| sbalneav | Evening all | 01:35 |
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| sbalneav | highvoltage: around? | 01:37 |
| highvoltage | sbalneav: am now | 07:07 |
| mhall119|work | anyone from Edubuntu going to the Atlanta Linux Fest tomorrow? | 13:34 |
| alkisg | I'm trying to find a good way to setup non-LTSP school labs with 8 - 12 PCs. E.g. for user management: LDAP, NIS, or something else? For shared home directories: NFS, AFS...? For cloning: clonezilla, tar, ...? | 13:46 |
| mhall119|work | I've done an OpenLDAP + Samba setup that worked well | 13:50 |
| mhall119|work | I was mainly working with Windows workstations though, so there may be something better for Linux | 13:51 |
| alkisg | mhall119|work: Samba for shared *home* directories? Or just shared data files? | 13:54 |
| mhall119|work | I used it to serve home directories | 13:55 |
| mhall119|work | again, though, this was Windows | 13:56 |
| mhall119|work | which basically just copied the home folder's contents to the workstations at login, and back to the server at logout | 13:56 |
| alkisg | That's automatically done by windows, right? | 13:56 |
| mhall119|work | yeah | 13:57 |
| alkisg | (I also have some mixed labs with windows....) | 13:57 |
| alkisg | mhall119|work: about openldap, did it store credentials? | 13:57 |
| mhall119|work | what do you mean? | 13:57 |
| alkisg | E.g. if the server was down, were the users able to login? | 13:57 |
| mhall119|work | oh, no, they had to authenticate against the LDAP server | 13:57 |
| alkisg | So no local caching, like the windows servers do it... | 13:58 |
| mhall119|work | I didn't know windows servers did that | 13:58 |
| mhall119|work | I know you can have local-logins on windows workstations, but I didn't think they were cached from the directory server | 13:58 |
| alkisg | I think so. If my W2k server is down, the domain users are still able to access the clients, *if* they logged on at least once previously | 13:59 |
| alkisg | I may be wrong; I haven't used that in a very long time | 13:59 |
| mhall119|work | yeah, I got w2k certified, and don't remember most of it | 14:00 |
| alkisg | So the windows clients authenticated against openldap? Nice! Was that difficult to setup? | 14:00 |
| mhall119|work | technically they authenticated against Samba | 14:00 |
| mhall119|work | because they thought it was an NT4 domain controller | 14:01 |
| mhall119|work | Samba authenticated against OpenLDAP | 14:01 |
| alkisg | Ah, and samba pulled the users from openldap... | 14:01 |
| alkisg | Why use openldap then, and not just the samba users? | 14:01 |
| mhall119|work | Samba also used OpenLDAP for all the user and group information | 14:01 |
| mhall119|work | I had a VPN that could authenticate against LDAP also | 14:01 |
| mhall119|work | also, I wanted an LDAP-based company-wide address book | 14:01 |
| mhall119|work | for email | 14:02 |
| alkisg | Heh.... LDAP surely sounds powerful, I wonder if it's also easy to setup :) | 14:02 |
| mhall119|work | it didn't used to be | 14:02 |
| alkisg | Would it be overkill for a small lab with 8-12 clients? | 14:02 |
| mhall119|work | I hope it's gotten better | 14:02 |
| alkisg | (and maybe 200 students = accounts)? | 14:02 |
| mhall119|work | not quite overkill, but probably not the simplest solution | 14:02 |
| mhall119|work | hmm, 200+ accounts, maybe it is the simplest solution | 14:03 |
| mhall119|work | I think Novell and/or RedHat have directory server offerings that may work better than what I did | 14:03 |
| mhall119|work | something more akin to Microsoft's Active Directory | 14:03 |
| alkisg | Nah, I'd like to stick to ubuntu | 14:03 |
| mhall119|work | they may run on Ubuntu | 14:03 |
| mhall119|work | I think Apache has a directory server too | 14:04 |
| alkisg | Hmmm I should google then :) | 14:04 |
| alkisg | Thanks mhall119|work, that was valuable! | 14:04 |
| mhall119|work | no problem | 14:04 |
| mhall119|work | I did this like 5 years ago, when there weren't too many options | 14:05 |
| mhall119|work | it should be easier for you now | 14:05 |
| alkisg | I've only heard of NIS and LDAP so far, but I'll google for more options... | 14:05 |
| alkisg | mhall119|work: did you have the samba home directories in an ntfs partition, or in an ext3 one? | 14:08 |
| LaserJock | in how many hours is the meeting? | 14:08 |
| alkisg | Meeting? what meeting? :D | 14:08 |
| * alkisg looks... | 14:08 | |
| * LaserJock has a screwed up timezone sync since moving to Boston | 14:09 | |
| LaserJock | it's 17:00 UTC, so that's 13:00 Eastern time? | 14:09 |
| alkisg | Easter time is UTC-4 ?!! | 14:10 |
| alkisg | *n | 14:10 |
| LaserJock | I thought so | 14:10 |
| LaserJock | Pacific was -7 | 14:11 |
| * alkisg is in UTC+3, so doesn't have much idea about Eastern time... | 14:11 | |
| alkisg | "Its time offset is −5 hrs GMT or UTC−5 during standard time and UTC−4 during daylight saving time" ==> so yeah 13:00 sounds right... :) | 14:12 |
| mhall119|work | "date -u" will give you UTC time | 14:14 |
| LaserJock | yes, well | 14:14 |
| LaserJock | if I was on a Linux machine I'd do that :( | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | lol | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | it is currently 13:00 UTC | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | well, 13:15 | 14:15 |
| LaserJock | btw, webchat.freenode.net is the bomb | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | and 9:15 Eastern time | 14:15 |
| mhall119|work | http://etherpad.com/HmQ0jI7Z7w This is my outline for my presentation at the Atlanta Linux Fest, does anyone have any ideas of what to add? | 15:00 |
| highvoltage | Edubuntu meeting starting in moments in #ubuntu-meeting. | 17:57 |
| alkisg | Thanks highvoltage! | 17:59 |
| highvoltage | supposed to start now anyway :) | 18:05 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: how are things? | 18:05 |
| alkisg | highvoltage: fine! I dived into pygtk hacking :) | 18:06 |
| highvoltage | nice! | 18:06 |
| highvoltage | I didn't realise you knew Python :) | 18:06 |
| alkisg | I dont, actually :) I do know another dozen languages though, so it isn't too difficult... I just need the language reference beside me constantly, though.... | 18:07 |
| alkisg | ...and right after the import/export users I've been writing, I want to try to create an edubuntu remix | 18:07 |
| alkisg | highvoltage, what's the benefit of doing things "the right way" with seeds etc like edubuntu does, as opposed to just customize the live dvd with something like remastersys? | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: for one, we get to be an official distribution | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: personally, I'm fine with using remixes as long as they're done right. | 18:09 |
| alkisg | I'm asking because we're thinking of creating a greek edubuntu remix, and try to get it to as many schools as we can | 18:09 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: I hope that we come to a stage where we have lots of remixes and where we actively promote them | 18:09 |
| highvoltage | alkisg: so I'll even be more than happy to assist you where necessary | 18:09 |
| ace_suares | hi | 18:09 |
| alkisg | Nice!!!! I'd really appreciate that! | 18:10 |
| highvoltage | hi ace_suares | 18:10 |
| alkisg | Hi ace_suares | 18:10 |
| ace_suares | meeting ? | 18:10 |
| * alkisg looks around and doesn't see too many people active... | 18:10 | |
| highvoltage | yep, it's quite quiet. possibly to be expected on a Friday evening :) | 18:11 |
| ace_suares | sbalneav: meeting! | 18:17 |
| highvoltage | ace_suares: hi | 20:26 |
| highvoltage | ace_suares: where is the EdubuntuMeetingAgenda these days? | 20:26 |
| highvoltage | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda doesn't seem to direct anywhere | 20:26 |
| ace_suares | highvoltage: it's at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/ | 21:11 |
| Ahmuck_Sr | i notice that netbooks are 300.00, thin, and cheap anybody used one for a thin terminal? | 21:16 |
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