[03:20] <twisted_steel> Is there any documentation on debugging bugs that completely lock up a system?
[03:20] <twisted_steel> For example, my computer will completely freeze if I enable compositing and will no longer accept local input or remote input via ssh or pings.
[07:09] <dholbach> good morning
[10:29] <matti> :)
[15:02] <bddebian> Boo
[15:52] <dholbach> #ubuntu-classroom Session in 8 minutes: How to run an Ubuntu Jam session!
[20:13] <Awsoonn_> bug 432114 has cropped up on two of my systems last night. Is there anything I should know?
[20:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 432114 in dbus "GUI/dbus does not start, and network-manager crashes in libdbus" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432114
[20:29] <Awsoonn_> where can I find debuging info for dbus?
[20:49] <davmor2> Awsoonn_: you upgrade at the wrong time.
[20:50] <davmor2> Awsoonn_: try booting up till you get dropped into the console and type:  sudo ifconfig eth0 up and then sudo dhclient then try a dist-upgrade and see if that fixes it for you
[20:50] <Awsoonn_> davmor2: I realise this... now that it's done.... Is there somewhere this is posted when the archive is in an inconsitant state
[20:50] <Awsoonn_> ?
[20:51] <davmor2> Awsoonn_: it wasn't known till peoples systems died too late then :(
[20:51] <Awsoonn_> :( indeed
[20:52] <davmor2> Awsoonn_: let me know if that works for you
[20:54] <Awsoonn_> davmor2: dhclient was the majic command I was looking for, I'll let you know in a minutes
[20:56] <Awsoonn_> davmor2: updates are pulling and I'm smiling like a mad-man
[20:56] <Awsoonn_> < davmor2> Awsoonn_: try booting up till you get dropped into the console and type:  sudo ifconfig eth0 up and then sudo dhclient then try a dist-upgrade and see if that fixes it for you
[20:56] <Awsoonn_> sorry, about the paste...
[20:57] <JEEBsv> Awsoonn_: thanks
[20:57] <JEEBsv> I'll try to get it running as well
[20:57] <JEEBsv> how quickly should the system fall into a console? Several minutes?
[20:58] <davmor2> JEEBsv: do you have an intel i915 gfx card?
[20:59] <JEEBsv> I have intel graphics on an eeepc 900 and the latest batch of updates made it so that I can't boot into anything graphical. I do see some flowing text before the screen going blank and the cpu doing nothing
[20:59] <JEEBsv> I remember seeing i915 in the lspci
[20:59] <JEEBsv> not sure though
[21:00] <davmor2> pitti: filed a bug about that give me a minute
[21:01]  * BlackFate away
[21:02] <davmor2> JEEBsv: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/431812
[21:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 431812 in sysvinit "fbcon loading a mystery (screen powers off)" [High,Confirmed]
[21:04] <JEEBsv> let's see
[21:05] <JEEBsv> now if I only could get into a console :/
[21:06] <davmor2> JEEBsv: Reboot keep you finger on shift go into rescue mode
[21:07] <JEEBsv> thanks
[21:10] <JEEBsv> even doing that seems to invoke some kind of X or something and even pressing ctrl+alt+f1/f2 doesn't seem to get me into console
[21:13] <davmor2> JEEBsv: there a grub boot command that starts just /bin/bash two secs
[21:14] <JEEBsv> okies
[21:17] <Awsoonn_> davmor2: just curious as to why that problem cropped up?
[21:17] <davmor2> upgrade to using upstart instead of init
[21:20] <davmor2> JEEBsv: init=/bin/bash
[21:20] <JEEBsv> okies
[21:21] <BUGabundo> boas
[21:23] <JEEBsv> okies, I'm in
[21:23]  * JEEBsv goes to get his cat5 cable
[21:27] <davmor2> Awsoonn_: is you system back up now?
[21:32] <JEEBsv> humph, that shell doesn't find my eths
[21:33] <JEEBsv> lspci does find the network controller at least
[21:35] <davmor2> JEEBsv: you only need to do comment 11 in that bug I gave you
[21:35] <JEEBsv> okies
[21:35] <davmor2> it should then stop switching your monitor off
[21:36] <davmor2> you can then either boot properly or do the sudo line you were given
[21:37] <JEEBsv> I'll first have to mount the filesystem as writable as well
[21:41] <JEEBsv> okies, generating
[21:42] <JEEBsv> rebooting
[21:44] <davmor2> JEEBsv: any joy?
[21:45] <JEEBsv> not atm, I got "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" during the next boot
[21:46] <JEEBsv> I'll have to check my ext4 :3
[21:48] <JEEBsv> I feel like it'll be a long night for me
[21:49] <davmor2> JEEBsv: the easiest alternative is just drop a new copy of alpha 6 on it
[21:51] <JEEBsv> true
[21:51]  * JEEBsv gets unetbootin
[21:55] <JEEBsv> argh, the only other system I'm at has no root priviledges -.-
[21:55] <JEEBsv> time to go windows I guess
[22:15] <Rocket2DMn> bdmurray, i got an email this morning that I'm going to expire from bugcontrol - can you please renew my membership?
[22:16] <bdmurray> Rocket2DMn: I forget your complete launchpad id ... it is?
[22:16] <Rocket2DMn> https://launchpad.net/~rocket2dmn
[22:17] <bdmurray> well, hmmm I should have been able to figure that one out ;-)
[22:17] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, no problem, it's friday
[22:18] <bdmurray> there is a mismatch between your timezone and your location at your launchpad page fwiw
[22:18] <hggdh> bdmurray: there was also this one: <showard> Hi, could someone reset my bug control account? it's resetting soon. Thanks (showard314)
[22:18] <Rocket2DMn> yeah bdmurray i noticed that, idk why that is
[22:19] <bdmurray> well, I think they are 2 separate settings
[22:20] <bdmurray> hggdh: thanks
[22:20] <Rocket2DMn> ok, i reset my location, not sure how it got changed
[22:21] <Rocket2DMn> thanks for renewing my membership bdmurray , i appreciate it
[22:22] <bdmurray> no problem, thanks for helping out!
[22:23] <Rocket2DMn> my pleasure