[00:07] Technophil, run apt-get -f install [00:11] Already did that, got 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded [00:11] Also ran sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get u [00:11] (via Google) [00:15] superm1: System monitor says its now 9.04 however Synaptic repositories still refers to the 8.10 CD, so I am not sure what is expected where...(!) and I am thinking might pay to just do a clean install. [00:19] This box is a frontend so its not such a big deal to reinstall....just the hours involved, however perhaps there is a relevant issue and / or a fix? [00:21] Its also a vdpau box running JYA's stuff, perhaps that might be relevant? [00:52] Howdy! Finally getting around to upgrading to 9.04 (I couldn't afford the downtime this summer if anything broke), so I'm issuing a "sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop". I'm wondering if I should continue this though, because what it wants to remove looks wrong. Stuff like: libmyth-python mytharchive mythtv-backend mythtv-backend-master mythvideo [00:52] I'm guessing that it is removing those because of some dependency issue, but I can't figure out what or why. Any ideas/hints? [03:35] mrand, Ooh that's potentially bad [03:36] I bet it's because of msyql, there is a bug opened against mysql-server about something like that [03:50] Depends: mythtv-database (=0.21.0+fixes19961-0ubuntu8) but 0.21.0+fixes21768-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu1 is to be installed [03:50] Depends: mythtv-backend but it is not going to be installed [03:51] That was the synaptic depends output for mythtv-backend-master, BTW. [03:57] mrand, interesting, the weekly repos should have been getting disabled for the upgrade [03:58] mrand, if you could leave that box in this state, mvo in #ubuntu-devel can probably help identify what's up on Monday [03:58] he maintains the release upgrader [04:24] mythmusic and others are at 21768, but mythbackend and mythvideo are at 19961 and 19556. Unfortunately this is my production box that I'm upgrading to 9.04. I realized after my last note above that weekly isn't enabled any more. [04:24] I enabled the PPA, and it found the 21768. [04:26] well you can let it do that removal stuff and then just manually get stuff reinstalled [04:26] wouldn't do too much harm [04:27] Technophil, JYA's stuff has broken version numbers, so i wouldnt be surprised if that was the root cause [04:28] superm1: I am in the final throws of upgrade..... so guess I'll find out! Just adding his stuff now... [04:29] Technophil, you are better off with 0.22 and native vdpau support (imo) [04:29] I agree with superm1, technophil. [04:30] I guess that means its got past that point.... I presume that means FE/BE and FE must all be upgraded? [04:31] Yes [04:32] Well having got this far might as well finish it off....if you are interested of its functioning I'll let you know... [04:32] (And if its not then I'll be taking your advice also!) [04:32] Anyone know what mythbuntu 9.10 will install? [04:32] 0.22 [04:33] it's already part of the 9.10 repos [04:33] Is that available to install now? [04:33] (Obviously not final) [04:33] Yeah [04:33] you can grab a cd image from cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu [04:34] OK Thanks, that was my last question! [04:34] Time to reboot. bbl (hopfully)! [04:34] there are both daily images and a karmic alpha 6 [04:34] gl mrand :) [04:36] I suppose karmic alpha 6's ok to go with and can be kept up to date from there? [04:38] that's the theory at least [04:38] the major breakage should be done by now [04:39] I guess that breakage means breakage of the mountain of getting 0.22 working....! [04:40] well that was the first set of breakage, the next was switching to upstart from sysvinit [04:40] it broke all of *buntu karmic for like two days, to the point where you couldn't boot the system [04:40] Ouch! [04:40] thankfully, that's all sorted out though now, and there are no other major things planned with such potential to break [04:41] should just be bug fixes [04:41] *phew*... up and everything works. Minor strangeness: transitioning from top level to second level menu is very so to repaint. [04:41] so = slow [04:41] 93 tickets.......93 known bugs? [04:41] check that you have the right driver being used mrand /var/log/Xorg.0.log [04:42] well those are 93 mythtv tickets. all sorts of integration issues still exist on mythbuntu too [04:42] mrand has been doing a phenomenal job in triaging and tracking a ton of them :) [04:42] Thanks. :-) [04:43] Well....is there a better OS to run with? ubuntu or mythbuntu or nothing in it? [04:44] It seems to me ubuntu may be better if one wants to keep other apps more up to date e.g. vlc? Otherwise not much else? [04:44] I didn't see that they'd knocked more out, in addition to the ones that continue coming in. I was really surprised how quickly they resolved those two I submitted late last night. I was expecting them to say they needed better back traces. [04:45] Technophil: it's really a matter of personal preference. You can get all the same apps either way. [04:45] standard will install extra stuff that a media machine doesn't need [04:45] open office, etc. [04:45] Technophil, well so keep in mind that mythbuntu and ubuntu share the same repos. anything you find in ubuntu is available and installable in mythbuntu too [04:45] its more of a remix of what gets installed [04:46] to start with [04:46] and actually vlc is installed in the default install of mythbuntu whereas it isn't in ubuntu :) [04:46] hehehe, oh yeah, that's right. [04:47] My machine is multi-purpose, so I initially chose to do ubuntu and then added mythbuntu-control-center. [04:48] Where I am (NZ) the latest VLC for live H264 is relevant. Still maybe mythtv 0.22 is going to take over, especially with the vdpau advantage. [04:54] Any of you had any experience of running two video cards simultaneously - essentially I want 2 simultaneous outputs, one is HD via component using a PCIe card (no problem there) and a second PCI card (9400GT) to output composite scaled down SD video copy of the HD. [04:54] i'm not sure that's actually doable [04:54] The SD is to feed a SD analogue modulator for old TV's to watch the same video in differing rooms [04:55] Would it be doable with a 150? [04:55] if the same card had two different outputs, say component and composite, then you can do clone mode on the card itself [04:59] The composite out is common with the component blue output with the NVIDIA card adapters = means only one or the toher but not both off the same card... [05:01] aw too bad [05:03] I suppose I could change the TV to one with a digital input, (its only has component HD inputs) and then clone the DVI/VGA to composite. I think the 9500's will only drive two outputs though, although they do have 3 outs so maybe they'll drive a TV (DVI) a general VGA screen and a composite? Hmm That would mean need to clone the DVI and composite and a separate X for the general desktop.... SOunds like a big ask also.... [05:07] you can only drive two at a time generally [05:07] sounds to me like you are trying to do too much with the box [05:07] i'd leave it for TV usage with the DVI and composite in mirror mode [05:07] and then another box for general desktop [05:18] superm1: Hmmm more $!! OK I appreciate your advice. [05:23] Damn the vdpau plaback profile now needs a key press to increment.......is there a file one can edit - >2000 is getting a bit much! [05:23] Technophil: Please watch your language. [05:29] the vdpau plaback profile now needs a key press to increment.......is there a file one can edit - >2000 is getting a bit much! [05:33] anyone know about the /etc/init.d/ scripts needing to be updated when switching to trunk [05:33] sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend stop wont work anymore now i have upgrade [05:34] i can only assume my old mythtv init scripts are still there and need to be modified and updated [05:52] it seems to work now must of need a reboot [07:52] superm1: JYA's new Frontend is actually working, all be it a little flaky that is typical of myth as it currently is... [08:20] anyone using antec fusion remote case for matx boards? [12:23] i leave on the myth box all the time. but every morning when i go to watch recordings there are always some shows which give the error message that the recording file is empty. i reboot and then don't have the problem again until late at night until after i go to bed. [12:24] i see errors in the logs but i see errors in the logs when things seem to be working, too. anyway, i did the log grabber thing and it says to paste this here for support: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2a371c4b [12:24] i'd appreciate help in pointing out which of the error messages is the cause. [12:42] every time i install mythtv updates i recieve errors that mythtv-database has the incorrect password my sql root password is not blank so i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database and in sends me in a loop of not being able to specify the password [12:44] Failed to create or modify database (incorrect admin username/password?) [13:10] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [13:10] [sudo] password for oobe: [13:10] Failed to connect to database (incorrect admin password) [13:10] Failed to create or modify database (incorrect admin username/password?) [13:10] Try: [13:10] sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database [13:11] so basically what im saying is i type the correct password every single time during dpkg-reconfigure but it fails to understand and proceeds to ask again despite being given the correct password [13:12] can login from a shell using the correct password with mysql -uroot -p [14:11] oobe: What version are you on? That might help someone answer your question. [14:18] trunk [14:18] but i think it was happening before i upgraded [14:18] im not convinced its a real problem [14:18] but it might be possible i am missing important tables being updated or added [16:29] <_ben> mmm, i get quite choppy dvd playback - any ideas what to investigate? [16:29] <_ben> got a sata dvd player [16:54] so i'm using mythbuntu alpha 6 and was wondering if the default mythbuntu theme assumes 1280x720? [16:55] looking at some of the fanart backdrops, and some come from themoviedb.org as 1920x1080, they appear to be chopped off down to about 1280x720 [16:55] alpha 6 for karmic of course [17:00] i just checked, and the backdrop is chopped to use the left/top most 1280x720 [17:00] gbutters, ^ [17:01] i think the theme comes in at 1280x720 and scales, gbutters will know for sure though [17:01] ok, it appears to not scale [17:02] it takes the 1080, chops to 720, and scales to 1080 [17:21] mike_hurley_1: That has been fixed [17:21] theme problem or mythvideo? [17:22] mike_hurley_1: theme [17:22] is there a cache i need to clean out or will the next time around show the larger images better? [17:22] after updating [17:24] mike_hurley_1: update from here https://launchpad.net/~gbutters/+archive/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu and clear the cache in /home//.mythtv/themecache [17:25] mike_hurley_1: the manager screen is messed up on it but everything else works and looks alot better [17:26] the old video manager screen? [17:26] mike_hurley_1: yes [17:27] gbutters, i can push an updated theme to karmic too if it's in good order [17:27] superm1: ok let me push it up [17:33] superm1: revision 57 [17:33] cool k gbutters [17:33] thanks [17:34] once it's in karmic, how long until apt-get can get it? [17:35] mike_hurley_1, if you are on archive.ubuntu.com mirror, probably 2-3 hours [17:35] if you are on another mirror, a couple hours more [17:35] ok [17:35] i'm on whatever the default is for alpha6 [17:36] well it depends on what location you picked for timezeon [17:36] US Central time [17:38] you were probably put on a US mirror then [17:39] is mythbuntu/ubuntu dev centralized or all you guys on different mirrors too? [17:39] centralized meaning where stuff gets pushed to for apt to find it i guess [17:40] well all development gets pushed to launchpad, and launchpad publishes to archive.ubuntu.com, and all mirrors around the world mirror it from there [17:44] thanks guys. i'll check out the fix later. bye [19:19] hey, anyone here use the diskless stuff you can do on a backend? === mpontillo1 is now known as mpontillo [22:14] <_ben> yo, anyone about? [22:20] !hi | _ben [22:20] _ben: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [22:22] <_ben> mmm, testing something [22:22] <_ben> changing dvd drive speed to 12x may have sorted my stuttering/choppy dvd playback [22:23] <_ben> it's better - still a little choppy tho [22:23] <_ben> running out of ideas to try :/ [22:50] with 0.22? [22:50] i'm seeing choppiness too, but i've not been sure whether to attribute it to lower end hardware [22:51] xine can handle it, but i've never had good luck with mythtv Internal player [22:52] <_ben> mmm [22:52] <_ben> yes, using trunk [22:52] you might want to raise it on #mythtv-users and/or make a ticket [22:52] <_ben> recorded TV is perfect - DVD playback outside of mythtv is fine [22:52] yeah same here [22:53] shame too, because i've switched to using Internal for all other mythvideo [22:53] <_ben> Yeah [23:07] <_ben> mmm [23:16] <_ben> superm1: you on the mailing list? [23:16] <_ben> (mythtv-users)? [23:53] _ben, on a secondary email adddress that i never check (it's only so i can respond to a mailing list post if i ever need to) [23:53] <_ben> mm [23:54] <_ben> might just leave it for the momemnt [23:54] <_ben> what cpu do you use btw? [23:54] _ben, model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ [23:55] but i run a 32 bit install so that i can have flash [23:55] <_ben> same [23:55] <_ben> well [23:56] <_ben> running E2180 @ 2.00GHz, 2GB ram [23:56] i need more ram, i've only got a gig and this is a combo box [23:56] <_ben> hehe [23:56] <_ben> i think i could use more ram too - it's lightly swapping [23:57] i axed my old separate backend because it was too loud [23:57] <_ben> don't thing thats causing the stuttering tho [23:57] for me its a little more than light.. [23:57] Swap: 556 358 198 [23:57] (total, used, free) [23:57] <_ben> Swap: 6016300 8232 6008068 [23:57] <_ben> :) [23:57] that's definitely not causing the stuttering, i can run it as the box is freshly started up [23:57] and same problems with dvd playback for me [23:58] <_ben> yeah [23:58] <_ben> i mentioned it in mythtv-users but i suspect the devs avoid that chan :p [23:58] <_ben> i know i would [23:58] well they're present there, just they dont focus on everything in there [23:59] <_ben> yeah