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davidbarthDBO: ping? still there?08:40
mac_vbratsche: hi.. of the different resolutions available , how do i identify which image my xsplash is using? does it depend on the display resolution? or ...10:47
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DBOdavidbarth, pong, here now13:40
mac_vnjpatel: hi... you are incharge of UNR , right? humanity icon theme is being flooded with requests for grey panel icons from UNR team. if that is done , the apps will also use these icons... dust theme needs to be modified to use these icons only in the panel. DanRabbit has done a gtk theme which does that...13:44
DBOeGTK you mean?13:47
mac_vi think yeah13:47
davidbarthDBO: hi; i've assigned you a bug this morning that you had commented on13:48
mac_vnjpatel: or do you want the apps also to use these grey icons?13:48
mac_vthen no probs ;)13:48
DBOdavidbarth, which one?13:48
DBOfor some reason I am not seeing anything new in my assigned bugs list13:48
davidbarthDBO: hold on; searching13:49
DBOah found it13:49
davidbarthah ok13:49
DBOstupid firefox and its cache :P13:49
davidbarthwell13:50
davidbarthi've had so many HW crashes and issues this morning13:50
davidbarththat firefox is a dream in comparison13:50
DBOhw crashes suck13:51
mac_vDBO: hmm... have you guys considered doing a gnome-do plugin for cairo-dock? DO's dock doesnt have too many options but a DO plugin for cairo-dock would would be awesome :)13:52
DBOdavidbarth, i would like to mention that the bug is really "netbook-launcher crashes when killed"13:53
DBOmac_v, I am writing docky-213:53
DBOits going to blow everything else out of the water13:54
DBOits already amazingly cool13:54
mac_vhehe ;)13:54
mac_vDBO: where is it ? 13:54
mac_vhosted?13:54
DBOits far from ready for public consumption13:54
DBObut13:54
DBOlp:docky13:54
mac_vDBO: :) , i think it should solve my feature request Bug #409341 ;)13:57
ubot4Launchpad bug 409341 in do "[Feature Request] Options to Customize the Dock" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40934113:57
DBOmac_v, already on it13:58
DBOmac_v, you can set the size of Docky13:58
DBOjust click and drag up and down on the separator13:59
mac_vyeah , i didnt realize it :( , its too well  hidded13:59
mac_vDBO: hmm... if you havent checked out the latest cairo-dock v2 , do check it out it has some nice new features13:59
DBOfixed that in docky 213:59
DBOalso you can set size, position, svg background themes, svg menu themes, svg separator themes14:00
DBOmac_v, what are the cool ones?14:00
mac_vDBO: iirc these were already in version 1 , but the animations have improved greatly in v2 , it uses OpenGL now... but the option you mentioned are great new additions :) , these where the things i missed the most in Docky :(14:02
DBOthere are many new things in docky14:02
DBOintellihide is going to be more awesome14:02
DBOmultiple docks14:02
mac_v\o/ i'll be checking it out :)14:02
DBOmassive amounts of plugins will be reasonable to work with14:03
mac_vintellihide?14:03
DBOlike autohide14:03
DBObut its smarter14:03
DBOit doesn't hide when it doesn't need to14:03
mac_vyup.. that was something i was about to request14:03
DBOintellihide is available on Docky 114:03
DBOits just not as smart as Docky 2's14:04
mac_vDBO: i didnt play around much with docky1 , it was too huge [back then , didnt know how to resize it]and only at the bottom , so i used DO without the dock :(14:05
mac_vDBO: any plans on setting up a ppa for DO+docky2? , i usually forget to update the bzr :(14:06
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DBOdocky is a separate process now14:11
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MDC1DanRabbit, there?17:06
MDC1i'ts now weekend and i'll have some time coding - what shall I do? :-)17:07
MDC1i'm thinking of the grouping of folders/files/hidden files - with or without labels. If I go with labels (such as "Folders") we can probably use this to group files in different ways - like when last modified; Today, Yesterday, Last Week, Last Month, Long time ago... 17:09
MDC1or is there some paper cut bug that would be nice to have fixed?17:10
DanRabbitMDC1: I'm awake now :D17:37
mac_vDanRabbit: incoming , but ... :(17:40
MDC1DanRabbit, if you got any suggestion on work todo - just write it and i'll read it when back in a few hours (will go see a movie)17:50
DanRabbitDo you have BZR or anything where I can get your latest nautilus package?17:52
DanRabbitor are all the patches kind of scattered about ;)17:52
mac_vMDC1: hey... whats up with nautilus?17:55
DanRabbitnjpatel: ping18:12
SiDiDanRabbit1: thanks for Elementary19:10
SiDiit's really sweet, it's very likely we'll use it in Xubuntu19:10
DanRabbit1hehe,  :D19:10
DanRabbit1I'm glad you like it19:10
SiDithere are a few icons that we dont like much or which need some update, though19:11
DanRabbit1okay19:13
* mac_v thinks ... now elementary has only to be picked up by Kubuntu ;)19:15
DanRabbit1haha19:17
ScottKWhat is it?19:19
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SiDiScottK: a sexy blue icon theme19:25
SiDimac_v: we took it before ! meh19:25
ScottKAh.19:26
mac_vSiDi: no probs we can share ;)19:26
MDC1DanRabbit, they're everywhere ;-) toolbar editor is in git, the other in bugzilla19:30
DanRabbit1hehe19:35
DanRabbit1brb19:35
MDC1DanRabbit - back?19:54
MDC1http://www.flickr.com/photos/njpatel/2122840167/sizes/o/in/set-72157603637351266/19:57
DanRabbit1yep19:57
MDC1take a look at that mockup 19:57
DanRabbit1holy shit19:57
MDC1looks great -  huh?19:58
DanRabbit1yea19:58
DanRabbit1that's amazing19:58
MDC1i'm wondering how much work it would be to get that working..19:58
DanRabbit1no idea20:02
MDC1i'll make a try if you don't have any other suggestions.. ?20:02
DanRabbit1no, looks awesome20:02
MDC1the link was from bugzilla ;-)20:03
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* DBO pokes MDC1 20:16
MDC1me here20:16
DBOso your nautilus version can subtly break theming with existing themes20:16
MDC1the grouping thing?20:17
DBOya20:17
MDC1not a code line written just yet - the image was a mockup20:17
DBOerm20:17
DBOguess no20:17
DBOthe thingie in your ppa20:17
DBOthe toolbar matches under slightly different rules20:17
MDC1hmm... ah - don't look at the ppa - old shit ;-)20:18
MDC1if you'd like to try the toolbar editor - please look at the git20:18
DBOnow you tell me20:18
DBOmmmm but I dont WANT to install nautilus from source...20:18
DBOI like having working packages20:18
MDC1i should really do some packinging some day ;.)20:19
DBOi already have the entire netbook remix installed from source20:19
MDC1hehe20:19
DBOgnome do, docky, th ekernel, mesa, clutter, clutk20:19
MDC1oh.. :-)20:19
DBOI might as well be running LFS20:19
MDC1haha20:19
MDC1i've got a few patches that i might create a ppa with..20:19
DBOso are these patches things that apply cleanly to jaunty nautilus?20:20
DBObecause I'll make packages that way...20:20
MDC1toolbar editor, don't close open location when fail and trashed date column20:20
MDC1you're more than welcome to create a package with those patches (no idea if they would apply cleanly)20:21
MDC1DBO, thing the toolbar editor is that it introduces new files and then we'll have to patch the autogenerated Makefiles and I haven't found the mood to that yet..20:22
DBOMDC1, would my threatening you with a blunt object help? I know I am probably thousands of miles away and the effect will probably be lost, but that kind of thing is always worth a shot20:23
MDC1dbo, might help20:24
DBOMDC1, if you dont package that stuff up, I am going to beat you with a teddy bear full of molten steel20:25
MDC1i'll try to give it a shot this weekend - now i'll have to try this grouping thingy20:25
MDC1hahaaha20:25
MDC1now i'm so terrified i really have to do it ;)20:25
DBO*flashes eyes of rage* good *teddy bears melting slowly reveal themselves in the iris of his eyes*20:27
SiDiDanRabbit1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Karmic20:48
SiDithe list might not be accurate,  i needa go right now so i cant polish it20:48
SiDiits not written in diplomatic terms either :P I called your mouse icon prehistorical :P20:48
DanRabbit1doh21:15
DanRabbit1SiDi: I can work on it21:15
DanRabbit1SiDi: have you noticed the label on optical media changes with the format?21:16
DanRabbit1It also has CDR, CDRW, etc21:16
MDC1DanRabbit1, http://mejlamej.nu/g2.png21:52
DanRabbit1WOO!21:53
MDC1now i'll just need to figure out how to get the text into place21:53
DanRabbit1that's so awesome21:53
DanRabbit1if you can give the hidden icons a little bit of alpha you will be my hero21:53
DanRabbit1that's sexy as shit21:53
MDC1yeah.. hmm.. might be possible.. but labels first ;-)21:54
DanRabbit1What's wrong with the text?21:54
MDC1no - the headers21:54
MDC1prefferable with an arrow21:54
DanRabbit1Do you mean the Up, Stop, Reload?21:55
DanRabbit1OH21:55
DanRabbit1ncm21:55
DanRabbit1nvM*21:55
MDC1nope.. the "Files" and "Folders" headers21:55
DanRabbit1I get what you mean21:55
DanRabbit1yea21:55
DanRabbit1:D21:55
MDC1:-)21:55
DanRabbit1I dunno, you almost don't need it...21:55
DanRabbit1but, we'll see21:56
DanRabbit1That's beautiful, though.21:56
MDC1is a little bit of a hell to get it in there.. 21:56
DBOMDC1, do you have any working relationship with upstream?22:34
MDC1DBO, nope22:34
DBOwe should fix that...22:35
DBOyour work is worthwhile stuff22:35
MDC1thanks ;-)22:35
DBOis the code clean?22:35
MDC1the grouping stuff?22:35
MDC1not at all22:35
MDC1i'd need a mentor22:35
DBOhow long have you been coding? :P22:36
bratscheWhat are you working on?22:36
DBOawesome stuff22:36
bratschelink? :)22:36
* DBO shuts up so MDC1 can get some glory22:36
MDC1http://mejlamej.nu/toolbar_editor_teaser.ogv22:37
MDC1http://mejlamej.nu/trash.png22:37
MDC1http://mejlamej.nu/g2.png22:38
bratscheNice.22:38
MDC1DBO, depends - begun with basic when around 10 years old, then a lot of VB6, now working as a java developer (nowadays most NOT programming, handles projects and stufff) - 22:39
DBOMDC1, yeah like I thought, you have more experience than me :)22:40
MDC1DBO, actually never thought i would do C as it was "too late" for me.. but now when i've found a few bugs and actually could solve them i can work on other stuff as well ;.)22:40
MDC1DBO, well.. not as an OSS developer ;-)22:41
DBOdo you have a website/blog?22:41
MDC1DBO, no - but i'm planning to... :_)22:41
DBOplease let me know when you do22:42
DBOyour work intrigues me22:42
MDC1sure - thanks22:42
MDC1you don't happen to know a nautilus dev who has time to do mentoring?22:42
MDC1everyone seems busy...22:42
MDC1would love some feedback and help on the toolbar editor22:43
DBOpersonally, no, I am mostly in the world of UNR and gnome do/docky22:43
MDC1C#22:43
DBOUNR is all C22:43
DBOI do C and C#, python only if I must22:43
MDC1isn't gnome do c#?22:43
bratscheIs the toolbar editor written in C?22:44
DBOyes22:44
DBOto both of you :P22:44
MDC1for nautilus - yes. Manny started to work on it ages ago - and i've used his base for it..22:44
bratscheIf you need help with gtk or GObject type stuff, ping me and I can try to help out.  I'm not that familiar with the Nautilus code base though, but maybe I can be of a little help.22:44
MDC1bratsche, OH YES I AM :)22:45
DBOMDC1, is it livable having nautilus installed from source?22:45
DBOor more annoying than I can stand :P22:45
bratscheMDC1: ?22:45
MDC1bratsche, http://github.com/MDC/Nautilus-Toolbar-Editor/blob/toolbareditor/TODO-toolbareditor - take a look at the problem with icons being lost when cancelling a drag 22:46
DBOoh man I am pro at DnD now, half my work hours I spent on that22:46
bratscheOkay, I'll pull down the code.  I need to try to finish some stuff up for work, but I'll take a look at it after that.22:47
MDC1DBO, no idea, i develop in a virtual machine and just run nautilus from source when trying anything new22:47
MDC1bratsche, sure thing! :)22:47
DBOyou know thats such a reasonable thing to do...22:47
MDC1DBO, you're welcome to take a look at it as well.. 22:47
MDC1or the problem with updating other windows with the toolbar....22:48
bratscheI'm done with xsplash stuff for awhile I think, but I'm trying to work on something in indicator-session now.22:48
MDC1*new edited toolbar from another window that is22:48
DBOMDC1, isn't behavior on most GNOME apps to not update in that situation?22:48
MDC1DBO, eog does update all the windows open22:49
MDC1nautilus does not when chaning the visibility of the toolbar for example22:49
DBOI wonder if the HIG has anything to say on this22:49
DBOgotta run, back later22:50
MDC1so - i'm not sure - but it seems a little bit buggy if i change one window then another and have a bunch of other windows open and the next I open looks like the last one i've edited ... 22:50
MDC1bye22:50
DanRabbit1Bye everyone23:20
MDC1bye!23:20
SiDiwhoever sent me a message in the last 2 hours, i didnt receive it23:37

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