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chrisccoulsonhi, could someone from motu-release take a quick look at bug 432169 and let me know if they think i'm ok to go ahead and upload (when I've finished packaging it), or whether I will need to do a FF exception request for it instead?00:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432169 in libgda4 "Please update to 4.0.4" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43216900:12
Laneychrisccoulson: did you see that it's in debian00:14
Laney?00:14
chrisccoulsonLaney - i didn't, but i do now ;)00:15
Laneyalways handy!00:16
chrisccoulsonpah, debian have renamed all of the binary packages00:16
chrisccoulsonthey're different to ours now00:16
Laneyboo00:16
chrisccoulsonit might be best just to update for now and then re-sync with debian next cycle00:17
chrisccoulsonsaying that, it doesn't have many rdepends00:17
chrisccoulsoni suppose if I'm going to do a MIR for libgda4, i should probably rebase it with Debian before that actually00:33
qwebirc69935hello, i'm working on a translation for a program with PoEdit. but the language i'm translating into is RTL so i wanted to test some lines before i continue. is there a way to do that?01:30
qwebirc69935hello, i'm working on a translation for a program with PoEdit. but the language i'm translating into is RTL so i wanted to test some lines before i continue. is there a way to do that?01:38
dholbachgood morning07:09
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slytherinScottK: You had mentioned that using xvfb when building java-gnome will not work on sparc. Is there any particular reason for that?07:47
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dholbachjames_w is doing reviews in #ubuntu-reviews10:08
slytherindholbach: I forgot to tell you think sometime back. I tried merging ttf-indic-fonts but was not successful. I don't have mush knowledge about fonts and hints and wasn't sure which files should go in which package.10:16
dholbachslytherin: best to ask ArneGoetje10:18
dholbachI merely gave it a quick review because I was sponsoring10:19
dholbachArne worked on some splitting of the package10:19
slytherinhmm10:20
rombustHi, I'm after some information to update an existing package. It is "libclanlib", maintainer "Ubuntu MOTU Developers".11:32
rombustIt is using a very old version (0.8), that migrated into 1.0 - That is now unsupported by the clanlib developers.11:32
rombustNow ClanLib 2.0.4 has been released ( http://clanlib.org/examples.html ) - I need to find who (if any) are maintaining the clanlib package11:32
rombust(Note, ClanLib 2.0.0 is not compatible with ClanLib 1.0.0 - And should be treated as a seperate package)11:32
james_wrombust: the last uploader of that package is not on IRC currently11:35
james_whttps://launchpad.net/~andreserl11:35
james_wrombust: you could talk to the Debian/Ubuntu games team as they maintain it11:37
rombustjames_w: Thanks11:39
slytherinjames_w: If you are not too busy can you please review java-gnome in NEW queue and approve it. The package is in queue because of a new -doc binary package.11:45
james_wslytherin: give me a minute and I'll take a look11:49
slytherinthanks11:49
toabctlhi all13:21
toabctldoes anybody know why /dev/log is no more available in karmic?13:21
ScottKslytherin: It (xvfb) is broken on sparc.  It either sefaults or fails to start.13:43
slytherinScottK: Ok.13:43
sistpoty|workhi folks14:08
sebnerhuhu sistpoty|work :D14:10
sistpoty|workhi sebner14:10
walterlhi14:52
walterli'm updating two packages with the new version of package A depending on the new version of package B. how can i add the new version of package B to my pbuilder environment to allow package A to be built?14:53
sistpoty|workwalterl: personally I'm using mini-dinstall to have a local repo and am pointing my sources list of the pbuilder chroot to that as an additional entry14:55
sistpoty|workwalterl: but if it's only one package, you could simply --login --save-after-login and install the package just inside the chroot14:56
walterlsistpoty|work: as in `sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login`?14:56
sistpoty|workwalterl: yes... (this will also print you where the chroot is exctracted, in case you want to copy files from/to it)14:57
walterlsistpoty|work: great, thanks!14:57
sistpoty|worknp14:57
sistpoty|workhi bddebian15:00
sebnerhuhu bddebian :)15:01
bddebianHeya sistpoty|work, sebner15:02
jagadishhello can any body help me how to make at command execute using bash shell instead of sh shell15:25
sebnerjagadish: you can pass SHELL=/bin/bash to the make command15:40
jagadishwhere in the shell script15:40
jagadishdone mind iam new to shell script15:41
sebnerjagadish: in your rules file? when you have a shell script to only have to change the shebang15:45
jagadish#bashcheck15:46
jagadishSHELL=bin/bash15:46
jagadishecho "this is bash sript" > file15:46
jagadish#bashcheck15:46
jagadishSHELL=bin/bash15:46
dholbachsebner: do you know the -v<version> argument for debuild? :)15:46
jagadishecho "this is bash sript" > file15:46
jagadishno i dont know can u help me15:47
sebnerdholbach: heh, sure. I'll tell my laziness :\15:47
sebnerjagadish: I don't really know what you want :\ does it has something todo with -motu?15:51
jagadishi want to execute my shell using bash which is scedule using at utility command15:52
zuldholbach: for the xen-3.4 stuff its probably too late now15:52
dholbach#ubuntu-classroom Session in 8 minutes: How to run an Ubuntu Jam session!15:53
dholbachzul: I just noticed because it's hanging around for a bit longer already15:53
zuldholbach: should I unsubscribe the main-sponsorship?15:53
dholbachzul: if you subscribe to it, and tell the sponsor, I guess it should be fine15:54
zuldholbach: k thanks!15:54
sebnerjagadish: your shellscript just has to use #!/bin/bash as shebang15:54
jagadishya i did it like that only but when i sechduled using at utility command it gives me a waring it is going to execute in /bin/sh15:56
jagadishand prints my scheduled time15:56
wubbbiHello :) how can I help on Developing ubuntu? I have not so much c++ experience ... so are there any tiny things I can do? I got a lot of freetime today :)16:03
dholbachwubbbi: be sure to check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted and take it from there16:03
dholbachall the important documentation is linked to there16:04
ScottKsistpoty|work: I'd appreciate it if you'd look at the matplotlib FFe.  I think we want it and it's ready.16:05
wubbbidholbach: Do you have this side in german too? this would be very helpfull!16:05
sistpoty|workScottK: *looking*16:06
ScottKTHanks.16:06
dholbachwubbbi: I'm afraid not... we're thinking about translating the packaging guide, but that's not done yet16:06
dholbachwubbbi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Videos has some (English videos), if you prefer that16:06
dholbachbut sitll it's English16:06
wubbbiok ... I'll try my best. But in english it it harder to understand for me ^^16:07
RoAkSoAxdholbach, what's the process to apply to u-u-s?16:08
dholbachRoAkSoAx: just tell any of the admins to add you to the team16:09
dholbachI'm not16:09
dholbachbut persia and TheMuso are16:09
dholbachand I guess somebody else too :)16:09
RoAkSoAxdholbach, cool thanks :)16:10
mok0RoAkSoAx: congrats on MOTUism16:12
sebneraloha mok0 :)16:13
mok0yo, sebner!16:13
RoAkSoAxmok0, thank you :)16:13
sebnermok0: everything fine? =)16:13
mok0Uhm, yes16:13
mok0sebner: sunny outside, friday afternoon.... what more can you wish for?16:14
sebnermok0: heh, I still have holidays so I don't really care :P16:14
mok0sebner: out of the grasp of the army?16:15
sebnermok0: yeah, already 2 months ago :) starting with university in 2 weeks16:15
mok0sebner: good for you!16:15
sebnermok0: thx, we'll see ^^16:15
mok0sebner: what subject?16:16
sebnermok0: computer science ... surprise, surprise ... what a surprise ^^16:16
mok0sebner: ah, another one :-)16:16
sebnermok0: more exactly Software and Information Engineering16:16
ScottKIt's more of an art than a science, but whatever ...16:16
sebnerScottK: haha! xD16:17
mok0sebner: how do you "engineer" information? Is that legal? :-P16:17
sebnermok0: pssst, nobody needs to know :P16:17
mok0"I'm in the information engineering business"16:17
sebnerheh16:17
mok0Just one of these crafty buzzword type of things designed to lure students into the fold16:18
mok0;-)16:18
mok0"nano-technology" is the big buzzword thing at my faculty16:18
sebnermok0: hmm, no worries. I can chance next year to computer engineering16:19
sebner*change16:19
mok0sebner: nice16:19
mok0Dunno much about computer science; I do know there's a split between engineering type and the more academic type16:20
sebnermok0: and if everything is too difficult for me I'll choose media informatics *g*16:20
AnAntnhandler: seen LP 40427216:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 404272 in dh-make-perl "FTBFS: tests failed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40427216:20
mok0:-) lol16:20
AnAntmterry: I think you should subscribe motu-release to this bug ^16:21
AnAntmterry: erm, no, sorry16:21
sebnermok0: btw, guess what just happened. The whole days I worked hard to fill ubuntu-archive with sync requests and I really got >50% rate of sync requests and then a overmotivated archive-admin destroyed everything and now I have 0 *g*16:23
sistpoty|workScottK: matplotlib confirmed16:23
ScottKsistpoty|work: Thanks16:23
mok0sebner: yydrk, destroyed, how?16:24
sebnermok0: aka processed the syncs xD16:24
mok0sebner: these were FFE's?16:24
sebnermok0: nope, FTBFS fixes for latest archive rebuild16:25
mok0sebner: wicked16:25
sebnermok0: yeah, 15!16:25
mok0sebner: did you note down which ones they were?16:25
* mok0 never trusts a computer, always has a notebook16:26
sebnermok0: I personally know the names but as the rebuild status site doesn't have a comment field ...16:26
mok0sebner: sigh16:27
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james_wam I being stupid? This python package doesn't call setup.py install before dh_install17:12
james_wI thought that it would17:12
RoAkSoAxScottK, any ideas on the nginx backport issue?17:19
ScottKRoAkSoAx: I didn't get a chance to look at in in detail yet.  Probably tonight or tomorrow.17:19
RoAkSoAxScottK, ok cool, thanks :)17:19
james_wwha?17:22
james_wcdbs runs setup.py install after arch: all debs have been built but before arch: any debs are built?17:23
leonelbeta freeze will be on  sept 24.  That's the  deadline for ubuntu universe package changes ?17:28
ScottKleonel: It depends on the kind of changes.  We'll keep fixing stuff up past the RC freeze.17:29
james_wScottK: last release you had some ideas about making universe upload freezes better around release time17:31
james_ware we going to change them to match this time?17:32
leonelScottK  Long time no see ,   Debian unstable has  cherokee 0.99.22  and karmic  has  0.99.19    I've pushed  0.99.24 to Debian unstable and is on queue for inclusion,  so  the last date is  sept 24 for cherokee 0.99.24  ??17:33
ScottKleonel: Yes.  Is it bug fixes or new features too?17:34
ScottKjames_w: I did.  We froze way before we needed to due to security in soyuz.17:35
leonelScottk  both,  cherokee  is a fast moving target, and getting ready for  version 1.017:35
ScottKleonel: Then you'll need to ask for a feature freeze exception and we'll review it.17:35
ScottKjames_w: It looks like mirror sync before release is the driver for when the last upload for Universe can happen now.  I need to bring this up at a release team meeting.  Thanks for reminding me.17:36
leonelScottK ok17:36
james_wScottK: great, thanks for trying to improve this17:37
lamalexCan someone help me figure out why my quilt-generated patch isn't applying when building the deb?17:37
ScottKlamalex: Is it listed in debian/patches/series?17:38
lamalexit's failing to find the appropriate level, shouldn't that be automagic with quilt?17:38
lamalexScottK: yeah, it's attempting to apply and failing17:38
ScottKYou have to specify the first time you import it, IIRC, but I'm not a quilt expert.17:38
james_wyou can also specify it in the series file17:41
james_wI'm pretty sure it's not automagix17:42
lamalexhm. ive got no idea how to figure out what level it should apply at17:43
tarundeephow can I start contributing to ubuntu developmenet17:50
lamalexah, got it17:56
lamalexoriginal maintainer had apparently copied and pasted their rules file and had a rule for a patch system they weren't using!17:57
leonelScottK Just checked with main debian maintainer for cherokee  and we need to do some repackaging before  0.99.24 gets into unstable so   the current version in Debian Unstable is 99.22  and karmic has  0.99.19   can a merge be done ?18:07
ScottKIf it has new features, you still need to do the FFe, but probably.18:07
leonelok thanks18:08
randomactiontarundeep: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted18:14
tarundeepthanks18:15
tarundeepI am following the instructions on following page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate but while doing  debuild -S -sa I get following error - Now signing changes and any dsc files...18:34
tarundeep signfile brasero_0.6.1-ubuntu4.dsc MY NAME <MY EMAIL> gpg: skipped "MY NAME": secret key not available - although I can see keys in GNU Privacy Assistant18:34
randomactionIf you're not really going to upload the package, you can build it with debuild -S -uc -us18:38
randomactioni.e. without signing it18:38
tarundeepok if i want to upload the package than how to sign it ?18:38
wubbbiI have sendet my gnupg key 10000 times to the key server. But I still cant use it on launchpad -.-18:38
wubbbigpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys .... is this wrong?18:39
tarundeepwubbbi: I am also facing same problem, I have also uploaded key to keyserver but it is not visible18:39
wubbbiis the keyserver broken atm?18:39
geseris your key visible on other keyservers?18:47
geseras the keyservers exchange the keys you can choose the keyserver you want for uploading your key18:47
tarundeepok I will try that thanks18:49
sebnergeser: you're lucky that I can upload myself. 15 sync requests and ~5 uploads to fix FTBFS \o/18:50
gesernice18:51
sebnergeser: for a short period of time I was responsible for >50% of the sync requests for ubuntu-archive :P18:54
wubbbiWhat is going on with the ubuntu keyserver? oO19:29
wubbbiok ... I have done the tutorial for ubuntu development. Now. What can I do?19:42
ScottKwubbbi: I think there is a session on fixing build failures in #ubuntu-classroom in ~15 minutes.  Join that and see what you find to do.19:44
* ScottK hopes he got the time right.19:44
wubbbiScottK: ok thank you19:44
sebnerScottK: yep 19 UTC19:51
sebnersistpoty: good timing ^^19:57
sistpotysebner: heh, yes... just finished eating and getting my system back up :)19:57
sebnerheh :)19:58
asomethingFTBFS session starting now in #ubuntu-classroom20:06
dhillon-v10hi andv20:13
RainCTAnyone got Ubuntu One working on Debian?20:45
funkyHatRunning pbuilder --create puts a file in /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz - but running pbuilder-dist karmic build looks for the tgz in ~/pbuilder/karmic-base.tgz21:41
funkyHatHave I done something wrong?21:41
psusiI'm trying to setup an install with debootstrap, but run into issues when chrooting into the new system to install more packages... for instance, at fails to install because it can't start the daemon ( of course it can't, it's already running on the real system and should not try to start again inside the chroot ), am I doing something wrong?21:41
geserfunkyHat: pbuilder itself supports only one pbuilder, pbuilder-dist is a wrapper around pbuilder to support several pbuilders (e.g. different Ubuntu releases)21:47
funkyHatgeser: oh, so I should be using pbuilder-dist when creating as well?21:47
geserso either create one with pbuilder-dist karmic create (or move your existing base.tgz to the by pbuilder-dist expected location)21:48
funkyHatOk :)21:48
funkyHatThanks21:48
funkyHatYeah, I did that and it worked21:48
directhexi don't have pbuilder-dist21:55
directhexi have a custom pbuilderrc which uses environment vars to allow multiple builders21:55
gesersistpoty: a ...+dsfg-1 upload doesn't need a FFe if it's for the same upstream version, right?21:58
sistpotygeser: I consider stripping non-free sources a bugfix, so if that's the only change, no FFe needed21:59
gesersistpoty: the other changes are packaging changes: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pdftk/news/20090918T120217Z.html22:01
geserit's to fix bug 38451522:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 384515 in pdftk "pdftk - Files - Sun confidential code" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38451522:01
sistpotygeser: it's not really over my threshold for a FFe...22:04
sistpotygeser: though the "doesn't work" thingy you wrote in the bug report should be fixed :O22:05
gesersistpoty: the current version in karmic works, but contains those problematic source files22:05
gesermy attempt to fix it didn't work22:05
gesernow there is a version in debian that fixes it and works :)22:06
sistpotygeser: ah, excellent22:06
sistpotygeser: just quote me in the sync request that no FFe is needed22:06
sebnersistpoty: I'm always wondering if anyone have/will fake such a quote *hrhr*22:07
sistpotysebner: I'm reading -changes and sometimes look at sync request to ensure it's all ok :P22:11
sebnersistpoty: sometimes :P22:11
sistpotyhehe22:11
gesersebner: now you are being watched by sistpoty to not to try it :)22:27
sebnergeser: hehe, don't worry I usually request a FFe for stuff (games!) sistpoty ACKes volunteering with pleasure :P22:28
* sistpoty always checks if critical changes to games still work... that's a tough job *g*22:29
sebnerWe spent hours and hours of our freetime to check carefully if really __everything__ is OKAY! *hrhr*22:30
sebner*spend even22:30
rowinggolfer_help needed, my karmic box is upgrading. and has asked this question22:32
rowinggolfer_Setting up cups-pdf (2.5.0-8) ...22:32
rowinggolfer_ * Reloading Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                          [ OK ]22:32
rowinggolfer_Password for root on localhost?22:32
rowinggolfer_a root password? this is ubuntu... I'm lost... help!22:33
sistpotyrowinggolfer_: can you ask tkamppeter (in #ubuntu-devel) about that? afaict the reason for this might be the ppd auto-update feature, so the fix should be known... (and eventually already be uploaded to proper, but tkamppeter knows for sure)22:36
rowinggolfer_sistpoty, thanks. will do22:36
rowinggolfer_sistpoty, ta.. they sorted me out.22:40
c_kornhello, I am trying to fix gambas2. it FTBFS because of the const char* to char* conversion thing. it fails in line 5 here. http://pastebin.com/d3445f605 currently I do not find another solution than just doing a cast there.22:43
sistpotyc_korn: you could copy the string (strcpy) perform the substituion there, and use the copy to lookup the result22:47
sistpotyc_korn: but you'd need to make sure to free the copied string then again22:47
sistpotyc_korn: need an example?22:48
c_korneh, would be better. I did not code in C for years.22:50
sistpotyc_korn: I'll do it right in pastebin, so I hope that it will compile ;)22:51
c_kornfine22:51
sistpotyc_korn: http://pastebin.com/m3ad8b33e22:53
adorilson_hi22:54
sistpotyc_korn: eventually you'll need to #include <assert.h> (or <cassert> for c++) for the assertion22:54
sistpotyhi adorilson_22:54
adorilson_can i report packages bug on ubuntu 9.04?22:54
adorilson_( sorry, my english. english is not my native language )22:55
sistpotyadorilson_: ideally with ubuntu-bug <packagename> on a shell ;)22:55
adorilson_the zend-framework package is bugged22:55
adorilson_sistpoty, it's nice. i don't knowed22:57
sistpotyfunkyHat: libofa uploaded, thanks!22:58
sistpotyadorilson_: you're welcome22:58
funkyHatyay :)22:58
sistpoty(sorry, was distracted so I didn't get around to uploading it earlier)22:58
funkyHatsistpoty: that's fine, geser helped me correct an error I had with my initial patch anyway :)22:59
sistpoty:)22:59
c_kornsistpoty: ah, so the call to strchr() with the char* as argument executes the implementation which also returns a char* ? and this can then be modified.23:00
c_kornwhat happens if the assertion fails ? does the app crash ? or just output an error to &2 ?23:03
c_korn(well if s is NULL the app will propably crash anyway)23:04
geserc_korn: strchr() points to the first occurance of the second argument in the string (1st argument) and returns a pointer to it. if it a r/w variable (char *) you get a pointer which can also be modified, if you used it on a read-only variable (const char *) you get a pointer which is also const char *23:05
chrisccoulsonc_korn - strchr returns a pointer to the first occurrence of the character you specify. so, if you pass a const char*, then the returned pointer will also be a const char*23:05
chrisccoulsonheh,  what geser said ;)23:05
c_kornheh, thanks geser and chrisccoulson23:05
sistpotyc_korn: it will abort() so it will crash, but that happens only if there's no memory left (which is pretty fatal anyways)23:06
geserc_korn: it will crash, but if strcpy() fails you are doomed anyway23:06
sistpotyheh23:06
c_korn:) thanks23:07
adorilson_sistpoty, what command list the archives is in a package?23:08
sistpotyadorilson_: I'm sorry, I don't quite understand... do you mean if it is in main or in universe?23:09
sistpotyadorilson_: or do you mean the contents of the package?23:09
geserapt-cache madison $pkg is what I use23:09
adorilson_I mean the contents of the package23:09
sistpotyadorilson_: dpkg -L <package>23:09
c_kornor apt-file list <package> if it is not installed23:10
geserif it's installed, if you have a deb then "less", else packages.ubuntu.com23:10
c_kornhm, main.cpp:1023: error: invalid conversion from ‘int’ to ‘Dataset*’23:15
c_kornsistpoty: line 15 of your paste fails with this error http://pastebin.com/m3ad8b33e23:17
adorilson_sistpoty, dpkg -L is work. thanks23:17
sistpotynp23:17
c_kornhm, yes. ret should be of type int23:18
sistpotyc_korn: sorry, yes, you're correct... (that's the problem with /me doing a patch in pastebin... I don't get the matching bracket highlighted there *g*)23:19
adorilson_sistpoty, is ok this report? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zend-framework/+bug/43278323:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432783 in zend-framework "Package don't have any archives" [Undecided,New]23:20
sistpotyadorilson_: yes, thanks!23:20
sistpotyadorilson_: without really knowing, maybe the files are in a dependency (here in libzend-framework-php)?23:22
adorilson_sistpoty, I think don't. because I don't found the shell scripts zf*23:24
sistpotyadorilson_: can you add this to the bug report please?23:25
adorilson_sistpoty, yes, sure23:25
sistpotythanks!23:26
c_kornsistpoty: it compiled successfully. thanks.23:28
sistpoty:)23:28
sistpotystrange debian/rules, courier: if [ `umask` != "0022" ]; then echo "You need to set umask to 022 in order to compile/build courier"; exit 1; fi23:38
adorilson_sistpoty, the report bug is updated23:43
ScottKsistpoty: courier is a 'fun' package.  I've given it to people as a merge for a final exam when going for MOTU.23:46
ScottKOne person gave up and never came back.23:46
sistpotyadorilson_: thanks23:49
sistpotyScottK: heh, yeah :)23:49
c_kornsistpoty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gambas2/+bug/432792 there is the debdiff attached23:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432792 in gambas2 "FTBFS: invalid conversion from const char* to char*" [Undecided,New]23:53
sistpotyc_korn: /me looks23:54
sistpotyc_korn: from a glimpse it looks good, test-building. If you haven't done so, can you forward the patch please?23:55
c_kornsistpoty: it builds fine here. so I should forward to debian using submittodebian ?23:56
sistpotyc_korn: yes23:56
sistpoty(/me uses reportbug -B debian <sourcepackage> since he hasn't installed ubuntu-dev-tools *g*23:56

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