| lifeless | done | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| wgrant | lifeless: Thanks. | 00:00 |
| lifeless | I like packaging branches :) | 00:01 |
| lifeless | just need to get some tuits and fix the namespace issues | 00:01 |
| lifeless | fullermd: \o/ freebsd just got libtool 2 :) | 00:04 |
| meoblast001 | if i have a few classes in an index that i have to indent 2 spaces, in 1.x this would be a rather large change, but with 2.x that would be very trivial, correct? | 00:29 |
| lifeless | meoblast001: just do the change | 00:31 |
| meoblast001 | ok, i tend to freak out about things | 00:32 |
| meoblast001 | you know, going concern | 00:32 |
| SamB_XP_ | I'd be more worried about what it would do to annotate | 00:35 |
| meoblast001 | annotate? | 00:35 |
| SamB_XP_ | the output from annotate | 00:35 |
| SamB_XP_ | you know, as in "bzr annotate"? | 00:35 |
| meoblast001 | haven't used that feature yet | 00:35 |
| lifeless | SamB_XP_: there will be an ignore whitespace flag at some point | 00:35 |
| meoblast001 | one of the developers on my project rewrote a lot of it about a month ago, i tried to go through it and fix the formatting, but every now and then i pick up on things i missed | 00:36 |
| lifeless | I would just do it | 00:36 |
| SamB_XP_ | maybe you should get some automated nitpickers | 00:36 |
| lifeless | bzr exists to support you:) | 00:37 |
| meoblast001 | automated nitpickers? | 00:37 |
| SamB_XP_ | but yeah, just do it, as long as you aren't actually substantial changes in that commit | 00:37 |
| SamB_XP_ | where by substantial changes, I mean changes to the substance of the code | 00:37 |
| meoblast001 | yeah | 00:38 |
| meoblast001 | thanks for the info | 00:38 |
| idnar | what's wrong with rc1? | 00:38 |
| meoblast001 | i know in this very project i used to have ZIPs in it | 00:38 |
| SamB_XP_ | and by automated nitpickers, I mean tools that check your code style somewhat | 00:38 |
| meoblast001 | once i figured out those aren't good with version control, i extracted them all and removed the ZIP files | 00:38 |
| SamB_XP_ | well, it might be fairly reasonable if you didn't make the zp and don't expect anything in the zip to change ever ;-) | 00:39 |
| SamB_XP_ | s/zp/zip/ | 00:39 |
| meoblast001 | well, the thing was that i was unsure | 00:39 |
| meoblast001 | it didn't change much, but i wasn't sure if it would in the future | 00:40 |
| meoblast001 | and if i still had it, yes, it would have changed | 00:40 |
| meoblast001 | our file format specification changed, and the contents of the files in the ZIP would have needed to be changed | 00:40 |
| SamB_XP_ | yeah | 00:40 |
| meoblast001 | what irks me is that the ZIP file is actually in there forever, even if it's not in the tree | 00:41 |
| lifeless | idnar: brown paper bag bug | 00:41 |
| lifeless | idnar: incorrect conversion of data; do not use. | 00:41 |
| lifeless | idnar: it will usually completely fail to convert data, but if it doesn't fail its probably done the wrong thing | 00:41 |
| meoblast001 | and just in case this question sounds crazy, i asked the MyBB developers what happens when i hit 4294967296 posts | 00:42 |
| SamB_XP_ | lifeless: what does "brown paper bag bug" mean? | 00:42 |
| SamB_XP_ | meoblast001: what's MyBB? | 00:42 |
| lifeless | SamB_XP_: very bad, shouldn't have released, 'oops', 'bah', etc | 00:42 |
| meoblast001 | SamB_XP_: a forum software | 00:42 |
| SamB_XP_ | lifeless: well, I was wondering why those words mean that also ;-) | 00:43 |
| SamB_XP_ | what does that have to do with brown paper bags? | 00:43 |
| idnar | lifeless: ah, nasty | 00:43 |
| lifeless | SamB_XP_: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/B/brown-paper-bag-bug.html | 00:43 |
| lifeless | idnar: yup; we pulled tarballs etc the day after releasing it or so | 00:44 |
| SamB_XP_ | lifeless: oh! | 00:45 |
| SamB_XP_ | lifeless: you don't look like you're wearing a brown paper bag! | 00:45 |
| lifeless | SamB_XP_: it was a few weeks back :P | 00:49 |
| SamB_XP_ | lifeless: ah | 00:50 |
| SamB_XP_ | well, I don't remember seeing you with one back then, either | 00:50 |
| lifeless | jelmer: around? | 00:56 |
| fullermd | lifeless: A while back, actually... it was a week or two after we talked about it. | 01:40 |
| lifeless | fullermd: my bug just got closed | 01:41 |
| fullermd | Ah. I thought about checking on that after I saw the commit go through, but laziness won. | 01:41 |
| Naoki | I changed TortoiseBZR's shell extension code. | 02:17 |
| Naoki | Could anyone kick buildbot for windows installer? | 02:20 |
| meoblast001 | lifeless: you still here? | 03:27 |
| matthewlmcclure | how do you set breakpoints in plugin code? | 05:03 |
| matthewlmcclure | pdb tells me the file is not on sys.path when i try | 05:03 |
| lifeless | breakpoint bzr itself I guess and add the breakpoint after the plugin is loaded? | 05:07 |
| matthewlmcclure | thanks, lifeless. it seems to work if i use the full path to the plugin source file as the argument to `b` | 05:37 |
| === r0bby|arr is now known as r0bby | ||
| AfC | So... um, I just googled "bzr ppa" and came up with https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa ... at which there is no bzr 2.0rc2. | 07:37 |
| AfC | What conceptual tidbit am I missing? | 07:37 |
| AfC | (or should I just be using the 1.18 in karmic?) | 07:39 |
| lifeless | its in the beta ppa | 07:46 |
| lifeless | http://bazaar-vcs.org/Download | 07:47 |
| AfC | lifeless: er, ok. I see. | 07:47 |
| AfC | Hm. I guess I thought that's what the "normal" ppa was for. | 07:47 |
| AfC | so what's the difference between {what is in karmic now, what is in ppa, and what is in beta-ppa}? | 07:48 |
| AfC | [and, when should I stop using beta-ppa for ppa for karmic]? | 07:48 |
| lifeless | normal ppa has releases | 07:49 |
| lifeless | beta ppa has betas | 07:49 |
| lifeless | whats in karmic is what the debian/ubuntu packaging team select and put in there | 07:50 |
| AfC | lifeless: ah | 07:50 |
| AfC | right | 07:50 |
| lifeless | what should you use is : if you want stable releases, use your distro and optionally our ppa | 07:50 |
| lifeless | if you want newer-than your distro, use the ppa | 07:50 |
| AfC | lifeless: so bzr ppa will have 2.0 in it for the next year or so, and bzr beta-ppa will have 2.odd.x in it? | 07:50 |
| lifeless | if you want to help us by beta testing, or want a beta for timely access to some feature, use the beta ppa | 07:51 |
| AfC | lifeless: ok, so given that I'm not a usual PEBKAC here, what should I be using? | 07:51 |
| lifeless | Its not clear what will happen with 2.1b* and the ppas; Some of our users may want them to propogate to the normal ppa:- expect list traffic on it ~ 2.1b1's release :) | 07:51 |
| AfC | yeah | 07:52 |
| AfC | anyway, I was using 2.0rc1, so I presume I should act to get that [back] on board | 07:52 |
| lifeless | I think you'd be fine with the beta ppa; it has a few days of roughness once a month or so | 07:52 |
| lifeless | you definitely want to get rc2, given rc1's brown paper bag status | 07:52 |
| AfC | but I'm wondering if I should revert to normal ppa Real Soon Now™ :) | 07:52 |
| AfC | lifeless: yeah, but it's what the distro I had had shipped until they found out about that. | 07:53 |
| AfC | anyway | 07:53 |
| lifeless | so as I say, I think the beta ppa would be generally fine for you | 07:53 |
| AfC | ok | 07:53 |
| lifeless | its not that rough a ride :) | 07:53 |
| AfC | lifeless: I assume that once it's out | 07:53 |
| AfC | lifeless: I can be running 2.0 or > 2.0 on the server an not screw over 2.0 stable users? | 07:54 |
| AfC | [that seems to be a format question, not a software version one, now that I think of it] | 07:54 |
| AfC | lifeless: [ie, I have to balance me wanting to be close as possible to the code you're working on to actually see fixes & features | 07:55 |
| AfC | against | 07:55 |
| AfC | lifeless: hosting public branches of certain projects] | 07:55 |
| lifeless | our servers are pretty robust | 07:55 |
| lifeless | you can upgrade the server, or stick to 2.0 indefinitely | 07:55 |
| lifeless | in terms of formats, yes, when you upgrade, you force other users to meet that minimum version | 07:56 |
| AfC | sure | 07:58 |
| AfC | I'm going to do that shortly. There aren't _that_ many of them; once Gentoo ~ and Ubuntu K support 2a [or whatever] I'll upgrade the repos. | 07:59 |
| * AfC wishes keyserver.ubuntu.com would answer | 08:01 | |
| AfC | oh, that's not actually required. | 08:04 |
| AfC | lifeless: Robert, does one still have to do that "run Python program once as root" thing to get the .pyc files built? | 08:06 |
| AfC | lifeless: [c.f. Hobart, me on loaner laptop, you doing bzr timing tests to find out that was my bug] | 08:06 |
| lifeless | AfC: you should not have had to do that then; something had gone wrong. | 08:24 |
| lifeless | AfC: if bzr is slow, and strace shows errors openning the pyc files for write, then you have the symptoms again | 08:24 |
| AfC | lifeless: no, it's not slow now | 08:25 |
| AfC | lifeless: [not that I've done much] | 08:25 |
| AfC | lifeless: I was just wondering if it was a standard known thing everyone had to do | 08:25 |
| AfC | thanks | 08:25 |
| maxb | Is there a terse form for reverse-merging / backing out a single revision, or do I want merge -r N..N-1 ? | 08:51 |
| lifeless | you want that | 08:51 |
| lifeless | unless you want uncommit | 08:51 |
| maxb | Maybe bzr should borrow -c -revno from svn :-) | 08:52 |
| lifeless | we have it | 08:53 |
| lifeless | it means N-1..N | 08:53 |
| === doko__ is now known as doko | ||
| maxb | Note the minus sign before revno | 09:17 |
| fullermd | Nono, see. MINUS c means N-1..N, so for N..N-1 you obviously want PLUS c 8-} | 09:17 |
| lifeless | maxb: bzr merge -c 5 will merge 4..5 | 09:20 |
| lifeless | maxb: bzr merge -c -5 will merge -6..-5 | 09:21 |
| maxb | oh. | 09:21 |
| maxb | gah, right | 09:21 |
| NETabuse | hmm, got an error just now trying to clean up my bzrrepo | 11:04 |
| NETabuse | here's the output http://www.pastebin.org/18987 | 11:05 |
| NETabuse | and now every command i use throws something like it. | 11:06 |
| NETabuse | http://www.pastebin.org/18988 | 11:07 |
| spiv | NETabuse: hmm, that's bad. | 11:09 |
| NETabuse | arrg,, that's not what i was hoping to hear... | 11:09 |
| spiv | NETabuse: I think you have an ignore pattern that is causing that error | 11:10 |
| NETabuse | spiv, phew,, that did it. | 11:10 |
| spiv | NETabuse: please file a bug on bzr | 11:10 |
| NETabuse | i'd been messing iwth ignore patterns trying to ignore all images in the image upload data dir | 11:11 |
| spiv | NETabuse: I just skimmed the NEWS file, and it doesn't appear to have been fixed since the version you are using. | 11:11 |
| lifeless | we should be prettier in that case | 11:11 |
| NETabuse | so i'd done bzr ignore path/to/uploads/*.[jpg|gif|png] and it just put in a line in .bzrignore path/to/uploads/*.[jpg and that was it. | 11:12 |
| NETabuse | there https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/433437 | 11:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 433437 in bzr "bzr ignore paths including [ character throws "sre_constants.error: bad character range"" [Undecided,New] | 11:18 |
| NETabuse | i'll update it with more details soon. | 11:18 |
| NETabuse | thanks for spotting that it was ignore patterns. | 11:18 |
| NETabuse | hmm, how do i push my code up from my laptop to my server, server has bzr on it. | 11:24 |
| lifeless | bzr push bzr+shh://server/abs/path/here | 11:24 |
| NETabuse | bzr: ERROR: unknown command 'serve' | 11:25 |
| lifeless | the server must have a _very very very_ old version of bzr | 11:25 |
| lifeless | what does 'ssh server bzr --version' | 11:26 |
| lifeless | report? | 11:26 |
| NETabuse | yeh, bzr 0.8.2 | 11:26 |
| lifeless | that is so old it doesn't support being a server | 11:26 |
| lifeless | you could use sftp, or preferrably upgrade the bzr on the server | 11:26 |
| NETabuse | well, it's dapper. | 11:27 |
| NETabuse | so how do i update it to newer bzr? | 11:27 |
| lifeless | we have dapper builds in the bzr ppa | 11:27 |
| lifeless | see http://bazaar-vcs.org/Download | 11:28 |
| NETabuse | that's awsome, thanks, got the new bzr in and no serve command error | 11:32 |
| NETabuse | right, i'm off for some family time. | 11:33 |
| NETabuse | thanks for the help today. | 11:33 |
| lifeless | np, ciao | 11:35 |
| fullermd | Wow, 0.8.2 in the wild? | 11:50 |
| wgrant | Scary... | 11:50 |
| pitseleh | hello, i'm working with an online repository, i've received the contents with bzr checkout sftp://... | 12:09 |
| pitseleh | how do i 'checkin'? | 12:10 |
| bob2 | bzr commit | 12:10 |
| bob2 | http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/user-guide/index.html | 12:10 |
| pitseleh | bob2: the problem is, i haven't set up an ssh key, so i'd expect a password prompt every time i update or commit | 12:11 |
| pitseleh | which happens on another pc i'm using | 12:11 |
| bob2 | probably | 12:11 |
| pitseleh | but on this one.. it seems like it's not connecting to the server either during update or commit :/ | 12:11 |
| wgrant | pitseleh: Sure you didn't do 'bzr branch' rather than 'bzr checkout'? | 12:12 |
| pitseleh | wgrant: ! that may be it lol, sorry about that | 12:12 |
| pitseleh | i'll try again :) | 12:13 |
| pitseleh | thank you | 12:13 |
| Peng_ | beuno: Oh! So my tshirt didn't get stolen by Customs or something? | 13:31 |
| SamB | jelmer: I don't suppose there's been any progress in getting bzr to use .gitignore and so on? | 15:10 |
| SamB | hmm, this one looks so simple, I'm tempted to just make .bzrignore a symlink to it ... | 15:10 |
| === pwolanin is now known as pwolanin|afk | ||
| Peng_ | Woah, 2.0rc2. Congrats! | 17:23 |
| NET||abuse | hey guys.. i pushed a copy of my branch up to a web server,, | 18:15 |
| NET||abuse | how do i use it to deploy the code to the live site directories. | 18:17 |
| NET||abuse | ? | 18:17 |
| dsuch | Um, I'm currently fighting with multiple svn --reintegrate issues, if bzr is free of such problems then it should be one of its selling points, guys. | 18:47 |
| pg1054 | hi. i'm brand new to bzr. i've co'd a tree (e.g., bzr branch lp:pressflow pressflow-6). now i want to replace a dir within that tree with a backup of my files, and subsequently be able to merge updates to that tree (bzr merge lp:pressflow). atm, i've clearly made a mistake by simply copying in my backed up files, as @ update/sync i get -> http://pastebin.com/d6d8fa07c. | 20:06 |
| pg1054 | reading the docs, i'm guessing i'm misusing workflow, and may need a "--local" flag somewhere ... but unclear to me atm. | 20:06 |
| pg1054 | any hints? | 20:06 |
| Meths | pg1054: bzr and launchpad need to know who you are so they can communicate properly. you need to do bzr launchpad-login davidstrauss | 20:25 |
| pg1054 | Meths: hi. aha. even for 'anonymous' checkout, where i am NOT contributing back to the upstream trees? | 20:26 |
| Meths | try pull instead of merge | 20:27 |
| Meths | or I'm talking rubbish, the message is a warning not an error, it's doing what you are asking but telling you you haven't logged in as well | 20:30 |
| Meths | pg1054: lines 3 and 6 are the actual responses to what you are doing, everything else is message | 20:30 |
| pg1054 | Meths ok. got it, i think. thanks. | 20:31 |
| hsn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/433648 - there seems to be some problem with bzr push | 21:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 433648 in bzr "bazaar crashes during push after adding tag" [Undecided,New] | 21:13 |
| hsn | i can repeat it every time | 21:14 |
| === JaredWigmore is now known as JaredW | ||
| theAdib | hello all ! What is it that makes a 2.0in the next release? | 22:23 |
| igc | morning | 22:25 |
| lifeless | hi igc | 23:35 |
| igc | hi | 23:35 |
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