and/or 'date' to tell you if anything's coming up
[01:17] <yitz_> DopeGhoti: Possibly. This looks like it might go somewhere: http://freshmeat.net/projects/pal
[01:17] <BrianTM> harisund: you could try using Openbox instead of Metacity as your WM, but if your willing to reinstall, you could do a minimal Gnome install from the mini ISO
[01:17] <evon>  I am trying to download some torrents with transimission but I cannot seem to find an open port. can anyone tell me how to find one?
[01:18] <harisund> BrianTM: that's what I am looking forward to. How do I do this "minimal Gnome install"? (And I assume you mean server when you say mini ISO?)
[01:18] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:18] <Irving> Brain, I was given this guide earlier for reinstalling grub
[01:18] <yitz_> gtg bbl
[01:18] <Irving> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[01:18] <nemesis1911> I got a issue playing mp3s... they work in mplayer  and nothing else ,, and when I try to use Rythymbox it crapps out my computer plese help ... :-(
[01:18] <Irving> i'm not sure where grub was originall installed
[01:19] <trashnoworks> hey all, I'm on a new install jaunty 9.04 and the trash folder doesn't work - there are no files in the trash container. path is trash:///, but no files show up. /home/nick/.local/share/Trash has the files and the .info for each. Tried uninstalling and reinstalilng gnome-apps, did not fix. Can anyone offer some guidance plz?
[01:19] <BrianTM> Irving: how many hard drives do you have on your pc?
[01:19] <Irving> just 1
[01:19] <BrianTM> harisund: i'll grab you a link in a minute
[01:19] <Irving> so i guess hd0 is fine? i was thinking that the multiple partions might cause issues
[01:19] <BrianTM> I dont think it matters what partition you reintall grub back onto. hang on and ill give that tutorial a quick look
[01:20] <harisund> Sure thing BrianTM thanks a ton
[01:20] <Irving> k ty
[01:21] <Irving> wow, I just placed a cd in my drive on top of another cd, it made an awful sound
[01:21] <BrianTM> I think 0 will be fine. Im no expert, anyone else here able to tell me if Im giving bad advice?
[01:21] <nemesis1911> can anyone tell me why my computer crashes when I use Rythymbox .. (my mouse stops workin' and then it just totally crashes ?)
[01:21] <BrianTM> I presume you installed ubuntu to the star t of your disk?
[01:21] <Irving> partitions 1 and 2
[01:22] <BrianTM> the first partition is your linux file system
[01:22] <Irving> there are 4 total
[01:22] <BrianTM> 2 is swap or home?
[01:22] <Irving> yes
[01:22] <Irving> 2 is swap
[01:22] <FloodBot2> Irving: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:22] <BrianTM> k, cool
[01:22] <BrianTM> go for 0
[01:22] <KB1JWQ> BrianTM: Boot sector of the drive.
[01:22] <BrianTM> should be fine
[01:22] <Irving> k ty
[01:23] <BrianTM> so you can follow the instructions in that guide as is
[01:23] <Irving> ok thanks brian
[01:24] <BrianTM> harisund: sorry, nearly forgot about you, looking now
[01:24] <BrianTM> I have it bookmarked i think
[01:26] <rootlinuxusr> How can I achieve this, http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u297/akita11/Capture-1.jpg in Ubuntu?
[01:26] <BrianTM> crap... he left before i got him the link
[01:26] <himuraken> Good evening, I am looking into purchasing a newer mobo/cpu. I am thinking AMD Phenom X4 etc. Are there any clearly known issues with 9.04 running on these newer chipsets?
[01:26] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:26] <himuraken> I am thinking of critical things like NIC's and onboard disk controllers etc.
[01:27] <Irving> would it make any difference if I use a kubuntu live cd, my ubuntu cd stopped working
[01:28] <decoywolf> disconnect
[01:29] <Flannel> Irving: to reinstall GRUB? no, won't make a significant difference
[01:30] <Irving> ok thanks, i think i can do it though using my live thumb drive
[01:30] <Irving> im not convinced my CD drive is messed royally
[01:30] <BrianTM> Yeah, the live thumb drive will be fine
[01:30] <Irving> *now convinced
[01:30] <BrianTM> est of luck
[01:30] <Irving> thank you
[01:31] <Irving> every OS install i did with cds got messed up, even the new XP one has many DLL errors
[01:31] <Irving> but at least i can fix those
[01:31] <Irving> only ubuntu, installed from thumb drive is working
[01:31] <Irving> or fully working
[01:31] <BrianTM> would a dodgey cd drive give you dll errors?
[01:31] <BrianTM> or do you mean missing files during the install process?
[01:31] <Irving> idk, but maybe some of them weren't copied
[01:32] <Irving> no it looked like a clean install
[01:32] <Irving> but i had multiple other bad installs from good cds
[01:32] <BrianTM> I cant be sure, but I doubt thats from a dodgey cd drive
[01:32] <Irving> good kubuntu cd, wouldn't install, good ubuntu cd, wouldn't install, and a different xp cd wouldn't do it either
[01:32] <BrianTM> I thought xp install would fail if there were missing dlls, or at least prompt you
[01:33] <Irving> yea me too, it didn't say anything though
[01:33] <Irving> maybe its ok
[01:33] <BrianTM> hopefully
[01:33] <Irving> other than a few dll errors on boot, its runing fine
[01:33] <BrianTM> you should clone the drive once you have it up and running, but before you install extra software
[01:33] <Irving> but even just now, i couldn't load ubuntu live off cd
[01:33] <BrianTM> so you can just restore the partition instead of reinstaling xp next time
[01:33] <Irving> yea thats a good idea
[01:34] <Irving> alright i'll be back, reinstalling grub wish me luck
[01:34] <BrianTM> Clonezilla live cd will do that for you. thats what I use anyway. Loadds of options oout there for cloning
[01:34] <Irving> then im going to get some grub hehe
[01:34] <BrianTM> good luck
[01:34] <rootlinuxusr> http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u297/akita11/Capture-1.jpg how can i do this in Ubuntu 9.04?
[01:36] <hamad> hi
[01:36] <Hillshum> Anyone know anything about the dict protocol? I'm trying to get a server running for when I'm offline
[01:36] <BrianTM> rootlinuxusr: dont know I'm afraid... though most of the music players support albumart
[01:37] <rootlinuxusr> right. But how do I have folder previews?
[01:37] <rootlinuxusr> like... XP had folder.jpg/png
[01:38] <rootlinuxusr> is there a naming convention...or?
[01:38] <BrianTM> dont know, sorry
[01:38] <Hillshum> rootlinuxusr: Have you tried folder.jpg ?
[01:39] <justin-_> Hello
[01:39] <rootlinuxusr> Yup same partition, GRUB'd into Ubuntu. No cheese.
[01:41] <Irving> didn't work out well
[01:41] <Irving> i got grub installed, it booted into ubuntu
[01:42] <Irving> i followed the steps, or so I thought, to make windows appear
[01:42] <Irving> and now it says invalid system disk
[01:42] <BrianTM> Ah, ok
[01:42] <BrianTM> how many partitions on your hd
[01:42] <BrianTM> 4 you said?
[01:42] <Irving> 4
[01:42] <beans43> why people say "alarm goes off" to mean the alarm clock rings?
[01:42] <Irving> yep
[01:43] <BrianTM> what are they - linux sys + swap + ? + XP
[01:43] <BrianTM> (the order is important
[01:43] <thahauss> Hi guys, I'm using compiz with AWN and I'm trying to get my AWN to launch of my primary screen, i searched google and learned to type "DISPLAY=":0.1" /usr/bin/avant-window-navigator & , im getting the error "unable to open display" please help!
[01:43] <Irving> linux, swap, xp, empty
[01:43] <BrianTM> ok
[01:43] <BrianTM> so you want to put the following into the grub entry:
[01:43] <BrianTM> root   (hd0,2)
[01:44] <BrianTM> is that what you have in?
[01:44] <Irving> h/o
[01:44] <BrianTM> (with all the other stuff from that tutorial)
[01:47] <Guest16579> hey i have a bad cpu and i need a screen recorder that wont take all the cpu
[01:47] <sanguinoso> get a better cpu
[01:47] <kansan> looking for a good sound card for my home pc running ubuntu jaunty.  i have a pci express and pci slot available.  ideally it would support 4.1 channels.  ideas?
[01:47] <Guest16579> recordmydesktop takes 90% and slows down everything
[01:48] <black> what's the best way to encrypt a flat file in ubuntu for free?
[01:49] <Blazt> Hey
[01:49] <xcs-live> Hey :)
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> !gpg | black
[01:50] <Irving> you still here brian?
[01:50] <BrianTM> yup
[01:50] <Hansard> I uninstalled a program that had an old version in the ubuntu repositories and added a PPA to my sources and added the key. How do I install the version from the ppa? Do I just go add/remove and add the program from there again?
[01:50] <Irving> sorry i got a phone call
[01:50] <BrianTM> np
[01:50] <Irving> what were you saying, im back in live thumb drive to edit file again
[01:50] <black> tonyyarusso, ubottu: thansk
[01:51] <Irving> all i did was uncomment the windows example
[01:51] <BrianTM> careful now...
[01:51] <BrianTM> no
[01:51] <BrianTM> you need to change the address to hd (0,2)
[01:51] <Blazt> Has anyone every installed fluid on mac... I can not get my script to make the twitter page to update after i install the script
[01:51] <BrianTM> to tell it what partition to find xp in
[01:51] <Irving> but its on partition 3
[01:51] <BrianTM> aye - partition 1 is 0,0, 2 is 0,1 etc
[01:52] <pokrmessiah> does anyone here know what the deal is with growisofs and DL DVDs? I scoured the goog and forums for answers and it seems everyone has opinions, but no definite answers
[01:52] <phaer> When i try to activate the option "Share my keys with others on my network" in seahorse ("Password and Encryption Keys") i just get the error message "Couldn't share keys\n Can't publish discovery information on the network.". Feeding google with this message did not help so far. Any ideas? Where should i look?
[01:52] <histo> Hansard: if you just add/remove the program it should pull the updated one from the ppa now
[01:52] <Hansard> histo: thank you. :)
[01:52] <BrianTM> and make sure you're not editing the live's menu.lst... make sure its the file from the hd partition
[01:53] <BrianTM> though im sure you know that seeing as you got that error before
[01:53] <Irving> hmm
[01:53] <histo> Hansard: it should always try to pull the most up to date package availible
[01:53] <Irving> well i accessed using sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <Irving> and now i opened it again, now its empty
[01:53] <ihatebootloaders> Hello!  I need help installing and setting grub, on the root partition, while under a fakeraid (dmraid) environment.  Thanks in advance!
[01:53] <BrianTM> When you rebooted you got the windows grub entry, right? and when you chose it you got the error?
[01:54] <Irving> no it didn't give me either windows or ubuntu
[01:54] <Irving> invaild boot disk
[01:54] <Evelina> I'm trying to get Conky to work with RSS. It seems that the links isn├żt clickable. Isn├żt it possible to display links in Conky that you're able to click on?
[01:54] <justin-_> The skript work great in mac and everything it looks like a real web app ...just twitter stay still dont update or dislay notifications...booh
[01:54] <Blazt> he skript work great in mac and everything it looks like a real web app ...just twitter stay still dont update or dislay notifications...booh
[01:54] <BrianTM> so you couldnt boot to either xp or ubuntu from the hd?
[01:54] <Irving> nope
[01:54] <Irving> i said hit any key to continue or something
[01:55] <Irving> but it just kept coming back to the same invalid boot disk error
[01:55] <Wicked> is it safe to rm -rf a linux-source directory in /usr/src? i compiled a kernel and now that folder is using around 5 gigs of space....and on a 10 gig hard drive...thats *alot* of space to have wasted
[01:55] <BrianTM> thinking... :/
[01:56] <Irving> i see what you said, it makes sense it should have been hd (0, 2) but now the empty file is a problem
[01:56] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if you are in the directory in question it would be ok, or specify it in the rm command
[01:56] <Irving> maybe i should redo the top part for installing grub
[01:57] <|rt|> does the video on this post work for anyone? http://www.sharms.org/blog/2009/09/16/creating-a-virtual-machine-using-ubuntu-kvm-builder/
[01:57] <Wicked> Jeruvy, so its safe to rm that directory?
[01:57] <BrianTM> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst wont work for you from the live thumb, as your editing the live's menu.lst... not the important one on your hd. When you reinstaled grub that should have made your pc boot straight back into your hd ubuntu install
[01:57] <BrianTM> you sure its on the first partition? you can open the partition editor in the live thumb to doublecheck
[01:57] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if you don't want it, sure.
[01:58] <BrianTM> So yes, redo the top part of the tutorial, then reboot your system with the thumb drive and any cds removed
[01:58] <Wicked> well i was just unsure as i noticed that /usr/src/linux is a sym link to the directory using al the space. i know i needed to make the sym link to compile the kernel....but was unsure if it needed to remain.
[01:58] <Irving> ok yea
[01:59] <Irving> sda1 ext3
[01:59] <Irving> sda2 linux-swap
[01:59] <Irving> sda3 ntfs
[01:59] <musikgoat> !pastebin | Irving
[01:59] <aspoor> wow awsome I love Ubuntu
[01:59] <Irving> and 4 is just a fat32 for future use
[02:00] <Jeruvy> Wicked: if there are symlinks you should delete those first.  And make sure nothing in that directory is needed.
[02:00] <BrianTM> hopefully when you redo the tutorial you will boot to your ubuntu hd install
[02:00] <Irving> ok i'll try that
[02:00] <redbean> Hello, I have been using Ubuntu for about 3 hours now, but I can not play anything coz I have to mount an iso to play a game, how do I use poweriso? its installed and all, but cant start the program
[02:01] <Wicked> Jeruvy, ok. so just to make sure im making it clear... the folder /usr/src/linux points to /usr/src/linux-source<kerenl version>/. ive built the kernel from that and i can now rm -rf both /usr/src/linux and /usr/src/linux-source<kernel version> ??
[02:01] <BrianTM> Irving: just curious, do you have this irc session open on a seporate pc?
[02:02] <Irving> yes
[02:02] <BrianTM> k, i shouldnt have had to ask that seeing as you weren't disconnecting  :|
[02:02] <Irving> reinstalled grub on first partition
[02:02] <Irving> ah i still go the invalid system disk
[02:03] <BrianTM> ok, remove all media, usb + cd, and reboot
[02:03] <Jeruvy> Wicked: If you complied the kernel, then you should keep the version you compiled, otherwise yes.  Whether you need the source at this stage I'm not certain, probably better to ask in #linux
[02:03] <BrianTM> crap
[02:03] <BrianTM> do you see a grub window before that
[02:03] <Wicked> Jeruvy, hmm ok. thanks
[02:03] <AdamDV> Hey, whats the ssh tunnel command?
[02:03] <redbean> So.. is it even possible to use poweriso/mount programs in ubuntu?
[02:03] <AdamDV> I'm trying to tunnel into my server to use phpmyadmin.
[02:03] <Irving> well i think the first time, i made the same mistake as in the menu.lst file and I used hd(0,1)
[02:03] <AdamDV> I want local port 80 to go to remote port 80
[02:03] <Irving> but it got me to where it would boot into the HD ubuntu
[02:03] <AdamDV> Any ideas?
[02:04] <musikgoat> AdamDV: ssh -L 80:localhost:80 user@ip
[02:04] <BrianTM> when, before you were talking to me?
[02:04] <Irving> no the first time i did the first half of tutorial
[02:04] <AdamDV> Thanks
[02:04] <Irving> i'm pretty sure I used hd(0,1) with those two commands
[02:05] <BrianTM> so it gave you grub and didnt error, and you got into your hd install?
[02:05] <Irving> yes
[02:05] <BrianTM> I thought you got the system error that time too?
[02:05] <Irving> no the 1st time it worked properly, just didn't show XP
[02:05] <Irving> then i went to the next part of tutorial, and thats when everything went nutty
[02:06] <BrianTM> I'm genuinely confused. That sounds like GRUB got installed to the swap partition
[02:06] <Irving> thats what I think
[02:06] <BrianTM> hd(0,1) would be sda2
[02:06] <Irving> but when it was, i did work
[02:07] <BrianTM> madness
[02:07] <Irving> it is lol
[02:07] <Irving> tried to do it again, "Couldn't mount partiton"
[02:08] <BrianTM> what do you see just before that?
[02:08] <Irving> so maybe I didn't do that, but now i'm still stuck
[02:08] <Irving> setup (hd0,1)
[02:08] <BrianTM> oh, right, I misunderstood you, ok
[02:09] <Evelina> What is the best way to show clickable feeds on desktop?
[02:09] <Irving> so its not installing on swap space, i just did it on partition one and it still gives me invaild boot disk error
[02:09] <bruenig> feed reader
[02:09] <BrianTM> In the partition editor, look at the flags on the partitions, both the linux and xp partitions should have boot flags
[02:10] <BrianTM> that might be it
[02:10] <Irving> oh jeez
[02:10] <BrianTM> if the linux one isnt flagged as boot, do that, and then try to reinstall grub again
[02:10] <Irving> the only partitio nthat has boot under the flags is the unused 4th partion :(
[02:11] <BrianTM> ok, so right click on the first
[02:11] <BrianTM> manage flags  and check boot
[02:11] <Irving> ok, what about lba
[02:11] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[02:11] <BrianTM> lba?
[02:12] <turbopirat> Hi, is there any way to make a symbolic link to a server through samba? I want to be able to browse the files on the server on the other end of the room as if they were on my computer, and I can't access the files on that server through file-open and -save dialogs, and I'd very much like to.
[02:12] <Irving> idk, it is the other flag on the unused partition
[02:12] <BrianTM> dont worry about the unused partition for now
[02:12] <centaur5> Can a MySQL and PostgreSQL database be retrieved even if you can't chroot into the Ubuntu install to use mysqldump?
[02:12] <BrianTM> just set the ubuntu partition to boot
[02:12] <BrianTM> then try to install grub to it again
[02:12] <n8tuser> turbopirat-> look into using fusesmb to mount a remote directory locally
[02:12] <BrianTM> make sure to apply the changes in the partition editor before trying the grub thing
[02:13] <turbopirat> n8tuser: thank you, i'll look into in
[02:13] <turbopirat> it*
[02:13] <Irving> ok this time it went through the install of grub
[02:13] <Irving> but it said that something failed
[02:13] <|rt|> turbopirat: another option is if you browse ther first and set it as a bookmark....if you visit it first you can access it through ~/.gvfs/
[02:13] <BrianTM> can you tell me what it said failed?
[02:14] <|rt|> turbopirat: the bookmark just makes it easier to go back in the future
[02:14] <Irving> h/o trying to see if it will boot to hd
[02:14] <lex_alex81> quit
[02:14] <BrianTM> ok
[02:14] <turbopirat> |rt|: but can i access it through dialogs that way?
[02:15] <|rt|> yes...as long as you've gone there a head of time to make sure it's mounted
[02:15] <turbopirat> |rt|: i got one folder on the server bookmarked but it doesn't show up when i'm opening/saving files via the dialogs
[02:15] <Irving> no dice, i'll go through the grub install again and show you what it says
[02:15] <|rt|> turbopirat: yeah go to the bookmark first....after you go there it should show up in the .gvfs folder
[02:16] <turbopirat> |rt|: ok thanks :)
[02:16] <|rt|> extra step but it does work
[02:16] <BrianTM> what happened when you rebooted?
[02:16] <v3ritas> i'm trying to use the zip command on a linux device, with an excluded directory but after i hit Enter, i get "zip warning: name not matched" for the excluded directory
[02:16] <Irving> same thing, invalid boot disk
[02:17] <Irving> press any key, then it says invalid boot disk again and has me press enter, just goes through that loop over and over
[02:17] <chris-dowle> where is the audio burner in rhythmbox?
[02:17] <sunshinepants> chris-dowle: it uses brasero
[02:17] <BrianTM> feck. Is it a fresh ubuntu install? might be easier just to reinstall it?
[02:18] <sunshinepants> chris-dowle: which btw may or may not detect a blank cdr.. think that was fixed, though
[02:18] <Irving> well, i have a few things customized already
[02:18] <Irving> mainly a video card driver that took a long time to install
[02:18] <BrianTM> (its always easier installing ubuntu after xp... i just hope xp is still bootable!!!)
[02:18] <|rt|> does the video on this post work for anyone? http://www.sharms.org/blog/2009/09/16/creating-a-virtual-machine-using-ubuntu-kvm-builder/
[02:18] <Irving> hmm, the flag is gone now
[02:18] <Irving> the flag on the ubuntu partition
[02:18] <BrianTM> and you definitely applied the change?
[02:19] <sunshinepants> |rt|: yep
[02:19] <|rt|> I'm using firefox...the message seems imply that my web browser doesn't support embedded videos
[02:19] <justin__> Hello!
[02:19] <BrianTM> I just booted up my dual boot laptop
[02:19] <iPfaffy> |rt|, not for me, and i am using firefox
[02:19] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[02:19] <|rt|> sunshinepants: I wonder if it's one of my plugins
[02:19] <sunshinepants> |rt|: works w ff 3.5.3
[02:19] <Jyxt> |rt|: whats the message?
[02:20] <BrianTM> it has xp and linux on it... but in the partition manager the xp part is the only one with boot on it.
[02:20] <|rt|> Jyxt: says If you canŌĆÖt see the video directly above this, you are not running a web browser that supports embedded videos (or you are seeing this on a planet).
[02:20] <BrianTM> you could try to install grub on the xp partition
[02:20] <BrianTM> which would be hd(0,2)
[02:20] <Irving> ok
[02:20] <sunshinepants> |rt|: Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
[02:20] <Jyxt> |rt|: hrm...never seen taht before, i would guess thats not a mozilla message but a site specific message
[02:21] <cagonto> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[02:21] <SeligArkin> Is there any known memory problems with X and gnome? X is using 352M, gnome panels are 147M each, and nautilus is also up there (forget the exact number) All this according to htop's VIRT column. If these figures are correect it will explain why my laptop has been going slowly lately.
[02:21] <BrianTM> I'm not sure that is going to work... may be something messed up in the MBR, and my knowledge is fairly weak there.
[02:21] <ratapoil> I need to reenable hal-polling, but when I do hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom --enable it says Cannot find storage device /dev/cdrom
[02:21] <cretep1950> can anyone tell me how to install Lotus Notes client on Ubuntu using Wine?
[02:21] <lobak> how can i set an ip address to network interface and make it permanent without change on boot and etc
[02:21] <Irving> "cannot mount selected partiton)
[02:21] <|rt|> Jyxt: yeah it's definitely site specific....I just didn't understand why I was seeing it
[02:21] <Jyxt> |rt|: using something like noscript?
[02:21] <blazt> Hi
[02:21] <sebsebseb> !hi |  blazt
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: that's what I thought at first too but don't have no script running on my machine here at home for some reason....I normally run it though
[02:23] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: That's easy. Get rid of Lotus Notes client and get Zimbra Open Source edition. http://www.zimbra.com/ :P
[02:23] <n8tuser> lobak-> man interfaces and mod the /etc/network/interfaces file
[02:23] <BrianTM> Im running out of ideas. I think at this stage if it was my machine, I would boot an XP install disk and go into the repair section, then fix the MBR, then check xp boots ok, then back to the live thumb, then try installing grub again (as it worked the first time)
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: trying firefox in safe mode now
[02:23] <BrianTM> long process
[02:23] <Irving> the error when installing to hd(0,0) is Running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,0)"... failed (this is not fatal)
[02:23] <iPfaffy> lobak: http://codesnippets.joyent.com/posts/show/319
[02:23] <cretep1950> Wait a min, does the Zimbra client connect to the Lotus Notes server?
[02:23] <blazt> anyone know if you can trip boot ubuntu right now i have a macbook with win7 running in bootcamp (dont use it) and I am using linux in vmware ... it works fine but i dunno I would rather install it
[02:23] <|rt|> Jyxt: hmm no dice....very odd
[02:23] <ihatebootloaders> How can I find out my drive geometry, without rebooting?  (cylinders, heads, sectors)
[02:24] <BrianTM> i dont know what that means, sorry
[02:24] <|rt|> guess I'll fire up my xp vm to see if that works
[02:24] <iPfaffy> BrianTM: you could also try booting from a BartPE and fixing the mbr from there
[02:24] <Irving> ok thank you
[02:24] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: fdisk?
[02:24] <Jyxt> fdisk -l lists all yoru drives/partitions etc
[02:24] <obiwan_> hi, in my system/prefs/screen resolution, when i connect a monitor to my laptop i got 3 screens. My laptop's, the true monitor, and "unkown". What the........... is that? i' can't get rid of it, why the .... i have three monitors? i have never, ever connected a third monitor. Why then i have 3?
[02:24] <abcdefg> why is this sudo rm -rf / about?
[02:24] <Irving> i'll try what you said, repair XP install then try to redo everything
[02:24] <abcdefg> what*
[02:24] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt that shows sectors\blocks.
[02:24] <|rt|> cretep1950: we run
[02:24] <|rt|> er damn enter button
[02:24] <sebsebseb> !danger |  abcdefg
[02:25] <blazt> Can you put in a ubuntu disk when bootcamp in mac ask you for a window cd?
[02:25] <iPfaffy> abcdefg: it will erase your entire hard drive
[02:25] <BrianTM> you know how? boot xp disc, hit R, then fixmbr from the command prompt
[02:25] <|rt|> cretep1950: we run Zimbra at work....but never tried using the offline client with lotus
[02:25] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: fdisk -l is showing me 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1215 cylinders
[02:25] <Jyxt> etc etc
[02:25] <bef0rd> hey, I'm trying to configure bind, it seems to be working locally when I use nameserver 127.0.0.1 in my resolv.conf, however, when testing it outside of my lan, it doesn't work, any help?
[02:25] <ratapoil> My CD-ROM drive stopped working. I did a hal-disable-device a few days ago. now when I try to reenable it it says cannot find storage device! what can I do?
[02:25] <BrianTM> Its nearly 2.30AM here so wont be on much longer.
[02:25] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: I know it works with Exchange server, not sure about Lotus notes...
[02:25] <blazt> I have wine installed and macports so i can use most linux apps but i would rather install it natievly
[02:26] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt: mine doesn't >.<
[02:26] <Irving> ok goodnight, thanks for your help
[02:26] <obiwan_> good night irving
[02:26] <iPfaffy> bef0rd: what error does it give?
[02:26] <cretep1950> Lotus Note suses all sorts of encryption, client can connect to server from anywhere using TCP/IP
[02:26] <Irving> lol i'm not leaving yet, saying gnight to brian
[02:26] <SeligArkin> Nobody knows about any known issues regarding memory usage?
[02:26] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: does fdisk -l give you anything?
[02:27] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: I'm not aware of any
[02:27] <ihatebootloaders> Yep, sectors\cylinders.
[02:27] <cretep1950> Somewhere i read that Notes works ok with Wine but I don't know first thing about setting it up...
[02:27] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: X and Gnome have been really abusing my laptop's memory
[02:27] <ratapoil> how can I list installed devices?
[02:27] <ihatebootloaders> Jyxt: err..start\end\blocks.
[02:27] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, it only resolves the domains that are on my zone, however, other domains (such as google.com) stop working
[02:27] <Jyxt> ihatebootloaders: hrm...i dont know then :P
[02:27] <BrianTM> not going quite yet, but soon :)
[02:28] <Jyxt> mien is showing detailed info...im on gentoo though, but fdisk should be the same across distro's
[02:28] <iPfaffy> bef0rd: can you private paste your bind config?
[02:28] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, I've already added the zone . with the root-servers, also enabled forwarders with opendns
[02:28] <Irving> ok
[02:28] <e-jat> can this bug 398214 assign to someone?
[02:28] <blazt> how do I pull up a list of channels??
[02:28] <iPfaffy> hm
[02:28] <Irving> i might just start all over
[02:28] <bef0rd> iPfaffy, ok
[02:28] <aliendude5300> cretep1950: might be worth a try with Zimbra, since that doesnt require Wine to run... then if it doesnt work, I'd try using Wine
[02:28] <Irving> do xp then ubuntu, but then i'd have to go through the somewhat long process of installing the video card driver
[02:28] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: google help you any? and how many virtual desktops are you runnning?
[02:28] <histo> blazt: list of channels on what irc?
[02:28] <cretep1950> ok i will look into zimbra, never heard of it, but hey....
[02:29] <BrianTM> Dont reinstall ubuntu without fixing XPs booting, because if you did, and then had to fixmbr for xp, it would wipe grub all over again
[02:29] <cretep1950> thanks
[02:29] <blazt> yeah I type /channels nothing popped up i am not using xchat
[02:29] <biglinux> alquem doo  brasil?
[02:29] <histo> blazt: just use bootcamp to boot the ubuntu cd
[02:29] <sebsebseb> !br |  biglinux
[02:29] <abcdefg> biglinux: eu
[02:29] <histo> blazt: you can't list channels on freenode i believe
[02:29] <Irving> i think you want "/list"
[02:29] <iPfaffy> Irving: is your card ridiculous old or unique? I have found that ubuntu gets most cards right..
[02:29] <blazt> Can you have three bootcamps
[02:29] <Irving> geforce 7300 GT
[02:29] <histo> blazt: i'm not sure how boot camp works perhaps ask in a mac channel or someone else here may know
[02:29] <blazt> yeah you can i listed channels in free node in xchate tons of tie
[02:30] <Irving> it gives me an option to install proprietary driver, but it doesn't work right
 ok
[02:30] <iPfaffy> ah
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !bot |  biglinux
[02:30] <blazt> ok i will just stick to vmware
[02:30] <blazt> :)
[02:30] <iPfaffy> blazt: virtualbox is great too
[02:30] <histo> blazt: /list in the status window should list channels then
[02:30] <ratapoil> how can I list installed devices?
[02:30] <histo> ratapoil: lspci
[02:30] <n8tuser> ratapoil-> lshal
[02:31] <Irving> so i had to download the driver from nvidia site, close x server, run the installer
[02:31] <Irving> all with a ton of help from someone on here, still took about 2 hours
[02:31] <iPfaffy> wow
[02:31] <iPfaffy> weird
[02:31] <BrianTM> Irving is plagued with weird problems ;)
[02:31] <histo> Irving: why not just use the restricted driver in the repos?
[02:31] <ratapoil> how could my CD-ROM drive have disapeared from ubuntu?
[02:32] <histo> ratapoil: places > computer
[02:32] <histo> ratapoil: if you insert a cd it should auto mount it
[02:32] <seidos> Irving:  is it nvidia integrated graphics?
[02:32] <brendansmith> hey all, i have a very urgent, and interesting question....  one of my users is still at work right now, and noticed that my main server (ltsp/nfs/samba) isn't accessible, and noticed that the console said there was a kernel panic...   i had her reboot the server and im back up pouring through logs... and the line i found right before it crashed is: kernel: [ 2839.476662] blk: request botched
[02:32] <obiwan_> please, why does screen resolution (system/prefs/scr.res) detect a "unknown" third monitor? I got just the laptop's and an external one. What 's the 'unkown' one?
[02:32] <brendansmith> does anyone have any idea what kernel: [ 2839.476662] blk: request botched would mean?
[02:32] <brendansmith> im googling it but coming up with nothing
[02:32] <ratapoil> histo: obviously, it's not. the drive doesn't even appear in lspci anymore
[02:33] <blazt> aha I figured out how to do it in cology or whatever.. I clicked consore which connected to freenode and typed list; I woud of never knew
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> guys
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> I installed ubuntu
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> on my machine
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> but now it won't start up
[02:33] <ratapoil> Crunchwrap: congrats
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> it doesn't even get power
[02:33] <brendansmith> hah
[02:33] <brendansmith> plug it in
[02:33] <histo> ratapoil: i don't think cdrom drives will show up there
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> ...
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> holy shit
[02:33] <ratapoil> histo, where can I look for it then?
[02:33] <Crunchwrap> I don't believe it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !language |  Crunchwrap
[02:34] <Crunchwrap> you were right
[02:34] <blazt> Yeah linux can do that hehe
[02:34] <histo> ratapoil: it doesn't really have a place other then /dev untill you mount a cd
[02:34] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: are you a bot or a reporter?
[02:34] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: a person
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !bot |  iPfaffy
[02:35] <iPfaffy> i see
[02:35] <iPfaffy> or i s-e-e lol
[02:35] <ratapoil> histo: I think it might just need to be polling reenabled, which I can usually do with /dev/cdrom but now it says: Following symlink from /dev/cdrom to /dev/sr0 , then Cannot find storage device /dev/cdrom
[02:35] <|rt|> hmm that video doesn't work in my XP vm using IE
[02:35] <The-Moon> Im new to linux, quick question, could anyone help me make a shortcut to a *.bin file? I downloaded and installed savage2, and i wanted to make a short cut to the bin file so i dont have to use terminal everytime to run it. Could anyone help?
[02:35] <Baconizer> Can I set my keyboard layout to use unicode?
[02:36] <Baconizer> I would like to have a custom layout, where something like Ctrl-Alt-L = lambda
[02:36] <iPfaffy> The-Moon: iirc, you can right click the desktop and make a link somehow
[02:36] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: a news paper reporter?  now  that would be sweet if   they had some  nice Linux articles in the mainstream newspapers and such, but nope
[02:36] <The-Moon> lol thats real helpful :)
[02:36] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: I meant a person who just chills and reports, op-style
[02:36] <The-Moon> ohcreate launcher cool
[02:37] <ratapoil> The-Moon, you can create a new launcher. I have one linking to /usr/local/secureftp2_5/secureftp.sh for instance
[02:37] <blazt> I kinda like mac I think im just going to stick to it and fire up a distro in a virtual machine once in awhile
[02:37] <iPfaffy> yeah, that was it
[02:37] <blazt> i think im going to try moon os next time
[02:37] <The-Moon> yeah i think i can figure it out now
[02:37] <The-Moon> ty
[02:37] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: I like using the bot,  and it should only really be used  with a proper reason
[02:37] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: agreed
[02:38] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: and as for my newspapers/media comment :( at that
[02:39] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: yeah it'd be nice to be more mainstream, esp with how useful linux is becoming in the PC world
[02:39] <histo> blazt: did you experience a problem with ubuntu?
[02:39] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: some proper advertising and such and  :D   anyway off topic
[02:39] <ipatrol> How can I mount the second VirtualBox hard disc
[02:39] <samid> is anyone using openproj?
[02:40] <blazt> no i quite like it i just dont have much room on my hard drive and i dont think think you can triple boot mac os / win 7 and  /  ubuntu easilely
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ipatrol: servers and  super computers and that  Linux is mainly used :)   ,but the desktop not yet :(
[02:40] <Jyxt> blazt: why not?
[02:40] <Jyxt> you can multiboot as many OS's as you want with grub
[02:40] <histo> blazt: i'm sure it can be done rather easily once you understand whats going on.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> blazt: Your on a real Mac?
[02:40] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: you mean me? lol
[02:40] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: messaged wrong one
[02:40] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: yes you
[02:40] <MoonJu> how can I set utf-8?
[02:40] <sebsebseb> uh
[02:40] <sebsebseb> ipatrol: messaged wrong one
[02:41] <iPfaffy> sebsebseb: I would say that linux is mainly used on servers... supercomputers yeah, but i would say probably 50/50 ingeneral
[02:41] <blazt> do you know how what is wrong with vmware anyways lol I can give it full memory then make it full screen ...pretty much the same thing
[02:41] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: Apache is the most used server and it's opensource :)  and yep that tends to run on Linux.  you can pm me if you want to continue this discussion   since off topic
[02:42] <The-Moon> Wonderful, i got the launcher working, thanks for the help :)(
[02:43] <blazt> You get Apache with mac os too i think windows is way behind
[02:43] <IdleOne> I have 8 .vob files how do I merge them into 1 .avi?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> blazt: It can run on Windows as well,  but usually  Microsoft's  not that good  server runs on Windows instead
[02:43] <Guest29872> hi
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !hi |  Guest29872
[02:43] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: ... I feel silly now, How does one change the number of VDs?
[02:43] <sebsebseb> !welcome
[02:44] <live> HEY! whats a good python IDE/gui editor... like you know vb.net that type of thing IF there is one....
[02:45] <the_dark_warrio> Is it possible to control the exposure of my webcam? What program should I use?
[02:45] <iPfaffy> SeligArkin: it's in the preferences... look in compiz fusion places, i'm not on ubuntu now, so i can't say for sure
[02:46] <blazt> I think mac is just as good as linuxi it a 'nix machine i know im going to get hated on but you can install macports and install gnome/kde software ... only thing suck is you have to pay for it! and the hardware!
[02:46] <navetz> can someone help me fix my sounds. I can only use one sound application per startup. If i start youtube first, it is the only thing that can use my sound until I restart X.
[02:46] <jumbers> Ugh. This software refuses to work under Wine. What's another option? I don't know if I really want to run a virtualized Windows
[02:46] <sebsebseb> blazt: yeah and Mac OS X also locks people in
[02:46] <losher> IdleOne: you'll want to transcode the vob files into an avi. e.g. http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-rip-DVDs-for-free-with-VLC/
[02:46] <live> yeah i used mac for a while. the thing i hated was you have to pay for the upgrades lol
[02:46] <SeligArkin> iPfaffy: I should not be using compiz, but I am not sure, my laptop doesn't have the graphics capacity to run it so I disabled it ("No effects")
[02:46] <IdleOne> losher: thank you I will take a look
[02:46] <live> and the lack of menu stuff i HATE the doc
[02:47] <histo> jumbers: check the wine app database to see if anyone else has it working
[02:47] <iPfaffy> gotcha
[02:47] <blazt> You can rip DVDs even one with blocks on it.  Use handbrake its for linux and and mac  handbrake.rf
[02:47] <jumbers> histo: It's a very specialized program that I doubt anybody else would have
[02:48] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: you didn't have to pm that, but yes  most of the worlds web servers run on Linux :)
[02:48] <slb_> hi all
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> hi
[02:48] <sebsebseb> iPfaffy: I  guess you were meant to though since off topic hmm
[02:48] <blazt> sebsebseb: what do you mean it locks people in: you mean I am going to come a fanboy ... nah i already passed up a Iphone for a Android based phone...
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> !offtyopic
[02:48] <Re|ent|ess> !offtopic
[02:48] <sebsebseb> blazt: good your asking me now,  I was on the verge of giving you  links
[02:49] <histo> jumbers: yeah then mostlikely you would have to use virtualbox, which you can run seamlessly now.
[02:49] <luist> hey im trying to use a emerald theme... but its not working... how can i do that?
[02:49] <aj_444> Does anybody here use Google Chrome on linux?
[02:49] <live> they didnt lock me in after a couple years.  and i would take a half a year with ubuntu than free mac software for life
[02:49] <blazt> i still don't understand .... you can run bootcamp.. that means you get too machine for one.
[02:50] <jumbers> histo: Is there a way to strip down Windows a lot since I only need literally 1 program?
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, I use google chrome on linux
[02:50] <sebsebseb> blazt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in   read the introduction and then be sure to check out the  Apple and Microsoft sections :)   also  find out about software freedom :)  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
[02:50] <live> python gui editor
[02:50] <aj_444> demonspork: Do you know how to enable flash?
[02:50] <histo> jumbers: you may want to check out windows lite or nlite some of those apps
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, it isn't quite as snappy as it is in windows, but hey, it is just a developement release
[02:50] <demonspork> aj_444, edit the launcher
[02:50] <histo> jumbers: or ask the people in #winehq to see if they would be abel to help
[02:51] <demonspork> aj_444, add --enable-plugins
[02:51] <sebsebseb> blazt: Bootcamp basically turns  a  Mac into a Windows PC,  it is also possible to install Linux distros such as Ubuntu onto a Mac
[02:51] <aj_444> demonspork: How do I edit the launcher?
[02:51] <BrianTM> I'm hanging. Time for bed. G'nite from Ireland
[02:51] <peepsalot> when sharing options are set in nautilus via the right-click Sharing menu, where does this configuration go?
[02:51] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:51] <demonspork> aj_444, where do you launch it from? the "Applications>Internet" menu?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  blazt
[02:52] <aj_444> demonspork: I have an icon on the desktop, I assume it would be in the internet section though.
[02:52] <IdleOne> losher: seems those instructions are for VLC Windows and don't seem to have the same options in my VLC
[02:52] <demonspork> aj_444, just right click on the launcher and there
[02:53] <mow> ubottu > freebsd
[02:53] <mow> lol
[02:53] <blazt> you can use macportts and run FREE software it is not even virtualization it the the real thing ...only down side it might not match the carbon windows
[02:53] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  mow
[02:53] <mow> playing
[02:53] <sebsebseb> blazt: carbon Windows?
[02:53] <luist> how do i disable metacity and enable emerald theme?
[02:53] <aj_444> demonspork: Okay.. I'm confused.
[02:54] <demonspork> aj_444, what has you confused?
[02:54] <zamba> luist: system - preferences - appearance
[02:54] <Itaku> how do you open terminal on netbook ubuntu?
[02:54] <zamba> Itaku: ctrl + t
[02:54] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:54] <aj_444> demonspork: the edit the launcher part. I don't know what the launcher looks like.
[02:54] <rebewlabs> okay well im new to linix.. anyone help me with a quick terminal question?
[02:54] <slb_> rebewlabs, ok
[02:54] <sebsebseb> !ask |  rebewlabs
[02:54] <demonspork> aj_444, that icon on your desktop that you click when you want to open google chrome, that is the launcher
[02:54] <blazt> whatever it used to be aqua now it carbon i think i meant the theme excuse me sir
[02:54] <aj_444> demonspork: how do I edit it?
[02:55] <luist> zamba: this will not allow me to disable metacity or enable emerald -.-
[02:55] <demonspork> aj_444, right click on it, click Properties
[02:55] <sebsebseb> blazt: since  your off topic,   I am thinking ##mac   maybe #ubuntu-offtopic even
[02:55] <The-Moon> Another question, what is the "Xorg" processes?
[02:55] <demonspork> aj_444, in the place that says "Command"  add --enable-plugins
[02:56] <slb_> Itaku, maybe alt + f2?
[02:56] <losher> IdleOne: well actually I'd use dvd::rip if you have the dvd...
[02:56] <sebsebseb> blazt: Also please be sure to visit the two links I gave you :)
[02:56] <aj_444> demonspork: So flash'll work now?
[02:56] <IdleOne> losher: I do but after ripping, the transcode button is greyed out
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, it shouldn't be long before plugins are enabled by default, the OS X developement version has plugins by default now
[02:57] <peepsalot> The-Moon, Xorg is the window system, it's what makes the graphical windows possible.  previously known as simply X
[02:57] <IdleOne> losher: if you can guide me a little I would appreciate it
[02:57] <blazt> dude never mind i was just asking if you could triple boot ubuntu i like everything UNIX including LINUX
[02:57] <luist> can anyone help me to set an emerald theme? i selected it in emerald-theme-manager but it didnt take effect
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, yes, after you close all of your google chrome windows
[02:57] <demonspork> aj_444, and relaunch
[02:57] <Enissay> Hi guys, im having vlc runing in two separated windows, how can i fix that please? -Jaunty-
[02:57] <aleron6_> does anybody know how to open the glxgears utility
[02:57] <sebsebseb> blazt: yes you can triple boot,   I am not sure how you would on a Mac though
[02:57] <The-Moon> peepsalot: thank you :)
[02:57] <slb_> hi, besides gparted live CD which i cannot run because my CD drive is defective and the usb version i made won't work, can i use a hardy usb install to repartition my drive (i have a win xp partition, /home and /)
[02:57] <rebewlabs> okay i got the aircrack-ns packet, i type "aircrack-ns" in the terminal, then how to i add other command options on it
[02:58] <aj_444> demonspork: Okay. Thanks.
[02:58] <sebsebseb> blazt: what you could do is run OS X and virtual machine other OS's
[02:59] <losher> IdleOne: that's weird. Did you use the 'copy dvd to harddisk before encoding' option?
[02:59] <blazt> Yes seb that is what I am doing right now I have  opensuse though but I am going to switch back to linux
[02:59] <IdleOne> losher: I don't think I did
[02:59] <rebewlabs> how do i add other commands on a packet name in the terminal?
[02:59] <sebsebseb> blazt: OpenSuse, but going to switch back to Linux?  What do you think OpenSuse is?
[03:00] <aleron6_> does anybody know how to open the glxgears utility
[03:00] <spursncowboys> Is there a reason for me to have apache2? I have a Ubuntu 9.04 32 bit desktop
[03:00] <blazt> i mean ubuntu
[03:00] <sebsebseb> spursncowboys: Probably not unless  your going to run a web server
[03:00] <losher> IdleOne: it uses more space (and time) but I found dvdrip doesn't always work with the 'encode on the fly' option. Er, `how did you get the 8 vob files?
[03:00] <blazt> well actually i meant kde to gnome
[03:01] <blazt> im really tired today man i cant think
[03:01] <spursncowboys> sebsebseb: How would I get it off? sudo purge apache2?
[03:01] <IdleOne> losher: correction yes I did copy to hard disk
[03:01] <slb_> IdleOne, didn't see your original question, but Handbrake may help
[03:01] <sebsebseb> blazt: Yeah OpenSuse is a bit hmm,   KDE 4 is also a bit hmm,    Kubuntu KDE 3 is nice,  and Gnome is :)
[03:01] <lstarnes> spursncowboys: sudo aptitude purge apache2
[03:01] <slb_> spursncowboys, sudo aptitude purge apache2
[03:01] <peepsalot> where are samba folder sharing settings stored?
[03:01] <spursncowboys> ty
[03:01] <IdleOne> losher: ok so I have the .vob files now what?
[03:02] <losher> IdleOne: handbrake is a possible option too, but so is ffmpeg, mencoder or transcode.
[03:02] <sebsebseb> lstarnes: I could have answered that, but  nevermind
[03:02] <IdleOne> losher: think I got it going.
[03:02] <justin-> Hello
[03:03] <sebsebseb> !hello |  justin-
[03:03] <justin-> Seb this is me I am using Linkinus
[03:03] <losher> IdleOne: did you change the encoding options? Not all combinations are valid...
[03:03] <IdleOne> losher: I went with the default
[03:03] <justin-> I was the idiot u were just talking too lol
[03:04] <sebsebseb> !idiot |  justin-
[03:04] <losher> IdleOne: once you get it going, you can experiment with different settings (if you have the patience)...
[03:04] <sebsebseb> justin-: uhmm
[03:04] <sebsebseb> justin-: there's one for not calling people noobs in here,  so I was thinking maybe for idiot to,  but calling yourself it hmm
[03:04] <IdleOne> losher: well I just want to get this dvd ripped and will take it from there :)
[03:05] <spursncowboys> What log will show me who is using my wifi?
[03:05] <spursncowboys> daemon?
[03:05] <Irving> lol sebsebseb, the bot has a command for someone "noob" calling?
[03:06] <IdleOne> Irving: the term noob is insulting to some
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !noob |  Irving
[03:07] <Irving> haha nice
[03:07] <justin-> Sorry Sebestian if I was being a jerk
[03:07] <sebsebseb> justin-: heh no you weren't
[03:07] <spursncowboys> #ubuntu-beginners-help
[03:07] <sebsebseb> justin-: you were off topic before though
[03:07] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?
[03:08] <Irving> n8tuser: you may want to see, i think I say a firefox extension for something like that
[03:08] <SeligArkin> Ok, what on earth keeps changing my hostname? It is also breaking /etc/resolv.conf - it keeps resetting my hostname to localhost.localdomain for some reason, dispite /etc/hostname saying otherwise.
[03:08] <justin-> Ok I know with SuSe you can install apt get manage can you do the same thing for Ubuntu and woud it even be worth while
[03:08] <losher> IdleOne: Understood. Since it takes ages to transcode a full dvd, you can experiment with transcoding short sections of the dvd quickly to see what effect different settings have by using the 'frame range' under 'general options' in the transcode tab. A range might be e.g. 1000 to 2000 is 1000 frames i.e. about 30 seconds of video....
[03:09] <sebsebseb> justin-: apt get manage ????  what are you on about
[03:09] <sebsebseb> !apt |  justin-
[03:09] <justin-> manager
[03:09] <justin-> package tool
[03:09] <sebsebseb> didn't want the bot to do that
[03:09] <sebsebseb> justin-: I thought Suse used yum?
[03:09] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> look in /etc/hosts
[03:09] <justin-> SuSe use Yast package manager
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !yast |  justin-
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !yum
[03:10] <sebsebseb> justin-: there's apt and synaptic a GUI for it
[03:10] <sebsebseb> justin-: in Ubuntu
[03:11] <justin-> I tend to call things the wrong things alot..  Atleast I am not one of those people that thinks the Monitor is the computer.lo
[03:11] <sebsebseb> justin-: and   the add/remove GUI as well which can't do as much as synaptic by a long way
[03:11] <histo> !botabuse | sebsebseb
[03:11] <sebsebseb> histo: it might look like it, but I disagree
[03:11] <justin-> I know I was just wondering if you unpackage .RPM files or can you install a package manager like YaSt to d it?
[03:12] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: I take it its the line to add localhost, correct? qwhatever it is that it butchering my hostname also butchers /etc/hosts  and it is driveing me mad
[03:12] <sebsebseb> justin-: ah ha I see
[03:12] <mimiloon> hi everybody, is there an app for linux to open "OneNote" files?
[03:12] <sebsebseb> justin-: ok  Ubuntu  uses  DEB instead of  RPM,  no not Debian Debs,  Ubuntu Debs
[03:12] <n8tuser> !hostname | SeligArkin
[03:12] <sebsebseb> !debian |  justin-
[03:12] <Enissay> Hi guys, im having vlc runing in two separated windows, how can i fix that please? -Jaunty-
[03:13] <mrlexx> hey there all
[03:13] <sebsebseb> justin-: there is also  Alien  which can convert a RPM into a  DEB, it is also apparantly dangerous,   but  that's apparantly not true,  according to some people,  that have used it and that
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !alien |  justin-
[03:13] <justin-> repositories for Debian should not be used for ubuntu thats weird I thought ubuntu was a Debian fork... I had no problem installing YaSt on SuSe
[03:14] <zebastian> help i plugged my camera in and it recognized it but i am not sure if it's mounting right, i think i have acceess to the camera memory but not to the  memory card, is there a way to check if it's mounted and otherwis3e mount it?
[03:14] <mrlexx> is there a utility for proxy bouncing available for ubuntu?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> justin-: yes it's based on Debian, but there are quite a few differences here and there
[03:14] <sebsebseb> justin-: as a result you don't use Debian DEBS on Ubuntu  instead you use Ubuntu DEBS
[03:14] <llml> Anyone: I am using this irc web interface to talk here. i'd rather use irssi to connect to freenode. the case is i'm now behind a http proxy. how i can go pass it with a irc client like irssi?
[03:14] <IdleOne> justin-: ubuntu is not a fork of debian. it is based on debian
[03:14] <szczym> helo all i have following problem: i use ubuntu 8.04.3 server on p4 with 720 mb ram, i have only 2 copy processes over sshd (sshfs) and one cp from local ntfs disk to local ext3 (other disk). all system is very slow, i have 4.05 in top and its not very responsive. the cp process is 500 KB/s but should be 5MB/s. in top the moust intensive process is sshd with 0.3 cpu and mount.ntfs with 0.2 cpu. system is using only 200k of swap. could some one tell me how
[03:14] <szczym> i could diagnose its problem ?
[03:15] <mimiloon> is there a linux app to open "OneNote" files?
[03:15] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: maybe, but you can probably also  use OneNote rather nicely in Wine
[03:15] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: There is no System > Admininstration > Networking
[03:16] <beachbrake> my left speaker of the laptop is producing a 'tuk-tuk ' sound whenever i play ay music file, can anyone tell me why?
[03:16] <losher> sebsebseb: I think the danger of alien is in mistakenly encouraging people to think that just because they managed to install an rpm using it, that it was actually a reasonable thing to do...
[03:16] <Reactor> mimiloon: xD kick the Microsoft products
[03:16] <brian> hello?
[03:16] <brian> hi
[03:16] <brian> i have a question
[03:16] <brian> was hoping someone could answer it
[03:16] <losher> !ask | brian
[03:16] <brian> nice
[03:16] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> what are you trying to do?
[03:16] <brian> this one is fun
[03:16] <brian> well here goes
[03:16] <mimiloon> sebsebseb, i'll give that a shot
[03:16] <FloodBot2> brian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <Reactor> brian: ask
[03:16] <brian> ?? don't use enter as punctuation what does that mean?
[03:16] <beachbrake> my left speaker of the laptop is producing a 'tuk-tuk ' sound whenever i play ay music file, can anyone tell me why?
[03:17] <Reactor> brian: !!
[03:17] <brian> anyway
[03:17] <Jyxt> brian: it means dont type then hit enter, then type then hit enter
[03:17] <IdleOne> brian: means stop hitting the enter key every 3 words :)
[03:17] <llml> Anyone would please help me with the http proxy problem above?
[03:17] <mimiloon> Reactor, id love to but people are so stuburn (other ppl)
[03:17] <test34> brian, dont use 10 lines for one sentenc
[03:17] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: if that doesn't work  or you can't get it configured,   you can ask in #winehq for configuring help by the way,  anyway if it doesn't work you can  virtual machine Windows inside Ubuntu with enough RAM
[03:17] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: Stop whatever it is from butchering my hostname. /etc/hostname is set /etc/hosts is set - something still keeps setting my hostname to localhost.localdomain, I think its avahi because turning that off fixed the problems
[03:17] <Jyxt> put your statements, questions comments on as few lines as possible
[03:17] <losher> brian: it means just type everything on one line. irc will put its own line breaks in...
[03:17] <Reactor> mimiloon: but try to kick them also xD
[03:17] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> okay, you can turn off avahi it helps
[03:18] <n8tuser> if
[03:18] <brian> oh ok... alright here we go.  i have installed ubuntu jaunty using wubi.. and i would like to create an install cd for ubuntu using the exact settings that i've used... is it possible?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> losher:  ok it would be better to use a  Ubuntu DEB or  compile from source, but what's so wrong about using Alien to convert a  RPM into a DEB?
[03:18] <mimiloon> sebsebseb, thanks for the help
[03:18] <justin-> Would installing a .rpm file be any more wrong than using wine to install a microsoft .exe????
[03:18] <brian> a live cd in essence
[03:18] <xmnt> brian, all that buildup for that?
[03:18] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: The hosts file still gets butchered though, and this is driveing me batshit, I don't like my OS randomly breaking because something decided to frak with my hostname :/ Sorry if I am a bit irrate
[03:18] <sebsebseb> mimiloon: np and Virtualbox :)  I would recommend for virtulization
[03:18] <brian> well.. yes.. i don't know much yet i'm a newbie
[03:19] <mimiloon> Reactor, lol
[03:19] <m0r0n> Hey, whenever I plug in my record player Ubuntu insists on turning off my keyboard, any fix around that?
[03:19] <Reactor> mimiloon: thx
[03:19] <Reactor> mimiloon: ;)
[03:19] <test34> sebsebseb, I think RPMs dont always use the same directories for stuff (or not the same config files too)
[03:19] <brian> so, is it possible?
[03:19] <Dacvak> What's the program in Ubuntu that allows me to shrink a disk partition using Live CD?
[03:19] <sebsebseb> justin-: if you missed it, see above for the alien stuff
[03:20] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> try turning off avahi,  also what processes did you have before those things happens?
[03:20] <mimiloon> Reactor, your welcome
[03:20] <test34> using RPMs is not a good idea
[03:20] <brian> hmmmm..... anyway, i googled it and couldn't find anything
[03:20] <losher> sebsebseb: well, it's not against any religion I know of, but software intended for Ubuntu systems shouldn't be packaged using rpm in the first place, and it could mess up your system...
[03:20] <xmnt> test34, RPMs will use the same dir's if you tell them to - but i don't see why that matters - just use a deb
[03:20] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: It happens shortly after any network interface goes up
[03:20] <MK13> Dacvak, Gparted might work depending on partition type
[03:20] <n8tuser> Dacvak-> fdisk and gparted perhaps
[03:20] <Dacvak> Thanks
[03:20] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> look into your dhclient settings
[03:20] <brian> did i ask a foolish question?? noone answered it.
[03:21] <systest> "ifup -n eth1" shows static config as expected, but something keeps firing up DHCP on eth1, any idea what's fighting the interface/ifup config?
[03:21] <sebsebseb> brian: Wubi hmm
[03:21] <sebsebseb> brian:  I don't know the details, but it is possible to convert a Wubi install into a real proper partition :)
[03:21] <brian> i want to create a full fledged install cd... but i don't want to have to build it everytime i install it
[03:21] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: dhclient should not be getting used for my home network - as I have /etc/networks and wpasupplicant setup to use  static ip for my home network, but I will poke it
[03:22] <brian> it only takes a couple hours, but i want it to work "out of the box"
[03:22] <n8tuser> systest-> how did you determined that?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !remaster |  brian
[03:22] <systest> n8tuser: determin what, that it's DHCP client is clobbering the config?  By looking at the requests coming into the DHCP server.
[03:23] <markl_> is there an easy way to create url files on the ubuntu desktop?
[03:23] <Irving> question: i'm installing ubuntu, with an xp installed already on another partition, ubuntu asks me Do i want to try to unmount partitions on the disk /dev/sdb. should I say yes or no?
[03:23] <n8tuser> systest-> did the client ever get its ip address allocation? the request to a dhcp is usually several times til it gets a good one
[03:23] <sebsebseb> justin-: oh so something happended to you, and you missed the alien stuff?
[03:24] <systest> n8tuser: it shouldn't be trying to get a DHCP address of that interface.  It's configured static in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:24] <losher> brian: I'd say it's ambitious for a noobie...
[03:24] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: What is the "proper" way to disable avahi?
[03:24] <m0r0n> Is there a way to make my keyboard stay as a keyboard? When I plug in my record player I think Ubuntu thinks it's a keyboard
[03:24] <n8tuser> systest-> i dont know your network layout, can you paste a drawing? to show which interface goes to where?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Irving: two hard disks?
[03:25] <systest> n8tuser: that's the issue, it's configured static, "ifup" show's that it's reading config correctly but something keeps stomping on the config
[03:25] <losher> SeligArkin: use 'bum' to disable it at startup
[03:25] <Irving> one hard disk, 4 partitions XP on 1st
[03:25] <losher> !bum | SeligArkin
[03:25] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> id kill it with /etc/init.d/avahi  stop  and then use update-rc.d to remove it permanently..
[03:25]  * losher just loves typing 'bum'...
[03:26] <sebsebseb> losher: I like using the bot so
[03:26] <sebsebseb> !language |  losher
[03:26] <n8tuser> systest-> can you at least tell us how many interfaces you have active and how they interconnect to the dhcp?
[03:26] <SeligArkin> n8tuser: will an update cause it to return, or can I expect this to stay dead?
[03:27] <spursncowboys> What is the log that helps me see the activity of my router?
[03:27] <n8tuser> SeligArkin-> it may re-appear during update, not 100% sure
[03:27] <systest> n8tuser: 2 NICs, eth0 = DHCP, eth1=static
[03:27] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> is your box a router?
[03:27] <Irving> sebsebseb: can i direct message u
[03:27] <n8tuser> systest-> both on same subnet?
[03:28] <losher> SeligArkin: it should stay dead, if the developers do their job right, and avahi updates are rare anyway....
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: keep it in the channal  for now at least
[03:28] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: what box?
[03:28] <Irving> ok
[03:28] <Irving> did you see my last message
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: yes
[03:28] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> which box are you on?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Irving: How are you trying to partition?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Irving
[03:28] <Irving> didn't get to that screen yet
[03:28] <systest> n8tuser: yes.  and yes, I realize that's awkward, but that's not the final config, just doing some testing
[03:29] <sebsebseb> Irving: ok before a partition can be changed, it has to be unmounted
[03:29] <Irving> so i hsould hit yes
[03:29] <sebsebseb> lrvick: well I suppouse there's at least one exception to this, because  Vista can resize itself, when it's running
[03:29] <n8tuser> systest-> well think about it, you have one interface thats static, but your dchpclient on the other overruns the settings of your /etc/hosts..
[03:30] <spursncowboys> linksys
[03:30] <Irving> ok thank you
[03:30] <systest> n8tuser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272473/
[03:30] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: linksys
[03:30] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> also try to prefix your responses with a nic of the person you're corresponding with so it will not get lost
[03:30] <SeligArkin> Now: How do I lower the number of virtual desktops I have, I can't seem to find the window to do this.
[03:30] <sebsebseb> lrvick: I guess Vista version 2  (Windows 7) will be like Vista when it comes to that as well
[03:30] <Irving> oh
[03:31] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: ok
[03:31] <Irving> that was my external drive it saw
[03:31] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> you want to view the logs of your linksys router? do that with a browser
[03:31] <systest> n8tuser: that doesn't really make sense.  The system shouldn't be trying to start a DHCP client on eth1, regardless of what it did with eth0
[03:31] <alain973> hello
[03:31] <m0r0n> Does anyone own an ION Record player and has connected it to their computer with Ubuntu sucessfully?
[03:31] <Irving> i hope i didn't just screw up my drive
[03:31] <alain973> an ion no
[03:31] <sebsebseb> Irving: you unmounted your external drive?
[03:31] <Irving> yes
[03:31] <n8tuser> systest-> it make sense, one interface is static, then your dhcpclient on the other interface overrides your /etc/hosts
[03:31] <sebsebseb> Irving: ok that should be fine
[03:32] <Irving> whew ok
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Irving: when a partition is mounted it's being used,  then to stop it being used  for example an external hard disk, you unmount it
[03:32] <Irving> lots of stuffo nthere i dont want to lose, didnt mean to have that connected
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Irving: and you can't unmount the  Ubuntu partition  the /   when it's running,   hence using  a Live CD to resize it or whatever
[03:32] <systest> n8tuser: sorry, but I don't see what /etc/hosts has to do with the DHCP client changing the interface config of eth1
[03:32] <sebsebseb> lrvick: yes I was thinking sdb   another hard disk, hence why I asked if you had two
[03:33] <sebsebseb> lrvick: since sda  would be the first hard disk
[03:33] <Irving> oh
[03:33] <Irving> i see, yep that makes sense now
[03:33] <Irving> its getting late, ive been working on this for way to long
[03:33] <Irving> i had it 99% of the way there and I screwed up adding XP to the grub boot menu and everything went nuts on me :(
[03:33] <systest> n8tuser: it's not the IP or host name that's the issue here, it's that it get's a static address, then the DHCP client get's fired up and wipes out the interface (not in /etc/host but on the interface itself)
[03:33] <n8tuser> systest-> your interface seems incomplete, add the network and whatever else.. man interfaces
[03:34] <SeligArkin> Hmm, even after lowering the number of VDs I have to 4 - X is still using 354M VIRT according to htop and this still feels stupid high
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Irving: hmm  /home  can't be mounted either when Ubuntu is using it.   you can turn swapoff though swapoff, but that's not  really a partition as such
[03:34] <m0r0n> How do you monitor what is being plugged into your computer? With a log or something?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Irving: unmounted above
[03:34] <n8tuser> systest-> perhaps i mis-understood you, what you mean by getting wiped out?
[03:34] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: How do I do it with a browser?
[03:35] <sebsebseb> Irving: you installed Ubuntu?
[03:35] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> use the ip address of your linksys
[03:35] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> use the ip address of your linksys and put that in your browser as if you were trying to configure the linksys
[03:35] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: ok I am there
[03:35] <systest> n8tuser: ifup gives eth1 a static address as expect, a short time later, a DHCP request is sent from eth1 which re-configures the interface wiping out the static config
[03:36] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> so look around its management features, am not a linksys expert..poke around
[03:36] <sebsebseb> losher: when you install Ubuntu and put Grub on the MBR it should  add  Windows to it as well
[03:36] <sebsebseb> losher: wrong one
[03:36] <sebsebseb> Irving: above
[03:36] <losher> :-)
[03:36] <n8tuser> systest-> lets do this, look for your dchlient configs and pastebin it
[03:36] <systest> n8tuser: my question is, why is DHCP getting started on eth1 at all?
[03:36] <systest> n8tuser: k
[03:37] <Irving> ubuntus installing now
[03:37] <Irving> i was talking about way before, earlier today
[03:37] <n8tuser> systest-> somewhere in /var/lib/dhcp3/
[03:37] <Irving> i had ubuntu installed first, then tried to install xp
[03:37] <navetz> can someone help me fix my sounds. I can only use one sound application per startup. If i start youtube first, it is the only thing that can use my sound until I restart X.
[03:37] <sebsebseb> !grub | Irving
[03:37] <Mike_lifeguard> Where can I find detailed information about my hardware like amount of RAM, HDD, cpu speed+type, graphics/sound card etc?
[03:37] <Irving> then put grub back, got it to boot into ubuntu, but i messed it up when trying to get the boot menu
[03:37] <physic> can one give me link of video converter for ubuntu ?
[03:38] <spursncowboys> n8tuser: I will do that. ty for the help
[03:38] <systest> n8tuser: only shows eth0, which is what I would expect  (the DHCP server doesn't return a lease for eth1, I've black-listed it.)
[03:38] <n8tuser> spursncowboys-> you're welcome
[03:38] <n8tuser> systest-> how about just try  ifup eth1  without the -n option
[03:38] <systest> n8tuser: ifup eth1 works, for a time
[03:38] <Ashhh> Hiya people
[03:39] <sebsebseb> !hi | Ashhh
[03:39] <systest> n8tuser: then a DHCP process "undoes" what ifup eth1 did
[03:39] <n8tuser> systest-> and also try the complete settings of interfaces file
[03:39] <sohail> is there a way to install ubuntu from within a linux distro?
[03:39] <sohail> without burning a cd
[03:39] <sebsebseb> sohail: of course
[03:39] <Ashhh> prolly is
[03:39] <sohail> sebsebseb: how?
[03:39] <Ashhh> don't know it though
[03:39] <sebsebseb> sohail: a virtual machine :)
[03:39] <sohail> bah
[03:39] <Ashhh> lol
[03:40] <sebsebseb> sohail: Which distro   are you currently using?
[03:40] <Jyxt> sohail: i know you can install gentoo from within ubuntu
[03:40] <sohail> sebsebseb: ubuntu
[03:40] <sohail> :D
[03:40] <sohail> I just want to format it for my parents
[03:40] <systest> n8tuser: to the best of my knowledge, that is a complete config.  minimal, but complete, per man page only address and netmask are required
[03:40] <n8tuser> systest-> when you say undoes.. what happens to eth1 after? whats the ip address before and after?
[03:40] <sohail> and install the newest one
[03:40] <sohail> this is an older machine
[03:40] <Irving> sohail: virtual drive?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: yeah I heard that to, that Gentoo can be installed in nearly anything
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: or something like that hmm
[03:40] <Ashhh> oooo
[03:40] <bartek> Hi. I am running into an odd issue in that when I switch away from Gnome to a different windows manager, my keyboard layout is totally different. / becomes ├® and so forth. How can I change it to be globally affected?
[03:40] <sohail> meh, maybe I'll just burn a cd
[03:40] <n8tuser> systest-> go ahead and add those settings like network and gateway.
[03:40] <Jyxt> sebsebseb: yeah...long a you have the basic tools lke chroot and a compiler
[03:40] <sohail> now I gotta find my cds
[03:40] <Ashhh> Gentoo in my wrist watch
[03:40] <systest> ip before = 10.10.10.10,  after = "nothing"  (becuase the DHCP server does NOT give it an address)
[03:40] <sohail> still haven't unpacked
[03:40] <Jyxt> you can install gentoo from within anything
[03:40] <Ashhh> lol
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: Have you done it?
[03:41] <Jyxt> sebsebseb: yes, on my laptop...installed gentoo from the ubuntu live cd
[03:41] <n8tuser> systest-> go ahead and add those settings like network and gateway.  try it will you
[03:41] <systest> n8tuser: if I do that, there will be multiple default routes etc
[03:41] <Jyxt> systest: have you disabled the dhcp server on your router?
[03:41] <systest> n8tuser: sure, why not
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Jyxt: oh ok
[03:41] <Jyxt> havent been following you, but it seems that what you want right?
[03:41] <n8tuser> systest-> then why have two interfaces on same subnet?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> sohail: Which Ubuntu is currently on there?
[03:41] <sebsebseb> sohail: Did you mean to say that you wanted to upgrade?
[03:41] <systest> Jyxt: no DHCP anywhere other than the one on my server
[03:42] <sebsebseb> sohail: upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu, upgrade your install?
[03:42] <Ashhh> aww
[03:42] <tchago> hello there, sorry to interrupt, but could someone point me on the right direction? i need help with a nic on knoppix, but i'm guessing this is not the right place or the right time to ask for assistance...
[03:42] <Jyxt> systest: linksys router? just login to the default page 192.168.1.1 no user, admin password
[03:42] <Jyxt> and disable the dhcp server
[03:42] <Ashhh> join the knoppix server thingie
[03:42] <n8tuser> systest i think i have request a network layout drawing,  a pic is worth a thousand words..
[03:42] <systest> n8tuser: trying some experiments with NFS via alt interface.  interferes with traffic shaping on eht0
[03:42] <sebsebseb> tchago: you could try ##linux
[03:42] <tchago> thanks ;)
[03:42] <sebsebseb> tchago: np
[03:42] <SeligArkin> Thanks for the help, guys
[03:43] <systest> Jyxt: no DHCP servers other than the ubuntu based one I'm running on another box
[03:43] <n8tuser> Jyxt-> he is trying to have two interface on same subnet too.. usually causes issues if not done properly
[03:44] <sohail> seb
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !who |  sohail
[03:44] <sebsebseb> !tab | sohail
[03:44] <Jyxt> systest: ok so one iface gets dhcp address...the other is static?
[03:44] <ratapoil> how can you see what app is using a removable device?
[03:44] <sohail> sebsebseb: I have a newish computer that I am replacing to give to my parnets. my wife used to use this computer so I want to format it like new. It currently has ubuntu on it so I wanted to upgrade and format in one go
[03:44] <systest> Jyxt: y, that's how it's configured on the client side.
[03:44] <sohail> sebsebseb: make sense?
[03:45] <Jyxt> systest: well if the iface is configured to use a static ip...then the dhcp server wont touch it since it wont know to
[03:45] <Jyxt> the client contacts the server for an address...not the other way around
[03:45] <sebsebseb> sohail: upgrade and format?  by  removing Ubuntu and using a Live CD to put on a later version?
[03:45] <Irving> yay, finally got dual boot!
[03:46] <gwydionwaters> anyone ever have a segmentation fault crash filezilla?
[03:46] <sohail> sebse
[03:46] <sebsebseb> Irving: good :)
[03:46] <sohail> sebsebseb: yes but preferably without burning a cd
[03:46] <systest> Jyxt: k, so that's the problem.  The client is configured to do static on eth1.  It DOES do static on eth1, then 5 minutes later it does DHCP on eth1
[03:46] <gwydionwaters> irving: yay! me too, osx + 8.10
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !install |  sohail
[03:46] <sebsebseb> !usb |  sohail
[03:46] <ERoot> sohail: Do you have a flash drive. You can make a livedrive
[03:46] <systest> Jyxt: the question is,  WHY does it do DHCP on eth1, it's not configured to and shouldn't be
[03:46] <Jyxt> systest: /etc/conf.d/net is configured properly?
[03:46] <sebsebseb> sohail: which version is currently on there?
[03:47] <Jyxt> ie config_eth#=("null") or something similiar
[03:47] <ratapoil> what is the command to find an app that's keeping a FS to be dismounted?
[03:47] <Jyxt> i know i had an issue where my eth0 was coming up on startup...and thus trying to pull a dhcp addres...i wanted all my ifaces turned off and i turn then on manually
[03:47] <sohail> ERoot: nope no flash
[03:47] <Jyxt> adding config_eth0=("null") fixed that for me
[03:47] <systest> Jyxt: there is no  /etc/conf.d on this system, DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.04
[03:47] <Ashhh> woots
[03:47] <n8tuser> Jyxt-> thats not the file ubuntu uses
[03:47] <Ashhh> O.o
[03:47] <Jyxt> systest: oh...im a gentoo user myself :P
[03:48] <ERoot> sohail:dang
[03:48] <systest> lol
[03:48] <Ashhh> !add 2 + 2
[03:48] <Jyxt> systest: there must be a simliar file though
[03:48] <Ashhh> aww
[03:48] <sohail> I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and burn a dvd
[03:48] <systest> Jyxt: there is, it's /etc/network/interfaces
[03:48] <Ashhh> hiya kruykaze
[03:48] <Ashhh> :)
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> favourite ftp clients that are not buggy?
[03:49] <kruykaze> hi
[03:49] <Ashhh> filezilla
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> hello
[03:49] <Ashhh> hiya gwy
[03:49] <Ashhh> dionwaters
[03:49] <Jyxt> systest: hrm...try adding a line in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> i tried that, i get segmentation fault if run from term
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> nothing if from launcher
[03:49] <Jyxt> config_eth1=("null")
[03:49]  * Jyxt shrugs
[03:49] <ping0> i have a noob question...
[03:49] <gwydionwaters> and hello to you to ashhh
[03:49] <ERoot> Does anybody know about installing Ubuntu from the alternate install disk for a network install?
[03:49] <Ashhh> fire away ping
[03:49] <seidos> do you use latex?
[03:49] <Ashhh> O.o
[03:50] <seidos> LaTex rather
[03:50] <ping0> can i mount sftp from fstab ?
[03:50] <ping0> or do i need to use ... fuse or something
[03:50] <histo> !install | ERoot
[03:50] <Ashhh> um
[03:50] <gwydionwaters> perhaps i got the 64bit somehow? i am using 32 bit ppc
[03:50] <seidos> !latex
[03:50] <ping0> or maby fstab and fuse
[03:50] <Jyxt> ping0: using fuse...tool called sshfs you can add an entry to fstab
[03:50] <CaneToad> help please - my jaunty system is functional but moments ago all keyboard shift functionality stopped working inexplicably...i've unplugged the keyboard and replugged, didn't help....what do i do apart from logging out [question mark which i can't type]
[03:51] <ping0> ok
[03:51] <Therapsit> wouldn't let me change to Therapist.
[03:51] <systest> Jyxt: n8tuser: looks like it's a weird artifact of the DCHP client daemon.  I haven't touchd a think on the config, simply restarted NetworkManger which restarted DCHP client on eth0
[03:51] <ping0> why can i just mount it with just fstab ?
[03:51] <ping0> cant *
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: believe you can apt-get sshfs
[03:51] <ping0> yes
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: because fstab doesnt know how to use sftp
[03:51] <telaviv> i'm using an nvidia graphics card. Ubuntu always boots to an unwanted resolutions. I tried saving the resolution on my xorg.conf but still to no avail. The login screen is however on the correct resolution, it only changes after i log in
[03:51] <Therapsit> funny how y'all are talking about ubuntu
[03:51] <systest> Jyxt: n8tuser: it seems stable now, i.e. eth1 is static and hasn't been messed with for several minutes
[03:51] <ping0> aaa now i understand
[03:51] <n8tuser> systest-> well you still refuse to provide a network layout..
[03:51] <ping0> thx
[03:51] <Jyxt> ping0: but sshfs does
[03:51] <ratapoil> what is the command to find an app that's keeping a FS to be unmounted?
[03:51] <seidos> telaviv: that happened to me.  are you using the nv driver?
[03:52] <telaviv> yeap
[03:52] <systest> n8tuser: nothing to draw, 2 NICs to one SOHO switch
[03:52] <sevol> how can u re-add or launch the gnome network manager?
[03:52] <seidos> !nvidia
[03:52] <kruykaze> getting ready to upgrade to karmic: ihave my /home in a sep partition how do i make sure i don't loose it?
[03:52]  * Therapsit is awesome
[03:52] <systest> n8tuser:  eth0 -> SWITCH -< eth1
[03:52] <Therapsit> meh
[03:52] <sevol> re-add it to panel*
[03:52] <seidos> telaviv: have you tried other resolutions to see if it still happens?
[03:52] <Jyxt> ping0: once sshfs is installed you can add a line to fstab thats kind of like user@address  /mnt/point etc etc etc etc
[03:53] <n8tuser> systest-> now if you were a packet out of your ubuntu, which interface would you take? eth0 or eth1 ?
[03:53] <telaviv> nope, why would it?
[03:53] <Ashhh> etho
[03:53] <ping0> jyxt : ok :)
[03:53] <Ashhh> oooo
[03:53] <Ashhh> ghost
[03:54] <Ashhh> O.O
[03:54] <seidos> telaviv: troubleshooting.  I am reading this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia to see if I can help you.
[03:54] <Ashhh> !define erroneous
[03:54] <Ashhh> lol
[03:54] <systest> n8tuser: agree it's a bad config for other than this test,  but, to answer your Q, I would expect it to reply on the interface which was bound to the IP was talking to.
[03:55] <m0r0n> Hey, my keyboard doesn't work on desk 1 only 2
[03:55] <systest> n8tuser: which his exaclty what it's doing now that the the IP address isn't being removed from the eth1
[03:55] <n8tuser> systest -> well why work with a bad config?  do it right so you would not loss your hair. lol
[03:56] <Ashhh> um
[03:56] <seidos> telaviv: have you checked your xorg.0.log in /var/log?
[03:56] <Ashhh> move the second desk where the first desk is
[03:56] <Ashhh> that way
[03:56] <Ashhh> it'll work on the first one
[03:56] <telaviv> well i'm not missing resolution seidos, I can set it up as soon as i click system->display->(etc. . .) It just have to do that everytime i log in
[03:56] <systest> n8tuser: I'll have to add some hardware if I want truely want to spin up a seperate subnet.  this proof of concept confirms it's worth the effort to do that.
[03:57] <n8tuser> is there an easy way at all to map key combination  alt_right+y   to echo a string lets say "hello world"  ?    my turn to get help.. :P
[03:57] <wizzo50> !list
[03:57] <wizzo50>  /msg ubottu !bot
[03:57] <Ashhh> #list
[03:57] <Ashhh> !list
[03:57] <n8tuser> systest -> what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[03:57] <wizzo50> #list
[03:57] <Ashhh> Hiya wizzo
[03:58] <Ashhh> how's it hanging??
[03:58] <wizzo50> Hi
[03:58] <seidos> telaviv: I would recommend you read this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:58] <systest> n8tuser: wanted to verify some interaction / OS side config for multiple NICs with different traffic shaping
[03:58] <wizzo50> alright, yourself?
[03:58] <dragonlyre> so does anyone run ubuntu on a vm?
[03:58] <Ashhh> awesome
[03:58] <Ashhh> um
[03:58] <Ashhh> used to
[03:58] <Ashhh> well
[03:58] <Ashhh> not run it
[03:58] <telaviv> alright thank you seidos, also i'm checking out Xorg.0.log, thanks for the hint!
[03:58] <wizzo50> Ashhh: What you do today?
[03:58] <gwydionwaters> maybe if i compile filezilla myself it will not crash on start  O_o
[03:58] <systest> n8tuser: now that the OS side is stable, only took a few commands to very it works as expected.  Next step, add another switch.
[03:59] <Ashhh> just install it and then deleted the vm image and installed it and so on
[03:59] <Ashhh> use filezilla portable
[03:59] <Ashhh> oh
[03:59] <XAMELEON> Hello Linuksoidam
[03:59] <Ashhh> you're prolly using ubuntu
[03:59] <Ashhh> nm then
[03:59] <sebsebseb> dragonlyre: for trying it can be useful, but better to do a proper partitioned install
[03:59] <Ashhh> Wizzo: just being bored here
[03:59] <wizzo50> Ashhh: yes, Ubuntu
[03:59] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Ashhh wizzo50
[03:59] <Ashhh> lol
[04:00] <seidos> telaviv: buttom of the file, mentions your problem specifically
[04:00] <Ashhh> Ima go to ubuntu-offtopic
[04:00] <Ashhh> um
[04:00] <wizzo50> sebsebseb: Hi
[04:00] <sebsebseb> wizzo50: hi
[04:00] <quizme> libqt4-dbg  <--- where can i get this?  don't i need to modify /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[04:00] <dragonlyre> Oh I have parted out already just curiosity :)
[04:02] <systest> n8tuser: Jyxt:  Thanks all
[04:02] <telaviv> thanks alot seidos worked perfectly!
[04:02] <n8tuser> yw
[04:02] <ping0> jyxt: how does it work with the password if i use it with the fstab ?
[04:03] <Jyxt> ping0: i dont think you can
[04:04] <Jyxt> only keys as far as i know
[04:04] <Jyxt> !man sshfs
[04:04] <Jyxt> aww :(
[04:04] <Jyxt> !sshfs
[04:05] <m0r0n> Have people ever took over other peoples computer on Ubuntu
[04:05] <m0r0n> Unwillingly*
[04:06] <ping0> jyxt: hmm ok :S
[04:07] <losher> m0r0n: why bother, when there are apparently so many windows machines there just for the taking...?
[04:07] <m0r0n> losher:  My computer as if today, when I type, something likes to erase everything as I type
[04:07] <nic1> hello..i am gettng an error
[04:08] <nic1> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[04:08] <losher> m0r0n: Seriously? In firefox, or other programs?
[04:09] <m0r0n> losher: Everything.
[04:09] <joel> I'm tryingto install ubuntu along side windows 7 and am running into problems is anyone interested in trying to help me out?
[04:09] <gwydionwaters> whats up joel?
[04:10] <Guest79670> ok i finally got a new monitor still a CRT but a 2002 HP 17 inch everything works except the screen is just too dark its killing, me
[04:10] <ping0> jyxt:  think i have to rtfm ^^
[04:10] <webbb82> what irc client do you guys use
[04:10] <kruykaze> xchat
[04:10] <ubox> xchat
[04:10] <m0r0n> webbb82: KVirc
[04:10] <Irving> mIRC
[04:10] <joel> I've installed through wubi, but i want to install ubuntu to its own partition. when ubuntu tries to repartition though it hangs at 0%
[04:10] <webbb82> i was thinkin bout kvrc
[04:11] <kruykaze> used to use chatzilla but kept getting errors
[04:11] <joel> (im now installing from a live cd)
[04:11] <timClicks> hi all, are there any gmail notifiers that support google apps accounts (None in Add/Remove do)
[04:11] <ubox> what are you using to partition?
[04:11] <webbb82> i want one that i can save my most used chat rooms
[04:11] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I get information on my CPU(s)?
[04:11] <m0r0n> Mike_lifeguard: Heat? or what Usage?
[04:11] <joel> the live cd so im guessing gparted
[04:11] <Guest79670> monitor brightness?
[04:11] <kruykaze> Mike_lifeguard, system monitor
[04:12] <Mike_lifeguard> m0r0n: no, like what the hardware is... like what model they are
[04:12] <m0r0n> Mike_lifeguard: System>Administrator>System Monitor
[04:12] <ubox> hmm, i used parted from the, execute shell option. worked ok, then i used the gui one to assign uses etc
[04:12] <ubox> it was a bit of a pain
[04:12] <losher> m0r0n: never heard of such a thing. neither as an infection nor as a failure mode. What exactly do you mean by 'erase everything as I type'? Do you mean nothing echoes, like when you type a password?
[04:13] <webbb82> is there a irc client that will minamise to the system tray
[04:13] <ubox> ... dunno, that would be cool though
[04:13] <m0r0n> I can log in, but hmm this is odd, it's not happening yet. But when I plug in my record player, it starts the erasing when I try to type, if it lets me type at all
[04:13] <kruykaze> webbb82, xchat
[04:14] <ubox> your record player? into your computer?
[04:14] <ERoot> Hey, I'm fairly new but I've been looking around(googling essentially) about bluetooth issues and haven't found much. I installed Ubuntu on a friends computer with Wubi and what's wierd was his bluetooth mouse worked and his bluetooth keyboard didn't. The system was unusable.
[04:14] <Mike_lifeguard> webbb82: XChat
[04:15] <m0r0n> ubox: Yes, ION recordplayers do that, and it is possible for every record player to do so with the right equipment
[04:15] <joel> even windows wont shrink its own partion though, so im starting to thing it has something to do with win7. I managed to originally squeze like 4 gigs out and thats all windows would give (even though it has 140 gigs o so so give), but ubuntu wouldnt install in the new partiton i created. Recognises it but wont select for install.
[04:15] <losher> m0r0n: ok, that's not a 'takeover'. That's a hardware conflict between your usb keyboard and the (presumably) usb turntable...
[04:15] <zerothis> I have a weird thing to do. boot without my internal HD plugged in, them mount it. possible?
[04:15] <webbb82> lol xchat it is,,  what one,,  the one made just for gnnmoe
[04:15] <aleron6> DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW I CAN OPEN MY VIDEO CARD FILE
[04:16] <ubox> m0r0n: sweet
[04:16] <aleron6> FOR I CAN EDIT IT
[04:16] <ubox> joel: is win7's fs journaled?
[04:16] <IdleOne> !caps | aleron6
[04:16] <kruykaze> webbb82, the on ein soft channel
[04:16] <m0r0n> losher: I was reading the logs, and it is reading as an audio device, using some driver I cannot remember. and it's not even spinning when it happens
[04:16] <kruykaze> in*
[04:17] <webbb82> has anyone used quassei irc????????
[04:17] <maco> webbb82: using it right now
[04:17] <m0r0n> webbb82: Try em all out, it's easy to install and uninstall
[04:17] <webbb82> true
[04:17] <Guest79670> i use chatzilla and konversation
[04:17] <losher> m0r0n: Sorry, I know nothing about your turntable. Is it even known to work on Ubuntu?
[04:18] <Out_Cold> turntables work with buntu studio
[04:18] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/i/screenshotpj.png/ <--- Anyone know what I have to do to set that partition as flagged? someone told me I need to have it set as flagged in order to boot windows! please help
[04:18] <m0r0n> losher: Ya it is, I googled it people seem to have no problems at all
[04:18] <sevol> how do i re-add the network manager back to the panel?
[04:18] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8079/screenshotpj.png*
[04:19] <Vtec> Sevol right click press add to panel look for notification list or manager
[04:19] <Vtec> notification area*
[04:19] <sevol> Vtec: thank you
[04:19] <Vtec> no problem i did that earlier lol
[04:20] <Vtec> http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8079/screenshotpj.png <--- Anyone know what I have to do to set that partition as flagged? someone told me I need to have it set as flagged in order to boot windows! please help
[04:20] <Boondoklife> Vtec: try boot
[04:20] <Phrogz_> I have a 9.04 server coloc'd offset that is having network trouble. I can't ping it, it can't ping or resolve me, but we can both ping the same intermediary. Anyone able to help, either URL or with advice?
[04:20] <Phrogz_> s/offset/offsite/
[04:20] <Vtec> try? i don't wanna mes with stuff andn ot be sure lol
[04:20] <Boondoklife> Vtec: that is what mine is set to
[04:20] <Vtec> your windows one?
[04:21] <Boondoklife> Vtec: yea i have a partition there for flashing phones
[04:21] <Boondoklife> Vtec: you need it set to boot
[04:21] <Vtec> ahh alright
[04:21] <Vtec> tyvm boon
[04:21] <n8tuser> ARM joins the Linux Foundation...now if i can only load ubuntu on that old palm tungsten..
[04:22] <losher> m0r0n: the only thing I can suggest (and it's total guesswork) is to try a ps/2 keyboard and mouse if your mobo supports them...
[04:22] <Boondoklife> Vtec:  lates
[04:22] <Phrogz_> Bah, no traceroute on the box and apt-get can't resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com.
[04:23]  * Phrogz_ goes to learn about DNS servers.
[04:24] <losher> Phrogz_: run netstat -rn and see if the default route looks reasonable
[04:24] <webbb82> i just installed kvirc and the chat window has all these really really small horizontal lines going across the window
[04:25] <Phrogz_> losher: Not sure how to identify 'reasonable'.
[04:25] <pythagoras> anyone know any command line param..to flush cache
[04:26] <losher> Phrogz_: So cheat: Got any other machines at that site? See what they use for a default route. What does that intermediate system you mentioned use?
[04:26] <Phrogz_> losher: for destination 0.0.0.0 the gateway is 69.46.18.1/0.0.0.0 flags UG, however, I can't ping 69.46.18.1...does that sound bad?
[04:27] <Phrogz_> losher: I found the intermediate IP via   ping 69.46.18.0 -b  which hit   69.46.18.100 from the 'bad' machine, and I can ping that locally, too. I have no other machines coloc'd.
[04:28] <Phrogz_> locally == from this machine halfway across the US.
[04:28] <losher> Phrogz_: yes, that means anytime the box has packets it doesn't know what to do with, it will send them to  69.46.18.1, which is apparently down right now, which presumably explains why it stopped working...
[04:28] <Phrogz_> That gateway should be the ISP's responsibility, yes?
[04:29] <zobi1> I would like to backup the etc directory not periodically but only when a file changes in it. Is that possible?
[04:29] <nic1> how can i check what all nvidia drivers are installed on my machine?
[04:30] <kosystem> nic1 system>administrater>Hadware Drivers
[04:31] <default> 2
[04:31] <Guest5941> yiuy
[04:31] <losher> Phrogz_: that depends entirely on the details of the setup that I can't possibly know. Who owns 69.46.18.1? What does  69.46.18.100 use as its gateway?
[04:31] <Scarra3> Hey everyone
[04:31] <n8tuser> zobi1 -> yes, try the new upstart daemon
[04:31] <Phrogz_> losher: Alright, thanks. Going back to tech support at the ISP now to see if they'll claim responsibility. :)
[04:32] <Scarra3> Do you suggest I move the Ubuntu Alpha 5 or just stay with 9.04
[04:32] <Flannel> Scarra3: Stay with 9.04, especialy right now.
[04:32] <Scarra3> Why is ther somthing wrong with it
[04:32] <Phrogz_> losher: Thanks again, especially for netstat -rn; will have to remember that.
[04:33] <losher> zobi1: it's possible, but requires a bit of shell scripting. Might be easier to just back it up once a week regardless...
[04:33] <losher> Phrogz_: hope it gets sorted...
[04:33] <Evelina> Is it possible to display real clickable links on desktop using COnky?
[04:33] <zobi1> n8tuser: excellent. do you know of any backup scripts based on that?
[04:33] <losher> Scarra3: I moved back to 8.04 LTS. Just how lucky do you feel?
[04:33] <Scarra3> Why did you move to 8.04
[04:34] <losher> Scarra3: please use my name when talking to me, or I'll miss lines. I was sick of the 9.04 problems: sound, flash, wifi, lots of little things...
[04:34] <n8tuser> zobi1 -> you may have to google for it, also look into inotify and udev, these 3 newer features is something i yet to get a good grasp of
[04:35] <Scarra3> losher: ow I see I moved to 9.04 because it supported my wireless care without me having to use backports
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: yeah don't do 9.10 yet,  unless a developer or a proper tester
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: October 29th is the final of 9.10
[04:36] <physic> hello
[04:36] <losher> Scarra3: if it works for you, well & good. But anything labelled 'alpha' is pretty much guaranteed to be unstable and bug-ridden. Why would you do that to yourself?
[04:36] <sebsebseb> !hi |  physic
[04:36] <physic> http://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/UbuntuInstallation
[04:36] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ok thx for the advise. Ill stick with 9.04
[04:36] <physic> i have probloum with this link
[04:36] <sebsebseb> losher: indeed  problems/issues with 9.04 here and there
[04:37] <physic> how i can add repository?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: np
[04:37] <sebsebseb> !repo | physic
[04:37] <joel> You want to know problems try using 9.10
[04:37] <newmini9> greetings
[04:37] <newmini9> I
[04:37] <losher> sebsebseb: I wouldn't mind, but they somehow never seemed to get resolved. I've yet to see a solution for sound in 9.04 that's 100% reliable...
[04:37] <newmini9> I
[04:37] <FloodBot2> newmini9: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:37] <physic> what i have to do?
[04:38] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: how would I go about editing to look of Ubuntu like change the boot screen I already know how to change the UI and icons etc...
[04:38] <sebsebseb> losher: sure, but  that can also be a manufacture fault
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: with the  Ubuntu is loading screen, well  I would use  the Ubuntu one or the Kubuntu one,  I haven't  changed it otherwise
[04:39] <newmini9> I've a new dell mini 9 ... I remember finding a util to "reverse" from items already installed
[04:39] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ow ok ive only stuck with ubuntu I havent tried any other ones
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: also 9.10  has/will have some kind of  boot up screen effect, which looked quite nice by the video I saw
[04:40] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: you mean xsplash?
[04:40] <webbb82> im running ubuntu on a netbook with a small screen so whenever i open a app or window i cant see the bottem part of the window cause it was made for a bigger screen anyone know how to fix this
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: don't now
[04:40] <losher> sebsebseb: I agree, but the end result is that sound is unstable in 9.04 and apparently hasn't been able to be reliably fixed. Another release like this, and people may start migrating to other distros. I stopped using fedora because the opted for new features over stability...
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: I mean when the computer is first turned on or re booted, and Ubuntu has only just started to load up
[04:41] <sebsebseb> losher: well  Ubuntu opt for security updates over anything else :D
[04:41] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: also how do I set up desklets the ones that use cocky scripts
[04:41] <n8tuser> webbb82 -> i dont own a mini, have you tried increasing the resolution?
[04:41] <sebsebseb> Scarra3: don't know
[04:41] <newmini9> the mini 9 comes with some local installed apps I want to repackage as I plan on upgrading the mini 9 to ubuntu 8.10 or 9.04. Does anyone know what the util will be called?
[04:41] <Scarra3> sebsebseb: ok thx
[04:42] <axscode1> where can i disable ALT  on linux that moves the window when its is dragged?
[04:42] <astronut> so the 9.04 NBR installer somehow ate both my windows and recovery partitions - neither will boot correctly
[04:42] <henry> hihi
[04:42] <sebsebseb> losher: it seems every release  since  at least  8.04  has had a few common known issues
[04:42] <Guest42875> Want aask some Question
[04:42] <losher> sebsebseb: well I approve of a secure system. But I prefer a stable release over features, especially features I don't care about. Ext4 is nice, but it's not *necessary*
[04:42] <sebsebseb> losher: remember the nasty pulseaudio issues in 8.04 for example?
[04:42] <Guest42875> i installed UBUNTU server
[04:42] <Xcerca> whats the best way to .zip a file in ubuntu ?
[04:42] <nic1> how can i remove an installed package?
[04:43] <Guest42875> I don't have UI to login
[04:43] <nic1> what is the command?
[04:43] <joel> webbb82: you need to change your resolution probably. Can you see the bottom task bar/dock?
[04:43] <Guest42875> all in command base
[04:43] <n8tuser> Xcerca -> tar
[04:43] <nic1> sudo apt-get remove package-name
[04:43] <Scarra3> Does anyone know how I do these effects? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUSTw8Sr__8&feature=related
[04:43] <nic1> is this correct?
[04:43] <webbb82> yes
[04:43] <Scarra3> Around the mouse?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> losher: Maybe you should be using Debian Stable
[04:43] <shane2peru> Xcerca: in nautilus click on create archive
[04:43] <Guest42875> I just plugin a thumbdrive / pendrive into the server
[04:43] <webbb82> joel: yes i can
[04:43] <shane2peru> Xcerca: right click on the file you want to zip, and select create archive
[04:43] <Guest42875> may I know how can I get a file out from the tumbdrive?
[04:43] <Xcerca> n8tuser , shane2peru , thanks
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: Ext4 is the only  feature that is truely worth it when it comes to 9.04
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: unless  it fixes someones hardware issue
[04:44] <n8tuser> Guest42875 -> can you try a unique nick, hard to type your nick
[04:44] <sebsebseb> losher: for example
[04:44] <shane2peru> losher: they do have Hardy, which is LTS, and runs stable.
[04:44] <Xcerca> Scarra3 , in compiz it's highlight cursor
[04:44] <sebsebseb> shane2peru: yes he  went back to Hardy
[04:44] <Guest42875> how to unique nick?
[04:45] <Scarra3> Xcerca: ok thx I have been trying to figure that out
[04:45] <n8tuser> Guest42875 -> /nick nuname
[04:45] <nix-idioteque> hello friends, hello lovers.
[04:45] <sebsebseb> !love >  nix-idioteque
[04:45] <Xcerca> Scarra3 , i think you usualy have to press a button to do it, or you can make it always be like that
[04:45] <losher> sebsebseb: I may switch to debian, though for now I'm happy with 8.04 (hardy). It seems like a good compromise of stability & features. And since I almost never reboot it, I don't need ext4...
[04:45] <Irving> lol
[04:45] <necro\> so i take it there are some helpless souls needing help?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: at what?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: wrong one
[04:46] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yeah, you know much about keymapping you can assist me.
[04:46] <necro\> losher: jaunty when properly adjusted is more stable and responsive
[04:46] <sebsebseb> Irving: at what?
[04:46] <Irving> the bot
[04:46] <necro\> n8tuser: o?
[04:46] <necro\> keymapping mouse or kb
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> sebsebseb: Wow...  just...  Wow...
[04:46] <losher> necro\: someone called necro looking for souls to 'help'. That's scary....
[04:46] <sebsebseb> losher: ok, but do you even know what she sent him?
[04:46] <necro\> "D
[04:46] <Guest42875> is it a command?
[04:46] <n8tuser> necro\ -> how do i map a  alt_r + y to echo "hello world" ?
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> sebsebseb: had your heart broken a few times?
[04:46] <nix-idioteque> haha
[04:47] <sebsebseb> nix-idioteque: no
[04:47]  * losher thinks this channel is getting a bit surreal
[04:47] <necro\> n8tuser:
[04:47] <necro\> with bash?
[04:47] <nix-idioteque> losher: Surreal?  Big word, big boy :)
[04:47] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yah bash is the default shell
[04:47] <sebsebseb> losher: Ubuntu gaining  more market share on the desktop :)  is going to bring  loads of different types of people to this channal
[04:47] <necro\> n8tuser: ok gnome?
[04:48] <n8tuser> necro\ -> and yes gnome
[04:48] <necro\> ok
[04:48] <necro\> a. right click on applications and edit menu
[04:48] <Guest42875> my nick ---> henryloke
[04:48] <necro\> b. go to system tools and click to show the configuration menu
[04:48] <seidos> sebsebseb: any stats on ubuntu's market share?
[04:48] <necro\> c. open that and go to applications > nautilus
[04:48] <sebsebseb> seidos: nothing proper,  they can't measure Linux market share properly,  but I guess it has about 1 or 2%
[04:48] <losher> sebsebseb: I'm worried about getting more market share. If it gets too big, people will start writing viruses and bots targetting us. I'd rather stay obscure...
[04:48] <necro\> i forget b/c im not home sorry its either nautilus or metacity [i think the latter] that you can set global commands
[04:49] <n8tuser> necro\ -> command line way perhaps?  im not so big on gui
[04:49] <henry> test
[04:49] <necro\> so you set a global shortcut for command blah
[04:49] <henry> test123
[04:49] <sebsebseb> losher: I am not to worried about that, because of the way  Ubuntu and  other similar distros are designed
[04:49] <necro\> then edit command blah for:
[04:49] <merma> is ther somethng special i need to do to write win7 into a usb key with unetbootin?
[04:49] <henry> regarding the pendrive
[04:49] <necro\> gnome-terminal -e "echo "HELLO WORLD"
[04:49] <necro\> IN FACT
[04:49] <Guest81092> test
[04:49] <necro\> open a terminal and try the command
[04:49] <n8tuser> necro\ -> yah something like that, but i've perused so many tutorials i cant tell which is which anymore.
[04:49] <necro\> if it does what i say it does my path works
[04:50] <necro\> n8tuser: dont worry about that
[04:50] <necro\> i give complete instructions.
[04:50] <n8tuser> necro\ -> gnome-terminal? thats not a command is it?
[04:50] <henry> test
[04:50] <sebsebseb> losher: I have a feeling  that  Windows would still be the prime target, even if Ubuntu had say 20% market share on the desktop
[04:50] <necro\> http://www.codejacked.com/create-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-in-linux/
[04:51] <necro\> n8tuser: applications > accessories > terminal
[04:51] <n8tuser> necro\ -> i have a virtual console..or terminal
[04:51] <necro\> mm
[04:51] <necro\> actually
[04:51] <necro\> lemem think
[04:51] <necro\> i dont have a gtk linux near me just this second
[04:51] <necro\> gimme secs
[04:51] <henry9> how to change my name?
[04:51] <necro\> let me install X
[04:52] <henry9> hellow
[04:52] <n8tuser> necro\ -> okay, ill wait
[04:52] <DShepherd> is there a commandline too that can convert pdftotext or can read pdfs?
[04:52] <losher> sebsebseb: they do say that, but if the market is big enough, the motivation to write attack software will grow correspondingly. No current system is (or can be made) completely immune to viruses. We're just too small to bother about right now. Also, I dunno how much growth a support channel like this can sustain....
[04:52] <DShepherd> tool*
[04:52] <ajninami> Is there anything special I need to know about repartitioning Windows Vista for a dual-boot?
[04:52] <DShepherd> henry9: /nick newname
[04:52] <mneptok> losher: some faulty reasoning there
[04:52] <blueglasses> ubuntu needs more software, like for instance, a universal replacement for flash production, or a similar vectorial protocol wich can be freely distributed on the net, with a nice WORKING production set of tools with simple scripting
[04:52] <shane2peru> DShepherd: pdftotext
[04:53] <losher> mneptok: please enlighten me...
[04:53] <henry9> ok thanjks
[04:53] <henry9> Hi
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: you would have to read the man on it
[04:53] <KB1JWQ> blueglasses: I look forward to seeing your finished work.
[04:53] <henry9> I just plugin a pendrive to the server
[04:53] <DShepherd> shane2peru: lookee there...
[04:53] <DShepherd> shane2peru: thanks
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: seems to be part of the poppler-utils
[04:53] <mneptok> losher: Mac OS X currently enjoys close to a 10% markey share. by your logic, that would mean that 10% or so of malware would target OS X. that's clearly not the case.
[04:53] <henry9> may i know how can I move the file from the pendrive to the server?
[04:53] <necro\> gonna cost me 13M of diskspace to do this
[04:53] <n8tuser> ajninami -> id use the vistas tools to resize its own partition leaving you spaces for your ubuntu
[04:53] <mneptok> *market
[04:53] <shane2peru> DShepherd: so sudo apt-get install poppler-utils
[04:53] <sebsebseb> losher: I think it will get split up into a few channals,  when/if  there are much more users
[04:54] <n8tuser> necro\ -> you'd get it back in no time
[04:54] <DShepherd> shane2peru: i have it installed already. seems its installed by default
[04:54] <blueglasses> KB1JWQ, i'm not really a programmer
[04:54] <shane2peru> DShepherd: ok, great just man pdftotext and learn how to use it.
[04:54] <obiwan_> hi , please how can i restart x?
[04:55] <obiwan_> sudo startx and sudo service gdm restart won't work
[04:55] <mneptok> obiwan_: ctl-alt-backspace
[04:55] <ajninami> n8tuser: And where is that tool? You can't repartition from inside vista because the drive is in use... :\
[04:55] <obiwan_> i haven't that enabled
[04:55] <shane2peru> obiwan_: you don't want to run x as root,
[04:55] <obiwan_> mneptok,
[04:55] <mneptok> obiwan_: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[04:55] <DShepherd> obiwan_: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart #if your running gnome
[04:55] <blueglasses> I think linux is comming to maturity, it has the core, the tools, it just needs tweeking
[04:55] <obiwan_> why shane2peru ? i've done a lot xD
[04:55] <shane2peru> obiwan_: see DShepherd's restart method for ubuntu
[04:55] <losher> mneptok: interesting. I can't account for that. Unless there's some critical threshold below which it isn't economic to write viruses/bots...
[04:56] <obiwan_> ok i'll try DShepherd
[04:56] <obiwan_> thankssss
[04:56] <DShepherd> obiwan_: sure
[04:56] <sebsebseb> blueglasses: it has had that  basically for ages now on the server and the super computers, it's just the desktop hmm, but that's getting there to, even though most software companies and hardware companies do not suppourt it properly or at at all yet
[04:56] <obiwan_> that's the same
[04:56] <n8tuser> ajninami -> i cant remember, but i thought its within vista.. but my memory escape me now
[04:56] <nic1> how to restart X server in ubuntu?
[04:56] <obiwan_> that doesn't work either
[04:56] <Reactor> nic1: press Alt-SysRq-K
[04:56] <ajninami> n8tuser: but that'd be like running gparted on mounted partitions O-o
[04:57] <nic1> SysRq?
[04:57] <nic1> which is that key?
[04:57] <n8tuser> ajninami -> you are right, try the livecd gparted to resize it then
[04:57] <losher> blueglasses: it just needs a rock-solid GUI. If macs weren't so ridiculously overpriced, they would be giving windows soome real competition...
[04:58] <obiwan__> hi back
[04:58] <blueglasses> if people who spend time writing virus would spend time tweeking drawing and animation functions for common people use, we already had a good flash replacement in linux
[04:58] <sebsebseb> losher: indeed Apple are a joke really, since they don't compete properly against Windows
[04:58] <nic1> which is SysRq key??
[04:58] <obiwan__> it did actually work, it's just it was too slow for my nerves ahahha
[04:58] <obiwan__> printscreen
[04:58] <ajninami> losher: what amazes me is that "built on a rock-solid UNIX foundation" never gets translated into "I wonder what windows' foundation is & whether it is stable?" or "that sounds remarkably like linux"
[04:58] <obiwan__> key
[04:59] <shane2peru> nic1 I think he meant alt-sys del keys, or was it backspace
[04:59] <henry9> hi
[04:59] <losher> actually, a rock-solid gui isn't the only thing that's missing. The other is the wide range of applications that no-one can compete against windows currently...
[04:59] <j0n22> hi i would like to have some instructions to mount a new hard disk to a remote server and o transfer the full file system from the current one to new one
[04:59] <shane2peru> !hi | henry9
[05:00] <nic1> i gave alt-sysreq- K
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: printScr
[05:00] <blueglasses> the problem is mostly software. Linux has the hard tools done, and the basic user tools, also, it needs working guy software
[05:00] <nic1> dint work.
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: ?
[05:00] <obiwan__> linux has the best command line applications hehe
[05:00] <nic1> i have SysRq on my Del key
[05:00] <j0n22> is it like format the whole hdd and reboot it after changing /etc/fstab
[05:00] <j0n22> ?
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: nono
[05:00] <sebsebseb> losher: Wine and Windows virtual machines :D
[05:00] <nic1> ya no effect with tat combination
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: PrintScreen
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: I mean
[05:00] <obiwan__> nobody dares dueling linux in command line haha
[05:00] <nic1> ok.
[05:00] <Reactor> nic1: Alt-PrintScreen-K
[05:00] <blueglasses> we are getting that kind of software faster from the clowd then from repositories
[05:00] <losher> ajninami: actually, windows people do concern themselves with issues of underlying stability. It's one reason XP is still the most popular system I think
[05:01] <nic1> capital k, is it?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> blueglasses: the repos have  good software in them
[05:01] <shane2peru> Reactor: did they change it???  always was ctrl-alt backspace
[05:01] <nic1> no effect with any k..
[05:01] <Reactor> losher: XP is very unstable
[05:01] <hey_boy> Hello Room. Newly installed Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop. I want to close all the ports on my system. How do I do that?
[05:01] <n8tuser> j0n22 -> look into sshfs command
[05:01] <Reactor> shane2Peru: probably
[05:01] <shane2peru> nic1: try alt-ctrl backspace
[05:01] <ajninami> !ufw | hey_boy
[05:02] <Reactor> shane2Peru: but I have working A-lPrScr-K
[05:02] <Reactor> shane2Peru: but I have working Alt-PrScr-K
[05:02] <blueglasses> sebastien_, I know, but when i try to run firefox, they dont let me use the last version
[05:02] <mneptok> losher blueglasses Reactor sebsebseb ajninami: interesting topic, but it's still -offtopic material.
[05:02] <sebsebseb> mneptok: I was wondering when that was coming, and indeed,  plus you took part in it yourself a tiny bit earlier :D
[05:02] <Reactor> mneptok: ok sorry ;)
[05:02]  * losher wondered when someone would comment on how offtopic we've gotten
[05:02] <shane2peru> hey_boy: install gufw it is the graphical front for it
[05:02] <n8tuser> j0n22 -> sshfs username@ipaddress:/remotepath ~/remoteserv
[05:02] <blueglasses> and when I try skype, I have to use an old version
[05:03] <j0n22> n8tuser: i got root access to the system
[05:03] <shane2peru> Reactor: I don't feel like hiting anything and logging out. :)
[05:03] <mneptok> sebsebseb: my prior -offtopic-ness has no bearing.
[05:03] <j0n22> i can see that the new disk is /dev/sdb
[05:03] <n8tuser> j0n22 -> then do that in reverse..
[05:03]  * losher is happy to continue this on #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:03] <Reactor> shane2peru: and how to restart xwindow without logging out?
[05:03] <blueglasses> mneptok, true, but you have to start the topic somewhere
[05:03] <mneptok> sebsebseb: tell you what, i'll /kick myself and ban you. fair? >;)
[05:03]  * blueglasses either
[05:04] <sebsebseb> mneptok: no you can kick yourself and maybe ban yourself, that's more fair
[05:04] <shane2peru> Reactor: no, I didn't need too, nic1 was asking but I don't want to try it to see if it works
[05:04] <blueglasses> nope, just move to offtopic
[05:04] <Reactor> shane2peru: ok xry
[05:04] <Reactor> shane2peru: sry*
[05:04] <blueglasses> the trouble is audience
[05:04] <dserban> how do i trace what's causing my box to hard lock up?
[05:04] <shane2peru> Reactor: no prob
[05:05] <sebsebseb> blueglasses: I don't like offtopic much, but I am in there now
[05:05] <shane2peru> dserban on the command line run dmesg and also check the logs
[05:05] <shane2peru> dserban is there anything you are doing/running on a regular basis when it locks up?
[05:06] <dserban> not really, januty mythbuntu...
[05:06] <dserban> err jaunty
[05:06] <dserban> there's not much in the logs
[05:06] <n8tuser> whoever is running the latest 9.04?  is there anything new and more prevalent usage of upstart?
[05:06] <dserban> it just locks up completely
[05:06] <phix> dserban: no good
[05:06] <shane2peru> dserban what are you running on?  Laptop?  Desktop?  64bit?  32?
[05:07] <phix> n8tuser: hmmmm, what to you mean?
[05:07] <phix> n8tuser: what's your problem?
[05:07] <dserban> 32bit desktop
[05:07] <n8tuser> phix more usage of upstart, you're familiar with it?
[05:07] <shane2peru> dserban could possibly be hardware?  perhaps ram, or hdd?  is it old?
[05:07] <phix> n8tuser: you mean it takes longer for your computer to boot up?
[05:07] <n8tuser> phix its not a problem of mine, its more of trying to learn whats the usage of upstart.
[05:07] <arrrghhh> is there a command i can pass that will determine whether my processor can do 64-bit or not?
[05:07] <dserban> I've run memtest for two days no lock, i've run stress with max settings... no locks...  seems to be software related
[05:07] <arrrghhh> lspci or dmesg didn't seem to help...
[05:08] <phix> n8tuser: upstart?
[05:08] <xdude> join
[05:08] <losher> Reactor: please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic where you can try and justify your outrageous statement :-)
[05:08] <dserban> well yeah it's somewhat old.. in relative terms.. but nothing ancient
[05:08] <n8tuser> phix thats the daemon thats replacing the init style
[05:08] <Reactor> losher: ok
[05:08] <shane2peru> dserban seems if it was software it would be in the logs, not sure what to tell you, specially if you have run hardware checks
[05:08] <dserban> I don't even know what to report against...
[05:09] <nic1> alt-clt-back space restarted my machine
[05:09] <phix> n8tuser: ah ok :)
[05:09] <phix> n8tuser: aawww I like init
[05:09] <dserban> i've had errors from polkit-read-auth-helper reported... but ... i don't know what else to look at
[05:09] <arrrghhh> nic1, close, it restarted the X server.
[05:09] <nic1> that would have started my x server also
[05:09] <shane2peru> nic1 I thought it was backspace I didn't want to try it though. :)
[05:09] <n8tuser> phix you have toyed  with it much? any utilities you use to monitor something to trigger?
[05:10] <dserban> dmesg doesn't show anything (after a reboot).. and syslog isn't showing much else
[05:10] <phix> n8tuser: you use it to trigger things / keep things spawned?
[05:10] <n8tuser> phix yes, its event driven
[05:11] <phix> nice
[05:11] <tarelerulz> So, has flash player gotten to where it works better ?
[05:11] <dserban> i just got an error from console-kit-daemon 'failed to open file /proc/46097/environ'
[05:12] <webbb82> is there any way to get windows to go above the top panel
[05:12] <n8tuser> dserban -> see whats the pid 46097 is
[05:12] <arrrghhh> webbb82, you can add that applet to the top bar and remove it from the bottom one...
[05:13] <shane2peru> webbb82: you can right click on the panel and select properties auto hide
[05:13] <dserban> n8tuser: it's non-existent
[05:13] <arrrghhh> webbb82, maybe i misunderstood your question...
[05:13] <phix> tarelerulz: I run Firefox under wine with Windows Flash Player installed, works better than the Linux verion of flash
[05:13] <webbb82> arrrghhh, what applets are you talki nbout
[05:14] <n8tuser> dserban -> that will very difficult to track down.. happens often enuff?
[05:14] <arrrghhh> webbb82, like i said i may have misunderstood your question... do you want windows to minimize to the top bar?
[05:14] <webbb82> like if i want to move a window around i want it to be able to go under the top panel
[05:14] <chingus> Phix if you just input sudo apt-get install abode-flashplugin you will get extremely fast video streams etc as compared to windows flash...
[05:14] <tarelerulz> Phix , how much better are we talking ? Flash that is
[05:14] <chingus> Speed wise Ubuntu flash seems better.
[05:14] <arrrghhh> flash sucks.
[05:14] <user_> cewek_manis
[05:15] <arrrghhh> i don't care what platform.  although my experience is flash is worse under linux...
[05:15] <phix> tarelerulz: well I can play poker :) it doesn't work under linux version of flash
[05:15] <webbb82> like f a window is too big to see it all on the screen i want to be able drag the window above the top panel
[05:15] <tarelerulz> I have used Flash for years on Ubuntu and it never seem to work right.  I don't know what you are talking about .  Either you all just lucky or there some way to get it working better
[05:15] <arrrghhh> webbb82, well you can hold the alt key when dragging windows, not sure how far it'll let you drag it tho.
[05:16] <n8tuser> speaking of flash and firefox, can you guys try  scriblink.com and click on the pie symbol/icon and see the math symbols?  seems to only work okay on iexplorer..
[05:16] <aliasp> why not grab it and drag the window to the side or switch the desktop
[05:16] <shane2peru> webbb82: arrrghhh alt key and clicking on window does it
[05:16] <arrrghhh> tarelerulz, flash works for me in linux.  it just sucks.
[05:16] <webbb82> if i try to drag the window up it will stop at the top panel and not go any higher
[05:17] <tarelerulz> Phix, What build of Wine do  you have firefox running under?
[05:17] <arrrghhh> webbb82, like i said you can hold the alt key while dragging, but it doesn't let you drag it that much higher beyond the panel.
[05:17] <shane2peru> webbb82: that is odd, I just did it with this window
[05:17] <arrrghhh> assuming the window isn't maximized.
[05:17] <dserban> wow firefox just segfaulted
[05:17] <dserban> crap
[05:17] <webbb82> yA i cant do it
[05:17] <shane2peru> webbb82: hit the alt key and just click anywhere on the window and drag it
[05:18] <phix> tarelerulz: what ever the ubuntu version is
[05:18] <phix> in jaunty
[05:18] <obiwan__> please 1 question, do you know links? the internet text line program? is there any way the 'less' command works the same way? i mean: don't take hundreds of lines of the current terminal but a single terminal screen size and display text in there, just like links
[05:19] <webbb82> the top part of any window stops at the panel
[05:19] <tarelerulz> 3.5 is what Jaunty is said to run. I don't know not ran it yet ,but flash is the last thing I can't get running well at all .
[05:19] <obiwan__> for flash flashplugin-nonfree works well :)
[05:20] <shutter1234> i dual boot ubuntu/winxp. past few days ive noticed some strange file space issues...i opened up disk usage analyzer...says total filesystem usage 29.4g....this is ONLY including the ubuntu partition correct?
[05:20] <talntid> obiwan_use vim or nano? or am i missing the point of the question?
[05:20] <shane2peru> webbb82: are you clicking at the bottom part of the window?  that is odd, mine seems to do it on several windows
[05:20] <tjohn> can anyone help me set up my  microsoft bluetooth mouse, ive tried all the tutorials but cant seem to get it registered
[05:20] <tarelerulz> I don't think 40-60 % of  may cpu is well at all. My be you all have better hardware then I do.
[05:20] <webbb82> i can go left of the screen and right but not thetop
[05:20] <talntid> dual quads, 16b ram :)
[05:21] <webbb82> they can go below the screen too
[05:21] <shane2peru> shutter1234: no, that must include your home files too, no way can that be just the filesystem
[05:21] <shane2peru> webbb82: yep, either way for me
[05:21] <shutter1234> shane2peru, home files?
[05:21] <shane2peru> shutter1234: your user files
[05:21] <webbb82> shane i dunno then
[05:21] <shutter1234> i'm not sure i follow
[05:22] <shane2peru> shutter1234: did you install /home on a separate partition? or just install everything to one partition
[05:22] <xangua> !br
[05:22] <aliasp> dual booting windows/ubuntu  is crazy man
[05:22] <shane2peru> shutter1234: you probably installed everything to one partition especially if it is 29GB worth of files
[05:22] <shutter1234> shane2peru, yeah, it's all one partition, one for ubuntu one for win
[05:23] <shutter1234> i ask because i deleted some about 3 gigs worth of files on ubuntu and ended up with LESS psace than i did before
[05:23] <shane2peru> shutter1234: in that case all your files and system files are included in that 29gb stuff
[05:23] <shutter1234> believe my HD is corrupted but just trying to look it over
[05:24] <tarelerulz>  I am running one flash player video and  one cpu is running at 33 and other at 37 is that normal ? 3.5 firefox
[05:24] <shane2peru> shutter1234: have you emptied the trash?
[05:24] <shutter1234> shane2peru, yeah
[05:24] <xmnt> tarelerulz, you can think adobe for that
[05:24] <shane2peru> shutter1234: I find it hard to believe that the HD is corrupted, but I guess it isn't impossible
[05:24] <xmnt> tarelerulz, i have 4 cores ... w/ flash video core 3 hits 99%
[05:24] <shutter1234> it all started with me using brasero, it kept saying i did not have enough to write the image or whatever, so i deleted about 3 gigs to give it more room to make the temp image
[05:25] <arrrghhh> tarelerulz, flash sucks for linux.  flash sucks for windows too, just not quite as hard.  gnash is promising, but not anywhere near what i would consider "production" or "stable" if you will.
[05:25] <shane2peru> shutter1234: ahh, brasero, say no more
[05:25] <shutter1234> and still did not work (cannot burn audio disks right now, it says i need around 700 or so mb and right clicking on filesystem says I have a little under a gig free space)
[05:25] <aliasp> hello anybody solve the vista desktop look a like
[05:25] <shutter1234> lol yeah i hear you....been reading up on people have issues with brasero
[05:25] <shane2peru> shutter1234: you have a brasero problem, not a hd corruption problem
[05:26] <arrrghhh> solution?  use k3b.
[05:26] <shane2peru> shutter1234: use k3b it will pull in some kde dependencies, but it is worth it
[05:26] <xmnt> aliasp, i spend as much time trying to not have my desktop look like vista personally
[05:26] <shane2peru> shutter1234: sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:26] <arrrghhh> aliasp, yea, not a fan of the vista look.  xp with a tuxedo.
[05:26] <tarelerulz> Flash don't suck for windows , I use it all the time and run couple tab with  videos and never think anything of it. When I do the same thing with Linux it runs like 70% of my cpus .  It can't be doing that in windows or I would think I would notice it
[05:26] <Pupuser4eee> helow hola
[05:26] <shutter1234> shane2peru, that's my plan, but i'm still trying to figure out why it's saying i have less space after i cleared more space
[05:26] <aliasp> how about go to opera and add the analog clock or
[05:26] <losher> shutter1234: after deletion, did you actually *empty* your trash? Otherwise it's still using disk space...
[05:27] <shutter1234> yeah, trash it deleted
[05:27] <shutter1234> or emptied rather, excuse me
[05:27] <arrrghhh> tarelerulz, it's still choppy and craptacular.  renders stuff poorly, slowly, bad bad framework if you can even call it that.
[05:27] <shane2peru> shutter1234: because brasero probably has some tmp files somewhere eating space, reboot should clear that.
[05:27] <shutter1234> shane2peru, already rebooted
[05:27] <shutter1234> that was my guess also
[05:27] <shutter1234> it's perplexed me
[05:27] <xmnt> tarelerulz, yeah like i said you can thank adobe for that
[05:28] <losher> shutter1234: can you open a terminal, run df -h, and paste the results to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[05:28] <shutter1234> losher, definitely, one minute
[05:28] <shane2peru> shutter1234: I have run into this before, but don't remember what happened, you are going to have to find the braser junk and delete it
[05:28] <tarelerulz> after the flash video is download  , Flash seem to run at around 30-40 % on both cpu .  I would do wine and firefox if That would help at all.  Flash is the last bit I don't have working . I would never go back to windows or at lest very less
[05:28] <shane2peru> shutter1234: losher can help you
[05:28] <aliasp> im a nub at this okay started out with vista
[05:29] <thisdotpheonix> are there any widget application for gnome similar to kde
[05:29] <shutter1234> sorry for any lag, i'm on dialup
[05:29] <thisdotpheonix> ?
[05:29] <xmnt> YES! ... get cairo dock ... and you can have your vista
[05:30] <losher> shutter1234: take your time, I'm not going anywhere (literally & metaphorically)
[05:30] <shutter1234> i slash noticed you the past link
[05:30] <shutter1234> *paste
[05:30] <aliasp> however to get the same apps in ubuntu move the main ubuntu menu to the lower left corner wha la!
[05:31] <shutter1234> shane2peru, but thanks for clarifying that my initial concerns were probably on mark and making me feel like i i took the appropriate steps
[05:31] <losher> shutter1234: dunno what /notice was supposed to do, but it didn't work. Just tell me the url here...
[05:31] <shutter1234> so that in and of itself has been a help
[05:31] <shutter1234> losher, okay, didn't know if it was proper to do it in main
[05:31] <shutter1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/272502/
[05:31] <shane2peru> shutter1234: no prob
[05:31] <losher> shutter1234: it's harmless as long as there are no passwords :-)
[05:32] <shutter1234> lol
[05:32] <xmnt> shutter1234, why did you leave your root password in there?
[05:32] <thisdotpheonix> hello any one listning out to me
[05:32] <Bluey> sup this?
[05:32] <thisdotpheonix>  are there any widget application for gnome similar to kde
[05:33] <shutter1234> xmnt, i wasn't aware that I did...?
[05:33] <Bluey> this - I'm not sure what you mean....
[05:33] <shutter1234> maybe you're just joking, or maybe i really am that stupid
[05:33] <wearetherock> 'yes' command use for what?
[05:33] <xmnt> no, i'm kidding
[05:33] <shutter1234> xmnt, oh okay...then i'm just naive
[05:34] <shutter1234> you definitely had me glancing at the paste though
[05:34] <Bluey> this == widgets are for opera, and kde and gnome are gui's
[05:34] <losher> ok, your biggest partition is /dev/sda5 and you have about 1G free on it. Lets find out where the space is going. Please type the following: sudo -i
[05:34] <losher>  
[05:34] <xmnt> shutter1234, you should always be careful - many moons ago I accidently posted a mysql user/pass on a forum - I facepalmed
[05:35] <losher> xmnt: I posted my nick password once when I mistyped...
[05:35] <losher> shutter1234: ok, your biggest partition is /dev/sda5 and you have about 1G free on it. Lets find out where the space is going. Please type the following: sudo -i
[05:35] <losher>  
[05:35]  * shutter1234 has also posted his nick password accidentally before
[05:35] <losher> I have my nick stuff automated now :-)
[05:35] <shutter1234> okay now what
[05:35] <shutter1234> i'm root
[05:36] <losher> shutter1234: cd /; du -x | sort -rn > du,out
[05:36] <losher> shutter1234: then just sit on your hands, it'll take a while for it to look through the whole root partition
[05:36] <shutter1234> okay losher...i'm going to take a cig break
[05:37] <losher> shutter1234: when it finishes, you will have a listing of all files & directories, largest to smallest...
[05:37] <shutter1234> I'll see you in a few minutes. thanks for hanging in with me
[05:37] <shutter1234> brb
[05:37] <shutter1234> wait
[05:37] <revenge> Ok i am using SSF emulator in wine, it works great although with bin/cue files it never recognizes the bin file only the cue it seems
[05:37] <losher> shutter1234: ok. Think about starting nicorette...
[05:37] <aliasp>  hello anybody know how to add files to the tree in ubuntu
[05:37] <abcdefg> someone knows this gooby editor?
[05:37] <shutter1234> du: cannot access ./home/jay.gvfs': perm denied
[05:38] <abcdefg> There is some security risk for testingit with unknow people?
[05:38] <losher> shutter1234: doesn't matter, nothing on there anyway...
[05:38] <shutter1234> losher, I use nikorette for p2p...but yeah, I do want to quit smoking. my will power is no good
[05:38] <losher> shutter1234: I tried multiple times before it took...
[05:38] <shutter1234> losher, it went back to the root prompt
[05:38] <shutter1234> so I don't think it's doing anything anymore
[05:39] <shane2peru> shutter1234: it will be in a file called du,out
[05:39] <losher> shutter1234: ok. now to more du,out. Sizes are in K. Largest file/directory at the top. Wanna paste the top 20 lines or so?
[05:39] <shane2peru> losher: cool command
[05:39] <shutter1234> oh, so it wouldn't show it in the terminal
[05:40] <losher> shane2peru: the only way to find where the space went :-)
[05:40] <losher> shutter1234: use 'more du.out'
[05:40] <shutter1234> all right
[05:40] <shane2peru> losher: I ran it on my home directory without root to see where my space is ;)
[05:40] <shutter1234> i think i might need to change directories
[05:40] <shutter1234> where would du.out be?
[05:41] <quizme> how do i install ccmake on jaunty ?
[05:41] <losher> shutter1234: if you typed what I told you, you should be in / and du,out should be there. Do 'ls -l' and see if it's there...
[05:41] <shutter1234> it's not
[05:41] <llua> how do i make firefox 3.5 my default browser when clicking on links etc?
[05:41] <shutter1234> no, it is
[05:41] <shutter1234> sorry, i see it
[05:41] <wearetherock> ccmake or just cmake?
[05:41] <obiwan__> please 1 question, when 2 files start by the same name, completion just takes up to where their names fork. Isn't there any way to complete all of them with a key? (arrow keys up &down don't work)
[05:41] <losher> shutter1234: there was a typo in the command I gave you. the file is mis-named du,out i.e. a comma, not a period, ok?
[05:42] <shutter1234> it was just du,out
[05:42] <shutter1234> instead of du.out
[05:42] <shutter1234> yeah, just noticed
[05:42] <losher> shutter1234: right, so just 'more du,out' with a comma instead...
[05:43] <shutter1234> i did, one sec
[05:43] <losher> obiwan__: try hitting tab twice. In some shells, it's ctrl-d instead...
[05:43] <shutter1234> could i take a time out for a second and mention something I see?
[05:43] <obiwan__> i tried losher that was the first :P
[05:44] <losher> shutter1234: sure...
[05:44] <obiwan__> i'll try ctrl d hope it does :(
[05:44] <shutter1234> i see /home/jay/.local/share/Trash/files/music 3 and things of that sort
[05:44] <shutter1234> this may be the issue?
[05:44] <losher> obiwan__: google filename completion for bash. It's configurable...
[05:45] <losher> shutter1234: yes, that looks like unemptied trash. How big is it?
[05:45] <shane2peru> shutter1234: ahh, there was an issue with trash not being emptied too, that is probably it
[05:45] <losher> shutter1234: shane2peru: bah, nautlius...
[05:45] <shane2peru> losher: he will probably have to manually empty it with root
[05:45] <skimj> Hey guys. How do I boot the liveCD into a command line (no gui)? I've done this before but now I can't remember how.
[05:45] <losher> shane2peru: agreed. When he's ready, we'll walk him through it...
[05:46] <Roasted> Does anybody know if WICD will happen to be the default network manager instead of the regular network manager currently in jaunty?
[05:46] <shane2peru> losher: I'm out of here, catch ya later
[05:46] <shutter1234> take care shane2peru
[05:46] <losher> shane2peru: ok, see ya...
[05:46] <maxolase1squad> What is the correct channel for help learning packaging?
[05:46] <losher> shutter1234: ready to paste the top 20 lines of du,out?
[05:46] <shutter1234> yeah one sec sorry
[05:47] <obiwan__> nope, neither ctrl d, i googled a lot but i can't simply find a solution :( . Anyway, double tabbing shows a list of all matching so i can type next letter and then tab again to complete
[05:47] <shutter1234> got caught up in another perplexing moment
[05:47] <obiwan__> another question is this
[05:47] <obiwan__> please 1 question, do you know links? the internet text line program? is there any way the 'less' command works the same way? i mean: don't take hundreds of lines of the current terminal but a single terminal screen size and display text in there, just like links
[05:47] <tarelerulz> Firefox 3.5.3 is out . I thought there was just 3.5.3
[05:47] <shutter1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/272509/
[05:48] <deadlyallance647> whats a good channel for programing
[05:48] <bullgard> [GNOME] Klicking on Places > Computer shows in Nautilus "Location:=computer:///" which allows to select  unmounted disk partitions, my CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive, and 'Filesystem'. Is this location to mimic the Windows folder 'My_Computer'?
[05:48] <shutter1234> i'd rather just restore the things in the trash
[05:49] <Biovore> deadlyallance647: what language?
[05:49] <edbian> I'm looking for a good IDE for C++.  I'd like syntax highlighting.  Data trees and a decent debugger that shows variables at different times and has the typical break points.  Step in, over, out and such.  Any suggestions?
[05:49] <shutter1234> instead of emptying it, but it does interest me that i actually emptied and with my own eyes saw nothing in the trash
[05:49] <crdlb> bullgard: it is similar, yes
[05:49] <deadlyallance647> iam using vb
[05:49] <Bluey> shutter - yeah I've seen that too
[05:50] <ScottG> Is there a way to focus a window from the command line?
[05:50] <maxolase1squad> edbian: Eclipse is pretty good and heavily used across the industry.
[05:50] <Bluey> ?
[05:50] <shutter1234> losher, if it's not an inconvenience...i'm going to take that cig break
[05:50] <deadlyallance647> biovore iam a noob and am using vs.net express
[05:50] <losher> shutter1234: ok, so you can see from the listing, stuff in /home/jay/Music takes the most space, followed by /usr which you can't really delete anything from, followed by /home/jay/.local/share/Trash which has about 2G in it. Apparently it didn't empty it after all. Do you wanna delete it?
[05:50] <edbian> maxolase1squad: opensource?  In the repos?
[05:51] <maxolase1squad> edbian: Yes and yes.
[05:51] <losher> shutter1234: that's fine. Feeling stressed?
[05:51] <Biovore> deadlyallance647: python probably or c# are probably the next stepping stones..
[05:51] <shutter1234> no, i'm actually glad it's there
[05:51] <bullgard> crdlb: Thank you for your help. Where can I find a definition for this location "computer"? It is difficult to google for because "computer" has many more meanings.
[05:51] <edbian> maxolase1squad: Thanks!
[05:51] <maxolase1squad> edbian: It is a catchall IDE that supports extensions for other languages.  I am 99% sure the one packaged for Ubuntu supports C out of the box.
[05:51] <shutter1234> so i won't delete it....the original reason clearing it was to give space for brasero to do its temp img deal to burn cd
[05:52] <shutter1234> so essentially i guess the plan is to restore the folders i want and then switch to better cd burning software
[05:52] <Biovore> deadlyallance647: Other stuff you may want to look at is the "bash programming howto"  good to anyone who going to use a unix box.
[05:52] <crdlb> bullgard: what do you mean by definition, exactly?
[05:52] <deadlyallance647> biovore ive just got done with  hello world and a simple calc
[05:52] <losher> shutter1234: go smoke, we'll talk when you get back...
[05:52] <edbian> maxolase1squad: It only lists java but C and java are so close...
[05:52] <shutter1234> losher, thanks, you read my mind
[05:52] <shutter1234> brb
[05:52] <deadlyallance647> biovore iam using both will look that up
[05:53] <maxolase1squad> deadlyallance647: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/R/eclipse-cpp-galileo-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[05:53] <Biovore> deadlyallance647: python and wxwidgets are fairly usefull
[05:53] <maxolase1squad> deadlyallance647: Get it from there.  You just unzip it to your home directory and use it from there.  No fuss.
[05:53] <brijith> hai
[05:55] <maxolase1squad> deadlyallance647: There is a "port" of C# for Unix called mono.  sudo aptitude install monodevelop
[05:55] <maxolase1squad> deadlyallance647: Because .NET is a Microsoft technology you can imagine that its use is highly controversial.
[05:55] <bullgard> crdlb: The author of the program Nautilus had an idea why he created the location "computer". I believe he implemented the 'computer:///' feature and described its usage. Where can I find this description? Is it only in root/src/nautilus -places -sidebar.c starting from line 342?
[05:56] <deadlyallance647> what about the use of the open source port of vs?
[05:56] <maxolase1squad> deadlyallance647: That is monodevelop
[05:57] <deadlyallance647> i was thinking of sharpdevelop
[05:58] <maxolase1squad> Hmmm... I'm not familiar with that one.
[05:58] <crdlb> bullgard: the code is in gvfs, not nautilus
[05:58] <deadlyallance647> oh ok
[05:58] <Gecko_> #tremulous
[05:58] <Gecko_> hello
[05:58] <skimj> Anyone know how to boot the live CD to a command line?
[05:58] <Gecko_> does any1 here play tremoulous?
[05:58] <crdlb> bullgard: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gvfs/tree/daemon/gvfsbackendcomputer.c
[05:59] <bullgard> crdlb: I see. And where can I find a program description or manual of "computer:///'?
[05:59] <Gecko_> #tremulous
[06:00] <cagonto> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[06:02] <shutter1234> back
[06:03] <shutter1234> or should i say back, losher.  get your nick highlight to get your attention
[06:03] <shutter1234> eh
[06:03] <tarelerulz> phix, I am running firefox 3.5.3 and adobe 10 in wine and seem not to be running that much better. It runs at a like 50-65% and don't seem to go up past that unlike last time.  I would like to know what version of wine your running so maybe I could up grade and get it working better
[06:03] <losher> shutter1234: give me a moment, on the phone...
[06:03] <shutter1234> take your time
[06:04] <shutter1234> i'm not going anywhere, either
[06:04] <phix> tarelerulz: erh, what site are you trying to get working with it?
[06:04] <ZachK18> hello all
[06:04] <bullgard> crdlb: I will need a longer time to scrutinize this source code. --  Thank you very much for your enduring help.
[06:06] <ZachK18> so any help needed?
[06:06] <ZachK18> i'm available
[06:06] <Bluey> i finally got ident to work
[06:07] <newmember> how do I add a dekstop to ubuntu 9.04 server?
[06:07] <Bluey> new -- you don't
[06:07] <Bluey> server does NOT have a desktop - just a command line
[06:08] <Biovore> you can install it if you want..  package "ubuntu-desktop"
[06:08] <Biovore> ussualy servers don't have gui's though..
[06:08] <Vtec> has anyone heard of the print screen button crashing ubuntu? everytime i press it im forced to power off via a/c button and reboot
[06:08] <newmember> Bluey: appreciate the idea of no desktop, mine dont I have a few things I would like to work with that require a GUI
[06:08] <Vtec> anyone have an idea whats going on lol?
[06:08] <ZachK18> not me
[06:09] <ZachK18> Vtec, i've not heard of your issue
[06:09] <Bluey> new would be better off installing a version of ubuntu that came with a gui
[06:09] <Bluey> new -- are you running 32 bit or 64?
[06:09] <Vtec> hmm
[06:10] <shutter1234> Vtec, i know on my computer print screen in linux seems (i could be wrong) intense memory wise
[06:10] <newmember> 32bit at the moment on this image, all other images are 64
[06:10] <shutter1234> it's never crashed though
[06:10] <losher> shutter1234: ok, back on it. Where were we?
[06:10] <Bluey> go here:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[06:11] <Bluey> new that's a 32 bit version
[06:11] <shutter1234> losher, going to restore what i want from the trash and then use diff cd burning software that won't need to create a gigantic tmp image file for audio discs i thinks
[06:12] <shutter1234> but unless you have any other suggestions or what not, i do have another question that's data related
[06:12] <shutter1234> but yeah, one thing at a time
[06:12] <losher> shutter1234: ok, but bear in mind you only have about 1G free, which is cutting it fine for any burning program to stage the 800M or so it needs to create a CD image...
[06:12] <phix> Hey, xorg doesn't pick up my video modes correctly if I am using a KVM, the only way around it is to use the VESA driver.  Is there a way to force a driver and tell it to STFU about invalid modes?? (I have specified horiztonal and vert refresh of my monitor)
[06:13] <shutter1234> losher, okay... so there's no way around that then
[06:13] <losher> shutter1234: well, free up some space, or buy more disk :-)
[06:13] <shutter1234> hehe
[06:14] <oblique> anyone how know to get visuals going on amarok?
[06:14] <phix> amarok? what is that?
[06:15] <oblique> uhm the audio player
[06:15] <shutter1234> losher, interesting error when i tried to move 3 music folders from the trash to the desktop
[06:15] <losher> shutter1234: what was the error?
[06:15] <shutter1234> 'there is not enough space on the destination'
[06:15] <shutter1234> 'There is 947.8 MB available, but 1.8 GB is required.'
[06:16] <losher> shutter1234: maybe it's trying to copy instead of move? Wanna try it from the command line?
[06:16] <shutter1234> yeah
[06:16] <losher> shutter1234: ok, where are the source directories?
[06:17] <shutter1234> trash:/// and desktop is /home/jay/desktop
[06:19] <losher> shutter1234: nah, that's just how nautilus names them. From the terminal they're gonna be /home/jay/.local/share/Trash/files/.... Can you see them using 'ls -l' ?
[06:19] <shutter1234> are you asking me to change to that dir and do ls -l?
[06:20] <shutter1234> if so, then yes
[06:20] <losher> shutter1234: you can do that, or just do 'ls -l /home/jay/.local/share/Trash/files/*' without changing directory...
[06:20] <shutter1234> already changed dir
[06:21] <shutter1234> learn something new every day though i suppose, i'll keep that in mind next time when i'm listing
[06:21] <losher> shutter1234: ok, so what are the folder names?
[06:21] <shutter1234> music, music 2, music 3 is what I want moved, there are a few other files but i don't want them
[06:22] <losher> shutter1234: ok, and where do you want to put them? Looks like you have stuff in *both* /home/jay/Music and also in /home/jay/Desktop?
[06:23] <shutter1234> yeah, because my little brother uses windows and because of lack of space (not a big hd) and what not, i always transfer his music on here once he reaches a certain point
[06:23] <chingus> Whats the channel topic?
[06:23] <shutter1234> so i keep his music folders on the desktop
[06:24] <losher> shutter1234: that's fine, I just need to know where you want to move music, music 2, music 3 to.
[06:24] <Jorsher> helloooooooo anyone here familiar with configuring rtorrent
[06:24] <losher> Jorsher: if it's something simple, I may be able to help. What are you trying to do?
[06:24] <Jorsher> eeep i may have just answered my own question :P
[06:25] <shutter1234> i want to move it to /home/jay/desktop
[06:25] <ZachK18> anybody not been helped yet?
[06:25] <Jorsher> it was searching in root directory for the configuration file
[06:25] <shutter1234> or rather, excuse me, /home/jay/Desktop
[06:25] <Jorsher> instead of in the user directory
[06:25] <Jorsher> most likely, because i'm logged in as root :P
[06:25] <losher> Jorsher: :-)
[06:25] <chingus> shutterm sudo mv /host...wherever /home/jay/Desktop/
[06:26] <Jorsher> losher - i am getting this: rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:42: Could not open execute log file.
[06:26] <chingus> Jorsher, reinstall rtorrent
[06:26] <Jorsher> i have rtorrent.rc in the home directory of each user
[06:26] <Jorsher> i may just delete the execute log line option from rtorrent.rc and see how it behaves :P
[06:26] <losher> shutter1234: ok, so do: mv music 'music 2' 'music 3' /mnt/jay/Desktop    <-- note the quotes needed on files that have spaces in the names...
[06:27] <losher> Jorsher: yes, what's on line 42 ?
[06:27] <strings> Help,i am not able to bring down or bring up my eth0.
[06:27] <Jorsher> the execute log option ;)
[06:27] <Jorsher> i removed it and now it says it can't run with xmlrpc or whatever
[06:27] <Jorsher> so i'll recompile and set that option
[06:28] <losher> Jorsher: you're compiling from scratch? Any special reason not to use the prebuilt binary?
[06:28] <Jorsher> losher - the one update manager installs is very outdated
[06:28] <shutter1234> losher, by mnt i assume you mean home
[06:28] <shutter1234> ?
[06:28] <strings> i am getting error that eth0 is not configured.what to do?
[06:29] <losher> shutter1234: yes, sorry, my own directories use a different naming scheme. You may have guessed. I also sometimes type commas when I mean dots :-)
[06:29] <shutter1234> i just wanted to be absolutely certain
[06:29] <n8tuser> strings -> post in pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[06:29] <losher> shutter1234: no problem...
[06:30] <rww> I'm running sshd and ssh on two different Jaunty machines, both with pretty much default options set. If I don't do anything in the ssh client for a few minutes, it drops the connection to the server without telling me. How do I stop that from happening?
[06:30] <losher> Jorsher: as you wish. The last time I tried to compile the rtorrent top of tree, it had compilation errors...
[06:30] <shutter1234> losher, worked like a charm
[06:31] <losher> shutter1234: Excellent. What kind of audio files are they btw. Are they mp3's ?
[06:31] <shutter1234> majority of them. some are .mp4
[06:31] <shutter1234> by some i mean very, very few
[06:32] <n8tuser> rww is there a TCPKeepAlive setting in your sshd_config ?
[06:32] <Jorsher> losher - got it to fully compile after installing a lot of extra packages, and it runs, i just forgot the xmlrpc option
[06:32] <shutter1234> it's weird that i had the space for the tmp image for brasero and it still kept saying i did not though
[06:32] <strings> @n8tuser:posted it.
[06:32] <rww> n8tuser: "TCPKeepAlive yes" in sshd_config
[06:32] <n8tuser> strings where is the link to it?
[06:32] <shutter1234> but i suppose i should put that off as brasero, people do not seem to enjoy it much
[06:32] <strings> http://pastebin.com/m51f1cb49
[06:33] <rww> n8tuser: is in **
[06:33] <strings> @n8tuser: i am using wireless with dhcp.
[06:33] <KB1JWQ> !vietnamese
[06:33] <KB1JWQ> Hmm...
[06:33] <KB1JWQ> There a vietnamese language channel for Ubuntu?
[06:34] <losher> shutter1234: brasero is a piece of you-know-what. I'd tell you to install k3b except that you don't have much disk space to spare. Your best bet is probably to use the command line to burn...
[06:34] <obiwan__> please, isn't there any way to show with less the whole output in the lines of the terminal? I mean, not taking 100 @!#$ lines so if i don't loose the lines before?
[06:34] <KB1JWQ> !vt
[06:34]  * losher wow, a language ubotto doesn't know about!
[06:34] <KB1JWQ> !vn
[06:34] <Reactor> Gyus what does 127 dcc error code mean?
[06:34] <KB1JWQ> :-D
[06:35]  * losher spoke too soon...
[06:35] <shutter1234> losher, I'll google cmd line burning when the time comes
[06:35] <n8tuser> strings -> do something similar to this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[06:35] <dustan> hey whats up everyone i was wondering what would cause games to run very slow on my laptop i have a1.8 ghz  dual core AMD 64 bit processorwith 1gig  of ram and  frets on fire is very slow to the point its unplayable
[06:35] <losher> shutter1234: or come back here, we're a support group after all...
[06:36] <shutter1234> absolutely. but I do try to google first so as not to be too rude
[06:36] <obiwan__> please, isn't there any way to show with 'less' command the whole output in 'the size of a terminal window'? I mean, not taking 100 @!#$ lines so if i don't loose the lines before? just like links internet browser, you open it in terminal, work, close it and it just took 10 lines of your terminal.
[06:36] <shutter1234> but if you're not too busy, I'd like to run a question by you? it's something I've googled months ago and something that lead me to automatically think the issue we've just discussed was an HD corruption problem
[06:37] <losher> rww: nat firewalls sometimes time out idle connections. See also ServerAliveInterval for the client...
[06:37] <strings> @n8tuser:i am trying now
[06:37] <losher> shutter1234: ask away...
[06:37] <Wizards> hey umm is there a way that i can make the ubuntu interfaces smaller? like the task bar and ect it's huge lol
[06:37] <shutter1234> i was into torrenting for a while, torrented for a few months, then one day I noticed the percentages on the download would go backwards
[06:37] <Jorsher> losher - got it to install with xml-rpc :)
[06:37] <dustan> wizards whats your screen res at
[06:37] <Jorsher> now, for rutorrent
[06:38] <losher> Jorsher: cool...
[06:38] <shutter1234> and then go back up, and essentially I could no longer torrent, the files would never complete
[06:38] <rww> losher: ServerAliveInterval looks promising, thanks :)
[06:38] <Wizards> 1024x768
[06:38] <shutter1234> googling it, the answers always seem to be data corruption
[06:38] <obiwan__> hm? i'm supposed to get the message :$
[06:38] <shutter1234> i gave up trying to fix the problem a long time ago but I figured I'd run it by you
[06:38] <kazzy> Wizards: task bar aka 'gnome panel' should have that somewhere in properties. not running gnome at the moment, so I can't check
[06:38] <pren> hi guys, i have 30 computers in a network behind a router. 5 ubuntu and 25 XP. for some reason it takes the Ubuntu computers a long time to open Google pages- google.com, gmail, picasa ect . XP can open them instantly , what could be the reason?
[06:39] <losher> shutter1234: yep, that's pretty much the only reason. I have to say I p2p a fair amount and don't see much corruption routinely. Which torrent client were you using?
[06:39] <shutter1234> and it's not something that has really interfered in my day to day use of the computer, but it's one of those curiosity questions
[06:39] <shutter1234> transmission, the program that came with my ubuntu install
[06:39] <Wizards> wow dustan lol i'm at the smallest already
[06:39] <dustan> yeah sorry wizards i was really hoping it was something simple like you had the res set to low im quite new to linux but thought i might have had a shot
[06:39] <n8tuser> pren see if it has  ipv6 enabled, if it is, disable them
[06:40] <kazzy> pren: does it actually seem to be limited to google?
[06:40] <Wizards> no problem i appreciate the help man
[06:40] <shutter1234> i'd note this was with several different torrent files, so it wasn't limited to just one thing I tried to dl
[06:40] <Wizards> when did you start using linux?
[06:40] <dustan> about 6months ago started with mint then cametoubuntu
[06:40] <dtom2444> can someone help me join a different channel? im lost on xchat
[06:40] <kazzy> n8tuser: ipv6 has caused various issues with me.. cvs compression was borked for instance over ipv6 link
[06:41] <pren> kazzy, yes! i have my home page set to google on all computers, all running firefox. when firefox starts in Xp google shows up , in ubuntu it has to think for like 20 seconds
[06:41] <Reactor> Gyus what does 127 dcc error code mean?
[06:41] <losher> shutter1234: well, it's not a known problem with transmission. You can check the health of your hard drive by looking at the SMART data. Take a look at this http://ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/10/gsmartcontrol-hard-disk-drive-health-inspection-tool.html
[06:41] <Wizards> how is imint?
[06:41] <Reactor> Guys*
[06:41] <dustan> dtom2444 server, list of channels and then click the one you want
[06:41] <pren> n8tuser, i think i disabled ipv6, but i'll have  a look
[06:41] <n8tuser> kazzy -> so you turned them off?
[06:41] <shutter1234> all right
[06:41] <Wizards> im using ubuntu for about a week now learned quite a bit messing up the linux OS like 4 times trying to get some stuff wto work
[06:41] <dustan> wizards very similiar to ubuntu but i did notice some things ran faster
[06:42] <kazzy> Wizards: thanks. just avoid setting the monitor resolution to fix sizes
[06:42] <n8tuser> pren also check to make sure the XP box uses same dns as the ubuntu's
[06:42] <Wizards> alrighty thanks
[06:42] <losher> shutter1234: did you say you were on dialup? Or was that someone else?
[06:42] <Wizards> dustan what things give me an example?
[06:42] <kazzy> n8tuser: well, I ran cvs without -z. now, I have ipv6 disabled, no reason to have it on if it causes issues
[06:43] <shutter1234> yes, dialup
[06:43] <pren> n8tuser, ok , i will check it out. the situation is so bad that i'm using bing.com as the default search engine in ubuntu
[06:43] <dustan> like ive had a lot of problems with games being choppy on ubuntu i never had that with mint
[06:43] <n8tuser> kazzy thanks for sharing.. this little tidbits helps
[06:43] <losher> shutter1234: there are much higher error rates on dialup. That's probably why...
[06:44] <kazzy> transmission? on dial-up?
[06:44] <shutter1234> kazzy, patience
[06:44] <losher> kazzy: that's what he said...
[06:44] <shutter1234> i've never had broadband
[06:45] <losher> shutter1234: just as well. You'll never go back...
[06:45] <bdfoster> hey guys having an issue with upgrading. I can't seem to upgrade from hardy to jaunty. do-release-upgrade shows that there are no releases to upgrade to
[06:45] <shutter1234> losher, I know. I hate leaving friends' houses
[06:45] <kazzy> I know. I was just questioning the use of bittorrent on dial-up. even apt-get updates are painful
[06:45] <shutter1234> broadband isn't really an option out here
[06:46] <losher> shutter1234: that easily explains the high incidence of corruptions though...
[06:46] <kazzy> I've used a sat link, it's worse
[06:46] <kbp> somehow everytime i open ubuntu there is a ! icon on the taskbar. when I double click it says update fail something, I clicked partial upgrade and it closed but the (!) icon is still there. If i double click again -> partial upgrade -> infinit loop. Any suggestion?
[06:46] <shutter1234> losher, all right then. good enough for me. it's not a big deal (torrenting)
[06:47] <pren> kbp, did you try to upgrade ubuntu?
[06:47] <losher> shutter1234: just as well, since there's no cure...
[06:47] <shutter1234> =)
[06:47] <xTheGoat121x> How safe is upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 via Update Manager? Last time I tried that was Feisty to Gutsy and it killed my machine
[06:47] <shutter1234> losher, so I probably don't need to download gsmartcontrol
[06:47] <losher> xTheGoat121x: there's no substitute for a full backup. Upgrades can and do go wrong...
[06:47] <kbp> pren: if you mean auto-update, yes. but if you mean upgrading version: no
[06:47] <shutter1234> no real need to go through all of that?
[06:48] <bdfoster> hey guys having an issue with upgrading. I can't seem to upgrade from hardy to jaunty. do-release-upgrade shows that there are no releases to upgrade to
[06:48] <losher> shutter1234: nope, I wouldn't bother...
[06:48] <xTheGoat121x> losher, yeah, I'm crazy about backing up... my main concern is having to take the downtime reinstalling everything.
[06:48] <shutter1234> all right
[06:48] <harisund> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems <-- Is there a version of this page for Ubuntu 9.04 ? Please :(
[06:49] <n8tuser> bdfoster -> may i suggest doing a fresh install? upgrade from previous experience does not work too well..
[06:49] <bullgard> How can I import all Evolution email addresses from another computer in the same LAN to Thunderbird? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_folders seems to suggest that I have to install an Extension first. Is this true?
[06:49] <Gnea> bdfoster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades
[06:49] <kazzy> harisund: as it hasn't even been looked at with regards to 7.10... I would assume not
[06:49] <shutter1234> losher, you've been wonderful help
[06:49] <harisund> kazzy ugh yeah you are right :(
[06:49] <bdfoster> this is a fresh install of hardy, just didnt want to have to go through the trouble of getting another iso
[06:49] <Gnea> bdfoster: yeah, so read that url please
[06:50] <pren> kbp what happens when you run sudo apt-get upgrade from terminal?
[06:50] <kazzy> harisund: for low mem systems, I'd pretty much suggest Debian. Ubuntu's "ease of use" means nothing if it barely moves
[06:50] <n8tuser> bdfoster -> well if you like to learn a bit more, go with an upgrade.. :P
[06:50] <losher> xTheGoat121x: for a while when I was installing, I had it down to a fine art. About a dozen files from /etc and the old trick of saving your package selections and reinstalling the same package set. It's not too bad. I got so I could do it in about 30 minutes from scratch...
[06:50] <losher> shutter1234: so pleased to help...
[06:50] <bdfoster> i see what you are saying though
[06:51] <harisund> kazzy I am not looking at "ease of use" to be honest. I am just looking at the convenience and community of Ubuntu, though technically I should be able to find that in Debian I guess?
[06:51] <bdfoster> ok, just going to download another iso
[06:51] <shutter1234> I think I'll stick around for a bit and follow the conversations.
[06:51] <kbp> pren: ah, I didnt think about that one. thank you. I will try when I get home
[06:51] <xTheGoat121x> losher, LoL Yeah, I gotcha there. Well, I'll probably just wait for Karmic to release, do a clean install... but I was tempted to have a shiny upgraded Jaunty system, LOL
[06:51] <harisund> kazzy, And to be honest there's nothing I hate more than "eye candy"
[06:51] <pren> n8tuser, i have ipv6 disabled , i'm using openDNS for all computers but still Ubuntu is much slower to access the web, especailly google related services,
[06:51] <kazzy> harisund: well, I just find building up is easier than stripping down. it's a personal decision.
[06:52] <harisund> kazzy, True true, building up is easier. Maybe I should try that
[06:52] <losher> harisund: depends on your skill level. The debian groups are much less forgiving to newbies. The ubuntu group is much more welcoming/forgiving....
[06:52] <qdb> hello
[06:53] <qdb> when new ubuntu releases?
[06:53] <bdfoster> october
[06:53] <harisund> losher,  agreed on that. But also, I have also noticed Ubuntu is more tailored to the "newbie" group and once you move past, you don't get any help from the Ubuntu community and the Debian community is actually easier to get answers from since most of the newbie questions are pretty much filtered out
[06:53] <kazzy> losher: harisund: yes, that's very true.
[06:54] <losher> shutter1234: it's up to you, but I think a logical next step for you after what we did today is to bone up on more command line stuff e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:54] <bdfoster> qdb october is the next release, ubuntu is on a six month release schedule
[06:54] <strings> @n8tuser:thanks. it worked fine
[06:54] <harisund> And honestly I have preferred the "welcome newbies with open attitudes" of this community, hence finding myself at a difficult crossroad haha
[06:54] <n8tuser> strings cool.
[06:55] <n8tuser> pren  umm just google services? what about other web sites?
[06:55] <shutter1234> bookmarked
[06:56] <losher> harisund: I agree with you. So it depends on your skill level. Once you find you've exhausted this channel, I think linux from scratch makes good next stage reading...
[06:56] <shutter1234> losher, is there a simple explanation about the trash contents reappearing the way they did?
[06:56] <pren> n8tuser, it's most pronounced with google, but generally speaking internet is slower on ubuntu. google is definately slow, it takes firefox 20 seconds to google, and only 2 seconds to bing or baidu.com
[06:57] <harisund> losher, i hope i will never 'exhaust' this channel, but LFS or Gentoo might not be my cup of cake. anyway, I dont' think this is the right platform for this discussion anyway :-)
[06:57] <losher> shutter1234: I don't think so. I suspect it's a bug in nautilus....
[06:57] <kazzy> harisund: also, #gentoo and the like are notorious for being unforgiving, as they are generally "support it yourselves" guys
[06:57] <shutter1234> all right
[06:58] <n8tuser> pren same firefox version as in the windows?
[06:58] <milligan_> How do I add applications/protocols to Firefox? I want to allow links like spotify:...:...:...: etc.
[06:59] <pren> n8tuser, i recently updated XP to 3.5, ubuntu is still 3.0.14 , i don't think they offer 3.5 for interepid (running interpid...)
[06:59] <losher> !35
[06:59] <tonii> !ff35
[06:59] <hey_boy> Guys, where can I add hostnames to IP mappings in Ubuntu 9.04?
[07:00] <losher> tonii: thank you
[07:00] <maco> hey_boy: /etc/hosts
[07:00] <hey_boy> is there a command line utility to configure network?
[07:01] <n8tuser> pren you really get a 20 sec diff from an xp?
[07:01] <losher> hey_boy: it's mostly done with a text editor in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <n8tuser> hey_boy -> there are tools like ip and ifconfig
[07:01] <kazzy> speaking of Firefox, I tested Firefox 3.7a1pre (with better multithreading)... Flash and scripts can't freeze the whole browser anymore
[07:01] <ubuntu> w00t
[07:01] <losher> hey_boy: what are trying to do, exactly?
[07:01] <pren> n8tuser, but i have opera and it takes it 20-30 seconds to google. yes in XP its instant, oh and there's a mac there as well, google is instant on mac as well
[07:02] <Uplink> anyone wanna help me with my lm_sensors? im having a bit of a trouble detecting them
[07:02] <hey_boy> I want to set static IP
[07:02] <pren> tonii, is the "!!ff35" for me?
[07:02] <losher> hey_boy: then edit /etc/network/interfaces. Do you want to see mine. I use static addressing...
[07:02] <n8tuser> pren on all your ubuntu clients or specific one pc?
[07:03] <cursive> hi, i'm having an odd problem with kmess, it appears that all my contacts have the same display picture, any ideas on how to fix? :p
[07:03] <pren> n8tuser, i have one smb server , one ltsp server and 3 thin clients
[07:03] <n8tuser> hey_boy ->  -> do something similar to this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[07:04] <n8tuser> pren what i meant is you observed the slowness on all those ubuntu pc's ?
[07:04] <tonii> pren: if you want it to be :P I was just correcting the command losher tried to use
[07:04] <Uplink> anyone wanna help me with my lm_sensors? im having a bit of a trouble detecting them
[07:04] <shutter1234> brb food. (btw cursive, if that's a reference to the band, nice)
[07:04] <losher> Uplink: lm_sensors is horribly hardware dependent. I seem to recall not being able to get it working on one of my mobos at all...
[07:04] <Uplink> losher; so what did u use?
[07:05] <pren> n8tuser, yes !
[07:05] <kazzy> pren: where does it pause, "looking up", "waiting for..." or what?
[07:05] <losher> Uplink: on that mobo, I did without...
[07:05] <Uplink> losher; ahhh really? no other application for sensors?
[07:05] <pren> kazzy, "connecting to www.google.com"
[07:06] <n8tuser> pren  pastebin the contents of your /etc/nsswitch.conf
[07:06] <alemani> hello everyone
[07:06] <pren> n8tuser, ok
[07:06] <losher> Uplink: as I say, horribly hardware dependent. That makes it hard for developers. Try googling your motherboard model + ubuntu + sensors ?
[07:07] <kazzy> pren: n8tuser: IIRC, that's after the name server switch is out of the picture
[07:07] <Uplink> losher; ahh ok... ty... I dont know whats my mobo model
[07:07] <alemani> is there any guide from ubuntu/or_any_other to install openvz under ubuntu 9.04 ?
[07:08] <pren> n8tuser, http://paste.ubuntu.com/272568/
[07:09] <losher> Uplink: sudo dmidecode may tell you. Sometimes, you can maybe google the pc model number. If it's a laptop, it may be totally proprietary...
[07:09] <kazzy> alemani: openvz isn't keeping up with the latest kernels. you'll have to build your own very old kernel, it seems
[07:09] <Uplink> losher; yes its an HP Pavilion dv5000 series
[07:10] <n8tuser> pren it looks same as mine
[07:10] <shutter1234> alemani, don't know if this is any help, but http://blog.jetienne.com/2009/07/installing-openvz-on-ubuntu-904.html
[07:11] <n8tuser> pren and whats the /etc/hosts  look like?
[07:11] <pren> n8tuser, hosts is long......
[07:11] <alemani> kazzy: oh my that's sad
[07:11] <kazzy> is openvz still "alive"? 2.6.18 is the latest kernel I see, and that's not exactly supported anywhere IIRC
[07:11] <alemani> shutter1234: will check that one
[07:11] <losher> Uplink: I only see one posting on that model in the lm_sensors mailing list. You may be out of luck...
[07:11] <n8tuser> pren -> many lines? can you pastebin it?
[07:12] <kazzy> shutter1234: alemani: interesting, I guess there are newer openvz kernels.
[07:12] <pren> n8tuser, sorry, i made a mistake, ubuntu hosts is short,,,,XP is long
[07:12] <qdb> hello
[07:12] <n8tuser> pren but how does it look like?
[07:12] <Uplink> losher; really? :[
[07:12] <losher> alemani: http://wiki.openvz.org/Main_Page
[07:12] <qdb> in which date new ubuntu releases in october?
[07:13] <Uplink> losher; altho when i run sensors i see my CPU but it doesnt display the temp
[07:13] <losher> Uplink: please don't just take my word for it. I may have missed something. Google it yourself...
[07:13] <shutter1234> I have no idea what openvz is and don't really understand kernels. but I do enjoy google
[07:13] <pren> n8tuser, here is ubuntus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/272570/
[07:13] <qdb> bdfoster, thank you
[07:13] <losher> shutter1234: subtlety is sometimes lost on the masses...
[07:14] <bdfoster> qdb the 29th i believe
[07:14] <qdb> bdfoster, thank you
[07:14] <bdfoster> you're welcome
[07:14] <shutter1234> not only do I often march with the masses, I occasionally carry a banner
[07:15] <alemani> does anyone know what does the package linux-image-virtual ? is it for virtual guest machines or provides a kernel with virtualization capabilities?
[07:15] <n8tuser> pren try commenting out those ipv6 items, and perhaps those hard coded google and picasa servers are not available so you may get redirected, so remove them
[07:16] <abhishek_> how to run a asp.net server on jaunty with lamp installed
[07:17] <pren> n8tuser, since i live in china i use them to circumvent the firewall , but they are a recent addition while the problem is from a long time ago, i will get rid of the ipv6 though and see what happens, i think i already disabled it in FF , but i'll try the hosts
[07:17] <moymoy> anyone know how to setup SCIM? .. none of the hotkeys work for the darn thing
[07:17] <shutter1234> brb
[07:18] <anshumani> moymoy: what characters do you want to input?
[07:18] <n8tuser> pren well, you must do what it takes to get around the "Big Brother".. and you know they do filter google stuff in the mainland
[07:18] <pren> n8tuser, need to reboot?
[07:18] <bullgard> How can I import all Evolution email addresses from another computer in the same LAN to Thunderbird? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_folders seems to suggest that I have to install an Extension first. Is this true?
[07:18] <moymoy> anshumani: hiragana, katagana, kanji ... but i had it setup correctly before... i'm doing it the same way now, and it doesn't work
[07:18] <n8tuser> pren nope no need to reboot, you may need to clear the dns cache though
[07:19] <losher> alemani: it's not easy to find out about those. But via google on http://beginlinux.com/desktop_training/ubuntu/1101-ubuntu-kernel I found: "The linux-image-virtual is a kernel to use if you will be doing virtualization on the box, like using KVM or XEN."
[07:19] <pren> n8tuser, how do i clear the dns?
[07:20] <n8tuser> pren  bring the interface down then up.. ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[07:20] <pren> n8tuser, thanks
[07:20] <intan> bad mood
[07:20] <kohlrak1> is there any known issues involving the xserver and a new update?
[07:21] <n8tuser> pren you're welcome
[07:21] <mtozses__> hello
[07:22] <mtozses__> http://pastebin.com/d1fdf7ce4 <--- what does this mean? that the disk is broken?
[07:23] <kohlrak1> not necesarily, mtozses_ but it could be a sign of such
[07:23] <abhishek_> how to run a asp.net server on jaunty with lamp installed
[07:23] <suigeneris> kohlrak1, how can I investigate further?
[07:23] <losher> mtozses__: yes, it might. Next step, look at the SMART data for the disk: http://ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/10/gsmartcontrol-hard-disk-drive-health-inspection-tool.html
[07:24] <kohlrak1> abhishek: not familiar with that server type, but it sounds like you're trying to run windows binaries...
[07:24] <n8tuser> abhishek_ -> run the windows stuff as guest on a vmware ?
[07:24] <shrini1> need help on mic with ubuntu 9.04 in my laptop
[07:25] <kohlrak1> shrini1: wanna clue us in on what your laptop is?
[07:25] <shrini1> kohlrak1: compaq
[07:25] <abhishek_> i hv virtualbox but it doesnt works
[07:25] <pren> n8tuser, you are my hero !
[07:25] <shrini1> kohlrak1: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[07:25] <abhishek_> is vmware free
[07:25] <shrini1> kohlrak1: mic is not working
[07:26] <n8tuser> pren me? what did i do?
[07:26] <kohlrak1> abhishek_: last time i treid to get vmware, they asked me to pay for it XD
[07:26] <shrini1> kohlrak1: need help to configure mic
[07:26] <pren> n8tuser, after i commented out the ipv6 on hosts, google is instant on ubuntu as well
[07:26] <indus> shrini1: hello
[07:26] <kohlrak1> shrini1: first off, is the mic even an option in your sound controls?
[07:26] <intan> huy,,'
[07:26] <indus> shrini1: what application are you using to trest mic
[07:26] <n8tuser> abhishek_ -> its affordable..but they have single user version thats inexpensive
[07:27] <n8tuser> pren oh okay, am glad it worked out
[07:27] <indus> shrini1: under volume preferences, do u see capture ?
[07:27] <losher> !vmware
[07:27] <shrini1> indus: i try with sound recorder
[07:27] <willca> anybody here having wifi issues with jaunty / dell inspiron 15n / using broadcom linux sta drivers?
[07:27] <indus> shrini1: ya thats good
[07:27] <shrini1> kohlrak1: yes. it has the options
[07:27] <indus> shrini1: is mic connected to rear of motherboard?
[07:27] <pren> n8tuser, thanks, im off to google some stuff....
[07:27] <abhishek_> can it be done on linux itself as various webhosts provide asp and php on same server  using linux
[07:27] <kohlrak1> shrini1: is it your input source?
[07:27] <shrini1> indus: mic is in frontside of my laptop
[07:28] <indus> shrini1: ya ok laptop
[07:28] <shrini1> kohlrak1: yes
[07:28] <alemani> !help
[07:28] <indus> shrini1: did u check under audio preferences
[07:28] <n8tuser> pren no sweat.. pass the trick around to the curious out there in the mainland, hopefully it will open up there minds
[07:28] <kohlrak1> shrini1: is the volume turned all the way up and not muted (that little speaker's under the volumeis easy to miss)
[07:28] <n8tuser> their*
[07:28] <shrini1> indus: yes. tried all options. no use
[07:28] <indus> shrini1: try capture 1 instead of capture
[07:28] <shrini1> kohlrak1: yes. there is no mute
[07:28] <shrini1> indus: where?
[07:29] <indus> shrini1: under preferences
[07:29] <kohlrak1> shrini1: actually, where you turn the volume up, there's a speaker on the left, and a mute mic on the right.
[07:29] <indus> shrini1: open volume control by right click on icon
[07:30] <shrini1> in volume preference, there are 5 devices
[07:30] <talin> hello... i installed a counter-strike source server on ubuntu... i thought i had to make a boot-script for that service.. but does it get created automatically?
[07:30] <shrini1> which to choose?
[07:30] <indus> shrini1: which ones
[07:30] <shrini1> alsa, oss,
[07:30] <alemani> losher: thanks
[07:30] <indus> shrini1: no not that one
[07:30] <shrini1> indus: which one?
[07:31] <indus> shrini1: thats devices, check under preferences
[07:31] <kohlrak1> shrini1, try each... Iused to have to use OSS for a while, until my sound card stopped being broken for ALSA.
[07:31] <indus> shrini1: in preferences u can select source of diff things
[07:31] <indus> shrini1: that button is at the bottom
[07:31] <shrini1> in lice CD, mic works. After installation, i apply all updates. then mic stops working
[07:31] <kohlrak1> shrini1:that place where indus is talking about, you might able to test from there too.
[07:32] <indus> shrini1: so mic was working before?
[07:32] <shrini1> indus: yes. in live cd it works
[07:32] <indus> shrini1: can u click on preferences
[07:32] <kohlrak1> shrini1: when did you update?
[07:32] <shrini1> indus: just now only applied the updates
[07:32] <talin> i did "update-rc.d script defaults"... how can i remove that same script from rc.d?
[07:33] <indus> shrini1: there are options like master pcm, capture  capture 1 etc
[07:33] <shrini1> indus: there is no capture1
[07:33] <n8tuser> talin man update-rc.d
[07:33] <indus> shrini1: what other things do u see
[07:33] <willca> anybody here having wifi issues with jaunty / dell inspiron 15n / broadcom 4312 rev 01/ using broadcom linux sta drivers?
[07:33] <kbp> can I use tar to unrar a rar file?
[07:33] <shrini1> indus: master, pcm, front mic, linein, cd, mic
[07:33] <kohlrak1> willca:what kinda issues?
[07:34] <n8tuser> kbp nope
[07:34] <obiwan__> obiwan_ please, isn't there any way to show with 'less' command the whole output in 'the size of a terminal window'? I mean, not taking 100 @!#$ lines so i don't loose the lines before? just like links internet browser, you open it in terminal, work, close it and it just took 10 lines of your terminal.
[07:34] <shrini1> indus: capture
[07:34] <shrini1> indus: thats all
[07:34] <indus> shrini1: ok also in mic slider, check if its muted at bottom, slider might be up but icon might be muted
[07:34] <willca> kohlrak1 | it intermittently drops wifi connection regardless how good your radio signal is
[07:34] <shrini1> indus: is there any problem with the updates?
[07:34] <kohlrak1> shrini1: turn all of that up and test it all, something's bound to work XD
[07:34] <indus> shrini1: i dont think so
[07:34] <indus> shrini1: did u reboot after updates?
[07:34] <shrini1> kohlrak1: ya. i tried all. but...
[07:34] <kbp> n8tuser: ty
[07:34] <willca> kohlrak1 | even tried the broadcom linux sta drivers and of course fwcutter
[07:35] <shrini1> indus: yes. i rebooted
[07:35] <willca> only thing though is that the broadcom linux sta drivers seem to be having less of this
[07:35] <kohlrak1> willca: I have a vostro 1000, some sort of broadcom card, and using jaunty.... And yes, i have problems with that too. Sometimes it's serious enough to require reboot.
[07:35] <kohlrak1> willca: how often does this occure?
[07:36] <indus> shrini1: hmm u need to keep trying other options for mic probably
[07:36] <willca> kohlrak1 not so serious for a reboot but worst case is i have to restart wicd
[07:36] <shrini1> indus: trying. i tried with audacity. that too fails to record
[07:36] <willca> kohlrak1 ... like maybe about 5-8 times in an hour and lasts from 1-2 minutes of drop
[07:36] <kohlrak1> willca: never considered restarting a particular program, i just reboot.... But believe me, it annoys me...
[07:36] <indus> shrini1: probably the system is choosing wrong device for mic
[07:37] <indus> shrini1: plug it out then in again
[07:37] <shrini1> indus: ok. let me try
[07:37] <kohlrak1> willca: odd, mine has many connection drops, but often invisible to the programs because it reconnects quickly enough... And it's never down from 1-2 minutes unless it's down indeffinately and i reboot
[07:37] <willca> kohlrak1.... true...but restarting wicd does the trick for me. damn Broadcom!
[07:37] <shutter1234> back
[07:38] <kohlrak1> willca: it could be the card, even somehow the board. I bet if you look through syslog you'll find messages about an uknown keycode too...
[07:38] <willca> i mean wicd restart only when it takes longer than 2 minutes and when all my ssh sessions and what not craps out
[07:38] <harisund> How do I enable keyboard repeat thingie .. meaning if I keep a key pressed, nothing happens, I want the key to be repeatedly sent
[07:38] <talin> does anyone know how to make (or where to find an example of) a minimal startup script?
[07:38] <kohlrak1> willca: it might even be your router if you havn't rebooted it in a while, but my money's on a crappy lappy.
[07:39] <shutter1234> harisund, System > preferences > keyboard
[07:39] <arturc> ola
[07:39] <kohlrak1> willca: i've had many, many issues with this dell.. and it seems to be the dells that have the most problems with ubuntu. XD
[07:39] <willca> kohlrak1 | that i agree on
[07:39] <shutter1234> harisund, then adjust as desired
[07:40] <willca> kohlrak1 | got my old latitude D600 i am testing slackware13 on it with regular b43 firmware and fwcutter
[07:40] <willca> so far its holding up better than jaunty
[07:40] <harisund> shutter1234, sweet man :) thank yu
[07:40] <arturc> alguien de  mexico
[07:40] <willca> but heck i dont want to use slack as much as jaunty
[07:40] <legend2440> harisund: open system>pref>keyboard>general is there a check in box for key press repeat?
[07:40] <shutter1234> no problem
[07:40] <harisund> legend2440, Got it :) thanks that solves the problem
[07:41] <shutter1234> looks like losher left
[07:41] <kohlrak1> willca:interesting... There might be updates that ubuntu doesn't have yet... I was just looking over a program an hour or so ago that apparently has a particular feature back in 2008, but apparently the ubuntu repos hasn't even caught up with it yet.
[07:41] <indus> kohlrak1: what software is that? you are using hardy probably
[07:42] <willca> kohlrak1 | well some of the stuff i read had something more to do with 2.6.29 kernel has better support for it
[07:42] <kohlrak1> indus:jaunty =p
[07:42] <indus> heh
[07:42] <kohlrak1> willca: ah
[07:42] <kohlrak1> indus: audacious btw
[07:42] <indus> kohlrak1: how audacious
[07:42] <willca> and ya slack13 is on 2.6.29
[07:43] <indus> kohlrak1: audacity ? or is there something called audacious
[07:43] <willca> karmic just cant come soon enough now
[07:43] <kohlrak1> indus: no clue, but i read a post on some message boards that date back to 2008 that it can play a particular file format, but i can't get it to play that format here. =p
[07:43] <kohlrak1> indus: there is a program called audacious
[07:43] <kohlrak1> indus: it's kinda like winamp for linux'
[07:43] <indus> !info audacious
[07:43] <willca> audacity is for editing audio
[07:43] <indus> aah my mistake
[07:44] <willca> no worries
[07:46] <kenmitre> hey what's up
[07:46] <KB1JWQ> !hi
[07:47] <hypyrbole> Hi all. Can someone with an external 250GB USB hard drive let me know what the maximum usable capacity is? NTFS or vfat formatted. Thanks.
[07:47] <sadiq_> is there a way to disable the touchpad while a mouse is pluged into the laptop?
[07:48] <kohlrak1> hypyrbole: this probably isn't the right place to ask that (since it shouldn't be system specific). Just format it and find out. =p
[07:48] <shrini1> hypyrbole: hi, what do you mean by it? you can se entire 250 gb
[07:49] <hypyrbole> thxn shrini. No, when you buy a 250GB HD there is some amount not useable after the drive is formatted.
[07:49] <les_> hypyrbole: about 230gb ish, if i remember from the last time i fired up gparted
[07:49] <indus> hypyrbole: thats true, some of it is wasted i suppose, my 80 gb only shows 74 really
[07:49] <hypyrbole> thnx les & shini1 for your help. I just needed a quick idea. I'm away from my computer right now.
[07:50] <hypyrbole> have to buy a HD on the way home.
[07:50] <hypyrbole> bye & thnx
[07:51] <centaur5> Is there a way to make Ubuntu not output errors to the console while you're trying to type commands?
[07:51] <les_> lol i stayed up hoping for alpha 6. looks like i will have wasted a nights sleep :p
[07:52] <centaur5> les_, usually isn't out for another 12 hours
[07:52] <Uplink> poor les_
[07:52] <Kerstkonijn> centaur5: Redirect the output of standard-error to something else: 2>&1 is to your screen, 2>&- is close (to nothing)
[07:54] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, where would I find that in a config file?  Just to clarify I'm talking about system errors not script errors.
[07:54] <les_> this is why they invented amp :) so new releases usually pop up after noonish EST?
[07:54] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, My system is polluting my vterm with file system errors.
[07:55] <centaur5> les_, usually around noon mountain time
[07:55] <Kerstkonijn> centaur5: Is there a way to set the debuglevel less strickt?
[07:55] <Brando753> Anyone know if this printer works in ubuntu
[07:55] <les_> cool, thanks.
[07:55] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, I'm probably stuck cause I can't exactly restart services everything is too broken.  :)
[07:55] <Brando753> http://www.amazon.com/SiPix-Pocket-Printer-A6-Infrared/dp/B00005LDPI
[07:56] <talsemgeest> Hey all, Im trying data recovery with photorec. I want to recover the data onto my laptop which is running xubuntu. I am running photorec from the ubuntu live cd. What is the easiest way to mount the laptop from across the network?
[07:56] <indus> !hardware | Brando753
[07:57] <Kerstkonijn> centaur5: Ow :/ Maybe start with a fsck. It might help to get rid of those fs errors by fixing it. Good luck!
[07:58] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, I've done fsck -f -v -y about 12 times today.  I'm pretty well screwed.
[07:59] <Jorsher> is http the "user" for the webserver?
[08:00] <talsemgeest> Anyone?
[08:00] <centaur5> Jorsher, I believe that's what www-data is for
[08:00] <anshumani1> talsemgeest: try to mount using SMB
[08:00] <server7> Hello everyone, I'm using the ubuntu server 9.04 with Kernel Linux 2.18.15-server. I start working on "my web server Load balancing (Apache). I inserted the command " sudo sysctl -p" to add the first configuration to my "sysctl.conf" file. I got theis error message "vm.min_free_kbytes = 16384error: "dev.rtc.max-user-freq" is an unknown key"?? I edited  my "sysctl.conf" my dev.rtc.max-user-freq=1024". How do i work a round this??
[08:00] <Kerstkonijn> centaur5: If you have an other disk, you can try to clone the broken one with dd, then swap the disks (remove the disk you are using now) and retry a fsck.
[08:00] <talsemgeest> anshumani1, hmm, samba server with smbfs installed on the live cd?
[08:01] <anshumani1> talsemgeest: you're running photorec on your laptop, and trying to recover a disk. where does this disk reside?
[08:01] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, Do you think that would work with 4 drives in raid 5?  My pos raid card is responsible for this whole disaster! Never buying adaptec again.
[08:02] <Uplink> anyone know where i can get nice conkyrc's?
[08:02] <talsemgeest> anshumani1, Running photorec from another pc on the live cd, trying to recover across the network to the laptop
[08:02] <anshumani1> talsemgeest: can you boot into your laptop?
[08:02] <talsemgeest> anshumani1, Yep, Im tryping this from the laptop
[08:03] <talsemgeest> *typing
[08:03] <anshumani1> talsemgeest: yep install samba, mount the partition/drive that you want to recover
[08:03] <anshumani1> with full access permissions
[08:03] <talsemgeest> K, thanks anshumani1 :)
[08:03] <anshumani1> your welocme
[08:03] <Kerstkonijn> centaur5: Yes, you are right: it works with a raid5 set too. But about the quality of adaptec controlers, I assume you're right ;)
[08:04] <server7> Anyone, Please
[08:05] <camonz> hey, how can i check why my server isn't answering my on port 25
[08:06] <camonz> netstat -nl shows the socket's open
[08:06] <tommy_> hi, anyone here who knows what vga= kernel parameter will give the resolution 1280x800?
[08:06] <camonz> spammers can connect to smtpd, and my ip isnt in hosts.deny
[08:06] <centaur5> Kerstkonijn, well thanks for the advice. If I can't manage to recover my databases I'll have to try that. However, I'm willing to set everything back up again I just need those dumped.
[08:07] <tommy_> sorry guys, seems that i found it. vga=869
[08:09] <randy2009> hi, i have this weird problem, i use ssh to automaticly connect to multiple servers. This is the 3rd time in 2 months that the ssh-keys are gone, just disappeared. In happend in the middle of the night, and i can't find anything in the logs. (only that the connections can't be made). Anybody got an idea what is happening?
[08:09] <bullgard> How can I import all Evolution email addresses from another computer in the same LAN to Thunderbird? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Importing_folders seems to suggest that I have to install an Extension first. Is this true?
[08:10] <us3r51> hi , i have installed fluxbox in xubuntu problem is fonts are too large , i googled for this problem but i fnd the solution is to change font in gtkrc 2.0 file but there is no gtk2.0 file available in user dir , any solution ??? ??? ??? ???
[08:13] <kazon_> hi
[08:13] <kazon_> i'm having major woes with automake
[08:13] <kazon_> i installed two versions i think accidentally
[08:13] <nemesis1911> yoo how do I install a .sh file?
[08:13] <kazon_> the error messages i have
[08:13] <kazon_> but there is about 10-15 lines
[08:14] <anshumani1> nemesis: $ <full_path_to_sh_file>.sh
[08:15] <anshumani1> nemesis: you also might want to make it bootable with chmod, if it is not already
[08:15] <nemesis1911> .. anshumanil:
[08:15] <nemesis1911> how
[08:15] <anshumani1> nemesis: open a terminal
[08:15] <nemesis1911> ca  I just be in the path
[08:16] <randy2009> nobody got an idea why my .ssh directory automaticly is emptyed?
[08:16] <nemesis1911> i'm in the terminal in the path
[08:16] <Guest16123> vga=361 is 1280x800 32 bits =)
[08:16] <anshumani1> if your sh script is in /home/nemesis/
[08:16] <anshumani1> do cd /home/nemesis
[08:16] <anshumani1> and then $ ./<name_of_file>.sh
[08:16] <nemesis1911> ok
[08:17] <nemesis1911> anshumanil.. thx bra
[08:17] <anshumani1> no worries
[08:17] <anshumani1> randy: seems like a hell of a problem
[08:17] <tommy^m> anyway to get a nice framebuffer background in console? like gentoo live cd's?
[08:18] <darkham> can i build a live cd with nvidia propriatary inside=
[08:18] <darkham> ?
[08:18] <randy2009> anshumani1, yeah, can't figure it out why
[08:19] <zsk44> hi
[08:20] <bullgard> What is the name of the file that stores the contents of Evolution 2.26.1 > Contact Editor > Personal Information > (Miscellaneous) > Notes?
[08:23] <tommy^m> bullgard: maybe you can use grep to find the file
[08:23] <tommy^m> if its not encryptet
[08:23] <darkham> how can i build  a livecd with nvidia 96 inside?
[08:23] <Dyllan>  Hi all. I have a script that uses zenith to provide the user with an easy to use interface other than the command line. But now I would like to transform it into a fully functional program for ubuntu/gnome, what devel tools are default/recommended for ubuntu, eg. glade etc?
[08:23] <bullgard> tommy^m: What files should I grep?
[08:24] <tommy^m> bullgard: grep for some text from the notes
[08:24] <tommy^m> grep -R "text from note" /
[08:24] <tommy^m> prolly will take some time
[08:25] <bullgard> tommy^m: Yes, that is a good idea. Thank you.
[08:26] <tommy^m> bullgard: np
[08:27] <sarthor> Hi, i have Matrox dualhead G450 VGA card, where to get its driver for 9.04 ubuntu, Help
[08:28] <indus> sarthor: hi
[08:28] <brijith> hai
[08:29] <Reactor> sarthor: google it
[08:29] <sarthor> indus, Hi, how are you,
[08:29] <sarthor> Reactor, googled a lot, no success.
[08:29] <Reactor> sarthor: :\
[08:29] <Reactor> sarthor: weird
[08:29] <sarthor> Reactor, there is one older driver but that for x version 7
[08:29] <sarthor> Reactor, while mine is 11
[08:29] <Reactor> sarthor: o_O
[08:29] <Reactor> sarthor: old videocard?
[08:30] <sarthor> Reactor, yea , its old one
[08:30] <Reactor> sarthor: tried to install 7 ver drv.?
[08:30] <Richard_Martin> are there any channels that have to do with music?
[08:30] <indus> salaam alekom
[08:30] <sarthor> Reactor, yes, it says that scrip is older, for the newer x version
[08:30] <indus> sarthor: did u solve your boot problems
[08:31] <sarthor> Walykum as Salam
[08:31] <Reactor> sarthor: try to look something in repos
[08:31] <sarthor> indus, No, Reinstalled, i failed!!
[08:31] <asg8516> hello
[08:31] <Reactor> hi man
[08:31] <asg8516> Pls help...Ubuntu installer crashes when booting from cd.
[08:32] <asg8516> xserver not loading
[08:32] <Reactor> asg8516: probably disk is damaged
[08:32] <Reactor> asg8516: try to burn another
[08:33] <petra> I have some difficulty finding sensible X settings for an ATI X1300 card (in notebook) using the free driver: A docking station connected DVI monitor (TFT 20") tends to flicker enormously. Any ideas?
[08:33] <asg8516> is my ram the culprit?
[08:34] <indus> petra: may be this is useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:35] <blerk> i need to have a working bcm43xx driver on the live cd/usb, how would one go on about getting that work apart from putting the packages on the usb stick?
[08:36] <hacktop_> Using KDE, How do I get the sound running? when I log in with the root account sound works but with the non-root user it does not
[08:37] <petra> Indus: Thanks a lot. I don't seem to know this page yet. I'll give 9.04 a new try with these suggestions being followed!
[08:38] <magicben> hi there, i have a question... does anyone know how ubuntu know where it was installed ?
[08:38] <indus> petra: there is a lot of good community documentation available where users put their experiences, if u solve your problem, u can add a note at the bottom yourself
[08:39] <indus> petra: good luck !
[08:42] <petra> indus: Yes, I'd certainly like to add a note as soon as my nb will work with the free driver.
[08:43] <petra> btw: you know why those things are called drivers? Because they can drive you mad!  :-)
[08:43] <WeazelON> hey guys, anyone knows why do i get in Jaunty a GPG error from the chromium daily repository ? " http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5 Launchpad PPA for chromium-daily"
[08:46] <DJones> WeazelON: Has that just happened today? It could be they've released a  new signature and you may need to update on your system, or maybe its just corrupt and will be fixed later in the day
[08:47] <WeazelON> yea i'm hoping they'll be fixing it later on, it happened before but was fixed automaticly, just wondering if i'm the only one who is recieving this error right now
[08:48] <DJones> WeazelON: I'm not on my home machine so I can't check that, it was ok for me about 12 hours ago when I updated
[08:49] <WeazelON> yea same here
[08:49] <htk_> i have a question same as the http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/a-keyboard-shortcut-to-do-the-same-thing-as-the-middle-mouse-button-paste-649868/
[08:50] <magicben> let my try to explain my problem, i had a wubi installation and violently moved the root from the disk image to a fresh real partition with rsync, modified /etc/fstab & grub menu.lst in consequence. but anytime there's an kernel pkgs update it put back the wubi root.disk image in grub menu.lst and i have to modify it again... any sugestion ?
[08:52] <boarderpatrol> hello
[08:54] <boarderpatrol> anyone know how to change the touch pad settings in moon 3.0?
[08:55] <zruty> why do some USB drives have no trouble with live installs and others totally refuse? And what can I do about that?
[08:56] <AlexInBlack> could someone help me with my bootup problem? I get a message about initramfs giving up on waiting for root device.
[08:56] <AlexInBlack> I also get the message: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/f8acb85f-d1d3-4e8a-8cf3-80de0db403e0 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[08:56] <AlexInBlack> I then get dropped into BusyBox/initramfs
[09:01] <error404notfound> i try to execute a .java file from commandline and it cant find postgres driver, i cant find to what $CLASSPATH adn $JAVA_HOME should set.
[09:02] <darkham> how can i mod an ubuntu livecd fo running at startup nvidia drivers?
[09:02] <DJones> !remaster | darkham This may help you in modifying the live cd, I've never done it myself so can't help with that, but hopefully the documents will start you on your way
[09:06] <talin> hello. is there anyone here who could help me make a startup script for a service on ubuntu? it's just a single command that i would like to run every time the server boots
[09:06] <damar> eska
[09:06] <damar> ;hk
[09:07] <|eXapid|> Unrelated questions , whats the bsd daemons name again ?? o.o
[09:08] <strange> hey guys how do i search if a dir contains filenames or dirnames that include the lowercase words "at the for by in" lowercase results only
[09:09] <KB1JWQ> strange: find and grep
[09:09] <KB1JWQ> grep -r also works
[09:09] <strange> yeah but how do i do multiple inputs?
[09:10] <strange> multiple words
[09:10] <strange> but only one has to hit not all
[09:10] <GutZuWiSSeN> hi, im looking for a free easy-to-install/configure (web/db) Server Monitoring tool, any ideas?
[09:10] <WeazelON> you can always grep <text> |  grep <text>
[09:11] <Kerstkonijn> GutZuWiSSeN: Bigbrother, bigsister
[09:11] <error404notfound> ayone?
[09:12] <Reactor> ?
[09:12] <yo> wtf?
[09:12] <Reactor> !ask
[09:13] <DougM> I was wondering if it was possible to view people connect to my network through Ubuntu?
[09:13] <yo> fuck you
[09:13] <DJones> !language | yo
[09:13] <AlexInBlack> Boot-up fails and I get a message about initramfs giving up on waiting for root device. I also get the message: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/f8acb85f-d1d3-4e8a-8cf3-80de0db403e0 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!" I then get dropped into BusyBox/initramfs
[09:15] <eFfeM> hi, i was wondering if there are entries in /dev/ for the network interfaces (can't find them)
[09:16] <talin> when i put a script in /etc/init.d, do i need to put sudo in front of commands in the script?
[09:16] <eFfeM> (can't set the essid of my new wifi card, was wondering if it could be related to /dev)
[09:16] <eFfeM> talin no
[09:16] <hatake_kakashi> doubt it
[09:17] <eFfeM> but ofc the proof of the pudding is in the eating
[09:17] <hatake_kakashi> what's the mode of the device?
[09:19] <eFfeM> hatake_kakashi: my wifi device? no idea, can't find it in /dev
[09:19] <eFfeM> iwlist mlan0 scan works
[09:19] <barata> hallo guys, what's the latest ubuntu flavor for EEE?
[09:20] <BlackFate> barata, eeebuntu
[09:20] <DougM> how can i view a list of IP's connect to my network?  is it possible through terminal?
[09:20] <barata> yes .. but what kernel , version .. black
[09:20] <barata> yes .. but what kernel , version .. BlackFate
[09:21] <olegk> ą▓čüąĄą╝ ąĘą┤čĆą░ą▓čüčéą▓čāą╣čéąĄ!
[09:21] <eFfeM> iwconfig mlan0 essid mynetwork does not work
[09:21] <hatake_kakashi> eFfeM, I doubt it will be in /dev personally
[09:21] <BlackFate> barata, i think 2.6.28 not sure
[09:22] <barata> ok .. thanks BlackFate
[09:22] <Reactor> !ask | olegk
[09:23] <norkakn> Does anyone know what could cause the console (ctrl-alt-f[1-6]) to flicker instead of having text?  It is super annoying
[09:24] <Kerstkonijn> norkakn: Is it a Dell? Switch back to X, and back again to the console. Then it works most of the time.
[09:24] <olegk> ą║čéąŠ ą┐čĆąŠą▒ąŠą▓ą░ą╗ ą║ąŠą╝ą┐ąĖą╗ąĖčéčī čÅą┤čĆąŠ 2.6.31?
[09:25] <norkakn> No, Acer 3810T, 2.6.30, Intel 4800HD
[09:25] <DJones> !ru | olegk
[09:27] <Celtiore> hi from france
[09:28] <Reactor> !fr | Celtiore
[09:28] <Celtiore> can you help me with ubuntu and HP scanner 7400C series with ADF ( automatic document feeder ) please
[09:29] <cheater> hi guys!
[09:29] <cheater> i was wondering - is there a way to make strace have colored output?
[09:29] <error404notfound>  i try to execute a .java file from commandline and it cant find postgres driver, i cant find to what $CLASSPATH adn $JAVA_HOME should set
[09:31] <error404notfound> anyone? :(
[09:31] <error404notfound> i try to execute a .java file from commandline and it cant find postgres driver, i cant find to what $CLASSPATH adn $JAVA_HOME should set
[09:38] <scyx> so what do you people think, should i do a clean install of karmic once it's out or just upgrade my jaunty install?
[09:41] <WeazelON> scyx: i always do a fresh clean, much more stable in many ways
[09:41] <CaveyCoUk> Morning all.
[09:43] <scyx> WeazelON: yep, thought about that as well. but since that will be my first distro jump, i'm not sure how long a clean install takes and what/how i should back up.. don't need anything apart the home folder i guess?
[09:43] <WeazelON> well what is it that you need to backup ?   apps ? pictures? docs ?
[09:43] <CaveyCoUk> Am using Hardy in an Andlinux VM, mounting a Vista share through fstab.  After a number of days working fine, it eventually breaks and will not remount because "mount error 12 = Cannot allocate memory" etc... (mounts on Server 2008 are unaffected). I realise this is probably a vista issue, but if anyone has experience and can point me in the direction to fix it, it would be greatly appreciated.
[09:44] <scyx> WeazelON: mostly apps and docs.. docs is not so much a problem but i fear having to reconfigure every app after a clean install :p
[09:45] <WeazelON> CaveyCoUk:  sounds like u ran out of memory... remember how microsoft works, as long as u keep it none restarted, ur cache space runs out slowly
[09:45] <CaveyCoUk> Doesn't look like it is out of memory
[09:45] <mahershalal> A small question, couldn't find an answer on the fora: from Synaptic I can either install Firefox 3.2 or Firefox 3.5.4b1, but I would like to have the latest stable, being 3.5.3. How can I solve this? thanks.
[09:46] <WeazelON> scyx: well, tbh if you are already going for a new distro, its better to reinstall the apps, since alot of'em are not so stable when not downloaded for the specific distro
[09:46] <WeazelON> then again it depends which apps
[09:48] <scyx> i've always wondered about this.. why is it that new releases of apps mostly go into karmic instead of being updated in jaunty too?
[09:48] <scyx> and can i generate a list of installed apps somewhere? i guess that would help with reinstalling them..
[09:50] <mahershalal> A small question, couldn't find an answer on the fora: from Synaptic I can either install Firefox 3.2 or Firefox 3.5.4b1, but I would like to have the latest stable, being 3.5.3. How can I solve this? thanks.
[09:50] <WeazelON> scyx: if you open synaptic, you can generate a script to have all the downloads redownloaded (not with the right version) and you can save all the markings which means the packages that are already installed
[09:50] <chingus> Hey guys quick question will ubuntu have good graphics with : Asus 8400GS HTP/256M
[09:50] <chingus> When I say good I mean can I run Beryl on it?
[09:51] <WeazelON> chingus: same card i have here, graphix are awesome...
[09:51] <chingus> Sweer WeazelON
[09:51] <chingus> thanks
[09:51] <WeazelON> oh wait, i'm not sure i got 256M
[09:51] <WeazelON> sec let me check
[09:51] <MindSpark> hi, how do I change an icon in alacarte ?
[09:51] <monostone> im sort of stuck with something: I've set up a cronjob to execute a python script as root that exports a clean copy from a subversion repository and rsyncs it to corresponding locations on my server box. If i execute the script via commandline as root it works, but not via the cronjob. Any ideas on how to proceed?
[09:52] <CaveyCoUk> WeazelON - That said, I think you might be right.  Shall carry on looking from here, thanks for the pointer
[09:52] <spvensko> i am trying to install the twin console window manager in ubuntu 9.04, i'm attempting to compile it from the source but it complains about not having libtutf, i looked in the ubuntu repos and could not find a libtutf, does anyone know if its under a different name in the repos?
[09:53] <Trijntje> how can I see what processes read from /dev/random?
[09:53] <WeazelON> CaveyCoUk: anytime, trying searching around Sun VirtualBOx, i'm it seems to handle Microsoft memory problems pretty nicely
[09:53] <chingus> WeazelON any luck? Do you reckon the card's good?
[09:53] <Guest55003> muy buenos dias
[09:54] <Guest55003> hay alguien que hable espa├▒ol?
[09:54] <huiza> yo
[09:54] <rww> !es | Guest55003
[09:54] <CaveyCoUk> The fixes I had found so far involved IRPStackSize, but this led to looking in my windows error log where it says it can't allocate from a non paged pool
[09:54] <dayo> is there anyway to run `sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade` unattended? like for `sudo apt-get install -y` ?
[09:54] <Guest55003> hola huiza
[09:54] <chingus> WeazelON?
[09:55] <scyx> WeazelON: when i click save markings in synaptic, it just creates an empty file.. =/
[09:55] <mahershalal> Excuse me, but where would be the right place to ask questions concerning third-party applications in Ubuntu?
[09:55] <WeazelON> chingus: i'm pretty confused to how i check how much memory i have on my geforce
[09:55] <chingus> lspci in terminal I think...
[09:56] <chingus> WeazelON try "lspci |grep VGA" in terminal...
[09:56] <WeazelON> thats what i did
[09:56] <WeazelON> it doesn't say the memory
[09:56] <WeazelON> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS (rev a1)
[09:57] <chingus> Yea its the same one I think
[09:57] <WeazelON> no idea how much memory it has
[09:57] <WeazelON> thats wierd
[09:57] <WeazelON> why should it be so complicated to find out ^_^
[09:57] <chingus> Yea...
[09:57] <mahershalal> or how can I try not to be ignored?
[09:58] <WeazelON> mahershalal: mate, just ask your question, don't ask if u can ask.
[09:58] <DJones> mahershalal: You can try asking here, if anyone can help they will, or somebody may be able to point you to the right channel
[09:58] <mahershalal> WeazelON: thanks! My question is: from Synaptic I can either install Firefox 3.2 or Firefox 3.5.4b1, but I would like to have the latest stable, being 3.5.3. How can I solve this? thanks.
[09:59] <S_A> Hi! I am facing a stange DNS problem. I can ping any IP address but not dns names. e.g. can't access www.google.com . Error is unknown host or connection timed out
[09:59] <S_A> any suggestions ?
[09:59] <rww> mahershalal: remove whichever firefox PPA you added, then refresh the package list and install firefox-3.5
[09:59] <chingus> Marshalal download it from mozilla.com
[09:59] <zaggynl> try a different DNS server
[09:59] <zaggynl> S_A: ^
[10:00] <mahershalal> rww: but it doesn't seem to be in the package-list
[10:00] <S_A> zaggnyl: tried many but no use
[10:00] <rww> oh, wait, jaunty's still on 3.5.2. never mind.
[10:01] <mahershalal> rww: ah, so mozilla.com would be a better choice?
[10:01] <bastl> hello. i need python > 2.7 in ubuntu 9.04. Can get that somewhere easily ??
[10:01] <rww> mahershalal: no, the better choice is to wait for firefox 3.5.3 to hit the Ubuntu repositories
[10:02] <rww> mahershalal: if there are security updates, it shouldn't be too long
[10:02] <mahershalal> rww: hm. ok thanks.
[10:02] <Trijntje> Hi all, is there a way to see what processes read from /dev/random?
[10:03] <error404notfound> i am trying to run my java code from commandline and i keep getting No suitable driver found for jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/
[10:03] <zaggynl> S_A: can you ping the DNS server's IP address?
[10:03] <S_A> zaggnyl: yes
[10:04] <zaggynl> weird
[10:04] <S_A> zaggnyl: as far as i understand problem is with my system in DNS resolving
[10:04] <norkakn> S_A: does dig work?
[10:05] <error404notfound> ayone/
[10:05] <xxx_> xxx
[10:05] <S_A> norkakn: should i try "dig www.google.com"
[10:06] <S_A> norkakn: It gave conection times out; no server could be reached
[10:06] <norkakn> S_A: now try dig @ip.of.your.dns www.google.com
[10:06] <UBestB> how do I run a command at boot?
[10:08] <UBestB> or... how can I create a folder shared between local users, the problem is whichever user creates the files owns them and can't be modified by the other users
[10:08] <CaveyCoUk> Reboot, windows fun!
[10:08] <norkakn> UBestB: put them in a group and give the group write permissions
[10:08] <norkakn> S_A: Did it work when specifying the DNS server?
[10:08] <CaveyCoUk> (It broke, but WeazelON's pointer has worked nicely, thanks again!)
[10:08] <S_A> norkakn: It gave conection times out; no server could be reached
[10:09] <UBestB> but, when a user creates the file, they are created in their group, not the shared group that I want?
[10:09] <UBestB> say I have user1 and user2 and group shared... if user1 creates the file, the group will be user1 as well, not shared, even if both user1 and user2 also are part of shared
[10:09] <strange> how do i give a user sudo rights?
[10:10] <norkakn> S_A: try dig @150.253.10.110 www.google.com
[10:10] <norkakn> if that works, then add `nameserver 150.253.10.110` to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:10] <GutZuWiSSeN> Im looking for a easy2install/configure (web/db) server monitoring tool, any ideas? (except big brother)
[10:11] <S_A> norkakn: This time it gave o/p.
[10:11] <quizme> norkakn: are you teaching the google guys how to configure their dns ?
[10:11] <norkakn> UBestBL look into ACLs
[10:11] <strange> !sudo
[10:11] <S_A> norkakn: 1 server found. Got answer
[10:12] <norkakn> quizme: google is fine, S_A's DNS is just down
[10:12] <norkakn> S_A: cool, the ip I gave you is for a DNS server that should work for you
[10:12] <UBestB> I think ACL has it's drawbacks too but I'll try it again, maybe I just did it wrong
[10:12] <quizme> norkakn: can you help me with my DNS ?
[10:12] <kholzer> quizme: whats your issue?
[10:13] <quizme> norkakn: my 2ndary dns is not config'ed properly: thirdreplicator.com
[10:13] <strange> how do i give a user rights to sudo with a terminal command?
[10:13] <UBestB> S_A just use opendns.com's DNS, you don't need to specifically use your own ISP one
[10:13] <tigriukas> need help
[10:13] <tigriukas> plz
[10:13] <kholzer> tigriukas: what with?
[10:13] <quizme> kholzer: my 2ndary dns is not config'ed properly: thirdreplicator.com
[10:13] <guru> is there any 1 like to chat
[10:14] <S_A> norkakn: the problem is that: I am not able to access any website. be it google.com or sourceforge or anything
[10:14] <tigriukas> my desktop changed
[10:14] <kholzer> quizme: what do you mean not configured properly?  Are you hosting it?
[10:14] <tigriukas> after shutdown
[10:14] <tigriukas> resolution changed
[10:14] <kholzer> tigriukas: bigger lines please.
[10:14] <tigriukas> ubuntu cant find monitor
[10:14] <quizme> kholzer: yeah i'm hosting it.  i just don't know how to write zone files properly i think.
[10:14] <norkakn> S_A: did you add the ip to /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:14] <arquebus> guru- go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <guru> any INDIAns HERE
[10:14] <kholzer> quizme: you using bind?
[10:14] <bastl> i need vim with python >= 2.7. can anyone help to get that?
[10:14] <DJones> guru: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not for general chat
[10:14] <quizme> kholzer: yeah bind9
[10:14] <guru> Hi
[10:15] <UBestB> python3.0 exists
[10:15] <guru> Is there any indians HERE
[10:15] <S_A> norkakn: you mean the IP you gave me or my local DNS server
[10:15] <tigriukas> after reboot ubuntu cant find monitor, it says unknow, worked fine before
[10:15] <kholzer> quizme: I just use everydns for personal stuff; I'm no bind wizard.  I've used djbdns; but I might be able to help you figure it out.
[10:15] <quizme> kholzer: http://pastie.org/620063
[10:15] <S_A> my local DNS server is properly listed in resolv.conf
[10:15] <norkakn> S_A: the one I gave you
[10:16] <friendishan> hi
[10:16] <kholzer> quizme: but really, everydns is nice and it works well; I'll check it out anyhow :)
[10:16] <norkakn> quizme: I think whois is saying that godaddy has the name servers for that, are you sure that you have to run bind?
[10:16] <kholzer> tigriukas: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:17] <tigriukas> kholzer private plz
[10:17] <quizme> norkakn: well, i'm just doing what i usually do.  set my dns servers at godaddy.
[10:17] <UBestB> how do I run a command at boot?
[10:18] <norkakn> quizme: yeah, they should have an interface for it, you probably don't need to run bind at all
[10:18] <friendishan> how do i reconfigure firefox?
[10:18] <norkakn> UBestB: create a script in /etc/init.d and make sure that its executable flag is set
[10:18] <kholzer> friendishan: to do what?
[10:18] <UBestB> does it matter what it's named?
[10:18] <quizme> norkakn: so, don't run bind?  configure them at godaddy ?
[10:18] <Jyxt> friendishan: thats a pretty open ended question
[10:19] <kholzer> quizme: Just use everydns if you don't want to host it.  Everydns is awesome free dns hosting.
[10:19] <S_A> norkakn: I added the IP you gave me in resolv.conf against nameserver = 150.253.10.110
[10:19] <friendishan> kholer: to again start my history to be recorded it has stopped
[10:19] <norkakn> UBestB: make it alphabetically last
[10:19] <S_A> norkakn: but still no use
[10:19] <friendishan> jyxt: huh i guess i'm a noob
[10:19] <norkakn> quizme: yup
[10:19] <norkakn> S_A: does dig work from the console?
[10:19] <S_A> yes
[10:20] <norkakn> S_A: without the @, just dig www.google.com ?
[10:20] <kholzer> friendishan: Go edit -> preferences.  Then under the privacy tab, adjust the number of days to keep history back until.
[10:20] <samo>  /me loves ubuntu
[10:21] <norkakn> S_A: if it is working from the console, then try restarting FF
[10:21] <S_A> norkakn: it gave me same o/p which i got when i tried with the IP address you gave me
[10:21]  * kholzer loves GoboLinux
[10:21] <kholzer> ;[
[10:21] <friendishan> kholer: ok but my problem is different i have kept it to 90 days but it does not record any history someone yesterday told me a terminal command to reconfigure it. but i seem to have diconnected that time
[10:22] <norkakn> S_A: so, ping www.google.com should also work, so your system DNS should be working (unless I am confused), so you should be about all set, some apps might just be confused
[10:23] <S_A> norkakn: i was just trying that only. ping is not working. it gave me nknown host this time
[10:25] <S_A> norkakn: I have a DNS server address. which is working for my windows machine but the same address when i put in resolv.conf doesn't work. I mean ping ip-address works but not ping www.xyz.com
[10:25] <kholzer> friendishan: Try this: rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql*
[10:25] <kholzer> friendishan: and restart firefox.
[10:25] <kholzer> friendishan: preferably, close firefox first.
[10:25] <friendishan> what does that do? kholer:
[10:25] <norkakn> S_A: and the address that works from windows does not work with dig @address ?
[10:25] <kholzer> friendishan: nukes the current history database.
[10:25] <friendishan> Kholer: ok i will try it
[10:26] <kholzer> friendishan: and I'm kholzer; I don't get notifications if you misspell :)
[10:26] <friendishan> Kholzer: ok
[10:26] <kholzer> :)
[10:26] <tigriukas> kholzer what to do now?
[10:26] <kholzer> Did it say anythign?
[10:26] <S_A> norkakn: it works
[10:26] <kholzer> *anything?
[10:26] <friendishan> Kholzer: thanks^^ bye
[10:27] <kholzer> tigriukas: oh sorry tigriukas
[10:27] <norkakn> okay, cool, that makes way more sense
[10:27] <kholzer> tigriukas: did it work?
[10:27] <norkakn> S_A: okay, try going into the network manager and changing from Automatic (DHCP) to Automatic (DHCP) addresses only, and put in the DNS Servers
[10:28] <pbn> Hi, how can I (re)configure the locales on Ubuntu ? On Debian GNU/Linux "dpkg-reconfigure locales" allows me to do that, but the same command on Ubuntu doesn't bring the dialog... any idea ?
[10:29] <S_A> norkakn: done but one thing I had changed NM to unmanaged
[10:29] <S_A> norkakn: shall i make it managed
[10:29] <S_A> ??
[10:31] <norkakn> S_A: change one thing at a time
[10:31] <S_A> norkakn: I did it earlier not now. I was asking for your opinion as you suggested to use NM
[10:31] <blackjak> hello guys
[10:32] <blackjak> how can i fix broken package
[10:32] <blackjak> because of one I can not install enything
[10:32] <blackjak> *anything
[10:32] <norkakn> S_A: I use it when it works, and ditch it when it doesn't
[10:32] <S_A> norkakn: btw I changed to DHCP address only and provided DNS server address in NM as well
[10:33] <S_A> norkakn: :)
[10:33] <cheater> hey guys, anyone know how to colorize the output of strace ?
[10:33] <norkakn> S_A: does it now see the DNS server properly?
[10:33] <kholzer> blackjak: what package?
[10:33] <blackjak> adobe flashplugin
[10:33] <kholzer> blackjak: is it blocking stuff?
[10:33] <kholzer> blackjak: what do you mean you can't install anything?
[10:34] <blackjak> I wann install kismet
[10:34] <blackjak> how to remove  that package?
[10:34] <blackjak> tried apt-get remove
[10:34] <blackjak> does not work
[10:35] <blackjak> it tell me I have to reinstall it
[10:35] <blackjak> how do i do that
[10:35] <S_A> norkakn: still not working
[10:36] <blackjak> i guess reinstall , ah?
[10:36] <blackjak> the whole ubuntu
[10:36] <kholzer> no..
[10:37] <BlackFate> blackjak, what error do you get?
[10:37] <norkakn> S_A: and /etc/resolv.conf is correct?
[10:37] <kholzer> blackjak: dump the error to http://pastebin.com/
[10:37] <blackjak> wait I'll paste in a pastebin
[10:37] <S_A> yes
[10:37] <norkakn> S_A: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:38] <norkakn> S_A: shouldn't be needed, but.. I dunno at this point
[10:39] <blackjak> http://pastebay.com/54987
[10:40] <blackjak> kholzer here it it http://pastebay.com/54987
[10:40] <kholzer> BlackFate: try aptitude reinstall adobe-flashpluging
[10:40] <kholzer> BlackFate: Sorry :(
[10:41] <kholzer> blackjak: try aptitude reinstall adobe-flashplugin
[10:41] <BlackFate> kholzer, lol, np :D
[10:41] <BlackFate> kholzer, if this doesnt work he should sudo dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin
[10:41] <kholzer> BlackFate: I've got my shell to come up with a menu when I tab complete....why can't my IRC client?!
[10:41] <blackjak> ok
[10:41] <kholzer> blackjak: did it work?
[10:42] <BlackFate> kholzer, coz shells is pro, irc is outdated :P
[10:42] <kholzer> honestly...
[10:43] <blackjak> does not work http://pastebay.com/54988
[10:43] <BlackFate> blackjak, sudo dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin
[10:43] <rapha> bye all!
[10:44]  * kholzer needs to read, then sleep.
[10:44] <Ian_Corne> anyone got a handy link for using evolution's calendar on my desktop as a server to sync with my laptop?
[10:45] <kholzer> Ian_Corne: I can find you one, but I haven't done it...
[10:45] <blackjak> same thing
[10:45] <Ian_Corne> ok i'll keep looking then :)
[10:45] <kholzer> blackjak: did you try the reinstall?
[10:45] <blackjak> yes
[10:45] <kholzer> and the purge?
[10:45] <blackjak> yes
[10:46] <blackjak> still telling me that it it in very inconsistent state
[10:46] <malathi> how to open .rws file?
[10:46] <blackjak> dpkg: error processing adobe-flashplugin (--purge):
[10:46] <kholzer> blackjak: I'm better with emerge :/
[10:46] <_chetan_> blackjack: have you tried to fix broken packages from synaptic?
[10:47] <blackjak> what is emerge?
[10:47] <kholzer> blackjak: portage, in gentoo.
[10:47] <blackjak> I do not know how to fix them in synaptics
[10:47] <kholzer> blackjak: try what _chetan_ says.
[10:47] <BlackFate> kholzer, offtopic :-/
[10:47] <Jyxt> blackjak: emerge is a command in gentoo that sort of does what apt-get does
[10:47] <BlackFate> :P
[10:47] <Richard_Martin> who here thinks Kanye West is a jackass?
[10:47] <kholzer> BlackFate: true :)
[10:47] <DJones> !ot | Richard_Martin
[10:47] <kholzer> Richard_Martin: I do, but go to #ubuntu-offtopic....bot beat me to it.
[10:49] <hawaiigintonic> hello
[10:49] <blackjak> synaptics does not find anybroken packages
[10:50] <kholzer> blackjak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How%20to%20fix%20broken%20packages
[10:50] <kholzer> blackjak: doesn't do anything?
[10:51] <kholzer> blackjak: Also, try the stuff on the troubleshooting section of that page.
[10:51] <_chetan_> blackjack: wat about "sudo apt-get install -f" ?
[10:51] <kholzer> _chetan_: thats on the troubleshooting page :)
[10:51] <blackjak> gives me the same error
[10:51] <kholzer> _chetan_: rather, section of the page
[10:52] <_chetan_> kholzer: ya sorry i read it later
[10:52] <blackjak> I'm trying the info from the link kholzer gave me
[10:53] <doktoreas> hello folks..I need a suggestion for a video editng tool that allow me just to add a still image to certain parts of the video..
[10:53] <doktoreas> any idea?
[10:55] <blackjak> this thing synaptics is very complicated thing.I'm not able to understand it and get it do useful job for me
[10:55] <blackjak> the link does not help me
[10:55] <xman> hi all, can anyone tell me how can i add windows XP to grub? I had vista on the system and i removed that and have installed XP then installed ubuntu 9.04 but in gurb its showing option of windows vista loader but not XP. And when i select that vista loader nothing is happening. helpppppppp plzz...............
[10:55] <indus> blackjak: its actually very simple
[10:55] <indus> blackjak: what is the problem u are facing?
[10:55] <blackjak> i have a broken package
[10:55] <blackjak> and synaptics does not show it
[10:56] <indus> blackjak: at the menu on top go to edit > fix broken packages
[10:56] <blackjak> yes
[10:56] <UBestB> blackjak is there a custom filter in your synaptic?
[10:56] <blackjak> nothing
[10:56] <indus> blackjak: ya it fixes butwont give any message
[10:57] <kholzer> doktoreas: maybe ask in #video?
[10:57] <blackjak> I do not know what this custom filter is
[10:57] <xman> hi all, can anyone tell me how can i add windows XP to grub? I had vista on the system and i removed that and have installed XP then installed ubuntu 9.04 but in gurb its showing option of windows vista loader but not XP. And when i select that vista loader nothing is happening. helpppppppp plzz...............
[10:57] <indus> blackjak: did u install any software from outside synaptic?
[10:57] <blackjak> yes
[10:57] <indus> blackjak:which one
[10:57] <blackjak> many
[10:57] <blackjak> many
[10:57] <blackjak> vidalia
[10:57] <blackjak> some drivers
[10:57] <FloodBot2> blackjak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <blackjak> ok
[10:57] <indus> blackjak: anyways, now try updating synaptic< click on reload
[10:58] <xman> indus: can u help me?
[10:58] <norkakn> xman: what partition has XP?
[10:58] <xman> norkakn: first partition of hard disk
[10:58] <norkakn> xman: sata? so sda1?
[10:58] <UBestB> xman, did you try the vista loader?
[10:59] <UBestB> it's probably just the windows bootloader it detected
[10:59] <xman> norkakn: SATA
[10:59] <xman> UBestB: i tried but it gives error
[10:59] <norkakn> xman: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/booting-into-winblows-xp-with-grub-529645/ <- that, but change it to fit your hd schema
[10:59] <blackjak> yes I press reload.nothing happens
[11:00] <indus> blackjak: dont you see a window asking for password with some horizontal bar moving
[11:00] <blackjak> no
[11:00] <indus> blackjak: lets try the terminal now
[11:00] <BlackFate> blackjak, ls /var/lib/dpkg/info | grep adobe*
[11:00] <indus> blackjak: close synaptic for now
[11:00] <norkakn> xman: oops, actually, that one sucks a bit
[11:01] <BlackFate> indus, we tried terminal
[11:01] <norkakn> xman: put your menu.lst on pastebin
[11:01] <indus> BlackFate: whats his problem ?
[11:01] <kholzer> indus: It won't purge
[11:01] <xman> norkakn: ok i m doing that wait a min
[11:01] <indus> kholzer: purge what
[11:01] <BlackFate> indus, cant remove adobe-flashplugin.. we tried apt-get force   , dpkg -P
[11:01] <xman> !pastebin
[11:01] <blackjak> ok i m in the directory
[11:01] <BlackFate> blackjak,
[11:02] <BlackFate> are there any files adobe-flash* ?
[11:02] <blackjak> yes
[11:02] <indus> BlackFate: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[11:02] <andrewz__> hi, when in synaptic how do i search for packages that names/descritions have TWO terms?  for example if i search for java database i get results for BOTH (way too many)
[11:02] <BlackFate> indus, did that..
[11:02] <xman> norkakn: check this dude http://paste.ubuntu.com/272679/
[11:02] <BlackFate> blackjak, remove em
[11:02] <indus> BlackFate: what tells you its not been removed'
[11:02] <indus> ?
[11:02] <BlackFate> blackjak, rm adobe-flash*
[11:02] <kholzer> blackjak: Try it with flashplugin-nonfree
[11:03] <indus> sudo apt-get remove adobe-flashplugin
[11:03] <BlackFate> indus, just scroll up , see the logs and after that join conversation
[11:03] <kholzer> blackjak: (when you get a second.  Try the dpkg -P flashplugin-nonfree)
[11:03] <norkakn> xman: and the vista one does not work?
[11:03] <indus> blackjak: :)
[11:03] <indus> BlackFate: :) D
[11:03] <indus> SORRY
[11:03] <xman> norkakn: i removed vista and then installed xp and ubuntu
[11:03] <blackjak> http://pastebay.com/54992
[11:04] <BlackFate> blackjak, nono
[11:04] <BlackFate> blackjak, remove these files
[11:04] <norkakn> xman: but the loader code should be the same
[11:04] <xman> xman: sorry buit didnt get you..
[11:04] <BlackFate> blackjak, sudo rm -rf  var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin*
[11:04] <BlackFate> blackjak, sudo rm -rf  /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin*
[11:04] <BlackFate> this
[11:05] <blackjak> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove flashplugin-nonfree which isn't installed.
[11:05] <BlackFate> blackjak, and after you do that
[11:05] <indus> so the packge seems removed
[11:05] <indus> ?
[11:05] <BlackFate> reinstall package adobe-flashplugin
[11:05] <talin> hello. i would like to add an additional root-user on my server. how can i do that?
[11:06] <blackjak> ok
[11:06] <kholzer> talin: what do you mean by an additional root user?  one that can sudo?
[11:06] <talin> kholzer: yes
[11:06] <kholzer> talin: add them to the `wheel' group
[11:06] <Pirate_Hunter> Just installed moblock however it wont start, http://paste.ubuntu.com/272681/, can anyone help me get moblock working?
[11:06] <talin> kholzer: ok, thank you
[11:06] <norkakn> xman: try selecting vista from the boot menu, it might boot XP for you
[11:06] <_chetan_> !pastebin
[11:06] <kholzer> talin: actually...
[11:06] <BlackFate> kholzer, wheel?
[11:06] <xman> norkakn: i tried that but its not booting
[11:06] <kholzer> talin: add them to the admin group.
[11:06] <BlackFate> kholzer, its linux here.. not bsd
[11:06] <_chetan_> !ubottu
[11:07] <kholzer> BlackFate: sorry, most distros I've used have used wheel :)
[11:07] <UBestB> xman, you'll need to alter your grub entry
[11:07] <kholzer> BlackFate: But I checked it :)
[11:07] <kholzer> talin: if you sudo visudo, you can see which group it is (or modify how sudo works.)
[11:08] <blackjak> http://pastebay.com/54993
[11:08] <blackjak> there are errors
[11:08] <xman> UBestB: how
[11:08] <norkakn> xman: try changing rootnoverify	(hd0,1) to rootnoverify	(hd0,0) then run sudo update-grub
[11:09] <talin> kholzer: i did "sudo useradd game"
[11:09] <UBestB> xman, sudo fdisk -l , see which partitions have an * in the boot one should be ubuntu and one should be windows
[11:09] <aniket> hello this is the first time that i am using xubuntu .can anyone tell me how to modify the  xorg.conf file??????
[11:09] <talin> kholzer: how can i add groups to "game"?
[11:09] <kholzer> talin: are you comfortable in a text editor?
[11:09] <Mauriz1> ciao
[11:09] <Mauriz1> !list
[11:09] <talin> kholzer: yes
[11:09] <kholzer> talin: okay, then sudo vigr
[11:09] <hemanth> is it possible to set the KDE desktop effects to default settings from Gnome desktop ? Cos after a change in the desktop effects setting in kde its not working, but gnome is fine, please help me on this issue
[11:10] <TimothyA> hmmm... can I ask for support about 'du' here?
[11:10] <BlackFate> blackjak, you reinstalled it after you removed these files?
[11:10] <joaopinto> TimothyA, just if you have read it's manpage: man du
[11:10] <blackjak> how to reinstall it?
[11:10] <kholzer> talin: search for the admin group, then add a user to the userlist (the last field on the line).  the userlist is comma separated.
[11:10] <blackjak> I typed apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[11:10] <TimothyA> joaopinto; well, the man page doesn't say anything about excluding directories from being returned. I just want the files.
[11:11] <BlackFate> blackjak, sudo rm -rf  /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin*
[11:11] <greg_universe> [24 987vb[24~[23~[24~[23[24
[11:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Just installed moblock however it wont start, http://paste.ubuntu.com/272681/, can anyone help me get moblock working?
[11:11] <BlackFate> blackjak, you typed it weong
[11:11] <talin> kholzer: oki, thank you
[11:11] <kholzer> talin: cool :)
[11:11] <BlackFate> blackjak, you forgot a / in frond of var
[11:11] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: find might be more what you are looking for
[11:11] <blackjak> ok trying again
[11:12] <joaopinto> TimothyA, you want the size of all files on a dir, without going into subdirs ?
[11:12] <TimothyA> joaopinto; i want the size of all files, inside directories. but I don't want the size of an directory
[11:12] <kholzer> blackjak: good luck; I'm sure you don'
[11:12] <BlackFate> blackjak, apg-get install adobe-flashplugin --reinstall
[11:12] <kholzer> blackjak: *sure you don't need to reinstall
[11:12] <TimothyA> this includes subdirectories
[11:13] <xman> UBestB: the * is on swap memory
[11:13] <joaopinto> TimothyA, check --max-depth
[11:13] <blackjak> is that "rm -rf " a command for removing a directory?
[11:13] <kholzer> goodnight :)
[11:13] <Mauriz1> !list
[11:13] <BlackFate> blackjak, not always
[11:13] <TimothyA> joaopinto; i don't want it to return the filesize of the directory, at all
[11:13] <joaopinto> TimothyA, I guess you want --max-depth=1
[11:13] <UBestB> what device/partition?
[11:14] <UBestB> strange for it to exist on swap
[11:14] <chingus> Hey will this run ubuntu Beryl good:
[11:14] <chingus> 	Powercolor ATi Radeon X1650 PRO 256MB AGP8x Display Card: 64-bit DDR2, VGA+DVI-I+S-Video Out, 600MHz Engine Clock, 330MHz x2 Memroy Clock?
[11:14] <UBestB> also xman was their 2 showing?
[11:14] <TimothyA> joaopinto; no!
[11:15] <chingus> Hey will this run ubuntu Beryl good? Can someone help is this Graphics card good for Ubuntu: Powercolor ATi Radeon X1650 PRO 256MB AGP8x Display Card: 64-bit DDR2, VGA+DVI-I+S-Video Out, 600MHz Engine Clock, 330MHz x2 Memroy Clock
[11:15] <TimothyA> i just don't want the line of the sum size of the directory in the list returned
[11:15] <xman> UBestB: there are 3 partitions first is XP, 2nd is Swap and 3rd is Ubuntu.
[11:16] <UBestB> and XP partition does not have a * ?
[11:16] <UBestB> ide drives or sata?
[11:16] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: you can use the -printf option to find to list a files size, and various other magic
[11:16] <blackjak> same thing.It removes the directory.No error.But when I try the command to reinstall it it gives error
[11:16] <blackjak> http://pastebay.com/54994
[11:17] <talin> every time i do something on this host, i get "unable to resolve hostname game2"
[11:17] <TimothyA> gpannwitz; ....
[11:17] <talin> where do i have to specify it other than /etc/hostname?
[11:17] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: use the -type f option to find to list only files
[11:18] <TimothyA> invalid option
[11:18] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: yes, you need to be carefull about giving each option parameters that it is expecting
[11:18] <TimothyA> gpannwitz; printf does not accept -t or -type or --type
[11:19] <userone> i am having some battery trouble on my brand new asus 1005ha. it worked perfectly under win xp, so its not a hardware issue. I installed ubuntu 9.04 (full, not nbr) and now the netbook wont even startup on battery power, even though the power meter shows 100% charge. Can any one help with this? there are some similar posts on the forums but no answers as yet.
[11:19] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: I will admit, find has a monster of a man page, but find is quite a usefull tool in my experience
[11:19] <frca1> hi, did you have problems with sound in ubuntu 8.10? especially realtek hd owners. i wanna know if these are still present in 9.04. thanks
[11:19]  * TimothyA facepalms
[11:20] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: you will probably not understand what find does (and how) in the first ten minutes, I will grant you that
[11:20] <TimothyA> gpannwitz; you told me to use printf instead of find -_-
[11:20] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: however, if you plan on doing  a lot of stuff on the command line, and perhaps some scripting, learning to use find can be worth your while :)
[11:20] <xman> UBestB: got any idea?
[11:20] <UBestB> private?
[11:21] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: find has an option called -printf
[11:22] <TimothyA> mentioning it would have helped :@
[11:23] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: :)
[11:23] <gpannwitz> TimothyA: IRC people are still just people, with imperfections
[11:24] <blackjak> ok 10x guys for the help.I'll try again tomorrow.Or maybe I'll just reinstall ubuntu
[11:27] <userone> which utility controls battery usage? acpid?
[11:28] <userone> or, how can i check the battery in the ubuntu equivalent of 'device manager'?
[11:28] <jdb> userone: check /proc/acpi/battery
[11:29] <Terry> anyone knows norton ghost?
[11:29] <jpic> hi, what actually happens when i customize the screens layout in ubuntu? is there anyway i can reuse that configuration without gnome?
[11:30] <chingus> How do you find the processor size on Ubuntu?
[11:30] <gpannwitz> jpic: do you mean the layout of the panels and desktop icons and such ?
[11:30] <jpic> chingus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:30] <chingus> jpic thanks
[11:30] <userone> jdb: thanks...at least thats a start! i didnt even know where to begin! :-)
[11:30] <jpic> gpannwitz: just the panels, i don't care about icons, floating icons etc ...
[11:31] <jpic> i'm trying to setup dwm, and i've had bad results with xrandr so fare
[11:31] <Terry> norton ghost, any knows about it..?
[11:32] <chingus> How can I find the graphics card size on ubuntu?
[11:32] <UBestB> Terry yes, but didn't know it ran on nix
[11:32] <chingus> I tried lspci
[11:33] <chingus> How can I find the graphics card size on ubuntu?
[11:33] <Terry> UBestB: i just want to know that if i had created image of c drive from norton ghost, can i use that image on different hdd?
[11:33] <chingus> jpic, any idea on how can I find the graphics card size on ubuntu?
[11:33] <talin> if i get a segfault during boot, where can i see what it was that failed?
[11:33] <chingus> jpic: any idea on how can I find the graphics card size on ubuntu?
[11:34] <gpannwitz> chingus: patience
[11:34] <norkakn> chingus: what graphics card do you have?
[11:34] <gpannwitz> chingus: lshw sometimes has more extensive info on hardware
[11:34] <UBestB> Terry, usually you can but it's confined to the size of C drive, you can't be less
[11:35] <chingus> gpannwitz: which part of lshw should I look under?
[11:35] <Terry> UBestB: yes i know, before my c drive has total 15gb, in new hdd it has 20 gb, is that ok?
[11:35] <BlackFate> chingus, sudo lshw -C display
[11:36] <gpannwitz> chingus: I am not sure, I usually just pipe the output to less and look around till I find what looks like what I want
[11:36] <UBestB> yes, but C drive will stay 15GB, it doesn't increase, you'd need a partition editor to increase it
[11:36] <UBestB> Terry, don't quote me on that though, maybe Ghost has changed since I used it... and that was years ago
[11:36] <chingus> BlackFate: k I did that but there is tons of information what gives me the size? It says width: 32 bits, is that it?
[11:37] <BlackFate> chingus, size on what?
[11:37] <chingus> BlackFate: size of my Graphics card.
[11:37] <BlackFate> chingus, dimension? memory? clock?
[11:37] <BlackFate> chingus, what?
[11:37] <Terry> UBestB: thats ok, you mean i have image of windows xp(15gb c drive), and i can just restore that windows xp on different hdd which is also 15gb c drive, right?
[11:38] <DJones> Terry: You're likely to get a better answer in #windows, rather than here, there's more chance of people using norton ghost in a windows channel
[11:38] <Terry> thanx
[11:38] <Terry> join
[11:38] <chingus> BlackFate: I don't know those details - kind of a noob. You know how you say a graphics card is 512 MB and stuff like that? Thats what I mean.
[11:38] <Terry> join #windows
[11:38] <UBestB> yea, as long as it fits... but even in larger drives... it still only creates a partition of 15gb, so you'll need to resize it to fill the other drive if that's what you need
[11:38] <BlackFate> chingus, what graphics card you have?
[11:39] <chingus> BlackFate: description: VGA compatible controller product: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[11:39] <Terry> UBestB: it means i don;t have to install windows xp again on new hdd, just have to do some changes like drivers n softwares?
[11:39] <DeadNBl00DY> hello
[11:39] <userone> jdb: i did sudo gedit /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info but there is nothing in the file. there is another file called state. how do i check these files?
[11:39] <chingus> chingus: description: VGA compatible controller product: 82865G Integrated Graphics Controlle
[11:40] <chingus> oops error sorry
[11:40] <Terry> join /#windows
[11:40] <UBestB> Terry, moving it to a new computer or the same?
[11:40] <norkakn> chingus: 0MB :)
[11:40] <DJones> Terry: "/join #windows" without the quotes
[11:40] <Terry> difference?
[11:40] <norkakn> chingus: You have an integrated graphics card, so it uses you main RAM
[11:40] <chingus> norkakn: is it really that poor?
[11:41] <chingus> norkakn: in that case would it be like 1 GB?
[11:41] <UBestB> well, if it's a new computer, it'll have new hardware... which XP should be fine with detecting and fixing driver issues... hopefully
[11:41] <norkakn> chingus:  It's fine for a laptop, not so hot for gaming.  Is this a laptop or desktop?
[11:41] <chingus> norkakn: desktop.
[11:41] <chingus> norkakn: I wanted it for Beryl and ubuntu effects.
[11:41] <Terry> UBestB: in same computer its very easy, i think?
[11:41] <BlackFate> Chiliblue, in frond of lspci line there are some number right?
[11:42] <UBestB> same computer no changes are necessary, just Windows will detect the larger drive and fix that
[11:42] <norkakn> chingus: try it out, I have integrated graphics on my laptop, and I'm still able to run a bit of the eye candy.  If it isn't fast enough for you, you could pick up a few year old graphics card for really cheap
[11:42] <Terry> UBestB: and in vista it is complicated or easy like xp
[11:42] <Terry> UBestB: and in vista it is complicated or easy like xp?
[11:42] <UBestB> should be the same
[11:42] <chingus> norkakn: I am planning on buying a good graphics card, does this look good? Powercolor ATi Radeon HD3450 512MB AGP Display Card: AGP x8, 64-bit GDDR2, VGA+DVI+S-Video Ou
[11:42] <BlackFate> Chiliblue, mine is  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT (rev a1)
[11:42] <BlackFate> Chiliblue, mine is  01:00.0
[11:42] <BlackFate> chingus,
[11:43] <BlackFate> chingus, give me the number from lspci
[11:43] <BlackFate> chingus, for example 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT (rev a1)
[11:43] <chingus> BlackFate: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:43] <BlackFate> chingus, there is a number in front of this line?
[11:43] <Terry> UBestB: is there any software like ghost in ubuntu, for making drive image and use it later?
[11:44] <coz_> Terry, yeah there are hold on
[11:44] <chingus> BlackFate, 00:02.0
[11:44] <userone> all the files in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1 are empty. how am I supposed to use these files to check the battery is being detected and working?
[11:44] <BlackFate> chingus, lspci -v -s 00:02.0
[11:44] <BlackFate> chingus, and you ll get all the info you need
[11:45] <coz_> Terry,  http://www.junauza.com/2009/01/7-best-freeopen-source-backup-software.html
[11:45] <userone> Blackfate: do you know how i can get info on my laptop battery?
[11:45] <chingus> BlackFate, for games and "ubuntu eyecandy" does this card look good? Powercolor ATi Radeon HD3450 512MB AGP Display Card: AGP x8, 64-bit GDDR2, VGA+DVI+S-Video Out
[11:45] <Terry> UBestB: i have usb startup usb drive, can i add password on that?
[11:45] <Philpax> Hi
[11:45] <UBestB> Terry, there is G4L
[11:45] <chingus> norkakn, the desktop effects don't work at all...
[11:46] <BlackFate> chingus, im not big fan of ati, you get flickering problems
[11:46] <UBestB> you mean like password protect it?
[11:46] <maxagaz> how to check which application use which port of the network ?
[11:46] <norkakn> BlackFate: all the flickering problems are generally solvable (4850 here)
[11:46] <chingus> BlackFate, I don't have much choice, my computer only handles AGP...
[11:46] <coz_> userone,  try here   http://embraceubuntu.com/2007/04/08/getting-details-about-my-laptop-battery-and-taking-care-of-it/
[11:46] <BlackFate> userone, cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
[11:47] <chingus> norkakn, so if I install the Powercolor ATi Radeon HD3450 512MB AGP Display Card: AGP x8, 64-bit GDDR2, VGA+DVI+S-Video Out it is better than the integrated chipset I have now?
[11:47] <BlackFate> norkakn, x11 is not always a good solution
[11:47] <Philpax> Hi
[11:47] <Notch-1> hi all, i can't found a solution to this: i have a 2.6.28-15-generic kernel and after recompilig (using the same .config file) i get 2.6.28.10-generic, so i can't use backports and restricted anymnore, what can i do?
[11:47] <userone> BlackFate: I tried that but does files are empty
[11:47] <userone> coz_:thanks..let me look at that link
[11:47] <coz_> userone,   also here   http://blog.cybermogi.net/2009/09/check-your-laptop-battery-status-from-the-terminal/
[11:48] <chingus> Notch-1, sudo apt-get update then upgrade I think.
[11:48] <BlackFate> userone, in general check inside /proc/acpi/battery
[11:49] <norkakn> chingus: yeah, that would work, probably almost any would work.  You should check with the product that you want to install and see what their system requirements are
[11:49] <Burning_aces> hi there, i was wondering if there is a way to move a terminal file to /usr/bin
[11:49] <norkakn> BlackFate:  You are referring to the video playback stuff?
[11:49] <chingus> norkakn, sweet thanks.
[11:49] <Philpax1> Hi
[11:49] <chingus> Well thanks all /quit
[11:49] <BlackFate> norkakn, y
[11:50] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, you can with sudo, but not recommended... you can make a bin folder to your home dir
[11:50] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, and execute globally your scripts from the specific user
[11:50] <Burning_aces> BlackFate: its the cowpatty executable
[11:50] <Burning_aces> i prefer it in the /usr/bin directory so i dont have to cd to that directory if i want to run it
[11:50] <Philpax1> I'm having a problem with GRUB2. Now that I have it installed, I can no longer boot into Windows Vista. I know it is specific to GRUB2 because I had it chainloaded with Legacy before, and I could boot into Vista using Legacy's entry.
[11:51] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, if you put it inside ~/bin you wont have to cd
[11:51] <Burning_aces> ok
[11:51] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, its like /usr/bin but for only this user
[11:51] <Burning_aces> can i copy straight to that or do i need a command of some sort?
[11:51] <silare> Are there any good music notation softwares for GNOME/GTK?
[11:52] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, you can copy it or you can link it
[11:52] <Burning_aces> what is the command
[11:52] <gallbladder> can anyone tell me how I can get encrypted super-OS?
[11:52] <Burning_aces> im guessing you cant drag and drop
[11:52] <Philpax1> Can anyone help me with my GRUB2 problem?
[11:53] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, first mkdir ~/bin
[11:53] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, then copy youfile ~/bin
[11:53] <wern> gparted is fialign to read my partitions correctly
[11:53] <norkakn> silar: there are many, many, many music related things.  It all depends on what you want.  Check out rosegarden and lilypond
[11:53] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, cp /dir/file ~/bin
[11:53] <wern> i have 2 ntfs partitions for windows, OS and Data, but its reading them as fat32
[11:53] <wern> and as incorrect sizes
[11:53] <wern> but they still mount and i can browse them
[11:54] <BlackFate> wern, how do you mount em?
[11:54] <wern> mount -ntfs /dev/sda2 /data
[11:54] <BlackFate> na
[11:54] <wern> im trying to use 20gb of unallocated space to create an ext3 partition to install ubuntu on
[11:54] <wern> but it wont let me do that either.
[11:54] <wern> its reading everything completely wrong.
[11:54] <BlackFate> wern, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[11:54] <wern> i have that.
[11:55] <wern> im doing this from the life cd.
[11:55] <BlackFate> wern, then  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /data
[11:55] <wern> ..
[11:55] <wern> its mounting perfectly fine
[11:55] <wern> its gparted that cannot see them correct.
[11:55] <wern> ly
[11:55] <FloodBot2> wern: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <Burning_aces> BlackFate: mitch@ubuntu:~$ cp /home/mitch/cowpatty-4.3/cowpatty ~/bin
[11:55] <Burning_aces> mitch@ubuntu:~$ cowpatty
[11:55] <Burning_aces> bash: cowpatty: command not found
[11:55] <silare> norkakn: Are they qt or gtk?
[11:55] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, damn.. there is problem.. you need to set the path.. never mid..
[11:55] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, sudo su
[11:56] <wern> basically
[11:56] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, and then   cp /home/mitch/cowpatty-4.3/cowpatty /usr/bin
[11:56] <wern> live cd and the install cant read the drive correctly.
[11:56] <Philpax1> Is there an IRC channel dedicated to GRUB?
[11:56] <wern> 20gb of unformatted space is being read as 30, my 20gb OS drive is being read as 100mb
[11:56] <BlackFate> phillies_fan, #grub
[11:56] <Burning_aces> BlackFate: thank you
[11:56] <wern> all wacky, but windows reads and can use them perfectly
[11:56] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, dont forget to clean up ~/bin
[11:57] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, rm -rf ~/bin
[11:57] <Burning_aces> BlackFate: why?
[11:57] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, you dont need it :P
[11:57] <Burning_aces> ah i see
[11:57] <Burning_aces> done
[11:57] <Burning_aces> thanks again BlackFate
[11:57] <BlackFate> Burning_aces, np
[11:58] <DJones> Philpax1: You could ask in #ubuntu+1 about grub2, I think the development version of ubuntu uses grub2 so they may be able to help, although they may just refer you to the grub channel
[11:58] <wern> i cant really think of what to do next.
[11:59] <BlackDalek> I have problem with pulse audio stuttering during playback of audio files
[11:59] <norkakn> silare: lilypond, I don't think either, but I'm not sure, rg: qt
[11:59] <silare> norkakn: It's its own thing? o.O
[12:00] <BlackDalek> I have problem with pulse audio stuttering during playback of audio files. How can I fix this?
[12:00] <norkakn> silare: denemo looks like a gtk front end for it
[12:00] <luist> hey... i had replaced metacity to emerald but after i restarted my window borders are metacity again.... how can i make the changes permanent?
[12:00] <silare> Oh, okay. For Lilypond?
[12:01] <silare> norkakn: (above) Sorry, I forgot to tag your name earlier.
[12:01] <whateversam> Is anyone here familiar with running a server inside a virtual environment?  Specifically with getting a server to listen on x port and getting that port to forward from WAN side to the virtual LAN.
[12:01] <p2rn4> anyone know how could I lock my keyboard in ubuntu (jaunty) for 5 min?
[12:01] <norkakn> silare: RAM is cheap though, why do you want to only use GTK?
[12:02] <UBestB> p2rn4: what do you mean by lock keyboard?
[12:02] <BlackFate> p2rn4, locking your screen?:P is an option?
[12:02] <p2rn4> well
[12:02] <silare> norkakn: I just prefer it. I can use either, really. And I have enoguh RAM that it isn't much a problem.
[12:02] <Burning_aces> is there a way to make a script to iwlist scan wlan0
[12:02] <glickity> hey is anyone running ubuntu on a eee pc
[12:02] <Burning_aces> iwlist wlan0 scan sorry
[12:02] <silare> norkakn: I used to be a big KDE user, though I've slowly turned to GNOME, and I've come to like GTK...
[12:02] <serendipity> can any one guide me how to connect to internet using ubuntu 8.04
[12:02] <BlackDalek> audio playback in Rhythmbox went bad after upgrade to 9.04
[12:02] <joaopinto> whateversam, that depends on the virtualization tecnhology that you are using
[12:02] <p2rn4> I┬┤m trying to create a bash script which after every 7200 seconds turns off screen and keyboard for 5 min.
[12:02] <Burning_aces> is there a way to make a script for that
[12:02] <glickity> was wondering if anyone has had an issue of the eeepc turning off unexpectantly
[12:02] <p2rn4> so people would actually rest their eyes for 5 min
[12:03] <UBestB> p2rn4 it's possible
[12:03] <norkakn> silare: if you are more of a wysiwyg person, there is MuseScore, but it is also QT
[12:03] <p2rn4> yea, but I┬┤m all out of ideas how to
[12:03] <p2rn4> I have timer already
[12:03] <p2rn4> and I know how to shut down monitor succesfully
[12:04] <p2rn4> but keyboard...
[12:04] <jrib> p2rn4: why do you want to turn off the keyboard out of curiousity?
[12:04] <whateversam> joaopinto, well, I have been using virtual box.  I have read the documentation on it, and I believe it is correctly configured.  However, I still have not been able to get even a LAN connection to the virtual machine.  I am able to connect the VM to anything on my LAN and even bring up WAN connections.  I have yet to figure out how to get a computer to connect to the VM.
[12:04] <wern> df -h shows the partitions and their correct sizes
[12:04] <UBestB> there's a perl script you could modify
[12:04] <wern> but gparted is still failboating
[12:04] <serendipity> Hello room... is this ubuntu support room? can some one help me
[12:04] <jrib> !ask | serendipity
[12:04] <UBestB> it's called lock keyboard for baby
[12:04] <silare> norkakn: Alright. I'll look into all three then. THanks.
[12:04] <n3f> hi everyone
[12:05] <UBestB> works differently, as in you need to type a certain word for it to unlock, however, you could just create a timer for it
[12:05] <p2rn4> hmm
[12:05] <p2rn4> could u send link in pm please?
[12:06] <DJones> p2rn4: For the keyboard, have you looked at keyboard preferences and the Typeing Break setting, tick the box Lock screen to enforce typing break" and then set work interval and break interval
[12:06] <whateversam> joaopinto, do you have experience with virtual servers?  If so what has been your preferred software for it?
[12:06] <BlackDalek> If I play music through totem movie player, it plays fine, but if I play using Rhythmbox I get stuttering, skipping, crackling audio.... why?
[12:06] <n3f> I got a problem with my ubuntu 8.04.. The default domain where my machine is located is at Workspace domain. Now how do I change that to another domain?
[12:07] <UBestB> p2rn4: http://www.pastebin.org/18464
[12:07] <p2rn4> hmm actually I havent tried it DJones
[12:07] <jaspion_me> join #asterisk-br
[12:07] <elky> serendipity, you don't need to ask permission to ask a question.
[12:08] <DJones> p2rn4: Its sounds like it'd do pretty much what you want for Gnome anyway, I would guess theres a similar option for kde as well
[12:08] <UBestB> that typing break sounds better than the script
[12:08] <wern> i have made some progress i guess.
[12:08] <wern> does anyone mind if i explain my predicament again
[12:09] <p2rn4> it kinda does, but surely there are cli commadnds for this, right?
[12:09] <m477> i try : "sudo mount -o loop  master.dat /media/cdrom" and i got "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[12:09] <m477> can anyone help
[12:09] <wern> -t something.
[12:10] <m477> ?
[12:10] <wern> -t specifies type
[12:10] <wern> -t filesystemtype
[12:10] <wern> whatever it may be
[12:10] <m477> mount: unknown filesystem type 'filesystemtype'
[12:11] <Burning_aces> anyone here know how to make a terminal script that can be placed on desktop that does iwlist wlan0 scan
[12:11] <friendishan> how to apply this command rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql* ?
[12:12] <n3f> I got a problem with my ubuntu 8.04.. The default domain where my machine is located is at Workspace domain. Now how do I change that to another domain?
[12:12] <joaopinto> whateversam, I have some experience with vmware
[12:13] <whateversam> joaopinto, have you been able to get a server running in it?  I have tried most of the free ones, and I have used VMware in the past, but I have not used it for running a server.
[12:14] <BlackFate> p2rn4, usb keyboard?
[12:14] <friendishan> how to apply this command rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql* ?
[12:14] <friendishan> !patience
[12:14] <andrey__> hello everybody, i need a help with my builtin webcam in Lenovo 3000 n100, i cant install it , i have ubuntu 9.04
[12:14] <joaopinto> whateversam, I did, without any issues
[12:14] <p2rn4> laptop or usb, doesn matter, information one way or another is always useful
[12:15] <wern> virtualbox is nice
[12:15] <wern> fyi
[12:15] <friendishan> !help
[12:15] <whateversam> joaopinto, did you have any problems with opening ports to the server that your host machine may be using?
[12:15] <friendishan> how to apply this command rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql* ?
[12:16] <joaopinto> whateversam, no,
[12:16] <andrey__> webcam in Lenovo 3000 n100, i cant install it , i have ubuntu 9.04
[12:16] <joaopinto> whateversam, you just need to understanding on how the different network configuration schemes work, NAT, Bridged, etc
[12:16] <whateversam> wern, VB is nice, I'm using it right now, but it is not allowing me to do what I need.  I've read the documentation on networking with VB, but it still does not work.  If I knew why I could prolly fix it, but I haven't seen the reason.
[12:16] <friendishan> help me please
[12:16] <friendishan> how to apply this command rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql* ?
[12:16] <wern> yeah its port forwarding is a little sketchy
[12:17] <joaopinto> friendishan, just open a terminal and execute it, but be careful, you need to understand it's purpose
[12:17] <andrey__> friendishan what do u mean how to apply it ? you have to open terminal window and rewrite it there
[12:17] <joaopinto> whateversam, if you can't figure how to setup networking with VB, changing to VMWare will not help
[12:18] <wern> it might, its completely different.
[12:18] <andrey__> applications -> accessouries -> terminal
[12:18] <wern> and last i checked, a fair bit easier
[12:18] <optimus_p> where i ll get the object file for library maths or source code, on machine?
[12:18] <friendishan> joaopinto: anrey__ : i did but nothing happened is the command (rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/places.sql*) correct or is there something to be added ?
[12:18] <andrey__> how to isntall webcam in Lenovo 3000 n100, i cant install it , i have ubuntu 9.04
[12:19] <joaopinto> friendishan, nothing is expected to be printed, you are just removing files
[12:19] <andrey__> friendishan, rm - it's a delete command
[12:19] <whateversam> joaopinto, I have a good idea of how computer systems work.  I can get the VM to connect to the internet, but I don't seem to be able to get the right port open to the VM.  With VB you get only the command prompt to work with when making port changes.  It's possible that I mis-configured, but I am not getting any replys on ports that should be open by default.  (port 80 for example)
[12:19] <andrey__> i think nothing should be reported
[12:19] <friendishan> ok thanks^^
[12:20] <andrey__> webcam in Lenovo 3000 n100, i cant install it , i have ubuntu 9.04
[12:20] <BlackFate> p2rn4, disabling keyboard this .pl script that someone gave you is prete good. i did some searching on this and didint find any cli solution. how about monitor? you know how to do this?
[12:20] <BlackFate> with*
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:22] <luiX_> hi, i'm having problems with xen, anyone can help?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> luiX_: can you expand
[12:22] <luist> i installed an icon package but firefox icon wasnt change in avant-window-navigator, unlike all others... why is that??
[12:23] <luiX_> ActionParsnip, I had xen running, but since i rebooted it isn't working. The problem is that the network birdge doesn't exist anymore and I don't know how to solve it
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> luist: maybe awn needs restarting
[12:24] <whateversam> joaopinto, if I've bridged by connection then the virtual machine will be connected directly to my NIC.  This allows it to filter it's traffic off of my host machine to the virtual one.  This should also mean that both OSs are using the same IP as far as my LAN is concerned.  If all of this is true, and I do not have any firewalls enabled on my LAN or the host OS, and the host is not using the port in question, then the conne
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> luiX_: i dont use it myself but hopefully someone can now help
[12:24] <Burning_aces> BlackFate: do you know how to make a terminal script that can be placed on desktop that does iwlist wlan0 scan
[12:24] <luist> ActionParsnip: restarting the computer should have worked then... and all the icons changed in AWN but not few ones
[12:24] <joaopinto> whateversam, that is correct and should work
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> luist: try manually editting the icon
[12:25] <whateversam> joaopinto, oh how annoying that it's not, huh?  lol.  I think I'll bug the virtualbox IRCers about this one.  Thanks for your help.
[12:26] <alin_badila> hello
[12:26] <p2rn4> Blackfate yea I know about monitor: xsetk dpms force off
[12:26] <alin_badila> I am looking for a piece of advice
[12:27] <userone> coz_: just checked out the links...seems like I have let my battery charge out completely,but the battery state is still good. do you know how i can 'force' ubuntu to charge the battery?
[12:27] <alin_badila> I would like to buy a web domain and I don't know what to look at
[12:27] <p2rn4> but thanks for your opinion and help
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !ot | alin_badila
[12:27] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Lenovo3000N100_0768#preview andrey__
[12:27] <coz_> userone,  that one I am not sure of actually   let met check
[12:27] <alin_badila> ok
[12:27] <ideasman_42> Hi there, Im unable to uninstall flash with "dpkg --force-all --purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[12:27] <alin_badila> sorry
[12:28] <andrey__> bazhang, thanx , but it doesnt work .... :(
[12:28] <ideasman_42> it complains flash is in a bad state and should be re-installed..., but that wont work either
[12:28] <coz_> userone,   I cant find anything on that particular topic   which suggests to me that there is no simple way but then I am not real familiar with laptop options  with ubuntu
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: try: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin*
[12:28] <bazhang> andrey__, please explain what steps you have taken, what errors you have gotten; simply saying it doesn't work is not informative for troubleshooting
[12:29] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, same error
[12:30] <ideasman_42> "Package is in very bad inconsistant state - you should reinstall it before attempting removal"
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: can you use pastebin to provide the output
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:30] <alin_badila> how could I uninstall a package compiled from source? thanx
[12:30] <marine1> need help bypassing proxy at scholl
[12:30] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, in a terminal on a laptop so no :/
[12:30] <ideasman_42> could ssh in from this PC maybe
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> alin_badila: the make file will have a uninstall option on it (common)
[12:31] <alin_badila> @marine trey your-freedom.de
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: then you need the deb file
[12:31] <dante__> Cau , je tu nejaky cz kdo by mi poradil pls ??
[12:31] <alin_badila> so the command wold be sudo make uninstall?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: if you use the deb to install it again you can then remove
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> alin_badila: you'll have to check the make file
[12:31] <marine1> <alin_badila
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> alin_badila: usually, that is right
[12:32] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, cant it be removed from the database manually?
[12:32] <marine1> alin_badila HAS BEEN BARRED UNDER COMPANY POLICY ON USAGE OF THE INTERNET. THIS SITE FALLS INTO THE
[12:32] <marine1> Proxy Avoidance
[12:32] <ideasman_42> its blocking every other apt-get/dpkg/aptitude action :/
[12:32] <alaqsory> Hi all
[12:33] <marine1> <alin_badila that is what i get when trying to access that web site
[12:33] <Sagaci> !hi | alaqsory
[12:33] <andrey__> lemishehu esh kan ubuntu ve hu dover ivrit?
[12:34] <Pici> !en | andrey__
[12:34] <alin_badila> @marine1 - I don't understand. I can browse the site
[12:34] <andrey__> Pici , sorry !
[12:34] <alaqsory> I have a flash disk but did not work on ubuntu, I can see it but can not delet or add any files
[12:34] <marine1> alin_badila i can't I get that message the page is blocked
[12:35] <alaqsory> i tried to format it by gparted but i can not
[12:35] <marine1> alin_badila: ACCESS TO THE URL:
[12:35] <marine1> http://your-freedom.de/
[12:35] <marine1> HAS BEEN BARRED UNDER COMPANY POLICY ON USAGE OF THE INTERNET. THIS SITE FALLS INTO THE
[12:35] <marine1> Proxy Avoidance
[12:35] <FloodBot2> marine1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <alaqsory> i tried it on Windows
[12:35] <alaqsory> amassage appear "the disk is write protected" , I tried many tricks but all did not work.
[12:35] <Pici> marine1: We cannot help you bypass your schools proxy here, if you need to get to a site thats blocked you need to speak to your network's administrator.
[12:36] <marine1> alin_badila: is there a way around it
[12:36] <alaqsory> I first tried to edit the registry then tried to format it "low level format "
[12:36] <nathan7> There is ;)
[12:36] <nathan7> ...never
[12:36] <nathan7> ....NEVAR
[12:36] <nathan7> You can't be Kevin Mitnick.
[12:36] <alin_badila> @marine are you at school right now?
[12:37]  * nathan7 huggles Dvyjones 
[12:37] <azlon> i have 2 network connections, the first is a wired network throughout my house, the second is a 3G connection through my cell phone provider. my internet comes from the 3G connection, but when i have eth1 plugged in I can't access the internet. when i unplug it i can access the internet again. any ideas?
[12:37] <nathan7> Hmm
[12:37] <nathan7> Routing problem.
[12:37] <azlon> how can i tell ubuntu that the 3G connection is where my internet is, not the wired eth0 network
[12:37] <mitnick> nathan7:nice to meet you.
[12:38]  * nathan7 's head explodes
[12:38] <nathan7> mitnick: What country is .id?
[12:38] <marine1> alin_badila yes
[12:39] <nathan7> Ah, indonesia.
[12:39] <mitnick> nathan7: not a big boy. ehm
[12:40] <nathan7> mitnick: ...big boy?
[12:42] <mitnick> nathan7: you are the big boy? please help me to delete bla.bla.bla. lol
[12:43] <Pici> mitnick: Please stay on topic, this is the Ubuntu Support channel.
[12:43] <sander> hello everyone, have some trouble with python binaries.. maybe somebody knows what to do.
[12:43] <nathan7> mitnick: ...
[12:43] <sander> i accidentally overwritten them with symlinks
[12:43] <mitnick> nathan7: I'm really scare to join the channel, who's more big boys.
[12:43] <nathan7> sander: sudo apt-get --reinstall install python2.6
[12:43] <rsv> i have a dual boot system with xp and ubuntu; how can i access ubuntu partition from windows xp?
[12:43] <sander> now apt-get install --reinstall python2.5 doen't work
[12:44] <nathan7> Remove the symlinks.
[12:44] <mitnick> Pici: sorry, I'm sit down now.
[12:44] <sander> the symlinks are gone now
[12:44] <nathan7> rsv: Writing isn't really safe.
[12:44] <rsv> nathan: i want to read only
[12:44] <nathan7> rsv: Okay.
[12:44] <dos|equis> I have a problem
[12:44] <amine> Hello ... I need to setup a file server where I can upload files with a web page , and give addresses containing random characters.... is there any software for that? thanks
[12:45] <rsv> so which app i must use
[12:45] <nathan7> rsv: http://www.fs-driver.org
[12:45] <dos|equis> In my log.in screen, the screen resolution is 1152 x 864
[12:45] <nathan7> rsv: Make sure to make it read only.
[12:45] <sander> when i execute sander@sander-laptop$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.6
[12:46] <azlon> can i modify /etc/network/interfaces to allow me to access the internet from a connection other than eth0?
[12:46] <dos|equis> but in my desktop the resolution is 1152 x 768
[12:46] <sander> it fails at: /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst: 11: python2.6: not found
[12:46] <rsv> i installed that software and whenever i click my drive ; it says do you want to format it
[12:46] <GobiTheGoblin> Have you guys used that "Ubuntu on"? Any experiences: Good/bad?
[12:46] <GobiTheGoblin> Have you guys used that "Ubuntu one"? Any experiences: Good/bad?
[12:46] <rsv> so i came here
[12:46] <rsv> i use ext3
[12:46] <dos|equis> In my log.in screen, the screen resolution is 1152 x 864
[12:46] <dos|equis> but in my desktop the resolution is 1152 x 768
[12:47] <anakondaksa> h! guys
[12:47] <nathan7> rsv: it is compatible with ext2.
[12:47] <AAA> I have a problem with booting up my computer. I touch the power button and it works fine as it was doing but at last it does not show up the login screen as it was doing before?
[12:47] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: What graphic card?
[12:48] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : NVIDIA
[12:48] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : I guess I already have a driver
[12:48] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : But I'm not sure with that
[12:48] <rsv> okay i better reboot my system and access ubuntu instead
[12:48] <rsv> windows sucks
[12:49] <anakondaksa> i want extract file until in one package eg.files of film how
[12:49]  * nathan7 wonders who the hell mitnick is
[12:49] <indus> hi
[12:49] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: I had similar problems, with it. Try the original resolution changer. If I remember correctly, the problem went away with that. It is not a perfect solution, but it did the trick
[12:49] <Sagaci> !hi | indus
[12:49] <indus> thanks
[12:49] <eni23> hello everyone. i'v got a question. someone i know created a little cool programm called vsxu. it also works great with linux, but it's not in the repo. now i've created a debian-package. what i have to do for get it in to it?
[12:49] <indus> Sagaci: hello
[12:49] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: But use caution... I can't reproduce that I don't now have 9.04 in handy
[12:50] <indus> eni23: you need to contact the MOTU team
[12:50] <indus> !motu
[12:50] <eni23> ’╗┐indus: thanks!
[12:50] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: So if you run to problems, I cant help
[12:50] <indus> eni23: they have an irc room i believe, btw what is this cool software
[12:50] <sander> what can i try to reinstall python2.6 when $sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.6 fails
[12:50] <mitnick> nathan7: keep spirit on linux ubuntu, god bless you.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> sander: what is the output
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !info python2.6
[12:51] <DJones> eni23: I think the motu channel is #ubuntu-motu thats probably a good place to ask the question
[12:51] <Sagaci> !info non-free-codecs
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[12:52] <sander> ActionParsnip: the output is: /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst: 11: python2.6: not found
[12:52] <Sagaci> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:52] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : My only problem is that my login screen runs in 1152 x 864. After the login screen, the screen resolution changes to 1152 x 768.
[12:52] <podman99> hey all ... im able to use fsck.mdraid ... says its not installed ... which packages includes this? cant find it in google
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> sander: what is the output of: file /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst
[12:53] <azlon> bah! i cant get my ppp connection to work when eth0 is enabled!
[12:53] <nathan7> podman99: mdraid isn't a filesystem I think.
[12:53] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Do you have nvidias x server settings in system -> preferences?
[12:54] <nathan7> podman99: ANd there's no package containing an fsck for it
[12:54] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : W8, I'm gonna check it.
[12:54] <nathan7> podman99: Fsck==FileSystem ChecK
[12:54] <podman99> how can i fsck a type fd (fdisk)
[12:54] <podman99> or a disk check?
[12:54] <sander> ActionParsnip: sander@sander-laptop:~$ file /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst
[12:54] <sander> /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst: POSIX shell script text executable
[12:54] <Socrates_> hey all
[12:54] <Socrates_>  wsup
[12:54] <Sagaci> !hi | Socrates_
[12:55] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Nope. I can't see any.
[12:55] <Socrates_> can anyone help me
[12:55] <sander> ActionParsnip: it seems to me that apt-get has a dependency on python itself....
[12:55] <nathan7> sander: Apt-get is perl.
[12:55] <glickity> is there a easy way to do a bios update in ubuntu?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> sander: you may find you need to edit that file to make the postinst run
[12:55] <nathan7> glickity: Usually you get the DOS update util, and make a FreeDOS disk.
[12:56] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Have you installed nVidias proprietary drivers from restricted drivers?
[12:56] <glickity> nathan7, im on a eeepc
[12:56] <sander> nathan7: ok
[12:56] <nathan7> glickity: You can get a utility from Dell to do the DOS disk thing automatically
[12:56] <nathan7> glickity: Hmm
[12:56] <Socrates_> just installed sidux on my machine ...and only gettting a grub menu
[12:56] <sander> ActionParsnip: i'll try to find where the error occurs
[12:56] <nathan7> Socrates_: #ubunu, not #sidux in here.
[12:56] <Socrates_> i have ubantu installed on it as well
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> sander: you may find there is an if...fi statement you can edit out
[12:56] <nathan7> Socrates_: #ubuntu, not #ubantu.
[12:56] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : How can I check that?
[12:56] <nathan7> glickity: You can put it on a USB stick
[12:56] <Socrates_> yes that one
[12:57] <nathan7> glickity: I can't test it, I lost my EEE charger
[12:57] <sander> ActionParnip: the postinstall says: python2.6 /usr/lib/python2.6/py_compile.py $files
[12:57] <nathan7> sander: That's normal.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> sander: hmmm, interesting
[12:57] <Socrates_> j need to switch to ubuntu but it wont go there.
[12:57] <sander> ActionParsnip: but the python2.6 is not yet installed
[12:57] <Socrates_> just gettng a grub menu
[12:57] <nathan7> Socrates_: Sidux broke it.
[12:57] <Socrates_> noooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> sander: I've had packages bork on postinst files and had to edit the file so it does not checking
[12:58] <nathan7> Socrates_: So go to #sidux or something, and ask *THEM* how to unbreak what they broke
[12:58] <sander> nathan7: however i try to reinstall python2.6
[12:58] <cheater> hey guys, how can i run gnome-terminal so that the console pwd is a path i specify?
[12:58] <madmayr> whats the name of this tune?
[12:58] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Ok, this is taking a wrong turn..  you have to ask these other nice people to help, because as I said, I don't have 9.04 in use right now... I might give you bad advice.
[12:58] <nathan7> what tune
[12:58] <cheater> i've made a keyboard shortcut for gnome-terminal but it starts out at /, and i want it to start out at ~
[12:58] <nathan7> Hmm, strange.
[12:58] <userone> coz_: no worries..
[12:59] <madmayr> from whom is this remix?
[12:59] <nathan7> cheater: echo '[ "$(pwd)" = "/" ]&&cd ~'>>~/.bashrc
[12:59] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : I'm still using 8.04
[12:59] <nathan7> madmayr: This is #ubuntu.
[12:59] <Deiu> Hello!
[12:59] <sander> nathan7: somehow the /usr/bin/python2.6 is never installed
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sander: you could download the deb and force-all install it
[12:59] <nathan7> sander: Strange.
[12:59] <nathan7> sander: Very strange.
[12:59] <Deiu> Why isn't 2.6.30 suggested as update?
[12:59] <Deiu> It's been out for ages.
[12:59] <nathan7> sander: As ActionParsnip says, get the deb.
[12:59] <sander> ActionParsnip: ok i will try that!
[13:00] <nathan7> Linux lion 2.6.31-6-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 14 16:25:04 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:00] <nathan7> ^from packages
[13:00] <nathan7> Oh, wait
[13:00] <azlon1> i cant get my ppp connection to work when eth0 is enabled!
[13:00] <nathan7> I'm on 9.10
[13:00] <sander> thanks ActionParsnip and nathan7!
[13:00] <FloodBot2> nathan7: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:00]  * nathan7 stabs FloodBot2 
[13:00] <nathan7> ...why can't those floodbots die in a big datacenter fire
[13:00] <Pici> nathan7: Perhaps you should stop flooding and they wouldnt annoy you.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> nathan7: stops floods on the channel
[13:00] <Pici> !latest | Deiu
[13:01] <Deiu> 2.6.31 is latest ;)
[13:01] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: I think the problem lies now with some wrongly given value in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:01] <nathan7> ActionParsnip: Even though I live in Holland, I'm not that dumb to not get that.
[13:01] <Deiu> Not to mention that it has been released as "stable"
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> nathan7: ask a silly question
[13:01] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : What shall I do with this?
[13:01] <nathan7> ActionParsnip: Impossible ;)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> :D
[13:01] <nathan7> Although the person asking it *can* be stupid
[13:01] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: But in your situation, I would suggest to upgrade to 9.04 it is much easier to use
[13:02] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Ok... Thanks.
[13:02] <nathan7> Why does apelW's IP seem scarily familiar
[13:02] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Do you know how to upgrade?
[13:02] <nathan7> oh right
[13:02] <nathan7> My granddad's IP is 62. too
[13:02] <dos|equis> Yes.
[13:02] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Yes
[13:03] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : But I don't to have time to upgrade my system yet.
[13:03] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: k. Btw: it is muuuuuch faster too
[13:03] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : 9.04?
[13:03] <azlon1> how do i make ppp0 access the internet instead of eth0?
[13:03] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Yea. Boot time is like 1/3 of the old one
[13:03] <nathan7> 9.04 is speedy.
[13:03] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : I need to upgrade from 8.10 before I can get to 9.04
[13:03] <nathan7> 9.10 even more so.
[13:03]  * nathan7 is loving 9.10
[13:04] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Not sure, I don't think so
[13:04] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Can I skip the upgrade process?
[13:04] <nathan7> dos|equis: You can upgrade from any version.
[13:04] <indus> dos|equis: nope,
[13:04] <GobiTheGoblin> nathan7, It's good when its working =) dev versions have their clinches....
[13:04] <indus> dos|equis: no skipping hopping, you need to go through each version
[13:05] <Deiu> Is there a ubuntu repository dedicated to kernel only?
[13:05] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: well if it suggest first to upgrade to 8.10 then I guess it would be best to do it that way...
[13:05] <indus> dos|equis: or use a cd and updgrade, in fact if u have an alternate cd, you can upgrade from cd
[13:05] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Yeah, I know.
[13:05] <nathan7> GobiTheGoblin: True.
[13:05] <nathan7> GobiTheGoblin: But I have the latest stuff.
[13:05]  * nathan7 likes that
[13:05] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: Clean install is a option too, but remember that it format your HD too, so any documents etc needs to be sabed
[13:05] <nathan7> GobiTheGoblin: I'm always ahead of the crowd
[13:05] <zxd> are you fscking kidding me ?? shiretoko web browser ??? and then they wonder why geeks get alienated
[13:06]  * nathan7 loves FF 3.7
[13:06] <nathan7> zxd: That's firefox 3.5.
[13:06] <zxd> YE!
[13:06] <nathan7> zxd: Shiretoko also is some place in Japan.
[13:06] <nathan7> It's beatiful
[13:06] <podman99> can i delete all partitions from command line without going through the whole process of the fdisk menu?
[13:06] <userone> anyone know how to 'force' ubuntu to charge a laptop battery? the battery indicator says 100% charge but /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state says 0. Its a Li Ion battery and I read online that it can be 'regenerated' by a forced charge
[13:06] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : After I finish my doing my sales system manual, maybe I can upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04
[13:06] <eni23> ’╗┐imho is shiretoko more stable than the one from the mozilla-site
[13:07] <GobiTheGoblin> nathan7: I had to switch because the 9.04old kernel had heat problems with me...
[13:07] <nathan7> eni23: No.
[13:07] <zxd> it's like japanise ver of firefox ?  like   Gnes in japan
[13:07] <nathan7> No.
[13:07] <nathan7> It's just because it's awesome
[13:07] <indus> eni23: i dont think so
[13:07] <zxd> imported webrosers won't work on my browser
[13:07] <nathan7> Just like the place in japan.
[13:07] <zxd> I need an emulator
[13:07] <nathan7> zxd: It's f*cking firefox, just with a diff name.
[13:07] <indus> eni23: the developers of the browser should be a step ahead with stuff
[13:07] <nathan7> It was prerelease
[13:08] <zxd> nathan7, why put the pre release btw
[13:08] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: remember to backup everything important =)
[13:08] <zxd> nathan7, not the final, because it's the same?
[13:08] <nathan7> Because people want the latest stuff.
[13:08] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : Yep, I know
[13:08] <nathan7> zxd: The final wasn't there yet.
[13:08] <dos|equis> GobiTheGoblin : But I never ever tried making a back up for my files
[13:08] <nathan7> Prerelease is *BEFORE* the release.
[13:08] <nathan7> Before the final.
[13:08] <eni23> ’╗┐nathan7: 3.5.3 crashes less than firefox 3.5.3. and in ’╗┐shiretoko there are feautures, not enabled in ff 3.5 (eg. -moz-opacity: (worsk with 2.0, 3.0 but not with 3.5))
[13:09]  * nathan7 is using Firefox(ahem, minefield) 3.7
[13:09] <zxd> indeed was wondering if this was a case of a pre-release that was the same as the final only a change name done before the release
[13:09] <nathan7> No.
[13:09] <nathan7> They use diff names for the prereleases to protect the reputation of Firefox.
[13:09] <indus> nathan7: when will minefield be out? is it any good?
[13:09] <dos|equis> Could someone teach to how to disable the graphical log.in screen?
[13:10] <alin_badila> gdm?
[13:10] <indus> dos|equis: go to system>admin>login window
[13:10] <sander> ActionParsnip: sudo dpkg --install --force-all python2.6_2.6.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:10] <indus> dos|equis: auto login
[13:10] <GobiTheGoblin> dos|equis: burn to cd/dvd if there is a small amount 1-4GB x 2 ... bigger backups need practically a external hdd
[13:10] <dwatkins> disable it, or just get to the text console, dos|equis?
[13:10] <eni23> ’╗┐nathan7: minefield is only a developer-release
[13:10] <sander> ActionParsnip: results in: /var/lib/dpkg/info/python2.6.postinst: 11: python2.6: not found
[13:10] <DJones> !shiretoko | zxd
[13:10] <eni23> eehm i mean ’╗┐indus:
[13:12] <dankobum> I have a problem with media player Totem with Ubuntu 9.04, Totem version 2.26.1, I cannot enable the repeat mode, I want my mp3 file to repeated endless
[13:12] <podman99> can i get ubuntu to mark bad sectors of a disk
[13:13] <dankobum> repeat mode does not work, he only plays once
[13:13] <nathan7> indus: Minefield will never be 'out'
[13:13] <nathan7> indus: It's the name for the prerelease versions.
[13:13] <indus> nathan7: why not?
[13:13] <nathan7> indus: Prerelease name
[13:14] <zxd> what's the url with jaunty updates
[13:14] <indus> nathan7: ya so what i mean is , firefox next version
[13:14] <zxd> I think newer ver of firefox is there
[13:14] <nathan7> indus: No idea.
[13:14] <nathan7> zxd: 3.5 is the latest stable.
[13:14]  * nathan7 is using 3.7
[13:14] <zxd> but I have this pre release
[13:14] <indus> nathan7: any differences between this and ff release version
[13:14] <zxd> shiretoko
[13:15] <ideasman_42> Is there any way to ignore the return value of a pre-removal script?
[13:15] <zxd> jaunty-security/  ?
[13:15] <zxd> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/universe  ?
[13:15] <Spike1506> What is ubuntu's translation irc channel?
[13:15] <ideasman_42> I tried everything to remove/reinstall/purge flashplugin-nonfree - its being a lot of trouble
[13:15] <nathan7> Spike1506: Translation?
[13:16] <Spike1506> for translators
[13:16] <nathan7> Hmm
[13:16] <ideasman_42> the new package's script returns an error so I cant do anything
[13:16] <ideasman_42> Id be happy if I could totally clear flash off but it complains the state is invalid.
[13:16] <indus> Spike1506: ubuntu-translators
[13:17] <Spike1506> ty
[13:17] <zxd> 	firefox-3.5-branding_3.5.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1_i386.deb
[13:17] <nemesis1911> hey guys how do I get my iphone to work with ubuntu? anyone???
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | nemesis1911
[13:18] <nemesis1911> kewl thx
[13:18] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, have X11 running now - this is the full error
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> sander: i dont know what to suggest, log a bug
[13:18] <ideasman_42> http://pastebin.com/m58de2ebd
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: oh did you have some issues with x11
[13:19] <theclaw> hi
[13:19] <ideasman_42> it wasnt starting but I think because the package state on the PC is so bad
[13:19] <bullgard> If I try to fetch my emails via POP3 and Evolution and press the 'Send/Receive' button, Evolution reports "Error while Fetching Mail." But on the same computer this works using Thunderbird. How to troubleshoot? I checked the settings in Evolution > Edit > Preferences > Mail Account > Edit > Account Editor.
[13:19] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, but I ran xinit and got a terminal + firefox
[13:19] <podman99> hey alll... odd question.. slightly off topic... what is the prefered HDD brand (idealy recognised best)
[13:19] <theclaw> when ubuntu gets updated, do all previously installed packages get reinstalled? I have the feeling that after each update, some packages are missing
[13:19] <whateversam> podman99, Western Digital
[13:19] <dankobum> HDD: Samsung
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: i'd try a force install of the deb
[13:20] <tehbaut> is there any linux compatible screenshot app that can handle scrolling long pages/scroll-regions?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> theclaw:  from one release to the next.. yes. Most everything will get updated and thus reinstalled..
[13:20] <podman99> dankobum: HD103UJ SUCK... truying to move aray from that
[13:20] <theclaw> Dr_Willis: hmm.. okay
[13:20] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, dpkg -i --force-all flashplugin-nonfree*****blah.deb ?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> theclaw:  occasionaly there are some packages that get obsoleted. I cant think of any off hand.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: put --force-all first
[13:21] <indus> what is being forced
[13:21] <darkham> please people, i would mod an ubuntu live, to run nvidia 96 driver
[13:21] <theclaw> Dr_Willis: okay - I was pretty sure that was the case, though. whatever
[13:21] <darkham> how can i mod it?
[13:21] <whateversam> podman99, I have NEVER had a Western Digital fail on me for any reason other than abuse.  (such as being dropped form 4ft or more)
[13:22] <aethelrick> tehbaut: http://www.myeasycopy.com/prod/ec/capture.html
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> podman99: i dont like WD drives either
[13:22] <dabukalam> hi all, i had a hard disk mounted on /media/AK-S1 but the share was giving me problems, so i did a sudo chown -R user /media/disk and now the disk no longer shows. how can i get it back?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: sudo umount /media/disk
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: then remount
[13:22] <indus> dabukalam: maybe remount it
[13:22] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, http://pasteall.org/7952
[13:23] <indus> ActionParsnip: check with command mount whether it is mounted first
[13:23] <indus> ActionParsnip: oops sorry
[13:23] <indus> dabukalam: check with mount command if its mounted
[13:23] <dabukalam> ActionParsnip: it's not even there. AK-S1 is no longer in the /media directory
[13:23] <zxd> what's the config option to hold packages in apt.conf
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: if you run mount on its own as indus said, you can check if its mounted
[13:24] <tehbaut> thanks aethelrick
[13:24] <ideasman_42> any other ways to force install then "dpkg  --force-all -i ./cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_10.0.32.18ubuntu1_i386.deb"
[13:24] <aethelrick> tehbaut: it doesn't look like free software, but it looks like it will do the job
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: you need to work out a way to hack out any login in the remove / install process so it just removes the package
[13:24] <indus> ideasman_42: forcing a 386 package on 64 bit?
[13:24] <dabukalam> ActionParsnip: it's not
[13:24] <pbn> Hi, I'm trying to (re)configure the locales on some Ubuntu machine. On Debian GNU/Linux "dpkg-reconfigure locales" brings me a dialog that allows me to choose which locales are generated, but on Ubuntu "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't bring me that dialog. How can I (re)configure the locales ?
[13:25] <ideasman_42> indus, no, all 32bit
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: then thats why you dont have access to the partition
[13:25] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, can the scripts return value be ignored?
[13:25] <dabukalam> ActionParsnip: but it won't let me mount it
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: you could change te script to return a good value
[13:25] <ideasman_42> but that means extracting the deb and repackaging it?
[13:25] <tehbaut> aethelrick: not a problem, if it works it's worth it... I'll do some testing on the demo
[13:26] <cheater> nathan7: interesting. is there a way for me to have multiple key bindings that will all start up in different dirs?
[13:26] <nathan7> cheater: Hmm, I guess so.
[13:26] <sander> ActionParsnip: i have restored my python2.6... the binary was in the python2.6-minimal deb package.... thanks for helping me out!
[13:26] <nathan7> cheater: You could have it run sh -c "cd /some/directory/&&exec gnome-terminal"
[13:27] <ideasman_42> ack. cant there be a way to make ubuntu forget about a package?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> sander: NP BRO, GLAD YOU GOT THE GOLD :)
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> sorry for caps
[13:27] <ideasman_42> or ignore that its in an invalid state?
[13:27] <ideasman_42> so other packages can upgrade
[13:27] <rsfs> do you guys know which editor would be a good editor to be extended, modified for special needs of hardware development?
[13:27] <sander> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU :)
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> rsfs:  emacs is so extendable.. its almost its own OS.
[13:27] <ideasman_42> I rather not fight with packages esp if I only want to remove them
[13:28] <indus> under what circumstances would a package need to be forced?
[13:28] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: but is lisp worth the effort?
[13:28] <ideasman_42> I need a --purge-i-dont-care-if-the-system-has-some-files-left option :S
[13:28] <indus> ideasman_42: man dpkg
[13:28] <ideasman_42> indus, I read it
[13:28] <dabukalam> ActionParsnip: when i try to mount it it gives me - wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1; missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[13:29] <indus> ideasman_42: man apt
[13:29] <ideasman_42> removal needs to be forced because scripts fail
[13:29] <ideasman_42> and there is no way to remove a package if its script fails
[13:29] <ideasman_42> (from what I can tell)
[13:29] <cheater> nathan7: ahh
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> rsfs:  thats up for you to decide.
[13:29] <ideasman_42> aside from replacing with a non-failing script... hrm. would rather not do that
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> dabukalam: try using -t <fs type>
[13:30] <len_> hi I used exit on tty1 how do I restart it?
[13:30] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: sure, I was just trying to ask how difficult to use is it
[13:30] <cheater> nathan7: thanks a lot. you've been great help mate.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> rsfs:  no idea. I use VI for my needs. :)
[13:31] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: I tend to think it is right to pick emacs for that reason, on the other hand I wonder if there are no other editor using other languages for its extensions
[13:32] <rameshwor> hello... i've done ubuntu 8.10 dualboot with XP, and i am thinking to do it in vista.. is thereanything i need to be careful about or it's almost the same ??
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> rameshwor: same
[13:32] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: hehe, funny, I use VIM myself, for all my hardware development, but I need something better for architecture exploration
[13:32] <rameshwor> ok.
[13:32] <nathan7> Vim pwns
[13:32] <cobaltss> has anyone had an issue with the iso they downloaded from ubuntu.com?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> rsfs:  it all depends on exactly what you are doing. I guess..
[13:32] <ideasman_42> where does apt keep its package info? - Id like to go in with a hex editor!
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> cobaltss: not if you md5 check the iso
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> cobaltss: checks it has downloaded cleanly
[13:33] <hdon> can i get some help getting /bin/rm to produce a french error message?
[13:33] <cobaltss> yyyeaaa.... im doing it from windows, i dont know how to do that yet lol
[13:33] <indus> ActionParsnip: : its possible to have corrupt iso at source? Maybe report it then i guess
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | cobaltss
[13:33] <nathan7> hdon: why french?
[13:33] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: I have been using VIM and I feel good editing with it, but when I have to manage many files and understand others projects I have difficulties following variables and function calls with editor only
[13:34] <rsfs> Dr_Willis: I didn't yet make the effort of learning how to use ctags for example
[13:34] <cobaltss> gotcha, thanks, ill check that out
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: if there is noise on the line at some point in transmission it cna arbage the data. It jut needs redownloading
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> indus: its nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:34] <hdon> nathan7: or any language, but i specifically tried installing language-pack-fr-base
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> rsfs:  vim very likely has features youve never disovered yet. :) I dont code much. So i only use 1% of vim's features
[13:34] <indus> ActionParsnip: what if the build itself is faulty? i guess we would come to know as many would be downloading it
[13:34] <nathan7> hdon: dpkg-reconfigure locales I think
[13:35] <indus> cobaltss: did u md5 sum the downloaded iso
[13:35] <cobaltss> nope, ill do that when i get home tonight
[13:35] <hdon> nathan7: well, i am trying to learn about gettext internals, so i'd like to know how to set the right environment variables myself to get rm to produce a translated error message
[13:35] <cobaltss> doing the ubuntu Check CD option tells me i have a corrupt file
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> indus: if the md5 passes ok then the cd is as it should be, the build will only be faulty if its a daily build or karmic. the release cd of jaunty is fine
[13:35] <iamleneko> hey  i have this problem : "rm -f *" and it ouputs this : "bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long" ????
[13:35] <cobaltss> i downloaded the iso 2 different times and both copies fail on install
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> cobaltss: then redownload the iso and md5 check to test
[13:35] <rsfs> I stumbled across a new development of an editor called Editra today, which is python coded, and has plugin support but I don't know how well is their API
[13:36] <indus> ActionParsnip: hmm ya true
[13:36] <indus> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> cobaltss: also burn as slowly as you can
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  try 'echo *' to see exactly what matches.. there is a fixed limit to the legenth of a command line.. Your command is going over that.
[13:36] <cobaltss> 8x :/
[13:36] <iamleneko> Dr_Willis, yes probably
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  either use rm a* or somthing to do it in 'batches' or use the xargs command  (and no i dont rember how off hand to use xargs)
[13:36] <indus> cobaltss: ya 8x is good enough but you might want to be careful and do a 4x burn :)
[13:36] <iamleneko> Dr_Willis, but how i can delete all content of this folder ?
[13:36] <cobaltss> yeah, ill burna  new copy at 4x and md5 it later on tonight
[13:36] <hdon> cobaltss: did you verify the image manually after download before burning?
[13:37] <cobaltss> thanks so much for the help :D
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> np
[13:37] <len_> hi I used exit on tty1 how do I restart it?
[13:37] <indus> cobaltss: use usb for boot :) its cool
[13:37] <nathan7> len_: It should automatically.
[13:37] <indus> cobaltss: i stopped burning cd's now heh
[13:37] <len_> hi I used exit on tty1 and now is not asking for login how do I restart it?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  either use rm a* or somthing to do it in 'batches' or use the xargs command  (and no i dont rember how off hand to use xargs)
[13:37] <len_> nathan7: well is not asking for login
[13:37] <nathan7> len_: Strange.
[13:37] <Prior> Could someone tell me what the sidebar is in this screenshot? http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/80431-1.jpg
[13:37] <iamleneko> ah oke
[13:37] <iamleneko> strange issue
[13:38] <len_> :(
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  the xargs man pages have examples of deleting things
[13:38] <len_> gonna reboot machine then
[13:38] <indus> does anyone know how to encript a folder? like in winzip we can
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  its not strange at all. the thing to rember is the SHELL expands the wildcards and sends them to the  actual command
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> Prior: there is no sidebar there just a themed window
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> iamleneko:  thats why 'echo *' works as a 'test'
[13:38] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, woohoo this worked http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/251
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> indus: http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/19604-create-pw-protect-tar-files.html
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: nice :)
[13:39] <Prior> ActionParsnip, Ah ok. Would you happen to know what application it is then?
[13:39] <indus> ActionParsnip: gui tool i mean
[13:39] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, I didnt know you could edit the script outside the deb
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: not sure on that. i use cli nearly all the time
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> ideasman_42: you can extract the deb i guess
[13:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: i dont understaqnd why we cant right clic kand do it yet
[13:40] <demo> Hi
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> 'mc' Might be able to 'open' thje .deb and let you edit things.. :) it can do it for many archive formats
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: write a service menu for it
[13:40] <Branko2> hi all
[13:40] <ideasman_42> ActionParsnip, yeah. I knew it was possible, but seemed too much effort to contrive a package just for removal
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: you can you just havnt found or made it
[13:41] <ideasman_42> if it takes too much work I could also re-install
[13:41] <Branko2> i have issue with users deletion
[13:41] <demo> http://i30.tinypic.com/eum39k.jpg
[13:41] <Branko2> can someone help please?
[13:41] <demo> there is a clone on the flash disk
[13:41] <demo> how can i erase it
[13:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: yeah ! JUST found encript
[13:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: wow cool
[13:42] <indus> its there when u right click
[13:42] <indus> wonder how i missed that, like persistence of vision, vision seems to be stuck on dapper drake
[13:42] <ideasman_42> this should teach me for upgrading for hardy to karmic
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: like i said, you can, you just hadnt found it
[13:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: yeah well said
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> Hmm cool. I can use 'mc' and 'enter' a .deb file and edit/view the files in it - without extracting them :)
[13:43] <Branko2> well, i will state my issue so if anyone have any idea, i will be grateful...
[13:43] <indus> ideasman_42: you having karmic issues? wrong channel this is,
[13:43] <indus> Branko2: yes please do so
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | ideasman_42
[13:44] <demo> any one can help me
[13:44] <demo> http://i30.tinypic.com/eum39k.jpg
[13:44] <demo> my flash disk is protected
[13:45] <ideasman_42> ubottu, yep, I know the risks :)
[13:45] <ideasman_42> luckily I leave just after Karmic comes out
[13:45] <demo> but there is no slide in the stick
[13:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: thats ssh pgp etc
[13:45] <Pici> ideasman_42: The point was that support and discussion is in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu
[13:46] <indus> ActionParsnip: simple passwords does it do?
[13:46] <arikbarnes> hi everyone
[13:46] <arikbarnes> i'm new and need some help
[13:46] <ideasman_42> Pici, but, but my question wasnt really related to karmic either
[13:46] <Branko2> first of all i have created new user in user settings, then i deleted that same user again from user setting window, but there was note telling that i can't delete that user files... (that is ok i manage to delete those with admin nautilus) but, after that, when i tried to create new user with same name, there was message like "user with same name already exist". I searched on forums and find option to delete user with "sudo userdel -r <username>" which work
[13:46] <Branko2> is there any way to completely delete user after deletion in user settings so i can again create user with that same name?
[13:46] <indus> Branko2: your message is not complete
[13:46] <Pici> !ask | arikbarnes
[13:47] <Branko2> hm
[13:47] <indus> Branko2: try easy way , go to users and groups  and do it from there
[13:47] <Branko2> maybe there is too many letters...
[13:47] <indus> Branko2: :)
[13:47] <Pici> Branko2: you were cut-off at which wor...
[13:47] <glickity> yay i found out how to get google earth working on my ubuntu eeepc
[13:47] <indus> Branko2:maybe didnt copy paste whole message?
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> glickity:  :) i just install it from the medibuntu repositories - i think.
[13:47] <Branko2> which worked great with deleting user which i wasn't deleted from user setting window...
[13:48] <indus> Branko2: yes sudo userdel works fine
[13:48] <zxd> what is jaunty-updates
[13:48] <zxd> is it stable?
[13:48] <zxd> or packages for next release of ubuntu?
[13:48] <Branko2> indus: yes but only if i don't do anything in users and groups
[13:48] <glickity> no i mean it used to be reaaaal slow
[13:49] <indus> Branko2: if the user is still logged in, it wont delete user
[13:49] <Branko2> unfortunately i didn't know that at the time... :)
[13:49] <glickity> but then i turned off atmosphere and its usable now
[13:49] <indus> Branko2: u can use -f flag to do so
[13:49] <Branko2> -f flag <username> ?
[13:49] <arikbarnes> thank you guys. just tryed to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10  it took all day but something is wrong it is loading the system but when it's getting to the desktop it's only show my the backgroung color and the mouse and that's it... what can i do?
[13:49] <akempgenImGAY> Hey
[13:49] <akempgenImGAY> just to let you all know im gay
[13:49] <akempgenImGAY> :(
[13:50] <LjL> akempgenImGAY: wrong channel
[13:50] <akempgenImGAY> everyone was makign fun of me
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> arikbarnes:  reinstall the old system.. or check in #ubuntu+1
[13:50] <akempgenImGAY> so i had to tell all
[13:50] <indus> Branko2: sorry i didnt understand question correct, but sudo userdel -f <username> wil ldelete user if he is logged in too
[13:50] <Branko2> ok, i will try now
[13:50] <akempgenImGAY> If any gay people in here please PM my other account akempgen
[13:50] <arikbarnes> can i install it without deleting my data? that's was the point in upgrading without the c.d
[13:50] <Branko2> indus: sorry, won't do... :(
[13:51] <Branko2> it says, user <username> dont exist
[13:51] <Branko2> does not exist
[13:51] <indus> Branko2: i mean you should write name of user in <>
[13:51] <Branko2> but when i try to create user with that name, it says that user already exist???
[13:51] <arikbarnes> i ment reinstall
[13:51] <Branko2> yes i know that much indus :)
[13:51] <indus> Branko2: oh ,,,, sorry :P
[13:52] <mitnick1> keep spirit, don't give up
[13:52] <indus> Branko2: i thought so
[13:52] <Branko2> :)
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> arikbarnes:  upgrading to 'alpha' software is risky...  You could boot a live cd.. backup your data..,  then reinstall i guess.. of if you got /home/ on its own partition set it up and DONT format /home/
[13:52] <Branko2> so any idea?
[13:52] <zxd> ?
[13:52] <indus> Branko2: tell me how did u create the user?
[13:52] <indus> Branko2: adduser or useradd command?
[13:52] <Branko2> from user settings window
[13:52] <Branko2> not with command, in user interface
[13:52] <indus> Branko2: so when you check in user settings, does that username still show there?
[13:53] <len_> Hi, when some1 write a file it set the group and user name to the last user who wrote in the file, how do Keep original group after a write using samba?
[13:53] <Branko2> Control Center > Users and Groups
[13:53] <zxd> help
[13:53] <Branko2> indus: no it isn't
[13:53] <arikbarnes> thanks doctor.
[13:53] <zxd> is jaunty-updates part of jaunty stable release?
[13:53] <indus> Branko2: hmm i think force remove username first
[13:54] <Branko2> how to do that?
[13:54] <indus> Branko2: sudo userdel -f -r <name>
[13:54] <Branko2> indus: OK, i am trying now...
[13:54] <indus> Branko2: then do a cd /home  and ls
[13:55] <Branko2> branko@branko-laptop:~$ sudo userdel -f -r proba
[13:55] <Branko2> userdel: user proba does not exist
[13:55] <Branko2> same thing indus... :(
[13:55] <indus> Branko2: cd /home then type ls what u see there
[13:55] <Branko2> but when i try to make new
[13:56] <Branko2> ther is two directories there
[13:56] <Branko2> in cd /home
[13:56] <indus> Branko2: whhich ones
[13:56] <dabukalam> ActionParsnip: Okay I figured out, an eSATA drive basically replaced sde on reboot, which became sdf... okay thanks
[13:56] <Branko2> for my account and that arguable one
[13:56] <indus> Branko2: :) arguable one :)
[13:56] <Branko2> there was another account
[13:57] <indus> Branko2: you mean u see urs and proba directories?
[13:57] <dabukalam> If I issue a command to copy something or do something on my server over SSH, then I close the SSH terminal, will the server continue to run the command?
[13:57] <Branko2> but i have delete those files with nautilus
[13:57] <Branko2> yes
[13:57] <indus> Branko2: you have?
[13:57] <Branko2> yes, i find option to sign in to nautilus as adim
[13:57] <indus> Branko2: delete from commadn line
[13:57] <Branko2> admin
[13:58] <indus> Branko2: rm -r proba
[13:58] <Branko2> indus: i loged in "gksu nautilus"
[13:58] <indus> Branko2:ya nautlius sucks at such things
[13:58] <warriorforgod> dabukalam: Unless you are using screen, the answer is no.
[13:58] <indus> Branko2: wont delete stuff sometimes
[13:58] <indus> Branko2: afraid of the terminal ? :)
[13:58] <Pici> dabukalam: Or using something like: nohup yourcommand &
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: descend into write-protected directory `proba'? y
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: remove write-protected regular file `proba/.bash_logout'? y
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: cannot remove `proba/.bash_logout': Permission denied
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: remove write-protected regular file `proba/.bashrc'? y
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: cannot remove `proba/.bashrc': Permission denied
[13:59] <FloodBot2> Branko2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <Branko2> rm: remove write-protected regular file `proba/.profile'?
[13:59] <Branko2> ok, i will not flood, sorry.. :)
[13:59] <indus> Branko2: i hope u dont need anything in that folder
[13:59] <Branko2> no, i don't
[13:59] <indus> Branko2: sure remove it
[14:00] <dabukalam> warriorforgod: screen?
[14:00] <Branko2> but it's still there...
[14:00] <Branko2> :(
[14:00] <zxd> it's still called shiretoko firefox 3.5.2 final in ubuntu
[14:00] <dabukalam> Pici: nohup?
[14:00] <warriorforgod> !screen > dabukalam
[14:00] <Branko2> indus: rm: cannot remove `proba/.bashrc': Permission denied
[14:00] <Branko2> rm: remove write-protected regular file `proba/.profile'?
[14:00] <indus> Branko2: hmm sudo rm -r proba
[14:01] <Branko2> only way i can remove that folder is when i log in to nautilus as admin with "gksu nautilus"
[14:01] <indus> Branko2: extremely careful when using rm with ssudo btw
[14:01] <Branko2> but that don't solve my issue...
[14:01] <Branko2> ok
[14:01] <indus> Branko2: but you said you already tried that
[14:01] <indus> Branko2: try this command i gave you
[14:01] <dabukalam> warriorforgod: yeah, but if i turn the computer running screen off, will the service end?
[14:01] <Branko2> no, i can remove folder for that user, but can't recreate user with same name...
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> Branko2:  its a bad idea to run the gnome file manager as root.. You can end up with files that are owned by root in your users home dir.
[14:02] <indus> Branko2: so you mean there is no folder called proba there under /home?
[14:02] <Branko2> Dr_Willis: thanks, i'll remember that..
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Branko2:  if i need to use a 'file manager' as root.. i tend to use 'mc' :) its a handy tool to learn about.
[14:02] <indus> Branko2: yes Dr_Willis is right, always use terminal for such things
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Branko2:  'sudo mc' in a terminal.. do the work.. close it..
[14:02] <anshumani> mc???
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> anshumani:  yes.. thats the name of the tool :)
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> !info mc
[14:03] <anshumani> do i do apt-get install mc to install it?
[14:03] <indus> Branko2: restart system then try, always works
[14:03] <Branko2> indus: great, ther is no folder now!
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> anshumani:  try typing 'mc' and see what it says. :)
[14:03] <Branko2> that last command seems to worked
[14:03] <Branko2> :)
[14:03] <Pici> dabukalam: No, screen will continue to run, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen for more info
[14:03] <anshumani> command not found
[14:03] <anshumani> i don't have it
[14:03] <Branko2> now i will try to recreate user with same name
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> anshumani:  and yes. thats the package name it should of sayd. 'to install ..... use..'
[14:03] <indus> Branko2: sudo always works doesnt it Dr_Willis :)
[14:03] <boldii> hi
[14:03] <warriorforgod> dabukalam: You would start screen after logging into the server via ssh.  As long as you don't turn the server off you will not lose the connection, and can re-attach the screen session.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> indus:  it better. :)
[14:03] <anshumani> lemme try it
[14:03] <mijap> hi there - i have a printserver here --> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/UK/en/products/WPSM54G and it's not compatible to my jaunty (just windoze is supported) now i wonder is there a way to fix this? anyone out who can help me?
[14:03] <boldii> can anyone tell me how to mount a mac os filesystem rw under linux?
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> !hfs
[14:04] <indus> Branko2: now create the user whichever way you prefer gui or command line
[14:04] <tigriukas> anyone can help me with my monitor?
[14:04] <dabukalam> warriorforgod: similar to ssh -X?
[14:04] <Branko2> i will try gui
[14:04] <indus> Branko2: but users and groups is a nice tool for that
[14:04] <indus> Branko2: what must happen is, some of the files in users space might be in use by system, so cant be deleted, like bashrc
[14:04] <Branko2> indus:yes, i am using users and groups
[14:04] <warriorforgod> dabukalam: You would log into the server via ssh and after logging in, with that session run screen on the server.
[14:05] <indus> i have to go now
[14:05] <indus> Branko2: did u create user ?
[14:05] <dabukalam> dabukalam: ah okaay.
[14:05] <Branko2> indus: ... :( again same thing happen... User name "proba" already exists
[14:05] <tigriukas> my moitor is unknown what to do?
[14:05] <indus> Branko2: restart the system
[14:05] <Branko2> Please select a different user name.
[14:05] <dabukalam> warriorforgod: ah okaaay (lol)
[14:05] <Branko2> ok...
[14:05] <Branko2> i will be back shortly...
[14:05] <indus> ill be baack in 15 min or someone will help u
[14:06] <dabukalam> Pici: what about nohup? what's that?
[14:06] <indus> *you
[14:06] <Branko2> and by the way, thanks very much for time and help indus
[14:06] <Branko2> :)
[14:06] <indus> Branko2: always welcome :)
[14:06] <indus> bye for now
[14:06] <tigriukas> where to find help?
[14:06] <tigriukas> ubuntu cant see monitor
[14:06] <UBestB> I got a command I want to run at startup, however I don't understand how to write the script for /etc/init.d
[14:07] <Pici> dabukalam: nohup is a command that tells the executable its running to not listen to HUP signals (which are sent when you close its parent process, i.e, the terminal process that spawned it)
[14:07] <LjL> UBestB: there is a bare-bones examples in /etc/init.d/skeleton
[14:07] <Lirc_User> full house huh? anyway a friend at work says he can't log in anymore on a dell mini 9 running ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I got into single user mode and reset the password. Now upon bootup I log in and the screen freezes
[14:07] <LjL> UBestB: for simple things to just run at boot, you can also use /etc/rc.local
[14:08] <Lirc_User> the cursor and mousepad are both functional only during the login screen but not on the desktop
[14:08] <UBestB> LjL: I looked at skeleton, but it doesn't look as easy as just typing a command at the bash prompt
[14:09] <UBestB> I don't have rc.local
[14:09] <Lirc_User> I really thought this would be a 2 minute job, but I want to play with my SheevaPlug that finally came, but i'm stuck doing this
[14:09] <LjL> UBestB: you can create it no problem
[14:09] <|^oCiO^|> Hi
[14:09] <alokito> is there a usplash theme changer other than startupmanager?
[14:09] <LjL> UBestB: just make sure you put #!/bin/sh in the first line
[14:10] <UBestB> ok, do I need to use sudo as well or can that be ignored?
[14:10] <Branko1> indus: i restarted comp., but issue still persist... :(
[14:10] <UBestB> I mean, sudo as the command inside rc.local
[14:10] <Branko1> User name "proba" already exists
[14:11] <Branko1> but i can't find that user no i can delete it...
[14:11] <alokito> startupmanager only supports .so files, but I want to apply some usplash I downloaded from kde-look.org
[14:11] <dabukalam> Pici: alright nohup isn't working. I put nohup ssh -X blahblahblahserver vlc and ran an audio file, and when i close vlc it stops playing
[14:11] <Pici> UBestB: There is no need to specify 'sudo' to run the command inside of rc.local
[14:12] <UBestB> ok, will test it out, thanks
[14:12] <Pici> dabukalam: How would it continue to play if you closed vlc?
[14:13] <dabukalam> Pici: I want to be able to end the session, stop seeing vlc on my computer, but for vlc to continue to run on the server
[14:13] <sunshinepants> is there a way to "close to tray" for rhythmbox's native notification icon
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> !info alltray
[14:14] <BlackFate> sunshinepants, there is plugin in rhythmbox
[14:14] <qetuR> jag har svininfluensan! :O
[14:14] <ltcabral> how do i replace metacity to emerald?
[14:15] <BlackFate> ltcabral, emerald --replace
[14:15] <qetuR> ltcabral, want to make it default?
[14:15] <BlackFate> ltcabral, first Alt + f2
[14:15] <Pici> dabukalam: You don't want to nohup the ssh command, nohup the vlc command: ssh -X servername <enter> nohup vlc filename & <enter>
[14:15] <ltcabral> qetuR, yes
[14:15] <Pici> dabukalam: Then you can disconnect ssh and it will continue to run
[14:16] <Recursive> I'm installing Xubuntu on my friend's laptop; it needs to resize the Windows partition, and its progress has stayed at 0% for like 10 minutes; should I kill it and try again.
[14:16] <ltcabral> qetuR: i did it once but after i restarted it went back
[14:16] <qetuR> ltcabral, yeah
[14:17] <qetuR> you need compiz-settings-manager
[14:17] <Circular> morning/evening/noon/nigt everybody
[14:17] <alokito> Recursive: some old laptop has problem acpi
[14:17] <alokito> press F6 at boot menu and select acpi=off
[14:17] <Recursive> It's a fairly new laptop
[14:17] <Recursive> P4
[14:18] <ltcabral> qetuR: i have that
[14:18] <Recursive> Is it OK to kill the partitioning process if it's at 0 %
[14:18] <DJones> Recursive: Is the disk light going on & off? It could be that its reading/writing but just not updating the screen, I'd be tempted to wait a while longer just in case its doing something in the background
[14:19] <Circular> excuse the noobish question, but i got an atheros wifi card and networkmanager cannot manage it. it happens when i upgrade the headers from .11 to .15 and happened again when i updated some libraries. any thoughts?
[14:19] <dos|equis> hello...
[14:19] <dos|equis> how can I allow my pidgin to connect without stopping the firestarter?
[14:19] <qetuR> ltcabral, ok, in there you need to write something
[14:19] <qetuR> hang on
[14:20] <qetuR> ltcabral, in swedish its called F├Čnsterram, which stands for windowframe or something
[14:20] <qetuR> look for that in compiz-settings-manager
[14:20] <anshumani> circular: is it a toshiba?
[14:20] <Circular> Compaq
[14:21] <qetuR> ltcabral, in there you have a line called commando or something like that, write what BlackFate wrote
[14:21] <anshumani> circular: did it work out of the box?
[14:21] <Circular> yes, 9.04 automatically configured it and worked like a charm
[14:21] <anshumani> circular: but it stopped after an upgrade?
[14:21] <Circular> yes, libraries mostly
[14:22] <Circular> it also always stopped after the headers upgrade from .11 to .15
[14:22] <Burning_aces> anyone here know anything about fixing audio?
[14:22] <anshumani> hmmm
[14:22] <mw44118> Is there a command-line tool to show memory used by a process?
[14:23] <Burning_aces> yes
[14:23] <Burning_aces> top
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> mw44118:  top/htop/ proberly others..
[14:23] <Burning_aces> mw44118: put in top
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> ps perhaps?
[14:23] <orgy> hi, i just installed ubuntu using wubi on a samsung n510. installing nvidia driver worked perfectly and so far im pretty satisfied, except that i can't change the brightness. /proc/acpi/video is empty and that one command with xrandr didn't work either. any ideas on that one?
[14:23] <anshumani> circular: try installing the backport modules. try $ sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty
[14:23] <Paschu> Hi guys
[14:23] <anshumani> circular: that contains the ath5k driver
[14:23] <Circular> yeah, i'd do that if i could connect to the internet to get the apt-get to work :(
[14:24] <Circular> but, ok, i'll download the backports
[14:24] <anshumani> oh shoot, don't you have a LAN cable?
[14:24] <Circular> no :\
[14:25] <Recursive> I got it working, it was actually working the whole time, the progress bar just didn't work
[14:25] <Recursive> Thanks peoples
[14:25] <Paschu> I have a problem with the flashplayer and my ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix. I installed it via sudo in terminal. The sound of a video on youtube works perfect, but i cant see anything. its like 3 pictures
[14:25] <akempgenImGAY>  akempgenImGAY suggests to  "hey lets play toss the H bomb"
[14:25] <akempgenImGAY>  says "SWEET!!!" tosses the H bomb to akempgenImGAY then tosses
[14:25] <akempgenImGAY> it back and misses on purpose and runs away from earth and watches
[14:25] <akempgenImGAY> it explode KABLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[14:25] <FloodBot2> akempgenImGAY: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <LjL> akempgenImGAY: aGAYn? quit it!
[14:25] <homebrewcider> Trying to install a program, got this message  when "make" <make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.> can someone please tell me what I did wrong? I followed the install instuctions
[14:26] <ooypp> ./configure first
[14:26] <anshumani> circular: in the future you should use the dummy meta package called linux-backports-modules-jaunty-generic
[14:26] <homebrewcider> did that
[14:26] <benh1> Branko1: What is the output of "grep proba /etc/passwd" in a console?
[14:26] <ooypp> you can you use ./configure --help for help
[14:26] <anshumani> that allows for auto upgrades
[14:26] <Jyxt> so i have this python script, in a folder...if i go to that folder and double click the script it runs
[14:27] <Jyxt> if i use the command line "python /loc/of/script" it runs
[14:27] <Circular> ok, will do, thanks :d
[14:27] <Jyxt> but making a launcher does not work any ideas?
[14:27] <anshumani> no worries :)
[14:27] <Branko1> benh1: do i have to specify username?
[14:27] <adhok_> Hi I need help, my Applications menu on the menu bar no longer contains anything, and going through system->main menu doesnt bring up the window.. this happened after installing the spim package from the synaptic package manager (MIPS32 simulator) and restarting my machine, any ideas? (already did a complete uninstall of the package and another reboot, didnt fix
[14:27] <Branko1> o, sorry...
[14:27] <Branko1> :)
[14:27] <Branko1> there is username...
[14:27] <Branko1> :)
[14:27] <FloodBot2> Branko1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <sipior> Jyxt: well, what are you using as the command issued by the launcher?
[14:27] <homebrewcider>  on previous line said <checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[14:27] <homebrewcider> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.> but I have no idea what to look for
[14:28] <anshumani> jyxt: you want to put in "#!/usr/bin/env python" as the first line of the script
[14:28] <Branko1> there is no output
[14:28] <theclaw> I want to disable that ALSA uses pulseaudio by default in 9.04, any clues?
[14:28] <Branko1> benh1: branko@branko-laptop:~$ grep proba /etc/passwd
[14:28] <Branko1> branko@branko-laptop:~$
[14:28] <benh1> That's odd. The users and groups program only shows users with UID numbers over 1000 so I thought that might be the issue, but if it's not in /etc/passwd then the user shouldn't really exist.
[14:28] <Jyxt> anshumani: thats already there
[14:29] <wild_oscar> hey, I have a doubt with swap/RAM  usage: I have a 4 GB RAM system which doesn't go beyond 1.5 GB of used RAM
[14:29] <wild_oscar> why do I have swap usage?
[14:29] <Guest78548> Hey everybody, I just installed Jaunty, and am having trouble with automatic login: I just get a black screen. Every time I have to change to console (alt+ctrl+f1) and stop and restart gdm. It then starts working. Has anybody seen something like this?
[14:29] <ooypp> that is ok
[14:29] <Branko1> benh1, yes, i can't find that user anywhere but when trying to recreate it, message says that user with same name already exist...
[14:29] <wild_oscar> shouldn't it use swap only when ram is low?
[14:29] <anshumani> guest: yes i used to have the same issue
[14:29] <hdon> wild_oscar: do you see paging occurring? or do you just see your virtual memory allocation is up?
[14:30] <Jyxt> anshumani: sipior if i do python script.py it works, but if i do python /loc/to/script.py i get errors about GladeXML object?
[14:30] <Jyxt> probably something to do with how this script was made?
[14:30] <anshumani> guest: do a console upgrade
[14:30] <crankharder> Having trouble starting apache: Invalid command 'php_value' -- despite php5.conf/load both linked into mods-enabled, ideas?
[14:30] <anshumani> jyxt: looks like it
[14:30] <hdon> wild_oscar: a lot of things will still reserve swap space, but the kernel's virtual memory manager probably won't page any data there until your RAM usage gets high
[14:30] <Guest78548> anshumani: do you mean apt-get upgrade?
[14:30] <anshumani> guest: yes, that's what i meant
[14:30] <sipior> Jyxt: even if you issue the latter command in the same directory as the script? can you pastebin the script for us?
[14:31] <adhok_> Hi I need help, my Applications menu on the menu bar no longer contains anything, and going through system->main menu doesnt bring up the window.. this happened after installing the spim package from the synaptic package manager (MIPS32 simulator) and restarting my machine, any ideas? (already did a complete uninstall of the package and another reboot, didnt fix)  I also have done update-menus in terminal to no avail
[14:31] <wild_oscar> hdon: how do I see paging?
[14:31] <dos|equis> Is it safe that I add rules to outbound traffic policy for port 5050 and 6667?
[14:31] <Guest78548> anshumani, I get '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.'
[14:31] <hdon> i have to go, bbl
[14:31] <Jyxt> sipior: its this http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyfa/
[14:31] <orgy> ok, so i somehow found a "hint" why i cant change the brightness on samsung n510, this is what the xorg log tells me http://nopaste.info/e576c66fe8.html , any ideas about that?
[14:32] <Jyxt> it works if i python launcher.py from within thte directory, but if i go one level up and do python dir/launcher.py i get that error abotu gladexml, now that im looking at it its definatly script related
[14:32] <anshumani> guest: do a "sudo apt-get update" first; that updates the package cache
[14:32] <wild_oscar> hdon: I do see that sometimes changing windows is slower, which I suspect might be due info being swapped instead of in ram
[14:32] <wild_oscar> (I suspect only because it is slower than it should be
[14:33] <sipior> Jyxt: what is the specific error?
[14:33] <hipitihop> I have a Point of View ION Atom 330 with a Realtek alc662 running 9.04 Mythbuntu and need tips to get sound working
[14:34] <Jyxt> sipior: (launch.py:7977): libglade-WARNING **: could not find glade file 'gui/main.glade
[14:34] <doktoreas> anyone knows if USB is an open standard?
[14:34] <darkham> more info in liks like  UserInterfaceFreeze or FeatureFreeze or ArtworkSecondDrop
[14:35] <Jyxt> sipior: followed by some other stuff...its not a big deal really, and its definatly the app itself
[14:35] <indus> Branko1, hi
[14:35] <Jyxt> i can contact the writer and ask him for solutino
[14:35] <Branko1> Hi indus!
[14:35] <Branko1> indus: no luck, still same thing...
[14:35] <indus> Branko1, so is your problem solved?
[14:35] <Branko1> :(
[14:36] <Branko1> no
[14:36] <Branko1> i am writing now on forum
[14:36] <benh1> Branko1: What about "grep proba /etc/group" - I don't use the "users and groups" tool much, so I'm not used to it.  Just noticed it says a user with that name exists even if there's just a group with the name.
[14:36] <ackbahr> Hi! Where's the "cp" file?
[14:36] <dabukalam> Pici: It's still not working
[14:36] <Guest78548> anshumani, thanx for the info, but my system seems to be completely up-to-date; do you know that this was an issue that was solved with an update?
[14:37] <Branko1> benh1: proba:x:1002:
[14:37] <anshumani> guest: yes, i had some old hardware, and i'd get the same error on a fresh jaunty install. but an upgrade to the latest solved this.
[14:37] <ackbahr> Found it, thanks!
[14:38] <indus> Branko1, tried adduser command?
[14:38] <Branko1> indus: no
[14:38] <benh1> That's probably it then.  Given the UID I'd say that group was created when the user was, but wasn't deleted.  Run "sudo delgroup proba" in a console (or you can probably delete it with the manage groups bit in the tool). Then you should be able to recreate the user.
[14:38] <crankharder> how can I force a reinsatll of all of my php5 stuff?
[14:38] <dos|equis> Is it safe to allow outbounds policy for port 5050 and 6667?
[14:39] <Branko1> behn1: THANKS!!
[14:39] <Branko1> :)
[14:39]  * benh1 does all user administration from the command line so isn't used to this new fangled gui stuff :)
[14:39] <Branko1> that's it!
[14:39] <Branko1> yes i will
[14:39] <aeonoris> Is there a command to tell how long/since when my system has been running
[14:39] <Branko1> thank you very much, and thank you indus!
[14:39] <indus> Branko1, benh1 is good advice
[14:39] <Pici> aeonoris: uptie
[14:39] <Thunderstorm> hello
[14:39] <indus> Branko1, try it
[14:39] <Pici> aeonoris: uptime rather
[14:39] <aeonoris> Pici, thanks
[14:40] <benh1> I think it behaves itself pretty well if you aren't trying to do anything too complicated.
[14:40] <Thunderstorm> when is the next ubuntu version coming out?
[14:40] <Branko1> indus, it's solved :)
[14:40] <benh1> Branko1: Glad I could help :)
[14:40] <indus> Branko1, lol good
[14:40] <andrey__> what does it mean: insmod: error inserting 'sn9c20x.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[14:40] <IdleOne> 29 october
[14:40] <DJones> Thunderstorm: October
[14:40] <anshumani> thunderstorm: october 23 i think
[14:40] <adhok_> Hi I need help, my Applications menu on the menu bar no longer contains anything, and going through system->main menu doesnt bring up the window.. this happened after installing the spim package from the synaptic package manager (MIPS32 simulator) and restarting my machine, any ideas? (already did a complete uninstall of the package and another reboot, didnt fix)  I also have done update-menus in terminal to no avail
[14:40] <Branko1> thanks again guys, you are great! :)
[14:40] <thecommutist> Thunderstorm: 29th Oct
[14:40] <indus> Branko1, because users and groups applies few more flags probably to useradd command add it in groups too i guess
[14:40] <andrey__> I;m trying t install builtin webcam in lenovo 3000 n100
[14:40] <aeonoris> Does uptime read a file?  If so, where's it located?
[14:40] <anshumani> 29 right
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> aeonoris:  perhaps some special place in /proc/
[14:41] <indus> andrey__, no need to install a webcam , generally its installed automatic,
[14:41] <indus> andrey__, can u paste the output of lsusb
[14:41] <thecommutist> has anyone tried the latest alpha of karmic?
[14:41] <indus> !paste | andrey__
[14:41] <Branko1> indus: i am not to proficient in ubuntu yet, but i guess you are right... :)
[14:41] <indus> Branko1, well me neither
[14:41] <Circular> still ain't working
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> thecommutist:  avoide it for a few days :)
[14:42] <Circular> did sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty and i'm still stuck with a "device not managed" under networkmanager
[14:42] <thecommutist> Dr_Willis: Alpha4 worked quite well on my machine!
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> thecommutist:   you have been warned.. :) A4 was working good for me.. untill 10 min ago....
[14:42] <thecommutist> Dr_Willis: boot time is blazingly fast
[14:43] <Pici> thecommutist : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[14:43] <anshumani> circular: did you restart your computer
[14:43] <thecommutist> Dr_Willis: what happened then?!
[14:43] <IdleOne> thecommutist: it broke :)
[14:43] <Circular> ofc i did
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> thecommutist:  i would  avoid +1  for a few days  at this time:)
[14:43] <thecommutist> Pici: thanks
[14:43] <thecommutist> IdleOne: that's sad!
[14:43] <Thunderstorm> thats good how is the version number called?
[14:43] <akempgenImGAY> Shut up
[14:43] <Thunderstorm> is there a nightbuilder already
[14:43] <akempgenImGAY> Shut up
[14:43] <anshumani> circular: there is some official ubuntu documentation for the atheros, let me try to find it for you
[14:43] <akempgenImGAY> Shut up
[14:44] <indus> Pici, that user is trouble, maybe extend ban more
[14:44] <retlaw> hello, does anyone know of any good math channel?
[14:44] <zil> Is there anyway to fake a DHCP/PXE request as I want to see what is being returned by the server?
[14:44] <Circular> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[14:44] <lyh> hello
[14:45] <anshumani> circular: i wrote this: http://anshoe-man.blogspot.com/2009/05/wifi-on-jaunty.html
[14:45] <ohletmeinnowjesu> hi guys, quick question:what is libqt?
[14:45] <kwork> hello, i have ubuntu on my hdd, now i accuired new pc with new hdd, so i want to transfer my old system to new box
[14:45] <adhok_> In answer to my own question about the applications menu not working after a package install. Deleting the applications.menu file under /home/<username>/.config/menus fixed the issue, in case anyone was wondering
[14:45] <anshumani> kwork: you should try dd
[14:46] <kwork> anshumani, new disk is bigger then old
[14:46] <kwork> anshumani,  not sure can i use dd if the disks arent identical in size
[14:46] <hipitihop> anyone know how to get jaunty to recognise a Realtek alc662 sound ?
[14:46] <anshumani> kwork: hmmm.......yeah
[14:47] <anshumani> kwork: at the worst, you'll have some free space left out right?
[14:47] <ohletmeinnowjesu> can anyone tell me what the "qt" package does?
[14:47] <kwork> anshumani, and then expand the partition ?
[14:47] <thecommutist> kwork: how about using "remastersys" or "reconstructor"
[14:47] <anshumani> kwork: you could give it a shot, and then try to create a new partition from your leftover free space
[14:47] <anshumani> kwork: yes that's possible
[14:48] <kwork> hmmmz ill look into the tools thecommutist suggested
[14:48] <anshumani> kwork: if it doesn't work, you lose nothing
[14:48] <kwork> otherwise tnx
[14:48] <kwork> just figured out i have one more option
[14:48] <kwork> move old drive to new box aswell
[14:48] <kwork> and use it as system and new drive as storage
[14:48] <sperman> mr┼Ī
[14:48] <anshumani> kwork: :)
[14:48] <sperman> ?
[14:49] <anshumani> kwork: but the new old box has no disk then?
[14:49] <sperman> who are u
[14:49] <thecommutist> kwork: will it recognise the new hardware then?
[14:49] <Branko1> odakle si spreman?
[14:49] <Branko1> tj. sperman
[14:49] <DJones> !ubuntu | sperman
[14:49] <sperman> iz hrv
[14:49] <kwork> thecommutist, cant be sure, but it should
[14:49] <Branko1> a za┼Īto govori┼Ī mr┼Ī?
[14:49] <kwork> anshumani, bot boxes ahve hdd at the moment
[14:49] <sperman> da vidim dali su to ljudi ili kompjutori
[14:49] <annemarie`> hey ho
[14:50] <Branko1> hehe, pa naravno da su ljudi
[14:50] <anshumani> kwork: if you move it, the old one will be left with no disk drive
[14:50] <Pici> !en
[14:50] <Branko1> ovo je kanal za ubuntu operativni sistem
[14:50] <Branko1> za pomo─ć i podr┼Īku
[14:50] <sperman> aha
[14:50] <kwork> anshumani, yeah thats thing
[14:50] <Branko1> i za englesko govorno podru─Źje
[14:50] <Branko1> tako da ve─ćina govori engleski
[14:50] <Branko1> i mr┼Ī im apsolutno ni┼Īta ne zna─Źi
[14:50] <Branko1> :)
[14:50] <sperman> mislio samo da je neka podr┼Īka za voice room iz xfire
[14:50] <thecommutist> kwork: this might sound radical, but how about booting the new pc off the network
[14:50] <Branko1> nije
[14:51] <kwork> thecommutist, in the long run ?
[14:51] <Branko1> za ubuntu
[14:51] <sperman> eh
[14:51] <annemarie`> how can i set the default terminal in gnome? i have once set it to bash when i press alt+f2 and then check terminal, but in the mainmenu my terminal app is gnome-terminal. now i want gnome-terminal under alt+f2 too
[14:51] <Branko1> www.ubuntu.com
[14:51] <Branko1> oti─æi pa pogledaj
[14:51] <Branko1> ako nisi upoznat
[14:51] <Circular> anshumani: everything was configured exactly like the guide says, but it still says "device not managed" even after i restart the network
[14:51] <steven__> Anyone know where I can download mfc42.dll ??  Looking for the Windows xp SP 2 version or whatever
[14:51] <sperman> zna┼Ī mo┼Šda koji program bi mi mogao zamijenit voice room u xfire
[14:51] <thecommutist> annemarie: gnome-terminal is a gui application
[14:51] <anshumani> circular: hold on, let me point you to some official docs
[14:52] <Pici> Branko1, sperman: This channel is english only, please see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat for channels in other languages.
[14:52] <Circular> is there a command to see wireless extensions on peripherals?
[14:52] <thecommutist> annemarie: you cannot run it on a virtual console
[14:52] <Branko1> Pici, i know, i have just explaining him that
[14:52] <Circular> i mean, i know there is, i just cannot remember what it was
[14:52] <Branko1> sorry
[14:53] <anshumani> circular: this was written for intrepid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[14:53] <annemarie`> i just want the default back thecommutist, @default when you check the terminal checkbox gnome-terminal gets executed
[14:53] <zamba> i have lots of these in my syslog:
[14:53] <zamba> Sep 17 15:53:07 thinny init: xvc0 main process (6604) terminated with status 1
[14:53] <zamba> Sep 17 15:53:07 thinny init: xvc0 main process ended, respawning
[14:53] <sperman> branko1 zna┼Ī mo┼Šda koji program bi mi mogao zamijenit voice room u xfire
[14:53] <Circular> ok, thanks, i'll look into it
[14:53] <zamba> sperman: english in here, please
[14:53] <annemarie`> atm just bash gets executed but not gnome-terminal
[14:53] <zil> Is there anyway to fake a DHCP/PXE request as I want to see what is being returned by the server?
[14:53] <sperman> sorry
[14:53] <steven__> Anyone know where I can download mfc42.dll ??  Looking for the Windows xp SP 2 version or whatever
[14:54] <thecommutist> annemarie`: you can't find gnome-terminal in the Applications > Accessories menu?
[14:54] <Pici> steven__: This is Ubuntu support, try ##windows
[14:54] <sperman> i have the english gramatic 0
[14:54] <Jordan> You can get it here
[14:54] <Jordan> http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?mfc42
[14:54] <steven__> This is to get something to work in Ubuntu...
[14:54] <annemarie`> thecommutist, sure
[14:54] <Pici> steven__: There are limits to what is on-topic here.
[14:54] <thecommutist> annemarie`: what happens when u click on it?
[14:54] <annemarie`> thecommutist , got it!
[14:55] <Branko1> sperman, ne
[14:56] <sylvano> evening all. Any one up for an FTP query
[14:56] <annemarie`> preferences -> preferred applications -> tools -> gnome-terminal
[14:56] <thecommutist> annemarie`: super!
[14:56] <annemarie`> this wass my problem, but now its solved, thanks anyway :)
[14:56] <thecommutist> annemarie`: welcome!
[14:59] <Circular> ok, let's hope the ulterior blacklist line will help
[15:02] <Circular> nothing, still doesn't work
[15:02] <Circular> what's the command for wireless extensions? sort of like lspci for wifi'
[15:03] <Pici> Circular: Do you mean iwconfig?
[15:03] <Circular> yep
[15:03] <Circular> now i know for sure that there is some problem with network manager
[15:03] <Circular> the card is on and running, but networkmanager cannot use it
[15:04] <Circular> any clue?
[15:04] <Ziber> With BIND, I have an allow-recursion block with my primary server's IP on my secondary, but I still cant dig @master, from the slave.
[15:04] <Michalxo> Circular, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[15:05] <Circular> wlan0     No scan results
[15:05] <Michalxo> Circular, are you on jaunty?
[15:05] <Branko1> bye all and thanks for help!
[15:05] <Circular> yes
[15:05] <Circular> it worked well until i upgraded something
[15:06] <Michalxo> well... I am not good at wifi/netowrking at all... I just know the basics :-(
[15:07] <Michalxo> Circular, but if wifi worked correctly, you should get scanned list of available essids
[15:07] <Circular> yeah, i know
[15:07] <Michalxo> Circular, wait for more knowledged people...
[15:07] <Michalxo> sorry
[15:07] <raphink> hi ther
[15:07] <Circular> i will, thanks
[15:07] <raphink> has anyone successfully used moonlight with photosynth.net ?
[15:09] <gnu_boy> hi i have just installed ubuntu 9.04 but i don't have sound...
[15:09] <jshultz> !sound gnu_boy
[15:09] <gnu_boy> !sound
[15:10] <uoobief> Uninstall Xubuntu9.04 , does it work ?
[15:10] <uoobief> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113630
[15:12] <SilentJonathan> when i try to use a custom startup .wav sound file it doesnt work, it doesnt play
[15:13] <gbrethen>  kernel: Inspecting /boot/System.map-2.6.28-15-generic
[15:13] <gbrethen>  kernel: Cannot find map file.
[15:13] <gbrethen> any ideas?
[15:14] <gbrethen> is this normal?
[15:14] <nasenbaer666> #evil
[15:14] <ubox> hullo! :)
[15:15] <thecommutist> SilentJonathan: the default one plays properly?
[15:15] <chindu> hey all - wondered if there's anyone around who might be able to help me with a regex i'm having trouble with please
[15:15] <jimcooncat> in openoffice, it keeps trying to recover a document that doesn't exist anymore. how can I keep it from trying to recover?
[15:16] <SilentJonathan> yes
[15:16] <SilentJonathan> i have downloaded from some here http://www.wavsource.com/video_games/pac-man.htm
[15:17] <SilentJonathan> these appear to be .wav files
[15:17] <thecommutist> SilentJonathan: can you check in System > Preferences > Sound whether it is properly selected
[15:17] <daniel> Hello there
[15:17] <chindu> i'm trying to validate  a surname using ^[a-zA-Z''-'\s]{1,40}$ but it doesn't work with hypenated surnames
[15:17] <daniel> I got a serious problem... all my /lib/terminfo is gone
[15:18] <Falatooni> Hi
[15:18] <daniel> I don't have any idea how I could restore them ;/
[15:18] <jiffe> anyone know why ifup on eth1 would work fine, but ifdown doesn't do anything, I can still ping the IP on that interface?
[15:18] <Falatooni> I want to run "ls" command in a specified time. Which command I sue? sorry for bad English?
[15:18] <SilentJonathan> yea when i go into the sound tab and use a custom sound and try to use the icon to play it doesnt work, default does
[15:19] <thecommutist> SilentJonathan: they are wav files alright, shouldn't be a problem
[15:19] <daniel> Falatooni: what do you mean? specified time?
[15:19] <ping0> anyone know how to make a ramdisk in ubuntu ?
[15:19] <Michalxo> Falatooni, imo something with cron for you, but never worked with it..
[15:19] <aeonoris> In the terminal, is there an effective way of finding out how many users are on the system, short of "who" and then counting them manually?
[15:19] <thecommutist> Falatooni: you can use the "at" command
[15:19] <azlon> how can i make my ppp0 connection my internet connection and not eth0?
[15:19] <Pici> chindu: Probably a better question for #regex or the language you're using
[15:20] <daniel> thecommutist, Michalxo, he will not see the output, though
[15:20] <n8tuser> jiffe -> confirm with /sbin/ip a  to see if interface is still up and has ip address?
[15:20] <Pici> azlon: who | wc -l ?
[15:20] <thecommutist> daniel: hmm
[15:20] <Falatooni> daniel: for example I want to run "ls" command in 18:52
[15:20] <SilentJonathan> thats very weird, maybe has to be specific bit-rate or something?
[15:20] <dos|equis> I have just turned on the visual effects "normal". Is this effects stable?
[15:20] <chindu> ok - thanks pici
[15:20] <daniel> Falatooni: Where should ls print it's output to?
[15:20] <Falatooni> daniel: I want to use "at" command
[15:20] <dos|equis> BTW, I'm using 8.04
[15:20] <n8tuser> azlon -> do you mean really a ppp connection or just rename eth0 to ppp0?
[15:21] <azlon> Pici, that returned 1
[15:21] <BassKozz> When creating SSH key's to use for access to a remote server, if I use a password when I generate the key will I need to use that password EVERYTIME I log on to the remote server or once per day?
[15:21] <thecommutist> SilentJonathan: are you selecting the right event, for example, "Log In"
[15:21] <jiffe> it still shows 'inet 10.10.10.77/24 brd 10.10.10.255 scope global eth1'
[15:21] <Falatooni> daniel: I used "at 18:82 ls" but it seems this syntax is wrong
[15:21] <Pici> azlon: wc -l counts the number of lines,
[15:21] <bobbob1016> Anyone know of an legal flac music downloading service?  Subscription based hopefully
[15:22] <azlon> n8tuser, i have a eth0 which is wired to a router, then to other machines in the house. i also have a ppp0 which is my 3G connection (where my internet comes from). when i have eth0 enabled (or plugged in) i cannot use the internet.... everything times out
[15:22] <Pici> bobbob1016: Not really on-topic for this channel, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:22] <azlon> Pici, oh that is because i had to disable my eth0 so i could use the internet and ask the question in here
[15:22] <jiffe> it does show state down
[15:22] <jiffe> but the IP still pings
[15:22] <n8tuser> azlon think about it for a minute, if you were a packet and have two ways to get out, ppp0 and eht0, which would you take?
[15:22] <jiffe> is that expected behavior?
[15:23] <Pici> azlon: Sorry, I mistabbed my response, it wasn't for you :)
[15:23] <Pici> aeonoris: who | wc -l ?
[15:23] <thecommutist> daniel: what if he issues the command at virtual console
[15:23] <azlon> n8tuser, i understand that, but i need it to take the other route (ppp0)
[15:23] <bobbob1016> Pici: Thanks, I knew it was off-topic-ish, was going to say ubuntu-compatible, but figured it was redundant
[15:23] <dos|equis> Could someone tell me if the "normal" visual effects is stable.
[15:23] <rschttan> j/ #ububtu-offtopic
[15:23] <n8tuser> azlon -> then you have to do something in your iptables or routing..
[15:23] <azlon> n8tuser, how can i make ppp0 the primary? i will need to share ppp0 with the other machines on the network, but i will tackle that hurtle after this
[15:23] <aeonoris> Pici, thanks
[15:24] <SilentJonathan> thecommutist, yes, i think its the bit rates
[15:24] <jiffe> this is the output of ip addr: http://jiffe.com/ip
[15:24] <n8tuser> azlon -> can you draw us your network layout?  is your box acting as a router?
[15:24] <azlon> n8tuser, hrmm... can you point me to a site that explains it? i have been searching all day
[15:24] <honey^moon> k
[15:24] <azlon> n8tuser, ok, give me a sec
[15:26] <jiffe> the only way I can seem to get eth1 to stop responding to ping requests to 10.10.10.77 is to reboot it
[15:26] <n8tuser> jiffe think about it for a minute, if you were a packet and have two ways to get out, ppp0 and eht0, which would you take?  also pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[15:27] <azlon> n8tuser, my server (Ubuntu 9.04) has my RAID-5, RAID-1 and printer. i have a lan connection (eth0) and a 3G connection (ppp0). i have a cable going from the server to a wifi router (laptops connect via wifi). from the router i have 2 machines wired (both windows). i want the other machines to be able to access the media on the RAID drives and the internet from the server.
[15:27] <jiffe> I'm not talking about which way to go out, 10.10.10.77 shouldn't exist if eth1 is down, correct?
[15:28] <n8tuser> azlon i cant easily follow that, drawing drawing please.. pix speaks loudly
[15:28] <azlon> hrmm
[15:28] <azlon> ok, give me a sec
[15:28] <n8tuser> !who | jiffe
[15:29] <jiffe> n8tuser: http://jiffe.com/interfaces
[15:30] <helpme> is there away to get someones internet adderss to send them a message  i saw two videos on stumble upon where the person needs serious help
[15:31] <furenku> Hey, just installed Jaunty; and am having troubles with automatic login; I just get a black screen. When I go to console and restart gdm, everything works... any ideas?
[15:31] <n8tuser> jiffe -> it seems to be okay, can you also paste your route -n  results?
[15:32] <jiffe> n8tuser: http://jiffe.com/route
[15:34] <n8tuser> jiffe -> it seems to look okay, your eth1 doesnt show it has an ip address, try doing a  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:34] <userone> how can i make the laptop batery appear empty so ubuntu will charge it. my battery monitor is stuck at 100% and so ubuntu never charges the battery
[15:35] <race321> bonsoir comment devenir informaticien
[15:35] <jiffe> n8tuser: no change in the output of route
[15:35] <race321> hello
[15:35] <race321> i am frenche
[15:35] <race321> french
[15:35] <n8tuser> jiffe -> can you still ping eth1 ? and pinging this from where?
[15:35] <n8tuser> !fr | race321
[15:35] <race321> hello4
[15:36] <jiffe> n8tuser: yes, ifconfig -a still shows the IP bound to eth0
[15:36] <jiffe> n8tuser: eth1 I mean
[15:36] <n8tuser> jiffe -> can you still ping eth1 ? and pinging this from where?
[15:36] <chifong> hi al,, is it possible that i can enable the remote desktop by command line?
[15:36] <jiffe> n8tuser: pinging from the local machine and from a different machine on the same network
[15:37] <n8tuser> jiffe -> how exactly are you pinging this, your command please..
[15:37] <jiffe> n8tuser: ping 10.10.10.77
[15:37] <n8tuser> jiffe -> from other machine too ? same command?
[15:37] <jiffe> n8tuser: yeah
[15:37] <ubliRj> gays, how i can install mp3 support only on my kubunru 7.04
[15:37] <crweb2> ubuntu keeps ignoring my UTC=no  and sets the software clock -5:00
[15:38] <helo> after my last safe-upgrade, my hp mini has been having regular lockup problems
[15:38] <mysticdarkhack> hello all!
[15:38] <n8tuser> jiffe -> can you repaste results of   /sbin/ip  a
[15:38] <mysticdarkhack> has anyone install vuze 4.2 or the latest?
[15:39] <jiffe> n8tuser: http://jiffe.com/ip
[15:39] <n8tuser> jiffe -> you have two interfaces on same subnet, please do not do that unless you know what you are doing
[15:39] <mysticdarkhack> I was wondering if you have flash working in vuze
[15:40] <jiffe> n8tuser: whats wrong with that?
[15:40] <n8tuser> jiffe think about it for a minute, if you were a packet and have two ways to get out, eth1 and eht0, which would you take?
[15:40] <brotkasten> hi, is there a way to tell sshd something like a client idle timeout?
[15:41] <jiffe> n8tuser: yeah that makes sense
[15:41] <jetienne> q. is it safe to update 9.04 now ?
[15:41] <n8tuser> jiffe remove the cable from eth1 and ping it again from another machine not from same box.. and see what happens
[15:41] <jiffe> n8tuser: so I want to configure eth0:77 or something similar I am guessing then
[15:41] <mysticdarkhack> 9.04 is safe
[15:42] <Madkiss> hi
[15:42] <ubox> anyone know much about mac keycodes?
[15:42] <ubox> i need the one for alt/option
[15:42] <woodyjlw> need help finding a program, sorry if this is wrong room to ask in.  want a program for my ubuntu that can rip dvd movies into iso so I can store and play them from PC. google isnt helping, probably ause I am not asking the right question.
[15:42] <n8tuser> jiffe -> you have to manipulate the iptables/route tables when having two interfaces on same subnet
[15:42] <ubox> is it just Alt_L
[15:43] <benh1> brotkasten: Set the "ClientAliveInterval" variable in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:43] <brotkasten> benh1: this only works if the tcp connection is down ... not idle
[15:45] <ubox> if i am using RIGHT_CLICK="-right 29 272" # Control key + mouse click, to set right click with ctrl what should i change to use alt/option?
[15:45] <crankharder> hmm, so elinks can't read my routers admin pages now -- because it doesn't support JS?  are there other text browser sthat might do the trick?
[15:45] <chrisw1> woodjlw: dvdrip - it's in the ubuntu repos
[15:45] <ldlework_> Hey guys - I'm attempting to reconfigure my new Ubuntu install from yesterdays power-strip "failure" :) I'm trying to get synergy to work again. I'm using Ubuntu as the server and windows as the client. I can start it and it works but I'm attempting to get synergy to work at the login screen. I have performed all "Server" related steps on this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto page but Synergy is not auto startin
[15:45] <woodyjlw> chriswl thanks :)
[15:46] <chrisw1> woodyjlw: no problem :)
[15:46] <homy> Hi! I am trying to pop up a kdialog from a script run automatically by udev (when a usb drive is plugged in). Now, that doesn't work. I know the udev script is run, because I can touch files fine (although their owner is root then). Can anybody help me?
[15:47] <azlon> n8tuser, ok, finally finished the diagram: http://diagrammr.com/edit?key=dil5dSTFrGI
[15:47] <jiffe> n8tuser: alright, using subinterfaces works
[15:47] <n8tuser> jiffe am glad it works for you
[15:48] <jiffe> n8tuser: I think the reason we had tried a real physical interfaces was because the IP is shared between 2 machines, and when we manually ifdown on one and ifup on the other, arp seems to take a long time to update
[15:48] <Dr_Willis_> homy:  Theres some X security things that keep  other users (or root even i think) from just poping up progams/windows/dialogs on other peoples X desktops.
[15:48] <Dr_Willis_> homy:  and thats about all i know on that topic.:) good luck
[15:48] <n8tuser> azlon -> your server is also acting as a router?
[15:48] <homy> Dr_Willis_: oh. I thought root was all-powerful.
[15:49] <Dr_Willis_> homy:  try it with a simple terminal and xterm or some other from the console.
[15:49] <crweb2> you can popup apps on other peoples desktops. You just have to know what the display id is
[15:49] <Dr_Willis_> homy:  login to X as user.. login as root on console.. try to run somthing :) You at least have to export the DISPLAy or tell the progrma the proper DISPLAy. then th eX security stuff comes into play
[15:50] <crweb2> DISPLAY=":0" firefox
[15:50] <Dr_Willis_> some apps take a DISPLAY argument also :)
[15:50] <homy> If I do kdialog --msgbox ok on the console, it says "kdialog: cannot connect to X server"
[15:51] <Dr_Willis_> xhost i recall is a command to tweak the X security settings also
[15:51] <woodyjlw> chriswl would there be any reason for some of my dvds not to play in ubuntu? do they encode rental movies to only work in some dvd players or do I need to look for a better dvd player program? im on an hp laptop with a dvd burner that dose work and has played dvd's under windows before
[15:51] <ubox> no one knows the keycode for alt/option key on mac keyboard?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  rentals should be the same.   Ive had comercial dvds that crash windows.. but play on linux :)
[15:52] <jimcooncat> a while back, I was moving firefox and thunderbird amond displays, and I HAD to specify --display within the command. Just setting the DISPLAY environment variable wasn't enough.
[15:52] <Dr_Willis_> jimcooncat:  moving? from one X server to another? or what exactly
[15:53] <woodyjlw> lol it is strange that windows plays the movie but ubuntu dose not
[15:53] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  do ANY dvd's work?
[15:53] <jimcooncat> Dr_Willis_ wrong choice of words. *Starting* it on a different display
[15:53] <woodyjlw> some do some dont
[15:53] <Dr_Willis_> jimcooncat:  :) ok..  there is a tool to move them  But its flakey
[15:53] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  with what player?
[15:54] <woodyjlw> movie player,  that comes with ubuntu 8.10
[15:54] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  Eww.. ditch that one :) use mplayer or vlc.
[15:54] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  i hate the default player on ubuntu.
[15:55] <spazlon> n8tuser, sorry, i got disconnected... last thing i saw was you asking if my server was also acting as a router
[15:55] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  and you did install the decss stuff?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis_> !dvd
[15:55] <woodyjlw> oh cool I will try that thanks for the info :)
[15:55] <Zzeiss> What's the drawing program that has the library of shapes that include things like flowchart symbols?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  i even use vlc or mplayer on windows.
[15:55] <n8tuser> spazlon -> your server is also acting as a router?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis_> !info dia
[15:55] <woodyjlw> not the decss stuff , you may have to explain
[15:55] <saml> how can I stop apache from being started at start up?
[15:55] <saml> i only want to manually start
[15:55] <Zzeiss> Dr_Willis: Thanks!  installing now....
[15:55] <azlon> n8tuser, no, it connects to the router and shares media to the other PCs on the network
[15:56] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  theres  restrcited files you need to install to get comercial dvds to play normally.
[15:56] <sunshinepants> saml: chkconfig apache off
[15:56] <saml> sunshinepants, thanks
[15:56] <Dr_Willis_> restricted files. :)
[15:56] <woodyjlw> are they in repository?
[15:56] <saml> there's no such command
[15:56] <n8tuser> azlon -> but you also want the clients to reach the internet via your server?
[15:56] <azlon> n8tuser, when i have both eth0 and ppp0 enabled i cannot access the internet (even though it says connected). when i disable eth0 i can access the itnernet
[15:57] <azlon> n8tuser, eventually, but i have to be able to use the internet while eth0 is enabled first. i have read quite a few sites explaining how to enable ICS, but i havent made it that far yet
[15:57] <nibbler_> azlon: most likely a routing issue
[15:57] <azlon> nibbler_, i have this same problem on all my ubuntu machines, but works like a charm on windows
[15:57] <n8tuser> azlon -> then you need to correct the route table when you have both eth0 and ppp0 enabled
[15:58] <azlon> nibbler_, where should i look for resolution?
[15:58] <woodyjlw> where do I find the restricted files? or what are they named?
[15:58] <azlon> n8tuser, where can i find information on this?
[15:58] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  check tha turl the bot posted whenb i said !dvd
[15:58] <Dr_Willis_> !dvd
[15:58] <azlon> n8tuser, i have been searching the ubuntu forums all day
[15:58] <woodyjlw> oh ok
[15:59] <Dr_Willis_> woodyjlw:  its in somne packages froim the medibuntu repository
[15:59] <n8tuser> azlon -> remember my question about having dual nics? which route should it take to get to the destination?
[15:59] <Dr_Willis_> !medibuntu
[15:59] <azlon> n8tuser, yeah... how do i change that?
[15:59] <n8tuser> azlon -> your clue here is gateway
[15:59] <nibbler_> azlon: i need info about: ifconfig and route -n on server and router, ip nets used in all the segments, firewalling info of router and server
[16:00] <azlon> nibbler_, can i message you?
[16:00] <nibbler_> azlon: mhm ok
[16:00] <n8tuser> azlon -> share it with everyone so everyone can share the learnings?
[16:00] <nibbler_> azlon: would be preferred here, yep
[16:00] <azlon> well i just didnt want blast stuff in the chat
[16:00] <homy> Dr_Willis: hey: with "xhost +" and using "kdialog --display :0" it works!
[16:00] <azlon> ok
[16:01] <azlon> let be get a pastebin going
[16:01] <n8tuser> azlon -> use the pastebin to post large
[16:02] <azlon> n8tuser, nibbler_, brb.... i have to enable eth0 for the ifconfig paste, but when i enable i will lose connection... so brb
[16:02] <Moon_Doggy> is their any way to make synaptic package  manger faster
[16:02] <homy> Howcome udev executes my script about 7 times when I plug in my usb drive?
[16:02] <homy> BUS=="usb", SYSFS{serial}=="AA04012800007435", SYMLINK+="backupusb", RUN+="/home/christoph/Desktop/backupscript.sh"
[16:04] <n8tuser> homy how did you determined it was running your script 7 times?
[16:05] <nh2> someone with a freshly installed Jaunty around? I need to know the original contents of /etc/hosts
[16:06] <lifesengine> how can i tell if i have an oss or alsa sound device?
[16:06] <n8tuser> nh2 -> you can also try booting the livecd and look at same file?
[16:06] <mw44118> n8tuser:
[16:06] <woodyjlw> awesome now my dvd's are all playing under ubuntu :)  many thanks :)
[16:06] <mw44118> nh2: $ cat /etc/hosts
[16:06] <mw44118> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[16:06] <azlon> nibbler_, i have just a generic linksys router... what info do you need from it since i cant run any commands on it
[16:06] <Dr_Willis_> lifesengine:  oss is pretty much dead these days.. alsa can emulate oss  - i recall if needed...
[16:06] <nh2> n8tuser: already thought about that, but not sure if it is equal compared to the one after a real installation
[16:06] <lifesengine> Dr_willis_ im having trouble knowing what to set my outputs to in audacity
[16:07] <lifesengine> the audacity channel is empty and never helpful
[16:07] <n8tuser> nh2 -> should be pretty close
[16:07] <nh2> mw44118: thanks, is it only one line long or is there also a second one beginning weith 127.0.1.1?
[16:07] <Dr_Willis_> lifesengine:  alsa or pulse - i guess.. what options does it allow?
[16:07] <nibbler_> azlon: maybe we can ignore the router for now....
[16:07] <homy> n8tuser: I have it pop up a kdialog everytime it is run.
[16:08] <n8tuser> nh2 also make sure your /etc/hostname  corresponds
[16:08] <nibbler_> azlon: as your problem is on the server, i i got you right? you enable eth0 and server cant access inet anymore?
[16:08] <azlon> nibbler_, correct
[16:08] <homy> And then I count the number of kdialogs popping up.
[16:08] <seidos> lifesengine: I know Audacity uses JACK, which I Think is neither Alsa, Pulse, or OSS
[16:08] <nerdy_kid> hey guys, how to i control an X server runing gdm from tty1-6?  what display whould it be; :0 doesnt work thanks
[16:08] <ubox> does anyone know the codes used by mouseemu for keys?
[16:08] <n8tuser> homy then you need to correct your script, to check if its already running, then dont start it again
[16:09] <ubox> more specificaly the equivalent of Alt_L
[16:09] <lifesengine> Dr_Willis_: yeah, i have tons of AlSA options
[16:09] <homy> n8tuser: isn't that just a bad workaround?
[16:09] <azlon> nibbler_, i have them on different subdomains if that is what you are wondering about. machines are on 192.168.0.x and router is on 192.168.1.x
[16:09] <lifesengine> seidos is there another recording option for music that is coming out of my speakers?
[16:09] <n8tuser> homy nope, its not a workaround, unless you expect your script to be really run several times..
[16:09] <azlon> nibbler_, brb again... have to check on eth0 again
[16:09] <seidos> lifesengine: in prefs -> sounds it might work to test what driver works for sound playback.  ie select Alsa, click test sound, select oss, click test sound
[16:10] <nh2> n8tuser: yes it does, but on some of my systems, my hostname is only in the second line, on others, on the first and on the second and I've no idea why
[16:10] <seidos> lifesengine: no, not that I know of.  Audacity is supposed to be great, if you get to work.
[16:10] <nerdy_kid> how do i control an X server on tty7 from tty1-6?  what display whould it be; :0 doesnt work
[16:10] <nerdy_kid> how do i control an X server on tty7 from tty1-6?  what display whould it be; :0 doesnt work
[16:10] <homy> n8tuser: uhm, I mean: I plug in my usb drive. then, udev is supposed to run my script once. But it runs it seven times. That doesn't have to do anything with the script, so changing it is a bad workaround. Maybe the udev rule I'm using is wrong?
[16:10] <n8tuser> nh2  well make sure /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname are correspondingly correct
[16:11] <Kamujin> strace
[16:11] <castis> okay dudes. question. i have a server that hosts a few different domains, got virtual hosting working no problem. now im having difficulty wrapping my head around hostnames and such. trying to set u email and i need to know the fqdn. i have multiple domains pointing at this box. what the hell is my fqdn?
[16:11] <lifesengine> seidos: i dont see any test options
[16:11] <ShaneN> What is the proper method of adding a program to bootup?
[16:11] <Kamujin> (mistyped)
[16:11] <seidos> lifesengine: I think JACK is a different sound api(?) for low latency audio applications
[16:11] <seidos> !jack
[16:11] <Dr_Willis_> ShaneN:  depends on the program and what its doing.
[16:11] <seidos> !audacity
[16:11] <n8tuser> homy  yah it just supposed to run it once,
[16:11] <ShaneN> Dr_Willis_: It is a Mono background process
[16:11] <lifesengine> seidos: isn't JACK new?
[16:12] <nanotube> ShaneN: if it's a guy program that needs gnome to be running, then stick it into your session startup. if it's a daemon, then use /etc/init.d
[16:12] <lifesengine> seidos: this computer im using is from 04
[16:12] <Dr_Willis_> ShaneN:  for a user? or a system service?
[16:12] <seidos> lifesengine: I don't know how new it is
[16:12] <ShaneN> Dr_Willis_: System service
[16:12] <nanotube> ShaneN: then /etc/init.d it is
[16:12] <seidos> lifesengine: in prefs -> sound on the right side there are four test buttons
[16:12] <Dr_Willis_> ShaneN:  lazy/fast/dirty way - start it from rc.local or make a proper init script for it
[16:12] <ShaneN> nanotube: Figured as much, but wanted to verify
[16:12] <ShaneN> Thanks guy
[16:13] <ShaneN> guys*
[16:13] <lifesengine> seidos: preferences is under edit
[16:13] <seidos> lifesengine: there is probably a how to somewhere, for Audacity/JACK.  what sound card do you have?
[16:13] <lifesengine> seidos: and theres no sound tab
[16:13] <nanotube> ShaneN: np :) as dr_willis_ says, sticking it into rc.local is the "quicker" way.
[16:13] <azlon> nibbler_, back
[16:14] <nibbler_> azlon: did you nopate it?
[16:14] <lifesengine> seidos:  Card: Dell Sound Blaster Live!                                               Ōöé
[16:14] <lifesengine> Ōöé Chip: SigmaTel STAC9708,11
[16:14] <seidos> lifesengine: I'm talking about in Ubuntu's gnome panel, system -> prefs -> sound to answer your original question of whether you have alsa/oss/or pulse audio
[16:14] <seidos> let me see if I can find a how to somewhere for audacity/jack
[16:14] <azlon> nibbler_, http://pastebin.com/m329fc76f
[16:14] <nerdy_kid> how do i load nvidia settings to x from command line?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy_kid:  gksudo nvidia-settings   you mean?
[16:15] <nibbler_> azlon: your default gateway points to eth0
[16:15] <azlon> nibbler_, im totally new to this... where did you see that?
[16:15] <nibbler_> azlon: and this is the problem. you should only have a route for connected network (192.168.0.0/16 stuff) via this interface. if you have a gateway set in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0, remove it, comment it out
[16:16] <nerdy_kid> Dr_Willis i want to run it from cmd line so i can implant it in my kdm script, but nvidia-settings -l -c :0 wont work, say no display connection x(
[16:16] <lifesengine> seidos: thanks a lot for the help
[16:16] <nibbler_> azlon: line 38 shows that connections to 0.0.0.0 with mask 0.0.0.0 (so all connections) go via 192.168.0.1
[16:16] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy_kid:  its an X gui app to config the xorg.conf.. I dont know what your command is supposed to do.. but one normally dosent run stuff that way.
[16:16] <lifesengine> seidos: something interesting, all the tests work except sound capture
[16:16] <seidos> lifesengine: you're trying to record sound from your speakers, let me try it in audacity to see if it works for me
[16:16] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy_kid:  kdm has a feature to run a command  at launch/exit I belive
[16:16] <lifesengine> seidos: sound capture, nothing will play in any of the tests
[16:17] <seidos> lifesengine: using alsa?
[16:17] <nibbler_> azlon: all connections which are not cought by a more specific route that is. if you disconnect eth0 you should see another route, with the p2p partner of your ppp0 devic or smth.
[16:17] <azlon> nibbler_, ok, now i only have auto lo and iface lo inet loopback in my interfaces file
[16:17] <lifesengine> seidos: all of them, i tried alsa, pulse, etc...i get zero sound on the test for sound capture
[16:17] <nibbler_> azlon: dont remove eth0 from the interfaces file, just remove its gateway!
[16:17] <homy> Does anybody know why the script for the following udev rule is run multiple times when I plug in the corresponding usb drive? BUS=="usb", SYSFS{serial}=="AA04012800007435", SYMLINK+="backupusb", RUN+="/home/christoph/Desktop/backupscript.sh"
[16:17] <azlon> nibbler so how can i change the router to default through ppp0?
[16:17] <nerdy_kid> Dr_Willis_ yeah, tried that, it crashes X; i cant run the gui without loging in, and i need it to run before
[16:17] <hamid635> salut
[16:18] <climax64> hallo
[16:18] <climax64> ich habe eine frage zur partitionierung
[16:18] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy_kid:  why do you even need to do this?
[16:18] <homy> !de | climax64
[16:18] <seidos> lifesengine: interesting.  it sounds like your card is supported by all the apis(?).  I'm not sure if api is the right word...
[16:19] <climax64> sorry I'll go to the german channel
[16:19] <seidos> lifesengine: so it's probably supported by JACK too
[16:19] <azlon> nibbler_, this is what i had before: http://pastebin.com/m415d865c and i removed lines 7 and 8... is this correct?
[16:20] <nerdy_kid> Dr_Willis_ in order to apply my settings, i have to run nvidia-settings, then restart kwin because the opengl sync option was set after kwin was started, thus i need it to start before i login lol
[16:20] <nibbler_> azlon: this does not affect eth0, so why did you remove it? this is the complete interfaces file? where is eth0 definitions?
[16:20] <nibbler_> azlon: how did you bring up eth0?
[16:21] <azlon> nibbler_, that is what shows when i edit my interfaces file. i brought up my eth0 by typing ifconfig eth0 up
[16:22] <azlon> nibbler_, i put lines 7 & 8 in there when i was reading some forums... but it didn't make a difference (obviously)
[16:22] <nibbler_> azlon: ok i see, there is a dhcp server on your router, and that configures your eth0 and replaces the default route. setup your eth0 in interfaces file then
[16:22] <Dr_Willis_> nerdy_kid:  err.. I run nvidia-settings as root.. and save the changes to the xorg.conf file - that way they are used by default when X starts...
[16:22] <nibbler_> azlon: servers should have a static setup, and not a dhcp adress. i need to leave now
[16:22] <azlon> nibbler_, uhmm... kind of
[16:22]  * Dr_Willis_ thinks nerdy-kid is not running the tool as root...
[16:23] <azlon> nibbler_, right now i have the 3G modem plugged into my mediacenter-pc running windows and sharing the internet via ICS
[16:23] <n8tuser> homy -> can you paste your script that launches a gui you said?  lets see if its in a loop 7 times?
[16:23] <azlon> nibbler_, that pc has DHCP... but i am not using the routter's DHCP
[16:23] <nibbler_> azlon: you should use your linux pc as router and maybe dhcp server, and let the router you have now just be a switch
[16:24] <azlon> nibbler_, that is my goal, but i need to get this other part working first
[16:24] <nerdy_kid> Dr_Willis_hmmm will try thanks, as i just crashed X xP
[16:24] <nibbler_> azlon: well, i can tell you your eth0 problems are due to the dhcp of your eth0.... so setup eth0 statically and it will work. good luck and cyas ;-)
[16:24] <homy> #!/bin/bash
[16:24] <homy> # Usb Backup script.
[16:24] <homy> kdialog --display :0 --msgbox ok
[16:24] <homy> Thats it.
[16:24] <homy> n8tuser: ^^
[16:25] <n8tuser> homy not sure how udev triggers that 7 times, always 7 times not 3 or 20 sometimes?
[16:25] <samuel> hi, how can i setup an ubuntu server that will host logons and home folders for my network?
[16:25] <homy> n8tuser: yes, its always seven times.
[16:26] <samuel> have never tried NIS/YP
[16:26] <azlon> n8tuser, what nibbler told me doesnt make sense. he said i need to change eth0 to a static IP and it will start working... my IP is already static
[16:26] <samuel> would NIS be a better route or winbind with a samba server?
[16:27] <n8tuser> azlon -> yes it makes sense to have a static address for your eth0 as it is a server. but you have to routing tricks to tell your server packets distined to your local subnet is through eth0
[16:28] <azlon> n8tuser, ok, so how do i do this? is there a tutorial or something i can read?
[16:29] <homy> n8tuser: do you have an idea about my weird udev problem?
[16:30] <nerdy_kid> Dr_Willis_ nope.  doesnt load all the settings :(
[16:31] <n8tuser> homy i suspect it is triggered because the rules you have is not unique enuff for  udev?
[16:31] <dragonlyre> good morning
[16:31] <n8tuser> azlon there are many networking tutorials, i dont have the link off hand
[16:32] <thewozza> I'm running 9.04 - is there a 'right way' to install PCF fonts?  I want them to be usable in the Gimp and in OO.
[16:32] <thewozza> Specifically I'd like to use Cyrillic fonts to create documents - I don't want to use them all the time.
[16:32] <homy> n8tuser: well, I have SYSFS{serial}=="AA04012800007435" which is very specific to the device.
[16:33] <thewozza> I installed the package xfonts-cyrillic and they are not available.
[16:33] <n8tuser> homy narrow it down some more, with idProduct idVendor  and such
[16:34] <thewozza> I attempted the methods from various websites, which suggest I can add them to my ~/.fonts folder and then run fc-cache -fv but this had no effect.
[16:34] <thewozza> I also tried to add them to my own folder in /usr/share/fonts but this didn't work either.
[16:35] <thewozza> Is there a right way to do this?
[16:35] <n8tuser> homy also look in your udev rules directory, there may be something there that triggers it
[16:36] <lifesengine> any ideas on how to properly configure audacity?
[16:36] <lifesengine> at this point, i don't know if  my sound card is alsa or what
[16:37] <dav4> hey
[16:38] <dav4> yo
[16:38] <JuJuBee> Hello.  I just installed fedora11 into some empty space on my extra desktop.  It was already running jaunty.  Now the fedora grub menu loads and not the ubuntu one.  How can I boot either os?
[16:38] <yonatan> hi
[16:38] <dav4> exit
[16:39] <jazzzz> hello
[16:39] <JuJuBee> someone from #fedora told me to chainload grub  can someone help me with this?
[16:39] <yonatan> i'm looking for someone who is familiar with the "minimal virtual machine" installation option of Ubuntu Server 9.04
 i've a problem with the mailing assistant
 i begin to send the mail to my evolution adress book
 there is a problem withe one mail (i think because the box is full)
 and then it stop send all the other mail
 how can i do to continue send the mail enven if one adress is bad
 it use to be ok before, because i already did it
 you uderstand?
[16:40] <homy> n8tuser: I added idVendor and idProduct to the udev rule, but the script is still exectued (exactly) 7 times. And no, the script isn't mentioned in any other udev rules.
[16:40] <martadinata> how to register on this servers?
[16:40] <Pici> !register | martadinata
[16:41] <dragonlyre> non ubuntu question...why when I try register my nick it says not a valid email address?
[16:41] <jazzzz> nobody for my mailing problem?
[16:41] <Pici> dragonlyre: resigtration help in #freenode please.
[16:42] <dragonlyre> ok thanks :)
[16:42] <martadinata> thanks
[16:42] <martadinata> !register martadinata
[16:42] <Notch-1> how can i log in remotly, with the full graphic interface? (not with ssh + X forwarding, for instance)
 nobody for my mailing problem with openoffice?
[16:43] <jimcooncat> I need a link to file permission help -- looking to have any new file in a directory to be owned by a particular user, not necessarily the user that made the file
[16:43] <yonatan> anyone who can help with this" i'm looking for someone who is familiar with the "minimal virtual machine" installation option of Ubuntu Server 9.04"
[16:45] <homy> n8tuser: do you have any further idea?
[16:46] <axisys> is this something i need to worry about http://secunia.com/advisories/36722/ ? i am using puppet 0.24.8 on ubuntu
[16:46] <n8tuser> homy -> umm you looked in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for any of those scripts that may trigger once you plug in the usb?
[16:46] <jazzzz>  nobody for my mailing problem with openoffice?
[16:47] <radoua_> hi
[16:47] <shos> Hello, I really need to fix the USB transfer rate issue on ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15 hdd install. can someone plz help?
[16:48] <radoua_> hwo to install .tar.gz
[16:48] <radoua_> comment installer des fichier .tar.gz
[16:48] <homy> n8tuser: If I do a "grep backupscript.sh *" in /etc/udev, I only get one line which is in my udev rule.
[16:48] <jazzzz> nobody for my mailing problem with openoffice?
[16:49] <ikonia> jazzzz: as a side note, if you're looking for open office specific help it can be worth lookin in #openoffice.org channel
[16:49] <shos> radoua_: http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=how+to+install+.tar.gz&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
[16:49] <Pici> axisys: Doesn't look like it.  Looks like its just for the way that Fedora packages puppet.  Look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495096 and compare with the Ubuntu paths to be sure.
[16:50] <Pici> radoua_: tar.gz are compressed archives, similar to .zip files on Windows.  If its a program you're trying to install then you should check the package repositories first.
[16:50] <n8tuser> homy try to search for something else, not your script, but other SYSFS{}
[16:50] <radoua_> pici thanks
[16:50] <No-Neck> Hi everyone, does anyone have any ideas as to why a fresh install of 8.04 won't boot off a USB stick? GRUB hangs at "loading, please wait" (it managed to boot once, strangely). Tried noapic nolapic
 thanks i'm there too
[16:51] <axisys> Pici: thanks
[16:52] <dajhorn> axisys: Also note that puppet is in the universe repository, so Ubuntu is unlikely to apply low priority security patches to it.
[16:52] <homy> n8tuser: there is no other rule with the same idProduct as my rule.
[16:52] <n8tuser> homy other rules that possibly meets your usb drive?
[16:53] <homy> n8tuser: I think these maybe:
[16:53] <homy> KERNEL=="vboxdrv", NAME="vboxdrv", OWNER="root", GROUP="root", MODE="0600"
[16:53] <homy> SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", GROUP="vboxusers", MODE="0664"
[16:53] <homy> SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ENV{DEVTYPE}=="usb_device", GROUP="vboxusers", MODE="0664"
[16:53] <FloodBot2> homy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <sqrt> Tell me please, when alpha 6 will be released? (UTC)
[16:53] <ikonia> sqrt: #ubuntu+1 for the latest on 9.10, check the topic
[16:53] <ScottG> How do I nest a variable inside another variable in bash? Would it be like $var"$num" ?
[16:54] <ikonia> ScottG: $VARIABLE=$OTHER_VARIABLE
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> ScottG:  check the advanced bash scripting guide for examples.. :) thats what i always do...
[16:54] <ScottG> ikonia: I don't want to change variables value, I want to use another variable as part of a variable.
[16:55] <Pici> ScottG: Or ask in #bash, its more on-topic there.
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> ScottG:  i think thats called deferareanceing.. or somthing that i sort of skimmed over. :)
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> dereferancing
[16:55] <ScottG> Dr_Willis: ok. Thanks
[16:55] <ikonia> concatanation
[16:55]  * Dr_Willis has extra letters in ther somewher
[16:55] <dark_age> hi@all, is anyone here who speaks german?
[16:55] <userone> can i use smapi on something other than a thinkpad?
[16:56] <Pici> !de | dark_age
[16:56] <n8tuser> homy try to disable those other rules temporarily and see if it still trigger 7 times
[16:56] <aspoor> ???
[16:57] <homy> n8tuser: triggers 7 times anyway.
[16:57] <Pici> aspoor: Do you have a support question?
[16:57] <axisys> dajhorn: ok .. i checked the puppet as well .. and it looks ubuntu pkg'd it securely anyways
[16:57] <omniuni> hi guys, a bunch of random images in my Firefox are showing up with greatly reduced color (almost completely grayscale) and I can't find anything after about half an hour of Google. Any ideas?
[16:58] <n8tuser> homy you disabled those other rules that meets the criteria of your usb? did you restart udev?
[16:58] <homy> n8tuser: I commented out those rules and did an "sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart"
[16:59] <n8tuser> homy which rule number is your customized one?
[17:00] <homy> n8tuser: I put it in a file named 00-custom.rules
[17:00] <Genscher> hey :) i just installed ubuntu minimal (9.04) and i am wondering about some missing keys in the shell like tab and backspace doesn't work :) any ideas?
[17:01] <ikonia> Genscher: you need additional bash packages that contain the config files
[17:01] <Genscher> ikonia, ah thanks! let me google for that
[17:01] <ikonia> Genscher: eg: bash-completion
[17:01] <n8tuser> homy yah yours takes priority over defaults, i wonder if it still trigger some of the default rules later on
[17:01] <omniuni> Genscher: tab is an auto-complete key, so if you type, for example "cd /h" and press tab, it should complete to "cd /home/"
[17:01] <ikonia> Genscher: that is the name of one of the packages.
[17:01] <ScottG> Dr_Willis: $var"$var2" seems to work
[17:01] <Genscher> ikonia, i guesses so, thanks for the helping start :) (didn't know this since normal ubuntu got thatz installed)
[17:02] <ikonia> Genscher: that's the price of the minimal install, nothing can be taken for granted
[17:02] <Genscher> i don't complain :)
[17:02] <Lokan__> How do I find a running program that doesn't show on the desktop?
[17:03] <ikonia> Lokan__: ps -ef
[17:03] <omniuni> ikonia: I thought that was part of Bash?
[17:03] <StevenMyers> Afternoon everyone. Does anyone here know why xampp (lampp) shows up in /opt/ but does not show up in my browser when I load the localhost ?
[17:03] <ikonia> omniuni: ubuntu strips it into seperate packages for the config
[17:03] <ikonia> StevenMyers: not running in a webserver
[17:03] <omniuni> ikonia: ah! that is good to know.
[17:03] <StevenMyers> so set a symnbolic link to /var/www/ would help right?
[17:03] <ikonia> StevenMyers: you've used xampp - it's a self conftained environemtn, why did you not just apache2/mysql/php from the ubuntu repo's ? it's supportable then
[17:04] <ikonia> StevenMyers: no,
[17:04] <omniuni> StevenMyers: did you start the server with "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start"?
[17:04] <StevenMyers> Sure did
[17:04] <ikonia> StevenMyers: not if your ubuntu web server is not php/mysql aware, xammp should install it's own web browser
[17:04] <ikonia> sorry - webserver
[17:04] <StevenMyers> ah
[17:04] <n8tuser> homy how about also trying  OPTIONS+="last_rule"  added to your rule ?
[17:04] <Lokan__> ah, I mean how do I get to the program? When I run games in Wine it makes anything I have open disappear from the desktop..but they're still running.
[17:04] <StevenMyers> So remove the php/myswl?
[17:05] <ikonia> StevenMyers: no - remove xammp - and use the ubuntu php/mysql/apache packages
[17:05] <homy> n8tuser: nope. 7 times
[17:05] <StevenMyers> ok.
[17:05] <omniuni> Lokan__: press "ctrl+alt+f3" and log in... then run the command "sudo pkill wine" and that should get rid of Wine, and reveal your programs running under it.
[17:05] <StevenMyers> thank you ikonia
[17:05] <n8tuser> homy what mods you made so far?
[17:05] <Genscher> hm, there seem to be another problem like arrow keys and backspace key result in weird input digits (i am on a terminal). I have a normal ubuntu on another server, also via terminal it works fine :)
[17:06] <ikonia> Genscher: more packages needed
[17:06] <homy> n8tuser: I just added that one rule. (And I installed virtualbox, I think it added some udev rules, that are those that I commented out above.)
[17:06] <jshultz> how crazy. itunes 9 regularly maxes out the cpu in VB. Photoshop CS4? not even close.
[17:06] <omniuni> StevenMyers: On a plus note, setting up a real server with Ubuntu is quite easy... install apache2, php5, and proftpd and you'll be well on your way
[17:06] <Genscher> ikonia, google doesn't produce anything usefull, i'll search the ubuntuwiki better :)
[17:06] <n8tuser> homy  did you restart udev?
[17:07] <homy> n8tuser: yes, via "sudo invoke-rc.d udeve restart"
[17:07] <StevenMyers> omnuni: thank you very much, got that all installed and removed xampp
[17:07] <_akahige_> I've been having problems with the Skype client locking up (running Jaunty now, but also in previous versions). I see in Synaptic that there are other versions of the client built against static libs and different sound architecture. Was wondering if anyone had any experience or similar problems...
[17:07] <ErJeeB> hi
[17:07] <ErJeeB> wow 1438 people :|
[17:08] <omniuni> StevenMyers: good luck, the next steps I'd take if I were you would be to google for enabling tilde public_html folders for users, and changing the default apache page.
[17:09] <ubunter> something odd is happening with my network, I'm pretty sure it's dns related but am out of ideas... I have a server that can't ping anything on the internet like www.google.com and can't access the net using firefox, but it can ping everything local
[17:09] <jucaoma> ubuntu-mx
[17:09] <dee> Hello.
[17:09] <ErJeeB> how do i make my wireless network adapter work without having an internet connection to do the sudo apt-get commands?
[17:09] <omniuni> ErJeeB: what wireless card is it?
[17:09] <ubunter> the odd thing is that it has firestarter firewall with internet connection sharing, and internet works fine on a secondary computer
[17:09] <ErJeeB> i have ndiswrapper installed but it says the hardware isn't present
[17:09] <ErJeeB> SMC2862W-G EU
[17:10] <n8tuser> homy btw, backupusb  is under /dev/   once you plugin your usb ?
[17:10] <dee> could someone tell me what "PreDepends:" means and packages in <...> when I list something like "apt-cache depends xutiles-dev"
[17:10] <omniuni> ErJeeB: are you sure that it needs NDISwrapper?
[17:10] <ErJeeB> yes
[17:10] <userone> can i run this in ubuntu 9.04 or do i need to install smapi first: # echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/force_discharge
[17:10] <ErJeeB> else it doesn't detect a wireless network adapter :\
[17:10] <homy> n8tuser: yes, its a symbolic link to /dev/sdf1
[17:10] <ErJeeB> now it also doesn't....
[17:11] <omniuni> ErJeeB: if so, then you just need the *.ini for Windows XP, and it should work fine... download the installer on another computer, bring it over, and use cabextract to pull out the files
[17:11] <Quasar1048> Oh man, I need help badly....
[17:11] <ErJeeB> i've done that
[17:11] <ErJeeB> it says the hardware isn't present
[17:11] <Quasar1048> Google is reporting an invalid security ceritficate- my internet is useless!
[17:11] <ErJeeB> : http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6540/47592107.png
[17:11] <omniuni> ErJeeB: it will say that until you have the right *.ini file
[17:11] <Quasar1048> I saying the date is like... 2008?
[17:11] <omniuni> ErJeeB: make sure it is a Windows XP or lower version
[17:11] <Quasar1048> Its*
[17:12] <ErJeeB> it is the right one... i used the one for WinXP
[17:12] <omniuni> Quasar1048: which version of Ubuntu are you using (Ubuntu, Kubuntu...)
[17:12] <ErJeeB> i also have a win98 driver for it
[17:12] <Quasar1048> Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04.
[17:12] <Quasar1048> this happened after I tried to install a new dvd drive
[17:13] <ErJeeB> i use ubuntu 8.10 btw :P
[17:13] <omniuni> ErJeeB: did you check to see if it is perhaps supported under an atheros driver, or broadcom now?
[17:13] <ErJeeB> 9.04 wont boot :\
[17:13] <Quasar1048> I reset the bios jumper so that I could start fresh, when I rebooted, Goole was all screwy
[17:13] <ErJeeB> what's thatr? XD
[17:13] <Quasar1048> My time/date is right.. I checked that. Tried updating, nothing...
[17:13] <StevenMyers> omniuni: Do you recommend phpmyadmin for webservers if you have apache and mysql installed?
[17:13] <omniuni> ErJeeB: ah, interesting. I am curious, though, because most SMC cards have worked without needing ndiswrapper for a while, because they use the atheros chipset
[17:14] <Quasar1048> The only thing I can figure is the date/time doesnt match the cert. perfectly?
[17:14] <ErJeeB> it's an OLD USB network adapter :P
[17:14] <Quasar1048> can I hack it to bypass lookin for one?
[17:14] <Thaddeus1> hello
[17:14] <Thaddeus1> i need help with my sound
[17:14] <Quasar1048> I REALLY need to check my email!
[17:15] <dragonlyre> Thaddeus1 whats the issue?
[17:15] <omniuni> StevenMyers: It depends on your needs. PHPmyAdmin gives you a nice web-interface for browsing and managing databases. There are some local softwares (Like OpenOffice Base) that can do that as well, or you may just be able to do it with a CMS for whatever you're developing on the server
[17:15] <Thaddeus1> I have an on-board sound card for my motherboard and a Creative X-Fi Titanium installed in my computer
[17:15] <Thaddeus1> While I know that X-Fi does not have support at this time, I managed to get the on-board sound working last night
[17:15] <StevenMyers> Sounds good omniuni. Thank you
[17:16] <jshultz> i tried using gimp yesterday and today. it's hard to get out of the photoshop way of doing things.
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> however when I went to turn on the sound today it would not come out
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> when I went to lspci -v in terminal both sound cards were listed
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> but in aplay -l
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> only the X-Fi sound card was listed
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> after some other fiddling and rebooting aplay -l now displays "no soundcards found..."
[17:16] <omniuni> jshultz: what do you want to do?
[17:16] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus1:  Do you dual-boot?
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> NO
[17:16] <Mathias-S> Hello! Installing Ubuntu for the first time on a computer with WinVista and Win7. Is it possible to skip installation of the new boot loader and use Windows' boot loader? The installation only recognizes the WinVista installation, so I don't really trust it to replace my current MBR
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> sorry
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> haha
[17:16] <Thaddeus1> no
[17:16] <FloodBot2> Thaddeus1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:17] <Michalxo> hello! where can I find intel G31 graphics thread issue?
[17:17] <Thaddeus1> I use 11.1 as my only OS
[17:17] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus1:  haha its okay.  I was just curious as to why not remove the card if you're not actively using the card in another OS.
[17:17] <jshultz> i was trying to make this graphic that showed a relation between a person and his/her bosses with various emotions they felt.
[17:17] <ubunter> sovled my own prob: turns out I just needed to remove any references to dns-nameservers from interfaces and add them to resolv.conf instead
[17:17] <omniuni> Mathias-S: that is actually correct. Windows doesn't dual boot like most OS's do, GRUB will chainload into the windows bootloader from there
[17:17] <jshultz> part of a project i'm doing for a touchy/feely life coach.
[17:17] <Thaddeus1> I could do that but I'm not quite sure why it isn't recognizing the on-board sound as is?
[17:17] <Quasar1048> So.. I take it this problem cannot be fixed
[17:18] <Quasar1048> ?*
[17:18] <omniuni> Mathias-S: you COULD use windows boot loader, but it is quite tricky, and not as powerful, and it can't be updated when you get new kernels
[17:18] <Guest6002> I have a script connecting remotely via ssh that is rejected when run by cron yet works when run on the command line. If I run the script from another machine it works fine both on via cron and the cli. What could I be missing?
[17:18] <Quasar1048> jsut wonderful... not I have no internet for no damn reason
[17:18] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus I went thru the same issue with an addon sound card a while back, and they conflict if the device is detected at all.  I've not had much luck at card-type soundcards playing nice with built-in sound
[17:18] <Mathias-S> omniuni: Ok, so GRUB doesn't actually replace the windows boot loader?
[17:18] <Thaddeus1> Okay.  Let me shut down, uninstall and reboot.  If I still have problems I will let you know.  Thank you.
[17:19] <Quasar1048> this never happened in windows. I have never heard of this. Apparently Ubunt is a POS OS
[17:19] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  np gl
[17:19] <omniuni> Mathias-S: correct, what it does, is it passes control to it, and then pretends like it's not there, this tricks windows into loading its own boot loader, and then it boots itself
[17:19] <Mathias-S> omniuni: Alright, so it'll first boot into GRUB, then into Windows boot loader, and from there I can choose Vista or Win7?
[17:19] <Quasar1048> resetting the date should not mess up my certs. That is just pathetic
[17:19] <deandz> need help, how to run compiz on unichrome
[17:20] <xTEMPLARx> Quasar:  that would be a browser issue regardless, I'd say, not an OS issue.
[17:20] <n8tuser> Quasar1048 -> crypto stuff are time dependent,
[17:20] <omniuni> Mathias-S: Indeed, that should work. GRUB usually does a good job with multiple windows partitions too.... if you have a recovery partition, it should get its own entry, which is quite convenient once you figure out which is the recovery partition, and which is actually windows
[17:20] <U8untu> hi
[17:20] <U8untu> i have some problems
[17:21] <Mathias-S> omniuni: I don't have a recovery partition. But thanks a lot! I'll proceed with the installation :) Let's see how this will work out
[17:21] <omniuni> Mathias-S: good luck!
[17:21] <homy> !ask | U8untu
[17:22] <U8untu> i have installed.. some irc servers.. i have uninstalled them ... but it dont work...but instead..it connects me to the server (i dont know how,but the server starts automatically) .. and... it says that * Password incorrect
[17:23] <bp0> is karmic alpha6 released today?
[17:23] <sipior> Quasar1048: you might try reinstalling the ca-certificates package. also, which bios setting did you touch?
[17:24] <orange--> aaaa
[17:24] <Pici> bp0 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[17:24] <bp0> alrighthen
[17:25] <mattis> I have a USB stick with only 400MB capacity. Is it possible to bootstrap an ubuntu installation from it?
[17:25] <U8untu> nobody know whats the problem? :(
[17:25] <Quasar1048> sipior: I reset the jumper. How do I reinstall the certs?
[17:26] <merlin2049er> hey, is there a wmv decoder for ubuntu?
[17:26] <Quasar1048> sipior: all my borwsers are borken. I have no SSL support. Cnat log in to anything
[17:26] <sipior> Quasar1048: apt-get install --reinstall ca-certificates
[17:27] <sipior> Quasar1048: prefixed with sudo, of course
[17:27] <Thaddeus1> back...still no soundcards found
[17:27] <U8untu> i have installed.. some irc servers.. i have uninstalled them ... but it dont work...but instead..it connects me to the server (i dont know how,but the server starts automatically) .. and... it says that * Password incorrect ... * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[17:27] <Quasar1048> There is more than one ca-cert
[17:28] <Quasar1048> thats why I asked
[17:28] <Quasar1048> but.. I guess I do need them all anyway...
[17:28] <homy> n8tuser: do you have any further idea? This problem is really weird.
[17:28] <Thaddeus1> can anyone help?  My soundcards still not found
[17:29] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  welcome back.
[17:29] <Quasar1048> Well, I reinstalled... guess I need to reboot?
[17:29] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  did you remove the add-in soundcard?
[17:29] <Thaddeus1> Yes
[17:30] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  so now, what do you show in the sound control under System..Prefs...Sound?
[17:30] <sipior> U8untu: could you explain what "it" is at every stage of your question?
[17:30] <Thaddeus1> Autodetect on all except sound capture which says ALSA
[17:30] <Thaddeus1> But there's no "Intel HDA" options under any of them
[17:30] <ZexXx> daii galera
[17:30] <ZexXx> IAUhauhuah
[17:31] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  very strange.  It's not disabled in BIOS is it?
[17:31] <Thaddeus1> No
[17:31] <Thaddeus1> Wouldn't it not be recognized then by lspci?
[17:31] <bro> U8untu, try writing the whole problem in just one post for ease of tracking. | you probably use a registered nickname, so the server is asking for login. change the nick if you don't registered it [and you know the password too]
[17:31] <djbpython> I just installed ubuntu I have an amd 64 2ghz with over 1gb of memory and ubuntu is very unresponsive and thrashing my disk like hell
[17:31] <U8untu> sipior  so.. i made an irc server..for LAN.. i have uninstalled it..but..strange..it still starts with ubuntu.. and sais that *Incorrect Password ..and ** Disconnected (Remote host closed socket).
[17:31] <djbpython> any ideas?
[17:32] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  I would expect it to be discovered by the system at boot if it's present (i.e., not disabled in BIOS).
[17:32] <OriWB> hey, is it worth upgrading to Jaunty Jackalope or not?
[17:32] <omniuni> OriWB: what version are you on now?
[17:32] <Thaddeus1> where in BIOS would it be?
[17:32] <U8untu> bro ... * [U8untu] is signed on as account U8untu ... so..i am logged.. :|
[17:32] <amerinese> what's the current recommended way to get firestarter to open on startup?
[17:32] <omniuni> OriWB: at this point, it's probably best just to wait a month and go straight to Karmic
[17:32] <lifesengine> im having sound issues as well, my capture device in sounds wont test
[17:32] <amerinese> there's a lot of older information out there, not sure what is the current way
[17:32] <lifesengine> everything else is set to autodetect
[17:33] <grawity> U8untu: the /whois output you just posted only applies to Freenode IRC network, not to your own IRC servers.
[17:33] <OriWB> omniuni: but aren't the newer ones filled with a whole bunch of new bugs?
[17:33] <xTEMPLARx> Thaddeus:  There is normally a section of the BIOS for on-board devices to be enabled/disabled.  things like RAID controllers, sound cards and the like.  Every BIOS is a bit different so you may have to poke around.  Just make sure not to change anything else in there if you're not comfy with tinkering.
[17:33] <mandyL> hello
[17:33] <Thaddeus1> k be back in a sec
[17:33] <Alvinware> my firefox, and real player offen stop responding, is it related to hard disk fragmentation?
[17:33] <mandyL> whats a good nvidia gfx card that will handle compiz and its effects
[17:34] <U8untu> grawity  i know..i showed to bro that im logged in..here..he told me to log in
[17:34] <ErJeeB> o/query omniuni
[17:35] <Alvinware> my firefoc, and real player offen stop responding, is it related to hard disk fragmentation?
[17:35] <terje> howdy, anyone know how to get cgmail to show updates using notify-osd ?
[17:35] <OriWB> omniuni: aren't new versions filled with new bugs?
[17:35] <xTEMPLARx> Alvin:  It shouldn't be if you're using ext2-4 filesystem
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> Alvin:  fragmentation isn't usually a major issue
[17:36] <Alvinware> xTEMPLARx, yes i'm using ext3.
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> What are you doing in firefox usually when the problem happens?
[17:37] <Alvinware> After the most recent firefox update, the problem occurs.
[17:37] <xTEMPLARx> Alvinware:  I've seen firefox act that way after opening many many tabs until the app is restarted, but not from just normal use.
[17:38] <FloridaGuy> my network connection icon on the gnome panel has a red (x) in it with no connections showing in it but yet i have internet connection
[17:38] <FloridaGuy> ?
[17:38] <OriWB> how do i find out if my computer is 32btor 64bit?
[17:38] <FloridaGuy> OriWB, what cpu you have
[17:38] <userone> does ubuntu use an alternative to smapi?
[17:38] <terje> OriWB look in /proc/cpuinfo
[17:39] <stew> OriWB: grep "flags.*lm" /proc/cpuinfo
[17:39] <Alvinware> My pidgin just stop respoding just now.
[17:39] <OriWB> stew: sorry, i dont understand
[17:39] <Alvinware> What's the problem?
[17:39] <stew> OriWB: run this command, "grep "flags.*\blm\b" /proc/cpuinfo" if it spits anything out, you have 64 bit. if it doesn't output anything you have 32 bit
[17:40] <xTEMPLARx> Alvinware:  I'm not aware of any problem affecting all three of those apps.  You might check ubuntuforums.org and see if others have had the same problem
[17:40] <OriWB> stew:so no file direcotry means 32 bit?
[17:40] <stew> OriWB: no, that means something different
[17:40] <tim167> hello, i try to get dual screen working on a nvidia video card with separate x-windows, but after restart it fails to load X settings, can anyone help ?
[17:41] <Alvinware> I'm using two torrent engines continually downloading for 24 hours per day, 7 days a week, non-stop, would it be fragmentation?
[17:41] <stew> OriWB: if you "ls /proc" do you get lots of results? or nothing? or what?
[17:41] <OriWB> stew: got a whole bunch of stuff
[17:41] <stew> OriWB: are you running linux?
[17:41] <OriWB> stew: of course
[17:41] <bastid_raZor> tim167: did you use nvidia-settings to set them?
[17:41] <OriWB> stew: its all in blue
[17:42] <FloridaGuy> ? why would my network connections show a red (X) in the gnome panel icon..with nothing in it..and still have internet connection
[17:42] <stew> OriWB: can you show me the exact command you ran that gave you "No such file.."?
[17:42] <tim167> bastid_raZor: yes, both that and also nvidia-xconfig
[17:42] <ltcabral> hey i selected an emerald theme in emerald-theme-manager but it didnt take effect... how can i apply it?
[17:42] <OriWB> stew: i might'veaccidently put in the quotes. just  sec'
[17:42] <userone> can i use sysfsutils to discharge the battery?
[17:42] <OriWB> stew: this time i got stuff
[17:42] <bastid_raZor> tim167: did you open nvidia-settings in a terminal with gksudo? using nvidia-settings from the drop down menu doesn't allow you to save to xorg.conf
[17:43] <OriWB> stew: so that means 64?
[17:43] <stew> OriWB: you need the quotes around "flags.*\blm\b", but not around the whole thing
[17:43] <stew> OriWB: yes, if you have the "lm" flag, that is "long mode" which is 64 bit
[17:43] <tim167> bastid_raZor: yes i did run it as root, it saves xorg.conf but on reboot i get an error and X doesnt load
[17:43] <OriWB> stew: great thanx alot
[17:44] <bastid_raZor> tim167: what is the error?
[17:44] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i don't remember exactly, it fails to load X and proposes me to run in low graphics mode
[17:45] <Alvinware> Does any one here have experience often applications stop responding? I need help.
[17:45] <bastid_raZor> tim167: that error may be the key to why things fail.
[17:45] <tim167> bastid_raZor:  can i trace it ?
[17:46] <bastid_raZor> tim167: ~/.xsession-errors may tell you something.
[17:46] <ErJeeB> Alvinware: Kubuntu or Ubuntu?
[17:47] <Alvinware> ErjeeB, Ubuntu.
[17:47] <ErJeeB> 8.10? 9.04? ...?
[17:47] <ErJeeB> wich verion?
[17:47] <Alvinware> ErjeeB, 9.04.
[17:47] <userone> is it safe to remove the laptop battery when running on ac? will ubuntu still monitor the battery?
[17:47] <ErJeeB> lol nope 9.04 won't even install on my PC :')
[17:47] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i don't see a lot there, maybe "x-session-manager[3244]: atk-bridge-WARNING: AT_SPI_REGISTRY was not started at session startup" ???
[17:48] <amerinese> userone: that depends on your laptop
[17:48] <ErJeeB> no idea
[17:48] <amerinese> most laptops it's fine
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> userone: how can it monitor something that is not there. the laptop should still run though
[17:48] <userone> or recognise the battry when it is put back, i mean :-)
[17:48] <levene> I am running ubuntu 8.04 and I would like to update to the latest version of the nvidia driver. is there an ubuntu-friendly way to do that?
[17:48] <ErJeeB> yes :')\
[17:48] <levene> what is it?
[17:48] <ErJeeB> administration > something with drivers :')
[17:48] <bastid_raZor> tim167: which version of ubuntu?
[17:48] <bro> ErJeeB: what do you mean ubuntu 9.04 won't install on your pc?
[17:48] <userone> amerinese: i have a 1005ha
[17:48] <tim167> bastid_raZor: Jaunty 64bit
[17:49] <ErJeeB> gives an error while booting from livgfe CD or installing from wubi
[17:49] <ErJeeB> 1 error with wubi
[17:49] <Alvinware> ErjeeB, I'm sorry, just now auto terminated again, E: shm.c: mmap() failed: Cannot allocate memory
[17:49] <Alvinware> .
[17:49] <ErJeeB> 200 with liveCD XD
[17:49] <levene> ErJeeB: well, Administration->Hardware Drivers tells me that I have the nvidia driver installed├óŌĆ░, but gives no options to upgrade it.
[17:49] <ErJeeB> lol
[17:49] <ErJeeB> make more swap alvinware?
[17:49] <ErJeeB> i don't know :P
[17:49] <levene> ErJeeB: it's an old, buggy version. i want tthe new one
[17:50] <userone> bastid_raZor: the battery monitor is reading 100% and so ubuntu wont charge the battery. i know the battery is at 0%.
[17:50] <tim167> bastid_raZor: or maybe "(gnome-settings-daemon:3350): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_propagate_error: assertion `src != NULL' failed" means something ?
[17:50] <bro> ErJeeB: you sure the image is not corrupted?
[17:50] <Aayush> how could i create VCD from .dat files in buuntu .....
[17:50] <ErJeeB> on other PC it works
[17:51] <bro> ErJeeB: what version of ubuntu are you currently running?
[17:51] <DShepherd> is there an upstart channel?
[17:51] <ErJeeB> 8.10
[17:51] <Alvinware> ErjeeB, again auto terminated, i already having 3gb of ram.
[17:51] <bastid_raZor> tim167: pastebin .xsession-errors
[17:51] <ErJeeB> xd
[17:51] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ok hold on
[17:51] <ErJeeB> i think i can't help you alvinware :P
[17:52] <Aayush> how could i create VCD from .dat files in ubuntu ... brasero gives this error:  "it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins"
[17:52] <bastid_raZor> userone: actually the battery on my laptop reads incorrectly too. but it charges  even though it says it isn't.
[17:52] <ldlework_> Hey guys is there a way to "ghost" images of ubuntu once they are fully configured?
[17:52] <rigel> is there some way to execute a script upon connection to a particular SSID?
[17:52] <Alvinware> ErjeeB, how about the applications often stop responding case?
[17:52] <bastid_raZor> !clone | ldlework_
[17:52] <tim167> bastid_raZor:  http://pastebin.com/m72896d5a
[17:53] <Quasar1048> All my browsers are reporting invalid certificates and and a reinstall of ca-certs didn't fix it... idea on what else I can try?
[17:53] <graingert> anyone have xchat-otr?
[17:53] <ErJeeB> i don't know alvinware i don't know about ubuntu for so long :')
[17:53] <ldlework_> bastid_raZor: I'm thinking more comprehensive. Like the entire image.
[17:53] <Alvinware> ok.
[17:53] <sphenxes> I am using tar and rsync to back up my system. I have read about Amanda back up system. My question: is there a program more sophisticated than tar and easier to use than Amanda? or what is the best software you use for backup?
[17:53] <bro> ErJeeB: have you tried to upgrade to 9.04? Alt+2: "update-manager -d"
[17:54] <Aayush> how could i create VCD from .dat files in ubuntu ... brasero gives this error:  "it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins"
[17:54] <ErJeeB> don't hacve an internet connection so cabn't update
[17:54] <bro> ErJeeB:the new version upgrade should also be available in update manager [menu]
[17:54] <ping0> how could i creat a ramdisk in ubntu ?
[17:54] <ping0> ubuntu *
[17:54] <bro> ErJeeB: ok
[17:54] <bastid_raZor> tim167: yeah that file isn't showing anything as to why.. that i can see
[17:55] <tim167> bastid_raZor: hmm ok...
[17:55] <TheBrian> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and Intel AMT technology. Intel AMT provides an IDE Interface which has a virtual cd-rom and disk drive. When I run "lspci", I see the device in the list and that no driver is loaded for it. Is there some way I can load a generic IDE driver for the device? Thanks!
[17:56] <bastid_raZor> tim167: possibly look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log that is more verbose
[17:56] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i did get dual screen to work with TwinView, but then SyncToVBlank doesn't work, that's why i try with separate x windows...
[17:56] <bastid_raZor> tim167: they are CRT's?
[17:56] <mrb427> does anyone know how I can update from octave v3.0.0 to v3.0.1
[17:56] <levene> would it be a really Bad Idea to update the nvidia driver by downloading it from nvidia.com?
[17:56] <tim167> bastid_raZor: no, two flatpanels
[17:57] <userone> bastid_raZor: mine wont, so i have been trying to find a way of 'forcing' ubuntu to charge the battery. its absolutey brand new and works perfectly under xp, so its not a hardware problem.
[17:57] <bastid_raZor> tim167: you shouldn't need that then
[17:57] <tim167> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.com/m780242cc
[17:57] <bastid_raZor> userone: i don't have any ideas on how to force it.
[17:58] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ah, i can check again, but last tile i tried, with twinview, i got tearing, because SyncToVBlank doesnt work in that mode
[17:59] <userone> bastid_raZor: i know how to force a discharge, byut i dont hink this will work to charge? # echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/force_discharge
[17:59] <bastid_raZor> tim167: are you using compiz? but normally nvidia does well with 3d and dual monitors.
[17:59] <mgv1> hi, how can i check kde if i'm using gnome?
[18:00] <andrerobot> mgv1, if you see on the top left of your screen the following: "Applications Places System", you are using GNOME
[18:00] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i dont think i use compiz, i have the desktop plain, without any effects
[18:01] <tim167> bastid_raZor: but i get tearing in openGL windows
 but how do i swhich to kde?
[18:01] <bastid_raZor> tim167: system>preferences>appearances>visual tab ..
[18:01] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i mean, i got tearing when using TwinView
[18:01] <Mathias-S> Hey, using Ubuntu for the first time. After installing the graphics driver (nvidia) and configuring dual screen, I noticed that almost everything in the "panel" at the top is hidden. I only see the sound icon and the username/shutdown button, but the application, places, system menus and the clock are hidden. I can still click on them, but I don't know what I'm clicking since the icons/text is hidden. Any suggestions?
[18:01] <mgv1> and also. how can i make an encrypted container? with truecrypt only?
[18:01] <neekers> i have ubuntu 9.04 on VirtualBox and I created a 5GB size. I'm getting messages like "no more disk space" when I try to copy files to another directory. I havent hardly put anything in to Unbuntu, how could it be running out of disk space? is there something i can do?
[18:01] <tim167> bastid_raZor: yes, but i turned all effects off, i don't need those...or do they have to be on for openGL to work ??
[18:02] <TheBrian> neekers: try running "df -h" and see what it says
[18:02] <Quasar1048> Any at all have an answer?
[18:02] <jrib> neekers: Accessories -> Disk Usage Analyzer, just expand your virtual drive in vbox
[18:02] <bastid_raZor> tim167: have you tried a different driver? i notice on one of my boxes that i can't go past .176 driver or it acts loopy
[18:02] <Quasar1048> anyone*
[18:02] <jrib> !helpme | Quasar1048
[18:02] <andrerobot> mgv, i don't know how you can do that
[18:02] <neekers> ok
[18:02] <mgv1> ok
[18:02] <tim167> bastid_raZor: you mean an older nvidia driver ?
[18:02] <tim167> bastid_raZor: i have a recent card, GTX 260...
[18:03] <sipior> Quasar1048: tricky problem. what time does your computer think it is? (date and time)
[18:03] <mgv1> 1. how can i make an encrypted container? with truecrypt only? 2. how can i switch from gnome to kde?
[18:03] <Quasar1048> Err... no offense, but the bot is this channel is... off on its judgment...
[18:03] <omniuni> mgv1: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" will install the KDE desktop
[18:04] <Quasar1048> sipior: well, it varies... FF tells me one thing, but then one of my addons say another... let me check.
[18:04] <omniuni> mgv1: how and what do you want encrypted? a partition? or just a zip file?
[18:05] <Quasar1048> sipior: Okay, Surfcanyon says that the cert is invalid until 2/11/09 6:00 PM
[18:05] <switchgir{[H]}> hi any views on how this monitor LG W2253TQ-PF 22 in Full HD 1080p LCD Monitor w/Auto Bright Sensor (Refurbished) with an ATI card running ubuntu?
[18:05] <bastid_raZor> tim167: pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:05] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ok...
[18:06] <sipior> Quasar1048: okay, but what is the current time and date of your system?
[18:06] <bastid_raZor> tim167: there is an application that can do this easily.. pastebinit
[18:06] <Quasar1048> sipior: Come to think of it... I did take out my RAM to give my board a cleaning-dusty- perhaps I put them back into the wrong slots? WOuld that cause this?
[18:06] <tim167> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.com/m72085be9
 i want to encrypt few files and access them often
[18:06] <Quasar1048> sipior: Sept 17, 12:06pm. And I had to set it there, because I reset the mobo jumper(hardware installation problems)
[18:06] <tim167> ah, good to know :)
[18:06] <qnix> hi ppl, why do I have this perl problem: [unknown] calling Getopt::Std::getopts ... the perl-modules is well installed and I can see the file with `find`:/usr/share/perl/5.8.8/getopts.pl
 and also, i can't type the password for the kde
[18:07] <Quasar1048> which is why I think the times may not match...
[18:07] <omniuni> mgv1: it will work, you just need to type it and press enter. it won'
[18:07] <sipior> Quasar1048: 2009? (that's not an idle question...)
[18:07] <omniuni> it will not indicate that it is registering characters
[18:07] <rigel> is there some way to execute a script upon connection to a particular SSID?
[18:07] <neekers> TheBrian: wow... /dev/sda1             4.7G  4.5G   28K 100% /
[18:07] <Quasar1048> sipior: Yes... 2009.
[18:07] <omniuni> mgv1: you can also install the package though synaptic if you like
[18:07] <Quasar1048> It is set at the right time
[18:07] <TheBrian>  neekers: then it is correct, your disk is full : )
[18:08] <neekers> heh
 package for the kde? i can't type the password while it's asking for that
[18:08] <race321> french
[18:08] <Quasar1048> Oh... wait... I just found something useful in my cache pages...
[18:08] <neekers> TheBrian: all i have installed is eclipse... what could be taking up so much space?
[18:08] <race321> i m french
[18:08] <race321> hello
[18:08] <nibbler_> !fr race321
[18:09] <race321> yes
 ok i could type it at the end
[18:09] <race321> what is forum french
[18:09] <race321> please
[18:09] <qnix> race321: #ubuntu-fr ?
[18:09] <race321> yes
[18:09] <race321> thx
[18:09] <race321> qnix
[18:09] <qnix> pas de trouble
[18:09] <FloodBot2> race321: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <neekers> TheBrian: maybe a better question is, is there a way i can free up some space?
[18:09] <qnix> ;)
[18:09] <TheBrian> neekers: not sure... probably partially eclipse and partially the files you are copying
[18:09] <sipior> Quasar1048: hmm. i'm going to have to mull this over. unfortunately, it's the end of the day for me; best of luck getting your problem sorted (it's quite a head-scratcher)
[18:10] <Quasar1048> sipior: Um... I think i just fixed it... I went to about:config and looked thigns over. I saw that browser.xul.error_pages.enabled was set to false.
[18:10] <TheBrian> neekers: best solution is to have a bigger partition probably.. not sure about specific ways to clear up temp files and things
[18:10] <sipior> Quasar1048: and how did that happen?
[18:10] <Quasar1048> And I remembered that the browswer needs that in order to use SSl. CHanged it to "true"
[18:10] <neekers> boy... i can do that but would take hours...
[18:11] <neekers> hmm
[18:11] <TheBrian> neekers: to set up an image and install ubuntu? wouldn't take more than 30 mins or so I would think? no?
[18:11] <Quasar1048> ...seems to work now, the errors not showing up. And.. I'm really not sure how that happened...
[18:11] <Quasar1048> lol
[18:11] <bastid_raZor> tim167: in the Xorg log it is showing failed metamodes.. and it is reverting to nvidia-auto-select which you can set inside nvidia-settings
[18:11] <TheBrian> neekers: might be possible to expand the drive, but I would think that would be much harder.. you'd have to ask someone else
[18:11] <sipior> Quasar1048: bizarre...well, file it away for next time i suppose...
[18:11] <neekers> TheBrian: i have openfire installed also and i writing some plugins for that... just a lot of setup
[18:11] <TheBrian> neekers: ah
[18:11] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ok...i don't completely get it..any idea what i can do about that ?
[18:12] <mgv1> what is the red line in xchat that apears often?
[18:12] <neekers> but openfire was only a 50Mb download...
[18:12] <Quasar1048> sipior: Yeah, will do... I was wondering... because the error seemed so silly to me, haha. Thanks for the help anyway!
[18:12] <Quasar1048> need to find out what I did to make it change, though...
[18:13] <jrib> neekers: can't you expand the virtualbox drive?
[18:13] <mgv1> how do i install truecrypt?
[18:13] <Quasar1048> syslog time, I guess... anyway, byes!
[18:13] <neekers> jrib: i'm not sure yet, googling now
[18:13] <pitput> how can I install logmein on ubuntu 9.04?
[18:14] <Aayush> how could i create VCD from .dat files in ubuntu ... brasero gives this error:  "it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins"
[18:15] <tim167> bastid_raZor:  i see that the metamodes don't contain my exact monitor resolution...
[18:15] <cfr34x> mgv1: download it from truecrypt.org, the are providing .deb packages
[18:15] <coz_> pitput,   upi might want to try vnc    its not quite as simple as logmein but it does have the same funtionality
[18:15] <Aayush> how could i create VCD from .dat files in ubuntu ... brasero gives this error:  "it is not possible to write with the current set of plugins"
[18:15] <omniuni> cfr34x: yes, that should work well for mgv1
[18:15] <olinuxx> yep'
[18:16] <bastid_raZor> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209474  tim167  .. adding something like this to your xorg.conf to tell it what to use.
[18:16] <coz_> pitput,  or take a look here http://www.go4expert.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12162
[18:16] <tim167> bastid_raZor:  i can add meta modes in nvidia-settings, no ?
[18:17] <bastid_raZor> tim167: yes you can
 is it the best way to create encrypted areas?
[18:17] <coz_> pitput,   what I would do is google   ubuntu logmein  and see what options are available
[18:18] <coz_> pitput,  or try  FreeNX   but I have not used these
[18:18] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ok, i'll try that and come back here later if it fails, thank a lot for helping !
[18:18] <bastid_raZor> tim167: i have to run.. 2 children demand attention. good luck.
[18:18] <tim167> bastid_raZor: ok thank bye
[18:18] <tim167> s
[18:18] <pitput> coz_, you think vnc is good?
[18:18] <cfr34x> mgv1: don't know if it is the best, but it always worked for me (using it with file containers and partitions)
[18:19] <bastid_raZor> tim167: good luck
[18:19] <cfedde> vnc is better than buyinga plane tickt so you can get to the console.
[18:19] <coz_> pitbac23,  it is yes it should do as well as logmein   however I dont use any of these applications often so  if you are in doubt  you want to read more about them and other alternatives for linux   also
[18:19] <coz_> pitput,  I would go to the ##linux channel and perhaps discuss this there....someone may have a better alternative for you :)
[18:19] <TheBrian> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and Intel AMT. Intel AMT provides an IDE Interface which has a virtual cd-rom and disk drive. When I run "lspci", I see the device in the list and that no driver is loaded for it. Is there some way I can load a generic IDE driver for the device? Thanks!
[18:19] <coz_> pitput,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[18:20] <pitput> thanks a lot coz_
[18:21] <neekers> wow, i just ran apt-get clean and it freed up 354MB
[18:21] <coz_> pitput,  no problem :) let me know if any of those alternatives  work for you
[18:21] <neekers> that should keep me going until i can create a bigger virtualbox
[18:21] <pitput> neekers, what does that clean exactly?
[18:22] <neekers> pitput: it erases downloaded archive files
 hello i have a problem with the mailing assistant in openoffice
[18:22] <jazzzz> can someone help?
[18:23] <arand> jazzzz: specify problem and if anyone knows, they'll hopefully answer.
[18:24] <neekers> TheBrian: thanks for your help
[18:24] <jazzzz> when i send the mail withe the mailing assistant, one mail box is full. the program stop to send everymail after the problem with this box
[18:24] <jazzzz> i'd like to continue send the mail enven if there is a problem with one adress
[18:25] <jazzzz> it use to work before
[18:26] <natewiebe13_> anyone have the font "flux" or know of a free one?
[18:26] <natewiebe13_> flux is used for the python logo
[18:27] <jazzzz> no one???
[18:28] <iceroot> natewiebe13_: http://www.google.de/search?q=flux+font+free
[18:28] <jiohdi> I have z7 or 7zip installed, how to I get it integrated so it shows up in the rt clk menus for extract here?
[18:28] <natewiebe13_> iceroot: already checked
[18:28] <linuxguy2009> Im having trouble finding an offical support doc for building a deb from manually downloaded source. Is there an official doc or can someone recomend a reliable reference source?
[18:29] <jiohdi> linuxguy2009: look in distro for linux from scratch... they have a thick manual
[18:29] <n-iCe> hi
[18:29] <jiohdi> distrowatch that is
[18:29] <linuxguy2009> ok thanks
[18:29] <Pici> linuxguy2009: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
[18:30] <TheBrian> neekers: sure, trying to help some while I try to get some help : )
[18:34] <invisible-pro> what does Ubuntu mean ?
[18:35] <jrib> !ubuntu | invisible-pro
[18:35] <jrib> hrm
[18:35] <Pici> invisible-pro: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[18:36] <jrib> invisible-pro: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu-name.html there you are
[18:36] <invisible-pro> thankz
[18:37] <terje> !ubuntu | list
[18:37] <terje> meh
[18:37] <terje> I already knew that
[18:40] <zxd> Hi
[18:40] <theCompanion> yo
[18:41] <zxd> why in jaunty is firefox 3.5.2 still called shiretoko
[18:41] <Pici> !ff35 | zxd
[18:41] <tonii> !zfs
[18:42] <zxd> Ok I see
[18:44] <m3F> hi!
[18:44] <zxd> hi
[18:44] <m3F> does anybody know why i cannot move files from my data partitions to the trash?
[18:45] <m3F> hi Zap-W
[18:45] <TeLe> is there a tool to create an iso to make a personalized ubuntu install?
[18:46] <legend2440> TeLe: http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/remastersystool.html
[18:47] <TeLe> ok thank you very much
[18:47] <DJones> !remaster | TeLe
[18:48] <Je> !ops niko spam
[18:48] <Je> Elles sont o├╣ les jolies putes comme avant ?
[18:48] <JohnCDI> looking to get a wireless card that works well with ubuntu ive got a dell laptop right now with the onboard bcm 4306 which works like garbage wondering if anyone could recommend a card
[18:49] <Je> J'ai envie de baiser un bon petit vagin
[18:49] <Je> Qui mouille bien rien que pour moi
[18:49] <LjL> Je: stop it.
[18:49] <m3F> how do i set my partitions to have a trash space?
[18:49] <Je> LjL quoi ?
[18:49] <Je> Parle moi en fran├¦ais espece de bot mal r├®gl├®
[18:49] <LjL> Je: tu sais quoi.
[18:50] <Je> LjL quoi ?
[18:50] <Je> H├® c'est quoi ├¦a bandes d'encul├® ?
[18:51] <diavolo77> salut
[18:51] <neekers> heh
[18:51] <T3HCH> so whats going on
[18:52] <T3HCH> whoami
[18:52] <webbb82> i  have a weird screen flicker its totally random and flickers maybe once every 3-5 mins any clue why?
[18:53] <T3HCH> um...is your cable securely connected?
[18:54] <eFfeM> hi, my bluetooth daemon does not start and if I type bluetoothd -d  it immediately exists
[18:54] <zebastian> i got an m2 2gb card with a usb adapter which i use as a flash drive, can i copy hardy onto it and install it into a netbook or do i have to  DL some sort off bootable image specific to  flash drives?
[18:54] <eFfeM> how can i diagnose this
[18:54] <ShaneN> I'm running into these odd (X11 related, it appears) errors when using tightvncserver: http://pastebin.com/d2f9b1028 . Any ideas on to fix this?
[18:54] <ShaneN> s/on/on how
[18:55] <ubuntu_> good day everyone, is voice chat possible with pidgin 2.5.5   ???
[18:56] <grawity> ubuntu_: No, you'll need 2.6.0 or newer.
[18:56] <grawity> ubuntu_: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ and update!
[18:57] <bro_> ubuntu_, no, but 9.10 will be shipped with emphaty which will support voice/video
[18:59] <bro>   
[18:59] <something132> btw
[19:00] <something132> how to partition on ubuntu, NOT for ubuntu please help
[19:00] <something132> :]
[19:00] <zilleplus> use Gpartition
[19:00] <DJones> !gparted | something132
[19:00] <zilleplus> yea Gparted
[19:01] <zilleplus> don't know so good the name because using backtrack
[19:01] <bro> something132, install and use gparted
[19:01] <zilleplus> normaly its on live cd someting
[19:01] <ubuntu_> grawity how to have pidgin 2.6 in ubuntu hardy 8.04 ?
[19:01] <webbb82> what is ubuntu moblin
[19:01] <DJones> something132: You can use gparted to change partitions etc for most formats as long as your not modifying a mounted partition
[19:02] <grawity> ubuntu_: I gave you a link already.
[19:02] <yellabs> test
[19:02] <grawity> ubuntu_: And that link has instructions, and also it says: "oice and video support is only built on Jaunty (9.04) and up."
[19:02] <tuxattack> !ubottu
[19:03] <ubuntu_> grawity yes but how to build on 9.04 ?
[19:03] <grawity> ubuntu_: On 9.04, just follow the instructions.
[19:04] <ubuntu_> no that instruction  has been tested
[19:04] <ubuntu_> in 9.04
[19:04] <GNUsNotUnix> hi
[19:04] <ubuntu_> but did not answer
[19:04] <grawity> ubuntu_: And it has worked fine for me.
[19:04] <GNUsNotUnix> can someone give me step bystep guide how to install ubuntu lunix?
[19:04] <ubuntu_> do you mean this 2 command
[19:05] <duffydack> I upgraded to grub 2 in 9.04 and it boots fine, but I just notice something while its booting that says "unable...something....last boot...something" ?  anyone know what it is, or what log I check to find it.
[19:05] <krejustin1979> i cant get java or adobe flash to run on my ubuntu
[19:05] <krejustin1979>  everytime i run them my firefox crashes
[19:05] <jrib> GNUsNotUnix: 1) put disk in 2) reboot 3) install
[19:05] <krejustin1979> can someone help?
[19:05] <duffydack> GNUsNotUnix, howtoforge.com
[19:05] <ubuntu_> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com \     67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[19:05] <ubuntu_> and
[19:05] <ubuntu_> echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu \     `lsb_release --short --codename` main | \
[19:05] <ubuntu_>     sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/pidgin-ppa.list
[19:05] <ubuntu_> ?
[19:05] <tuxattack> i need some help about ftp.suppose i have 3 machines..I am sitting on 1st and i can download a file from second and have permissions to upload on 3rd.Is there any way to send that file directly from 2nd machine to 3rd without downloading it to 1st machine?I dont have direct acces to 2nd and 3rd machine..
[19:05] <Wizards> hello my Ubuntu freezes alot sometimes and I was wondering is there any command like windows ctrl+alt+del to like troubleshoot or fixi t? Because I
[19:06] <GNUsNotUnix> ctrl+esc
[19:06] <Wizards> I'm forced to hold the power button and reboot
[19:06] <zilleplus> java yes
[19:06] <n1c0> is old nvidia card still supported in Jaunty ? i got an old Nvidia Geforce 256, NV10, working on debian4 but no proprietary driver detected in ubuntu
[19:06] <grawity> Wizards: First try Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get into a console.
[19:06] <zilleplus> but adobe i think that there is a replacer
[19:06] <ubuntu_> ok
[19:06] <o_portista17> Wizards, ctrl + alt + sysrq + B <- to reboot via kernel
[19:06] <ldlework_> How do  I start a program over SSH terminal so that when I close the SSH terminal the process doesn't die?
[19:07] <Spike1506> IdleOne, screen
[19:07] <jrib> !screen | ldlework_
[19:07] <ubuntu_> grawity those 2 line pasted in consol
[19:07]  * jrib gives Spike1506 a new font
[19:07] <ldlework_> jrib : touche'
[19:07] <Spike1506> :(
[19:08] <n1c0> as anyone succed to install Geforce 256, NV10, into Jaunty ?
[19:08] <n1c0> does *
[19:08] <Spike1506> ty jrib :p
[19:09] <jimmy51_> i've just installed fresh ubuntu 9.04 server.  what do i need to do to make it SSH-able?
[19:09] <n1c0> jimmy51_: openssh-server
[19:09] <Veinor> Anybody in here have an Eee 1005HA or 1008HA, or any other wireless card that's in the Atheros AR9xxx family?
[19:09] <earthling> hi ldlework_ , did you get your xorg issue resolved from yeterday.. ?
[19:09] <iceroot> jimmy51_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[19:09] <Garp> Hi.
[19:09] <ldlework_> earthling: no I ended up reinstalling
[19:10] <earthling> hi ldlework_ , oh... :-( shit happens
[19:10] <jimmy51_> n1c0, iceroot:  i'm surprised that's not included.  hmm..
[19:10] <ubuntu_> grawity i'm now in ubuntu 9.04 and i did the same as that link but yet ubuntu is 2.5.5
[19:10] <jimmy51_> n1c0, iceroot:  ok, it's installed.  is there any config i need to do to enable it?
[19:10] <iceroot> jimmy51_: at server-edition i am also surprised, for the desktop it is ok
[19:10] <erd_erd> someone listen me carefully pls :p   i have a problem with my audio device on ubuntu, i tried many things but i couldnt fix it.  so i installed openSuSE  and  my sound is ok now. So i want to learn which modul used in opensuse for my audio device AND  i want to set this modul to my ubuntu. IS IT possible?   thank you
[19:10] <iceroot> jimmy51_: no enabled by default
[19:10] <ldlework_> earthling: ever seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[19:10] <Daemonax> Anyone here got any idea as to how many hours until the release of 9.10 alpha 6?
[19:10] <jimmy51_> ok, thanks.
[19:11] <iceroot> Daemonax: #ubuntu+1
[19:11] <Garp> Question: what is the most "reboot-like" operation I can remotely perform on an ubuntu system installed on an encrypted device without having to  reenter the passphrase ? Thanks.
[19:11] <jimmy51_> another probably silly question:  is there a preferred ssh client for windows?
[19:11] <iceroot> jimmy51_: putty
[19:11] <n1c0> Garp: ~something
[19:12] <Garp> n1c0: ? I didnt understood.
[19:12] <michLinuxGuy> jimmy51_: You might like cygwin.  You get an ssh client, x11 server, and more.
[19:12] <dragon> There used to be a -i option for who, for finding the idle time. How can I do that in Ubuntu now?
[19:12] <n1c0> Garp: sry me too
[19:12] <ubuntu_> grawity i'm now in ubuntu 9.04 and i did the same as that link but yet pidgin is 2.5.5 ,should pidgin be upgarded to 2.6 with that work ?
[19:13] <jimmy51_> michLinuxGuy: x11 on windows?  can that run KDE or GNOME?
[19:13] <grawity> ubuntu_: follow the instructions - it sats "After doing this, open Update Manager, check for updates"
[19:13] <iceroot> jimmy51_: yes, imo there is also a kde port for windows and compiz too
[19:13] <grawity> michLinuxGuy: I'd say Cygwin is as bad as you can get.
[19:13] <something132> where is gpartition
[19:13] <michLinuxGuy> jimmy51_: The display will be running on Windows.  You can run the process on any machine that speaks X11
[19:13] <thiebaude> !gparted
[19:13] <tgillespie> hi all, is there a way to restart my network over ssh?
[19:14] <Garp> n1c0: "sry" ?
[19:14] <ubuntu_> grawity yes i said that has been done ,but now pidgin is 2.5.5 ,
[19:14] <iceroot> jimmy51_: but for ssh just use putty and not cygwin (overkill)
 thank you
[19:14] <jimmy51_> i'm using it now (quick download!)
[19:14] <jimmy51_> ssh'd in, and installing other packages
[19:14] <mgv1> any help? there is a song played at the background and i don't know how to stop it?
[19:14] <jimmy51_> i wish i'd thought to ask yesterday, because now i've gotta lug a heavy server upstairs again to install open-ssh
[19:14] <jimmy51_> thanks for the help
[19:15] <mgv1> any help?
[19:15] <ubuntu_> grawity yes i said that has been done ,but now pidgin is 2.5.5 ,should system be restarted ?
[19:16] <ubuntu_> grawity am i right in that link there is 2 these commands
[19:16] <Marc_> #ubuntu
[19:16] <ubuntu_> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com \     67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[19:16] <ubuntu_> echo deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu \     `lsb_release --short --codename` main | \
[19:16] <michLinuxGuy> grawity: Cygwin is not as bad as you can get.  Windows is as bad as you can get.
[19:16] <ubuntu_> yes ?
[19:16] <erd_erd> i have a problem with my audio device on ubuntu, i tried many things but i couldnt fix it.  so i installed openSuSE  and  my sound is ok now. So i want to learn which modul used in opensuse for my audio device AND  i want to set this modul to my ubuntu. IS IT possible?   thank you
[19:16] <ubuntu_> they have been pasted in console
[19:16] <bro> !binarydriver
[19:17] <dragon> dragon: use finger
[19:17] <grawity> michLinuxGuy: I like Windows as it is. I also like native applications - UnxUtils, PuTTY, Xming for X11. But Cygwin is not Windows and not Unix. It's a horrible mix of two.
[19:17] <dragon> dragon: oh hey, that worked!
[19:17] <dragon> dragon: thanks!!
[19:17] <dragon> dragon: anytime :)
[19:18] <michLinuxGuy> grawity: You are entitled to your opinion.
[19:18] <dragon> I have a feeling that this room is going off-topic.
[19:18] <dragon> !ot
[19:19] <thiebaude> dragon, yep
[19:19] <mgv1> how do i backup my encryption keys?
[19:20] <dragon> erd_erd: you are going in the right direction. `lsmod` displays the status of kernel modules.
[19:20] <dragon> mgv1: what sort of encryption keys?
[19:20] <Garp> Quetsion (reformulated): I have a machine where botrh screen and keyboard seems not responding. But I can log in by ssh, what do you suggest to re-enable keyboard and screen? It's a laptop that goes under a suspend/unsuspend cycle,n but seems it wasnt right... Thanks.
[19:20] <orgy> hi, i am able to change the brightness of my display using the brightness applet, but not with xbacklight. how could i try to map the keys for changing brightnes?
[19:20] <dragon> Garp: seems like a problem with display. Does it fix when you ssh and `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart`?
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[19:21] <wildc4rd_> evening all
[19:21] <dragon> orgy: You could try writing to the file /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[19:22] <Garp> dragon: I'm using kdm, I fist did a /etc/init./kdm stop, but had to kill it. but it didnt reenabled anything. I'm now killing X and basically most processes. I would like 'telinit 1' but then I would liost the netword
[19:22] <Garp> network
[19:22] <Vinceman> why can SSL protocols at times be disabled?
[19:22] <dragon> orgy: Also do `ls /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/`. Being root (sudo su) might help
[19:22] <Garp> dragon: I tink the problem is deeped: to me, the unsuspend didnt re-initiate the video properly. Can I issue a 'suspend' by CLI ?
[19:23] <MrPiracy> could anyone explain to me why my two Sata II drives transfer files between eachother at 25 MB/s while the Sata II standards say it can get up to 3 GB/s?
[19:23] <mgv1> can anyone help? i deleted my personal key and now imported it but it goes to "other collected keys". how do i return it to place?
[19:23] <dragon> Garp: sudo pm-suspend
[19:23] <laclasse> Garp, try pm-suspend
[19:23] <Garp> Thnaks dragon  and laclasse
[19:24] <Garp> OK? I lost connection with the laptop, lets see if it went to sleep or simply died ;)
[19:24] <dragon> mgv1: you're probably importing the public key - look for the private key.
[19:24] <ddollar> hello.. i am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 on a mac mini.. when it gets to installing grub, it goes to a red screen and says "Executing grub-install (hd0) failed. This is a fatal error"
[19:24] <ddollar> is this a known issue?
[19:24] <Garp> (dead :(
[19:25] <dragon> Garp: dead?
[19:25] <laclasse> Garp, sorry if already mentionned, but did you try the quirks website?
[19:25] <Garp> dragon: I mean: need a reboot
[19:26] <laclasse> Garp, http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/
[19:26] <Garp> laclasse: no, what's that?
[19:26] <mgv1> dragon: where does the private key located? i exported a key and deleted for testing
[19:26] <laclasse> Garp, hushsie is upstream gnome-power-manager
[19:26] <dragon> somewhere in the home directory - try `ls .g*`
[19:26] <Garp> laclasse: Thanks for the link, I'm looking at it.
[19:27] <erd_erd> dragon:
[19:27] <laclasse> Garp, its meant to be simple, just click best answer in your cases on the page
[19:27] <orgy> dragon: you're right, can i change brightness by writing 1/2/3..7 into that file, do you know of any scripts that can handle that?
[19:27] <erd_erd> dragon: could you pls look bottom of this page  http://forum.ubuntu-tr.org/index.php?topic=8917.msg152354#msg152354
[19:27] <zebastian> will the normal hardy iso work to install ubuntu fully in spanish in my friends computer? or do i have to get a different iso?
[19:28] <dragon> orgy: I wrote a script that I'll publish under GPL, probably tonight.
[19:28] <Trijntje> zebastian: same Iso, maybe you'll have to install some extra language packages but you'll get a notification about that
[19:28] <Strife89> zebastian: It should, just select the correct language in the first step of the installation.
[19:28] <duncan> anyone use evolution with their google calendars?
[19:29] <laclasse> zebastian, same iso
[19:29] <orgy> dragon: would be awesome :D! which notebook do you own?
[19:29] <iceroot> !anyone | duncan
[19:29] <Garp> laclasse: a bit too simple, maybe, but worth a look. I'll hev to work on that again.
[19:29] <zebastian> Trijntje: will i have to get an extra cd for that? i am installing to a netbook and it has no cd drive
[19:29] <fabian5003> Hi everyone, can someone help me????
[19:29] <Garp> Thanks for the help everybody
[19:29] <iceroot> !ask | fabian5003
[19:29] <laclasse> zebastian, there are additionnal linguage packages that the system will propose you to install when you first login, they complete the translation of apps, helps and directory names
[19:29] <jimmy51_> i just installed backuppc with apache=ssl
[19:29] <dragon> orgy: If you don't mind waiting a bit, you can check http://www.dragonsblaze.com/ in about 12 hours. Feel free to send me a reminder if I forget :)
[19:30] <jimmy51_> how do i hit the web ui?
[19:30] <dragon> orgy: I got a Toshiba
[19:30] <Nightgeek> Hello everyone, i'm having a problem while launching an application through Wine, my X server immediattly downs... Does anyone know where it could come from ?
[19:30] <zebastian> laclasse: is an extra disk necessary for that? this is a netbook we're talking about here, no cd rom
[19:30] <fabian5003> I have this RTF File that's broken, is there any way to recover it??? Even just the plain text???
[19:30] <Trijntje> zebastian: no, they can all be downloaded
[19:30] <laclasse> fabian5003, hold while we scan your brain to guess your issue ...
[19:30] <orgy> nice dragon, thank you :)
[19:30] <laclasse> zebastian, nope
[19:30] <duncan> I've found that using recurring events in absolution flat out does not work with google integration, and editing recurring events crashes evolution half the time
[19:30] <laclasse> zebastian, but a network connection will pull them from ubuntu repos
[19:30] <zebastian> on a different topic
[19:30] <duncan> er in evolution
[19:30] <laclasse> zebastian, so being connected will help
[19:30] <zebastian> for some reason at this ngo i work with
[19:30] <killahrs> hey im looking for a good,easy ftp client from the add remove function. please help.
[19:31] <zebastian> i can't ever connect to the wireless
[19:31] <fabian5003> Look the RTF text is like this :( : ¼?G─įU▀?-ųŹ½▌┘ļf0 ??1ŁĖża§ü?#ž¶
[19:31] <Spike1506> when adding a 4th account in evolution it only shows 3 :o
[19:31] <laclasse> killahrs, gftp
[19:31] <Trijntje> !ftp | killahrs
[19:31] <Vinceman> how do you know that the creators of the ubuntu team are not after some big big brother scheme?
[19:31] <grawity> killahrs: GNOME already has a build-in FTP client: go to Places --> Connect to Server.
[19:31] <zebastian> even when i enter the correct wep wpa password
[19:31] <zebastian> other computers seem to be able to connect alright
[19:31] <iceroot> Vinceman: open-source
[19:31] <zebastian> macs and windows
[19:31] <zebastian> any idea as to why this might be?
[19:31] <unperson> How do a mount a webdav share from the command line?
[19:31] <Vinceman> I mean, the ubuntu team, not well..
[19:31] <erd_erd> pls someone say me my audio device modul according to output that i paste the bottom of this page.   http://forum.ubuntu-tr.org/index.php?topic=8917.msg152354#msg152354
[19:32] <Vinceman> but since it's open source nobody can hack you? iceroot?
[19:32] <mgv1> there is anyway to restore my private key if i deleted it?
[19:32] <LordLandon> Vinceman: According to prophecy, since it's open  source, anyone can see the code.
[19:32] <zebastian> Trijntje: is a 2gb flashdrive enough to install hardy?
[19:32] <iceroot> !ot | Vinceman
[19:32] <laclasse> zebastian, ever considered UNR ?
[19:32] <fabian5003> Anyone???? :(
[19:33] <abhishek_> yup
[19:33] <abhishek_> ask
[19:33] <zehzinho> Hi, my javac just isn't reading my $CLASSPATH environment variable, does anyone know what it can possibly be? I'm using ubuntu 9.04
[19:33] <abhishek_> yes
[19:33] <zebastian> laclasse: UNR=?
[19:33] <laclasse> fabian5003, no idea how to fix RTF file sorry, not partcularly ubuntu specific too.
[19:33] <grawity> zehzinho: Does 'export CLASSPATH' help?
[19:33] <laclasse> zebastian, Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[19:33] <grawity> zebastian: Hardy is very old, are you sure you want to use it?
[19:33] <xcdfgkjhgcv> Can anyone recommend a good bug detector program for my Eee PC to ensure that my personal conversations aren't being eavesdropped upon?
[19:33] <n1c0> zehzinho: use -classpath to cmdline
[19:33] <fabian5003> OK, thanks... anyway .(
[19:33] <laclasse> zebastian, special build of ubuntu for netbooks
[19:33] <MarderIII> fabian5003: maybe you can run photorec to recover temp file. but indeed not an Ubuntu issue.
[19:33] <zehzinho> grawity, no, 'echo $CLASSPATH' outputs the variable
[19:34] <LordLandon> fabian5003: According to prophecy, try unrtf
[19:34] <grawity> xcdfgkjhgcv: What do you mean by "bug detector"?
[19:34] <abhishek_> for JAVA_HOME u have to set in bash rc file
[19:34] <killahrs> hmm how do i get gftp from the terminal?
[19:34] <grawity> zehzinho: That isn't related to the effects of 'export'...
[19:34] <LordLandon> fabian5003: According to prophecy, it's in the repositories, and apparently converts rtf's to other formats.
[19:34] <fabian5003> unrtf?? Does it work on Windows?
[19:34] <killahrs> no0b
[19:34] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: You know, like they use in James Bond films.
[19:34] <laclasse> zebastian, it installs with a usb key. More here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[19:34] <grawity> xcdfgkjhgcv: Ah that.
[19:34] <zebastian> laclasse. i installed jaunty on my brnad new laptop, i had to tweak to get the graphics driver and sound card to work and when i downgraded to hardy it worked perfectly, no tweaking needed
[19:34] <zebastian> laclasse:  from what i understand this netbook remix is also fairly new
[19:34] <grawity> zehzinho: Bash has two types of variables - internal variables (accessible only by bash itself) and environment variables (accessible by programs you run).
[19:34] <Sirmimer> Hello i got a problem, i got a program that wont really close, and its making my pc lag like shit! Isnt there a way to close it, like "Alt-ctrl-delete" on windows, just for linux??
[19:35] <laclasse> zebastian, its Jaunty ... so not that new... Karmi (9.10) is out in month
[19:35] <laclasse> Karmic*
[19:35] <unperson> Can I mount a webdav share with the mount command?
[19:35] <dragon> !sysrq | Sirmimer
[19:35] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: I'm becoming a bit paranoid, which is making me anxious, and a bug detector program would help lower my anxiety.
[19:35] <unperson> Or perhaps with fusermount?
[19:35] <grawity> Sirmimer: Go to terminal, use 'killall -9 programname'
[19:35] <laclasse> zebastian, check the link about netbook models on that link i gave you
[19:35] <zebastian> laclasse: my point in my laptop, where jaunty should have worked perfect, jaunty sucked, whereas hardy rocks
[19:35] <fabian5003> Ok,  bye everyone, thanks for your help....
[19:35] <killahrs> yo how i use the terminal to get again?
[19:35] <Strife89> Sirmimer: System->Administration->System Monitor
[19:35] <grawity> zehzinho: When you type 'echo $CLASSPATH', bash (not echo) does the variable expansion, which means it'll display internal variables too.
[19:35] <killahrs> i dont remember.-
[19:35] <LordLandon> fabian5003: According to prophecy, why would you ask for something to work on windows in #ubuntu?
[19:35] <laclasse> zebastian, its very hardware specific
[19:35] <dragon> Sirmimer: you could also switch tty using Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login and then kill the bad process.
[19:35] <linuxguy2009> I want to use all free software I currently use Nero Linux for burning and I would like to switch to Brasero. I have been testing Brasero with a CD-RW disc and I try to verify it afterwards. I point it to the hidden checksum file on the disk and I get an error that i dont have permissions to use that drive. What do I need to do?
[19:35] <zehzinho> grawity, '$ env'  also shows CLASSPATH
[19:35] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: I think the government is trying to get as much information about me as possible.
[19:36] <laclasse> zebastian, i have Jaunty here on Lenovo X200s never had an issue
[19:36] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: Logging everything I saw and do.
[19:36] <fabian5003> Because I'm looking everywhere to try to fix this file!!!!
[19:36] <laclasse> zebastian, some mates have nightmares on dell boxes
[19:36] <Sirmimer> It closed now for some reason.. but it was 5 min AFTER i closed the program (after i clicked)
[19:36] <dragon> !sudo | linuxguy2009
[19:36] <fabian5003> Its text is extremely important!!!!
[19:36] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: I want encrypted, camera jammers, bug detectors, get away vehicles, etcetera.
[19:36] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: s/encrypted/encryption/
[19:36] <dragon> Sirmimer: there's also a gnome applet for forcing misbehaving apps to quit instantly.
[19:36] <zebastian> laclasse: it's a hp mini 110 i think
[19:36] <linuxguy2009> dragon: Ok so thats common to have to change Brasero to run with gksudo then?
[19:37] <Sirmimer> strife89: that seems like a windows-alike way thanks =)
[19:37] <grawity> xcdfgkjhgcv: I think Ubuntu has a jbond-kit package in repos. (And if you _are_ serious, go read about 'gpg', PGP, and pidgin-otr.)
[19:37] <fabian5003> The file was deleted from a USB, I recovered but it's broken... it display some weird unicode characters...
[19:37] <killahrs> apt-get. then how do i get gftp?
[19:37] <laclasse> zebastian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP 2133 Mininote
[19:37] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: Unfortunately, none of my friends use OTR, so it's useless. :(
[19:37] <Edgan> I have xubuntu 9.04 installed. I am trying to use audacious to play mp3s. The mpeg audio plugin(MAD) is there, but any local mp3s get added to the playlist as 0:00 length. I do have xubuntu-restricted-extras installed, and the output plugin is set to pulseaudio. I have tried alsa. Ideas?
[19:37] <MarderIII> fabian5003: then it was overwritten..
[19:37] <dragon> linuxguy2009: I don't think it's common, but it might solve your problem. Avoid running it with gksu when you don't need to.
[19:38] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: I wish nm-applet had more persistent and seamless support for VPNs
[19:38] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: It keeps dropping it and not reconnecting. :(
[19:38] <duriantang> hello, any program like zonealarm firewall can block some of my apps connect the internet?
[19:38] <laclasse> Edgan, du -sh file.mp3 reports?
[19:38] <linuxguy2009> dragon: Ok Ill try it again now with gksudo and see if it works.
[19:38] <zebastian> laclasse: ok so it says it works perfectly, that's great
[19:38] <fabian5003> MarderIII, and there's anyway to fix it????
[19:38] <jokerfox> killahrs: apt-cache search gftp && then when you found what you want just do a : apt-get install nameOfProgram.versionnumer
[19:38] <xcdfgkjhgcv> grawity: apt-cache search jbond-kit reports nothing. :(
[19:38] <laclasse> zebastian, check this page before installing
[19:38] <laclasse> click on the bugs too to check they are sorted
[19:38] <iceroot> duriantang: you dont need something like zonealarm on ubuntu/linux
[19:39] <Edgan> laclasse: file file.mp3 reports mp3 audio, so it isn't 0 in length and have tried multiple files. Streaming from internet radio works though.
[19:39] <iceroot> duriantang:  but if you need (dont know why)
[19:39] <iceroot> !ufw | duriantang
[19:39] <grawity> duriantang: Ubuntu, like any other Linux, has a built-in firewall called netfiler. But it cannot do application-based filtering.
[19:39] <grawity> duriantang: But first tell me why do you need that?
[19:39] <Myrtti> grawity: "netfilter"?
[19:39] <Matze_> hey
[19:39] <laclasse> Edgan, umm so local plugins missing? Tried installing all the gstreamer-plugins (particularly the 'ugly' ones) ?
[19:39] <MarderIII> fabian5003: nope. your only chance is to find and recover a temporary file. if that cant be done your file is lost for good.
[19:39] <asifkhursheed> hello guys and gals
[19:40] <zebastian> laclasse: the page you linked me to says the hp mini 110 works perfectly
[19:40] <linuxguy2009> dragon: I still dont have required permissions even with gksudo brasero. Any idea? Does the brasero verify integrity function work?
[19:40] <laclasse> zebastian, indeed
[19:40] <duriantang> graingert: i wine a windows program, it's cracked.
[19:40] <MarderIII> fabian5003: recovererd how?
[19:40] <Edgan> laclasse: It is installed. It is less the plugins are missing, and more the plugin isn't working.
[19:40] <asifkhursheed> i am new to ubuntu. i need some help with oracle
[19:40] <laclasse> Edgan, weird
[19:40] <graingert> duriantang, wtf
[19:40] <grawity> Myrtti: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netfilter -- this is what you control with iptables.
[19:40] <laclasse> Edgan, tried another player?
[19:40] <Edgan> laclasse: mplayer works
[19:40] <iceroot> duriantang: then buy the software, here is no support for cracked software
[19:40] <MarderIII> fabian5003: with "photorec" ?
[19:41] <laclasse> Edgan, eww seems the culprit is audacious
[19:41] <bro> duriantang, ubuntu doesn't have a firewalled installed, all the ports are closed and opened automatically [UPnP] by programs. to manually open/close ports, use Firestarter
[19:41] <grawity> bro: It has, the firewall is just wide open after install.
[19:41] <seidos> !firewall
[19:41] <innomen> Hi all, i have a printer and a network folder shared on an xp machine on my lan, how do i make ubuntu see these things?
[19:41] <innomen> !printer
[19:41] <fabian5003> The recovery program says the file is "Excelent" but when I recovered, it shows those characters anyway. :(
[19:42] <iceroot> !samba | innomen
[19:42] <LordLandon> fabian5003: According to prophecy, then it isn't quite excelent, is it?
[19:42] <asifkhursheed> when i open oracle home page i receive this error message "The requested URL /apex was not found on this server. Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) mod_fastcgi/2.4.6 PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.2 with Suhosin-Patch mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.0 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[19:42] <MrPiracy> if Sata II standards say it can xfer files at 3 gbps, why am i only getting 25 MB/s?
[19:42] <MarderIII> fabian5003: which recovery program?
[19:42] <grawity> innomen: Install samba and system-config-samba.
[19:42] <neekers> anybody know what the heck this means? svn: Repository moved permanently to '/newdir/src/'; please relocate
[19:42] <iceroot> MrPiracy: because your hdd cant do 3gbit/s but the sata 2 cable/bus
[19:42] <laclasse> MrPiracy, because your sata controller needs to be compatible too
[19:42] <innomen> grawity, thank you :)
[19:42] <LordLandon> fabian5003: According to prophecy, try some conversion program, it might get at least some of the plaintext out of it.
[19:42] <fabian5003> Recuva
[19:42] <neekers> when trying to import to subversion
[19:43] <xcdfgkjhgcv> My desktop PC has just frozen, with the HDD thrashing like mad.
[19:43] <laclasse> MrPiracy, you are likely running a sata 300 disk on a sata 150 controller
[19:43] <Veinor> What mini pci-e wireless cards have really good linux compat?
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[19:43] <FloodBot2> fabian5003: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <seidos> MrPiracy: because the device that is connected on SataII my only be capable of 25MB/s, such as a 7200rpm HD
[19:43] <LordLandon> xcdfgkjhgcv: According to prophecy, the government must be attacking it.
[19:43] <LordLandon> O.O
[19:43] <MarderIII> oh boy
[19:43] <neekers> heh
[19:43] <something132> lol
[19:43] <barry1> is there a "device manager" equivalent in Ubuntu Jaunty?  Specifically, how can I reset the graphics drivers to what they were when I fresh installed?   I replaced my radeon 9200 with a broken geforece 5200 fx and back again (installing nvidia drivers then fixing x on boot)
[19:43] <something132> is this some chat now
[19:43] <MarderIII> my fault. encoraged him
[19:43] <something132> and by the way i need help, basically with gparted
[19:43] <xcdfgkjhgcv> barry1: There's the restricted drivers tool.
[19:43] <dragon> !ops | fabian5003
[19:43] <mgv1> any better program than keepassx? why after pasting login information automatically it blinks?
[19:43] <bro> fabian5003, use pastebin, please
[19:44] <Pici> dragon: Yes?
[19:44] <Veinor> mgv1: what do you mean 'blinks'?
[19:44] <asifkhursheed> any oracle user here? plz reply
[19:44] <innomen> ratio of actual flood attempts to people mistakenly nabbed by flooding counter measures 10x56^1043rd to 1
[19:44] <fabian5003> Sorry :( Im a n00b
[19:44] <barry1> xcdfgkjhgcv: the ati drivers are either not restricted or don't show up
[19:44] <something132> struggling with gparted, any channel to visit or help me here?
[19:44] <laclasse> barry1, try jockey-gtk
[19:44] <dragon> Pici: can you see a lot of junk characters up there, or is it just me?
[19:44] <iceroot> asifkhursheed: this is ubuntu-support channel  have a look at #oracle
[19:44] <Pici> dragon: The bot took care of the flood.
 in the task bar it blinks
[19:44] <innomen> has there like EVER been a real takeover attempt on this channel?
[19:44] <dragon> Pici: alright, looked like an alien invasion to me.
[19:44] <barry1> laclasse: is it a package?
[19:44] <asifkhursheed> ok
[19:45] <asifkhursheed> thanks
[19:45] <xcdfgkjhgcv> ikonia: WTF you're an op here?
[19:45] <nithin> share learn evolve
[19:45] <laclasse> barry1, its  a command, should be installed if you are running 9.04
[19:45] <Myrtti> xcdfgkjhgcv: mind your language
[19:45] <MrPiracy> iceroot, laclasse, seidos: i have two Sata II drives (500 gb, 1.5 tb, both 7200 RPM), bot set to II (not I), my mobo is a Gigabyte Q35M
[19:45] <xcdfgkjhgcv> LordLandon: No, I just told it to start a wine game whilst verifying torrent data.
[19:45] <barry1> laclasse: I'll try it now. Thanks for the help
[19:45] <Veinor> mgv1: task bar? I've never seen it hit the task bar, it usually minimizes into the notification area
[19:45] <laclasse> MrPiracy, whats your sata controller?
[19:46] <MrPiracy> iceroot, laclasse, seidos: i am x-fering files between them right now ... about 300 gb, and it's taking forever
[19:46] <laclasse> MrPiracy, lspci should tell you. Intel chipset? 945?
[19:46] <MrPiracy> laclasse: Core2Duo 775
[19:46] <linuxguy2009> Anyone else use Brasero for burning and can verify if "verify-integrity" feature works? Ver 2.26.1 installed here.
[19:46] <barry1> laclasse: Thankyou
[19:46] <laclasse> MrPiracy, intel 945 is sata 150 (sata I), intel 965 is sata II (300)
[19:46] <fabian5003> Look! Here's the plain text... http://paste.ubuntu.com/273018/ I need to recover it to its real characters.
[19:46] <laclasse> barry1, np
[19:47] <laclasse> MrPiracy, thats a processor, you need to find the sata chipset / controller
[19:47] <MrPiracy> laclasse: how do i check that?
 keepassx is always in the task bar in ubuntu
[19:47] <laclasse> MrPiracy, sudo lspci
[19:47] <angmar> ?
[19:47] <MrPiracy> laclasse: ok, brb
[19:47] <neglesaks> anyoen know when alpha6 is online? http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha6 is 404 atm
[19:47] <laclasse> MrPiracy, do not paste that in the channel you will be kicked
[19:48] <MrPiracy> laclasse: i wont
[19:48] <killahrs> im such a no0b.. how di i get the ftp in the terminal to open a folder, then to send it/upload, dir etc. i dunno how i write. uh e:? or  please help.
[19:48] <Veinor> mgv1: by task bar do you mean the thing in the upper right?
[19:48] <laclasse> MrPiracy, for example, mine: 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
[19:48] <thecommutist> neglesaks: try to download through torrent, link available at distrowatch
[19:48] <neglesaks> thank you
[19:49] <fabian5003> http://paste.ubuntu.com/273018/ Anyone???? :(
[19:49] <polz> is anyone else having problems with their computer hanging upon boot since a recent karmic dist-upgrade?
[19:49] <dragon> !karmic | polz
[19:49] <thecommutist> killahrs: what is it exactly that you are trying to do?
[19:50] <MrPiracy> laclasse: how fast does it go for you?
[19:50] <trism> fabian5003: need a clue what the file was supposed to be, and why it is scrambled
[19:50] <killahrs> hi, im trying to acsess my public html folder and upload a file from an extrenal harddrive in the terminal.
[19:50] <nobreakmaibam> hi :)
[19:50] <nobreakmaibam> how to view webcam in aMSN in ubunntu
[19:51] <fabian5003> trism: Is a RTF File. But's broken... the original text must be in Spanish. Help!!!
[19:51] <killahrs> i logged inn tho.
[19:51] <ph33r> could anyone help with a compiz/video card problem ?
[19:51] <nobreakmaibam> ??? i cannot view fren's cam :(?????????????/
[19:51] <ph33r> hi I am using jaunty (ubuntu 9.04), there is an immense lag when I enable compiz, using UXA solves that problem but there is a memory leak in that, uses the swap and ram completely in 4-5 hours, graphics card is Intel 945, could anyone guide me where I am going wrong ?
[19:51] <nobreakmaibam> in aMSN
[19:52] <laclasse> MrPiracy, quite fast ... this is a quite recent laptop (2 months) and i use SSD drives
 no but like any other opened program
[19:52] <jimmy51_> i just installed a package, removed it, and tried to reinstall
[19:52] <jimmy51_> now it won't install
[19:52] <laclasse> MrPiracy, is that machine dual booting windows?
[19:52] <laclasse> MrPiracy, check in the BIOS of the box that you are using SATA -> AHCI
[19:52] <jimmy51_> i'm getting "dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown user `backuppc' in statoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)"
[19:52] <Veinor> mgv1: hm. try going into extras -> settings and checking 'show system tray icon' and its two suboptions
[19:52] <thecommutist> killahrs: ok the simplest procedure would be, go to Places > Connect to Server, select Service Type as FTP with login, enter the server address & user name, this will open a folder view at your server location
[19:52] <jimmy51_> what do i do about that?
[19:53] <MrPiracy> laclasse:  yes, i multi booting actually
[19:53] <laclasse> MrPiracy, if you are using compatible mode (rather than AHCI) it will lag
[19:53] <laclasse> MrPiracy, however switching modes now might kill your windows install
[19:53] <killahrs> places? im running and old version of ubuntu thecommutist.
[19:53] <MrPiracy> laclasse: hmmmmm yes, maybe i did the compatible thing ... should i set it back to AHCI?
[19:53] <laclasse> MrPiracy, ^
[19:53] <innomen> grawity, what was the samab command again? my buffer got erased, samba just finished installing
[19:53] <innomen> samba*
[19:54] <thecommutist> killahrs: Places is right besides Applications, which version are you using?
[19:54] <MrPiracy> laclasse: why? its windows 7, it cant handle that?
[19:54] <grawity> innomen: Actually, just samba should be enough to make sharing work.
[19:54] <killahrs> the one for ps3
[19:54] <laclasse> MrPiracy, it should be however, changing this modes changes the underlying device the drive is presented with
[19:54] <laclasse> MrPiracy, meaning Windows might not 'see' the drive anymore
 thank you maybe i will try it later now ive to solve many things like why im not sure whether im smart or stupid
[19:55] <Veinor> ok
[19:55] <thecommutist> killahrs: oh ok, and right now u have logged into your server ftp through the command line?
[19:55] <laclasse> MrPiracy, win7 should hadle that, never tested.
[19:55] <zebastian> laclasse: you still there?
[19:55] <killahrs> man this version has major bugs.
[19:55] <MrPiracy> laclasse: in that case, all i gotta do is switch back, rite?
[19:55] <killahrs> yeah
[19:55] <laclasse> MrPiracy, you could try :)
[19:55] <laclasse> zebastian, yes not for long tho
[19:55] <pradeep> i have added a nautilus script in .gnome/nautilus-scripts folder. Now when i right click on the desktop there is not option called scripts comming in the dropdown menu. what do i do
[19:55] <laclasse> MrPiracy, correct
[19:55] <thecommutist> killahrs: ok can u can use the scp command to copy/upload any file
[19:55] <MrPiracy> laclasse: well, ill do it as soon as the transfer finishes ... it's a new drive and i really expected it to be a looooot faster than that
[19:56] <killahrs> termial is working good yes.
[19:56] <innomen> grawity, the install process returned some errors such as "tdb_fetch_uint32 failed for field 10"
[19:56] <killahrs> it asks for directory
[19:56] <laclasse> MrPiracy, if all fails, look into a bit of tuniing with hdparm
[19:56] <pradeep> i have added a nautilus script in .gnome/nautilus-scripts folder. Now when i right click on the desktop there is not option called scripts comming in the dropdown menu. what do i do
[19:56] <zebastian> laclasse: check this out, jaunty has the following issues with the UNR Speakers don't work out-of-box. Wired nic (atl1e) doesn't work out of the box either. Broadcom WLAN requires closed drivers that are supported in Ubuntu out-of-box, but may cause problems with other distros
[19:56] <zebastian> laclasse: whereas jaunty     * Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 Karmic:
[19:56] <zebastian> While the Karmic version is in Alpha Testing with the opportunity to have frequent crashes, it does however "just work" with everything supported without tweaking. Wired nic works nicely. Sound works nicely. Everything else appears to work as far as i can tell.
[19:56] <MrPiracy> laclasse: is it in synaptics?
[19:56] <laclasse> zebastian, yup,
[19:57] <zebastian> laclasse: so i download karmic instead?
[19:57] <zebastian>  it's about to be released anyway no?
[19:57] <laclasse> MrPiracy, should be installed already, need to be root, and it is DANGEROUS, so read man hdparm BEFORE. You were prevented.
[19:57] <pradeep> please answer my query anyone
[19:57] <laclasse> zebastian, seems a good idea
[19:57]  * thiebaude gets my built computer next week
[19:57] <laclasse> zebastian, a bit bleeding edge, but worth the try
[19:57] <fabian5003> trism???
[19:57] <MrPiracy> laclasse: well, i better leave it alone then
[19:58] <thecommutist> killahrs: can u paste the error message please
[19:58] <laclasse> zebastian, Karmic will be released next month, so not much to wait
[19:58] <TeLe> pradeep: wait for an update to nautilus
[19:58] <zebastian> laclasse: i can't find the url to download the karmic UNR
[19:58] <laclasse> MrPiracy, hdparm -i and -I are safe and give you info
[19:58] <innomen> grawity i attempt to browse my windows network on which sevral things are shared, and i get "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[19:58] <laclasse> zebastian, hehe
[19:58] <pradeep> TeLe: It happens automatically is it
[19:58] <laclasse> zebastian, 2 ticks
[19:58] <killahrs> (local-file)
[19:58] <zebastian> 2 ticks?
[19:58] <TeLe> pradeep: what version of nautilus?
[19:59] <something132> help, drive locked for gparted
[19:59] <pradeep> TeLe: I use Ubuntu 9.04
[19:59] <killahrs> but im still not in the folder public_html, man this is hard. at least now.
[19:59] <invisible-pro> pradeep: old.
[19:59] <laclasse> zebastian, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook-remix/daily-live/current/
[19:59] <thecommutist> killahrs: what command are you using to transfer the file?
[19:59] <laclasse> zebastian, enjoy
[19:59] <killahrs> i used send
[19:59] <zebastian> thanx
[19:59] <thecommutist> killahrs: try using put
[19:59] <TeLe> pradeep: i asked what version of nautilus lol not ubuntu
[19:59] <laclasse> zebastian, 2 ticks = wait a bit
[19:59] <pradeep> TeLe: 2.26.2
[19:59] <rent0n> I've got one question: how do i understand wich verion of a specific package will be present in karmic?
[20:00] <killahrs> ok, but how to open a dir inside the ftp
[20:00] <thiebaude> !karmic
[20:00] <pradeep> TeLe: :-)
[20:00] <zebastian> laclasse: that will work installed from usb too right?
[20:00] <innomen> "There were no print shares found.  Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration."
[20:00] <pradeep> TeLe: 2.26.2
[20:00] <innomen> I have no system>admin>firewall
[20:00] <rent0n>  I mean in jaunty the tint2 package is 0.6, so i expected to find 0.7 in karmic but if i look for tint2 on packages.ubuntu.com it says tint2 will be 0.6 in karmic
[20:00] <laclasse> zebastian, download the iso, then on your ubuntu box go to System -> Administration -> USB disk creator
[20:00] <grawity> innomen: Try smbclient -L yourwindowsbox
[20:00] <something132> erhm can i partition my main drive through gparted?
[20:01] <killahrs> put public_html
[20:01] <laclasse> zebastian, insert usb key, point the iso, click ok, wait, and boot the netbook with the usb key
[20:01] <rent0n> so i just wanted to know if this is a defintive choice
[20:01] <killahrs> ?
[20:01] <rent0n> or maybe it is possible that you will put the 0.7 version before releasing karmic
[20:01] <TeLe> pradeep: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[20:01] <zebastian> laclasse: i got image writer not usb disk creater
[20:01] <zebastian> will that work too?
[20:01] <laclasse> zebastian, apt-get install usb-creator
[20:01] <thiebaude> rent0n, maybe someone in #ubuntu+1 might know that
[20:01] <thecommutist> killahrs: pwd will tell you the current directory
[20:01] <killahrs> i gotto just try, thanx for the help tho..
[20:02] <killahrs>  "/" is your current location
[20:02] <pradeep> TeLe: Thank you. Is the stable version of karmic available
[20:02] <killahrs> so.. im like. maan...
[20:02] <TeLe> pradeep: one month
[20:02] <laclasse> pradeep, Karmic is not released yet
[20:03] <innomen> grawity, i think i need ot do soem more general reading, i dont know what "yourwindowsbox" is to be replaced by
[20:03] <grawity> The IP address (or hostname) of your Windows computer.
[20:04] <Pici> !karmic
[20:04] <pradeep> TeLe: is it safe to use the alpha version?
[20:04] <thecommutist> killahrs: change to the required directory by using the cd command
[20:04] <tyler_d> I am getting an error in rapidsvn, list is freezing it almost right after login...
[20:04] <laclasse> zebastian, once you get unr karmic installed, be amazed cause it looks good (i think ;-)), do not forget to report bugs / issues in launchpad that will help
[20:04] <thecommutist> killahrs: and then use the put command to copy file into that directory
[20:04] <killahrs> hey.. im in
[20:04] <zebastian> laclasse: that karmic's for my buddy who speaks spanish only
[20:04] <TeLe> pradeep: alpha 6 is scheduled to be released today at some point
[20:04] <thiebaude> laclasse, log-in is nice too
[20:05] <killahrs> o.k so how do i upload?
[20:05] <devD> packages in ubuntu are not updated, what to do. I am here from fedora.
[20:05] <guest2> hey anybody know how to get the microphone on the laptop to work?
[20:05] <laclasse> zebastian, hehe right :)
[20:05] <zebastian> laclasse: i'm happy with hardy, i got the mac os x leopard look with the avant dock
[20:05] <thecommutist> killahrs: use the put command to copy file into that directory
[20:05] <laclasse> zebastian, interested to know why your machine hates Jaunty too
[20:05] <FloridaGuy> ? in gnome the network connection icon on the gnome panel has a red (x) in it...if i click edit connection it shows nothing in it...show how do i still have an internet connection
[20:05] <devD> after how long we will get firefox 3.5
[20:05] <laclasse> nothing wrong with hardy but interesting techs in jaunty
[20:05] <thecommutist> hey devD, nice nick! :-)
[20:05] <KosiNuss-> hi, i've got a problem with icecc. when i try to compile using /usr/bin/icecc it doesn't seem to work. there isn't even a iceccd.log. what could be wrong?
[20:06] <thiebaude> devD, in 9.10
[20:06] <zebastian> laclasse: the ati drivers wouldn't work and i had to change a script to get sound at all and anothe script to be able to connect my cellphone and camera, none of these problems came up with hardy
[20:06] <killahrs> i got this message: (local-file)    I dunno how.
[20:06] <laclasse> zebastian, sure, what i mean is .... what machine is it?
[20:07] <thecommutist> killahrs: put (name of the file), for example, put xyz
[20:07] <devD> thecommutist, you are praising my nick , it means you know what the bollywood is.
[20:07] <killahrs> but (local-file
[20:07] <thecommutist> devD: absolutely, i love that movie!
[20:08] <laclasse> devD, firefox 3.5 is in jaunty
[20:08] <killahrs> but it is on a local disc, sorry type o
[20:08] <guest2> hey anybody know how to get the microphone on the laptop to work?
[20:08] <killahrs> i mean an external.
[20:08] <jiohdi> is there a way to make the number lock activate on boot up?
[20:08] <laclasse> devD, sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[20:08] <devD> laclasse, I am using jaunty , its updated too but cant see firefox 3.5
[20:08] <laclasse> devD ^
[20:09] <thecommutist> killahrs: then give entire path, for example, if it located in /home/user on your local disc, then put /home/user/xyz
[20:09] <zebastian> laclasse: compaq presario CQ40-32LA, AMD sempron,
[20:09] <killahrs> two seconds :)
[20:09] <devD> laclasse, ok so it does not update all packages if I do only sudo apt-get update
[20:09] <laclasse> zebastian, will be interesting to report those issues or post them on the web / personnal page
[20:09] <laclasse> devD, no
[20:09] <laclasse> devD, no that is not the cause
[20:09] <zebastian> laclasse: if i use wget -c will the iso download faster?
[20:10] <zebastian> instead of clicking
[20:10] <laclasse> devD, jaunty was shipped with 3.1 so it keeps it in there, but offers also a newer version (3.5) side by side
[20:10] <devD> laclasse, I mostly use fedora and yum update , update all packages
[20:10] <laclasse> devD, if you do not specify 3.5 you will get the same one
[20:10] <laclasse> devD, not always .... even on fedora
[20:11] <devD> laclasse, ok, so what about pidgin
[20:11] <laclasse> devD, see autofs vs autofs5 for example
[20:11] <FloridaGuy> ? in gnome the network connection icon on the gnome panel has a red (x) in it...if i click edit connection it shows nothing in it...show how do i still have an internet connection
[20:11] <zebastian> laclasse: not to seem pushy but i'm already 10% in and i don't want to have to cancel it far into the download, will wget -c download faster than clickign from the web or is basically the same thing?
[20:11] <devD> laclasse, pidgin has launched video support too, can I get too ?
[20:11] <laclasse> zebastian, same thing
[20:12] <TheBrian> Hi. I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and Intel AMT. Intel AMT provides an IDE Interface which has a virtual cd-rom and disk drive. When I run "lspci", I see the device in the list and that no driver is loaded for it. Is there some way I can load a generic IDE driver for the device? Thanks!
[20:12] <grawity> devD: If you're using Jaunty, http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ has instructions.
[20:12] <laclasse> devD, yes, install newer pidgin from a PPA
[20:12] <gartral> hello all, i have an intresting setup, i want to use my mobo's on-board graphics hardware to have a second screen
[20:12] <devD> ok
[20:12] <laclasse> devD, read about PPA here: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[20:12] <FloridaGuy> anyone here...been asking same ? for 2 hrs
[20:12] <JohannesSM64> using 9.04: if i delete the desktop folder from the home folder, everything i have in the home folder shows on the desktop, and even if i recreate the desktop folder, i don't get the expected behavior
[20:13] <jimmy51_> bah
[20:13] <RogersArm> Is anyone familiar with airsnort/aircrack
[20:13] <jimmy51_> my install is fried.
[20:13] <thecommutist> FloridaGuy: are you using wireless?
[20:13] <laclasse> FloridaGuy, coulld come from many things
[20:13] <everton137> Hi, I want compile sqlitedbms, but it complains I have to give sqlite3 library path. Where is it? Isn't /usr/lib/, where I find libsqlite3.so.0?
[20:13] <innomen> grawity, thanks man i have reading to do, thanks for the heads up :)
[20:13] <FloridaGuy> i have wireless router..with a laptop on wireless...but im wired
[20:13] <gartral> JohannesSM64: you need to go into gconf and tell it to use the /home/<user>/Desktop folder agaion
[20:14] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: yeah, caffiene will do that
[20:14] <RogersArm> Could anyone spare some advice on setting up aircrack?
[20:14] <killahrs> 200 PORT command successful
[20:14] <killahrs> 553-Can't open that file: No such file or directory
[20:14] <killahrs> 553 Rename/move failure: No such file or directory
[20:14] <killahrs>  still i wrote the path..
[20:14] <FloodBot2> killahrs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <sander_m_> Hi. Is this the right channel for questions about the Netbook Remix as well?
[20:14] <FloridaGuy> Gnea, lol
[20:14] <Gnea> :)
[20:14] <gartral> sander_m_: yes
[20:14] <gartral> !UBR
[20:15] <gartral> !UNR
[20:15] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: are you actually having an issue getting your wireless to work?
[20:15] <sander_m_> gartral: Thanks
[20:15] <KerberosHades> hi
[20:15] <incorrect> i am pxe installing, i was wondering what LADSPA and DSSI audio plugins gave me?
[20:15] <FloridaGuy> Gnea, no....here's what i was asking.....    in gnome the network connection icon on the gnome panel has a red (x) in it...if i click edit connection it shows nothing in it...show how do i still have an internet connection
[20:16] <sander_m_> I have an EeePC 900 netbook and I want to use the Netbook Remix. However, the UNR wiki page only talks about the Eee 900a and Eee 1000. Does UNR work on the 900?
[20:16] <gartral> !eeebuntu
[20:16] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: hrm, it depends which connection manager you're using - both NetworkManager and wicd have the ability to 'blend in' to the gnome desktop like that
[20:16] <gartral> !eee
[20:17] <Gnea> gartral: #ubuntu-eeepc exists as well
[20:17] <sander_m_> gartral: Thanks again :-)
[20:17] <RogersArm> sudo apt-get update
[20:17] <Gnea> sander_m_: ^^^
[20:17] <JohannesSM64> gartral: thanks
[20:17] <mw44118> Is there a command-line tool to show memory used by a process?
[20:17] <FloridaGuy> but the if i click on connection info ..Error displaying connection info.....no valid active connections found
[20:18] <laclasse> sander_m_, UNR is atom optimized, but i do not see why not. might not be very fast however
[20:18] <sander_m_> Gnea: I know, but IIRC that's a separate project based on UNR. It's not UNR itself
[20:18] <Gnea> sander_m_: hrm, ok
[20:18] <FloridaGuy> Gnea, im useing what ever is default in ubuntu
[20:18] <RogersArm> Could someone who is familiar with Aircrack helpme out?
[20:18] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: that would be NetworkManager. try wicd - it replaces NetworkManager, but it tends to work better
[20:19] <laclasse> sander_m_, here is your answer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Asus Eee900
[20:19] <guilhermeblanco> hi all... a quick weird question: which one is better? adobe-flashplugin or flashplugin-nonfree (-installer)?
[20:19] <Gnea> !ask | RogersArm
[20:19] <FloridaGuy> Gnea, ok will do...i upgraded my internet connection yesterday to 8mbps...and still geting 6 mbps connection
[20:20] <RogersArm> Alright so I am trying to set up aircrack, I found a tutorial on wep crack at http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/ I am having troubleinstalling aircrack and airsnort
[20:20] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: ah, well I've heard spotty things about comcast, but then i've seen weird wireless speeds in ubuntu as well
[20:21] <FloridaGuy> Gnea, im wired..im not wireless
[20:21] <Gnea> FloridaGuy: guess it depends where you get your speedtest done
[20:21] <thecommutist> RogersArm: what is the error that you are getting?
[20:22] <Gnea> that's a rather blatant error
[20:24] <sander_m_> Question: What's the difference between EeeBuntu and EasyPeasy (formerly Ubuntu-eee)? Is there any?
[20:28] <innomen> !printing
[20:29] <innomen> FYI guys that second link "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows" is empty
[20:29] <innomen> someone might want to update the bot
[20:30] <cocoa117>  is there a way to disable user login from tty/console?
[20:30] <Recursive> Does Xubuntu have ndiswrapper upon initial install?
[20:32] <ddollar> i would like to install ubuntu on a mac mini.. it will be the o msdos partitiona table
[20:32] <ddollar> wow.. thanks irc client..   it will be the only os on the machine (a server).. when i get to the grub installation i get a failure that i believe (from googling) is related to the drive being EFI/GPT.. how can i convert back to a normal partition table type
[20:33] <devD> volume is very low, I am using jaunty
[20:35] <Recursive> Does Xubuntu have ndiswrapper upon initial install?
[20:38] <rigel> is there some way to execute a script upon connection to a particular SSID?
[20:39] <Recursive> Hello? Is ndiswrapper installed by default when you first install Ubuntu?
[20:40] <thecommutist> Recursive: no
[20:40] <Recursive> OK, thanks
[20:41] <Recursive> There was a ndiswrapper.ko file somewhere in the filesystem, so I was confused
[20:41] <thecommutist> Recursive: in which directory?
[20:43] <spaceninja> why can't I maximize inkscape?
[20:43] <Recursive> thecommutist: /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/ubuntu/ndiswrapper
[20:44] <AbyssV3> Would anyone here see a problem with chmod 700'ing home directories? (and the skel directory, for future users) ?
[20:44] <Kirsch> hey guys, i use simplifymedia on my Ubuntu Server, I would like to have the server program run at startup but I don't have an init script for it, is there any way  to have Ubuntu just run a shell script on start?
[20:44] <valadares> hey anybody can help me with some openwrt.org issue?
[20:44] <dragon> what's the best alternative of MS Exchange for Ubuntu?
[20:44] <grawity> dragon: Server or client?
[20:44] <dragon> !anyone | valadares
[20:45] <dragon> grawity: client
[20:45] <gletob> How do you access your ubuntu install from the Live CD?  Right now I'm on the live cd and need a terminal that runs inside of my system is that possible?
[20:45] <ikonia> dragon: there really isn't one in reality, you need to use combos of products to make a server with similar functionality
[20:45] <valadares> sorry
[20:45] <Flannel> AbyssV3: Why don't you want group permissions?
[20:45] <grawity> dragon: Evolution kind of supports Exchange, but only through its OWA thing.
[20:45] <ikonia> grawity: I think he's on about a server
[20:45] <dragon> ikonia: i'd be happy if i could get the calendar working
[20:45] <AbyssV3> Flannel: Group permissions isn't so bad, I'm more concerned with the everyone having rx
[20:45] <ikonia> dragon: look at sunbird and caldev
[20:46] <valadares> I can't finish any of my installations because the server where the firmware seems to be down, but it's been two days already!
[20:46] <dragon> grawity: I tried that, but this server is 2007, so evolution didn't work. evolution-mapi is buggy and incomplete.
[20:46] <AbyssV3> Flannel: In that case, is there anything wrong with 750 ?
[20:46] <karlp> what's the "right" way of mounting filesystems from another ubuntu machine?  In the past I had machineA with samba shares, and machine B ran windows
[20:46] <karlp> I've tried sshfs, but it's not as fast as the samba shares were
[20:46] <ikonia> dragon: do you want a client or server ?
[20:46] <karlp> and samba feels even slower
[20:46] <grawity> karlp: NFS, maybe?
[20:46] <dragon> ikonia: alright, i'll check those out. I want a client.
[20:46] <killahrs> linux is the best!
[20:46] <Flannel> AbyssV3: "wrong" is a badway to put it.  You can do whatever you'd like, you'll just have more/less funcitonality.
[20:46] <grawity> dragon: In that case, all you have is IMAP for mail.
[20:46] <gletob> No one knows how to access my ubuntu system from the live cd?
[20:46] <karlp> where's NFS set up?
[20:46] <ikonia> dragon: ignore my advice then, I thought you wanted a server
[20:46] <Flannel> AbyssV3: What it means is that people won't be able to use ~/public
[20:46] <Flannel> AbyssV3: What it means is that people won't be able to use ~/public_html
[20:47] <AbyssV3> Flannel: I'm basically just looking to not break anything while providing increased security for myself/users
[20:47] <dragon> ikonia: oh, sunbird sounded like a client though.
[20:47] <valadares> right
[20:47] <AbyssV3> Flannel: My users don't have a ~/public_html set up, so that's not a concern. If I need to do it, I will give them symbolic links to a public folder.
[20:47] <ikonia> dragon: it is, but it can't connect to exchange
[20:47] <linuxviewer> Is there a location other than /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to change the MAC address of the eth0/eth1?  I got a new NIC and it isnt working.
[20:47] <gletob> No one knows?
[20:47] <gletob> Huh
[20:48] <AbyssV3> Flannel: I need to go now, thanks. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to break anything largely.
[20:48] <Flannel> AbyssV3: No, nothing will explode
[20:48] <gletob> I need to get to my ubuntu install from the live cd.
[20:48] <njbair> Is moblin in the ubuntu repos yet?
[20:48] <leaf-sheep> t
[20:48] <neglesaks> a6 still not available :P
[20:48] <dragon> !pm | valadares
[20:49] <DreamersDelight> Hiya, whats a good app to take screenshots with on ubuntu?
[20:49] <leaf-sheep> DreamersDelight: Press PrintScreen -- It should work right away out of the box.
[20:50] <dragon> !pm > valadares
[20:50] <DreamersDelight> dang !!!! :-D
[20:50] <RogersArm> When running sudo apt-get install build-essential i recieve the following errors: Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release.gpg
[20:50] <RogersArm>   Could not connect to packages.freecontrib.org:80 (34.52.53.34), connection timed out
[20:50] <RogersArm> Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/free Translation-en_US
[20:50] <RogersArm>   Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org http:
[20:50] <RogersArm> Err http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper/non-free Translation-en_US
[20:50] <RogersArm>   Unable to connect to packages.freecontrib.org http:
[20:50] <FloodBot2> RogersArm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:50] <dragon> valadares: openwrt.org is working fine.
[20:50] <DreamersDelight> leaf-sheep: thx
[20:50] <valadares> is it?
[20:50] <leaf-sheep> DreamersDelight: Welcome.
[20:50] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Dapper is outdated.
[20:50] <valadares> dragon: I can't do anything
[20:51] <valadares> my downloads stop there, this is what I get from the terminal:
[20:51] <valadares> Resolving downloads.openwrt.org... 78.24.191.177
[20:51] <valadares> Connecting to downloads.openwrt.org|78.24.191.177|:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[20:51] <valadares> Retrying.
[20:51] <leaf-sheep> !pm | RogersArm
[20:51] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Run "lsb_release -a"  -- You'll see that it's outdated.  You want either Hardy or Jaunty.
[20:52] <innomen> Is there a terminal command that will display the ips of all machines on my lan?
[20:52] <RogersArm> much thanks
[20:52] <RogersArm> It appears I have jaunty
[20:52] <hermitcrabred> Hi
[20:52] <jimmy51_> does ubuntu server pre-install apache?
[20:52] <innomen> !lan
[20:53] <innomen> !ip
[20:53] <valadares> could I be in some blacklist or something?
[20:53] <TeLe> jimmy51: no
[20:53] <epl> innomen: you could try arp
[20:54] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: "sudo aptitude install -y pastebinit ; cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" -- Give me the link please.
[20:54] <Gnea> jimmy51_: if you tell it to
[20:54] <epl> innomen: but if your lan is switched not all computers will show up
[20:54] <innomen> epl, thats good enough, thank you :)
[20:54] <RogersArm> @leaf-sheep Reading package lists... Done
[20:54] <RogersArm> Building dependency tree
[20:54] <RogersArm> Reading state information... Done
[20:54] <RogersArm> E: Couldn't find package build-essentialsudo
[20:54] <RogersArm> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:54] <RogersArm> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:54] <FloodBot2> RogersArm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <jimmy51_> TeLe, Gnea:  thanks.  i'm trying to install backuppc, which says it's configuring apache but i can't hit the web ui
[20:55] <ghostlines> hi all, when i press my pc's power button it starts for 2 secs, then it goes off then right back on again
[20:55] <ghostlines> is this normal?
[20:55] <ghostlines> anyone experienced something like this?
[20:55] <innomen> I can see the other computer at smb://192.168.1.101 the printer named "print" shows up as $print how can i add this to my printer list?
[20:55] <neglesaks> ghostlines, that sounds like a problem with your hardware.
[20:56] <grawity> innomen: Printers are added through CUPS. Try system-config-printer
[20:56] <Gnea> ghostlines: for some systems, yes
[20:56] <jimmy51_> i suspect it's because i don't have apache L:)
[20:56] <NENOOO> hi , i have problem with cdrom , i can`t burn iso files
[20:56] <ltcabral_> how do i generate patchs of all files in a folder... something with diff
[20:57] <duffydack> NENOOO, what program are you using
[20:57] <ghostlines> Gnea, ohh k thanks I thought maybe it was something with the power supply
[20:57] <datacrusher> is there a specific ubuntu server channel?
[20:57] <innomen> Grawity: thanks i got it, in the add printer dialog add via URI was what i needed. thanks again captain helpful :P
[20:57] <leaf-sheep> datacrusher: #ubuntu-server
[20:57] <innomen> i'm sure i'll be back :)
[20:57] <NENOOO> duffydack: k3b
[20:57] <NENOOO> duffydack: the problem not in program :\
[20:57] <BlackFate> ltcabral_, http://stephenjungels.com/jungels.net/articles/diff-patch-ten-minutes.html
[20:57] <njbair> Is the Moblin UI available in ubuntu yet?
[20:58] <duffydack> NENOOO, no its not, k3b serves me well.  What errors are you getting then ?
[20:58] <NENOOO> duffydack: wait
[20:58] <RogersArm> @leaf-jack http://pastebin.com/de72e878
[20:58] <NENOOO> duffydack: give me the pastin site
[20:58] <neglesaks> get yoru beers and watch the live updates of bugs ina lpha 6 :D http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[20:58] <duffydack> !pastebin | NENOOO
[20:59] <rixtr66> hi all,need to know how to set xchat to another channel?
[20:59] <kasansweat> Does anyone know of a directory comparison tool (like kompare/meld, even diff or a script) that allows you to compare ONLY on filename and filesize -- and not by reading the file? I have two extremely large mp3 folders to compare, and if it reads each file individually, it will literally take days. Thanks!
[20:59] <NENOOO> duffydack: thanks
[20:59] <neglesaks> kasansweat, does man diff offer you any such options?
[21:00] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Terminal --> "lsb_release -r" said what?
[21:00] <NENOOO> duffydack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/273064/
[21:00] <kasansweat> neglesaks - I don't believe so, but I'm not 100% sure.
[21:00] <RogersArm> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu  Description:	Ubuntu 9.04Release:	9.04 Codename:	jaunty
[21:01] <kasansweat> neglesaks - diff's man page is pretty scant, I've also been looking elsewhere.
[21:01] <soreau> ph33r: Your intel memory leak issues are because of the driver, not compiz. And, you should be able to use EXA rendering without compiz being slow. The slowness is caused when you use features that require opengl2.1 like alpha blur and such
[21:01] <NENOOO> duffydack: also when i inrest blank cd , my cd did`t run it :\
[21:01] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Err, I don't know why you have Dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list but that's no longer supported.
[21:01] <RogersArm> What fix is there?
[21:02] <ph33r> soreau: hi man :) yeah I figured, it's because of the intel drivers so I reverted to intrepid drivers for intel in jaunty, seems ok for now :)
[21:02] <Remagen> Hello
[21:02] <duffydack> NENOOO, could it be a media (disc) issue? or speed issue
[21:03] <RogersArm> leaf-sheep: I was following an outdated tutorial which called for the dapper l
[21:03] <ph33r> soreau: I read that intel drivers are being re-written, (like gdm?) so for now, intrepid divers are the best options hehe :)
[21:03] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Generally I don't know what's the appropriate fix for this because you claims to run Jaunty yet you managed to have old Dapper sources.list -- You "skipped" 3 good years right there.
[21:03] <R3cursive> Where is ndiswrapper, I can't find it
[21:03] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Link plz.
[21:03] <R3cursive> I try searching in Synaptic for it, it doesn't show up
[21:03] <NENOOO> duffydack: i use sony for ragular iso = 700 mb and i use tdk dvd for dvd iso :\
[21:03] <R3cursive> I have all the repos enabled
[21:03] <RogersArm> leaf-sheep: http://www.askstudent.com/hacking/how-to-crack-a-wep-key-using-ubuntu/
[21:04] <jian> hehe
[21:04] <Remagen> Does any one know how to unbind a gui app from the terminal that launched it?
[21:04] <NENOOO> duffydack: idon`t think it`s speed issue because i try to burn in many speeds and nothing happen
[21:04] <duffydack> NENOOO, tried the shell way then ?   growisofs -Z /dev/scd0=image.iso
[21:05] <NENOOO> duffydack: yes
[21:05] <NENOOO> duffydack: same thing
[21:05] <sphenxes> I would like to use kalarm for my daily work. My question: must i start kalarm every day to receive my alarm notice. or it works in the background. or how can I activate kalarm in the backgroud?
[21:05] <R3cursive> I've reloaded, and everything... normal packages e.g. nano are showing up, but ndiswrapper is nowhere to be found
[21:05] <galen_> this sounds stupid... but where did a nice gnome UI for the network go in the latest ubuntu? i installed it and tried to setup a system for a friend... i have en0... the link is up... but it can't get a DHCP IP, and the UIs available to be are useless
[21:05] <duffydack> NENOOO, tried any other software?
[21:05] <NENOOO> yes
[21:05] <NENOOO> i tried many software
[21:05] <Remagen> Can any1 see me?
[21:05] <galen_> how am i supposed to do something simple like activate a network connection?
[21:05] <Saladin> Okay, I seem to be having a problem with my xserver... Using a Nvidia graphics card with restricted drivers, I set my resolution to the correct 1360x768, but whenever I restart my machine, the resolution returns to the default resolution of 768xwhatever-it-is... Any ideas? I also saved the config to my xserver.conf file...
[21:06] <galen_> Remagen: yes
[21:06] <R3cursive> Remagen: no
[21:06] <duffydack> NENOOO,  could your writer be knackered then ?
[21:06] <Remagen> lol, just wondering thanks
[21:06] <proctis> Remagen: sure
[21:06] <NENOOO> duffydack: no in windows burn well
[21:06] <duffydack> NENOOO, what ubuntu and how updated is it
[21:06] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: You're probably better off undo everything you did and use LIVECD --> http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html
[21:07] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Also, there are a channel for it too.  #backtrack <-- I believe.
[21:07] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: #remote-exploits, I mean.
[21:07] <NENOOO> duffydack: now i used kubuntu 8.04 , but same problem inside kubuntu 9.04 and ubuntu 9.04
[21:07] <R3cursive> Also, why is help.ubuntu.com down?
[21:07] <leaf-sheep> RogersArm: Correction: #remote-exploit
[21:07] <TeLe> its not
[21:08] <RogersArm> leaf-sheep: thanks, i just had problems mounting bt4 and wanted to try a way through ubuntu but I will try again. thanks!
[21:08] <proctis> hey. I've installed linux mint and one thing i would like to say about that is the first linux with Taste. This is what missed me in other distros. What u think?
[21:08] <R3cursive> I can't load pages on help.ubuntu.com
[21:08] <NENOOO> duffydack: also when i inrest new blank cd , it should run it but nothing happen
[21:08] <Saladin> Okay, I seem to be having a problem with my xserver... Using a Nvidia graphics card with restricted drivers, I set my resolution to the correct 1360x768, but whenever I restart my machine, the resolution returns to the default resolution of 768xwhatever-it-is... Any ideas? I also saved the config to my xserver.conf file...
[21:09] <sphenxes> R3cursive, it is working here
[21:09] <duffydack> NENOOO, I`m lost then.  Have you got wine installed?
[21:09] <TheBrian> Is there any way I can force a driver to load for hardware short of modifying the source?
[21:09] <NENOOO> duffydack: no
[21:11] <Sp0tter> I got a new KVM switch which has a single usb hub cable that goes from comptuer to the device, and then the device has 4 ports..    it works  fine in windows,. but in linux they keyboard works for a second, then it only works every like 10 seconds
[21:11] <Sp0tter> and no mouse
[21:11] <Sp0tter> like they are conflicting somehow
[21:11] <Sp0tter> Can this be fixed?
[21:11] <kirsten> hi everybody
[21:12] <proctis> hi kirsten
[21:12] <Remagen> hey kirsten
[21:12] <kirsten> I'm looking for some people who want to join a mailing list. I'm writing a website and want to have some testers
[21:12] <kirsten> where can I find them?
[21:12] <Remagen> what kind of website?
[21:13] <duffydack> NENOOO,  well as a test you can try using imgburn in wine.  It works I know that much.  Then if it does, well....... I know its not a solution but...
[21:13] <kirsten> A personel one, written in XHTML
[21:13] <proctis> kirsten: give an adress
[21:13] <kirsten> it's not uploaded yet
[21:13] <R3cursive> I'm having trouble compiling ndiswrapper; are there any packages that I should install that ndiswrapper might expect to be installed?
[21:13] <proctis> i see
[21:13] <Underclass_Hero> Which kind of a website is that?
[21:13] <R3cursive> Like source packages or something
[21:13] <Scarra3> Hey everyone
[21:13] <NENOOO> duffydack: mm maybe from the cd
[21:13] <proctis> hello
[21:13] <Wunnymush> hi
[21:13] <NENOOO> duffydack: mabye my os don`t like sony cd :P
[21:14] <Wunnymush> how can i configure grub?
[21:14] <kirsten> Its a webseite about a singer I like; it's more training project
[21:14] <innomen> How do i make a desktop link to an smb link? right click make link says unsupported, is it not possible to make a shortcut to an smb link?
[21:14] <Deiu> Hello!
[21:14] <trijntje> !grub | Wunnymush
[21:14] <kirsten> I want to write a goob design for it anyway, so I could use some advice
[21:14] <jedc> !hi | Deiu
[21:15] <Deiu> Is there a different 64-bit version for 9.10 alpha 5 that I can download?
[21:15] <NENOOO> duffydack: anyway thanks :) brb
[21:15] <Deiu> I can only see the i386 and amd64 ones
[21:15] <_pHI_> hey, is there a way to start an xterm with a certain environment variable set? Can I pass a parameter to xterm? I don't want to do "VAR=VALUE xterm" but rather "xterm --setEnvironmentVariable" or similar... any ideas are greatly appreciated
[21:15] <duffydack> NENOOO, you can use a dvd to write a cd iso ... try your dvd
[21:15] <innomen> Deiu, what are you after? why is amd insufficent?
[21:15] <kirsten> What I'm looking for are actually just people using the site by browsing around on it, to check wheter it works and what they want to have different on it. I want to make the coding by myself, really
[21:16] <jophish> is it possible to mirror / on raid 1 across 3 drives?
[21:16] <grawity> _pHI_: The "VAR=VALUE xterm" way you're speaking of is what's usually used. Why exactly cannot you use it?
[21:16] <Deiu> innomen, I have an Intel i7
[21:16] <innomen> Deiu, you still want the amd one, i dont knwo why they call it that
[21:16] <Deiu> innomen, exactly...it's confusing
[21:16] <Deiu> thanks anyway :)
[21:16] <innomen> i'm intel 64 also, just brun the live cd (usb stick just dont work imo)
[21:16] <innomen> and give it a test run
[21:17] <kirsten> so?
[21:17] <innomen> 99% sure you'll be all set
[21:17] <Deiu> innomen, will do!
[21:17] <_pHI_> grawity: i have a 3rd party program that can spawn processes remotely but it doesn't support the "VAR=VAL prog" style... only "prog" and then "command line params" separately
[21:17] <Deiu> seems like upgrading from 9.04 failed
[21:17] <grawity> _pHI_: bash -c "VAR=value exec prog"
[21:17] <_pHI_> grawity: ohh, interesting
[21:17] <_pHI_> let me try
[21:18] <Tim__> Okay so I am going to be installing Ubuntu Server on my older desktop, and I am also going to be installing the X Window System & Xfce
[21:18] <Tim__> However I don't want the GDM to appear at startup
[21:18] <innomen> Deiu, i'm just going to wait till it releases, its like a less than a month away i think, but of course you may have other needs
[21:18] <Tim__> I want to have to start it manually through the terminal
[21:18] <grawity> _pHI_: actually, use sh instead of bash - the effect would be the same, I think.
[21:19] <_pHI_> grawity: are the quotes required?
[21:19] <grawity> Tim__: Use update-rc.d to remove gdm from startup.
[21:19] <Tim__> How would I go about using that?
[21:19] <grawity> _pHI_: Yes, the entire command is a single argument to -c
[21:19] <Tim__> Take a line otu?
[21:19] <Tim__> *out
[21:19] <Deiu> innomen, unfortunately 9.04 kinda fails at sleeping/resuming on my machine (pretty new hardware)
[21:19] <njbair> I installed bluez a while ago and I want to go back to the original Ubuntu bluetooth manager. What is it called?
[21:19] <pop1995258> slt
[21:19] <innomen> Deiu, well see there you go heheh
[21:20] <Deiu> not to mention that the "latest" kernel in 9.04 is .28
[21:20] <Deiu> while .31 has been stable for a while
[21:20] <grawity> Tim__: The easiest way would be ' update-rc.d -f gdm remove ', I think.
[21:20] <Tim__> Oh
[21:20] <innomen> Deiu, i think you can update just the kernel i did that in the 32 bit one to get this wifi card working
[21:20] <_pHI_> grawity: hmm, the exec is giving me troubles... also, "man exec" doesn't show anything
[21:21] <djdarkman> hello, how do I remove a package when this fails? sudo dpkg --force-all -r hso-udev
[21:21] <alokito> nchc.dl.sourceforge.net server down??
[21:21] <Deiu> 32 bit :) What about my 12Gb of ram?
[21:21] <alokito> I can't install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:21] <grawity> _pHI_: 'exec' is a bash's builtin command (it replaces that bash process with your command, instead of spawning it separately), that's why it doesn't have a manpage. Try 'help exec'
[21:21] <innomen> Deiu, well when i moved to 64 it was supported out of the box so i just reinstalled
[21:21] <seidos> I had a problem with gnome-power-yaddayadda not notifying me when my battery was low.  I just run without the battery now, leave the power cord plugged in while working.  suspend works though, thankfully
[21:21] <_pHI_> grawity: thank you!
[21:21] <jophish> I have 3 1.5TB HDDs in a server. I am planning on creating a 8GB partition on each for ubuntu, with the remainder being used for data, the large partitions will be used with software raid 5. however I wish to backup the ubuntu installation across each disk, would using raid 1 on the 8gb partitions work
[21:21] <jophish> or would I need a seperate /boot partition on each disk too
[21:21] <grawity> _pHI_: Or just remove the 'exec' part completely, it's not that much of a difference actually.
[21:21] <innomen> Deiu, up until that time i thought liek you did that 64amd was not for my machine
[21:22] <Deiu> innomen, I'll try a fresh install of alpha 5 for now. See how that goes
[21:22] <innomen> Deiu, probably a better idea anyway
[21:22] <Deiu> yeah
[21:23] <Deiu> innomen, I went as far as trying to install Fedora 11...but it doesn't like ext4 on the boot partition so I fscked it
[21:23] <innomen> Anyone know how to graphically make a network drive in ubuntu? all the google answers are terminal commands, before i get used ot that i want t make absolutly sure there isnt a more user friendly way of doing it
[21:23] <Deiu> innomen, NFS or SMB?
[21:23] <dab_> anyone here using fluxbox on ubuntu?
[21:23] <innomen> Deiu, lol ditto the one thing i wish ubuntu would adopt is the unified addremove/synaptic approach
[21:24] <PSP> my sound dont work
[21:24] <innomen> otherwise fedora was cool excpe that alasa kept crashing pulseaudio and there was apprently no fix
[21:24] <innomen> Deiu, smb
[21:24] <PSP> my sound dont work
[21:24] <Remagen> Any1 know how to unbind a gui program from the terminal that launched it?
[21:24] <Deiu> innomen, afaik smb shares are supported in ubuntu
[21:24] <PSP> nope
[21:25] <PSP> my sound dont work
[21:25] <PSP> my sound dont work in xp it does wen i rolled back driver
[21:25] <grawity> Remagen: Ctrl-Z, "bg", "disown"
[21:25] <Deiu> innomen, just go to Places -> Connect to Server -> choose "windows share"
[21:25] <ViaNocturna> hey anyone able to help with sound coming out of headphones and speakers...although i think theyre seperate soundcards
[21:25] <innomen> Deiu, yea i can see it if i goto it directly smb://192.168.1.101/ but if i want ot save a file to it from firefox its a no go, so i was hoping i could map it to a drive like in windows
[21:25] <PSP> hello anyonce
[21:25] <alokito> can someone ping nchc.dl.sourceforge.ne and see if it works?
[21:25] <grawity> innomen: Look for firefox-gnome, or firefox-gvfs (I don't remember which)
[21:25] <Remagen> test
[21:25] <seidos> PSP: what audio hardware do you have?
[21:26] <PSP> realtek?
[21:26] <ikonia> alokito: pinging it doesn't mean it works
[21:26] <PSP> seidos: im not sure i think its sis
[21:26] <grawity> innomen: Or use the good old mount.cifs
[21:26] <innomen> grawity, will do.
[21:26] <Deiu> too complicated
[21:26] <seidos> PSP: you'll have to find out what hardware you have to find out the problem
[21:26] <innomen> tinkering
[21:26] <PSP> seidos: how tho?
[21:26] <alokito> ikonia, i can't download any file from there either, i.e. sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:26] <Deiu> I always map the windows share through the "connect to server" dialog
[21:26] <seidos> PSP: lspci and lshw
[21:26] <PSP> seidos:not sure wat that is.
[21:26] <ViaNocturna> anyone?
[21:27] <seidos> PSP: type it in a terminal, lspci gives you information from the pci bus
[21:27] <ikonia> alokito: 1.) that doesn't look like an ubuntu repo 2.) that doesn't look like a valid url at the moment
[21:27] <grawity> innomen: GNOME uses a thing called GVFS for the smb:// URLs, which means not all programs support it.
[21:27] <seidos> I'm probably saying that wrong, but something like that
[21:27] <innomen> grawity, ahhh
[21:27] <PSP> seidos;i typed it but notmuch came up
[21:27] <|akaWolf|> Why the image from the webcam turns out green?
[21:27] <seidos> PSP: lshw shows you devices ubuntu is assigning to your hardware
[21:28] <Saladin> Okay, I seem to be having a problem with my xserver... Using a Nvidia graphics card with restricted drivers, I set my resolution to the correct 1360x768, but whenever I restart my machine, the resolution returns to the default resolution of 768xwhatever-it-is... Any ideas? I also saved the config to my xserver.conf file...
[21:28] <seidos> !sound
[21:28] <demonspork> are there any good mail clients that are as clean as Apple Mail? Thunderbird and Evolution just feel too messy and cluttered
[21:28] <grawity> innomen: For Firefox, you can either: a) add GVFS support - firefox-gnome, IIRC; b) open ~/.gvfs/ - GNOME puts the mountpoints there; c) use mount.cifs
[21:28] <jrib> demonspork: mutt and sup :)
[21:28] <alokito> ikonia, what doesn't look like an ubuntu repo? sourceforge isn't ubuntu repo but the ttf-mscorefonts-installer is in the ubuntu repo and it depends on nchc server to download the fonts
[21:28] <PSP> seidos:but thiers noting related to sound on it
[21:28] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:28] <ViaNocturna> anyone able to help with NVidia MCP79 sound? i get sound from headphones AND speakers, messed with the sliders
[21:28] <ikonia> alokito: so why are you trying to apt-get from it if it's not a repo
[21:28] <jrib> demonspork: you can't get cleaner than those two
[21:28] <seidos> PSP: read this sites https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound -
[21:28] <ikonia> alokito: either way, that url is down
[21:29] <innomen> grawity, neither shows up in apt-get, is that what you meant?
[21:29] <demonspork> jrib, but how much sacrifice in functionality
[21:29] <PSP> siedos: ok will do now
[21:29] <jrib> demonspork: none...
[21:29] <innomen> Deiu, he connect to server dialog does nothing, i hit ok and it just goes away
[21:29] <alokito> ikonia, apt-get from where!?? I apt get from ubuntu terminal not from sourceforge! :-P
[21:29] <seidos> !audio | PSP
[21:29] <seidos> PSP: while I figure out what grep and -C to use for audio
[21:29] <grawity> innomen: I'm currently on Arch Linux, so I cannot remember the exact package name. I just know it has 'firefox' in it. Try apt-cache search firefox
[21:29] <|akaWolf|> Please help! Why the image from the webcam turns out green?
[21:29] <innomen> grawity, oky
[21:30] <ikonia> alokito: I thought you where saying you where trying to apt-get a pacakge from that url
[21:30] <test__> hola a todos,
[21:30] <test__> alguien sabe donde puedo descargar la 6a alpha de karmic
[21:30] <jrib> demonspork: personally, I've only used mutt, but I've been meaning to try sup
[21:30] <alokito> ikonia, I don't know why the font installer downloads the fonts from sourceforge, but ttf-mscorefonts-installer IS in ubuntu repo
[21:30] <seidos> !es | test__
[21:30] <sebsebseb> !es |  test__
[21:30] <alokito> ikonia, some missunderstandings I guess :)
[21:30] <PSP> seidos: its working its a miracle!!!!!!!!!!
[21:30] <alokito> check out for urself if u want
[21:30] <seidos> PSP: wow
[21:30] <jrib> PSP: sacrifice a troll!
[21:30] <ikonia> alokito: it downloads it from sourceforge because that's where the file is hosted, it's  in an exe format as I recall
[21:31] <PSP> thank you BUNTU COMMUNITY
[21:31] <alokito> sudo apt-get ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[21:31] <seidos> PSP: meditate
[21:31] <PSP> LOL
[21:31] <alokito> ikonia, hmm maybe
[21:31] <innomen> Deiu, is the end result of your way of connecting a desktop shortcut to the network folder?
[21:32] <innomen> i wish i could just right click something and have mounting options under properties or whatever
[21:33] <stinky> Hello, i am trying to set up a cable modem in ubuntu 9.04, I have roadrunner, but no installer disk... how can I get around this?
[21:33] <ViaNocturna> anyone have any idea if you can change settings for NVidea related audio?
[21:33] <alokito> innomen, do u want to mount a .iso image or something else?
[21:33] <innomen> alokito, an smb link
[21:34] <alokito> innomen, o ok :-|
[21:34] <Aztec_Preacher> hi everyone
[21:34] <innomen> i would not have expected this to be complicated, crazy how reality throws you the unexpected
[21:34] <BikeHelmet> Hey, can anyone point me in the right direction? I just got 4 SATA drives mounted as /media/Storage_A, Storage_B,... C, D; now I want to mount them under /media/NetDrive, so I can share that, but I want to keep their mount points the same so scripts and programs don't screw up. I need to make a symbolic link or something, right?
[21:35] <innomen> BikeHelmet, i would think so, just right click and drag them where you want the links to go
[21:36] <ViaNocturna> anyone able to help?
[21:36] <innomen> ViaNocturna, nope we're closed
[21:36] <innomen> Gah sorry
[21:36] <innomen> <--<grumpy
[21:36] <Aztec_Preacher> lol?
[21:36] <saji> ViaNocturna, whta's your problem?
[21:37] <akaWolf> Why the image from the webcam turns out green?
[21:37] <Saladin> Okay, I seem to be having a problem with my xserver... Using a Nvidia graphics card with restricted drivers, I set my resolution to the correct 1360x768, but whenever I restart my machine, the resolution returns to the default resolution of 768xwhatever-it-is... Any ideas? I also saved the config to my xserver.conf file...
[21:37] <ViaNocturna> saji: well when i plug in my headphones, it still plays through speakers too
[21:37] <bro> akaWolf, that should be related with graphics drivers
[21:38] <dabj01> what's the chan for koala?
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> is ubunyu a good OS?
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> unbuntu*
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> ubuntu***
[21:38] <innomen> *bites tounge*
[21:38] <alokito> Aztec_Preacher, have u used it yet?
, ok let me check that...
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> nah
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> downloading it
[21:38] <dabj01> i've been using only it for a year now, i can't tell you if it's "good", but i can tell you i love it
[21:38] <Aztec_Preacher> windows is gay ;S
[21:38] <BikeHelmet> @Aztec: Yes, but like anything there's a learning curve
[21:38] <FloodBot2> Aztec_Preacher: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <alokito> if u haven't then give it a try and see for urself
[21:38] <alokito> k :)
, what do you mean?
[21:39] <ViaNocturna> thanks...btw, for additional info im being told that audio is done by NVidia MCP79 if it helps
[21:39] <_-RED-_> This is Linux land. In silent nights you can hear the Windows machines rebooting. :D
[21:39] <innomen> Aztec_Preacher, livecd is your friend, amnd then there is wubi, and then there is duelboot, Ubuntu is not the jealous type
[21:39] <dabj01> what's the  irc channel for karmic koala?
[21:39] <something132> gpartition, how to partition hard disc drive?
[21:39] <innomen> dabj01, #ubuntu+1 i think
[21:39] <dabj01> something132, gparted
[21:39] <bro> !partitioning | something123
[21:39] <sebsebseb> !karmic | dabj01
[21:40] <dabj01> thank you
[21:40] <Aztec_Preacher> whas is better
[21:40] <Aztec_Preacher> ubuntu r mac?
[21:40] <something132> ubuntu
[21:41] <innomen> Aztec_Preacher, you can run ubuntu on mac hardware
[21:41] <something132> but back to me, the partitioning isnt help
[21:41] <alokito> Aztec_Preacher, don't comapare one os with another... they are different from each-other in many ways
[21:41] <innomen> Aztec_Preacher, you can also run mac software as a guest os with virtualbox
[21:41] <saji> Aztec_Preacher, do visit the ##ubuntu-beginners chaneel.. It'll help you.
[21:41] <innomen> i think
[21:41] <something132> its gparted itself, i need to partition the hdd on ubuntu and i got no windows,
[21:41] <alokito> bot mac and linux are good in security
[21:42] <something132> ubuntu better for security
[21:42] <alokito> innomen, mac works in vbox? :-/
[21:42] <innomen> alokito, and they taste like chicken
[21:42] <innomen> alokito, someone told me that, don't quote me
[21:42] <BaGy> does anyone know how to set space between icons on Xubuntu?
[21:42] <something132> is it true what the rumours say. linux is the hacking o/s
[21:42] <gianluigisk8> hello
[21:42] <alokito> innomen, well I have tried and failed
[21:43] <innomen> alokito, i wouldent even know where to get the os to play with, i know jack about mac
[21:43] <Scarra3> somting132 it was made by hackers but its not really a hackers os even though they chose to use it more than windows and mac
[21:43] <alokito> somenick, don't be so sure about that, snow leopard is as secure as any linux
[21:43] <innomen> alokito, thats because it IS linux :P
[21:43] <ikonia> innomen: no it's not -
[21:43] <ViaNocturna> its *nix not linux
[21:43] <alokito> innomen, nope its BSD :P
[21:44] <dabj01> something132, gparted is not working for you?
[21:44] <jazzjack> hhh
[21:44] <innomen> ikonia, mac os was not written from scracth to my understanding
[21:44] <alokito> mac was built from freebsd
[21:44] <innomen> i was told it was based on *nix
[21:44] <ikonia> innomen: I didn't say it was, that doesn't make it linux
[21:44] <Saladin> Okay, I seem to be having a problem with my xserver... Using a Nvidia graphics card with restricted drivers, I set my resolution to the correct 1360x768, but whenever I restart my machine, the resolution returns to the default resolution of 768xwhatever-it-is... Any ideas? I also saved the config to my xserver.conf file...
[21:44] <alokito> innomen, well yah its unix
[21:45] <BaGy> does anyone know how to set space between icons on Xubuntu???
[21:45] <something132> nope
[21:45] <something132> gparted doesnt let me partition my main drive
[21:45] <ViaNocturna> saladin...got 9.04?
[21:45] <something132> i bet its not ment to but is it possible to get something that will?
[21:45] <innomen> alokito, so we're quibbling over details :) the vast majority of people think of mac os as its own thing, its not, is all i'm trying to say
[21:45] <Saladin> ViaNocturna: Yeah.
[21:45] <alokito> something132, u can't partition ur main drive with the main system booted
[21:45] <alokito> try from livecd
[21:45] <dabj01> something132, you can't modify a partition that is mounted, and you can't unmount /, are you booting to the livecd?
[21:45] <something132> how do i do it?
[21:46] <something132> nope but i will
[21:46] <ViaNocturna> ok, if you open restricted drivers...do you get two options?
[21:46] <something132> thanks for help
[21:46] <something132> it was obvious i guess
[21:46] <innomen> alokito, that would be cool, if i had enough ram it chould be possible
[21:46] <something132> i just wernt thinking
[21:46] <innomen> should
[21:46] <innomen> should*
[21:46] <alokito> innomen, yah right but its so much customized from the original bsd that now it can be called an independent os
[21:46] <alokito> like windows, it was built from unix too :P
[21:47] <Saladin> ViaNocturna: Yes. One with a bracketed (recommended) I installed that one. Or do you want the two options?
[21:47] <innomen> alokito, which windows, i thought dos was its own thing
[21:47] <neglesaks> it's comiiiing - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/alpha-6/
[21:47] <demonspork> alokito, it wasn't built from unix, it was built from a Dos tree, and along the way they stole some ideas and possibly a little bit of code from unix based stuff
[21:47] <alokito> innomen, not sure about that, google it
[21:48] <ViaNocturna> ok, well i had same problems as you, and i first had the recommended, then switched to the alternative, that didnt work so switched back and badabing badaboom
[21:48] <alokito> demonspork, okk
[21:48] <ViaNocturna> i recommend trying that, trial and error i spose
[21:48] <innomen> anywho i'm still fuzzy on this whole mapping a network drive thing
[21:48] <demonspork> alokito, notice the lack of process control in Windows, that is one of the key components of a unix style OS, and that is why they are so secure
[21:48] <innomen> is it possible though the gnome gui?
[21:48] <alokito> demonspork, hmm
[21:49] <saji> ViaNoturna, a possible fix or workaround is to mute one of it from the Volume control manager.
[21:49] <innomen> demonspork, wasnt xerox in there somewhere?
[21:49] <saji> ViaNocturna,  a possible fix or workaround is to mute one of it from the Volume control manager.
[21:49] <pcfreak30> hello. i have a friend on the phone. he is trying to change his password in root shell via rw init=/bin/bash method. hes getting like root@none but cant type. he had no ps/2 port. so how can he do it. doesnt seem like the usb driver is loading and the ubuntu cd wont boot right.
[21:49] <saji> ViaNocturna, refer http://www.clububuntu.com/2009/01/how-to-fix-sound-comming-from-both.html for more info
[21:50] <ViaNocturna> saji: I tried that, but then the whole thing switches to mute...its either all or none...but interesting is this, i switched off the splash sound...and all is well unless i have headphones in...then it still plays it
[21:50] <ViaNocturna> Will have a look at that, thanks
[21:51] <saji> ViaNocturna, that's fine. Let me know if it works..
[21:51] <gwildor> hmm, seems all thing in startup manager arent gettign started.... anyone know of a better place to put things ?
[21:52] <ViaNocturna> will do, thanks
[21:52] <BaGy> does anyone know how to set space between icons on Xubuntu???  :)))
[21:55] <m3F> nobody answer my questions :(
[21:56] <saji> m3F, what's your problem?
[21:56] <vitek> ? Gparted question, i need to copy windows partition with gparted, but the paste option on my selected partition is disabled. any ideas? thanks
[21:56] <seidos> !uac
[21:56] <rigel> is there some way to execute a script upon connection to a particular SSID?
[21:57] <m3F> hi saji: i wanted to know why i cannot send files to trash for my partitions FAT32 and NTFS
[21:58] <BaGy> m3F try with rm -rf :)
[21:58] <m3F> saji: then i asked about why LogOut sound does not work in Ubuntu since years
[21:58] <gwildor> anyone know why maybe my daemon isnt started when listed in 'startup applications'
[21:58] <something132> have fun talking
[21:58] <something132> i am here
[21:58] <something132> wisest of all
[21:58] <something132> well
[21:58] <something132> i am no longer any help
[21:58] <something132> someone solve their problem?
[21:59] <alba_> oOlaa? xDD
[21:59] <gwildor> coulda....not do that
[21:59] <alba_> hay alguien?
[21:59] <m3F> BaGy: that is not my problem, i say about user level, not executing commands in terminal, i talk about the ability to send files to trash to recover them after if i need them
[21:59] <saji> m3F, ya that's one thing.. Logout sound not working. I had tried to make that work. but als...
[21:59] <saji> something132, are you mad?
[22:00] <BaGy> m3F sorry :)
[22:00] <m3F> saji: i cannot understand how Ubuntu go from version to new version again and again and always with the pseudoability to set LogOut sound and it never works :D
[22:01] <m3F> BaGy: rm -rf is very useful when i need to remove root directories from the terminal, that is not my problem, i know how that works
[22:02] <saji> m3F, But it works fine in Kubuntu. Have you tried that?
[22:02] <gwildor> m3F, try creating a .Trash dir on those dir's
[22:02] <gwildor> maybe .trash
[22:02] <seidos> is linux an operating system?
[22:02] <vitek> ? Gparted question, i need to copy windows partition with gparted, but the paste option on my selected partition is disabled. any ideas? thanks
[22:02] <BaGy> seidos c c c
[22:03] <seidos> BaGy: so a kernel is enough for an operating system?
[22:03] <nils2> hej there! does anyone know, how another fallback language than english can be set?
[22:04] <bobby_> can someone help me make a bootable SD card from an ISO
[22:04] <knasto> I need help with a very strange printing problem. I'm able to to connect to my wirless printer via samba, BUT when I print the job in ubuntu is completed; however, my printer does not print the page, just flashes its lights. Can someone help me with this?
[22:04] <m3F> saji: i am not gonna change of desktop environment just to use the logout :D
[22:04] <gwildor> bobbob1016, unetboootin
[22:05] <BaGy> seidos i do not understand the question?
[22:05] <m3F> saji: i am talking about why it does not work in gnome :)
[22:05] <seidos> BaGy: I must not be phrasing it properly
[22:05] <seidos> BaGy: does linux include the shell?
[22:05] <saji> m3F, ya ubuntu is far better than Kubuntu. and i too like GNOME.
[22:06] <seidos> I should probably google
[22:06] <maheshjr2000> hi
[22:06] <dragonlyre> seidos, are you asking if you have the kernel then you have linux?
[22:06] <maheshjr2000> Im trying to force fsck on the next reboot
[22:06] <bobby_> gwildor: I'm actually running jolicloud right now, my windows setup is borked and I'm on a netbook, so I need to make a windows sd card. I know it's taboo to ask how to install windows from linux, but I have to ask
[22:06] <BaGy> seidos includes shell
[22:06] <maheshjr2000> how do I do it?
[22:07] <gwildor> bobby_, aside from using bartpe. i dont think you can install windows from SD..
[22:07] <seidos> dragonlyre: I was asking if linux = kernel or if linux = operating system
[22:07] <gwildor> bobby_, and what is this jolicloud?
[22:07] <idyle> alright, so for some reason whenever I try to do updates it says everything is up to date, but I know this isn't the case because I reinstalled fresh yesterday and only downloaded like 100 updates or something, and I remember last time I did this I had to update for days before I was all current
[22:08] <gwildor> seidos, GNU Linux = kernel      linux = usually refers to the os....but it is the kernel....
[22:08] <m3F> saji: Kubuntu and KDE still are in development state
[22:08] <seidos> !linux
[22:08] <dragonlyre> seidos so it's one and the same?
[22:08] <gwildor> seidos, ubuntu, fedora, redhat, etc == os
[22:08] <bobby_> gwildor: jolicloud is a lightweight OS for netbooks, runs super fast, most of the apps are web 2.0 apps integrated into the system http://www.jolicloud.com/
[22:08] <TeLe> http://kanyelicio.us/http://www.ubuntu.com/
[22:08] <seidos> dragonlyre: I don't know, that's why I'm asking :P
[22:08] <saji> m3F, What do you mean?
[22:09] <seidos> ah, I should stop saying I'm using linux, and instead say I am using ubuntu
[22:09] <dragonlyre> sedios heh yeah forgot to take your name out before I hit enter
[22:09] <BaGy> dragonlyre that you may know how to set space between icons on Xubuntu?
[22:09] <m3F> saji: i wanted to try Kubuntu Karmic, but K/Ubuntu is trying GRUB2 and i have problems with that
[22:09] <seidos> which makes more sense since gnome != linux
[22:09] <mneptok> m3F: Karmic is in development. Kubuntu 9.04 is not.
[22:09] <gwildor> seidos, if you are using ubuntu, you are using linux..
[22:09] <mneptok> seidos: or use GNU/Linux to describe it
[22:10] <saji> seidos, ya Linux is the Kernel actually. Named after Linus Torvalds who coded it initially.. And even now..
[22:10] <m3F> saji: when i upgraded to KDE4.3 in Kubuntu Jaunty my system broken up
[22:10] <pasword001> #ubuntu-hu
[22:10] <seidos> gwildor: yes, but if I am using linux I'm not necessarily using gnome and ubuntu's packages
[22:10] <ortsvorsteher> !hu
[22:11] <saji> m3F, actually KDE had gone for complete recoding. And it is told to be fully stable. :)
[22:11] <m3F> mneptok: i tried Karmic KDE because Jaunty does not come with KDE 4.3
[22:11] <dragonlyre> bagy I found this in google http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/
[22:11] <xok> hello all...
[22:11] <johnnysks> test - http://www.single-forum.dk - join me home site
[22:11] <xok> I'm unable to install vmware-server-1.0.*
[22:11] <xok> can anyone help?..
[22:11] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: which language is "hu"?
[22:11] <xok> it can't build kernel modules...
[22:11] <ortsvorsteher> iceroot: hungarian :)
[22:12] <xok> anyone please?..
[22:12] <mneptok> ortsvorsteher: Magyar.
[22:12] <mneptok> errr ... iceroot
[22:12] <ortsvorsteher> yes mneptok
[22:12] <soreau> xok: How are you trying to install it?
[22:12] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: ah ok thanks, i never thought about the english words for them
[22:12] <xok> soreau, from *.tar.gz file..
[22:12] <seidos> mneptok: GNU/Linux...how about Ginux? or something.
[22:12] <BaGy> dragonlyre thanks :)
[22:12] <soreau> xok: Why don't you install from package manager?
[22:12] <dragonlyre> BaGy np
[22:12] <mneptok> seidos: the correct term is "GNU/Linux"
[22:12] <ortsvorsteher> me too iceroot, cause i am german ;)
[22:12] <iceroot> ortsvorsteher: dito
[22:12] <xok> soreau, but there is no such thing my package manager...
[22:13] <ortsvorsteher> :D
[22:13] <xok> soreau, and if would, there would be 2.0 version...
[22:13] <seidos> mneptok: I think Ubuntu works better
[22:13] <xok> I want to install 1.0.*
[22:13] <gabriel_> Hi everyone
[22:13] <seidos> mneptok: where does someone get GNU/Linux?
[22:13] <mneptok> seidos: so use that
[22:13]  * xok agrees with mneptok 
[22:13] <gabriel_> I want to know how to check cpu temperature in ubuntu 9.04
[22:13] <mneptok> seidos: usually from the Internet
[22:13] <xok> gabriel_, install htop... :-)
[22:13] <gwildor> seidos, anywhere the linux kernel and GNU tools are available
[22:13] <diskin> I use gnome and run some kde apps, like Yakuake. Suddenly klipboard stopped to work in Yakuake. I tried Konsole, same thing. How that can be cured?
[22:14] <gabriel_> ok
[22:14] <gabriel_> thanks
[22:14] <seidos> is it probable that Ubuntu would ever not be FOSS?
[22:14] <mneptok> xok: why VMware? why not Virtualbox?
[22:14] <mneptok> xok: Vbox is *much* easier to install and configure
[22:14] <xok> mneptok, well, I'm very used to it...
[22:14] <soreau> ! vmware | xok
[22:14] <xok> yes, agree..
[22:15] <mneptok> !info virtualbox-ose
[22:15] <soreau> xok: Did you see those manual installation instructions yet?
[22:15] <xok> but I want to be able to connect to my VMs remotely ( I mean manage them withou RDP or VNC)...
[22:15] <xok> soreau, yes, I did, but didn't help...
[22:15] <gabriel_> ok, I loaded htop but which one is the one that reads cpu temperature?
[22:16] <mneptok> xok: there's a headless mode for Virtualbox
[22:16] <_pHI_> hi! on the command line i can type something like: sh -c "VAR=1 xterm"  ... but I want to put this into a shell script which replaces "VAR=1 xterm" with whatever commands i pass it on the command line.    somehow: sh -c "$@"  in the script doesn't do the trick :( For any ideas i'm very grateful
[22:17] <xok> mneptok, what do you mean?..
[22:17] <gabriel_> Im looking for an easy way to read cpu temperature in ubuntu
[22:17] <xok> mneptok, would I be able to manage my VMs remotely?..
[22:17] <saji> m3F, did you get my private msg?
[22:17] <xok> mneptok, without installing VNC?..
[22:18] <hotmonkeyluv> _pHI_, perhaps if you try asking in #bash or some other scripting channel they will be able to help you better
[22:18] <m3F> yes saji
[22:18] <nobreakmaibam> hw to view others web cam in aMSN in ubuntu
[22:19] <strange> hey guys i have a problem
[22:19] <strange> Setting up alsa-driver-linuxant (1.0.19.2) ...
[22:19] <nobreakmaibam> help me out
[22:19] <strange> Building modules for the 2.6.28-15-generic kernel, please wait...
[22:19] <strange> it hangs there when i run apt-get remove also
[22:19] <strange> alsa*
[22:19] <FloodBot2> strange: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <nobreakmaibam> hw to view others web cam in aMSN in ubuntu
[22:20] <gabriel_> can somebody tell me how to read cpu temperature in ubuntu 9.04?
[22:20] <strange> can i remove that alsa-driver-linuxant from the apt queue or something whenever i run apt it wants to install that pacakge but it will get stuck on it
[22:21] <guest20091> will empathy support msn videochat in ubuntu 9.10?
[22:21] <BlackFate> guest20091, yes
[22:21] <powertool08> gabriel_: check out lm_sensors
[22:21] <komputes> What does one needs to do under Ubuntu to write to the same CDRW in multiple sessions (using wodim or cdrecord from the command line)
[22:22] <m3F> who could say here that OpenOffice is enough to get complete compatibility with Office of Microsoft? :D if Ooo cannot make it Linux is not a good solution for work in office
[22:22] <xok> does virtualbox support remote management?...
[22:22] <guest20091> BlackFate: Wow! great to know that. MSN is very very popular in Brazil and, not having msn videochat was a strong no-go here
[22:22] <gwildor> anyone know why maybe my daemon isnt started when listed in 'startup applications'
[22:22] <BlackFate> m3F, openoffice is not enought? or ms is not compatible enough with oo?
[22:22] <nobreakmaibam> guest???? u wana cht in msn in linux??? used aMSN
[22:22] <nobreakmaibam> :P
[22:22] <nathan7> m3F: It's totally compatible.
[22:23] <nathan7> Amsn is one of the best MSN clients out there.
[22:23] <ortsvorsteher> !u | nobreakmaibam
[22:23] <BlackFate> guest20091, it will support in few days msn video/audio
[22:23] <nathan7> ortsvorsteher: Heh, awesome!
[22:23] <gwildor> m3F, OO is completely compatable with ms office
[22:23] <nathan7> (amsn+webcam is kinda getting me a gf!)
[22:23] <nobreakmaibam> ubottu ok :)
[22:23] <guest20091> nobreakmaibam: i knew that, and a long time ago. But not been a 'default' and supported solution was a drawback
[22:23] <m3F> BlackFate: yeah, right, but, could i wait for Microsoft to solve that problem? :D
[22:24] <Circular> i still can't configure the atheros wifi card to work on jaunty, even with backports modules and the "old" blacklisting, hal disabling and network restart method
[22:24] <m3F> gwildor: i can say that you do not know what you are talking about.
[22:24] <gwildor> m3F, BlackFate  oo will save in office xp format
[22:25] <BlackFate> m3F, see? you should stop thinking like that :P .When i had to cooperate with some friend on a project you are all windows users, i used ms office from xbox
[22:25] <BlackFate> vbox*
[22:25] <seidos> how does someone know I'm away in irssi when I set my away?
[22:25] <saji> !offtopic | m3F
[22:25] <powertool08> xok: Yes, at least the non-free version does, check under the settings for the vm, then display section, then remote display, its a rdp I believe (not the ose version in repos)
[22:25] <gwildor> m3F, i can say that you dont know what your talking about.... i have never had zero problems, with the hundreds of documents i open.
[22:25] <seidos> oh yeah, nobody cares
[22:25] <Circular> all that was on the official guides didn't work, any clue?
[22:25] <seidos> that I'm away that is :)
[22:25] <saji> !offtopic
[22:25] <bmeynell> what's the best way to record myself playing guitar and singing in ubuntu?
[22:25] <BlackFate> bmeynell, cheese
[22:25] <bmeynell> (and preferably a website to archive all my shite)
[22:25] <alin_badila> tuxguitar
[22:26] <m3F> sorry guys, no more about this matter
[22:26] <BlackFate> bmeynell, youtube
[22:26] <alin_badila> record?
[22:26] <alin_badila> sorry
[22:26] <tohuw> bmeynell: ardour
[22:26] <gwildor> m3F, you are telling me that open office doesnt work with ms office documents, or that open office doesnt save in ms format, so ms office users can open it ?
[22:26] <bmeynell> alin_badila: yeah, record -- not upload, and I don't have a webcam yet so it's just audio for now so youtube is outs
[22:26] <tohuw> gwildor: none of those statements atre true
[22:26] <alin_badila> lmms
[22:26] <saji> !offtopic |gwildor
[22:26] <Circular> ooo should be fully compatible with 2007 by now, shouldn't it?
[22:26] <alin_badila> have you tried lmms?
[22:27] <gwildor> wtf
[22:27] <BlackFate> bmeynell, you got a mic?
[22:27] <tohuw> bmeynell: ardour or lmms
[22:27] <tohuw> saji: that isn't really offtopic, per se
[22:27] <bmeynell> cool, checking synaptic for lmms now
[22:27] <BlackFate> bmeynell, or audacity
[22:27] <gwildor> tohuw, are you for real?.... you can be seriouse
[22:27] <gwildor> tohuw, i do both of them daily, how can i do something...not true
[22:27] <saji> tohuw, this is support channel... :)
[22:27] <ziad> is there any way to find the NIC settings (10mbit/100mbit/duplex) without being root/sudo? don't want to change them just find them
[22:28] <tohuw> gwildor: ? I think you misunderstand me. ooo can open MS office, save as msoffice, etc.
[22:28] <bmeynell> damn, you guys know your recording software!
[22:28] <gwildor> tohuw, that is what i said.... and you said its not true
[22:28] <Circular> anyway, atheros card still won't work, iwconfig sees the wireless extension but network manager says it's not managed. tried any and all methods in official guides, nothing worked. working on lastest headers (.15, updated from .11) and it was working great before i upgraded the headers and a couple of libraries
[22:28] <tohuw> gwildor: communications breakdown, let's let it pass
[22:28] <IRC-Monitor-290> Hello, i got a ubuntu hardy isntallation here and i want to upgrade to karmic. Is it better to upgrade to all the missing upgrades or can i go to karmic at once?
[22:29] <gwildor> tohuw, high five
[22:29] <ortsvorsteher> !karmic | IRC-Monitor-290
[22:29] <Flannel> IRC-Monitor-290: You can't upgrade straight from 8.04 to 9.10, you need to go to 8.10, 9.04, then Karmic
[22:29] <bmeynell> BlackFate: I have this headset thing with a mic and headphones (just bought for skype)
[22:29] <tohuw> Has anyone had an issue where the Super key suddenly stopped working for all shortcuts, even after restart? (compiz, microsoft multimedia keyboard [not sure that's relevant in the case])
[22:29] <Flannel> IRC-Monitor-290: and yes, Karmic is alpha software still, and from what I understand, is especially broken at the moment
. karmic is still in Alpha. Hence it may not be stable.
[22:29] <vixus> Hi, I'm trying to get liblo0 on jaunty, but all I can get is liblo0ldbl. I need this library for qtractor.
[22:30] <vixus> Any way of getting the original liblo0?
[22:30] <BlackFate> bmeynell, ardur is good but too complex for normal every usage, but you could check it out. audacity is simpler
[22:30] <gwildor> anyone know why maybe my daemon isnt started when listed in 'startup applications'
[22:30] <soreau> tohtori: Does it start working again if you disable compiz/desktop effects?
[22:30] <saji> tohuw, Superkey still works fine for me. In all those applications..:)
[22:30] <tohuw> bmeynell: totally forgot about audacity, BlackFate is right, try that
[22:30] <IRC-Monitor-290> ok ty so far . Can i over an packetmanager just upgrade one package then? i just need the latest version of a certain software
[22:31] <bmeynell> tohuw, BlackFate, kk just looking for something simple now... opening audacity
[22:31] <diskin> Hi all. I use gnome and run some kde apps, like Yakuake. Suddenly clipboard stopped to work in Yakuake. I tried Konsole, same thing. How that can be cured?
[22:31] <Circular> anyone here knows about wifi atheros cards not working on jaunty?
[22:31] <tohuw> saji: :| it captures the key if i try changing the shortcut, but actual execution does nothing. what's that trick to capture the codes of keystrokes?
, then upgrade that software only.
[22:31] <bmeynell> tohuw, BlackFate, woot! audacity works great! much better than sound recorder!!
[22:31] <BlackFate> :D
[22:31] <saji> tohuw, are you talking about Compiz settings?
[22:32] <tohuw> saji: yes, but also keyboard shortcuts in Gnome
[22:33] <Circular> ok, let's change the question, does anyone here had problems with wifi cards not working in jaunty after some upgrades?
[22:33] <Circular> *did
[22:33] <saji> tohuw, then i didn't understand your problem clearly. IS changing the key-shortcuts not working for you?
[22:33] <Scarra3> Yo
[22:34] <gwildor> i have a dawmon being started in startup applications via gnome.... but it doesnt start, does anyone happen to know why, or perhaps a better spot to list this daemon
[22:35] <tohuw> changing them works, in the sense that it accepts the change. for instance: I open CCSM, I go to general options and change the run command from alt f2 to super r. This change works fine, it picks up that keystroke when I use the capture key button. However, when I actually press super r, it doesn't open the run dialog
[22:35] <frostburn> is there a way to integrate firefox quick searches with gnomedo?
[22:36] <vixus> sigh.. anyone know how to get libvorbisenc on ubuntu?
[22:36] <gwildor> vixus, its not in universe or multiverse?
[22:36] <tohuw> frostburn: there is an opensearch plugin, or there is a direct google search plugin as well. You need to install gnome-do-plugins, and when selelcted plugins, use the option "show all plugins" from the menu
[22:37] <mandyL> hello
[22:37] <vixus> gwildor, there's libvorbisenc2, but qtractor complains about not being able to find libvorbisenc.so.2
[22:37] <saji> !find libvorbisenc
[22:37] <frostburn> tohuw, yeah, i already have that, but it doesn't key on quick searches
[22:37] <mandyL> does anyone here run ubuntu with compiz enabled with a ti radeon video card ?
[22:37] <tohuw> vixus: make a symlink then
[22:37] <vixus> hmm, ok I do have it
[22:37] <soreau> mandyL: Yes
[22:37] <tohuw> mandyL: yes
[22:37] <vixus> /usr/lib/libvorbisenc.so.2
[22:37] <gwildor> vixus, how did you install qtractor ?
[22:37] <vixus> dpkg
[22:38] <vixus> not via apt-get
[22:38] <dead1ock> Does anyone know how to get rid of the problem of flash stealing the sound device and not letting it to be used in other programs such as amarok?
[22:38] <Circular> is there a visual c++ alternative for ubuntu?
[22:38] <tohuw> frostburn: yeah, I don't know of any better solution
[22:38] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | mandyL
[22:38] <mandyL> tohuw:do you have an problems with video playback ?
[22:38] <saji> vixus, so taht's the package you wanted..:)
[22:38] <tohuw> mandyL: what kind of video files?
[22:38] <vixus> saji, sure.. but qtractor says "No such file or directory"
[22:38] <vixus> saji so I don't know where it's looking
[22:39] <soreau> mandyL: You will have problems with video playback if you use the proprietary drivers as it does not support xv
[22:39] <dead1ock> Circular: are you talking about a C++ IDE? or are you talking about the language itself?
[22:39] <mandyL> video as in xvid and divx movies
[22:39] <mandyL> ok
[22:39] <daniel32708> guys, whats the minimum size for a usb key to be used as a boot usb with ubuntu 9.04 32?
[22:39] <soreau> mandyL: What kinds of problems are you having?
[22:39] <tohuw> mandyL: what soreau said is correct
[22:39] <Circular> dead1ock: an IDE for programming in c/c++ using easy-way graphics
[22:39] <vixus> ldd qtractor also says the library wasn't found
[22:39] <gwildor> daniel32708, the size of the CD, if you plan to do it that way.
[22:40] <vixus> ooooh
[22:40] <soreau> ! ide | Circular
[22:40] <tohuw> daniel32708: 648.9 MB using the default CD, smaller if you make your own
[22:40] <vixus> lib32 stuff
[22:40] <dead1ock> Circular: There is CodeBlocks and QtCreator. But CodeBlocks is more like Visual Studio then anything else ive used.
[22:40] <daniel32708> thx
[22:40] <Circular> ok, thanks
[22:40] <mandyL> soreau:when i play videos with compiz enabledthe video flickers alot
[22:41] <seidos> is there a reason why top and system monitor don't show the same stats regarding cpu usage and memory usage?
[22:41] <saji> vixus, maybe it got installed at some other place. Please install it vai apt-get or synaptic. Then it'll work... I think..:)
[22:41] <dead1ock> ! flash | Dead1ock
[22:41] <gwildor> seidos, im pretty sure top only shows user space.
[22:41] <vixus> saji, it's an architechture issue
[22:41] <Pirate_Hunter> I keep getting this message, debug2: channel 0: window 999314 sent adjust 49262, my question is why?
[22:41] <vixus> it wants to look for libs in lib32
[22:41] <vixus> but they're in lib
[22:41] <seidos> gwildor: ahhhh, that makes sense
[22:41] <seidos> gwildor: sorta' kinda'
[22:42] <gwildor> seidos, top also ingores cache, im not sure about system monitor
[22:42] <soreau> mandyL: You will have to use the slow x11 vo driver for your player. The good news is that the open drivers which support xv are now being developed to support a multitude of newer cards since AMD bought ATI and began releasing hw specs
[22:42] <soreau> mandyL: Which card model do you have?
[22:42] <mandyL> radeon hd 4870
[22:42] <seidos> gwildor: system monitor does list Swap
[22:42] <gwildor> seidos, not swap.... cache.
[22:43] <daniel32708> If i create a file, install an app, configure the system, etc  in a live usb, will those files be kept for the next time i boot with the usb?
[22:43] <seidos> gwildor: I'm using 5MiB of 5.8Gib
[22:43] <seidos> gwildor: cpu cache?
[22:43] <gwildor> seidos, lets say your system is using 500mb of ram... well 0nly 300mb of that is actually used by what you are running... the other 200mb is chaced files, to help things open and run faster (basically)
[22:44] <vixus> grr
[22:44] <osubuck> what is the default username and password to login to the live cd ?
[22:44] <tohuw> daniel32708: yes, yes, and it depends
[22:44] <diogo_79> hi
[22:44] <dead1ock> anyone here use gnash?
[22:44] <tohuw> !hello | diogo_79
[22:44] <osubuck> what is the default username and password to login to the live cd ?
[22:44] <tohuw> !anyone | dead1ock
[22:44] <diogo_79> where are installl the applications in ubuntu in windows is c:\program files
[22:44] <Flannel> osubuck: ubuntu, (none)
[22:44] <seidos> gwildor: I don't see cache anywhere in system monitor
[22:45] <osubuck> ok thank you
[22:45] <seidos> gwildor: I think it would make sense to reduce the size of my Swap file.  Is there a way to increase memory cache?
[22:45] <dead1ock> Is gnash any better then the provided adobe flash implementation?
[22:45] <Flannel> osubuck: but, you shouldn't get a login prompt when you boot.  If you do, something might be wrong.
[22:45] <seidos> I have a lot of ram
[22:45] <thiebaude> !gnash
[22:45] <tohuw> diogo_79: it depends. read this: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[22:46] <gwildor> seidos, yes... but i dont know it..... and  i only recommend getting rid of your swap if you need the storage...
[22:46] <thiebaude> dead1ock, do you use it?
[22:46] <seidos> gwildor: I suppose I don't need the storage really
[22:46] <gwildor> seidos, its not hurting anything... and its better to have it, and not need, than to need, and not have
[22:46] <tohuw> seidos: ideally, your swap should be double your RAM
[22:46] <fricatinne> ciao
[22:46] <mandyL> soreau:can compiz run using open source radeon drivers instead of the proprietary drivers ?
[22:46] <gwildor> tohuw, lots of people here are recommending against ram...
[22:46] <gwildor> tohuw, err, swap
[22:46] <seidos> tohuw: it doesn't look like I'm using any of it.  I have 2.0GiB of ram
[22:46] <Tim__> Does anyone know the location of the network set up program in Ubuntu Server 9.04?
[22:47] <Tim__> I forgot to plug in the ethernet cord earlier and forgot
[22:47] <bobby_> anyone know how to get starcraft working
[22:47] <seidos> tohuw: isn't it ideal to avoid using swap if ram can handle the task?
[22:47] <dead1ock> thiebaude, no, which is why im asking if its any better, cause the adobe one is giving me some trouble
[22:47] <caleb_> ifconfig
[22:47] <Tim__> bobby_: WINE
[22:47] <dead1ock> but im getting it right now
[22:47] <soreau> mandyL: Which card do you have? (lspci|grep VGA)
[22:47] <thiebaude> dead1ock, ok
[22:47] <Tim__> Anyone know the auto internet setup program?
[22:47] <tohuw> gwildor: seidos: swap is intelligently used when needed. to not have any available is generally a bad idea
[22:47] <mandyL> soreau:ati radeon hd 4870
[22:48] <Tim__> I have no idea how to manually set up my internet... well I know all the addresses but I am at odds with how to set it up
[22:48] <gwildor> seidos, you will only use swap when you need it, if your ram starts becoming full, it will clear the cache, before it swaps.
[22:48] <gwildor> tohuw, i agree 100%... just saying, some are preaching bad practice around these parts
[22:49] <Tim__> helloo
[22:49] <xor> Hi there,
[22:49] <tohuw> gwildor: for every helpful person, there's someone out there telling you rm -rf /* is the command to boot faster...
[22:49] <soreau> mandyL: The open drivers have preliminary experimental 3D support for your card but probably wont be found in ubuntu till 10.04 release. If you use the open drivers now, they will work but you wont have 3D
[22:49] <seidos> gwildor: oops.  I see my blunder.  top will probably = system monitor
[22:49] <xor> How do we use idx/sub subtitles with totem?
[22:49] <Tim__> I need someone to help me set up the internet on Ubuntu Server v9.04
[22:49] <seidos> gwildor: I ran top on a different system
[22:49] <Flannel> tohuw: Please don't even mention things like that here.
[22:49] <mandyL> soreau:ok
[22:49] <tohuw> Flannel: ok
[22:49] <thiebaude> dead1ock, do you have swfdec installed?
[22:49] <bro> Tim_, what type of internet connection?
[22:49] <tohuw> Tim__: #ubuntu-server
[22:50] <bmeynell> not relevant to ubuntu but you guys know music... what's a good site to upload my custom audio tracks to to share with others (while still giving me control over everything I upload)?
[22:50] <dead1ock> thiebaude, no i was using the adobe provided version
[22:50] <thiebaude> !offtopic | bmeynell
[22:50] <thiebaude> dead1ock, ok, just asking
[22:50] <gwildor> seidos, i really dont know what system monitor will shows, i was just trying to explain why you would see differences.....showing cache and stuff is something you can turn on/off
[22:50] <soreau> mandyL: I am running all the experimental stuff here on my 9600 and let me tell you.. it will be well worth the wait ;)
[22:50] <dead1ock> yea, gnash didnt even work. ill try swfdec next
[22:51] <seidos> gwildor: yeah, top and system monitor are jiving now.  I am connected to another system using ssh, and I was doing top on the remote system while comparing to system monitor on this system
[22:51] <thiebaude> dead1ock, yea gnash had never worked for me
[22:51] <hey_joe> i just installed mdadm, and now my system hangs at an initramfs prompt... no set raids yet.. why is this happening?
[22:51]  * seidos bows his head in shame
[22:51] <fricatinne> ma qualcuno di italiano
[22:51] <diogo_79> tohuw thanks for the help
[22:52] <xor> How do I load subtitles on totem?
[22:52] <hey_joe> any suggestions? is this a known bug? is there a fix?
[22:52] <ortsvorsteher> !it
[22:52] <seidos> I just realized I had a program running that I accidently clicked on, and it's been using 50% cpu for awhile now
[22:52] <gwildor> seidos, hehe, it happens
[22:52] <mandyL> which distro is good for making a home media PC
[22:52] <tohuw> diogo_79: yw
[22:52] <bro> gwildor, http://www.easyscreens.info/?v=4989 [i still think something's wrong with my readings]
[22:53] <seidos> bro: firefox for me is using 144.2 MiB
[22:53] <gwildor> bro, i cant see what you have running, so i couldnt say.... maybe halo3 is running in the background
[22:53] <tchago> Good evening. I'm looking for the most user friendly version of Linux (a "for starters", if there is one). Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[22:53] <tohuw> tchago: www.ubuntu.com
[22:54] <bro> gwildor, xchat, amarok, a terminal, system monitor, pidgin,
[22:54] <seidos> bro: you could paste a screen shot of your processes tab
[22:55] <thiebaude> tchago, ubuntu is pretty easy
[22:55] <moloset> hi there
[22:55] <tchago> tohuw thiebaude thanks, i'll download it. it has the biggest irc channel. ;)
[22:55] <tohuw> bro, or run this in terminal: echo top > ~/top-log and post the contents of top-log (found in your home directory) to pastebin
[22:56] <thiebaude> tchago, yep and the community is the best
[22:56] <tchago> i have knoppix livecd, but it won't recgonize my nic
[22:56] <thiebaude> tchago, which brand?
[22:56] <bro> gwildor, seidos, http://imagebin.org/64292
[22:56] <seidos> tohuw: can you get the same information from top as you can from system monitor?
[22:57] <tchago> thiebaude it's a dell e520, with a intel nic
[22:57] <tchago> (onboard)
[22:57] <thiebaude> tchago, good ole intel
[22:57] <tchago> yup
[22:57] <tchago> lol
[22:57] <xor> How do I load subtitles on Totem?
[22:57] <seidos> bro: here's mine http://imagebin.org/64293
[22:57] <tohuw> seidos: more or less, what information do you need? not to rtfm you, but man top mentions several helpful flags to expand what you're looking for
[22:57] <hey_joe> any experienced ubuntu users here?
[22:58] <moloset> is any more free irc programs on ubuntu so i can install them?
[22:58] <tohuw> !anyone | hey_joe
[22:58] <seidos> tohuw: just wanted to know if it is true.  I'll check man later
[22:58] <thiebaude> !irc
[22:58] <hey_joe> omg
[22:58] <hey_joe> i'll take that as a no.
[22:58] <huwaw69> why is it when i try to logout the login screen won't show up, and when i press ctrl+alt+backspace login screen won't show up also
[22:58] <seidos> tohuw: I'm still not very good at reading man pages for specifics on commands.
[22:58] <moloset> yep
[22:59] <tohuw> moloset: xchat, bitchx, pidgin, and a pile of others
[22:59] <tchago> thiebaude should i get the 9.04 version? can i get dualboot?
[22:59] <huwaw69> why is it when i try to logout the login screen won't show up, and when i press ctrl+alt+backspace login screen won't show up also
[22:59] <diskin> Hi all. I use gnome and run some kde apps, like Yakuake. Suddenly clipboard stopped to work in Yakuake. I tried Konsole, same thing. How that can be cured?
[22:59] <thiebaude> tchago, whatever you want to do
[22:59] <moloset> thanks
[22:59] <tchago> thiebaude, cool. just gotta figure out how, right? lol
[22:59] <jordo2323> IS there a nicer option than Banshee as a music player that uses GTK+ libraries?
[22:59] <novato_br> I never have seen a lot people
[22:59] <novato_br> 1430 ?
[23:00] <tohuw> huwaw69: have you tried restarting?
[23:00] <thiebaude> tchago, good luck with it
[23:00] <bro> gwildor, any command on forcing clearing the cache from RAM?
[23:00] <bro> gwildor, any command on forcing clearing the cache from RAM
[23:00] <Wildbat> how do i switch java to sun-java6 ? i installed it via apt-get but the VM still open-java ? and is eclipse 3.5 avaible in ubuntu??
[23:00] <huwaw69> i tried restarting 2 times tohuw
[23:00] <bro> gwildor, i want to see the differencies
[23:00] <thiebaude> Wildbat, sun-java6-jre
[23:00] <tohuw> huwaw69: are you using GDM, KDM, or... ?
[23:00] <gartral> hello all, i have an intresting setup, i want to use my mobo's on-board graphics hardware to have a second screen
[23:00] <thiebaude> Wildbat, sudo apt-get install
[23:01] <Wildbat> thiebaude: i did
[23:01] <huwaw69> i really have no idea how can i tell tohuw?
[23:01] <thiebaude> Wildbat, un-install the older one
[23:01] <seidos> bro: I don't think you want to clear cache from ram
[23:01] <tohuw> bro: what are you trying to do?
[23:01] <Wildbat> thiebaude: then i fall back to gcj 1.5 or something like that
[23:01] <Wildbat> it*
[23:01] <hey_joe> anyone had experience with mdadm breaking grub with 9.04?
[23:02] <seidos> bro: I think you'll have to close some stuff...
[23:02] <seidos> bro: is system monitor processes sorted by memory?
[23:02] <nibbler> hey_joe: mdadm should be way disconnected from grub issues....
[23:03] <tchago> how much space should i leave on the ubuntu partition, for dual boot? not minimal, but how much is recomended?
[23:03] <hey_joe> it creates a new initrd...
[23:03] <tohuw> huwaw69: are you using Gnome? most likely, you're using GDM then. Also, is your system set to auto-login? check system > administration > login window > security
[23:03] <thiebaude> !dual-boot | tchago
[23:03] <hey_joe> and has now hung my box at the initramfs prompt...
[23:03] <bro> tohuw, system monitor never reported so higher ram usage before. i was running a virtual machine even, and never passed 950MB. now i'm worried with 1.7GB of ram used with very few lite-programs running
[23:03] <hey_joe> this is a stock 9.04 install
[23:03] <tchago> cool, thanks thiebaude
[23:03] <thiebaude> tchago, no problem
[23:03] <nibbler> hey_joe: so grub works... booting fails
[23:03] <huwaw69> nope i didn't auto login this box tohuw
[23:03] <nibbler> laters
[23:03] <tohuw> bro: what does top show?
[23:03] <tchago> i'll be back when things get ugly
[23:04] <bro> seidos, yed i did sort it descending by ram
[23:04] <thiebaude> tchago, you said it not me,lol
[23:04] <hey_joe> i believe it has added an incorrect flag or boot command to the menu.lst
[23:04] <hey_joe> so grub is in fact broken
[23:04] <tohuw> !enter | hey_joe
[23:04] <hey_joe> omg
[23:05] <hey_joe> anyone here over 12?
[23:05] <bro> tohuw, top always tell me my ram is almost fully-used, just 70-80MB of ram free, but i think top reads cached memory too, while system monitor doesn't seem to do that
[23:05]  * nathan7 
[23:05] <gartral> troll...
[23:05] <nathan7> I'm one year over \o/
[23:05] <hey_joe> good one.
[23:05] <thiebaude> tchago, which intel, 810, 815 etc?
[23:05] <seidos> bro: are you using jaunty?
[23:05] <tohuw> hey_joe: there are 1000+ users here at any given time, don't be a nuisance. If you can't come in, ask your question without using several lines, and be polite, go elsewhere.
[23:06] <tchago> thiebaude 825xx 10/100
[23:06] <bro> seidos, yes, but it's the first time it happens to me
[23:06] <tohuw> bro: does it happen every time after restart, right away, or does it build up gradually?
[23:06] <seidos> bro: it would be nice to be able to check
[23:07] <tohuw> bro: and, what is your swap file usage?
[23:07] <guest2> hey anybody know how to get the microphone on the laptop to work?
[23:08] <tohuw> guest2: what laptop model?
[23:08] <guest2> sony vaio vgn-fw31j
[23:08] <guest2> tohuw: sony vaio vgn-fw31j
[23:09] <Wildbat> how do i switch java to sun-java6 ? i installed it via apt-get but the VM still open-java( if i uninstall openJava it fall back to gcj Oo )?  and is eclipse 3.5 avaible in ubuntu??
[23:10] <thiebaude> !java
[23:10] <tohuw> guest2: system > preferences > sound, select your sound card as the device from the popup menu, and use ALSA as the sound capture
[23:10] <bro> tohuw, no i never got that high readings in sys. mon. before. usually ~3-400MB with the same apps running. seidos, what to check?   top reading: mem: 2GB total, 1.9GB used, 100MB free, 900MB total swap, 540MB used swap, 440MB free 160MB cached [more or less]
[23:10] <calaen0> Wildbat, also look at update-alternatives after installing java6
[23:11] <tohuw> Wildbat: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:11] <akn> im trying to get Office 07 on my ubuntu any suggestions? i have a .daa file of Office but i dont know if it will work with linux
[23:12] <bro> tohuw, 1GB is total swap, sorry
[23:12] <Wildbat> calaen0 , tohuw: weeee thnx ~
[23:12] <jshultz> akn: did you try virtualbox with xp?
[23:13] <akn> i mounted it with power ISO on Vista
[23:13] <akn> but i dont know if i can get it with linux
[23:13] <seidos> bro: can you paste your top results to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:13] <jshultz> i doubt office 2007 will install on linxu.
[23:14] <akn> i was told that i does
[23:14] <u19809> hi all, I want my xserver to listen on tcp.  I removed the -nolisten tcp in the /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc but it still starts up with -nolisten.  Any other places I should look for ?
[23:14] <jshultz> there's a version of apple and a version for windows. there is no version for linux that i've ever heard of.
[23:14] <guest2> tohuw: something changed now i get the background noise when i use the record device, but still cant get the sound
[23:15] <bro> seidos: i can't copy from terminal, maybe because it's constantly refreshing. i can take a screenshot again if that helps
[23:15] <seidos> bro: top says I'm using more ram than system monitor - resources tab
[23:15] <tohuw> bro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393176
[23:15] <seidos> bro: are you using cntrl-Shift-c?
[23:16] <seidos> tohuw: thank you for the link
[23:16] <bro> seidos: it doesn't matter, i can't select the readings to begin
[23:16] <seidos> bro: weird
[23:16] <tohuw> bro: echo top > ~/top-file
[23:17] <tessier> Hello all!
[23:18] <tessier> Is it true that Ubuntu does not set a root password and makes you use sudo? Do most server admins set a root password anyway or do you actually just operate on sudo alone?
[23:18] <seidos> tohuw: that didn't work for me.  I just ended up with a file with "top" as the first line
[23:18] <Seeker`> tessier: there is no need to set a root password
[23:18] <tessier> Seeker`: That isn't what I asked. :)
[23:18] <nh2> tessier: it is true and yes, on my servers, I have no root account
[23:18] <dgpj> xubuntu question: for example: if I wanted to change the name of any shortcut under applications>settings how do I do that?
[23:19] <Seeker`> tessier: I believe you cannot log in as root by default, there is no reason to set a password
[23:19] <bro> tohuw, how can i input the command while top is running?
[23:19] <nh2> tessier: you can use sudo -s which drops you into a root shell, you can do anything you could do just as if you logged in as user root
[23:19] <tohuw> seidos: bro: sorry, wasn't paying attention to what I was typing. top > ~/top-file
[23:19] <tessier> nh2: Cool, thanks. I have been doing that also. But sometimes I run into a situation where I need to scp something on/off the server as root. I could go in and sudo and copy them somewhere my normal user has access to but that is a real pain. How do you deal with that? I am mostly thinking about my developers. They are resisting not having root passwords.
[23:20] <seidos> tohuw: thanks
[23:20] <tohuw> tessier: ssh keys for wheel group users
[23:20] <tessier> nh2: I know. I have been using sudo -s for years. But the no root password thing is more challenging. I have tried it off and on the past few years and sometimes run into issue.
[23:20] <seidos> bro: you have to enter the command at the command line, so you'll have to break from the command line or open another terminal
[23:20] <guest2> hey, i get the background noise when i use the microphone but none of the actual recording.... anyone run into a similar problem?
[23:20] <tessier> tohuw: ssh keys so that they can ssh in as root? That's a good idea.
[23:20] <tohuw> gotta run, night boys and girls and robots
[23:21] <seidos> bro: sorry, you'll have to break from top to enter the command
[23:21] <bro> tohuw, seidos, meanwhile: http://imagebin.org/64299
[23:22] <seidos> bro: top > ~/topfile doesn't really work
[23:22] <seidos> bro: but try it if you want :)
[23:22] <dgpj> xubuntu question: for example: if I wanted to change the name of any shortcut under applications>settings how do I do that?
[23:23] <bro> seidos, no, it doesn't, but i gave you the screenshot anyway
[23:24] <seidos> bro: I'm going to read this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=393176
[23:24] <guest2> hey, i get the background noise when i use the microphone but none of the actual recording.... anyone run into a similar problem?
[23:25] <seidos> bro: your top says 169904k cached, so it's probably not cache in my thinking
[23:25] <bro> seidos: not that much to read, system monitor doesn't show cached memory by default, top does, that's why the differencie
[23:25] <nh2> tessier: I never ran into that SCP situation. For most of that things, I simply created groups for different tasks / filesystem areas, so that my own user or the 'webdesigner' group could always access whatever they needed. In the long term, I think this was a good thing since it makes clear who can do what.
[23:26] <seidos> guest2: sort of.  I can't record audio in audacity from a song I'm playing out of my sound card
[23:26] <bro> seidos, maybe that's just from swap?
[23:26] <Shirakawasuna> could someone here confirm that vlc --service-discovery upnp_intel works or doesn't work in ubuntu by default?
[23:27] <seidos> bro: what does cached mean?
[23:27] <tessier> nh2: Yes, I need to do some of that also. But with ssh key access to root we should be fine.
[23:27] <J_Litewski> Is it Evolution's problem or Google's problem that Evolution doesn't have full sync with Google Calendar?
[23:29] <ralph_> trying update ubuntu on my ibm thinkpad and having difficulty
[23:30] <bro> seidos, i'm thinking of memory used to save software files in, like in windows. the system is saving the exe's and dll's in ram so the next time you start that program those files won't be read from hdd [which is slow], and it will start more rapidly
[23:30] <seidos> bro: yeah, it's caching swap file to ram.
[23:30] <bro> seidos, but i don't know if cache is the same thing under linux
[23:30] <seidos> bro: or swap partition
[23:31] <bro> seidos, yes, i have a 1GB swap partition, that's not ram
[23:31] <seidos> bro: they are saying top includes cached memory, but system monitor doesn't.  This coincides with what I'm seeing on my top output and system monitor output
[23:31] <bro> seido: but the first line, above swap, that's RAM
[23:31] <seidos> bro: how much ram?
[23:31] <bro> seidos: 2GB
[23:32] <seidos> bro: yeah, first line, mem is ram, you have 1983452k used.
[23:32] <seidos> how much of that is cached swap?
[23:32] <bro> seidos: so, if system monitor doesn't read cache like top does, why it would show so high usage of the RAM?
[23:33] <seidos> bro: ah ha!  that's the question
[23:33] <seidos> bro: what version of system monitor are you using?
[23:33] <bro> seidos: :)
[23:33] <Shirakawasuna> is there a good upnp client in ubuntu?
[23:33] <bro> seidos: 2.26.0.1, the one that comes with jaunty
[23:34] <seidos> me too
[23:34] <TonyTT> hi guys I want to create a kubuntu usb bootup drive for my friend, I am using ubuntu 8.10. Is there an easy method for me to do so?
[23:35] <bro> seidos: i'll reboot, we'll se after that if the ram usage drops and stay down hopefully [in sys. mon. not top]
[23:35] <seidos> all right
[23:36] <sagaci> what's the CLI command to check all mounted devices
[23:36] <tom__> df
[23:37] <sagaci> tom__: thanks tom
[23:37] <tom__> sagaci: np
[23:38] <tom__> Anybody know why nvidia x server settings can't remember its settings in a fresh Jaunty install?
[23:38] <bro> seidos, back
[23:38] <seidos> all right
[23:38] <seidos> did the reboot fix it?
[23:38] <matthew1> I've looked around and followed various directions but I can't figure out how to change the "start" icon
[23:39] <Frijolie> anybody a l33t h4x0r with regex? I need to replace 1+ "_" with just a single " " in a bunch of filenames
[23:39] <bro> seidos, yep, ~340MB of ram used with xchat, torrents, amarok running. actually dropping to 310MB right now :)
[23:39] <bboru> i just got a new hd and want to image my current installation and back it up on dvds to restore.  is there an ubuntu solution similar to drivexml?
[23:39] <_pHI_> a bash script can use $* to expand all arguments. How do i only expand the arguments after $2?
[23:39] <bro> seidos: these are sys mon readings
[23:39] <seidos> bro: weird
[23:40] <seidos> bro: maybe sys mon glitched
[23:40] <bro> seidos, i always have low usage in sys mon
[23:40] <bro> seidos, maybe, who knows
[23:40] <seidos> I don't check sys mon very often
[23:40] <Shirakawasuna> hmm
[23:40] <seidos> bro: this was the first time really, I usually use top
[23:41] <bro> seidos: top says 700MB of ram used already
[23:41] <nadav> Hey all - I'm having a bit of trouble dual booting 9.04 and WindowsXP. I had WinXP working before I installed Ubuntu, but now grub won't start Windows. Can anyone help? Thanks!
[23:41] <Total_Oblivion> hello. How can I install listen-0.6.3.tar.gz ?
[23:41] <seidos> bro: I'm more concerned about cpu usage than mem usage, have hadn't a problem with mem usage before
[23:41] <bro> seidos: so how much REAL RAM ubuntu actually runs on?
[23:41] <tom__> Newb question: System->Administration->NVIDIA X Server Settings appears to need root powers to save its settings.  How do I give them to it?
[23:42] <bro> seidos, well, cpu is low here, not having problems
[23:42] <comicinker> Total_Oblivion: is the version from the repositories too old?
[23:42] <mgv1> how do i launch ubuntu with kde which i just installed?
[23:42] <Frijolie> nobody, huh?
[23:42] <codeshah> guys I am trying to install php as cgi on apache in ubuntu... where is the cgi-bin directory hmm
[23:43] <baboeska> um just a wild guess but maybe /var/www/cgi-bin?
[23:43] <server7> Hi Everyone, I just find out that my ISP provider did block port 80 (internal Policy). I tried to get apache2 to listen to port 8080. Then I forward my router to the same port number "8080". The problem is I have to enter port "8080" every time I log to my website, and I Rapache and mythweb are no longer active. I can't figure a correct way to get everything working properly (Just like it was on port 80). Does anyone knows a good way to solv
[23:43] <server7> e this problem??I'm using ubuntu server 9.04 with kernel 2.6.28.15-server. Thank you.
[23:43] <Total_Oblivion> comicinker: what repositories?
[23:44] <huwaw69> anyone here played openarena?
[23:44] <dragon> server7: what do you mean by "have to enter port "8080" every time I log to my website"?
[23:44]  * bro 's ubuntu is runing on air instead of ram
[23:44] <tom__> Frijolie: Take a look at the app called "mmv" it aught to do the trick for you.
[23:44] <comicinker> Total_Oblivion: the repositories from which synaptic gets the software. so after all, the version from synaptic
[23:44] <seidos> server7: the only way you won't have to put port 8080 is if your browser was working on port 8080 by default
[23:44] <Frijolie> tom__, it in the repos?
[23:45] <server7> I have to enter www.mydomain.com:8080
[23:45] <Itaku> is it possible to install ubuntu network on a desktop?
[23:45] <seidos> !who | server7
[23:45] <tom__> yup - it gives you a multiple move command that's pretty useful
[23:45] <server7> If I don't enter the port number, I can't connect!!
[23:45] <Itaku> is it possible to install ubuntu netbook on a desktop?*
[23:46] <psypher246> hi all, does anyone else have the same problem, when using unrar to uncompress a file while it is doing that the rest of my system (pretty fast hardware) comes to a complete standstill, the pc is not usable at all?
[23:46] <seidos> Itaku: I think so, but I don't have experience doing it
[23:46] <gartral> Itaku: yes.. but it isn't recommended
[23:46] <psypher246> i have googled and cannot find any answers
[23:46] <Itaku> im at the point where its needed, my comps crap and cant hander anything on it
[23:46] <yoritomo> hello what is the best Ares client under ubuntu?
[23:46] <nowimproved> How do I give two users permission to the same file, easily?
[23:46] <tom__> Frijolie: It's in there.
[23:47] <dragon> server7: you'll have to specify the port number, as seidos mentioned above.
[23:47] <server7> seidos, do you mean i picked the wrong port number
[23:47] <jrib> nowimproved: create a group
[23:48] <nowimproved> jrgp, that is the only way?
[23:48] <server7> Seidos, I will try a different port
[23:48] <tom__> Is there a way to modify the menu item for an app so that it runs as root (after asking for the password) ?
[23:48] <jrib> nowimproved: no
[23:48] <jrib> tom__: sure, prefix it with gksudo.... But why would you do that?
[23:48] <seidos> server7: that won't do what you want, server7.  The only thing that will work is hosting on a system that allows port 80, because by default, port 80 is what web browsers use
[23:48] <No-Neck> can anyone point me in the right direction to making ubuntu server auto login and start X for my HTPC?
[23:48] <Total_Oblivion> comicinker: I just came to ubuntu from windows an i am not quite used to installing files that are not .exe. When i double click listen-0.6.3.tar.gz it opens a window with many files, and i don't know from which i can do the installation
[23:48] <dragon> server7: an alternative is to use a service that masks your site in a frame. It will display the webpage without having the visitors enter the port number, but I don't think it's a good idea.
[23:48] <jrib> No-Neck: system -> administration -> login window
[23:49] <baboeska> yo
[23:49] <jrib> !software | Total_Oblivion
[23:49] <tom__> jrib: I need to set my x-server settings, and the menu item is for some reason not root-powered, so it can't save any settings.
[23:49] <jrib> Total_Oblivion: you don't install software through tar.gz, you should use APT (see ubottu)
[23:49] <No-Neck> jrib, this is ubuntu server ;)
[23:49] <dragon> jrib: didn't No-Neck mention Ubuntu Server?
[23:49] <jrib> tom__: run gdmsetup yourself then?
[23:49] <dragon> No-Neck: try the /etc/inittab file
[23:50] <server7> seidos, But I can't use port 80 anymore, COX (isp) did block it in my area
[23:50] <No-Neck> dragon, it doesn't exist in ubuntu, this is why I ask :D
[23:50] <tom__> jrib: it's the nvidia x-server settings applet I need to use.
[23:50] <jrib> No-Neck, dragon : didn't you mention X...
[23:50] <nowimproved> jrib, i'm following a simple how to, i go to add root into the group and it says user already exists, is that because root will automatically exist in every group, of course that makes sense
[23:50] <jrib> tom__: k, then gksudo nvidia-settinng
[23:50] <Total_Oblivion> jrib: thnx:)
[23:50] <jrib> tom__: k, then gksudo nvidia-settings
[23:50] <yoritomo> nobody uses ares here ?
[23:50] <No-Neck> yes jrib, running X on server :)
[23:50] <jrib> nowimproved: why don't you explain what you are doing?
[23:50] <comicinker> Total_Oblivion: thanks. in ubuntu software is usually available in the repositories. you can install software with "Add/Remove"
[23:50] <jrib> No-Neck: use gdm
[23:50] <tom__> jrib: right, thanks.  I just figured it needed changing in the menus, since there's no point in it being there otherwise.
[23:51] <server7> I'm not sure why they did that, it's really unfair and stupid
[23:51] <jrib> No-Neck: wait, maybe I am confused.  What does htpc mean?
[23:51] <dragon> No-Neck: create /etc/inittab
[23:51] <No-Neck> jrib, it's a media centre
[23:51] <jrib> No-Neck: it's not the same machine?
[23:51] <nowimproved> jrgp, I created a sym link in ftp, that way I can access a bunch of files through my ftp client, the problem is that I don't have permissions to edit these files owned by root, and i want to keep them owned by root
[23:51] <Total_Oblivion> comicinker: where are the repositories?
[23:51] <No-Neck> jrib, no keyboard, no mouse
[23:51] <No-Neck> dragon, will that work??? o.O
[23:51] <seidos> server7: the only thing I can think of is include :8080 in links to people
[23:52] <jrib> tom__: you can use nvidia-settings for things don't require root access
[23:52] <No-Neck> jrib, what do you mean the same machine?
[23:52] <Ulises54> Sorry  I'm trying to redimention my hd and got this problem that cannot understand ’╗┐ http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9533/pantallazo4u.png
[23:52] <seidos> server7: either that or find someone to host your site on a line that doesn't have port 80 blocked.
[23:52] <server7> seidos, how I do that??
[23:52] <jrib> No-Neck: the machine running ubuntu server is not the same as the HTPC
[23:52] <seidos> server7: you already know how.  http://www.mydomain.com:8080
[23:52] <jrib> nowimproved: ok, create a group then
[23:52] <comicinker> Total_Oblivion: you can administrate repositories in System->Administration->Software Sources; however install software is done with tools like "Add/Remove" or synaptic
[23:52] <nowimproved> jrib, the group is created
[23:53] <dragon> No-Neck: yes it will
[23:53] <jrib> nowimproved: add your user to that group, make the file's groups that gorup
[23:53] <tom__> jrib: Yes, I can activate my 2nd monitor with it without root access, but next time I log in, it's dead again until I go through the process again.  Gotta be root to make the change stick.
[23:53] <No-Neck> jrib, same machine, it's an atom ion board, keeping it light, installed ubuntu server and X, have done so before but never auto started X
[23:53] <jrib> nowimproved: update permissions
[23:53] <dragon> No-Neck: that's why i mentioned it ;)
[23:53] <nowimproved> jrib, the users i want to add are already a part of the group...
[23:53] <Ulises54> Hello all
[23:53] <server7> siedos, I do. Before they block port 80, I had everything 100% working
[23:53] <seidos> hell Ulises54
[23:53] <No-Neck> dragon, anything I need to do to 'activate' inittab?
[23:53] <jrib> No-Neck: so you are sshed in or something?
[23:54] <seidos> server7: I had the same problem awhile back
[23:54] <Ulises54> seidos
[23:54] <jrib> nowimproved: great now make the file's group that group and give the group write permissions...
[23:54] <dragon> No-Neck: yes, place it under /etc
[23:54] <BlackDalek> Help! Since upgrading from Intrepid to Jaunty, I've had problems with pulseaudio skipping/stuttering/popping/crackling during music playback... particularly noticeable in Rhythmbox. Can anyone help me fix this annoying problem?
[23:54] <Total_Oblivion> comicinker: cool! Cheers for the help:)
[23:54] <Ulises54>  u watched the pasted image?
[23:54] <No-Neck> jrib, yes and I can no longer even startx over SSH like I used to :(
[23:54] <server7> Seidos, what did you do?
[23:54] <jrib> No-Neck: why?
[23:54] <Bruno`> hello
[23:54] <seidos> Ulises54: sorry, I meant to say hello Ulises54
[23:54] <comicinker> Total_Oblivion: you asked the right questions ;)
[23:54] <raila> boa noite
[23:55] <raila> alguem poderia me ajudar a resolver um probleminha?
[23:55] <Bruno`> I did something like xhost +LOCAL so i can launch something on my xscreen from another account... But what about alsa ? I need to play some sound too .. can you help me ?
[23:55] <nowimproved> jrib, give the group write permissions..it has write permissions
[23:55] <No-Neck> jrib, no idea, it always used to work but now it says 'user not priviledged to run X' (or something similar) whereas I can start it when I have the keyboard and monitor atached
[23:55] <server7> seidos, did you change your ISP??
[23:55] <m3F> raila, in english
[23:55] <jrib> nowimproved: ok, so what is your question at this point?
[23:55] <trism> No-Neck: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/03/15/howto-autologin-into-your-linux-system-without-xdm-gdm-kdm-etc/
[23:55] <nowimproved> and i did all of that, and nothing, i still can't access it because this user is apparently a part of the group
[23:55] <Total_Oblivion> Also, is there any other other player to play movies etc apart from VLC and the ubuntu default?
[23:55] <jrib> No-Neck: you should be doing: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[23:56] <Total_Oblivion> Cause there is something wrong while watching them:\
[23:56] <trism> No-Neck: seems you just add su - <username> -c startx to /etc/rc.local
[23:56] <nowimproved> jrib, you just had me create a group...i did that, i went to add, a non-root user, and it says, it already exists, now, i chown it, it has write right permissions, and nothing
[23:56] <No-Neck> cheers trism now having a look
[23:56] <jophish> I am logged into a server via ssh, I am going to be copying about 1.5TB of data. What must I do to ensure that cp doesn't stop when I log out
[23:56] <seidos> server7: I tried to find a hosting company.  If it happens again I'll probably go with https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net
[23:56] <lelo> hejka wszystkim :D
[23:56] <No-Neck> jrib, I don't have gdm
[23:56] <nowimproved> permission denied, geez, no wonder I've never messed with groups before
[23:56] <jrib> nowimproved: pastebin what you are doing
[23:56] <jrib> No-Neck: well that would be the easiest way to have X automatically startup and login
[23:56] <mgv1> how do i launch ubuntu with kde which i just installed?
[23:57] <matthew1> can someone help me out here, I've installed tons of themes and everything works except the "start" button NEVER changes. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong.
[23:57] <jrib> mgv1: at the login screen, click "options"
[23:57] <nowimproved> jrib, I just don't have time to learn this right now, thanks for the help though
[23:57] <No-Neck> jrib, I think trism has given me the perfect solution
[23:57] <server7> seidos. how do you like them?
[23:57] <jrib> !permissions > nowimproved
[23:58] <jrib> No-Neck: meh
 thanks jrib
[23:58] <tom__> jrib: thanks
[23:58] <nowimproved> I'd be more interested in knowing why my internet dies every 24 minutes
[23:59] <seidos> server7: I haven't used them yet.  I just heard good things about them from gnu/linux users in the community
[23:59] <No-Neck> jrib, thanks for the help!