[01:35] Evening all [01:37] highvoltage: around? [07:07] sbalneav: am now [13:34] anyone from Edubuntu going to the Atlanta Linux Fest tomorrow? [13:46] I'm trying to find a good way to setup non-LTSP school labs with 8 - 12 PCs. E.g. for user management: LDAP, NIS, or something else? For shared home directories: NFS, AFS...? For cloning: clonezilla, tar, ...? [13:50] I've done an OpenLDAP + Samba setup that worked well [13:51] I was mainly working with Windows workstations though, so there may be something better for Linux [13:54] mhall119|work: Samba for shared *home* directories? Or just shared data files? [13:55] I used it to serve home directories [13:56] again, though, this was Windows [13:56] which basically just copied the home folder's contents to the workstations at login, and back to the server at logout [13:56] That's automatically done by windows, right? [13:57] yeah [13:57] (I also have some mixed labs with windows....) [13:57] mhall119|work: about openldap, did it store credentials? [13:57] what do you mean? [13:57] E.g. if the server was down, were the users able to login? [13:57] oh, no, they had to authenticate against the LDAP server [13:58] So no local caching, like the windows servers do it... [13:58] I didn't know windows servers did that [13:58] I know you can have local-logins on windows workstations, but I didn't think they were cached from the directory server [13:59] I think so. If my W2k server is down, the domain users are still able to access the clients, *if* they logged on at least once previously [13:59] I may be wrong; I haven't used that in a very long time [14:00] yeah, I got w2k certified, and don't remember most of it [14:00] So the windows clients authenticated against openldap? Nice! Was that difficult to setup? [14:00] technically they authenticated against Samba [14:01] because they thought it was an NT4 domain controller [14:01] Samba authenticated against OpenLDAP [14:01] Ah, and samba pulled the users from openldap... [14:01] Why use openldap then, and not just the samba users? [14:01] Samba also used OpenLDAP for all the user and group information [14:01] I had a VPN that could authenticate against LDAP also [14:01] also, I wanted an LDAP-based company-wide address book [14:02] for email [14:02] Heh.... LDAP surely sounds powerful, I wonder if it's also easy to setup :) [14:02] it didn't used to be [14:02] Would it be overkill for a small lab with 8-12 clients? [14:02] I hope it's gotten better [14:02] (and maybe 200 students = accounts)? [14:02] not quite overkill, but probably not the simplest solution [14:03] hmm, 200+ accounts, maybe it is the simplest solution [14:03] I think Novell and/or RedHat have directory server offerings that may work better than what I did [14:03] something more akin to Microsoft's Active Directory [14:03] Nah, I'd like to stick to ubuntu [14:03] they may run on Ubuntu [14:04] I think Apache has a directory server too [14:04] Hmmm I should google then :) [14:04] Thanks mhall119|work, that was valuable! [14:04] no problem [14:05] I did this like 5 years ago, when there weren't too many options [14:05] it should be easier for you now [14:05] I've only heard of NIS and LDAP so far, but I'll google for more options... [14:08] mhall119|work: did you have the samba home directories in an ntfs partition, or in an ext3 one? [14:08] in how many hours is the meeting? [14:08] Meeting? what meeting? :D [14:08] * alkisg looks... [14:09] * LaserJock has a screwed up timezone sync since moving to Boston [14:09] it's 17:00 UTC, so that's 13:00 Eastern time? [14:10] Easter time is UTC-4 ?!! [14:10] *n [14:10] I thought so [14:11] Pacific was -7 [14:11] * alkisg is in UTC+3, so doesn't have much idea about Eastern time... [14:12] "Its time offset is −5 hrs GMT or UTC−5 during standard time and UTC−4 during daylight saving time" ==> so yeah 13:00 sounds right... :) [14:14] "date -u" will give you UTC time [14:14] yes, well [14:15] if I was on a Linux machine I'd do that :( [14:15] lol [14:15] it is currently 13:00 UTC [14:15] well, 13:15 [14:15] btw, webchat.freenode.net is the bomb [14:15] and 9:15 Eastern time [15:00] http://etherpad.com/HmQ0jI7Z7w This is my outline for my presentation at the Atlanta Linux Fest, does anyone have any ideas of what to add? [17:57] Edubuntu meeting starting in moments in #ubuntu-meeting. [17:59] Thanks highvoltage! [18:05] supposed to start now anyway :) [18:05] alkisg: how are things? [18:06] highvoltage: fine! I dived into pygtk hacking :) [18:06] nice! [18:06] I didn't realise you knew Python :) [18:07] I dont, actually :) I do know another dozen languages though, so it isn't too difficult... I just need the language reference beside me constantly, though.... [18:07] ...and right after the import/export users I've been writing, I want to try to create an edubuntu remix [18:08] highvoltage, what's the benefit of doing things "the right way" with seeds etc like edubuntu does, as opposed to just customize the live dvd with something like remastersys? [18:08] alkisg: for one, we get to be an official distribution [18:09] alkisg: personally, I'm fine with using remixes as long as they're done right. [18:09] I'm asking because we're thinking of creating a greek edubuntu remix, and try to get it to as many schools as we can [18:09] alkisg: I hope that we come to a stage where we have lots of remixes and where we actively promote them [18:09] alkisg: so I'll even be more than happy to assist you where necessary [18:09] hi [18:10] Nice!!!! I'd really appreciate that! [18:10] hi ace_suares [18:10] Hi ace_suares [18:10] meeting ? [18:10] * alkisg looks around and doesn't see too many people active... [18:11] yep, it's quite quiet. possibly to be expected on a Friday evening :) [18:17] sbalneav: meeting! [20:26] ace_suares: hi [20:26] ace_suares: where is the EdubuntuMeetingAgenda these days? [20:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda doesn't seem to direct anywhere [21:11] highvoltage: it's at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Edubuntu/WikiSite/Meeting/ [21:16] i notice that netbooks are 300.00, thin, and cheap anybody used one for a thin terminal?