=== rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [08:40] DBO: ping? still there? [10:47] bratsche: hi.. of the different resolutions available , how do i identify which image my xsplash is using? does it depend on the display resolution? or ... === mpt_ is now known as mpt [12:37] * MacSlow -> lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:40] davidbarth, pong, here now [13:44] njpatel: hi... you are incharge of UNR , right? humanity icon theme is being flooded with requests for grey panel icons from UNR team. if that is done , the apps will also use these icons... dust theme needs to be modified to use these icons only in the panel. DanRabbit has done a gtk theme which does that... [13:47] eGTK you mean? [13:47] i think yeah [13:48] DBO: hi; i've assigned you a bug this morning that you had commented on [13:48] njpatel: or do you want the apps also to use these grey icons? [13:48] then no probs ;) [13:48] davidbarth, which one? [13:48] for some reason I am not seeing anything new in my assigned bugs list [13:49] DBO: hold on; searching [13:49] ah found it [13:49] ah ok [13:49] stupid firefox and its cache :P [13:50] well [13:50] i've had so many HW crashes and issues this morning [13:50] that firefox is a dream in comparison [13:51] hw crashes suck [13:52] DBO: hmm... have you guys considered doing a gnome-do plugin for cairo-dock? DO's dock doesnt have too many options but a DO plugin for cairo-dock would would be awesome :) [13:53] davidbarth, i would like to mention that the bug is really "netbook-launcher crashes when killed" [13:53] mac_v, I am writing docky-2 [13:54] its going to blow everything else out of the water [13:54] its already amazingly cool [13:54] hehe ;) [13:54] DBO: where is it ? [13:54] hosted? [13:54] its far from ready for public consumption [13:54] but [13:54] lp:docky [13:57] DBO: :) , i think it should solve my feature request Bug #409341 ;) [13:57] Launchpad bug 409341 in do "[Feature Request] Options to Customize the Dock" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/409341 [13:58] mac_v, already on it [13:58] mac_v, you can set the size of Docky [13:59] just click and drag up and down on the separator [13:59] yeah , i didnt realize it :( , its too well hidded [13:59] DBO: hmm... if you havent checked out the latest cairo-dock v2 , do check it out it has some nice new features [13:59] fixed that in docky 2 [14:00] also you can set size, position, svg background themes, svg menu themes, svg separator themes [14:00] mac_v, what are the cool ones? [14:02] DBO: iirc these were already in version 1 , but the animations have improved greatly in v2 , it uses OpenGL now... but the option you mentioned are great new additions :) , these where the things i missed the most in Docky :( [14:02] there are many new things in docky [14:02] intellihide is going to be more awesome [14:02] multiple docks [14:02] \o/ i'll be checking it out :) [14:03] massive amounts of plugins will be reasonable to work with [14:03] intellihide? [14:03] like autohide [14:03] but its smarter [14:03] it doesn't hide when it doesn't need to [14:03] yup.. that was something i was about to request [14:03] intellihide is available on Docky 1 [14:04] its just not as smart as Docky 2's [14:05] DBO: i didnt play around much with docky1 , it was too huge [back then , didnt know how to resize it]and only at the bottom , so i used DO without the dock :( [14:06] DBO: any plans on setting up a ppa for DO+docky2? , i usually forget to update the bzr :( === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [14:11] docky is a separate process now === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3_ [16:58] * MacSlow -> capoeira === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|capoeira [17:06] DanRabbit, there? [17:07] i'ts now weekend and i'll have some time coding - what shall I do? :-) [17:09] i'm thinking of the grouping of folders/files/hidden files - with or without labels. If I go with labels (such as "Folders") we can probably use this to group files in different ways - like when last modified; Today, Yesterday, Last Week, Last Month, Long time ago... [17:10] or is there some paper cut bug that would be nice to have fixed? [17:37] MDC1: I'm awake now :D [17:40] DanRabbit: incoming , but ... :( [17:50] DanRabbit, if you got any suggestion on work todo - just write it and i'll read it when back in a few hours (will go see a movie) [17:52] Do you have BZR or anything where I can get your latest nautilus package? [17:52] or are all the patches kind of scattered about ;) [17:55] MDC1: hey... whats up with nautilus? [18:12] njpatel: ping [19:10] DanRabbit1: thanks for Elementary [19:10] it's really sweet, it's very likely we'll use it in Xubuntu [19:10] hehe, :D [19:10] I'm glad you like it [19:11] there are a few icons that we dont like much or which need some update, though [19:13] okay [19:15] * mac_v thinks ... now elementary has only to be picked up by Kubuntu ;) [19:17] haha [19:19] What is it? === MacSlow|capoeira is now known as MacSlow [19:25] ScottK: a sexy blue icon theme [19:25] mac_v: we took it before ! meh [19:26] Ah. [19:26] SiDi: no probs we can share ;) [19:30] DanRabbit, they're everywhere ;-) toolbar editor is in git, the other in bugzilla [19:35] hehe [19:35] brb [19:54] DanRabbit - back? [19:57] http://www.flickr.com/photos/njpatel/2122840167/sizes/o/in/set-72157603637351266/ [19:57] yep [19:57] take a look at that mockup [19:57] holy shit [19:58] looks great - huh? [19:58] yea [19:58] that's amazing [19:58] i'm wondering how much work it would be to get that working.. [20:02] no idea [20:02] i'll make a try if you don't have any other suggestions.. ? [20:02] no, looks awesome [20:03] the link was from bugzilla ;-) === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3-afk [20:16] * DBO pokes MDC1 [20:16] me here [20:16] so your nautilus version can subtly break theming with existing themes [20:17] the grouping thing? [20:17] ya [20:17] not a code line written just yet - the image was a mockup [20:17] erm [20:17] guess no [20:17] the thingie in your ppa [20:17] the toolbar matches under slightly different rules [20:18] hmm... ah - don't look at the ppa - old shit ;-) [20:18] if you'd like to try the toolbar editor - please look at the git [20:18] now you tell me [20:18] mmmm but I dont WANT to install nautilus from source... [20:18] I like having working packages [20:19] i should really do some packinging some day ;.) [20:19] i already have the entire netbook remix installed from source [20:19] hehe [20:19] gnome do, docky, th ekernel, mesa, clutter, clutk [20:19] oh.. :-) [20:19] I might as well be running LFS [20:19] haha [20:19] i've got a few patches that i might create a ppa with.. [20:20] so are these patches things that apply cleanly to jaunty nautilus? [20:20] because I'll make packages that way... [20:20] toolbar editor, don't close open location when fail and trashed date column [20:21] you're more than welcome to create a package with those patches (no idea if they would apply cleanly) [20:22] DBO, thing the toolbar editor is that it introduces new files and then we'll have to patch the autogenerated Makefiles and I haven't found the mood to that yet.. [20:23] MDC1, would my threatening you with a blunt object help? I know I am probably thousands of miles away and the effect will probably be lost, but that kind of thing is always worth a shot [20:24] dbo, might help [20:25] MDC1, if you dont package that stuff up, I am going to beat you with a teddy bear full of molten steel [20:25] i'll try to give it a shot this weekend - now i'll have to try this grouping thingy [20:25] hahaaha [20:25] now i'm so terrified i really have to do it ;) [20:27] *flashes eyes of rage* good *teddy bears melting slowly reveal themselves in the iris of his eyes* [20:48] DanRabbit1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Karmic [20:48] the list might not be accurate, i needa go right now so i cant polish it [20:48] its not written in diplomatic terms either :P I called your mouse icon prehistorical :P [21:15] doh [21:15] SiDi: I can work on it [21:16] SiDi: have you noticed the label on optical media changes with the format? [21:16] It also has CDR, CDRW, etc [21:52] DanRabbit1, http://mejlamej.nu/g2.png [21:53] WOO! [21:53] now i'll just need to figure out how to get the text into place [21:53] that's so awesome [21:53] if you can give the hidden icons a little bit of alpha you will be my hero [21:53] that's sexy as shit [21:54] yeah.. hmm.. might be possible.. but labels first ;-) [21:54] What's wrong with the text? [21:54] no - the headers [21:54] prefferable with an arrow [21:55] Do you mean the Up, Stop, Reload? [21:55] OH [21:55] ncm [21:55] nvM* [21:55] nope.. the "Files" and "Folders" headers [21:55] I get what you mean [21:55] yea [21:55] :D [21:55] :-) [21:55] I dunno, you almost don't need it... [21:56] but, we'll see [21:56] That's beautiful, though. [21:56] is a little bit of a hell to get it in there.. [22:34] MDC1, do you have any working relationship with upstream? [22:34] DBO, nope [22:35] we should fix that... [22:35] your work is worthwhile stuff [22:35] thanks ;-) [22:35] is the code clean? [22:35] the grouping stuff? [22:35] not at all [22:35] i'd need a mentor [22:36] how long have you been coding? :P [22:36] What are you working on? [22:36] awesome stuff [22:36] link? :) [22:36] * DBO shuts up so MDC1 can get some glory [22:37] http://mejlamej.nu/toolbar_editor_teaser.ogv [22:37] http://mejlamej.nu/trash.png [22:38] http://mejlamej.nu/g2.png [22:38] Nice. [22:39] DBO, depends - begun with basic when around 10 years old, then a lot of VB6, now working as a java developer (nowadays most NOT programming, handles projects and stufff) - [22:40] MDC1, yeah like I thought, you have more experience than me :) [22:40] DBO, actually never thought i would do C as it was "too late" for me.. but now when i've found a few bugs and actually could solve them i can work on other stuff as well ;.) [22:41] DBO, well.. not as an OSS developer ;-) [22:41] do you have a website/blog? [22:41] DBO, no - but i'm planning to... :_) [22:42] please let me know when you do [22:42] your work intrigues me [22:42] sure - thanks [22:42] you don't happen to know a nautilus dev who has time to do mentoring? [22:42] everyone seems busy... [22:43] would love some feedback and help on the toolbar editor [22:43] personally, no, I am mostly in the world of UNR and gnome do/docky [22:43] C# [22:43] UNR is all C [22:43] I do C and C#, python only if I must [22:43] isn't gnome do c#? [22:44] Is the toolbar editor written in C? [22:44] yes [22:44] to both of you :P [22:44] for nautilus - yes. Manny started to work on it ages ago - and i've used his base for it.. [22:44] If you need help with gtk or GObject type stuff, ping me and I can try to help out. I'm not that familiar with the Nautilus code base though, but maybe I can be of a little help. [22:45] bratsche, OH YES I AM :) [22:45] MDC1, is it livable having nautilus installed from source? [22:45] or more annoying than I can stand :P [22:45] MDC1: ? [22:46] bratsche, http://github.com/MDC/Nautilus-Toolbar-Editor/blob/toolbareditor/TODO-toolbareditor - take a look at the problem with icons being lost when cancelling a drag [22:46] oh man I am pro at DnD now, half my work hours I spent on that [22:47] Okay, I'll pull down the code. I need to try to finish some stuff up for work, but I'll take a look at it after that. [22:47] DBO, no idea, i develop in a virtual machine and just run nautilus from source when trying anything new [22:47] bratsche, sure thing! :) [22:47] you know thats such a reasonable thing to do... [22:47] DBO, you're welcome to take a look at it as well.. [22:48] or the problem with updating other windows with the toolbar.... [22:48] I'm done with xsplash stuff for awhile I think, but I'm trying to work on something in indicator-session now. [22:48] *new edited toolbar from another window that is [22:48] MDC1, isn't behavior on most GNOME apps to not update in that situation? [22:49] DBO, eog does update all the windows open [22:49] nautilus does not when chaning the visibility of the toolbar for example [22:49] I wonder if the HIG has anything to say on this [22:50] gotta run, back later [22:50] so - i'm not sure - but it seems a little bit buggy if i change one window then another and have a bunch of other windows open and the next I open looks like the last one i've edited ... [22:50] bye [23:20] Bye everyone [23:20] bye! [23:37] whoever sent me a message in the last 2 hours, i didnt receive it