[09:34] <davmor2> cjwatson_: is there anything you want log wise from today's iso (assuming that your don't delete the logs fix is in) on bug 430141
[09:46] <cjwatson> davmor2: yep, installer syslog; let me just check that the logging fix is in
[09:46] <cjwatson> yeah, it's there
[09:46] <cjwatson> Ubuntu desktop anyway
[09:48] <davmor2> right I'll just wait for the dl script to finish it's job and drop it on for you :)
[10:02] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3469 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[10:02] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Open a browser window when links are clicked on in the slideshow
[10:02] <CIA-33> ubiquity: (LP: #432145).
[11:34] <davmor2> cjwatson: right added /var/log/installer/syslog to the report
[12:02] <CIA-33> usb-creator: evand * r217 trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
[12:02] <CIA-33> usb-creator: * Re-enable the format button now that Devicekit-disks 007 has been
[12:02] <CIA-33> usb-creator:  released.
[12:02] <CIA-33> usb-creator: * Depend on DeviceKit-disks >= 007.
[12:03] <cjwatson> davmor2: gah, no more information there. this is incredibly frustrating
[12:04] <cjwatson> davmor2: os-prober *is* installed after reboot for you, isn't it?
[12:04] <davmor2> cjwatson: is there a way to capture during install?
[12:04] <cjwatson> davmor2: I'm already trying everything I can think of remotely ...
[12:04] <cjwatson> I mean, if I were sitting in front of your machine ... :)
[12:05] <davmor2> cjwatson: ii os-prober  1.33
[12:05] <cjwatson> yeah, thought so. it isn't for alternate installs - that's fixed in bzr
[12:05] <cjwatson> hmm, might as well upload that I guess
[12:08] <davmor2> cjwatson: if you want I can drop vista on fresh boot up the livecd and open up ssh for you
[12:10] <evand> cjwatson: do you think this is too hideous a fix http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/275179/ ?
[12:11] <cjwatson> davmor2: that would be very kind
[12:11] <davmor2> cjwatson: be about 20 minutes I'll ping you
[12:11] <cjwatson> though I don't know that you need to reinstall vista, unless you've already nuked it
[12:11] <evand> whoops
[12:11] <evand> I should've tested that first
[12:12] <cjwatson> evand: user-setup-apply doesn't use db_progress right now, so there's no progress bar to contain that
[12:13] <evand> ah
[12:13] <cjwatson> evand: I think I'd recommend working out in advance how many devices need to be cleared (i.e. doing everything up to the swapoff and keeping a list), then starting a progress bar of that length and doing INFO/STEP for each one
[12:14] <evand> okay
[12:14] <cjwatson> hmm, well, d-i doesn't really do nested progress bars
[12:14] <cjwatson> I wonder how to make that work
[12:15] <cjwatson> that would make my suggestion difficult
[12:15] <cjwatson> have you considered just making it a separate finish-install script with its own title?
[12:15] <evand> indeed, I was just going to suggest that
[12:15] <evand> seems cleaner anyway
[12:15] <cjwatson> you wouldn't be able to do internal progress, but it would make it clearedr what's going on
[12:16] <evand> irssi seems to be sending the delete key for you
[12:17] <evand> I saw: cleared[0x7f]r what's going on
[12:24] <cjwatson> yes, local network lag
[12:27] <evand> ah
[12:27] <cjwatson> possibly plus slow machine where I'm running irssi, not quite sure
[12:28] <cjwatson> wireless networking for the loss though
[12:30] <evand> heh
[12:30] <CIA-33> grub-installer: cjwatson * r809 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.43ubuntu2
[12:52] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3470 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py: Whoops. Call the class method, not the non-existant global function.
[12:54] <CIA-33> grub-installer: cjwatson * r810 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): Fix some hardcoded uses of /target.
[14:09] <rgreening> evand: yay! James Bond to the rescue - new devicekit-disks :)
[14:09] <evand> heh
[14:10] <rgreening> 007 :)
[14:11] <evand> I'm pretty sure there's a race in job-mkfs.c in devicekit-disks that shows up every now and again for me, but its cause has eluded me thusfar
[14:11] <rgreening> well, we now have format... translations cleaned up, etc... I think that takes care of most of the nasty bits in creator evand
[14:11] <rgreening> hmm... never notices the race...
[14:11]  * evand pages through his notebook
[14:12] <evand> still need to sort out the remaining time estimate being wildly off in its guesses
[14:12] <evand> (should just be a matter of tweaking the parameters)
[14:12]  * rgreening removed the time counter... superfluous imo.. use the bar only...
[14:12] <rgreening> in KDE ver...
[14:12] <evand> ah
[14:12] <rgreening> :)
[14:13] <evand> need to go through the rest of the bugs and see what's still applicable
[14:13] <rgreening> we have text messages describing whats happening...
[14:13] <rgreening> so the time countdown really isn't necessary.. Id remove it
[14:13] <evand> oh and make sure we're unmounting the ISO and stopping usb-creator-helper in all failure cases
[14:14] <rgreening> ya. thats important.
[14:14] <rgreening> I'll follow your lead and make the kde changes
[14:14] <evand> oh and *maybe* have it only display parent block devices if no children are present or a disk image is selected
[14:14] <rgreening> YES!
[14:14]  * rgreening thinks that would be consistant!
[14:15] <evand> and make sure the UI is working correctly (the right things are disabled and enabled given each circumstance)
[14:15] <rgreening> Im pretty sure the KDE one is in at this point...
[14:15] <evand> cool
[14:15] <rgreening> Yeah, I tested that pretty rigourously early on
[14:16] <rgreening> unless you notice something I missed :)
[14:16] <rgreening> hah
[14:16] <evand> I'd like to get the unit test framework updated and actually working again, but that can be done between the 9.10 release and the opening of 10.04
[14:16] <rgreening> sure. not a showstopper for sure
[14:17] <rgreening> it would be nice to have this before starting usb-creator-console :)
[14:17] <rgreening> ha
[14:17] <evand> :)
[14:17] <rgreening> evand: Im writing the wiki spec page now...
[14:18] <evand> awesome
[14:18] <rgreening> evand: then I need to write another spec I am thinking of... I'll fill you in later. you may be interested in it.
[14:19] <evand> I'm keen to finally get add/remove programs (well, software-store now) support finally done in 10.4
[14:20] <evand> sure
[14:20] <rgreening> evand: I'd like a KDE front-end. Maybe we can work together on that?
[14:20] <rgreening> that would be another spec :)
[14:20] <rgreening> hah
[14:20] <evand> oh absolutely, it's nearly entirely in the backend
[14:21] <rgreening> AWESOME!
[14:21] <evand> the only frontend part is the name of the binary it needs to call in the chroot it creates
[14:21]  * rgreening will write a spec.. 
[14:21] <rgreening> evand: got a spec for the software store add/remove programs?
[14:22] <rgreening> brb
[14:26] <evand> no, but it's fairly straightforward
[14:29] <evand> actually, I stand corrected
[14:29] <evand> I did create a specification for it https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/usb-creator/+spec/add-remove-applications
[14:44] <rgreening> awesome.
[14:45] <rgreening> evand: finished this wiki entry... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LucidUsbCreatorConsole
[14:47] <rgreening> evand: whats the equivalent of gnome-app-install in kde? any ideas?
[14:47]  * rgreening doesn't think one exists exactly...
[14:47] <rgreening> at least not anymore...
[14:48] <davmor2> rgreening: kpackagekit ;)
[14:48] <rgreening> lol
[14:48] <rgreening> not quite....
[14:49] <evand> I imagine someone will create a kde frontend to software-store
[14:49] <rgreening> evand: that's what I was hoping to help or do...
[14:49] <evand> rgreening: mvo and mpt would be the people to talk to
[14:49] <rgreening> evand: ok. ty
[14:50] <rgreening> mpt, mvo: can we chat about software-store and kde frontend?
[14:51] <mpt> evand, software-store support for what?
[14:51] <evand> mpt: ^ a kde frontend
[14:52] <evand> rgreening: mvo isn't in this channel, but he is in #ubuntu-devel
[14:52]  * rgreening just noticed that
[14:53] <mpt> evand, you use KDE??
[14:53] <evand> GOD NO.
[14:53] <evand> I played that game once.  I lost.
[14:53]  * mpt wipes brow
[14:54] <evand> haha
[14:54] <rgreening> hey... dont dis the K hahaha
[14:54] <rgreening> :)
[14:56] <evand> :)
[15:35] <evand> hrm, GDM and oem-config still aren't playing nice.
[15:38] <davmor2> evand: does it play nice with kdm or is that a silly question and I should just move on?
[15:57] <evand> no idea
[18:36] <Hypnoz> has anyone been able to pxe boot jaunty livecd or any other livecd?
[19:37] <rgreening> evand: are you releasing 0.2.7 with format option, or waiting to resolve some of the points we discussed earlier? Might be nice to get 0.2.7 out for testing to more people with format...
[20:34] <davmor2> kirkland: Never done a patch and I don't code.  But I can gladly look at rewording the text for you.
[23:49] <xivulon1> hmm grub-emu > insmod ntfs > invalid arch independent ELF magic