[00:24] <evand> MontelEdwards: Please see the topic.  You'll find more help in a dedicated Mono channel: http://www.mono-project.com/IRC
[01:11] <ia_> hello. according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames , the next 10.04 will be called "lucid lynx" - could anyone tell me, please, does this approved information, or just the most suitable suggestion?
[01:13] <wgrant> ia_: It looks official.
[01:17] <wgrant> ia_: I don't see any official announcements, but there are lots of plausible news stories...
[01:17] <wgrant> Who knows.
[01:18] <Laney> apparently he announced it at a conference
[01:19] <ia_> wgrant: yes, i'm thinking so, but asking, because usually official message is sent in ubuntu-devel-announce list about codename for next release.
[06:00] <kirkland> superm1: yeah, sorry, nevermind, I figured it out :-)
[06:00] <superm1> kirkland, what was it re?
[06:00] <kirkland> superm1: karmic mythtv
[06:00] <superm1> ah
[06:00] <kirkland> superm1: i upgraded a couple of frontends today, was disappointed to see the db bump
[06:01] <kirkland> superm1: as my backend is hardy
[06:01] <kirkland> superm1: but i got the jaunty packages working on karmic, and pinned them
[06:01] <superm1> kirkland, well if you want to help get a 0.22 in order for hardy, would be appreciated..
[06:01] <superm1> there was some complexities since qt4 wasn't in hardy
[06:02] <kirkland> superm1: i wouldn't mind trying 0.22 on my hardy backend
[06:02] <kirkland> superm1: my ping was actually about that
[06:02] <kirkland> superm1: i was curious how stable it was
[06:03] <superm1> kirkland, well it's quite stable for me, upstream is getting really close to a release with it
[06:03] <superm1> they've been in bug fix mode for a month now
[06:03] <kirkland> superm1: good to know; available in a ppa for hardy?
[06:04] <superm1> kirkland, well our weekly builds only do intrepid, jaunty, karmic
[06:04] <superm1> *daily builds
[06:04] <kirkland> superm1: hrm, okay
[06:04] <kirkland> superm1: well, i'm out of town for the next 8 days, so I won't be playing it it for another week or so
[06:05] <kirkland> superm1: i was in panic mode, though, today
[06:05] <superm1> if you want to help sort out the problems in packaging for hardy (w/o breaking intrepid/jaunty/karmic), be glad to add it to the daily builds
[06:05] <superm1> it's the same packaging for all distro releases we do
[06:05] <kirkland> superm1: as I upgraded my way into a broken myth setup, the day before leaving for a long trip...  kim was *not* happy :-)
[06:05] <superm1> haha
[06:06] <kirkland> superm1: her words were to me, "oh no, you have *got* to be kidding..."
[06:07] <superm1> kirkland, if you bzr get lp:~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-weekly-build, that's our daily build script, it has the bzr branches for all the related stuff that gets used in it
[06:08] <superm1> so maybe while you're on the plane or something, if you've got a schroot/pbuilder and the packaging/branches checked out you can take a look at hardy stuff
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: cool, i'll grab it
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: are there bugs filed for the known build issues?
[06:08] <kirkland> superm1: is it mostly sorting qt4 and mysql5.1 issues?
[06:09] <superm1> kirkland, not currently.  i think it's just qt4 and maybe nvidia vdpau stuff
[06:09] <superm1> because it worked for a long time on hardy, but when it broke, the executive decision was, eh, get to if if we got time to fix it :)
[14:14] <kklimonda> chrisccoulson, are ACKs in bug 429483 enough for an update or do we also need one from translation team? i cant check it out right now.
[14:51] <unimatrix> hi, will there be PulseAudio 0.9.18 in Karmic?
[14:53] <unimatrix> or maybe at least 0.9.17? it's got some great tsched fixes that many users desperately need
[14:53] <tgpraveen> !info pulseaudio
[14:54] <tgpraveen> unimatrix: pulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.17-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 619 kB, installed size 4192 kB
[14:54] <tgpraveen> currently in karmic
[14:55] <unimatrix> weird, i've got karmic and it says it's 0.9.16
[14:55] <tgpraveen> plan is  to get backports from .18 if it dosnt make it
[14:55] <unimatrix> ok that's great to hear
[15:18] <highvoltage> unimatrix: nice nick!
[15:20] <unimatrix> highvoltage, thanks :)
[16:19] <vmn> hello
[16:42] <jdong> "BAR 6: No parent found for ..."
[16:42] <jdong> *snickers* cute message :)
[16:52] <jdong> oof, radeonhd, SO close
[16:53] <jdong> worked great till the livecd tried to start compiz
[16:55] <alex-weeej> mostly every icon has vanished from gtkmenus
[16:55] <alex-weeej> bug or feature?
[16:55] <alex-weeej> (karmic)
[16:55] <alex-weeej> and gtkbuttons
[16:58] <sebner> alex-weeej: feature. GNOME changed that
[16:59] <alex-weeej> ok
[18:26] <fatal> hello... just rebooted my ubuntu karmic installation for the first time for a while... now I get a black screen about halfway into the boot process.... any suggestions on how to debug/fix it?
[18:27] <fatal> I've tried adding Option "DontZap" "false" in my xorg.conf and trying c-a-bs, but without luck.... also booting with kernel option "single" didn't help.
[18:28] <fatal> Only way I can access the system is if I do "init=/bin/bash" ....
[18:29] <hyperair> fatal: remove quiet and see the messages
[18:30] <fatal> hyperair: last message I see before the blackness is the ufw starting....
[18:30] <jdong> has anyone else seen their scroll lock light randomly blink on and off?
[18:30] <hyperair> hmm
[18:30] <jdong> no it's not a kernel panic
[18:30] <fatal> I tried adding an echo+sleep in /etc/init/gdm.conf, but didn't see that...
[18:31] <hyperair> hmm how strange.
[18:31] <hyperair> no wait. it needs something else to print messages to console i think
[18:31] <jdong> well with upstart, does gdm have console output?
[18:31] <hyperair> come to think of it, does upstart even have console output?
[18:32] <jdong> it definitely did the last time I played
[18:32] <jdong> add console output to gdm.conf?
[18:32] <jdong> </probably botching this up>
[18:33] <hyperair> no, that is correct
[18:33] <hyperair> man 5 init says so
[18:34] <hyperair> whether it works is a different case
[18:34] <jdong> haha I don't feel daring enough today to play with upstart jobs ;-)
[18:34] <hyperair> they're fun to play with
[18:34] <hyperair> =p
[18:34] <jdong> I won't deny that
[18:34] <hyperair> i've already rolled some of my own
[18:35] <jdong> yeah I had a semi upstart booting system back in Hardy
[18:35] <hyperair> and initctl list is pretty awesome
[18:36]  * hyperair uses upstart to auto-phc-ize his system
[18:36] <hyperair> undervolting, that is
[18:36] <jdong> neat
[18:37] <hyperair> it's awesome stuff. i really wish mainline would accept the phc patch
[18:37] <hyperair> it gives me an extra hour of battery life (i think), and stops my cpu from overheating during kernel compilations or any compilation of similar or greater length
[18:38] <ion> hyperair: I wish phc supported my CPU.
[18:38] <ion> It’s nice that phc doesn’t require patching your kernel anymore. You can install it cleanly with dkms.
[18:38] <hyperair> ion: what cpu is it?
[18:39] <hyperair> actually yes you still need to.
[18:39] <ion> model name: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-82
[18:39] <hyperair> in ubuntu that is
[18:39] <hyperair> acpi_cpufreq.ko no longer exists.
[18:39] <virtuald> Phrozen crew?
[18:39] <hyperair> it's built in
[18:39] <ion> Huh? I installed phc successfully with dkms. It loads just fine, until it notices it doesn’t support ZM-82 yet and bails.
[18:39] <hyperair> eh?
[18:39] <hyperair> really?
[18:40] <hyperair> what's the name of the kernel module?
[18:40] <ion> http://linux-phc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2
[18:41] <hyperair> ion: seems like dkms is only for the amd one
[18:41] <hyperair> ion: i'm an intel user
[18:43] <hyperair> hmm looks like powernow-k8 is also compiled into the kernel
[18:43] <hyperair> are you sure this works with DKMS?
[18:46] <fatal> sees the problem was that KMS is now busted in the recent kernel updates....
[18:47] <hyperair> heh is it?
[18:48]  * hyperair doesn't use the stock kernel
[18:54] <ion> hyperair: The page says the intel one if “offtree” as well.
[18:55] <hyperair> ion: it looks like it needs to replace an in-tree module with its own.
[18:55] <hyperair> ion: using a modprobe conf
[18:55] <hyperair> and the said modules are compiled into the kernel, rather than as modules
[18:55] <hyperair> i think it's been like that since jaunty.
[18:55] <ion> Ok
[18:56] <hyperair> it would be nice if we could get the phc thing packaged as a dkms module
[18:57] <hyperair> but we'd need to get the kernel-team to switch powernow-k8 and acpi-cpufreq to module rather than in-kernel first
[20:00] <alex-weeej> php > require_once '/usr/share/xpres/lib/Zend/Loader/Autoloader.php';
[20:00] <alex-weeej> BAM
[20:00] <alex-weeej> vm explodes
[20:00] <alex-weeej> need help debugging
[20:00] <alex-weeej> u910 host, u804 guest
[20:04] <alex-weeej> alex@xpres-two:/usr/share/xpres/lib$ cd Zend
[20:04] <alex-weeej> alex@xpres-two:/usr/share/xpres/lib/Zend$ ls -al
[20:04] <alex-weeej> crash!
[20:05] <alex-weeej> well, exit(1)
[20:48] <alkisg> I'm trying to make a pxelinux boot menu similar to the one found in the ubuntu desktop cd. I can't find any info on how to localize the menus, is the isolinux localization method upstream or is it ubuntu-specific?
[21:37] <LaserJock> anybody know anything about SCIM?
[21:39] <CarlFK> anyone know if there is a lib in a repo that contains  http://git.busybox.net/busybox/tree/libbb/find_mount_point.c
[21:44] <tormod> CarlFK, I think it is included in the busybox in the initrd
[21:45] <CarlFK> tormod: yeah, but I can't call that form my app, right?
[21:47] <tormod> CarlFK, maybe if you install busybox, but I am not sure how smart that is
[21:48] <tormod> I think I have seen find_mount_point coded in sh somewhere...
[22:50] <ebroder> Has anybody ever tried to run the debian-installer under Xen?
[22:56] <CarlFK> " No library is required; just pass the target directory into statvfs()."  doh.  (end of my quest for find_mount_point.c )