[00:08] <ciaran_lee> erichammond: are you around?
[00:27] <erichammond> ciaran_lee: maybe
[00:35] <ciaran_lee> erichammond: good answer :) I read your article on amazon about running mysql with EBS, and I notice you advocate 'automate startup from a base image' instead of rebundling an instance...
[00:37] <ciaran_lee> and I was just wondering why it is considered better to do things this way? Do you do this for all your ec2 instances or just DB servers?
[01:35] <erichammond> ciaran_lee: There are a number of valid approaches, each with their pros and cons.  I allude to some of the benefits and drawbacks in my presentation at http://oscon2009talk.notlong.com though the slides don't get into too much detail.
[06:13] <Debolaz> erichammond: Interesting presentation.
[06:14] <erichammond> Debolaz: Fortunately, nobody recorded it ;-)
[06:14]  * Debolaz read "unfortunately" there the first time.
[06:14] <erichammond> heh
[06:16] <erichammond> I've given it twice, once in forty-five minutes and once in an hour and forty-five minutes, and managed to just barely fit it in both times.
[06:16] <Debolaz> We're going to move a few of our company services over on EC2. It's nice with information like this that actually spells out the adventages/drawbacks of various methods.
[06:22] <Debolaz> Heh, we're actually hiring perl developers too now.
[06:28] <fallous> mmm, perl
[06:30] <fallous> the runurl stuff is pretty nifty for setting up a box, but I need to benchmark it vs building an image for complex installs
[06:31] <erichammond> Ah, that was a couple months ago.  We filled our latest Perl developer position and are now seeking another HTML/CSS/JavaScript front end developer.
[06:31] <fallous> funny thing about javascript... I thought I'd hate it due to browser hilarity, but if you stick with pretty standard DOM stuff it's really unsuckful
[06:32] <erichammond> fallous: Yep, install time is a big factor in whether you need to bundle/build your own images.
[06:33] <fallous> ended up doing the facebook game contract in javascript instead of Flash.  taking a hit on ajax polling but it sure as hell is a lot more lightweight for what they wanted vs the flash plugin fun
[06:36] <fallous> thankfully memcache and lighttpd makes up for most of that server-side hit