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bdmurraymathiaz: still around?00:09
mathiazbdmurray: yes!00:10
bdmurrayTraceback (most recent call last):00:10
bdmurray  File "./dailynewbugs.py", line 88, in <module>00:10
bdmurray    if task.date_created.date() <= end_date:00:10
bdmurrayAttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'date'00:10
bdmurrayqa.ubuntu.com is running hardy00:10
bdmurrayand an older version of launchpadlib00:10
mathiazbdmurray: hmmm00:10
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mathiazbdmurray: of course I was developing on karmic :/00:11
bdmurrayright who would use hardy...00:12
martin-rightscalsmoser: you still around?00:12
mathiazbdmurray: well - launchpadlib wasn't in hardy either00:12
mathiazbdmurray: it seems that this is the problem00:12
mathiazbdmurray: which version of launchpadlib is installed?00:13
bdmurray0.2~bzr25-0ubuntu1~CAT.8.04.100:13
bdmurrayI can probably sort this out00:13
maurenanyone using bazaar00:22
maurenI'm going to make myself a development environment tomorrow. I was thinking about bazar.00:22
maurenI've never actually used a revision control system before *shame*00:22
* mauren prays00:23
maurenIsnt it supposed to be more distributed and has some coupling with launchpad/00:24
mauren?00:24
uvirtbotNew bug: #432810 in libvirt (main) "[karmic] Can't start qemu system VMs via virt-manager due to AppArmor error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43281000:26
maurenI've read about cvs, svn and bzr, and the impression I get is that people don't like bazar mainly because they're already accustomed to another revision control system.?00:26
bdmurraymathiaz: okay all sorted - http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/00:32
mathiazbdmurray: this is awesome!00:34
mathiazbdmurray: are the cron jobs setup correclty?00:34
bdmurraymathiaz: in a moment00:35
bdmurraymathiaz: I might send you the hardy patches too00:36
mathiazbdmurray: yes - if you could actually push a bzr branch00:36
mathiazbdmurray: and let me know where it is - I'll merge it00:36
bdmurraymathiaz: its really irritating that date objects are different depending which version of launchpadlib you have00:37
erichammondmauren: I've used cvs and svn seriously for over a decade, and others before that (rcs, ClearCase, ...).  I recently picked up a little bzr so I could interact with launchpad and didn't have any complaints about it.  git seems more fashionable outside of Ubuntu at the moment, but I think bzr would be a fine place to start given what I've seen.00:38
maurenalright00:39
maurenerichammond thanks for your input00:39
ScottKOn a commercial project I'm involved in they just picked bzr due to the extreme pain associated with using git when you haven't used it before.00:39
maureni've always used SVN00:40
ScottKTo start with bzr, you can bzr co, bzr up, bzr ci, just like you would with svn.00:40
ScottKThen you can learn to use it as a dvcs on a pace you decide.00:41
maurennice00:42
maureni'll give it a try now00:42
ScottKThat was another consideration for the other project.  No immediate hate from svn users.00:42
erichammond:)00:42
mauren:P00:49
cemcI just moved my 9.04 install from a hdd to another. everything's working fine except the network, which I'm not sure why but doesn't want to (at least the ipv4 part, it's getting no ip address, no nothing). any ideas?01:06
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jmarsdencemc: Different NICs -- and so different MAC addresses?  or was the HD really the only thing that changed?01:52
s0|hello, what command (or serieries of commands) can i use to determine the model of 3ware raid card that a machine has in it?02:26
jmarsdens0|: lspci  is probably a start02:27
XiXaQis it ok to put my FQDN in /etc/hostname or should I only use the machines name without any dots?02:28
s0|jmarsden, thanks, couldn't seem to put a good enough google string togeather to get that.02:28
jmarsdens0|: No problem.02:28
jmarsdenXiXaQ: You can use the FQDN if you wish to, bit it is more common to use the short name in there.  When you are done, hostname should output the short name, dnsdomainname should output your domain, and hostname --fqdn  should output the whole thing.02:32
jmarsdenXiXaQ: Also check /etc/mailname   if you are editing this stuff by hand.02:32
Vashta_Neradahow do i turn off telnet?  (telnetd actually)02:33
Vashta_Neradaubuntu 9.0402:34
Vashta_Neradai think i turned it on, now that I have ssh up and running i want to disable it02:35
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: sudo apt-get purge inetutils-telnetd     But how did you "accidentally" turn it on??02:35
Vashta_Neradano i turned it on02:35
Vashta_Neradai mean i believe it was not on by default02:35
Vashta_Neradaand i wanted it on02:35
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: Right, telnetd is not installed by default, because it is a huge security risk.02:36
Vashta_Neradaright02:36
jmarsdenSo to undo that, you just uninstall the package.02:36
Vashta_Neradathis is not a mission critical server, it's my let's learn linux server02:36
Vashta_Neradathank you sir02:37
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: Sure.. but be careful.   You'll "learn" alright, if it gets hacked and someone on another continent uses it to spam half the planet, or to distribute child porn or whatever...!02:37
Vashta_Neradai see02:38
Vashta_Neradawell, i suppose i can use wireshark to make sure it's not doing wacky stuff right?02:39
jmarsdenIn other words, servers can be worth hacking into even if they contain no valuable data... they end up being used for bad things... so you should keep all machines on the Internet secure, whether they are just learning machines or production servers.02:39
Vashta_Neradai hear ya02:40
jmarsdenWireshark might show you the traffic, unless the bad guys tweaked libpcap to hide their traffic, or something like that -- possible, but unlikely.02:40
Vashta_Nerada i could re-install just in case02:40
jmarsdenSure, that would be one way to be a lot more sure.02:41
Vashta_Neradaweird02:41
Vashta_Neradawould you like me to show you the output02:41
Vashta_Neradado you guys use a pastebin?02:42
jmarsdenuse any one you like... pastebin.ubuntu.com is fine02:42
jmarsdenIf you install pastebinit you can do pastebin-creation from the command line, which is often convenient.02:43
Vashta_Neradahttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273876/02:44
Vashta_Neradadid i get rd of it? should i remove any of that other stuff?02:45
jmarsdenSo you didn't have inetutils-telnetd installed, and you have a few packages you no longer need.02:45
Vashta_Neradayeah, i'm confused actually02:45
jmarsdenAre you sure you *have* telnetd running?02:45
Vashta_Neradabecause telnet works02:45
Vashta_Neradawell, no, i'm a n00b02:45
jmarsdenOK, what does    sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :23      output02:45
Vashta_Neradai thought i did because of another session02:45
Vashta_Neradatcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:23              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2202/inetd02:46
XiXaQjmarsden, thanks. How does it know the fqdn if I don't add it to /etc/hostname? reverse dns?02:46
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: Hmmm, so inetd is listening on port 23...02:47
Vashta_Neradai guess so....02:47
jmarsdenXiXaQ: More likely the entry in /etc/hosts02:47
Vashta_Neradahmmm02:47
Vashta_Neradai'm not sure what that means02:47
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: What did you do to enable telnet, exactly?02:47
Vashta_Neradaso i didn't have to sit at the desk02:47
XiXaQjmarsden, oh, that works both ways? Ip to hostname as well?02:48
jmarsdenXiXaQ: It's mildly complicated, but yes.  The hostname man page says in part:    Technically: The FQDN is the name gethostbyname(2) returns for the host name returned by gethostname(2).  The DNS02:49
jmarsden       domain name is the part after the first dot.02:49
Vashta_Neradai also tried to enable vnc and nx for pretty much the same reason02:49
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: No, I don't care about *why*, I care about what you actually *did* to enable telnet... what commands did you type to enable it?02:50
Vashta_Nerada: /02:50
Vashta_Neradaidk02:50
jmarsdenHow is this "learning", if you do not know what you have done?02:51
Vashta_Neradalol02:51
XiXaQjmarsden, are there any negative side effects of putting an FQDN in /etc/hostname?02:51
jmarsdenXiXaQ: Not that I know of, but it's not something I have done in the Ubuntu world.02:52
XiXaQok, thanks. I guess I'll read up on this :)02:52
Vashta_Neradawell i guess i've learned something02:52
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: I'll check for what you might have done to get inetd listening on pport 23...02:53
Vashta_Neradahow will you do that02:53
jmarsdenCombination of google, apt-file and looking around on my own machines :)02:54
jmarsdenDo you have inetutils-inetd installed?02:54
Vashta_Neradadude, i couldn't tell ya02:55
jmarsdenWhat does dpkg -l inetutils-inetd    output?02:55
Vashta_Neradayou're making me think i should re-do the whole machine and use a notebook for the next one02:55
jmarsdenThat would probably be good, actually :)02:56
Vashta_Neradahttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273880/02:57
jmarsdenBTW, you might want to read through http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html02:57
jmarsdenOK, the un means the package is not installed.  So something else installed inetd and set it to listen on port 23...02:58
Vashta_Neradai will do that02:58
Vashta_Neradai did get an A in my intro to linux class though02:58
Vashta_Neradathat was two years ago though02:59
Vashta_Neradai'm not bragging, trust me, i forgot a lot02:59
jmarsdenSo hopefully reading through it will be a good refresher and bring you back up to speed.02:59
Vashta_Neradaand this is debian that was fedora02:59
Vashta_Neradayes sir it will02:59
Vashta_Neradaand i'll try to get to it02:59
Vashta_Neradaworking on my ccna atm02:59
Vashta_Neradaand in the home stretch03:00
Vashta_Neradalinux is actually for stress relief !03:00
jmarsdenOK.  What does     dpkg -l | grep inetd    output03:00
Vashta_Neradao.O03:00
XiXaQjmarsden, ah.. It looks in /etc/hosts for an FQDN where the leftmost part is equal to /etc/hostname and then appends the rest of that as its FQDN? What, then, if my /etc/hosts contain several, like I might have both "www.ubuntu.com" and "www.wikipedia.org" in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname is "www"?03:01
Vashta_Neradahttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273882/03:01
jmarsdenXiXaQ: Usually /etc/hosts entries are like 192.168.1.1   myname.mydomain.com myname03:02
jmarsdenXiXaQ: So you get the FQDN first and the the short name as an alias after it.03:02
XiXaQah, I see.03:03
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: aha, openbsd-inetd... interesting choice of inetd, but there we go.. I'd suggest uninstalling that    sudo apt-get purge openbsd-inetd     and then recheck  with     sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :2303:04
XiXaQno, really, I mean it this time! :)03:04
Vashta_Neradawow apt-get autoremove as seemed to removed a week and a halfs worth of boneheadery, i gotta look that feature up03:09
Vashta_Neradano output from : sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :2303:10
Vashta_Neradathanks jmarsden03:10
jmarsdenIt will clean out all packages that were installed as dependencies of stuff you actually asked for at some point, but have since uninstalled.    OK, looks like you are all set.03:10
jmarsdenNo problem.03:10
Vashta_Neradayeah03:10
Vashta_Neradaok, advice corner time03:10
Vashta_Neradashould i install nx?03:10
jmarsdenWhat do you need or want it for?03:11
Vashta_Neradaso i can disconnect the monitor an keyboard and still use the gui when i so desire03:11
Vashta_Neradai did it once for a client and i liked it03:12
fjhi03:13
Vashta_Neradai tired vnc, you might have seen that, and i couldn't get it to work properly03:13
fjI am new here and I got a quick question regarding Cisco VPN Client03:13
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: You can use ssh for that, X over SSH works fine.  Or use VNC if you really must.  Overall I think the "more Linux-oriented" approach would be ssh and X, but it's your choice03:13
fjanyone can help setting it up?03:13
Vashta_NeradaX?03:13
jmarsdenfj: There is a Cisco VPN Client package for Ubuntu Server?03:13
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: The X Window System... :)03:13
Vashta_Neradacan you link me to an explainaition03:13
Vashta_Neradayes, i mean i believe i'm running X but i want to remote into the box03:14
Vashta_Neradai mean, the gui IS x03:14
fjjmarsden: not very sure03:14
Vashta_Neradai thought03:14
jmarsdenRight, so get an X server on the local PC, and then ssh to the remote machine and run whatever X client programs you need and their display will be on your local machine...03:14
fjjmarsden: but i am keen to know if there is one03:14
Vashta_Neradahmmm03:15
Vashta_Neradai'll google that03:15
jmarsdenfj: Why would you want one on a server, exactly?  A Ubuntu server, with no GUI... ? What purpose would a Cisco VPN client have on such a machine?03:16
Vashta_Neradacan i do that from a windows xp pc?03:16
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: well, you'll need to find an X server for Windows XP, which is awkward but possible.  Better to use a Linux desktop box as the client, I would say :)03:17
fjjmarsden: i'm sorry, maybe i joined try the wrong channel. Someone in #ubuntu suggest I join this channel to post this question. I am actually running Ubuntu 9.0403:17
Vashta_Nerada: /03:17
Vashta_Neradathat's why i wanted nx03:17
fjjmarsden: i didn;t know there is a different version of Ubuntu03:17
Vashta_Neradano i remember the problem back then03:17
Vashta_Nerada*now03:17
jmarsdenfj: #ubuntu-server is for support of the Ubuntu server edition, which has no GUI.03:18
fjjmarsden: ah...ok03:18
jmarsdenVashta_Nerada: There is Xming which could work for you under XP if you want to try the X approach that way.03:18
fjjmarsden: so which channel you would recommend me to join?03:18
Vashta_Neradai will look at that, thank you jmarsden03:19
jmarsdenfj: I'm not really sure.  http://compnetworking.about.com/od/vpn/p/ciscovpnclient.htm   suggests there is a Linux version of that client, you might start there.03:20
jmarsdenArgh, now I found a HOWTO for that client on Ubuntu, fj is not here any more... oh well... http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/ (old, but maybe a start).03:23
hokatichenciAre you kidding me? NRPE depends on the kitchen sink?04:51
pwnguinwell, npre is kinda creepy04:53
pwnguin"please run this script with these parameters and return the output to me"04:53
hokatichenciYeah, with a couple caveats about timing and whatnot.04:55
hokatichenciI mean sure you could replace that with a couple lines of well, probably anything...04:55
Zermelo-FraenkelSomebody tell me how to start conversation here04:56
mushroombluetalk about your local sports team.04:57
Zermelo-FraenkelHello Mushroom04:57
hokatichenciTalk about web 2.0 blogosphere synergy with rabid, maneatig republican bears?04:57
Zermelo-FraenkelCan anyone hear me?04:57
mushroombluewhat?04:57
Zermelo-FraenkelPlease if anyone hears me out, acknowledge by uttering my name Zermelo04:58
Zermelo-FraenkelI don't how to use this, good grief04:59
jmarsden!ot | Zermelo-Fraenkel04:59
ubottuZermelo-Fraenkel: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!04:59
Zermelo-FraenkelOh thanks so the thing did work, thanks ubottu05:00
Zermelo-FraenkelAll right I'll go over there to #ubuntu05:00
android60which channel helps with karmic server?05:36
jmarsdenandroid60: Interesting question... probably #ubuntu+1 if the question is definitely Karmic-specific.05:37
android60well its not quite, even though I have my drive listed in /etc/fstab. it is not mounted on boot. a sudo mount -a mounts it. I have 2 identical entries for my 1tb drives. only diff is uuid for sda1 and sdb105:37
android60and sdb1 mounts fine05:39
android60on boot05:39
jmarsdenSounds odd... but you mount partitions, not drives.  Is this order-dependent -- is the mount point for sda1 in the filesystem that is on sdb1 ?05:40
android60no05:41
android60i have 3 drives, a 40gb system, and the 2 1tb drives, they are mounted at /media/MainStorage1 and /media/ArchiveDisk105:41
android60im thinking its just a karmic big05:42
android60bug**05:42
jmarsdenSeems unlikely... is the system brand new and so "expendable" at this point -- if so, install 9.04 Server as a test, and see if it does any better :)05:43
android60i never had problems with 9.04 but i didnt use it very long05:51
ScottKActually the mount system is part of what got re-engineered in the breakage earlier in the week.  I'd ask in #ubuntu+105:56
foxbuntuevening/morning all, Im going to pull a newb question and ask where my apache2 log sits, for some reason it wont start and I am trying to figure out why07:31
Vashta_Neradajmarsden: are you around?07:39
Vashta_Neradawell if you notice this and remember me, i'm seriously considering reinstalling07:39
Vashta_Neradajust too many variables, idk if it's me or if it's just normal linux fun07:40
martinjh99Running Server 9.04 and when it installed it asked me wether I wanted to do updates - I said yes and I was wondering how it did them as I can't find a cronjob entry for updating...08:02
andolfoxbuntu: /var/log/apache2/08:24
andolfoxbuntu: You might also take a look inside /var/log/syslog, in case the problem arise before apache2 is actually started08:24
foxbuntuandol, yes thanks, I remembered and promptly gave myself a dork stamp08:25
Maelos`How can I go about installing newer versions of a given package?  Jaunty comes with ejabberd 2.0.3, but I'd like the 2.0.5 package.  Is it possible to install that set of packages?09:05
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cemcis it just me or is jfs a lot slower at deleting a bunch of small files than ext3?09:55
DebolazJFS should generally be avoided imho.09:56
cemcDebolaz: why ?09:56
DebolazIn my personal experience, it has bricked my system twice when shutting down properly, and it's not actively developed (For Linux anyway) either.09:57
Debolazwhen not shutting down properly even09:57
DebolazI just don't trust it with my data anymore.09:58
cemcwhat else do you use ?09:59
DebolazAnd from what I've read, though for different than my own reasons, it seems people recommends against using it.09:59
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cemchm, it's deleting my Maildir/ folder for like 10 minutes now, and it's not done yet10:00
DebolazI've settled for ext3 on Linux. I've not had any major disasters with it, and it has an overall good performance.10:00
cemcyeah, my instinct always said just stick to ext3, I dunno why I'm wasting time trying anything else ;)10:03
cemcxfs is a pain to fsck, jfs is slow to delete, and don't even get me started on reiser. eh, fsck it, I'm going back to ext3 and no more messing around ;)10:04
Vashta_NeradaHey, anyone I'm trying to be able to view my linux gui on my xp via ssh.  I have an ssh connection  and someone suggested installing xming.  I have xming running but i get certain errors that lead me to believe that maybe iI haven't a clue as to what i'm doing.... things like Xauthority not writeable.  I know I've gotten some of it done but I really don't know what i might need to do more, ...10:05
Vashta_Nerada...Question: is Xming all I need to view the linux gui? or will i need some other application to do it?  does anyone have any ideas on how i can finish this little project?10:05
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incorrectnot that i've benchmarked kvm, but you got to love being able to vnc into a vm11:11
chriswGreetings everyone. I have a question. Is there an easy way to create a Windows-like domain in Linux, but with no Windows machines (and therefore no need for Samba).14:02
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Gneasyslog-ng isn't working anymore, I don't know why, I don't know where to start... I've tried restarting it, but nothing will log!  I tried the logger command, and nothing, at all.  There was some error about running out of drive space, but that problem was fixed... so it thinks there's still no drive space? there's over 8G free!15:34
Anirban1987> I have set memory_limit = 16M in php.ini file , but sometimes when I run a php script it goes beyond that limit !16:33
Anirban1987how to restrict RAM usage by an apache script on Ubuntu ?16:59
wildgoosedhey everyone. i just finished installing 9.04 server. can i somehow get back to the setup screen and install the lamp role ?17:42
ScottKwildgoosed: sudo tasksel should do it (IIRC)17:45
wildgoosedawesome worked thanks!17:46
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ScottKYou're welcome.17:50
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XiXaQI'm having some problems with guest vms crashing because of cpu frequency scaling. If I use cpufreq-set -g performance, will that be remembered between boots, or do I have to run it after each reboot?18:35
giovaniXiXaQ: cpufreq-set is just a frontend to some /sys settings18:38
giovaniXiXaQ: and since those are kernel variables, they'll need to be set every boot, which is typically done in /etc/sysfs.conf18:39
XiXaQI don't have a /etc/sysfs.conf?18:40
giovaniwhat verison of ubuntu-server are you running?18:41
XiXaQjaunty.18:41
giovaniXiXaQ: then you may need to create it -- it's on every system I have18:43
XiXaQwhere do I find out what format it should have?18:47
giovaniXiXaQ: well if it were me, I'd be using google18:50
XiXaQhehe, yes, I'm sorry about that. :)18:51
XiXaQsometimes the fingers are faster than the mind, it seems. :)18:51
giovanisudo apt-get install sysfsutils18:51
giovanithat'll provide sysfs.conf, and associated applications18:51
alex-weeeji can't start my vm with virt-manager due to some bug in the new apparmor/libvirt stuff, does anyone know how to start them via command line?19:01
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XiXaQgiovani, I installed sysfsutils (which gave me /etc/sysfs.conf) and added "devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor = performance", but when I rebooted the server, it was back to ondemand.19:17
XiXaQwhat am I doing wrong?19:17
XiXaQalex-weeej, virsh start <domain name>19:25
arrrghhhso i'm trying to switch from using alsa as my local sound output to using pulse - and yes, this is on ubuntu-server w/o an X server.19:55
arrrghhhi use mpd to put pulse out to a network stream, which works well.  but it's not quite in sync.  alsa handles the local sound, but i was thinking if pulse did it all it would be more in sync.19:56
android60I am having user problems. How can I add a user and allow them ssh access? every time i add a user even if i specify a password i get authentication failed when i try to login with it20:03
alex-weeejXiXaQ, error: AppArmorGenSecurityLabel: cannot generate AppArmor profile 'libvirt-5539255a-03ec-319f-10af-79f8efbf7195'20:05
XiXaQare you in the libvirtd group?20:05
XiXaQalex-weeej?20:05
alex-weeejXiXaQ, alex : alex adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare libvirtd20:06
jdstrandif you want to take AppArmor out of the equation, see /usr/share/doc/libvirt-bin/README.Debian.gz20:06
jmarsdengiovani and XiXaQ : The file with the kernel vars in it is /etc/sysctl.conf20:06
jdstrand(but dmesg will tell you what apparmor is denying, if anything)20:07
XiXaQjmarsden, then I should add the line to sysctl.conf instead? Same line?20:07
jmarsdenXiXaQ: I think so.  I'm not familiar with the CPU frequency scaling stuff, but that is the file that stsctl uses to set a bunch of kernel variables at every boot...20:08
jmarsden*sysctl20:08
alex-weeejjdstrand, i'm not sure what to do -- it doesn't seem as if apparmor is even denying anything, rather the code that prepares an apparmor profile for a kvm instance is falling over? (i don't know...)20:08
alex-weeejjdstrand, i ran the two commands to disable the aa profile at the bottom of the README and it's still giving the same error20:11
jdstrandalex-weeej: it may not be apparmor at all. you need to restart libvirt too20:11
jdstrandalex-weeej: /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin restart20:11
alex-weeejjdstrand, ok it starts now20:12
jdstrandalex-weeej: you can see if it is disabled by doing 'virsh capabilities' and seeing if apparmor is listed in the host section20:12
jdstrandalex-weeej: the vm starts now?20:12
alex-weeejjdstrand, yes, just making sure it's all coming up now...20:13
jdstrandalex-weeej: do you have auditd installed?20:13
alex-weeejnot sure20:14
alex-weeejhow can i tell?20:14
jdstrandalex-weeej: dpkg -l|grep auditd20:14
alex-weeejno lines20:14
jdstrandalex-weeej: can you paste the output of 'dmesg | grep audit' somewhere?20:14
alex-weeejjdstrand, http://pastebin.ca/157211120:16
jdstrandalex-weeej: can you file a bug using 'ubuntu-bug libvirt-bin'? I'll follow up with you in the report20:18
alex-weeejjdstrand, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/43281020:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 432810 in libvirt "[karmic] Can't start qemu system VMs via virt-manager due to AppArmor error" [Undecided,New]20:18
alex-weeejjdstrand, do you need to me to attach data using apport?20:20
arrrghhhcan anyone help me switch from using alsa to pulse as the local audio output device?20:22
jdstrandalex-weeej: I added what I need right now to the bug report20:23
jdstrandalex-weeej: but, doing 'apport-collect -p libvirt-bin 432810' would also be helpful20:23
alex-weeejjdstrand, do you want me to run those commands having already disabled the apparmor stuff?20:24
alex-weeejand if not, you need to tell me how to undo what i did with the two commands at the bottom of the README :)20:24
jdstrandalex-weeej: if you could renable it that would be great. 'sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtd ; sudo /etc/init.d/libvirtd restart'20:25
jdstrandalex-weeej: that left it disabled on reboot for now20:25
* ink hates pulse-audio20:25
inktell me all about latency and per-application mixers all you want, but give me oss4 without it's borked master mixer and without audio snaps any day of the week20:26
arrrghhhink, well i'll tell you why i want pulse.  i have alsa/mpd pumping out local audio to an amp.  i want to stream the audio to a lappy in another room.  so in the mpd room the suggested pulse.  pulse works ok, it lags a little behind alsa.  plus, when there's nothing listening on the pulse stream and it's enabled alsa skips.  disable pulse or put something up to listen to it, and alsa is fine.20:28
inkarrrghhh:  just tell me how to get Pidgin to play buddy sounds without obnoxious static all over the place, and how to get Rhythmbox to use its mixer without rebooting (is this Windows??)20:29
arrrghhhink, hrm... i don't run X on my server...20:30
inkafter a day or so, Rhythmbox will just start ignoring the gnome-volume-control, and I have to reboot to get it to work again20:30
arrrghhhor pidgin or rhythymbox.20:30
inkwhat are you streaming audio with?  :-)20:30
alex-weeejjdstrand, Skipped: /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.libvirtd20:30
arrrghhhink, pulse & mpd.20:31
jdstrandalex-weeej: ok, rm that symlink (I forgot that apparmor_parser would do that)20:31
arrrghhhmpd plays music to my amp thru alsa, and i just setup pulse to stream audio across the local network.20:31
alex-weeejalex@whoosh:~/Desktop$ sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtdCached reload succeeded for "/etc/apparmor.d/cache/usr.sbin.libvirtd".20:31
alex-weeejjdstrand, ok?20:32
jdstrandalex-weeej: sounds good20:32
alex-weeejjdstrand, also the init script is libvirt-bin, not libvirtd i think20:32
jdstrandalex-weeej: yes, you are correct20:33
alex-weeejjdstrand, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/43281020:34
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 432810 in libvirt "[karmic] Can't start qemu system VMs via virt-manager due to AppArmor error" [Undecided,New]20:34
jdstrandalex-weeej: meh, typed to fast. need ls -lR /etc/apparmor.d. sorry20:34
jdstrands/to/too/20:34
alex-weeejjdstrand, ok, done20:35
hexahi20:35
hexadoes anybody know about why munin sucks up my graph? :D http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/25117/screenshot_120_IbnI4p.png20:36
hexadaily is fine, weekly, monthly, yearly however isn't20:36
hexai can't really get a clue20:36
jdstrandalex-weeej: can you give me the xml for that machine? Eg:20:37
jdstrandvirsh dumpxml <vm name> > /tmp/<vm name>.xml20:37
jdstrandalex-weeej: please substitute <vm name> for the actual name of the machine20:38
alex-weeej:)20:38
alex-weeejjdstrand, you want it on the bug report or just pastebin?20:39
jdstrandalex-weeej: pastebin is fine for now20:39
alex-weeejjdstrand, http://pastebin.ca/157213520:39
alex-weeejout of interest, what is the point in all this apparmor stuff?20:45
jdstrandalex-weeej: it is to protect hostile virtual machines20:45
jdstrandalex-weeej: err20:45
alex-weeej...the host from20:45
jdstrandalex-weeej: protect you from hostile virtual machines20:46
jdstrandalex-weeej: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/AppArmorLibvirtProfile20:46
alex-weeejso rather, to protect us from buggy hypervisors?20:46
alex-weeejah right, yes :)20:46
jdstrandspecifically: Virtual machines started by libvirt run unconfined. If there is a bug in the hypervisor, a guest could potentially attack other guests or the host. Providing an AppArmor profile would help protect against this."20:46
jdstrandLibvirt now contains AppArmor integration when using KVM or QEMU. Libvirtd is now configured to launch virtual machines that are confined by uniquely restrictive AppArmor profiles. This feature significantly improves virtualization in Ubuntu by providing user-space host protection as well as guest isolation.20:47
jdstrandalex-weeej: ok, I can reproduce. thanks for your help!20:47
alex-weeejjdstrand, ok but i get this even when creating new VMs20:47
alex-weeejjdstrand, dunno whether that counts for anything20:47
jdstrandalex-weeej: feel free to disable for now and check back after the next libvirt update20:47
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alex-weeejjdstrand, thanks21:02
alex-weeejbyee21:02
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hexahm ist es möglich, dass seit über einem monat keine updates für ubuntu jaunty server rauskamen?21:09
hexaoops21:09
hexais it possible that for over a month there haven't been any upgrades to ubuntu jaunty server?21:09
maurenhi21:21
maurennot sure if i have a bug here, an issue with kdebluetooth21:21
hexamauren kde is not related to ubuntu-server, is it?21:22
maurenhexa its just an issue with kde bluetooth on my server21:23
hexai was just wondering21:23
maureni submitted the issue on launchpad21:23
maurenbut didnt get any response which is why im ehre21:23
mauren:)21:23
hexaso what is it? :)21:25
maurenim trying to lookup the launchpad number21:25
maurenwhat do you call those21:26
maurenwhere i submit bugs21:26
hexabug number? :D21:26
maurenyes21:26
hexahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=kdebluetooth&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=21:27
hexatake your pick21:27
maurenhexa bugs #13630721:30
maurensimilar to that issue21:30
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 136307 in kdebluetooth "kblueplugd crashed with NameError in <module>()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13630721:30
maurencrashed when i closed my bluetooth after i finished sending the file using bluetooth21:30
maurenbut its a similar issue to that21:33
hexaI actually don't use kde nor bluetooth within my server21:33
maurenok21:33
hexaso I can't verify that21:33
maurenok21:33
* mauren nods21:33
aubreEtienneG: I got my image packaging problems over with but I am having the same 403 Forbidden problem you are/were having when I try to fire up an instance22:03
aubreEtienneG: I do have Walrus/SC working though22:05
aubreI'm sitting in on zoopster's talk at ALF right now22:05
SkaagI am running 'watchdog' on Ubuntu but it's "defunct" although syslog shows no complaints from the watchdog process22:48
SkaagI made sure the softdog kernel module is loaded22:48

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