superm1 | Technophil, run apt-get -f install | 00:07 |
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Technophil | Already did that, got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded | 00:11 |
Technophil | Also ran sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get u | 00:11 |
Technophil | (via Google) | 00:11 |
Technophil | superm1: System monitor says its now 9.04 however Synaptic repositories still refers to the 8.10 CD, so I am not sure what is expected where...(!) and I am thinking might pay to just do a clean install. | 00:15 |
Technophil | This box is a frontend so its not such a big deal to reinstall....just the hours involved, however perhaps there is a relevant issue and / or a fix? | 00:19 |
Technophil | Its also a vdpau box running JYA's stuff, perhaps that might be relevant? | 00:21 |
mrand | Howdy! Finally getting around to upgrading to 9.04 (I couldn't afford the downtime this summer if anything broke), so I'm issuing a "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop". I'm wondering if I should continue this though, because what it wants to remove looks wrong. Stuff like: libmyth-python mytharchive mythtv-backend mythtv-backend-master mythvideo | 00:52 |
mrand | I'm guessing that it is removing those because of some dependency issue, but I can't figure out what or why. Any ideas/hints? | 00:52 |
superm1 | mrand, Ooh that's potentially bad | 03:35 |
superm1 | I bet it's because of msyql, there is a bug opened against mysql-server about something like that | 03:36 |
mrand | Depends: mythtv-database (=0.21.0+fixes19961-0ubuntu8) but 0.21.0+fixes21768-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 is to be installed | 03:50 |
mrand | Depends: mythtv-backend but it is not going to be installed | 03:50 |
mrand | That was the synaptic depends output for mythtv-backend-master, BTW. | 03:51 |
superm1 | mrand, interesting, the weekly repos should have been getting disabled for the upgrade | 03:57 |
superm1 | mrand, if you could leave that box in this state, mvo in #ubuntu-devel can probably help identify what's up on Monday | 03:58 |
superm1 | he maintains the release upgrader | 03:58 |
mrand | mythmusic and others are at 21768, but mythbackend and mythvideo are at 19961 and 19556. Unfortunately this is my production box that I'm upgrading to 9.04. I realized after my last note above that weekly isn't enabled any more. | 04:24 |
mrand | I enabled the PPA, and it found the 21768. | 04:24 |
superm1 | well you can let it do that removal stuff and then just manually get stuff reinstalled | 04:26 |
superm1 | wouldn't do too much harm | 04:26 |
superm1 | Technophil, JYA's stuff has broken version numbers, so i wouldnt be surprised if that was the root cause | 04:27 |
Technophil | superm1: I am in the final throws of upgrade..... so guess I'll find out! Just adding his stuff now... | 04:28 |
superm1 | Technophil, you are better off with 0.22 and native vdpau support (imo) | 04:29 |
mrand | I agree with superm1, technophil. | 04:29 |
Technophil | I guess that means its got past that point.... I presume that means FE/BE and FE must all be upgraded? | 04:30 |
superm1 | Yes | 04:31 |
Technophil | Well having got this far might as well finish it off....if you are interested of its functioning I'll let you know... | 04:32 |
Technophil | (And if its not then I'll be taking your advice also!) | 04:32 |
Technophil | Anyone know what mythbuntu 9.10 will install? | 04:32 |
superm1 | 0.22 | 04:32 |
superm1 | it's already part of the 9.10 repos | 04:33 |
Technophil | Is that available to install now? | 04:33 |
Technophil | (Obviously not final) | 04:33 |
superm1 | Yeah | 04:33 |
superm1 | you can grab a cd image from cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu | 04:33 |
Technophil | OK Thanks, that was my last question! | 04:34 |
mrand | Time to reboot. bbl (hopfully)! | 04:34 |
superm1 | there are both daily images and a karmic alpha 6 | 04:34 |
superm1 | gl mrand :) | 04:34 |
Technophil | I suppose karmic alpha 6's ok to go with and can be kept up to date from there? | 04:36 |
superm1 | that's the theory at least | 04:38 |
superm1 | the major breakage should be done by now | 04:38 |
Technophil | I guess that breakage means breakage of the mountain of getting 0.22 working....! | 04:39 |
superm1 | well that was the first set of breakage, the next was switching to upstart from sysvinit | 04:40 |
superm1 | it broke all of *buntu karmic for like two days, to the point where you couldn't boot the system | 04:40 |
Technophil | Ouch! | 04:40 |
superm1 | thankfully, that's all sorted out though now, and there are no other major things planned with such potential to break | 04:40 |
superm1 | should just be bug fixes | 04:41 |
mrand | *phew*... up and everything works. Minor strangeness: transitioning from top level to second level menu is very so to repaint. | 04:41 |
mrand | so = slow | 04:41 |
Technophil | 93 tickets.......93 known bugs? | 04:41 |
superm1 | check that you have the right driver being used mrand /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 04:41 |
superm1 | well those are 93 mythtv tickets. all sorts of integration issues still exist on mythbuntu too | 04:42 |
superm1 | mrand has been doing a phenomenal job in triaging and tracking a ton of them :) | 04:42 |
mrand | Thanks. :-) | 04:42 |
Technophil | Well....is there a better OS to run with? ubuntu or mythbuntu or nothing in it? | 04:43 |
Technophil | It seems to me ubuntu may be better if one wants to keep other apps more up to date e.g. vlc? Otherwise not much else? | 04:44 |
mrand | I didn't see that they'd knocked more out, in addition to the ones that continue coming in. I was really surprised how quickly they resolved those two I submitted late last night. I was expecting them to say they needed better back traces. | 04:44 |
mrand | Technophil: it's really a matter of personal preference. You can get all the same apps either way. | 04:45 |
mrand | standard will install extra stuff that a media machine doesn't need | 04:45 |
mrand | open office, etc. | 04:45 |
superm1 | Technophil, well so keep in mind that mythbuntu and ubuntu share the same repos. anything you find in ubuntu is available and installable in mythbuntu too | 04:45 |
superm1 | its more of a remix of what gets installed | 04:45 |
superm1 | to start with | 04:46 |
superm1 | and actually vlc is installed in the default install of mythbuntu whereas it isn't in ubuntu :) | 04:46 |
mrand | hehehe, oh yeah, that's right. | 04:46 |
mrand | My machine is multi-purpose, so I initially chose to do ubuntu and then added mythbuntu-control-center. | 04:47 |
Technophil | Where I am (NZ) the latest VLC for live H264 is relevant. Still maybe mythtv 0.22 is going to take over, especially with the vdpau advantage. | 04:48 |
Technophil | Any of you had any experience of running two video cards simultaneously - essentially I want 2 simultaneous outputs, one is HD via component using a PCIe card (no problem there) and a second PCI card (9400GT) to output composite scaled down SD video copy of the HD. | 04:54 |
superm1 | i'm not sure that's actually doable | 04:54 |
Technophil | The SD is to feed a SD analogue modulator for old TV's to watch the same video in differing rooms | 04:54 |
Technophil | Would it be doable with a 150? | 04:55 |
superm1 | if the same card had two different outputs, say component and composite, then you can do clone mode on the card itself | 04:55 |
Technophil | The composite out is common with the component blue output with the NVIDIA card adapters = means only one or the toher but not both off the same card... | 04:59 |
superm1 | aw too bad | 05:01 |
Technophil | I suppose I could change the TV to one with a digital input, (its only has component HD inputs) and then clone the DVI/VGA to composite. I think the 9500's will only drive two outputs though, although they do have 3 outs so maybe they'll drive a TV (DVI) a general VGA screen and a composite? Hmm That would mean need to clone the DVI and composite and a separate X for the general desktop.... SOunds like a big ask also.... | 05:03 |
superm1 | you can only drive two at a time generally | 05:07 |
superm1 | sounds to me like you are trying to do too much with the box | 05:07 |
superm1 | i'd leave it for TV usage with the DVI and composite in mirror mode | 05:07 |
superm1 | and then another box for general desktop | 05:07 |
Technophil | superm1: Hmmm more $!! OK I appreciate your advice. | 05:18 |
Technophil | Damn the vdpau plaback profile now needs a key press to increment.......is there a file one can edit - >2000 is getting a bit much! | 05:23 |
Zinn | Technophil: Please watch your language. | 05:23 |
Technophil | the vdpau plaback profile now needs a key press to increment.......is there a file one can edit - >2000 is getting a bit much! | 05:29 |
oobe | anyone know about the /etc/init.d/ scripts needing to be updated when switching to trunk | 05:33 |
oobe | sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop wont work anymore now i have upgrade | 05:33 |
oobe | i can only assume my old mythtv init scripts are still there and need to be modified and updated | 05:34 |
oobe | it seems to work now must of need a reboot | 05:52 |
Technophil | superm1: JYA's new Frontend is actually working, all be it a little flaky that is typical of myth as it currently is... | 07:52 |
luke | anyone using antec fusion remote case for matx boards? | 08:20 |
ourtv | i leave on the myth box all the time. but every morning when i go to watch recordings there are always some shows which give the error message that the recording file is empty. i reboot and then don't have the problem again until late at night until after i go to bed. | 12:23 |
ourtv | i see errors in the logs but i see errors in the logs when things seem to be working, too. anyway, i did the log grabber thing and it says to paste this here for support: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2a371c4b | 12:24 |
ourtv | i'd appreciate help in pointing out which of the error messages is the cause. | 12:24 |
oobe | every time i install mythtv updates i recieve errors that mythtv-database has the incorrect password my sql root password is not blank so i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database and in sends me in a loop of not being able to specify the password | 12:42 |
oobe | Failed to create or modify database (incorrect admin username/password?) | 12:44 |
oobe | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database | 13:10 |
oobe | [sudo] password for oobe: | 13:10 |
oobe | Failed to connect to database (incorrect admin password) | 13:10 |
oobe | Failed to create or modify database (incorrect admin username/password?) | 13:10 |
oobe | Try: | 13:10 |
oobe | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database | 13:10 |
oobe | so basically what im saying is i type the correct password every single time during dpkg-reconfigure but it fails to understand and proceeds to ask again despite being given the correct password | 13:11 |
oobe | can login from a shell using the correct password with mysql -uroot -p | 13:12 |
mrand | oobe: What version are you on? That might help someone answer your question. | 14:11 |
oobe | trunk | 14:18 |
oobe | but i think it was happening before i upgraded | 14:18 |
oobe | im not convinced its a real problem | 14:18 |
oobe | but it might be possible i am missing important tables being updated or added | 14:18 |
_ben | mmm, i get quite choppy dvd playback - any ideas what to investigate? | 16:29 |
_ben | got a sata dvd player | 16:29 |
mike_hurley_1 | so i'm using mythbuntu alpha 6 and was wondering if the default mythbuntu theme assumes 1280x720? | 16:54 |
mike_hurley_1 | looking at some of the fanart backdrops, and some come from themoviedb.org as 1920x1080, they appear to be chopped off down to about 1280x720 | 16:55 |
mike_hurley_1 | alpha 6 for karmic of course | 16:55 |
mike_hurley_1 | i just checked, and the backdrop is chopped to use the left/top most 1280x720 | 17:00 |
superm1 | gbutters, ^ | 17:00 |
superm1 | i think the theme comes in at 1280x720 and scales, gbutters will know for sure though | 17:01 |
mike_hurley_1 | ok, it appears to not scale | 17:01 |
mike_hurley_1 | it takes the 1080, chops to 720, and scales to 1080 | 17:02 |
gbutters | mike_hurley_1: That has been fixed | 17:21 |
mike_hurley_1 | theme problem or mythvideo? | 17:21 |
gbutters | mike_hurley_1: theme | 17:22 |
mike_hurley_1 | is there a cache i need to clean out or will the next time around show the larger images better? | 17:22 |
mike_hurley_1 | after updating | 17:22 |
gbutters | mike_hurley_1: update from here https://launchpad.net/~gbutters/+archive/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu and clear the cache in /home/<user>/.mythtv/themecache | 17:24 |
gbutters | mike_hurley_1: the manager screen is messed up on it but everything else works and looks alot better | 17:25 |
mike_hurley_1 | the old video manager screen? | 17:26 |
gbutters | mike_hurley_1: yes | 17:26 |
superm1 | gbutters, i can push an updated theme to karmic too if it's in good order | 17:27 |
gbutters | superm1: ok let me push it up | 17:27 |
gbutters | superm1: revision 57 | 17:33 |
superm1 | cool k gbutters | 17:33 |
superm1 | thanks | 17:33 |
mike_hurley_1 | once it's in karmic, how long until apt-get can get it? | 17:34 |
superm1 | mike_hurley_1, if you are on archive.ubuntu.com mirror, probably 2-3 hours | 17:35 |
superm1 | if you are on another mirror, a couple hours more | 17:35 |
mike_hurley_1 | ok | 17:35 |
mike_hurley_1 | i'm on whatever the default is for alpha6 | 17:35 |
superm1 | well it depends on what location you picked for timezeon | 17:36 |
mike_hurley_1 | US Central time | 17:36 |
superm1 | you were probably put on a US mirror then | 17:38 |
mike_hurley_1 | is mythbuntu/ubuntu dev centralized or all you guys on different mirrors too? | 17:39 |
mike_hurley_1 | centralized meaning where stuff gets pushed to for apt to find it i guess | 17:39 |
superm1 | well all development gets pushed to launchpad, and launchpad publishes to archive.ubuntu.com, and all mirrors around the world mirror it from there | 17:40 |
mike_hurley_1 | thanks guys. i'll check out the fix later. bye | 17:44 |
sigkill_ | hey, anyone here use the diskless stuff you can do on a backend? | 19:19 |
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_ben | yo, anyone about? | 22:14 |
superm1 | !hi | _ben | 22:20 |
Zinn | _ben: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? | 22:20 |
_ben | mmm, testing something | 22:22 |
_ben | changing dvd drive speed to 12x may have sorted my stuttering/choppy dvd playback | 22:22 |
_ben | it's better - still a little choppy tho | 22:23 |
_ben | running out of ideas to try :/ | 22:23 |
superm1 | with 0.22? | 22:50 |
superm1 | i'm seeing choppiness too, but i've not been sure whether to attribute it to lower end hardware | 22:50 |
superm1 | xine can handle it, but i've never had good luck with mythtv Internal player | 22:51 |
_ben | mmm | 22:52 |
_ben | yes, using trunk | 22:52 |
superm1 | you might want to raise it on #mythtv-users and/or make a ticket | 22:52 |
_ben | recorded TV is perfect - DVD playback outside of mythtv is fine | 22:52 |
superm1 | yeah same here | 22:52 |
superm1 | shame too, because i've switched to using Internal for all other mythvideo | 22:53 |
_ben | Yeah | 22:53 |
_ben | mmm | 23:07 |
_ben | superm1: you on the mailing list? | 23:16 |
_ben | (mythtv-users)? | 23:16 |
superm1 | _ben, on a secondary email adddress that i never check (it's only so i can respond to a mailing list post if i ever need to) | 23:53 |
_ben | mm | 23:53 |
_ben | might just leave it for the momemnt | 23:54 |
_ben | what cpu do you use btw? | 23:54 |
superm1 | _ben, model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ | 23:54 |
superm1 | but i run a 32 bit install so that i can have flash | 23:55 |
_ben | same | 23:55 |
_ben | well | 23:55 |
_ben | running E2180 @ 2.00GHz, 2GB ram | 23:56 |
superm1 | i need more ram, i've only got a gig and this is a combo box | 23:56 |
_ben | hehe | 23:56 |
_ben | i think i could use more ram too - it's lightly swapping | 23:56 |
superm1 | i axed my old separate backend because it was too loud | 23:57 |
_ben | don't thing thats causing the stuttering tho | 23:57 |
superm1 | for me its a little more than light.. | 23:57 |
superm1 | Swap: 556 358 198 | 23:57 |
superm1 | (total, used, free) | 23:57 |
_ben | Swap: 6016300 8232 6008068 | 23:57 |
_ben | :) | 23:57 |
superm1 | that's definitely not causing the stuttering, i can run it as the box is freshly started up | 23:57 |
superm1 | and same problems with dvd playback for me | 23:57 |
_ben | yeah | 23:58 |
_ben | i mentioned it in mythtv-users but i suspect the devs avoid that chan :p | 23:58 |
_ben | i know i would | 23:58 |
superm1 | well they're present there, just they dont focus on everything in there | 23:58 |
_ben | yeah | 23:59 |
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