[01:26] <alteroo> Hallo :)
[01:26] <alteroo> how's everyone?
[02:23] <shtylman> anyone else having problems starting amarok?
[02:25] <shtylman> hmm...nvm...blew away my amarok directory and forced a rebuild and it launches now..
[02:25] <shtylman> makes me wish I didn't just delete it so I could debug it ... :/
[02:30] <shtylman> ooo...interesting...it crashes after refreshing my music collection...
[03:59]  * shtylman hax fixed all the filepicker bugs except that damn invisible text issue!! (cries)
[03:59] <shtylman> *has
[04:01]  * ScottK has a daughter that will be glad to know.
[04:01] <shtylman> ScottK: she would be gladder if I could fix this damn text problem :)
[04:02] <ScottK> shtylman: No doubt, but you got the one that made her think her homework was lost.  She didn't even notice the text one yet.
[04:03] <shtylman> heh...not many people have really... but the invisible checkbox text is a big clue...
[04:03] <shtylman> I think it is an initialization problem.. or threading or ownership...or something
[04:03] <shtylman> but can't place it for the life of me...
[04:04] <shtylman> ScottK: also... brave daughter for using alpha software to do homework :)
[04:04] <ScottK> shtylman: Well the kids computer is a desktop and so if she wants to go in her room where it's quiet to concentrate, her options are limited.
[04:04] <ScottK> Any help from upstream?
[04:05] <shtylman> nope .. I asked on kde-devel once
[04:05] <shtylman> maybe I will try again...
[04:05] <ScottK> How about OOo upstream?
[04:05] <shtylman> don't know if they are all that interested
[04:05] <ScottK> If you think it's a KDE specific problem, maybe agateau would help out.
[04:05] <shtylman> OO upstream..we don't have a clue :)
[04:06] <ScottK> Lovely.
[04:06] <shtylman> I sent the involved people an email... so far nothing
[04:06] <shtylman> I don't know if it is kde specific or just the specific way we are using the qt event loop or what
[04:07] <shtylman> I do know that it is very weird that one stype shows text and another doesn't...
[05:07] <shtylman> ok...so I think it is a kde related issue...
[05:24] <alteroo> Who is on the Kubuntu artwork team?
[05:25] <nixternal> alteroo: there isn't on that I know of, but there is one person who does most of the artwork around here and that is kwwii
[05:25] <alteroo> Is there a Koala Kubuntu artwork wiki page?
[05:25] <nixternal> don't know anything about the artwork
[05:25] <nixternal> #ubuntu-artwork might..I think that is there channel
[05:26] <nixternal> though, I believe for Koala our plans were to stay vanilla, though that could have changed and I do not know about it
[05:27]  * alteroo sighs
[05:27] <nixternal> why?
[05:28] <nixternal> the great thing is you can change it to whatever you want
[05:28] <alteroo> I know
[05:28] <ScottK> There were plans to make use of the upstream offer to help with distro specific artwork that was true to the upstream KDE look, but no one showed up to do the work.
[05:28] <alteroo> Just aggravating that because kwwii does good work on Kubuntu he doesn't work on kubuntu anymore
[05:28] <nixternal> oh ya, forgot about the upstream offer
[05:29] <ScottK> He did do the usb-creator-kde icons for us
[05:29] <alteroo> ScottK: Where did that break ?
[05:29] <ScottK> alteroo: It was on the list for Karmic, but never any volunteers.  I don't know the details.
[05:29] <ScottK> People got busy, I guess.
[05:30] <alteroo> What's the structure of upstream help?
[05:31] <alteroo> istro says we want help
[05:31] <alteroo>  Upstream works with them on a design
[05:31] <alteroo> then ...
[05:31] <alteroo> volunteers or employees of te distro implement with upstream as a support channel ?
[05:31] <ScottK> Something like that.
[05:32] <ScottK> Artwork is totally not my area, so I don't recall the details.
[05:32]  * ScottK needs to get to sleep anyway ...
[05:32] <ScottK> Good night.
[05:32] <alteroo> Night
[05:33] <ScottK> Maybe by tomorrow someone will have bothered to make an announcement to the Ubuntu community about our next release name.
[05:36] <alteroo> Oh it's be announced?
[05:37] <alteroo> I was just thinking about what it would be today
[05:37] <alteroo> been
[05:41]  * alteroo pokes nixternal 
[05:49] <rgreening> lazt llama
[05:49] <rgreening> lazy
[05:49] <rgreening> :P
[05:50] <alteroo> I just checked the mailiang list :-p
[05:50] <alteroo> and I dunno Lamma seems lame
[05:51] <alteroo> when you can have a Leopard :)
[05:51] <alteroo> Or a Lampry
[05:57] <nixternal> has to do with a cat, all I will say
[05:58] <nixternal> and it is not a leopard
[05:59] <nixternal> think cat with pointy tipped ears
[05:59] <nixternal> though I don't know when it will officially be announced
[06:07] <shtylman> Liger!
[06:07] <shtylman> please be Liger
[06:13] <rgreening> Lynx
[06:13] <nixternal> someone got part of it right :)
[06:13] <rgreening> Newfie Lynx
[06:13] <nixternal> lol
[06:13] <nixternal> Russian Snow Point Lynx
[06:14] <nixternal> the only cat I have ever owned was of that breed
[06:14] <rgreening> Lethargic Lynx
[06:14] <shtylman> haha
[06:14] <nixternal> heh
[06:14] <shtylman> Linguistic Liger!
[06:15] <rgreening> Lousy lYNX
[06:15] <rgreening> Linux Lynx
[06:15] <rgreening> Limbic
[06:15] <rgreening> Leaping
[06:16] <rgreening> Lary?
[06:16] <nixternal> Leisure Suit Lary?
[06:17] <rgreening> Leisure Larry Lynx in Land of Limp Leprochans
[06:17] <nixternal> oh hellz ya
[06:17] <nixternal> so I wasn't the only perverted kid in here 20 years ago :p
[06:17] <rgreening> hah
[06:32] <rgreening> Lurching Lynx
[06:32] <rgreening> Lunching Lynx
[06:38] <rgreening> Lean Lynx
[06:40] <rgreening> lagotic lynx
[06:43] <rgreening> lative lynx
[06:45] <rgreening> lepid lynx
[06:45] <rgreening> nixternal: ^
[06:45] <rgreening> levin or lightning lynx
[06:46] <rgreening> levitating lynx
[06:46] <rgreening> I'll guess it eventually
[06:50] <rgreening> lucent lynx
[06:50] <alteroo> Lynx
[06:51] <alteroo> I can normally get the animal
[06:51] <rgreening> luminous lynx
[06:51] <alteroo> I can't be bothered with the adjective cause it's normally so offbase
[06:53] <rgreening> hehe
[06:53] <alteroo> Was there ever an explanation of karmic?
[06:53] <rgreening> I believe so
[06:53] <alteroo> I think that was fully glossed over in favour of oooooh shiny clouds
[06:53] <rgreening> haha
[06:53] <alteroo> I remember why it was feisty and hardy
[06:54] <alteroo> Feisty was almost the whole explaantion. fawn was tacked on
[06:54] <rgreening> It'll probably be learned lynx
[06:54] <alteroo> hardy was about equally split between hardy and heron
[06:54] <alteroo> Though no one cared they just liked saying hairy hardon
[06:55] <alteroo> Ibex and Koala had no explanations as to why it was intrprid or Karmic
[06:55] <alteroo> He could call it Lecherous Lynx and still just gloss over it
[06:55] <rgreening> limber lynx :)
[06:55] <alteroo> (cause it's going to **** you over)
[06:56] <alteroo> Limber
[06:56] <alteroo> I like Limber
[06:56] <rgreening> and would be coined limberger
[06:56] <rgreening> cheesey
[06:56] <alteroo> :-p
[06:56] <alteroo> Q should be interesting
[06:57] <alteroo> Quahog?
[06:57] <alteroo> Quaffe?
[06:57] <alteroo> Quagga?
[06:57] <alteroo> As long as it's not Queen (insert animal here)
[06:58] <rgreening> haha
[06:58] <rgreening> Quail
[06:58] <alteroo> -_-
[06:58] <rgreening> Quixotical Quail
[06:58] <alteroo> Yeah Guess I missed Quail
[06:59] <alteroo> So far he seems to avoid the knee jerk animal reaction
[06:59] <alteroo> So Leopard and Lion are out for this next round
[07:00] <alteroo> By the way speaking of Out does anyone have a recent Kubuntu ISO build?
[07:00] <alteroo>  there is a lot of Gnome stuff in the boot up
[07:00] <alteroo> Also Riddell probably still disagrees but I think that there should be a countdown for the login screen to autologin
[07:02] <rgreening> autologin umm...
[07:02] <rgreening> what gnome stuff
[07:02] <alteroo> rgreening: if someone logs out of the desktop there is no way to logback in
[07:03] <alteroo> trackerd is the one that bugs me the most
[07:03] <rgreening> whats trackerd
[07:03] <alteroo> but boot up a live CD and press F6 to enable boot messages
[07:03] <alteroo> Gnome version of strigi
[07:04] <rgreening> hmm... how did that happen haha
[07:04] <rgreening> smething to adjust in the seed I guess.. Riddell ^
[07:04] <rgreening> ScottK: ^
[07:05] <alteroo> There were more new things in the latest build I tested
[07:06] <alteroo>  that was about three days ago and I'm stressed so I  don't remember what they were but I know I was thinking What the heck is that doing on a KDE cd?
[07:06] <alteroo> We have no KDE3 libs on the CD anymore right?
[07:06] <alteroo> Oh also will the KDE3 ppa be up and running for Koala?
[07:11] <rgreening> dunno about kde3. there was a guy packaging the kde3 stuff... cant remember who that was at the moment.
[07:12] <alteroo> I do he's not on now
[07:23] <alteroo> Gnight
[07:24] <rgreening> nite
[07:25] <rgreening> Riddelll: we should patch konqueror plugin search dir to support moonlight (need to add /usr/lib/moon/plugin to search path)
[07:58] <rgreening> lucid huh... hmmm
[07:58] <rgreening> lucent would have been better and lees close to lucifer than lucid
[07:59] <rgreening> luciferous
[13:22] <ScottK> No trackerd on the CD: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/karmic/alpha-6/karmic-desktop-amd64.manifest
[16:58] <allee-k> Riddell: your last k3b upload broke libk3b6-extracodecs  when libav*-unstripped are installed.  See http://pastebin.ca/1572965
[16:59] <allee-k> The ' | libav...-unstripped...' alternatives are not listed in dependencies
[17:13] <allee-k> allee-k: ^^^ Hmm those are transitional pkgs.  So libk3b6-extracodecs should alternatively depend on the libav*-extra-*  as they replace the unstripped pkgs.   I wonder if a Conflicts/Replace/Provides in the libav*-extra would make the conflict go away.  (Currently the libav*extra only have conflicts and replaces)
[18:03] <freinhard> hi!
[18:03] <freinhard> anyone packaging krecpieps 2.0-alpha2 ?
[18:04] <freinhard> ...krecipes
[18:04] <freinhard> if not, i'll give it a try
[18:12] <neversfelde> freinhard: there is no [needs packaging] bug, so no one should do this at the moment
[18:41] <neversfelde> amarok's new photo widget is funny when listening to The Police^^
[19:26] <claydoh> freinhard: I just tried out krecipes alpha, it crashes hard on impoting any recipe files I throw at it  :(
[21:25] <nixternal> basket for kde4 is shaping up nicely
[21:34] <nixternal> jjesse: we lost all of the work I did in kubuntu-docs in bzr :/
[21:34] <nixternal> I just did a pull and it went from r115 to r102
[21:34] <nixternal> I looked through the logs and none of my commits are listed on LP
[21:34] <nixternal> there were a ton of changes to
[21:35] <nixternal> i take it back...all the changes are there, just no longer listed in the logs :/
[21:36] <nixternal> actually, the log is there, somehow your name is on all of my commits :/ and there are a bunch of commits missing
[21:53] <Riddelll> phew
[22:42] <nixternal> jjesse: uploaded updated kubuntu-docs because there was a string change by you