[00:09] <bdmurray> mathiaz: still around?
[00:10] <mathiaz> bdmurray: yes!
[00:10] <bdmurray> Traceback (most recent call last):
[00:10] <bdmurray>   File "./dailynewbugs.py", line 88, in <module>
[00:10] <bdmurray>     if task.date_created.date() <= end_date:
[00:10] <bdmurray> AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'date'
[00:10] <bdmurray> qa.ubuntu.com is running hardy
[00:10] <bdmurray> and an older version of launchpadlib
[00:10] <mathiaz> bdmurray: hmmm
[00:11] <mathiaz> bdmurray: of course I was developing on karmic :/
[00:12] <bdmurray> right who would use hardy...
[00:12] <martin-rightscal> smoser: you still around?
[00:12] <mathiaz> bdmurray: well - launchpadlib wasn't in hardy either
[00:12] <mathiaz> bdmurray: it seems that this is the problem
[00:13] <mathiaz> bdmurray: which version of launchpadlib is installed?
[00:13] <bdmurray> 0.2~bzr25-0ubuntu1~CAT.8.04.1
[00:13] <bdmurray> I can probably sort this out
[00:22] <mauren> anyone using bazaar
[00:22] <mauren> I'm going to make myself a development environment tomorrow. I was thinking about bazar.
[00:22] <mauren> I've never actually used a revision control system before *shame*
[00:23]  * mauren prays
[00:24] <mauren> Isnt it supposed to be more distributed and has some coupling with launchpad/
[00:24] <mauren> ?
[00:26] <mauren> I've read about cvs, svn and bzr, and the impression I get is that people don't like bazar mainly because they're already accustomed to another revision control system.?
[00:32] <bdmurray> mathiaz: okay all sorted - http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/
[00:34] <mathiaz> bdmurray: this is awesome!
[00:34] <mathiaz> bdmurray: are the cron jobs setup correclty?
[00:35] <bdmurray> mathiaz: in a moment
[00:36] <bdmurray> mathiaz: I might send you the hardy patches too
[00:36] <mathiaz> bdmurray: yes - if you could actually push a bzr branch
[00:36] <mathiaz> bdmurray: and let me know where it is - I'll merge it
[00:37] <bdmurray> mathiaz: its really irritating that date objects are different depending which version of launchpadlib you have
[00:38] <erichammond> mauren: I've used cvs and svn seriously for over a decade, and others before that (rcs, ClearCase, ...).  I recently picked up a little bzr so I could interact with launchpad and didn't have any complaints about it.  git seems more fashionable outside of Ubuntu at the moment, but I think bzr would be a fine place to start given what I've seen.
[00:39] <mauren> alright
[00:39] <mauren> erichammond thanks for your input
[00:39] <ScottK> On a commercial project I'm involved in they just picked bzr due to the extreme pain associated with using git when you haven't used it before.
[00:40] <mauren> i've always used SVN
[00:40] <ScottK> To start with bzr, you can bzr co, bzr up, bzr ci, just like you would with svn.
[00:41] <ScottK> Then you can learn to use it as a dvcs on a pace you decide.
[00:42] <mauren> nice
[00:42] <mauren> i'll give it a try now
[00:42] <ScottK> That was another consideration for the other project.  No immediate hate from svn users.
[00:42] <erichammond> :)
[00:49] <mauren> :P
[01:06] <cemc> I just moved my 9.04 install from a hdd to another. everything's working fine except the network, which I'm not sure why but doesn't want to (at least the ipv4 part, it's getting no ip address, no nothing). any ideas?
[01:52] <jmarsden> cemc: Different NICs -- and so different MAC addresses?  or was the HD really the only thing that changed?
[02:26] <s0|> hello, what command (or serieries of commands) can i use to determine the model of 3ware raid card that a machine has in it?
[02:27] <jmarsden> s0|: lspci  is probably a start
[02:28] <XiXaQ> is it ok to put my FQDN in /etc/hostname or should I only use the machines name without any dots?
[02:28] <s0|> jmarsden, thanks, couldn't seem to put a good enough google string togeather to get that.
[02:28] <jmarsden> s0|: No problem.
[02:32] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: You can use the FQDN if you wish to, bit it is more common to use the short name in there.  When you are done, hostname should output the short name, dnsdomainname should output your domain, and hostname --fqdn  should output the whole thing.
[02:32] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: Also check /etc/mailname   if you are editing this stuff by hand.
[02:33] <Vashta_Nerada> how do i turn off telnet?  (telnetd actually)
[02:34] <Vashta_Nerada> ubuntu 9.04
[02:35] <Vashta_Nerada> i think i turned it on, now that I have ssh up and running i want to disable it
[02:35] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: sudo apt-get purge inetutils-telnetd     But how did you "accidentally" turn it on??
[02:35] <Vashta_Nerada> no i turned it on
[02:35] <Vashta_Nerada> i mean i believe it was not on by default
[02:35] <Vashta_Nerada> and i wanted it on
[02:36] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: Right, telnetd is not installed by default, because it is a huge security risk.
[02:36] <Vashta_Nerada> right
[02:36] <jmarsden> So to undo that, you just uninstall the package.
[02:36] <Vashta_Nerada> this is not a mission critical server, it's my let's learn linux server
[02:37] <Vashta_Nerada> thank you sir
[02:37] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: Sure.. but be careful.   You'll "learn" alright, if it gets hacked and someone on another continent uses it to spam half the planet, or to distribute child porn or whatever...!
[02:38] <Vashta_Nerada> i see
[02:39] <Vashta_Nerada> well, i suppose i can use wireshark to make sure it's not doing wacky stuff right?
[02:39] <jmarsden> In other words, servers can be worth hacking into even if they contain no valuable data... they end up being used for bad things... so you should keep all machines on the Internet secure, whether they are just learning machines or production servers.
[02:40] <Vashta_Nerada> i hear ya
[02:40] <jmarsden> Wireshark might show you the traffic, unless the bad guys tweaked libpcap to hide their traffic, or something like that -- possible, but unlikely.
[02:40] <Vashta_Nerada>  i could re-install just in case
[02:41] <jmarsden> Sure, that would be one way to be a lot more sure.
[02:41] <Vashta_Nerada> weird
[02:41] <Vashta_Nerada> would you like me to show you the output
[02:42] <Vashta_Nerada> do you guys use a pastebin?
[02:42] <jmarsden> use any one you like... pastebin.ubuntu.com is fine
[02:43] <jmarsden> If you install pastebinit you can do pastebin-creation from the command line, which is often convenient.
[02:44] <Vashta_Nerada> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273876/
[02:45] <Vashta_Nerada> did i get rd of it? should i remove any of that other stuff?
[02:45] <jmarsden> So you didn't have inetutils-telnetd installed, and you have a few packages you no longer need.
[02:45] <Vashta_Nerada> yeah, i'm confused actually
[02:45] <jmarsden> Are you sure you *have* telnetd running?
[02:45] <Vashta_Nerada> because telnet works
[02:45] <Vashta_Nerada> well, no, i'm a n00b
[02:45] <jmarsden> OK, what does    sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :23      output
[02:45] <Vashta_Nerada> i thought i did because of another session
[02:46] <Vashta_Nerada> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:23              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2202/inetd
[02:46] <XiXaQ> jmarsden, thanks. How does it know the fqdn if I don't add it to /etc/hostname? reverse dns?
[02:47] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: Hmmm, so inetd is listening on port 23...
[02:47] <Vashta_Nerada> i guess so....
[02:47] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: More likely the entry in /etc/hosts
[02:47] <Vashta_Nerada> hmmm
[02:47] <Vashta_Nerada> i'm not sure what that means
[02:47] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: What did you do to enable telnet, exactly?
[02:47] <Vashta_Nerada> so i didn't have to sit at the desk
[02:48] <XiXaQ> jmarsden, oh, that works both ways? Ip to hostname as well?
[02:49] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: It's mildly complicated, but yes.  The hostname man page says in part:    Technically: The FQDN is the name gethostbyname(2) returns for the host name returned by gethostname(2).  The DNS
[02:49] <jmarsden>        domain name is the part after the first dot.
[02:49] <Vashta_Nerada> i also tried to enable vnc and nx for pretty much the same reason
[02:50] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: No, I don't care about *why*, I care about what you actually *did* to enable telnet... what commands did you type to enable it?
[02:50] <Vashta_Nerada> : /
[02:50] <Vashta_Nerada> idk
[02:51] <jmarsden> How is this "learning", if you do not know what you have done?
[02:51] <Vashta_Nerada> lol
[02:51] <XiXaQ> jmarsden, are there any negative side effects of putting an FQDN in /etc/hostname?
[02:52] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: Not that I know of, but it's not something I have done in the Ubuntu world.
[02:52] <XiXaQ> ok, thanks. I guess I'll read up on this :)
[02:52] <Vashta_Nerada> well i guess i've learned something
[02:53] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: I'll check for what you might have done to get inetd listening on pport 23...
[02:53] <Vashta_Nerada> how will you do that
[02:54] <jmarsden> Combination of google, apt-file and looking around on my own machines :)
[02:54] <jmarsden> Do you have inetutils-inetd installed?
[02:55] <Vashta_Nerada> dude, i couldn't tell ya
[02:55] <jmarsden> What does dpkg -l inetutils-inetd    output?
[02:55] <Vashta_Nerada> you're making me think i should re-do the whole machine and use a notebook for the next one
[02:56] <jmarsden> That would probably be good, actually :)
[02:57] <Vashta_Nerada> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273880/
[02:57] <jmarsden> BTW, you might want to read through http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html
[02:58] <jmarsden> OK, the un means the package is not installed.  So something else installed inetd and set it to listen on port 23...
[02:58] <Vashta_Nerada> i will do that
[02:58] <Vashta_Nerada> i did get an A in my intro to linux class though
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> that was two years ago though
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> i'm not bragging, trust me, i forgot a lot
[02:59] <jmarsden> So hopefully reading through it will be a good refresher and bring you back up to speed.
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> and this is debian that was fedora
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> yes sir it will
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> and i'll try to get to it
[02:59] <Vashta_Nerada> working on my ccna atm
[03:00] <Vashta_Nerada> and in the home stretch
[03:00] <Vashta_Nerada> linux is actually for stress relief !
[03:00] <jmarsden> OK.  What does     dpkg -l | grep inetd    output
[03:00] <Vashta_Nerada> o.O
[03:01] <XiXaQ> jmarsden, ah.. It looks in /etc/hosts for an FQDN where the leftmost part is equal to /etc/hostname and then appends the rest of that as its FQDN? What, then, if my /etc/hosts contain several, like I might have both "www.ubuntu.com" and "www.wikipedia.org" in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname is "www"?
[03:01] <Vashta_Nerada> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/273882/
[03:02] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: Usually /etc/hosts entries are like 192.168.1.1   myname.mydomain.com myname
[03:02] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: So you get the FQDN first and the the short name as an alias after it.
[03:03] <XiXaQ> ah, I see.
[03:04] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: aha, openbsd-inetd... interesting choice of inetd, but there we go.. I'd suggest uninstalling that    sudo apt-get purge openbsd-inetd     and then recheck  with     sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :23
[03:04] <XiXaQ> no, really, I mean it this time! :)
[03:09] <Vashta_Nerada> wow apt-get autoremove as seemed to removed a week and a halfs worth of boneheadery, i gotta look that feature up
[03:10] <Vashta_Nerada> no output from : sudo netstat -ntlp | grep :23
[03:10] <Vashta_Nerada> thanks jmarsden
[03:10] <jmarsden> It will clean out all packages that were installed as dependencies of stuff you actually asked for at some point, but have since uninstalled.    OK, looks like you are all set.
[03:10] <jmarsden> No problem.
[03:10] <Vashta_Nerada> yeah
[03:10] <Vashta_Nerada> ok, advice corner time
[03:10] <Vashta_Nerada> should i install nx?
[03:11] <jmarsden> What do you need or want it for?
[03:11] <Vashta_Nerada> so i can disconnect the monitor an keyboard and still use the gui when i so desire
[03:12] <Vashta_Nerada> i did it once for a client and i liked it
[03:13] <fj> hi
[03:13] <Vashta_Nerada> i tired vnc, you might have seen that, and i couldn't get it to work properly
[03:13] <fj> I am new here and I got a quick question regarding Cisco VPN Client
[03:13] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: You can use ssh for that, X over SSH works fine.  Or use VNC if you really must.  Overall I think the "more Linux-oriented" approach would be ssh and X, but it's your choice
[03:13] <fj> anyone can help setting it up?
[03:13] <Vashta_Nerada> X?
[03:13] <jmarsden> fj: There is a Cisco VPN Client package for Ubuntu Server?
[03:13] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: The X Window System... :)
[03:13] <Vashta_Nerada> can you link me to an explainaition
[03:14] <Vashta_Nerada> yes, i mean i believe i'm running X but i want to remote into the box
[03:14] <Vashta_Nerada> i mean, the gui IS x
[03:14] <fj> jmarsden: not very sure
[03:14] <Vashta_Nerada> i thought
[03:14] <jmarsden> Right, so get an X server on the local PC, and then ssh to the remote machine and run whatever X client programs you need and their display will be on your local machine...
[03:14] <fj> jmarsden: but i am keen to know if there is one
[03:15] <Vashta_Nerada> hmmm
[03:15] <Vashta_Nerada> i'll google that
[03:16] <jmarsden> fj: Why would you want one on a server, exactly?  A Ubuntu server, with no GUI... ? What purpose would a Cisco VPN client have on such a machine?
[03:16] <Vashta_Nerada> can i do that from a windows xp pc?
[03:17] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: well, you'll need to find an X server for Windows XP, which is awkward but possible.  Better to use a Linux desktop box as the client, I would say :)
[03:17] <fj> jmarsden: i'm sorry, maybe i joined try the wrong channel. Someone in #ubuntu suggest I join this channel to post this question. I am actually running Ubuntu 9.04
[03:17] <Vashta_Nerada> : /
[03:17] <Vashta_Nerada> that's why i wanted nx
[03:17] <fj> jmarsden: i didn;t know there is a different version of Ubuntu
[03:17] <Vashta_Nerada> no i remember the problem back then
[03:17] <Vashta_Nerada> *now
[03:18] <jmarsden> fj: #ubuntu-server is for support of the Ubuntu server edition, which has no GUI.
[03:18] <fj> jmarsden: ah...ok
[03:18] <jmarsden> Vashta_Nerada: There is Xming which could work for you under XP if you want to try the X approach that way.
[03:18] <fj> jmarsden: so which channel you would recommend me to join?
[03:19] <Vashta_Nerada> i will look at that, thank you jmarsden
[03:20] <jmarsden> fj: I'm not really sure.  http://compnetworking.about.com/od/vpn/p/ciscovpnclient.htm   suggests there is a Linux version of that client, you might start there.
[03:23] <jmarsden> Argh, now I found a HOWTO for that client on Ubuntu, fj is not here any more... oh well... http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/ (old, but maybe a start).
[04:51] <hokatichenci> Are you kidding me? NRPE depends on the kitchen sink?
[04:53] <pwnguin> well, npre is kinda creepy
[04:53] <pwnguin> "please run this script with these parameters and return the output to me"
[04:55] <hokatichenci> Yeah, with a couple caveats about timing and whatnot.
[04:55] <hokatichenci> I mean sure you could replace that with a couple lines of well, probably anything...
[04:56] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> Somebody tell me how to start conversation here
[04:57] <mushroomblue> talk about your local sports team.
[04:57] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> Hello Mushroom
[04:57] <hokatichenci> Talk about web 2.0 blogosphere synergy with rabid, maneatig republican bears?
[04:57] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> Can anyone hear me?
[04:57] <mushroomblue> what?
[04:58] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> Please if anyone hears me out, acknowledge by uttering my name Zermelo
[04:59] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> I don't how to use this, good grief
[04:59] <jmarsden> !ot | Zermelo-Fraenkel
[05:00] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> Oh thanks so the thing did work, thanks ubottu
[05:00] <Zermelo-Fraenkel> All right I'll go over there to #ubuntu
[05:36] <android60> which channel helps with karmic server?
[05:37] <jmarsden> android60: Interesting question... probably #ubuntu+1 if the question is definitely Karmic-specific.
[05:37] <android60> well its not quite, even though I have my drive listed in /etc/fstab. it is not mounted on boot. a sudo mount -a mounts it. I have 2 identical entries for my 1tb drives. only diff is uuid for sda1 and sdb1
[05:39] <android60> and sdb1 mounts fine
[05:39] <android60> on boot
[05:40] <jmarsden> Sounds odd... but you mount partitions, not drives.  Is this order-dependent -- is the mount point for sda1 in the filesystem that is on sdb1 ?
[05:41] <android60> no
[05:41] <android60> i have 3 drives, a 40gb system, and the 2 1tb drives, they are mounted at /media/MainStorage1 and /media/ArchiveDisk1
[05:42] <android60> im thinking its just a karmic big
[05:42] <android60> bug**
[05:43] <jmarsden> Seems unlikely... is the system brand new and so "expendable" at this point -- if so, install 9.04 Server as a test, and see if it does any better :)
[05:51] <android60> i never had problems with 9.04 but i didnt use it very long
[05:56] <ScottK> Actually the mount system is part of what got re-engineered in the breakage earlier in the week.  I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <foxbuntu> evening/morning all, Im going to pull a newb question and ask where my apache2 log sits, for some reason it wont start and I am trying to figure out why
[07:39] <Vashta_Nerada> jmarsden: are you around?
[07:39] <Vashta_Nerada> well if you notice this and remember me, i'm seriously considering reinstalling
[07:40] <Vashta_Nerada> just too many variables, idk if it's me or if it's just normal linux fun
[08:02] <martinjh99> Running Server 9.04 and when it installed it asked me wether I wanted to do updates - I said yes and I was wondering how it did them as I can't find a cronjob entry for updating...
[08:24] <andol> foxbuntu: /var/log/apache2/
[08:24] <andol> foxbuntu: You might also take a look inside /var/log/syslog, in case the problem arise before apache2 is actually started
[08:25] <foxbuntu> andol, yes thanks, I remembered and promptly gave myself a dork stamp
[09:05] <Maelos`> How can I go about installing newer versions of a given package?  Jaunty comes with ejabberd 2.0.3, but I'd like the 2.0.5 package.  Is it possible to install that set of packages?
[09:55] <cemc> is it just me or is jfs a lot slower at deleting a bunch of small files than ext3?
[09:56] <Debolaz> JFS should generally be avoided imho.
[09:56] <cemc> Debolaz: why ?
[09:57] <Debolaz> In my personal experience, it has bricked my system twice when shutting down properly, and it's not actively developed (For Linux anyway) either.
[09:57] <Debolaz> when not shutting down properly even
[09:58] <Debolaz> I just don't trust it with my data anymore.
[09:59] <cemc> what else do you use ?
[09:59] <Debolaz> And from what I've read, though for different than my own reasons, it seems people recommends against using it.
[10:00] <cemc> hm, it's deleting my Maildir/ folder for like 10 minutes now, and it's not done yet
[10:00] <Debolaz> I've settled for ext3 on Linux. I've not had any major disasters with it, and it has an overall good performance.
[10:03] <cemc> yeah, my instinct always said just stick to ext3, I dunno why I'm wasting time trying anything else ;)
[10:04] <cemc> xfs is a pain to fsck, jfs is slow to delete, and don't even get me started on reiser. eh, fsck it, I'm going back to ext3 and no more messing around ;)
[10:05] <Vashta_Nerada> Hey, anyone I'm trying to be able to view my linux gui on my xp via ssh.  I have an ssh connection  and someone suggested installing xming.  I have xming running but i get certain errors that lead me to believe that maybe iI haven't a clue as to what i'm doing.... things like Xauthority not writeable.  I know I've gotten some of it done but I really don't know what i might need to do more, ...
[10:05] <Vashta_Nerada> ...Question: is Xming all I need to view the linux gui? or will i need some other application to do it?  does anyone have any ideas on how i can finish this little project?
[11:11] <incorrect> not that i've benchmarked kvm, but you got to love being able to vnc into a vm
[14:02] <chrisw> Greetings everyone. I have a question. Is there an easy way to create a Windows-like domain in Linux, but with no Windows machines (and therefore no need for Samba).
[15:34] <Gnea> syslog-ng isn't working anymore, I don't know why, I don't know where to start... I've tried restarting it, but nothing will log!  I tried the logger command, and nothing, at all.  There was some error about running out of drive space, but that problem was fixed... so it thinks there's still no drive space? there's over 8G free!
[16:33] <Anirban1987> > I have set memory_limit = 16M in php.ini file , but sometimes when I run a php script it goes beyond that limit !
[16:59] <Anirban1987> how to restrict RAM usage by an apache script on Ubuntu ?
[17:42] <wildgoosed> hey everyone. i just finished installing 9.04 server. can i somehow get back to the setup screen and install the lamp role ?
[17:45] <ScottK> wildgoosed: sudo tasksel should do it (IIRC)
[17:46] <wildgoosed> awesome worked thanks!
[17:50] <ScottK> You're welcome.
[18:35] <XiXaQ> I'm having some problems with guest vms crashing because of cpu frequency scaling. If I use cpufreq-set -g performance, will that be remembered between boots, or do I have to run it after each reboot?
[18:38] <giovani> XiXaQ: cpufreq-set is just a frontend to some /sys settings
[18:39] <giovani> XiXaQ: and since those are kernel variables, they'll need to be set every boot, which is typically done in /etc/sysfs.conf
[18:40] <XiXaQ> I don't have a /etc/sysfs.conf?
[18:41] <giovani> what verison of ubuntu-server are you running?
[18:41] <XiXaQ> jaunty.
[18:43] <giovani> XiXaQ: then you may need to create it -- it's on every system I have
[18:47] <XiXaQ> where do I find out what format it should have?
[18:50] <giovani> XiXaQ: well if it were me, I'd be using google
[18:51] <XiXaQ> hehe, yes, I'm sorry about that. :)
[18:51] <XiXaQ> sometimes the fingers are faster than the mind, it seems. :)
[18:51] <giovani> sudo apt-get install sysfsutils
[18:51] <giovani> that'll provide sysfs.conf, and associated applications
[19:01] <alex-weeej> i can't start my vm with virt-manager due to some bug in the new apparmor/libvirt stuff, does anyone know how to start them via command line?
[19:17] <XiXaQ> giovani, I installed sysfsutils (which gave me /etc/sysfs.conf) and added "devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor = performance", but when I rebooted the server, it was back to ondemand.
[19:17] <XiXaQ> what am I doing wrong?
[19:25] <XiXaQ> alex-weeej, virsh start <domain name>
[19:55] <arrrghhh> so i'm trying to switch from using alsa as my local sound output to using pulse - and yes, this is on ubuntu-server w/o an X server.
[19:56] <arrrghhh> i use mpd to put pulse out to a network stream, which works well.  but it's not quite in sync.  alsa handles the local sound, but i was thinking if pulse did it all it would be more in sync.
[20:03] <android60> I am having user problems. How can I add a user and allow them ssh access? every time i add a user even if i specify a password i get authentication failed when i try to login with it
[20:05] <alex-weeej> XiXaQ, error: AppArmorGenSecurityLabel: cannot generate AppArmor profile 'libvirt-5539255a-03ec-319f-10af-79f8efbf7195'
[20:05] <XiXaQ> are you in the libvirtd group?
[20:05] <XiXaQ> alex-weeej?
[20:06] <alex-weeej> XiXaQ, alex : alex adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare libvirtd
[20:06] <jdstrand> if you want to take AppArmor out of the equation, see /usr/share/doc/libvirt-bin/README.Debian.gz
[20:06] <jmarsden> giovani and XiXaQ : The file with the kernel vars in it is /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:07] <jdstrand> (but dmesg will tell you what apparmor is denying, if anything)
[20:07] <XiXaQ> jmarsden, then I should add the line to sysctl.conf instead? Same line?
[20:08] <jmarsden> XiXaQ: I think so.  I'm not familiar with the CPU frequency scaling stuff, but that is the file that stsctl uses to set a bunch of kernel variables at every boot...
[20:08] <jmarsden> *sysctl
[20:08] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, i'm not sure what to do -- it doesn't seem as if apparmor is even denying anything, rather the code that prepares an apparmor profile for a kvm instance is falling over? (i don't know...)
[20:11] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, i ran the two commands to disable the aa profile at the bottom of the README and it's still giving the same error
[20:11] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: it may not be apparmor at all. you need to restart libvirt too
[20:11] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin restart
[20:12] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, ok it starts now
[20:12] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: you can see if it is disabled by doing 'virsh capabilities' and seeing if apparmor is listed in the host section
[20:12] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: the vm starts now?
[20:13] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, yes, just making sure it's all coming up now...
[20:13] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: do you have auditd installed?
[20:14] <alex-weeej> not sure
[20:14] <alex-weeej> how can i tell?
[20:14] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: dpkg -l|grep auditd
[20:14] <alex-weeej> no lines
[20:14] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: can you paste the output of 'dmesg | grep audit' somewhere?
[20:16] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, http://pastebin.ca/1572111
[20:18] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: can you file a bug using 'ubuntu-bug libvirt-bin'? I'll follow up with you in the report
[20:18] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/432810
[20:20] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, do you need to me to attach data using apport?
[20:22] <arrrghhh> can anyone help me switch from using alsa to pulse as the local audio output device?
[20:23] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: I added what I need right now to the bug report
[20:23] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: but, doing 'apport-collect -p libvirt-bin 432810' would also be helpful
[20:24] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, do you want me to run those commands having already disabled the apparmor stuff?
[20:24] <alex-weeej> and if not, you need to tell me how to undo what i did with the two commands at the bottom of the README :)
[20:25] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: if you could renable it that would be great. 'sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtd ; sudo /etc/init.d/libvirtd restart'
[20:25] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: that left it disabled on reboot for now
[20:25]  * ink hates pulse-audio
[20:26] <ink> tell me all about latency and per-application mixers all you want, but give me oss4 without it's borked master mixer and without audio snaps any day of the week
[20:28] <arrrghhh> ink, well i'll tell you why i want pulse.  i have alsa/mpd pumping out local audio to an amp.  i want to stream the audio to a lappy in another room.  so in the mpd room the suggested pulse.  pulse works ok, it lags a little behind alsa.  plus, when there's nothing listening on the pulse stream and it's enabled alsa skips.  disable pulse or put something up to listen to it, and alsa is fine.
[20:29] <ink> arrrghhh:  just tell me how to get Pidgin to play buddy sounds without obnoxious static all over the place, and how to get Rhythmbox to use its mixer without rebooting (is this Windows??)
[20:30] <arrrghhh> ink, hrm... i don't run X on my server...
[20:30] <ink> after a day or so, Rhythmbox will just start ignoring the gnome-volume-control, and I have to reboot to get it to work again
[20:30] <arrrghhh> or pidgin or rhythymbox.
[20:30] <ink> what are you streaming audio with?  :-)
[20:30] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, Skipped: /etc/apparmor.d/disable/usr.sbin.libvirtd
[20:31] <arrrghhh> ink, pulse & mpd.
[20:31] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: ok, rm that symlink (I forgot that apparmor_parser would do that)
[20:31] <arrrghhh> mpd plays music to my amp thru alsa, and i just setup pulse to stream audio across the local network.
[20:31] <alex-weeej> alex@whoosh:~/Desktop$ sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtdCached reload succeeded for "/etc/apparmor.d/cache/usr.sbin.libvirtd".
[20:32] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, ok?
[20:32] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: sounds good
[20:32] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, also the init script is libvirt-bin, not libvirtd i think
[20:33] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: yes, you are correct
[20:34] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/432810
[20:34] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: meh, typed to fast. need ls -lR /etc/apparmor.d. sorry
[20:34] <jdstrand> s/to/too/
[20:35] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, ok, done
[20:35] <hexa> hi
[20:36] <hexa> does anybody know about why munin sucks up my graph? :D http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/25117/screenshot_120_IbnI4p.png
[20:36] <hexa> daily is fine, weekly, monthly, yearly however isn't
[20:36] <hexa> i can't really get a clue
[20:37] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: can you give me the xml for that machine? Eg:
[20:37] <jdstrand> virsh dumpxml <vm name> > /tmp/<vm name>.xml
[20:38] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: please substitute <vm name> for the actual name of the machine
[20:38] <alex-weeej> :)
[20:39] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, you want it on the bug report or just pastebin?
[20:39] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: pastebin is fine for now
[20:39] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, http://pastebin.ca/1572135
[20:45] <alex-weeej> out of interest, what is the point in all this apparmor stuff?
[20:45] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: it is to protect hostile virtual machines
[20:45] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: err
[20:45] <alex-weeej> ...the host from
[20:46] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: protect you from hostile virtual machines
[20:46] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/AppArmorLibvirtProfile
[20:46] <alex-weeej> so rather, to protect us from buggy hypervisors?
[20:46] <alex-weeej> ah right, yes :)
[20:46] <jdstrand> specifically: Virtual machines started by libvirt run unconfined. If there is a bug in the hypervisor, a guest could potentially attack other guests or the host. Providing an AppArmor profile would help protect against this."
[20:47] <jdstrand> Libvirt now contains AppArmor integration when using KVM or QEMU. Libvirtd is now configured to launch virtual machines that are confined by uniquely restrictive AppArmor profiles. This feature significantly improves virtualization in Ubuntu by providing user-space host protection as well as guest isolation.
[20:47] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: ok, I can reproduce. thanks for your help!
[20:47] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, ok but i get this even when creating new VMs
[20:47] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, dunno whether that counts for anything
[20:47] <jdstrand> alex-weeej: feel free to disable for now and check back after the next libvirt update
[21:02] <alex-weeej> jdstrand, thanks
[21:02] <alex-weeej> byee
[21:09] <hexa> hm ist es möglich, dass seit über einem monat keine updates für ubuntu jaunty server rauskamen?
[21:09] <hexa> oops
[21:09] <hexa> is it possible that for over a month there haven't been any upgrades to ubuntu jaunty server?
[21:21] <mauren> hi
[21:21] <mauren> not sure if i have a bug here, an issue with kdebluetooth
[21:22] <hexa> mauren kde is not related to ubuntu-server, is it?
[21:23] <mauren> hexa its just an issue with kde bluetooth on my server
[21:23] <hexa> i was just wondering
[21:23] <mauren> i submitted the issue on launchpad
[21:23] <mauren> but didnt get any response which is why im ehre
[21:23] <mauren> :)
[21:25] <hexa> so what is it? :)
[21:25] <mauren> im trying to lookup the launchpad number
[21:26] <mauren> what do you call those
[21:26] <mauren> where i submit bugs
[21:26] <hexa> bug number? :D
[21:26] <mauren> yes
[21:27] <hexa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=kdebluetooth&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=
[21:27] <hexa> take your pick
[21:30] <mauren> hexa bugs #136307
[21:30] <mauren> similar to that issue
[21:30] <mauren> crashed when i closed my bluetooth after i finished sending the file using bluetooth
[21:33] <mauren> but its a similar issue to that
[21:33] <hexa> I actually don't use kde nor bluetooth within my server
[21:33] <mauren> ok
[21:33] <hexa> so I can't verify that
[21:33] <mauren> ok
[21:33]  * mauren nods
[22:03] <aubre> EtienneG: I got my image packaging problems over with but I am having the same 403 Forbidden problem you are/were having when I try to fire up an instance
[22:05] <aubre> EtienneG: I do have Walrus/SC working though
[22:05] <aubre> I'm sitting in on zoopster's talk at ALF right now
[22:48] <Skaag> I am running 'watchdog' on Ubuntu but it's "defunct" although syslog shows no complaints from the watchdog process
[22:48] <Skaag> I made sure the softdog kernel module is loaded