[01:00] <blip-> anyone know how to start the xfce task manager from the command line ?
[01:00] <blip-> I don't seem to have xfce4-taskmanager even though I can start it fine from the menu
[01:01] <knome> blip-, what's it called in the menu?
[01:02] <blip-> knome: hmm I just realized the one in the menu is called system monitor :/   I guess xubuntu uses the gnome tool rather than the xfce one
[01:03] <blip-> knome: yeah found it, gnome-system-monitor apparently
[01:03] <knome> blip-, you can install xfce4-taskmanager from the repository if you want.
[01:04] <blip-> knome: nah it's fine, I want to install as little as possible to keep the system quick.   I just found it odd this choice
[01:04] <knome> ok. i suppose the choice was made for its better features, but can't really be sure. i'm asking the devs for this.
[01:06] <blip-> got another question, I'm trying to bind my laptop volume keys using the Keyboard settings... it works fine to detect the key, but what command am I meant to issue to raise sound ?   Should I be looking at xfce4-mixer or alsamixer ?   (I used usb headset sometimes btw)
[01:06] <blip-> *use
[01:06] <knome> amixer sset Master 5%- / amixer sset Master 5%+ / mute
[01:07] <burner> i just saw recent benchmarks for ubuntu v xubuntu and gnome came out ahead in most cases on phoronix
[01:08] <blip-> hahah
[01:08] <burner> seems like the lxde based lubuntu is taking over on the low end hardware
[01:08] <knome> burner, can you please link me to those benchmarks?
[01:08] <blip-> yeah same here
[01:08] <burner> i could... but my X is down... phoronix.com
[01:08] <blip-> burner: I looked for the darn lubuntu online last time... no where to be found any iso
[01:08] <burner> booting X, i'll find a proper link
[01:09] <burner> blip-: it's alpha version and not really ready yet
[01:09] <blip-> and lxde just won't match xfce, I think they do desktop icons via the file manager PCManFM
[01:09] <blip-> won't match on the ease of use i mean
[01:09] <knome> burner, there are some reasons why xubuntu might turn out to be slower than ubuntu.
[01:09] <blip-> but who cares about that
[01:09] <blip-> so it's not just me that has been noticing xfce getting slower over the last few years...
[01:10] <blip-> I find it now sits in the middle ground between KDE4 and something like Openbox
[01:11] <knome> xfce is still faster than gnome and as even gnome is going a distinct way in the future, it leaves xfce as the only "traditional" de.
[01:11] <knome> openbox is not a desktop environment, it's only a window manager.
[01:13] <blip-> yeah I meant openbox with the commonly used desktop env elements added on
[01:13] <knome> well, what are those? you can use gnome DE stuff in xfce and no wonder it's slower
[01:13] <blip-> the xfwm has improved vastly in speed since 4.6... close to openbox wm now
[01:15] <blip-> knome: yeah good point.  I tried like a few choices for each,  panels were fbpanel, pypane, kicker, xfce4-panel and others.   desktop icons there was pcmanfm and this other thing I can't remember.
[01:16] <knome> burner, i have to go to bed really soon but i'm interested in seeing those benchmarks, so please paste their link to this channel once you found it.
[01:17] <blip-> I think I did something bad, I must have uninstalled some audio stuff by mistake..... exaille and such don't switch to my usb headset for output anymore
[01:17] <knome> blip-, i hope someone can help you
[01:18] <knome> i have to go to bed
[01:18] <knome> good night everybody
[01:18] <blip-> yeah me too. good night
[01:18] <blip-> and thanks for the help earlier knome
[01:56] <justin_> hey im trying to get a usb wirless card to work on my laptop but i cant seem to get it to register anyone think they can lend a hand with the problem
[03:08] <chase1> hi guys, i have a big problem :S somehow my xubuntu got corrupted, and despite there not being a xubuntu partition, me uninstalling it from windows, and trying to edit boot.ini, it still shows up in my dual boot screen and any attempts to install another linux OS over it just fails.  any ideas at all? really desperate here
[03:26] <jiohdi> I have lost my panels on the desktop, where do I find the settings to bring them back or add new ones
[04:25] <justin_> hey guys im having trouble with my wireless ndiswrapper sees the device and sees its installed but i cant use it
[04:27] <justin_> anyone?
[04:28] <justin_> ....
[13:58] <blip-> hi all,  when I first installed xubuntu 9.04.... my usb headset worked superbly.  I plug it in, then it becomes the default and I play music through Exaille... now the sound comes out of the laptop speakers.   any idea if a package could be responsible ?
[15:39] <anders__1> Can you you redirect vga from the screen to vga out on a laptop? Is there an app for this?
[16:05] <Rebs80> can anyone help, i cant seem to save resolution changes on xubuntu
[16:47] <blip-> hi all,  does anyone use a usb headset with xubuntu 9.04 ?
[16:50] <oscar> no, I don't blip
[16:50] <oscar> I have trouble configuring my time and date
[16:51] <blip-> hahaha
[16:51] <blip-> I guess i'm lucky then :)
[16:51] <oscar> sure )))))
[16:52] <oscar> I do it. but it has no effect in the tray ((
[18:25] <slow-motion> hi
[18:58] <Kasalehlia> hi, ich have a problem with xubuntu 9.04
[18:58] <Kasalehlia> i am german and i tried to set xfce to german, but it didnt work properly
[20:59] <TheS> Hello.
[23:16] <squashc> I need some printing help.
[23:18] <squashc> I'm running xubuntu 9.04, and I can't get applications->settings->printing