[00:28] <squirrelpimp> hi
[00:29] <squirrelpimp> the karmic login screen of xubuntu look nothing like the jaunty one. Is it still using gdm and supposed to look that way?
[00:29] <squirrelpimp> or did i break something?
[00:29] <squirrelpimp> it's not very stylish i think
[00:31] <squirrelpimp> i'd take a screenshot, but i don't know how to run the screenshot app when not logged id
[00:31] <squirrelpimp> in
[00:53] <johny-b-goode> Hello People.
[00:54] <johny-b-goode> is anybody else having issues with Jaunty extremely slow compared to the previous version?
[00:54] <johny-b-goode> same hardware. after upgrade GUI response time is very slow.
[01:07] <SiDi> johny-b-goode: intel graphic card ?
[01:07] <SiDi> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/new-intel-graphics-drivers-for-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty.html
[01:11] <johny-b-goode> it's freakin' unuseable.
[01:11] <johny-b-goode> can't do anything.
[01:11] <johny-b-goode> ati video card.
[01:14] <nox404> can someone help me whith trying ot get a few commands to run once x is started
[01:15] <nox404> i have looked on google and tried serval things
[01:16] <johny-b-goode> what are u trying to run.
[01:16] <nox404> boot.tsharc start
[01:16] <nox404> and onboard
[01:16] <nox404> i have a hammerhead xrt
[01:17] <nox404> with touch screen
[01:17] <johny-b-goode> sorry, not familiar at all.
[01:17] <nox404> ok
[01:17] <nox404> but thank you anyway
[01:17] <johny-b-goode> hehe, I thought it might be something simple that I could help with. :)
[01:17] <nox404> i just need to find a way to excuite these games once x is started
[01:17] <nox404> thank you for your interest
[01:17] <johny-b-goode> did they ever run?
[01:18] <nox404> yes
[01:18] <johny-b-goode> so something changed?
[01:18] <nox404> i can click on the script i have and it starts up just find
[01:18] <johny-b-goode> ok, but now you want to run it differently?
[01:18] <nox404> but i need it to start up automaticly every time x starts
[01:19] <johny-b-goode> oh, what is your DE?
[01:19] <nox404> DE?
[01:19] <johny-b-goode> desktop environment.
[01:19] <nox404> Xubuntu
[01:19] <nox404> default
[01:19] <johny-b-goode> oh xfce...
[01:19] <nox404> xfce yes
[01:20] <johny-b-goode> I remember there being a place where you set auto start apps....
[01:20] <nox404> http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php?title=HOWTO_Autostart_Programs
[01:20] <nox404> i will look at this
[01:21] <johny-b-goode> Applications -> Settings -> Xfce 4 Settings Manager.
[01:21] <johny-b-goode> then Session and Startup
[01:21] <johny-b-goode> application Autostart tab.
[01:21] <nox404> omg thank you so much
[01:22] <nox404> i feel dum now
[01:22] <johny-b-goode> :) sure.
[01:22] <nox404> LOL
[01:22] <johny-b-goode> as long as it helps you. :)
[01:22] <nox404> i have been digging through
[01:22] <nox404> code for the last few days
[01:22] <nox404> modding RC.d
[01:22] <nox404> and all this other stuff
[01:22] <nox404> lol
[01:22] <johny-b-goode> :)
[01:23] <johny-b-goode> 'nite. gotta restart and reinstall.
[01:25] <nox404> nite
[08:39] <redDEADresolve> anyone figure out how to change the gdm in xubuntu 9.10, just lokking to chnage the background
[08:41] <allan8904> nope sorry
[08:42] <redDEADresolve> anyone figure out how to change the gdm in xubuntu 9.10, just lokking to chnage the background
[08:44] <redDEADresolve> anyone figure how to change the gdm in xubuntu 9.10, just looking to make the background black
[09:45] <N-S> How do I force the screen resolution in xfe? It's a bit annoying to edit it on every reboot, while the screen is jumping up and down. As it is, there isn't a "Set as default" option in the settings for display.
[09:51] <N-S> ah, googling gave me this to try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". I'll do that and get back here if I fail.
[11:25] <N-S> ^^^^ That command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" gave me an error. Changed to Xorg at the end and other combinations, but nothing happens. No program starts, nothing.
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> N-S you have ati card?
[11:26] <N-S> All conf files in /etc/X11 are just simple dfault fiels with just the words "default" in them.
[11:26] <N-S> psycho_oreos I could check
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> N-S, lspci
[11:27] <N-S> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[11:27] <psycho_oreos> mmm
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> in the meantime you might be able to get away using vesa driver
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> under xorg.conf
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> you'll need to specify it manually (i.e. by hand)
[11:28] <N-S> It boots with a resolution just a bit too high for my external vga-svhs box (system connected to the tv as a XBMC).
[11:28] <N-S> ok
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> hmm then you'll need to re-adjust the modes
[11:29] <N-S> couldn't I force the settings in xorg.conf?
[11:29] <N-S> setting the modes, I mean
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> comment/delete out the resolutions that your tv can't handle
[11:29] <N-S> There aren't any :-/
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> well if its not specified in xorg.conf, it uses default configuration, if you specify what you want, I think that will override whatever that was set as default
[11:29] <N-S> If it had had them I would've done that before.
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> hmm Xorg.*.log may come in handy
[11:30] <N-S> ok, I'll just have to set the default somewhere. Ok, will paste that somewhere.
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> iirc default is /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> there's another tool that can display the modes in which a video card can render
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> might come in handy but setting  up the modes manually by hand will be a little challenging without google
[11:34] <N-S> http://pastie.org/622669
[11:35] <N-S> http://pastie.org/622670  <= xorg.conf, just default settings
[11:39] <N-S> "(II) intel(0): Output VGA using initial mode 1152x864
[11:39] <N-S> that's where it goes wrong.
[11:45] <N-S> If I just edit my xorg.conf to this http://pastie.org/622672 - then I think it should work. I'll test that on next reboot.
[16:10] <blip-> hi all, I recently installed 9.04 and have seen some annoying quirks.... 1)  I can
[16:11] <blip-> 1) I can't ctrl-alt- backspace  :/
[16:11] <blip-> 2) The session thing is wierd, it's saving stuff and I end up with multiple programs opening when I log in
[16:11] <blip-> 3) The login screen (gdm I think) asks me to type username... I want to select from a list and simple insert passwd
[16:12] <blip-> any idea about any of these ?
[16:14] <jarnos> blip-, as for 3 Xubuntu 9.10 will do
[16:15] <blip-> jarnos: I just did a clean install of 9.04.  I think i'll wait at least 6 months before upgrading
[16:15] <blip-> jarnos: just because I'd prefer to all to be stable
[16:15] <mdshaw89> I think the ctrl-alt-backspace may have been disable for saftey.  I just checked and you can still do a Ctrl-Alt-F1, etc.
[16:16] <mdshaw89> the session stuff I have to agree is a HUGE annoyance
[16:16] <mdshaw89> it was bad enough when Firefox did it
[16:17] <mdshaw89> Not sure who is what the developers are thinking there - it seems as things get farther along I get more and more annoyed by the various "improvements"
[16:18] <mdshaw89> at least no one has made the silly mistake of make compiz a default - when that happens I'll be dumping stuff for sure
[16:20] <blip-> mdshaw89: I think it can be fixed by playing around the the Session startup menu but I'm not sure what to do.   If you don't have the Session Chooser enabled on login, it seems to go to "Default" session... which already has a million things saved in it
[16:25] <turboooooo> using xubuntu 9.10 alpha 6, why does it always ask me for the wifi-password? the keychain password is the same as the login password..
[16:36] <blip-> anyone know how to modify the gdm theme ?  I want a theme that let's me just select a username from list and enter pass, rather than type the username too
[16:42] <knome> blip-, there are gdm themes that let you do that
[16:42] <mdshaw89> Is this in your menu - System / Administration / Login Screen Setup / Themed Greeter?
[16:42] <mdshaw89> can't check mine at this moment
[16:44] <mdshaw89> aaaahhhh - this video makes things look easy - http://pcwizkid.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-gdm-themes-customizing-login.html
[16:45] <blip-> mdshaw89, knome:  hmm yes indeed there are settings in the themes...  but it looks like the default 9.04 login screen doesn't have the "Face browser" support.   that's a shame because it looks too good to replace :)
[16:48] <mdshaw89> yep
[16:49] <mdshaw89> although - I am not a fan of the "show me all of the accounts I can login as" gdm
[16:49] <blip-> mdshaw89: cool login screens in my opinion http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Ikon+GDM+Theme?content=106126        http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Spectrum?content=111049
[16:53] <mdshaw89> cool!  - I like this one too - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Blue+Smoke?content=111411
[16:55] <mdshaw89> wow! I had no idea there were so many out there!  I'm usually not a big fan of "flare".  ;)
[16:55] <blip-> nice one.  there's nothing like a good looking linux system... perfect on the outside and under the hood too :)
[16:56] <mdshaw89> yep - guess I could spruce up the look to go with the cube I'm running on
[16:56] <blip-> mdshaw89: yeah I used to go for timid light weight stuff like openbox etc... but then every once in a while I really miss having some eye candy... I moved to KDE4 for a few months but then got frustrated that it wasn't as fast as I wanted.   I finally decided xfce with some themes is a good middle ground
[16:57] <blip-> compiz is too much I think... the only time I've used it is to show off what the OS can do and make my windows friend jelous :D
[16:58] <blip-> the xfce transparency/compositor is rock solid though
[17:01] <mdshaw89> Yep - KDE4 drove me to Xubuntu a few months ago
[17:02] <mdshaw89> I had run Kubuntu for about 2years then KDE4 blew it
[17:03] <mdshaw89> I had actually been looking at LXDE but it looks like it doesn't have ENOUGH configurable items - I like the speed though
[17:06] <mdshaw89> When I switched ti Xubuntu I was hoping I wouldn't get any many Gnome/KDE dependancies but looks like I settle for "not as much".  :(
[17:12] <mdshaw89> when I first read the Linus rant I thought he was a bit over the top - but I got top the same point unfortunately. :)
[17:12] <mdshaw89> nd the bad thing is I had ALL of my home PCs running Kubuntu so if KDE frustrated me, there was no way I could do that to the rest of my family . . . and stay alive. :)
[17:13] <mdshaw89> So I just switched my last PC - my wife's laptop - to Xubuntu 9.04 last weekend and going from KDE3 to Xubuntu has been relatively painless.
[18:03] <jmcand> hi I have a problem with the save as function , using Jaunty , since last kernel update  the save as function take a long time and triggers high cpu usage
[19:41] <Cyber_Akuma-Lapt> I am planning on installing xubuntu as a backup recovery-os on my main desktop, how much space does 9.04 need? I dont have much free space to partition off
[19:48] <slow-motion> hi
[20:21] <sake_> hi
[20:22] <sake_> will xubuntu include the startup in x?
[20:22] <sake_> !ask will xubuntu include the startup in x?
[20:23] <knome> sake_, can you be more specific?
[20:23] <sake_> will karmic include the startup in x
[20:23] <sake_> rather than in usplash?
[20:23] <sake_> like ubuntu?
[20:23] <knome> yes, i suppose we will use xsplash
[20:24] <sake_> ok
[20:24] <sake_> also, will there be new artwork
[20:24] <sake_> or the same as jaunty?
[20:26] <sake_> and will karmic be any lighter than jaunty?
[20:26] <sake_> because jaunty runs pretty slow on my comp
[20:27] <sake_> knome:
[20:27] <knome> new artwork yes, lighter... maybe
[20:41] <sake_> thanx
[20:41] <sake_> u guys r doin a great job btw
[20:41] <sake_> this is the best ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu yet
[21:11] <SiDi> sake_: you'll make some people happy if you say that in #xubuntu-devel ;)
[21:20] <vedevede> I need help browsing network shares in xfce.
[21:20] <vedevede> I have installed fusesmb, and I am in the fuse group, and I have a directory I'd like to be for the network (/media/network) but it does nothing.
[21:21] <SiDi> vedevede: hi there
[21:21] <SiDi> What are you trying to do exactly ?
[21:22] <vedevede> I have a local network here, and I'm trying to browse local computers' shared documents.
[21:22] <SiDi> okey
[21:22] <SiDi> so you want to connect to existing samba shares ?
[21:23] <SiDi> and you want to mount these samba shares in /media/network automagically ?
[21:23] <vedevede> The computers I'm trying to connect to are Windows machines, so I doubt they're samba...
[21:23] <vedevede> And yes, automagically mounting them to /media/network at startup would be GREAT.
[21:23] <SiDi> Windows's protocol is Samba
[21:23] <vedevede> ... I believe it's just plain smb.
[21:24] <SiDi> doesnt smb stand for samba ?
[21:24] <vedevede> I don't think so.
[21:24] <vedevede> But meh.
[21:24] <vedevede> They're compatible, so it's irrelevant.
[21:24] <SiDi> okey
[21:24] <vedevede> I just want to mount them to /media/network so I can get stuff from them and put things on them.
[21:25] <SiDi> i think gigolo can do that
[21:25] <SiDi> i dont have any windows machine so i dont know how to setup smb shares
[21:25] <SiDi> but gigolo is meant to handle that
[21:26] <SiDi> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/ might also be a way to do it
[21:26] <vedevede> I'm not sure if I have gigolo, and I know I don't know how to use it.
[21:28] <SiDi> What xubuntu version do you have ?
[21:28] <SiDi> gigolo is a new app for managing network shares in Xub 9.04
[21:29] <vedevede> I'm using Ubuntu, but with the xfce DE.
[21:29] <vedevede> Ubuntu Jaunty
[21:30] <vedevede> Okay, I do have gigolo.
[21:31] <vedevede> And it has an icon for "network" but it just brings me to /media/network, which is empty.
[21:37] <vedevede> ...
[21:37] <vedevede> Honestly, I wonder if this could be made slightly more difficult.
[21:38] <vedevede> Seriously. It should not be this absurd to connect to a network computer.
[21:41] <vedevede> By this point I have little fragments of crap strewn all over my computer. I have fusesmb in startup, I have a fuse group, both of which obviously WILL NOT DO ANYTHING.
[21:45] <vedevede> Wow.
[21:45] <vedevede> Now gigolo doesn't even have the network icon anymore.
[21:46] <vedevede> <3333333
[21:48] <knome> !attitude | vedevede
[21:51] <vedevede> Okay, I've made slight progress. I was able to access my LAN. Once. In a purely linear fashion.
[21:52] <vedevede> ie. I could go to a subdirectory, but I was unable to go BACK, or ever reconnect to the LAN.
[21:52] <vedevede> Error: Transport endpoint is not connected.
[21:54] <vedevede> Okay.
[21:55] <vedevede> Here's the problem: In gigolo, I can access the LAN ONCE, but after that, if I want to access it again, I have to disconnect from the network completely, then fusesmb /media/network again.
[22:04] <vedevede> Righty-o then. Official Ubuntu-related support is obviously not the way to go when I want Ubuntu-related support. Not once, ever, have I gotten help here, or in #ubuntu.
[23:51] <slow-motion> n8