[00:02] Hmm, looks like my mythbackend schema is too old to connect to with the live image's frontend :( [00:16] Is the 'persistent' part of the live test case applicable to mythbuntu? === fader_ is now known as fader|away [06:36] fader|away: that is known, but not a show stopper as you'll see it sanely handle it. :) [06:36] thanks. [08:26] Morning all === asac_ is now known as asac [09:21] hey davmor2 [09:22] hi ara [11:34] * ara is feeling tired... TGIF [11:37] * davmor2 Awww hugs ara and hands her a huge cup of coffee [11:38] * ara hugs davmor2 back :) [11:42] ara: these 71 hour weeks do take a toll ;) [11:43] davmor2, indeed :) === fader|away is now known as fader_ [13:54] Howdy y'all [13:59] ohh, managed to boot to kde [14:54] fader_: morning dude [14:54] cr3: how's things there [14:55] davmor2: Hey dude [14:55] davmor2: I got a bunch of test results from yesterday, working on a couple more machines this morning [14:55] davmor2: I have a question for you -- is the live CD test for mythbuntu accurate? I could not get the 'persistent' test case to work [14:55] fader_: no bad news to day it's friday ;) [14:55] davmor2: I don't trust you :P [14:55] davmor2: apart from a few known problems reported by apport, my only real problem is with the aspire one [14:56] cr3: AAO what's up? [14:56] fader_: do you happen to be in lexington today? [14:56] davmor2: see bug #432497, I suspect it might be a problem with the hard drive [14:56] fader_: did you know there is a bug about that ;) [14:56] Launchpad bug 432497 in checkbox "Installing Karmic 20090917 on Acer Aspire One freezes on detecting filesystems" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432497 [14:56] cr3: I do... trying to track down some hardware that pgraner says is here but nobody else has ever heard of :( [14:57] davmor2: No, I didn't... but I also didn't look for one as my brain was fried and I could barely read at that point ;) [14:57] fader_: if I take responsibility for tracking hardware, I'll ask to expense a whip [14:57] cr3: I'm going to borrow davmor2's axe [14:57] fader_: iirc it's a kubuntu bug but it will be the same thing I think jtholmes filed it [14:58] davmor2: Okay, cool... I'll try to find that one and keep an eye on it. I'm glad there's a bug filed though as I don't want to have to go reproduce it now to file one :) [14:58] my axe, mine, i tell you muhahahahahahaha [14:58] * fader_ imagines davmor2 as a bearded dwarf. [14:59] Too tall for a dwarf think VIKING :) [15:01] Right kernel buggin' music search [15:02] davmor2: techno viking even! [15:03] cr3: don't they make memory? [15:03] I bet techno vikings terrorize the skies in their longjets. [16:08] ogasawara: Okay 64 bit system on faulty nvidia box is up. next installing the older kernel. leann is there a magic way of doing this and getting it to show up in grub2? goes off to google at the same time [16:10] davmor2: hrm, it's not listed? [16:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/430141 [16:11] Launchpad bug 430141 in grub2 "No second OS is shown up in grub2" [High,New] [16:11] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/430940 [16:11] Launchpad bug 430940 in linux "On my nvidia box the system is running at double speed" [Undecided,Incomplete] [16:11] even [16:13] ogasawara: is it just a case of going through and installing all the bits or can I sign into the ppa and grab it that way? [16:14] davmor2: unfortuantely I think you'll have to install manually [16:14] no probs [16:36] ogasawara: meh linux-headers-2.6.31-8-generic_2.6.31-8.28_amd64.deb doesn't install depends on linux-headers-2.6.31-8 [16:41] davmor2: hrmph, can you try http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31-rc8/ instead? [16:43] fader_, cr3: mine is an AA0 110 with the ssd drive I can test after but one issue at a time guys [16:44] o_O [16:44] davmor2: cool, I'm getting ata errors, so this might be different with your ssd drive [16:45] cr3: Have you decided whether it's a hardware issue or not? [16:46] Because the hdd and ssd should have the same interface... if it's a software problem I'd expect to see it on both [16:47] fader_: I'm still not sure [16:47] Gotcha... useful test then :) [17:11] ogasawara: Meh not working. I've burnt a jaunty cd and it's showing up on that to. So for now leave the bug open I'm going the strip down the box and see if there is a HW fault. Then I'll try again [17:12] davmor2: odd, ok keep me posted. [17:12] if it works then All is well and I'll close the bug [17:26] fader_, cr3: I'm assuming that this is UNR your running ? [17:32] fader_ cr3: right UNR installing (hopefully) I'll get back to you in a bit. [17:38] davmor2: I suspect it won't make much difference in this particular case [17:38] 51% installed now so no looking back :) [17:42] 65% [17:46] davmor2: No!!!1!one It's a trap! If you use UNR, then existence is meaningless! [17:46] It's the heeeestory eraser button, you fool! [17:46] 94% :P [17:47] song: it's the end of the world as we know just dropped into my head :) [17:47] Darn, it doesn't look like YouTube has a clip of the Ren & Stimpy with the history eraser button :( [17:48] (The shiny, candy-like button!) [17:55] fader_, cr3: looks like it's a HDD only issue guys. booted up everything seem fine here [17:56] fader_, cr3: any logs worth looking at to double check? [17:57] fader_: whatever you do, don't touch that button [17:58] davmor2: nah, I think I'll wait for some kernel folks to confirm whether it's a hardware problem or compatibility problem [17:58] The beautiful, shiny button? The jolly, candy-like button? [17:58] Can he resist? [17:58] Will he hold out? [17:59] Can he hold out? [17:59] * cr3 steps out for lunch before fader erradicates history at the mere push of a button [18:00] damn pressed the fscking thing [18:05] who are you guys and what are you doing on my whatsit [19:22] davmor2, do the daylies created on sat and sun have as much input and changes as those spun on mon thru fri [19:22] or are they just copies of fri night and just respun [19:25] jtholmes: they're built based on the current state of the archive, but the archive probably does change less over the weekend. [19:25] sbeattie, that is what i thought since few folks would desire to work 7 days a week thx for the info [19:30] sbeattie, while we are on the subject do you kno why kubuntu desktop was not spun for today 9/18 16.2 and 17 are there but 9/18 [19:31] I suspect the automated build cronjobs were disabled for alpha 6, and will be renabled soon. [19:31] (but that's purely a guess) [19:31] ok thx sounds right [19:32] sbeattie: normally restarted for monday. But might be a bit earlier this time to get some more of the fixes in place [19:33] yeah, there's a cryptsetup fix that would be handy to get into isos real soon now. [19:33] and a wubi, grub2, nfs and ....... [19:34] * sbeattie grins [19:34] davmor2, the initrd on the livecd is initrd.lz can you tell me what compressor function is used to produce a suffix of .lz [19:34] lzma [19:35] sbeattie, ok that was my guess thx [19:38] Oh, hawt: "Estimated build start: in 9 hours" [19:39] sbeattie: What? [19:40] davmor2: oh, just trying to build a zsync backport in my ppa, and checking out how long before it'll get built. [19:40] cd builds must be on to day then ;) [19:40] davmor2: BTW, do you see zsync segfaults when downloading the dvds on hardy - jaunty? [19:42] sbeattie: just mailed you my cronjob read out [19:42] davmor2: kewl, thanks. [19:43] sbeattie: no probs [19:44] sbeattie: I have noticed a number of rcksums appearing [19:44] in iso [19:44] hrm, yeah. [19:44] I've got 9 now [19:44] you can kill them. [19:44] they're tmp files created by zsync. [19:44] I just delete them off every now and then [19:44] and, yep, it's segv'ing for you. [19:46] sbeattie: that would be bad if I gave a damn about testing the dvd's but they take far too long ;) [19:46] bah, I need to trap for errors when that happens, and move zsync's partial download over so that rsync can make use of it. [19:47] davmor2: my bandwidth is so limited that I can't keep the dvd isos up-to-date. [19:47] sbeattie: is all of hardy now zsyncing then I thought it was all rsynced any way? [19:48] sbeattie: wounder how come? [19:49] sbeattie: oh don't worry I forgot your in America land of the free and slowband ;) [19:50] davmor2: hardy is not zsync'ing, correct, though I need to verify some behaviors around that situation as well. [19:50] sbeattie: what do you need dude? [19:50] davmor2: well, I *could* have faster bandwidth, but then I wouldn't be allowed to host servers and whatnot. [19:51] ec2 it's all about the cloud ;) [19:56] davmor2 you also forgot that we are no longer the land of the free, the govt want to take over the running or our lives :( [19:58] sbeattie: What are you hosting that you couldn't host on a faster connection? [19:59] jtholmes: been like that here for years you get used to it honest, shhh they told me to say that it suck run, get out while you can ;) [20:00] we are going down fighting but the folks we elected in Washington have their own agenda and call us a bunch or radicals that want to bring the govt down [20:00] fader_: I host my own email/web blah on a static ip dsl line; switching to faster here means jumping to cabal^H^Hle, which gets mail blocked for sure, and likely web as well. [20:01] sbeattie: Ah, yeah... I thought everybody gave up hosting their own mail once all the big ISPs started blacklisting anything coming from a consumer ISP [20:01] though for the web port 8080 is open everywhere ;) [20:02] sbeattie: Or you could get a host in a DC somewhere and upgrade at home and have the best of both worlds ;) [20:02] ogasawara: Okay that's weird I got an onboard nvidia gfx card on the box that is playing up. So I removed the nvidia gfx card and the speed up problem has gone away. [20:02] fader_: there's also the fact that I'm a cheapskate. :-) [20:02] Hehe touche. [20:04] sbeattie: Why would you lose the ability to host a server if you take the other route? [20:05] ogasawara: I should say I removed the removable pci express gfx card and the problem went away. [20:06] I'm going to assume there fore that it is an issue with the pci express bus for now and have a hunt online see if there is a bios upgrade [20:09] davmor2: Not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US most ISPs are divided up something like $50/month for a 'home' plan with port 80 and 25 blocked, or $200/month for a 'small business' plan at half the speed but with a static IP and no ports blocked [20:11] fader_, i pay about $40 mo. for static AT&T and no ports blocked about 3mb sec [20:11] in the US [20:11] jtholmes: Huh, I thought AT&T blocked port 80 [20:11] fader_: hmmm I pay £35 a month for 20 meg no ports blocked [20:12] fader_, no when you have static ip as far as i know [20:12] Meh, I'm happy enough with my 25M FiOS line, despite it being like $60/mo [20:12] no=not [20:12] * jpds is thankful that his landlord pays his Internet bill. [20:13] fader_: That what I'm paying for mine now. However I could upgrade to 50meg [20:13] i cant get at&t uverse which is higher speed but not avail in my area yet [20:14] Last time I was unemployed I realized that I'd prefer to not have hot water over not having interwebs... it was a bit of a creepy realization :) [20:14] by the way you could redirect to dnydns and port switch there to lose the 80 25 restriction but shhh I didn't say that ;) [20:16] then just use you firewall to port switch back or config your server to a different port. Come on guys think outside the box ;) [20:17] davmor2: Meh, port 22 isn't blocked for me, which is all I really need. I'd rather have my webserver on 8080 anyway, as I get a lot less spam in my httpd logs from script kiddies trying to knock over IIS [20:17] (as if that were difficult) [20:17] thanks for the port info, i have a hoster for my domain so that is why i dont get involved with that but i have tucked it away for future ref thx [20:19] fader_: IIS, did you actually have the nerve to say IIS on an open logged channel, that you use the inferior IIS over Ubuntu server ;) [20:19] davmor2: He didn't say he was using IIS? [20:19] davmor2: Whoa, no -- I said that I get a lot of logspam of people blindly looking for IIS servers to zombie [20:20] Generally anything I hang out on the net is on Linux on PPC, just to make sure that if anybody cracks it, they at least know what they're doing [20:20] fader_: I know that but the thought of the look of panic on your face muhahahahaha [20:21] s/panic/horror and incredulity/ [20:22] fader_: You might want to use a great little tool called denyhosts if you don't already :) [20:23] Nah, it's more fun to read the latest reports on SANS and then count the number of attempts on my box :) [20:27] fader_: denyhosts emails you to say this twonk failed [20:27] and then blocks their ip [20:28] which of course would be bad for you being as you would need to get you username and pass right :P [20:29] how could anyone forget their first and last name :) [20:30] quick everyone hack John holmes box [20:31] yeah lets get john holmes he is my cousin i am jt holmes :) [20:31] r u hearing those voices again today! [20:32] i'll bet u sharpened your axe last eve [20:33] fader_, where is this SANS report i would like to c if folks are trying my box [20:34] jtholmes: SANS is an organization that promotes security and keeps tabs on the net: http://sans.org/ [20:34] davmor2, is there a test tracking url for the alpha or just for the dailies [20:34] fader_, thx [20:35] They're a great resource for security stuff and provide certifications and training classes [20:35] good [20:35] tracker is only for releases [20:35] ok [20:38] jtholmes: if you want somewhere to log daily reports goto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/DailySmoke [20:38] ok saw that kicked around and wondered what it was used for thx [20:40] jtholmes: just don't keep the page open I need it :) [20:40] ok === fader_ is now known as fader|away [21:30] sbeattie: do you have a raw karmic box available? [21:31] ultimate raw extreme? [21:32] davmor2: if by raw, you mean on raw hardware, yes, I do. [21:32] sbeattie: No just a fresh install [21:32] yeah, I do. [21:33] sbeattie: can you try the totem youtube plugin. It pulls in the H.264 codec it needs then say it can't access. If you restart totem and select a clip from youtube then it plays but I get no sound [21:37] sbeattie: also try playing the clip from examples and see if totem just greys out after playing it please [21:39] davmor2: which clip from examples? [21:40] spirit of ubuntu in the free culture showcase [21:48] sbeattie: anything?